Braves place Jurrjens on DL with knee strain – updated

NEW YORK – After Jair Jurrjens made his first four starts coming out of the All-Star break with pain in his surgically-repaired right knee, he and the Braves decided to shut it down for a couple of weeks.

Jurrjens was placed on the 15-day disabled list Saturday, with the idea that he would miss two starts and then rejoin the rotation again. Left-hander Mike Minor was recalled from Triple-A Gwinnett to make Jurrjens’ scheduled start Sunday against the Mets.

“It just got a little inflamed; that’s it,” said Jurrjens, who was examined by a doctor after his last start in Washington. “Just want to calm it down.”

Jurrjens underwent arthroscopic surgery for a torn meniscus in his right knee last October, after missing September and the Division Series with pain in his knee.

“When you have knee surgery, it takes a full year for you to be healthy,” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said. “We’re going to give him a chance to strengthen that leg up around the knee and get going again….When the 15 days are up, I expect him to pitch.”

Jurrjens’ stint is retroactive to Tuesday. His spot would likely come up again on Aug. 18 against the Giants.

Jurrjens was the Braves best starter in the first half, going 12-3 with a 1.87 ERA in 16 starts on his way to making his first All-Star team. But he said his knee started bothering him on July 17 against the Nationals, his first game after the All-Star break, when he gave up a season-high six runs in five innings.

He’s 0-1 with a 6.26 ERA in four starts since the break. He gave up five runs in five innings in a loss to the Nationals on Monday, and Nationals right fielder Jayson Werth said afterward Jurrjens’ velocity was not what it’s been earlier in the year.

“I didn’t have the strength to stay back and stay over the mound and push off like I wanted to,” Jurrjens said. “I’m going to take this time to strengthen it and I’ll be out there in like nine days.”

Minor is scheduled to make two starts in Jurrjens’ absence. He is 1-2 with a 4.59 ERA in six starts with the Braves this season. He went seven innings, allowing only one run to beat the Blue Jays in his last major league start on June 21.

“I feel better this time,” said Minor, who worked on his two breaking pitches in his seven starts with Triple-A Gwinnett since. “I feel like my command is a lot better. I feel more like the last two or three (starts) I’ve felt really confident out there.”

He is 1-1 with a 2.88 ERA in his past four starts for Gwinnett.

114 comments Add your comment

eskippy

August 6th, 2011
3:33 pm

Dr. Pepper

August 6th, 2011
3:36 pm

20 out

August 6th, 2011
3:36 pm

Any word on how Freeman is? Had a bad feeling about him yesterday. Something is bothering him.

kpokeefe

August 6th, 2011
3:37 pm

This sux a big one for the Braves!

Dr. Pepper

August 6th, 2011
3:37 pm

…I am a Mike Minor fan…

kpokeefe

August 6th, 2011
3:38 pm

“Any word on how Freeman is? Had a bad feeling about him yesterday. Something is bothering him.”

Yeah, he only went 2 for 4 with the two hits being doubles!

He’ll be fine! Can’t go deep every night!

Jimbo Jones

August 6th, 2011
3:40 pm

Even happier we were able to hold onto Minor and get our man (Bourn) now.

maddog1995

August 6th, 2011
3:41 pm

wow, not good!! things just keep getting a little worse, i have a feeling we aren’t in the baseball gods favor this year…

DaveinNEPA

August 6th, 2011
3:41 pm

It’s August!!!!! Once again the Braves players start dropping like flies.

OK, who’s next?????

savannah brave

August 6th, 2011
3:41 pm

promoting Minor over Teheran is similar to promoting shaeffer over Constanza

Unknown Hinson

August 6th, 2011
3:44 pm

I’d rather see Teheran come in… I”m not sold on MInor

Mr. Enigma

August 6th, 2011
3:48 pm

Teheran isn’t ready. He looked extremely mediocre in his three starts with Atlanta this year.

With that being said, Minor hasn’t been great either.

Kimbrel rocks

August 6th, 2011
3:51 pm

MINOR!!!! we need a lefty in the rotation. can the haters think positive for just ONE day????

George Costanza

August 6th, 2011
3:52 pm

J.J. should have been traded before the deadline, while his stock was high. He’s too injury prone for us to keep long term, especially with that agent of his.

Dr. Pepper

August 6th, 2011
3:54 pm

Amen Kimbrel… This is why Wren didnt deal minor at the trade deadline. (just incase someone in the rotation got injured)

Heb11:1

August 6th, 2011
4:00 pm

Hang in there, JJ.

Rowsdower

August 6th, 2011
4:02 pm

I KNEW IT. Noone wanted to believe he was actually hurt and I pleaded for JJ to get an MRI. Even Dave O’Brien gave me grief about it.

I’m glad hes gonna have a chance to get healthy for the stretch drive. When he’s healthy he’s an elite pitcher. Thank you for finally letting the team know you’re not healthy. We don’t need heroes right now.

P.S. Now let’s get Teheran up to replace Lowe in the rotation…

Just Wanna Say

August 6th, 2011
4:02 pm

JJ did not need to be traded. He was our best pitcher before the deadline and possibly the best one in the league. You don’t trade that when you are playing for a championship, especially for the players that were available.

BravesGrrrl

August 6th, 2011
4:03 pm

When and how did he hurt his knee?

FaninFaytown

August 6th, 2011
4:04 pm

For God’s sake, its SCHAFER!!

Just Wanna Say

August 6th, 2011
4:07 pm

@Fanin
HA!. You shure itz nat Shayfur?

Seriously, I do not understand how so many of our players’ names get misspelled.

ground_fog

August 6th, 2011
4:11 pm

This team is cursed! cursed I tell you

Joseph

August 6th, 2011
4:16 pm

JJ got hurt @ NY last year as well. Does he need better security in NYC? Just a coincidence for sure, but same injury in the same city.

Well said Kimbrel. I think most feel like it is just easier to be negative than to always go through life finding the bright side in every situation.

Conyers Braves Fan

August 6th, 2011
4:19 pm

The Braves will continue to slide or play no better than .500 ball given the mounting number of injuries and their lack of ability to get hits with RISP. They will be extremely luck to get the WC. St. Louis,Arizona are not far behind.

Conyers Braves Fan

August 6th, 2011
4:25 pm

Joseph: How do you know that JJ got hurt in NYC? The article does not state why or where he got hurt. Sounds like you want to add your spin to something that has not even been reported, Sir.

Rowsdower

August 6th, 2011
4:25 pm

The D-Backs are 3.5 back and the Cardinals are 5.5 back. The Braves will be fine. They get Chipper back today and Mac isn’t far behind. JJ going on the DL finally is a blessing. He was trying to be a hero pitching hurt and he was actually hurting the team. We have plenty of starting pitching to overcome this. When Minor pounds the zone, he is a very good pitcher. I just hope he doesn’t try to nibble. Do what made you successful at Triple A. The Mets are practically a Triple A team anyway outside of Wright and Reyes…

Peter

August 6th, 2011
4:27 pm

This could be a blessing in disguise. If Minor can come up and prove he is ready, they might have an option to go to if Lowe continues to struggle.

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Beauvighn

August 6th, 2011
4:29 pm

Minor is closer to being ’show” ready than the others..Tehran looked like a deer in headlights when he was up. He will be good one day but Minor is the right call.

Peter

August 6th, 2011
4:35 pm

There is too much negativity for a team that has the second best record in the NL. It probably has to do with the fact we are 8 games behind the Phillies. But lets face it, the Phillies are a team with pretty much zero weaknesses right now. They don’t seem to be going on any losing streaks anytime soon, so were not catching them. They are going to mow down most teams in the NL. I believe that we, the Atlanta Braves are the only team that can beat them right now. The Giants, while a very good team, caught lightening in a bottle last year and I don’t think they can muster the offense necessary to beat them this year. The injury to Jurrjens seems minor, but it could explain his struggles since the break. Hopefully he will come back healthy in a couple of weeks and be the Jurrjens from the first half. I believe that when healthy we are the second best team in baseball, not just the NL, and the only team that can challenge the mighty Phillies. So have a little faith.

Just Wanna Say

August 6th, 2011
4:38 pm

@Conyers
Seriously man? Calm down. He was put on the DL while in NYC. That is all Joseph was saying.

Eric C.

August 6th, 2011
4:38 pm

Been watching the Braves regularly for 30 seasons and can’t recall anything close to the injury bug of the last few seasons…just incredible

panamajack

August 6th, 2011
4:39 pm

Rowsdowner, I remember you saying they should give JJ an MRI, have to admit I thought you were out of your mind.

Peter

August 6th, 2011
4:41 pm

This injury bug isn’t as bad as last year, yet. We still have an excellent chance of being at full strength come Sept/Oct.

Rowsdower

August 6th, 2011
4:46 pm

@Panamajack – I’ve been pitching for 30 years and to see a pitcher lose his command that quickly is always an indication that something is wrong. While I commend JJ for trying to be a hero and pitch through the discomfort (probably didn’t wanna get called out by Chipper :b), it is best for the team for him to take August off and get ready for the stretch drive. He was hurting us more than helping us…

Remarkable

August 6th, 2011
4:46 pm

Even our Young Guns are going on the DL. We are falling on hard times. Is there some conditioning that we should be doing to keep this kind of thing at bey or is it just the Grind of a 160 plus game schedule? I think the powers that be should reduce the schedule to 150 games and give the players more days off.

Joseph

August 6th, 2011
4:52 pm

Minor is more than capable of holding serve until JJ gets whatever is wrong with the knee fixed and hopefully have him healthy in September.

ray

August 6th, 2011
5:00 pm

I’m also starting to worry about the conditioning. it’s getting too frequent. the Braves have more injuries than a hockey or football team who have much more contact.
if JJ was going to pitch hurt and be ineffective, it’s better that he gets time off to heal..
JJ has an excuse, what’s Lowe’s ? when does he make his next 4-5 inning start ? I thought they called those guys long relievers.
it was going to be bad either way; when Burnett turned us down to sign with Yanks, we jumped on Lowe. both are overpaid stiffs. Burnett may have a 5 yr deal I recall while Lowe luckily only got 4.

bobby

August 6th, 2011
5:03 pm

The complaints about a 160 games schedule are BS. It’s only another week longer than when they were playing 154 games. I’m sure the old time players weren’t as conditioned as the players are now or more likely it is the fat salaries they make now whether they play or not.

Rowsdower

August 6th, 2011
5:18 pm

Guys, relax. This is probably nothing more than scar tissue breaking up from his knee surgury in the offseason. It causes some serious discomfort, but nothing that anti-imflammatories and rest can’t knock out. He’ll take a couple weeks off and be ready to go for the stretch drive.

This is an important transaction for the Braves. JJ was clearly not himself since the All-Star break. The talking heads wanted to say it was a “regression to the mean.” JJ isn’t an average pitcher. He is an elite pitcher when healthy. Let’s get him healthy for the games that matter down the stretch.

My Thoughts

August 6th, 2011
5:28 pm

Here is a thought ! If McLouth had told someone after the 2nd game of the season of the injuries that I can’t throw etc then we would have had about 100 games without his worthless (you know what goes here) and could have replaced him with someone maybe a team player not one worried about his looks stats etc and might now be in first place. How many runners took bases knowing he couldn’t throw a runner out at home if he was standing on the pitcher’s mound.

Steve

August 6th, 2011
5:30 pm

I have to admit that I have been wrong about Frank Wren. The importance of not trading one of the “big four” is clear now. Good to have the insurance to take the place of JJ.

Raul

August 6th, 2011
5:43 pm

Some of you guys have such a miserable life that you can’t do anything but bitch, bitch, bitch. You don’t know the teams, claim to be Braves fans, but can’t even spell the players names. Any move by the people who actually have to make decisions is a stupid move to you, because you see them as simply less of a baseball brain than you, and that shows your ignorance of reality.

Braves fan in NY

August 6th, 2011
5:43 pm

What scares me beside JJ is that Hanson has been spotty at best,Lowe has bern horrible again,even Venters has been having some shaky spots…alll this sine the allstar game

Joseph

August 6th, 2011
5:50 pm

Raul, you deserve a standing “O”. Well put sir.

poop

August 6th, 2011
5:51 pm

Bravo, Raul.

don

August 6th, 2011
5:57 pm

If Spahn, Mathews, and Aaron played with the same attitude as the players of today, none of them would have been elected to the Hall of Fame because they would be on the disabled list every few weeks. The players of today are pitiful.

On another note, the Braves should try to reverse the Andrus fiasco by figuring out a way to con the Rangers out of Jurickson Profar, an 18 year old super shortstop prospect playing for Hickory (Low A). He is a far superior prospect than are Pasternicky and Simmons and the Braves sure need a shortstop.

I_R_Human

August 6th, 2011
6:00 pm

J.J. get your rest and get that knee feeling better…….we’ll need you down the stretch. Here’s hoping that Minor can do what he’s actually capable of!

Joseph

August 6th, 2011
6:02 pm

Don, comparing players from the Spahn, Mathews, & Aaron era to today’s game is fundamentally wrong. There wasn’t an emphasis on strength and conditioning then that there is now. There wasn’t all the dieting and weight management then that there is now. The 70s compared to this decade is impossible to do on any level. Medical science is vastly different and so are the food processing and education systems. There just might be something to the old saying of “You can’t pull fat.”

NickB

August 6th, 2011
6:02 pm

@rowsdower, inuury or not his ERA was not sustainable. I would try to explain it to you, but you are obviously one of those guys who refuses to learn and understand modern statistics….. Flat earth and all that

Zoli

August 6th, 2011
6:14 pm

I thought I read Freemans mouth saying “quad” when Uggla asked him. He looked gimpy going back to the clubhouse. I hope its not bad.

TheMann21

August 6th, 2011
6:18 pm

I don’t think we should worry too much. This could be a chance for JJ to get rested and healthy. Im not sure if he has been 100% this year…

Ben Be Brave

August 6th, 2011
6:18 pm

Peter – I definitely agree with you about the negativity…2nd best record in the NL…Some Braves’ fans are really spoiled and/or panicky…let’s get healthy now and prepare for a solid playoff run…

Jo Bling

August 6th, 2011
6:31 pm

To all those suggesting we shorten the season because of injuries, you should probably consider that the Braves have put just about every starter on the DL at some point this season and we’re only through 113 games. Shortening the season wouldn’t have changed any of that. That said, there are other reasons to shorten the season that make more sense, like not playing World Series games in November when it’s 35 degrees up north.

huddie ledbetter

August 6th, 2011
6:38 pm

“I believe that when healthy we are the second best team in baseball, not just the NL, and the only team that can challenge the mighty Phillies. So have a little faith”

Wow, pretty strong stuff Peter. I admire your optimism but don’t think a reasonable person can thin we’re better than Bosox, Rangers or Yanks. Anyone can win a playoff series but don’t think we’re up there talentwise

Rafael

August 6th, 2011
7:09 pm

Can Frank Wren ALSO place Derek Lowe on the Physically UNABLE to PERFORM list????!!!!

Can Jayson Heyward finish the season in the minors… he certainly CANNOT hit MLB pitching!!!!! Do Fredi and Frank NOT see the fact what the fans see… Jayson Heyward is STRUGGLING to stay above the Mendoza line. Jason is in a SEASON LONG “FUNK” and Fredi keeps penciling him the lineup. Jason comes to bat in these low-scoring tight games when we need a hit with runners on base, and OUT, OUT, OUT, OUT, OUT. Jason has the ability to do TWO things well now… groundout to SS or 2B, OR more often than not STRIKEOUT. Heyward DOES NOT even hit his patented “once a month” homer anymore. Send the bum to the minors!!!!

Better yet, SELL Heyward to a Japanese team. Afterall, Japan dumped a clunker on us… Kenshin Kamakami. Payback is sweet. In all fairness, Kawakami was NEVER as BAD as DEREK LOWE. Lowe could NOT make a Japanese team roster the stiff he’s become.

I LOVE Constanza and Bourn in the SAME OF. Speed, speed, speed, WINS games. Constanza spent 9 years in the minors (a tribune to his character to persavere) and is a MUCH Better ballplayer than Jason Heyward (BUST!!!!!)

Derek Lowe, where’s Dr. Kevorkian when you NEED him???!!!!!

up north

August 6th, 2011
7:30 pm

Has anyone noticed the Phillies have won 9 straight? We will never catch them. Forget the division, and just try to squeeze into the playoffs with the wild card.

P. Bull Terrier

August 6th, 2011
7:32 pm

With so many ignorant comments to pick from, it’s hard to single out just one. I’ll just go with the first one that caught my eye, so “savannah brave” is the winner:

3:41 pm – “promoting Minor over Teheran is similar to promoting shaeffer over Constanza”

In the case of Schafer over Constanza, the Braves promoted the “star” prospect instead of the unknown guy. When the “star” prospect didn’t produce, the unknown guy got his chance to step in and show he belongs.

Minor isn’t exactly an unknown like Constanza, but he’s not nearly as big of a “star” prospect as Teheren. In the case of Minor over Teheren, the Braves promoted the guy who they think will get the job done today instead of promoting the guy who was the highest rated prospect.

How are the two situations similar?

Joseph

August 6th, 2011
7:34 pm

Raphael, I feel sad for you as a person. Really sad you live a life that is so sad that you even mention Dr. Kevorkian in a comment about a FREAKING BASEBALL GAME OR A BASEBALL PLAYER?????

Grow up and get a life. You are really pathetic.

phil

August 6th, 2011
7:36 pm

Raul
August 6th, 2011
5:43 pm

Some of you guys have such a miserable life that you can’t do anything but bitch, bitch, bitch. You don’t know the teams, claim to be Braves fans, but can’t even spell the players names. Any move by the people who actually have to make decisions is a stupid move to you, because you see them as simply less of a baseball brain than you, and that shows your ignorance of reality.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
give it a rest.

phil

August 6th, 2011
7:40 pm

Rafael – come on, man…you crossed the line.

(Philly)Hater

August 6th, 2011
7:40 pm

why don’t some of you so called “fans” of the Braves actually go to the Braves games, maybe actually sell out some games, so the team can go chase after an elite free agent this off season. Despite being a Georgia native, I’m call y’all out and saying we have some of the worst fans in baseball!! Support the damn team…in good times and bad!

braveshoo

August 6th, 2011
7:43 pm

I think Heyward should change his stance. He is too far from the plate to keep from getting jammed, and has to take too big of a stride which makes his head move. I suggest he move closer to the plate and open up and widen his stance. An open stance will help him hit the inside pitch without getting jammed, and widening his stance will cut down on his stride and keep his head still. Then he needs to wait a little longer on the ball, and line the outside pitch to LF.

Joseph

August 6th, 2011
7:46 pm

(Philly)Hater, while I agree with your sentiment, but the logical side of me has to ask (with all due respect) what seat are you in at every game? Fact is, that Liberty owns this team right now and they will not move on the budget. Put a real owner here then your sentiment holds water. That said….While there are some stupid reasons, and very good reasons for not attending a game that is in the worst possible location for a major city, you have a point. But to say that a person that chooses to not drive over an hour without traffic and spend the money it costs today just for 1 game and would rather sit with their family watching the game in peace and away from drunken idiots (I used to be one), there I disagree with you. But I do understand your sentiment, but calling anybody that doesn’t go to a game not a fan. What about those that doesn’t buy jerseys or bats? Are they fans? Again I respect your sentiment and agree with you in principle, but disagree with the lumping.

(Philly)Hater

August 6th, 2011
7:52 pm

Joseph, I agree with you. I certainely do not go to every game, only about 20 a year, usually sit at the top sections,400’s…they’re the ones I can afford No question that the stadium is in an inconvenient location….but not much we can do about it. I was at game 4 last year when SF clinched against our Braves….the PLAYOFF game wasn’t even sold out. There were whole sections which was empty!!! We hadn’t made the playoffs in like 5 years and we couldn’t sell out?? Seriously?? This city does not deserve the Braves….many of the fans are just bandwagon jumpers

Mitchell

August 6th, 2011
7:53 pm

Aren’t we all glad Frank Wren didn’t trade Minor?

I know I am.

And how ’bout those Gigantes? Carlos Beltran no helpy against los Phillies.

Dios mio.

TONNA

August 6th, 2011
8:31 pm

Why was LosMets on the front of the Mets uniforms during Friday night game?

bravesfaninNashville

August 6th, 2011
8:36 pm

It sure seemed likely that JJ was hurt after he went 12-3 and then was lucky to get out of games with no decisions. His velocity was down and he looked like he was no longer pitching aggressively. I’m glad we have Minor and the other 3 pitching prospects. Hopefully JJ can come back stronger and contribute down the stretch. Chipper back tonight and McCann soon. Heyward is lost as last years Easter Egg out there. I think a trip to the minors wouldn’t hurt him. He needs some time with no pressure to get back to himself. He’s a great talent but he’s all turned around right now.

don

August 6th, 2011
8:37 pm

Well, Joseph, I guess we can conclude that all these marvelous medical and nutritional advances have produced lesser ballplayers. While the players of the Golden Era of the 1950s may have carried a few extra pounds, they were durable. Apparently, much more durable than the prima donnas of today.

Remember, pitchers threw with three days rest (or sometimes less) instead of being babied with at least four days rest. the term “tired arm” was not a part of the vocabulary.

UGAFAN13

August 6th, 2011
8:39 pm

Gonzo needs to go go. He stinks at the plate this year!

UGAFAN13

August 6th, 2011
8:41 pm

Something needs to be done to help Heyward. Repeating the same pattern is insane.

BOISESTATEBRONCO

August 6th, 2011
8:43 pm

@ (Philly)Hater

I totally agree with you. Fans in Atl are horrible. I attend 10-12 games per year and I live in IDAHO!!!

UGAFAN13

August 6th, 2011
8:43 pm

Big question is will Tommy make it out of the 2nd inning?

BOISESTATEBRONCO

August 6th, 2011
8:44 pm

I wish the Braves would move to a more worthy city… just saying

BOISESTATEBRONCO

August 6th, 2011
8:45 pm

Tommy is not looking good

Joseph

August 6th, 2011
8:58 pm

BOISE, you live in Idaho, so I doubt you know anything about Atlanta. This isn’t Atlanta’s team it is Georgia’s team. And to a greater degree the southeast’s team. A more deserving city? You do not know anything of the state of GA so do not speak like you do. And I am saying that sincely.

Don, A lesser athlete? Really? Did we know what an oblique muscle was in the 70s? In the “golden years” that you point to, the mentality was “rub some dirt on it”. Let us just point to one player you obviously love because of how often he played even hurt………….RIPKEN. Do you know what is really sad about Ripken? It is the fact that he is only remembered for the “streak”. And most people think that is the only reason he is in the Hall. They forget he was one of the best SS of all time. He reinvented the prototypical SS. Even his own teammates questioned why he kept playing and commenting that it was hurting the team. Today’s players are not lesser athletes. Just more science and knowledge about the progression of injuries if they play “through them”.

DawgDad

August 6th, 2011
9:03 pm

Did any of you guys posting about 1950’s baseball ever SEE 1950’s baseball? It sure doesn’t sound like it. Let me assure you, you take Eddie Mathews, Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Frank Robinson, Orlando Cepeda, Jackie Robinson, Roy Campanella, Roberto Clemente, Dick Groat (look him up, kids), Stan Musial, Minnie Minoso, Larry Doby, Jackie Jensen, Luis Aparicio, Mickey Mantle, Ted Williams, Brooks Robinson, Al Kaline, Nellie Fox, et. al. and transpose them to 2011 they’d ALL be All-Stars, just like they were back then. All those guys were world-class athletes, and there weren’t very many, if any, “extra pounds” among the whole group.

Joseph

August 6th, 2011
9:08 pm

Dawgdad, you miss the point of the debate sir. Did those guys have the same dieting and weight management routine that is in all sports today? Did they lift weights like players do today? The vegetables weren’t viewed as either organic or non-organic then. Actually I did watch then. They would be all-stars and from today, Halladay, Lee, Pence, Bourn and many others would be all-stars in that era as well.

Joseph

August 6th, 2011
9:10 pm

And by the way Dawgdad, the greatest 2 guys on any one team that I have ever seen live were CLemente and Pops.

Braves fan in NY

August 6th, 2011
9:33 pm

Enter your comments hereHanson
will be the next brave on the DL

Bill Goldberg

August 6th, 2011
9:38 pm

Hanson is struggling again. Fastball barely reaches 90 now.

M10

August 6th, 2011
9:39 pm

Hanson sucks its plain and simple.Just awful.

Bill Goldberg

August 6th, 2011
9:40 pm

Let me take that last comment back. It was way too nice. He sucks.

don

August 6th, 2011
9:44 pm

Joseph, are you saying that obliques didn’t exist in the 1950s? I’ll bet players did have obliques in those days. But, one thing they didn’t have was pitch counts. Can you imagine a manager having a pitch count for Spahn or Burdette? Their “pitch count” was the total thrown when they pitched a complete game. Apparently all of this “lack of enlightenment” didn’t hurt Spahn since he won 363 games.

Like most everything in this modern age, baseball players are poor substitutes for the stars of the past.

As a story goes, someone asked an old sportswriter how much he thought Ty Cobb would hit if he were playing today. The old sportswriter said, “Oh, about .320.” The questioner was stunned. He asked, “Why would he not hit any higher in light of the juiced balls, the hitters parks, and the dilution of real talent? The old sportswriter said, “You must remember that Ty would be well over 100 years old.”

That tale really says it all. There are no more Cobbs. And there are no more Spahns and pitchers of his day.

jt

August 6th, 2011
9:45 pm

Hanson would not make a good batting practice pitcher. WTF is Freddie Gonzo thinking, leaving him n for that many home runs. Every day that goes by, gives more reasons the Marlins let this loser go. Now he can make the Braves losers too. Hanson and that stupid hesitation move when he pitches, he might as well tell them what he is going to throw. Boy does he SUCK !!!

lannnerbraves

August 6th, 2011
9:45 pm

hanson is terrible..i have never been high on him..looks like a giant opie out there throwing batting practice

jt

August 6th, 2011
9:48 pm

What the hell good would the Wild Card do us, with the likes of Hanson, Lowe and JJ with a gimpy knee. We are toast til another year (notice I didn’t say next year?)

1991 braves

August 6th, 2011
9:49 pm

Maybe Hanson needs to go on D.L. along with J.J. He stinks since the break, and he has lost velocity on his fastball as well. The little pause in his delivery has always been a problem as it relates to holding runners on, and now he seems to be a headcase to go along with it. The only starter that is somewhat consistent since the break is Hudson. When you can only count of a quality start one out of every 5 days doesn’t bode too well for the last 50 games. Couple the terrible starting pitching now with an inept offense and the worst manager in the n.l, and it spells disaster for this team going down the stretch.

jt

August 6th, 2011
9:49 pm

What a smash by Alex (NOT)

jt

August 6th, 2011
9:51 pm

WTF is he batting Hugo for, with Conrad on bench, oh well I did not get finished before Hugo made the last out. Freddie is such a F’ing loser.

jt

August 6th, 2011
9:53 pm

Joe Simpson mentions the hitting streaks one more time, I think I will go down and rip his lungs out.

jt

August 6th, 2011
9:56 pm

Think we could get them to retire Freddie’s jersey along with Bobby Cocks?

PhilliesFan

August 6th, 2011
10:18 pm

Well at least we are keeping the Giants at bay for you.

Granny's Hammer

August 6th, 2011
10:30 pm

Well PF, it is the least we can do for them, and I’m sure they appreciate it.

Txpeach

August 6th, 2011
10:51 pm

Braves strength and conditioning coach needs to be fired!!! Why so many freaking muscle strains!!! Getting tired of these types of injuries already! H
IT THE WEIGHTS MORE GUYS!!!

Txpeach

August 6th, 2011
10:53 pm

Sherrill sux!!!!

I've been working o the RR

August 6th, 2011
11:03 pm

and the Braves blow another one……. they suck is too kind…… the slide continues. We will repeat the ‘91 season except we will go from (onetime this season) “first to worst”. 9 Games back and only 9 to go before we really start playing ball up to our level…., BELOW 500! Braves Suck!!!!!

alanfalcon

August 6th, 2011
11:10 pm

?-could we put Hanson and Lowe on the disabled list as well, based on their recent performances they must have some form of ailment that would qualify them, if this is possible maybe we could bring up some of the young guns with Minor.

I've been working o the RR

August 6th, 2011
11:34 pm

maybe we can put Fredi on the DL….? He has a sever case of “judgement strain”…. Can a Manager put himself on the DL…..?

Noone, Alot, Loosers, Than, Then & To Much

August 7th, 2011
12:30 am

Uggla has caught up with Heyward’s batting average (.220) and is closing in on Gonzales and Conrad.

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