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Rowsdower
July 29th, 2011
7:14 pm
@Ralph – Not all that worried about the last 8 games. It’s a small sample. Braves still have a nice lead in the Wild Card and are still within hailing distance of the Phillies.
Pitching is too strong to have a lengthy losing streak. If this team gets healthy and starts putting the ball in play with a runner on 3B and less than 2 outs (a BIG if) they’re gonna be fine. Lowe won’t get a start in the playoffs. Bobby Cox loves veterans, but Fredi will go with the hot hands.
Brava
July 29th, 2011
7:14 pm
Jayson Stark
Multiple sources say no more talk of 3-team deal for Pence. If #Phillies-#Astros deal happens, it will just be 2-team swap #trades
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2011
7:14 pm
Watching the Phillies game
I had no idea that C. Morton was 1st round pick???
njbraves
July 29th, 2011
7:15 pm
Nollee… I wasn’t asking for you to tell me anything. I hate the Yankees, but I’ll say this, they always do what is best for the ballclub. Of course they don’t win every year, but that’s nearly impossible in this day and age. The Braves, on the other hand, are too cheap and too obsessed with minor leaguers to do what is best for the team. Say what you want, but I’m right.
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:15 pm
my guess in a pinch he probably could
anybody CAN play short, even Adam Dunn. but realistically not if the pinch lasted more than one game. he has no range nor enough arm for the throw from deep short to be regularly successful.
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2011
7:15 pm
Lowe will be useful out of the Pen in the Playoffs
Especially with Little Big Man MED’s not coming back
Peter
July 29th, 2011
7:16 pm
I hate when we play the Marlins. My MLB.tv is blacked out and I have to listen to the Marlins announcers. I hope Uggla homers tonight so I can listen to them groan.
faninva
July 29th, 2011
7:17 pm
Peter
July 29th, 2011
7:16 pm
I hate when we play the Marlins. My MLB.tv is blacked out and I have to listen to the Marlins announcers. I hope Uggla homers tonight so I can listen to them groan.
I have the same issue when the braves play the nationals. nationals broadcast team is just the worst.
Mudge
July 29th, 2011
7:17 pm
With a good pitching staff and average hitting, you need solid defense up the middle. Bad defense loses games. That’s why, to his credit, Fredi wants to play AGon and Schafer. A better offensive player may win a game or two, but a good defensive player can avoid losing a game or two.
richie
July 29th, 2011
7:18 pm
When ever the Derek Lowe from last years stretch runs shows up then we will have a rotation good enough to not make a move. Truth is, he isnt and smoltzy and maddawg arent walking through the door anytime soon. We gotta have the pieceS to make a decent run.
Rowsdower
July 29th, 2011
7:18 pm
I fully expect to see one of the Braves elite pitching prospects in the bullpen if they make the playoffs along with Lowe. Lowe is excellent the 1st time through the lineup. He is horrid the 2nd and 3rd time. Makes sense to have him in the pen.
BravesFanInPA
July 29th, 2011
7:18 pm
If Prado cant play short then we need to trade his butt!!!!!
K with a K
July 29th, 2011
7:19 pm
Enter your comments here
The A Bomb
July 29th, 2011
7:19 pm
Frank Wren is to baseball what Jozef Stalin was to government….
Do the Braves have secret police as well?
All this silence for Ludwick? Doesn’t make sense.
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:20 pm
Say what you want, but I’m right.
about what? that you aren’t satisfied with what they do? well of course you’re right about that.
about the rest? maybe not so much. The YanKs have won just about the same umber of games over the last 2o years with a payroll this is now always double and sometimes near triple the Braves.
If the Braves had that money it wouldn’t even be close, but they don’t. I still suggest the Yanks for you though
billmaier
July 29th, 2011
7:20 pm
mlb is reporting that pence deal with the phillies is a foregone conclusion talking about how much better the phil willbe with pence in their lineup–=-== hope it is not true- but frank wont include minor- for what reson does anyone know? when he willbe our nine starter next year
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2011
7:20 pm
Brave Fan
“We wont get Pence. He isn’t nearly the player all the talk makes him anyway. Yeah, he is a good player but not worth what the Phillies tried to give. The problem with that is that the Phils are turning into Junior Yankees – ”
Co-Sign! Hunter Pence will be another Nate McLouth! Pence pads his stats because he has played on a Garbage team and in a hitters park a majority of his career
Hell No to Pence, but I will take him over Slop like Lugnut and Willingham
AlabamaBrave
July 29th, 2011
7:21 pm
Mudge
July 29th, 2011
7:17 pm
With a good pitching staff and average hitting, you need solid defense up the middle. Bad defense loses games. That’s why, to his credit, Fredi wants to play AGon and Schafer. A better offensive player may win a game or two, but a good defensive player can avoid losing a game or two.
Too bad we don’t have average hitting
NV 049
July 29th, 2011
7:21 pm
TomHawkin Charlie Morton RHP 3rd round 2002 Braves
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/draft.jsp?c_id=atl&year=2002
Mixxo
July 29th, 2011
7:21 pm
Phillies lead 1-0 in the 1st!!!
MFin04
July 29th, 2011
7:21 pm
Charlie Morton had allowed two Phillies baserunners and had picked them both off, only one was called out.
Now Utley drives one of them in. Bad luck again for the Pirates.
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2011
7:22 pm
Futley with a RBI Triple!
I’m turning that Trash off!
Pirates are looking like the NL Central team that can only win in its division
I got gout
July 29th, 2011
7:22 pm
Reguarding the old adage: S*** or get off the pot..
Frank does not get off the pot until all the toilet paper is gone.
MFin04
July 29th, 2011
7:23 pm
Stat of the night…Phillies have scored in 95% of their first innings this year.
Mixxo
July 29th, 2011
7:23 pm
Prado can barely play third…..and someone mentions SS???? lol
Phillies 2-0 bott 1st.
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:23 pm
only NL Central team that can only win in its division
I thought they just split with us?
Peter
July 29th, 2011
7:24 pm
Apparently Jack Mckeon managed the 1964 Atlanta Crackers.
Kat
July 29th, 2011
7:24 pm
Peter … if you’re willing to use a torrent you could watch the game here:
http://www.myp2pforum.eu/threads/58624-Streaming-MLB-Today-Friday-29-July
BravesfansinNC
July 29th, 2011
7:25 pm
I think someone need to test Wren ASAP to see if he is on drugs .Seriously.Our lineup even when healthy is week.We having hard time scoring runs.We need a power hitter.Someone like pence and or Quentin.And Instead Wren is focusing on getting Ryan Ludwick.I mean look at the Phillies.They doing everything they can they to win now.The Phillies prospect are not as good as the Braves.Yet they are trying to do everything they can to win the World Series .Maybe I am wrong but is not the goal to do everything you can to reach the World Series and win it?
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:25 pm
yup Jack is even older than I am
N8
July 29th, 2011
7:25 pm
“Say what you want, but I’m right.”
What if what I want to say is that you’re wrong? We’d find ourselves in one helluva pickle then, wouldn’t we?
K with a K
July 29th, 2011
7:26 pm
I say we get Upton and Byrd. But would love both Q and Upton. What is stoping us from getting Q and Upton…we have the talent is it the cost of both players going forward. With the chance of not seeing Chipper a ton this year maybe if that knee is still a problem we could play both on a reg basis. Plus next year our OF would be LF Q CF Upton and RF J-Hey.
njbraves
July 29th, 2011
7:26 pm
Noliee ….You really have no idea what you’re talking about. Just forget it, continue to be happy with a team that is almost good enough.
Peter
July 29th, 2011
7:27 pm
no thanks Kat, I don’t like watching it on the laptop. I normally watch mlbtv on my ps3 so it goes to my TV. Thanks for the info though. I can always mute it if it gets bad.
keylargo
July 29th, 2011
7:27 pm
Charlie Morton has finally filled out. He was almost anorexic looking in Atlanta and now he looks like he’s put on about 30 much needed pounds.
Phils score 95% of the time in the first. I call BS.
Brava
July 29th, 2011
7:28 pm
Ken Rosenthal
#Braves want “athletic corner bat” to control beyond this year. That describes Pence. Quentin less athletic. Ludwick, Willingham FAs.
Tomas
July 29th, 2011
7:28 pm
I like Willingham’s bat, he’s Oakland best hitter, consider that’s a very tough ballpark, and he was an offense Machine with the Nats, great OBP, power vs lefties and clutch. Now defense, awful, almost Adam Dunn awful, he can play LF barely, has played RF(when the Nats had the worst defense in mlb).
Ludwick as DOB pointed out, can play all 3 OF positions decently. But not really worth it, his bat won’t make a difference.
I like BJ Upton, Carlos Quentin, and as a last resort Josh Willingham. Theyve certain talents that will make a difference be that power, speed, and defense
BravesfansinNC
July 29th, 2011
7:28 pm
@Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
#Braves want “athletic corner bat” to control beyond this year. That describes Pence. Quentin less athletic. Ludwick, Willingham FAs. #MLB
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2011
7:29 pm
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:23 pm
[only NL Central team that can only win in its division]
“I thought they just split with us?”
We still won the season series 4-2. Now That’s the Ackerman Security “Lock of The Year!” Lock It Up!
njbraves
July 29th, 2011
7:29 pm
N8….Thank God you’re always there to be an idiot. Can’t wait to read your next novel on what you think the Braves should do.
N8
July 29th, 2011
7:29 pm
“When Ludwick-Braves rumor was mentioned on MLB network on clubhouse TV, one #Braves veteran said he’d love to have Ludwick on team.”
Yeah, it was probably A-Gone, figuring with Ludwick around he wouldn’t be the worst hitting everyday player in the lineup anymore.
chc4
July 29th, 2011
7:29 pm
As bad as Heyward has been, if we can get someone as unexciting as Ludwick to play some RF it wouldn’t be a bad move. I suspect Ludwick can be had without even giving up Minor.
Brave Fan
July 29th, 2011
7:30 pm
The Phillies have a leadoff hitter that teams have to account for. Thats why they score early!!!
We haven’t had a good one(Can take piches and work deep in the count without striking out, bunt for hits, spray the ball around the field and make contact, make pitchers have to throw over and slide step to make pitchers work and concentrate less on getting hitters out, make the defense account for speed, steal bases……..)! and then play a solid OF.
We haven’t had one since Otis.
Get Bourn if the Astros are stupid enough to deal him!!
The A Bomb
July 29th, 2011
7:30 pm
Not only is Morton throwing like Lowe, he’s perspiring just like Lowe.
Quite a tribute.
Tony Austin
July 29th, 2011
7:30 pm
We really can’t worry about the Phillies, I really don’t think they are going to be caught anyway. Just get the piece(s) needed and play like they did before the break and the WC should be easy for the Braves to obtain.
I’d rather win the division of course, but the WC is better than nothing.
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:30 pm
….You really have no idea what you’re talking about. njc
that the Braves have won as many games over the last twenty years as the Yanks with half the payroll? Yeah actually I do know what I’m talking about.
You are welcome to you “must win”opinion but it isn’t a right/wrong kinda thing except in your mind. and the fact that someone else disagrees with you doesn’t make them “wrong”
N8
July 29th, 2011
7:31 pm
njbraves calling me an idiot. Must have the similar feeling to being called short by an oompa loompa.
Thanks for your input. Go root for the Yankees or another big market team jackass.
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:31 pm
I bet they think Ludwick is athletic. Is he controlled past this year?
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2011
7:32 pm
Wow The Marlins are near .500???
They will Play Us like The Phillies from Here on out, Bank On It!
I got gout
July 29th, 2011
7:32 pm
Ole trader Jack knows how to get the Fish goin
Teejayy
July 29th, 2011
7:32 pm
If we get Willingham or Ludwick I’m going to rage. BJ Upton or Michael Bourn PLEASE.
Heath
July 29th, 2011
7:33 pm
The only reason I think the Braves could go for Pence is if they already have a good idea that Chipper is going to retire after this year and Prado will start at 3B. Then Pence could play LF, Heyward in Right… It would make sense to get him if that was the plan.
Mixxo
July 29th, 2011
7:33 pm
the marlins WANT this!
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2011
7:33 pm
Ice Cube RULES!!!
Brave Fan
July 29th, 2011
7:34 pm
Stay away from Upton, please!
Tomas
July 29th, 2011
7:34 pm
Wang back on the big league’s. Mets leading 4-0 through 2
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:34 pm
yes they do, but I have it on good source that the Braves don’t really care one way or another
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2011
7:34 pm
I’m Just Tired of Rasmus, Lugnut, and Willingham mentioned on here year after year as if they are the next coming of trading for Fred McGriff???
No Crying
July 29th, 2011
7:35 pm
Okay, I am ripping off Dave Bromberg’s Traveling man but you get the point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4txludUeYCw
Rowsdower
July 29th, 2011
7:35 pm
16 games in a row against garbage teams. Gotta win at least 12 of them. Can’t be a playoff team if you can’t beat sub .500 teams…
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2011
7:36 pm
Heath
“The only reason I think the Braves could go for Pence is if they already have a good idea that Chipper is going to retire after this year and Prado will start at 3B. Then Pence could play LF, Heyward in Right… It would make sense to get him if that was the plan.”
Thats A Damn Good Point! I have not here that mentioned anywhere Here in The “A”!
Heath do you live out here?
Come On B.B.
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:36 pm
near 500 is not garbage in baseball, can beat any team in a short series
Choppinmama
July 29th, 2011
7:37 pm
OK, the new guy needs to hit a homer in his first ML at-bat to keep the tradition alive.
Welcome to the show, Mr Constanza.
later gator
July 29th, 2011
7:37 pm
Another day with nothing new. At least Nate is out so we don;t have to look at him crying all the time.
Tomas
July 29th, 2011
7:38 pm
I wasn’t on board with Upton, but the change of scenary theory makes a lot of sense with him. On pace for 30 homers, 40 steals, and great defense(has a CANON)
Mixxo
July 29th, 2011
7:38 pm
16 games in a row against garbage teams….
That doesn’t bode well for us.
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2011
7:38 pm
Nice start, Brandon…
I got gout
July 29th, 2011
7:39 pm
Nate is out? Is he DLl’d? until 2053?
njbraves
July 29th, 2011
7:39 pm
N8…. Go eff yourself. I’m so sick of a- holes like you on here, who think they’re so damn smart. You post these 10 paragraph rants about nothing every day. My favorite was the one where you suggested trading McCann… Great call on that one genius.
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:39 pm
yes has a cannon. great defense? not so much lately. He has been crap going deep for about three years now. must to too much trouble for him to do any more
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2011
7:40 pm
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2011
7:36 pm
Heath
“The only reason I think the Braves could go for Pence is if they already have a good idea that Chipper is going to retire after this year and Prado will start at 3B. Then Pence could play LF, Heyward in Right… It would make sense to get him if that was the plan.”
“Thats A Damn Good Point! I have not here that mentioned anywhere Here in The “A”!
I meant to say that I have not heard that mentioned anywhere here in the “A”! ”
I’m already Slippin and I’m just on Samuel Jackson #2
later gator
July 29th, 2011
7:40 pm
Wren must still be napping. Ludwig is just like what they have already another 240 hitter.
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:41 pm
lotsa anger up there in Jersey . kinduva the state hobby I guess
George
July 29th, 2011
7:41 pm
WOW No NATE The BRAVES are dropping like flys after being sprayed. Gametine, outta here. Have a good one y’ll. LETS WIN IT BRAVES
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2011
7:41 pm
njbraves
“N8…. Go eff yourself. I’m so sick of a- holes like you on here, who think they’re so damn smart. You post these 10 paragraph rants about nothing every day. My favorite was the one where you suggested trading McCann… Great call on that one genius.”
OUCH!!!
That was Brutal!
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:41 pm
see ya george
Mixxo
July 29th, 2011
7:42 pm
Phillies up 3-0 top 2nd.
Brave Fan
July 29th, 2011
7:42 pm
Chipper is done. I said that with a few others back when he was as healthy as he has been this year. He has always been a great player and competitor. He doesn’t seem to me to be the kind of guy thats going to hang around and play average ball.
He said all last year that if it didn’t get better he was retiring last year. Then he got hurt and didn’t want to go out that way. He is done!!!
So get Bourne and another OF. It wont be Pence though.
later gator
July 29th, 2011
7:43 pm
Good inning
Kat
July 29th, 2011
7:43 pm
Peter.. I know what you mean. I use my laptop and hook it up to the TV…problem is then can’t use that computer. Looking into one of the Samsung Blu Ray players that have the mlb.tv app.
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2011
7:43 pm
Beachy trade value way up after that inning – quick, Frank!!!
SoWeGa Fanatic
July 29th, 2011
7:43 pm
Pence is very likely to be moved now, tweets SI’s Jon Heyman. He believes the Phillies are the favorite, with the Indians, Red Sox, and Reds also in.
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:43 pm
and he has said all this year that he plans to finish out the contract if he can
Tomahawkin
July 29th, 2011
7:43 pm
Phew!
That one was finally :”Too High!”
It sounded good off the bat though
Kat
July 29th, 2011
7:43 pm
“Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
From an evaluator: Braves looking to be creative and do a Hunter Pence deal. Still talking. #trades”
Mixxo
July 29th, 2011
7:44 pm
Mets up 4-0 on the Nats….here THEY come too.
Peter
July 29th, 2011
7:44 pm
Buster Olney just tweeted that the Braves are trying to be creative to do a Pence deal.
Tomas
July 29th, 2011
7:44 pm
nolie he is not consistent, no doubt, that’s the knock on him, but if the price is right(meaning no top prospects) then he is worth a shot. At least we know he won’t struggle on defense, and steal bases, while providing balance to a lefty heavy lineup
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2011
7:44 pm
Buster just tweeted “Braves trying to get creative on Pence deal – still talking,” according to one of his evaluators…
Rowsdower
July 29th, 2011
7:45 pm
No need for Can’t Stand Ya to hit a HR first AB. Schafer did that and suddenly thought he was a HR hitter.
I would rather see a bunt single/SB.
TaylorVol
July 29th, 2011
7:45 pm
If you have to cuss and use vulgarity, you should be permanently banned from this blog. Show some class, or leave the blog.
Sophee
July 29th, 2011
7:45 pm
Breathe, Mixxo.
later gator
July 29th, 2011
7:45 pm
They need to some speed. If you can’t run and most of the hitters are 240 or below that takes alot of hits in a row to score runs.
Sophee
July 29th, 2011
7:45 pm
Welcome, new new new guy!
Peter
July 29th, 2011
7:45 pm
CONSTANZA!!!
noliee
July 29th, 2011
7:46 pm
but he will struggle on defense too other than the arm. he is not who he was 4 years ago in the field.
Peter
July 29th, 2011
7:46 pm
I’m busting Jerry, I’m busting!!!
TnBrian
July 29th, 2011
7:46 pm
I like how Ross will go out there and give a young pitcher a pep talk.
njbraves
July 29th, 2011
7:46 pm
Noliee… Didn’t mean to be a jerk to you, just getting frustrated with the Braves. My bad. As far as n8 goes, the guy is a know it all who picks apart everyone else, but doesn’t like anyone to say anything to him.
VaBravesFan
July 29th, 2011
7:46 pm
Well this trade talk is driving me nuts… now were back in on Hunter Pence.