Gonzalez standing by struggling Lowe

Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez indicated Wednesday that he plans to stick by the struggling veteran Derek Lowe, who lost for the fourth time in five starts Tuesday night, allowing eight runs in four innings to the Nationals.

“Like any athlete that goes though some tough stretches – hitters go through it, pitchers go through it, bullpen guys go through it, and closers,” Gonzalez said. “I think we’re going through that a little bit like that. You ride it out.”

Lowe is now 1-4 with a 7.52 ERA over his past five starts, with a .365 opponents’ batting average. Lowe has allowed four or more runs in four of those five starts dating back to his July 10 loss in Philadelphia.

The Braves have two top prospects Julio Teheran and Mike Minor in Triple-A with major league experience. But they also know Lowe has a history of doing his best pitching come playoff time. Lowe went 5-0 with a 1.17 ERA last September.

“He has a track record,” Gonzalez said.

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richbrave

August 3rd, 2011
3:42 pm

no comments – how appropriate. Of course FREDI is standing by LOWE, of course he is, heh,heh, heh!

Bobby

August 3rd, 2011
3:42 pm

But if we don’t send him down we might not make the playoffs.

Hooter Girl

August 3rd, 2011
3:43 pm

Freddi is struggling also.

Hooter Girl

August 3rd, 2011
3:44 pm

Put Lowe in the bullpen, he is good for an inning ortwo.

richbrave

August 3rd, 2011
3:45 pm

Hey HOOTS, you said it, I didn’t.

Sam

August 3rd, 2011
3:48 pm

D Lowe reminds me of Kenshin Kawakami right now…

ITALIAN_29

August 3rd, 2011
3:51 pm

Well, that might be a bit of a Stretch Sam, KK was winless for almost a year in a Brave’s Uni.

PMC

August 3rd, 2011
3:51 pm

Lowe can’t handle heat. He’s always terrible in the heat of the summer. He’ll be better again when it gets cooler. Most of the problem with Lowe is that he’s vastly; remarkably overpaid for his performance.

Von Trapp

August 3rd, 2011
3:52 pm

Ve gave up on Uggla and now he serves das crow to all who disbelive. Lowe needs to serve das crow now.

It's Teheran Time!

August 3rd, 2011
3:56 pm

D-Lowe reminds me of Shane Reynolds situation with Bobby.

the truth...

August 3rd, 2011
3:56 pm

Fredi…..don’t be stupid….Lowe is going downhill and if left to his 7.54 era or whatever he is, it will take the Braves down in 2011.

Fredi, are you not smart enough to know that matter how great a guy you are, you are on the hot seat here this year? Don’t let another DUMB DECISION like sticking with Lowe take you down…

Stiffneck

August 3rd, 2011
4:03 pm

Bring up Mike Minor.

Hooter Girl

August 3rd, 2011
4:11 pm

What kind of manager is behind by two in the ninth with two out, one on and Chipper and Hinske in the dugout to pinch hit but allows his worst hitter to bat?

Mike

August 3rd, 2011
4:18 pm

why did he give up on Heyward?

Hit A Single

August 3rd, 2011
4:23 pm

It sure is easy to second guess Fredi. I think he has done a great job so far. He has had to deal with more injuries and struggling players that were counted on heavily (Uggla and Heyward). It is a long season and I feel the veteran Lowe will turn it around.

Hooter Girl

August 3rd, 2011
4:24 pm

Mike, did you see that last at bat?

Hooter Girl

August 3rd, 2011
4:25 pm

Thank God for the bullpen, gotta get ready to go to work.

Stizz

August 3rd, 2011
4:26 pm

Automatic 2.5 game lead in WC since one of Ari/SF has to lose.

I don’t want any of San Fran’s pitching in the playoffs. TIme to hop on the Arizona train.

PMC

August 3rd, 2011
4:26 pm

Hooter Girl

August 3rd, 2011
4:26 pm

Hit a single, stop drinking the Kool-Aid.

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Smitty

August 3rd, 2011
4:40 pm

He will stand by Lowe but not Heyward. Heyward has also been better than Prado. Massive double standard going on here.

fred

August 3rd, 2011
4:41 pm

The kiss of Death..he just said how much he liked JS and then he was gone…maybe the same for Lowe..I hope!

Hit A Single

August 3rd, 2011
5:00 pm

Hooter Girl – This kool- aid is good. Hey you need to put on some long pants.

Rowsdower

August 3rd, 2011
5:09 pm

Why am I not surprised?

shawn

August 3rd, 2011
5:09 pm

Low should have never given a four year, $60 Mil contract. F. Gonz needs to bench him if he does not turn it around on his next start,,,,,,Hopefully, we will trade him in the offseason……….

Rowsdower

August 3rd, 2011
5:13 pm

I guess we have to endure another bLoweup because Fredi realizes the guy isn’t a starter anymore. They better have Teheran lined up for the impending explosion.

Tomas

August 3rd, 2011
5:19 pm

Track records don’t mean much when you’re old Fredi…..or else Chipper would have a 300 AVG with 30 HR, an 100 RBI’s

keepinitreal

August 3rd, 2011
5:27 pm

A guy can suck out loud all year long, and Fredi will just say that he’s “going through a tough stretch.”

Come on, Fredi; open up your eyes and start seeing what the rest of us are seeing – that Lowe is completely finished as a major league starting pitcher.

I just can’t understand why, in the heat of a playoff race, you “ride it out” with a guy who is killing the team.

Guy DeZarn

August 3rd, 2011
5:33 pm

The level of discourse on this site is so lacking that I’m resolved not to read anything but the aritcles (not the postings) from now on…what a bunch of maroons!

Go Braves!

Steve

August 3rd, 2011
5:33 pm

Lowe’s stats show hitters adjust after the first at-bat. Sounds like a recipe for Lowe in the bullpen.

Guy DeZarn

August 3rd, 2011
5:39 pm

And look at that…after a good, solid night last night by Alex, he gets one of our seven hits and one of our six RBI’s…thank goodness we didn’t go by the popular sentiment on this website and bench him!

Go Braves!

brandon

August 3rd, 2011
5:41 pm

Lowe needs to see if he could pitch better by not flailing his arms, shaking his head, and looking disgruntled before the pitch he throws reaches the catcher’s glove. It’s funny sometimes, but it seems like he does it after every pitch now. I don’t think he’s comfortable out there at all anymore…

Let's Go

August 3rd, 2011
5:51 pm

Lowe’s next 2 starts will come against the Marlins and the Cubs so he better show something in those 2 starts because after that things get tough with the D-Backs and Giants coming to town and he would have to pitch in one of those games. He’s not going to be sent to AAA but come Sept if he hasn’t figured his problems out he could be sent to the bullpen and one of the studs at AAA picks up some starts.

Let's Go

August 3rd, 2011
5:55 pm

Guy DeZarn @ 5:39

If the Braves went by the popular sentiment of this blog Dan Uggla would be playing in Mississippi and Jordan Shafer and his .220 average would be our CF.

henry from TN

August 3rd, 2011
5:55 pm

stick with him fredi and you will loose ever 5 game

Guy

August 3rd, 2011
5:58 pm

Well said Let’s Go!

Big Dude

August 3rd, 2011
6:02 pm

Of course he’s going to stand by D Lowe, but the fact still remains that D Lowe has lost it. Braves thought about trading him a couple of years ago and he got mad. They caved and now it’s costing them…

Noholdsbarred

August 3rd, 2011
6:27 pm

Freddie G is full of IT . . . and I thought Cox was too easy on players! this guy is UNREAL . . . just sits and watches as his pitcher blows then says something stupid about why he didn’t do anything. I thought he was a good manager when he was with the Marlins but NOW I KNOW why he was fired–just plain DUMB. And why was Beachy held up at third and then sent home on a stupid ground ball to 3rd–EASY OUT at home. Some great coaching there !

MBrave

August 3rd, 2011
6:31 pm

I’d rather Fredi “stood by” Jason Heyward.

Guy

August 3rd, 2011
6:33 pm

Yeah, I can’t stand those future Hall of Fame managers…what idiots!

63 year Braves fan

August 3rd, 2011
6:42 pm

After watching Lowe pitch batting practice last night, I say time to bring up those phenoms from
Gwinnet. i doubt they could do any worse. Fredi has got to learn that Lowe unravels fast. Always
have the bullpen ready.

63 year Braves fan

August 3rd, 2011
6:45 pm

Costanza is a vast improvement over over-hyped Heywood. Why wasn’t he brought up 2 months ago?

panamajack

August 3rd, 2011
6:54 pm

OK, keep Lowe and fire Fredi then the new manager can dispose of Lowe, he might be ok for 2 innings in the bull pen, otherwise start Lowe and let him pitch 2 innings then get some warmed up for long releif. When Lowe blows he can give up 6 runs before you can bat your eye, you know it is going to happen so be ready for it.

bustersonly

August 3rd, 2011
6:57 pm

Get rid of Proctor and bring up Teheran or Minor. I have more confidence in Varvaro than Linebrink.

bustersonly

August 3rd, 2011
7:02 pm

@Mike & Smitty Look at the numbers, I can only think of one reason you guys fel that way.

Hank

August 3rd, 2011
7:02 pm

Fredi….If you keep using Lowe you won’t be in the playoffs to show us we are wrong. Face it Fredi, he’s done as a starting pitcher.

Jimmy

August 3rd, 2011
7:07 pm

Hm Lowe’s had 15 out of 16 below average to bad months as a Brave, but yea Fredi he’s just going just a rough stretch. I’m sure he’ll snap right out of it.

virgilshouse

August 3rd, 2011
7:10 pm

fg does not like heyward

Rowsdower

August 3rd, 2011
7:39 pm

Fredi does not like guys that don’t hustle (see: Ramirez, Hanley & Heyward, Jason)

Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)

August 3rd, 2011
7:41 pm

Fredi better be right because if Lowe continues to under perform……..

He could cost us the wild card. Then Fredi has no one to blame other than himself. Again, our manager better be right or else.

Gonzalea Is Stupid

August 3rd, 2011
7:42 pm

Gonzalez is just plain STUPID!!!!! Lowe Stinks and will continue to Stink! Lay the loss of being in the LCS right at the feet of the stupid excuse we have for a manager…..he can’t even carry the water bucket for Bobby Cox, much less replace him……maybe we can enforce the Immigration Bill against him and load him up on the next cattle car out of town………

rickman

August 3rd, 2011
8:18 pm

YES
Lowe stinks…

Bigwheel

August 3rd, 2011
8:18 pm

Brian Wilson more popular than good. Agree or disagree?

space monkey

August 3rd, 2011
9:05 pm

Great. We are now guaranteed to lose 20 percent of our remaining games.

tim

August 3rd, 2011
9:07 pm

just a thought but FG might have a better idea about major league ballplayers than any of us posting comments

Bug Lump

August 3rd, 2011
9:11 pm

I wonder how different this team would be with Ozzie Guillen as manager.

Brandon

August 3rd, 2011
9:26 pm

I agree with Tim. Let’s let Freddi run the team, I mean we are doing pretty good this year, even with all the injuries.

wjones

August 3rd, 2011
10:12 pm

OK, everybody sing along: “Stand by your man, give him two arms to hold to….”

Seriously, Freddie isn’t going to throw Lowe under the bus, but I’m thinking that if Lowe pitches another “gem” like this last one his next start, it might be attributed to an “injury” which will land him on the DL until September, whereupon he will be assigned to the bullpen. Also hopefully by then we will catch some cooler weather, thus saving him from sweating more weight off.

How different would this team be with Ozzie Guillen as manager? Well, Ozzie is insane, he’s always getting into little pissy fights with players and his GM, and yet he continues to bat Adam Dunn in the middle of the order, who is his DH and is nowhere near .200. His numbers make Uggla become Pretta.

Stumpknocker

August 3rd, 2011
10:19 pm

How quick we forget that Cox cost this team an average of 10 wins a year by being too slow to re-act to opposing rally situations. Give Freddie G a chance, he’s certainly no worse than Cox.

Jason BAY

August 4th, 2011
12:33 am

Hopefully they will release him.

Retired 6 years too late

August 4th, 2011
3:33 am

Bobby Cox……………………..Division Titles………………..LMAO! Freddie G AKA Bobby Lite!

FlyOnTheWall

August 4th, 2011
8:09 am

superiorblogman

August 3rd, 2011
7:39 pm

I hope Freddi Gonzalez gets poisoned when he eats his next burrito. LMAO.
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I don’t agree with Fredi’s management decisions either…but that is uncalled for….this is just a game!

And since when is Heyward playing better than Prado…I guess you can’t read stats? Did you watch him yesterday? He is completely lost at the plate.

Bernard

August 4th, 2011
8:47 am

…whatever!!!…the braves have a track record of denial…delusional loyalty to MEDIOCRITY (very blind faith)…”Can you move a little faster through that valley of the shadow of death” PPPPLEASE!!!

Lemke's Knuckler

August 4th, 2011
10:38 am

Anyone else notice Vizcaino has been pitching out of the bullpen at Gwinnett? Wonder if he’ll get a call up this month so he’s eligible for postseason in case he does well in September.

Doug

August 4th, 2011
11:30 am

Lowe was at one time a fine closer with the Red Sox, he could be a big plus in middle relief and one of our so-so (lefty) relief pitchers could be waived. Bringing up Minor is not a bad idea…. still would have Lowe in shape & rested more if needed later as a starter.

Then again this makes to much sense I suppose? afterall we are only fans.

Brava

August 4th, 2011
12:21 pm

Well, it looks like “superiorblogman” has finally been kicked out of here. Thank you DOB or Carroll you’ve provided a great service to mankind.

Now, as to Lowe. If Fredi is going to stick by him, he needs to start warming up his long relief guy, Martinez, in the 5th inning because Lowe cannot go more than that when it’s hot. It makes no sense to even send him out for the 6th, as we’ve seen over and over that he simply unravels. Frankly, I’d rather see Lowe sent to the bullpen where he can be good for a couple of innings to spell the other starters who are also showing signs of fatigue. Proctor could then be DFA. Minor or one of the others at Gwinnett should be brought up to start.

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William O

August 4th, 2011
12:45 pm

I get a kick out of you guys. you down bobby cox, a hall of fame manager. Bobby was anything but soft. freddie should have been paying more attention when he was coaching for bobby. getting thrown out of some games sticking up for your players isnt a bad thing. niether is benching a star when hes not doing so good. hes still 18 games over 500. its just that philly is playing at a blazing pace. whet are they 20 of 22 in the last month. they cant keep that pace up. plus they lose a player and then they buy one. the braves always bring up a minor leaguer. thats why they have a team batting average of 220. now the pitchers are all getting tired of carrying the team for the whole year and they are getting tired. and thier two best players are on the DL. I dont know if they can ride it out without Mac in the lineup/ they now have a leadoff man and nobody to knock him in. dont blame the pitchers for whats going on when they leave 43 guys on base in five games. they have been getting hits but nobody is knocking in any runs and Im repeating my self. it all started when Mac went on the DL. right now the best hitter on the team is freeman. ugla is starting to hit like the player we signed but they are all solo shots. Hes got to get some with men in scoring position. nothing wrong with heyward hes just got to right his swing and stop pulling for the right field fence. be more patient and stop swinging at the first pitch. do that and he will be fine. Gonzo needs to be lowered to the 8 hole. put constanza in the 2 put heyward in the seven til he finds his swing. hes not going to find it riding the bench keep ugla in the cleanup til mac gets back and put prado in the three hole

William O

August 4th, 2011
12:51 pm

maybe they can bring up a pitcher and go with a six man rotation and maybe have lowe skip a start. designate proctor for assignment and bring up someone for the pen See what happens with a six man rotation and almost make it an audition for the post season

Buckhead Po Po

August 4th, 2011
2:49 pm

Derek is still spending his night’s partying and drinking. You can literally see the alcohol pouring off his forehead as he pitches. Freddi needs to step in and get this guy some help. Next time he won’t get a slap on the wrist it will be jail time.

MikeinLA

August 4th, 2011
4:01 pm

You guys are out of your minds. Braves have the 4th best record in baseball and want Freddie Gonzalez gone. The only 3 teams in front of us have payrolls north of 160 million. Given the injuries, poor performances from regulars, and payroll restrictions he has done a fantastic job. At least 25 other fanbases would trade places with us in a hearbeat

alexcox

August 4th, 2011
8:15 pm

bueno yo subo ala granja para hayuda el bulpen ( arodis) y para los stars intercalo con los veterano y ala misma ves c ban criando hasta tenerlos listo. ala misma ves los stars tendran (menor medlen randall julio). sundescanso.esto seria un balance q le daria una ventaja en los playoff y amigos seria mortal para LOS CONTENDIENTES .por ejemplo los cerveseros sanluis estan en una guerra en su division q estan aagotandos sus stars al = q sanfrancisco y arisona.AHORA falta QUIENTIN. ALMA D PODER NSESARIA.

Charlie

August 4th, 2011
9:42 pm

Fredi is sticking with Lowe. What a surprise! This guy never has shown an ounce of balls all year. He is a major disappointment. He has shown all along, an inability to manage or to lead. He has truly reached his level of incompetence. Fredi has fulfilled the Peter Principle.

George

August 5th, 2011
8:21 am

Same O Same O.

deb

August 5th, 2011
10:03 am

Remember last year? the same thing happened to him, then he got H-O-T when we needed him most, in September.

John A

August 5th, 2011
12:04 pm

I am convinced that Frick & Frack (FW & FG) are two unguided missles. Fredi puts on the field what Frank provides him with, and as stated many times Frank is not the brightest crayon in the box.

As for Lowe, I agree…put him in the bullpen. That makes more ense than having him continually botching games. Even Proctor would be better.

As long as we are loaded with SLUGS (Lowe, Lugo, McLouth, Linebrink)(all of which are overpaid) and Wanna B’s (Boscan, Constanza, Heyward*,Martinez, Varvaro, Proctor)(JHEY needs some time at AAA to rebuild confidence) we will never make the playoffs. Instead of worrying about guys (pitchers) that in all likelyhood will never play on the BIG team, trade them for what is needed. With the staff as is (minus Lowe) who are these guys in Gwinnett going to replace? Are they career minor leaguers?

Most teams that are contending have strong benches, but do the Braves? Nooooooooooooooo!!!! Frank wouldn’t know bench strength if it slapped him in the face. Our bench players really scare the hell out of the opposition with averages below their weight, and bullpen members (other than the main three) that hardly reckonize a baseball. Example….With the salary that Linebrink is being paid I expect more. McLouth claims to be a major leaguer, but has not demonstrated that ability since becoming a Brave, at 7M for this season I expect more than a .220 hitter with less than average fielding ability. He must be holding something over the heads of upper management !!!!!! That’s right Frank & John !!! What in GOD’s name does he have on you guys? It’s simple math boys….if my job performance wasn’t any better than that demonstrated by Nate, you can bet your life I would be looking for a job, and certainly not getting a pay raise.

John has time passed you by and left you smelling the roses? Your replacement (Frank) has got to be an embarassment to you. He has made more stupid moves in two seasons than you made in the fourteen year run.

wrong doing

August 5th, 2011
1:42 pm

Lowes been good for about 4 innings then but after that he can’t get anyone out. Freddie ’s got to pull him sooner than he has. I wanted to ring his neck the other night when after giving up a grand slam and finally getting out of the inning he let him start the 5th. A double and home run later he takes him out. And what about Jurgens pitching problems? He’s lost 3-4 mph from his fastball taking away his out pitch. His fastball has been between 89 -91 mph. Our starters have been average at best lately.

JuneBaby

August 5th, 2011
8:10 pm

He sticks with d-lowe and throws j-hey under the bus, not so odd when you consider the Braves track record with certain players.

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