Braves quotes after Friday win against Marlins

***FREDI GONZALEZ

On Beachy

“Outstanding performance. He went up and down the strike zone, down and away, down and in, breaking ball over the plate, he was dominating today. And I thought Clay was pretty good too there. Danny got him, but (we got a) good pitching performance, Danny with a three-run homer and Freddie continues to swing a hot bat. We were able to add on some runs there late in the game.”

On if it was Beachy’s best start

“If it’s not the best start of the year it’s up there.”

On Uggla’s moment

“Big home run. And Clay was for me, pretty good to that point. Big for us. He kept off balance. He made a mistake over the plate and Danny got him.”

On Freeman and Uggla picking up slack in McCann/Chipper absence

“We’ve got the injuries. I talked to the club. No one person can take over. Everybody’s got to keep the line moving and contribute, make productive outs. (Runners) second and third, hit the ground ball, get the runner in, sac fly.”

On first sac fly in five weeks

“We’ll take that. That’s a productive out. We played great defense too. Big double play ball in the fifth after we booted one, Beachy came back and got another groundball double play. He did a nice job.”

On fun of seeing Constanza run some in his debut

“Yeah, big RBI, too, against a tough left-hander. He was able to get us that fourth run and run first to third it’s nice to see that. And good for him to get his first career base hit in his first game.”

***DAN UGGLA

“Clay is one of my best friends, not just in baseball but everywhere. So we’ve been talking crap to each other all week long. He really made me look like an idiot the first two at-bats, so it was nice to get one and put our team on top.”

On picking up some slack with McCann out

“No one person can pick up Mac’s slack. We’re going to have to come together as a team and just battle the way we’ve battled, until him and Chipper are both healthy. Once we get Chipper back, hopefully in the next day or two, it’s going to make a huge difference as well.”

What were you thinking rounding the bases against your former team after that homer?

“It really felt good. I try not to put too much emphasis on it, beyond the fact that it just put us in position to win, with the dominant bullpen we have.”

On the Phillies adding Pence

“They’ve made every move you can make in order to try to go for it. They got Cliff Lee in the offseason, they got Hunter Pence now, they’ve got unbelievable depth if somebody goes down; they’ve been picking each other up all year long. They’re a good team. But we are, too. And there’s a lot of other good teams that are going to make the playoffs, too.”

***BRANDON BEACHY

On being locked in a picthers’ duel

“It’s fun. When the score’s 0-0, tie game, every pitch matters. It just helps you focus even more.”

Getting through this game without giving up a homer

“It feel good, it really does. I’d like to say that’s not something I think about, but of course it is. Five or six starts in a row of giving up at least a homer. It was really nice to have one where I didn’t make that big mistake that cost us.”

On Uggla

“Wow. He’s been swinging the bat so well lately, it’s just a matter of time before those singles and doubles he’s been hitting turn into homers.”

On difference in his performance tonight, going deep in game and not giving up long ball

“The difference was me trying to pitch to contact. Especially early. Not trying to strike out everybody with each slider, throwing them over the zone and letting guys hit ground balls. Not falling way behind in the count and letting guys back in the count.

“It’s always fun to win, and it was fun to get deep in the game today. That’s something I’ve been telling you guys I want to work on all year. Finally, to get into the eighth inning and have a good one, it feels really good.”

***JOSE CONSTANZA, with Martin Prado translating

On his call-up (found out at 9 a.m. Friday morning)

“I was so happy. As soon as I found out I started calling people, my mom and everybody in the Dominican Republic.”

On his first at-bat emotions

“Nervous, anxious, but as soon as I saw the first pitch and swung, everything went away. Started taking good at-bats.”

On getting an RBI with first hit

“I’m happy to get a hit and an RBI to help the team.”

On finding a hole on fourth groundball

“The first two at-bats, I was anxious. I tried to battle until the end.”

322 comments Add your comment

Tyler

July 29th, 2011
11:16 pm

No need to cry about Pence people. Good win tonight though

jason

July 29th, 2011
11:17 pm

jason

July 29th, 2011
11:18 pm

I’m sure that Wren has a move up his sleeve to get a guy like Quinton and Upton.

Merlin

July 29th, 2011
11:20 pm

Price for Pence was way too high. For that price a CF and a SS with a middle reliever, Just tried to rape us. Oddly I agree with Wren here and I never do that

alex

July 29th, 2011
11:21 pm

great game by beachy
tip the cap to phillies,very good team,just got better;no tears-admiration for an organization that wants to win NOW, the future is too unpredictable(tommy john,obliques,knees, etc.)
Braves need to make a move,sitting pat leads to stagnation and decline(quick historical lesson?!)
Goodnight….

Just Wanna Say

July 29th, 2011
11:22 pm

Obviously down to Ludwick, Quentin, and Upton. That being said, Astros wanted two of the elite prospects plus another one that we hold in high regard. Wren made the right choice. That is an insane price.

JacketFan

July 29th, 2011
11:22 pm

Good win. Phillies are going to trade away their future, so let them. Pence wasn’t worth what Houston was asking. I know Costanza’s night wasn’t one for the books, but his performance goes to show you that we have some real talent in our system. Braves baseball IS our pitching – there’s no good in killing that for a late season pick up. Go Bravos!

Kyle

July 29th, 2011
11:22 pm

Nice game all the way around. Keep it going.

Just Wanna Say

July 29th, 2011
11:22 pm

We better still get a bat though, and we will.

NickB

July 29th, 2011
11:24 pm

I’m not that concerned with the Pence deal. The Phillies have slowly traded their future away and will be hurting in a few years when their old ,expensive team begins to crumble and they have to start trading them away to try and build the farm back. IMO, if the Astros wanted both Minor and Delgado as well as hooper…etc, FW was wise to turn it down. Heck, if we just end up with Upton in cf and ludwick on the bench… we should be fine . Quentin would be nice. But if it means benching Heyward I’m not sold ….

Stupid Suggestions

July 29th, 2011
11:25 pm

Finally, a sound victory. I’m pissed that the Giants got Beltran and Phillies got Pence, while Wren sits on his arse doing nothing. I’m afraid Upton isn’t gonna do the trick.

Kimbrel rocks

July 29th, 2011
11:25 pm

does anyone know what the braves offered houston for pence

Kemp

July 29th, 2011
11:25 pm

I wish we knew who the Braves were targeting.

Just Wanna Say

July 29th, 2011
11:26 pm

Not sure what the offer was, but we know what they asked for price wise.

Just Wanna Say

July 29th, 2011
11:27 pm

I didn’t think Michael Bourn was on #Braves radar, but apparently he is now. Ryan Ludwick more down the list of options. #trades

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NickB

July 29th, 2011
11:28 pm

I kinda hope we can get a deal for coco crisp and one of balfour or bailey from the A;s. That or Span from the Twins… Then add Ludwick as a slugging bench righty and sometime platoon guy for heyward against tough lefties

Joseph

July 29th, 2011
11:29 pm

Finally some logical responses to Pence. Most are……I wont finish. Good game tonight. Constanza, well done sir. That man is fast. I like a lead-off man hitting balls on the ground and running.

G

July 29th, 2011
11:30 pm

Frank Wren has once again proved he is outmatched.

Stupid Suggestions

July 29th, 2011
11:31 pm

I will say that I’ve enjoyed watching Uggla thrive the past 4 weeks or so. Keep it up Danny boy!

Just Wanna Say

July 29th, 2011
11:31 pm

FYI, that tweet I posted was from Crasnick. I wonder if its possible to get Bourn as the high cost and still get Ludwick or Willingham as cheaper options? And a reliever of course. That, I would be ok with. I just dont want one of those two to be the prized bats.

Just Wanna Say

July 29th, 2011
11:33 pm

And by outmatched you mean smart G? The price they were asking was insane. Thank God you’re not running the team. We cant buy our future like the Phils can.

Uncle Al

July 29th, 2011
11:33 pm

So, can Dan Uggla be voted Comeback Player of the Year for his second half as compared to his first half? :-)

daniel

July 29th, 2011
11:36 pm

had to be cool to hear martin prado translate. if the cubs are gonna eat the salary, why not go after alfonso soriano?

Stupid Suggestions

July 29th, 2011
11:37 pm

I think we should try to trade for Rick Ankiel again. He is a great utility guy who can play CF as well as come out of the bullpen. His home run in the NLDS proves he can hit for power and his low .200’s average will fit in perfect with the rest of the team. Make it happen Wren!

NickB

July 29th, 2011
11:38 pm

Bourn plus ludwick would work. The good thing about bourn ,isthat since he isnt a slugger we dont have to be as concerned about park affect in regards to his numbers. I’d go Minor and one of our low level arms for Bourn. Then add Ludwick/willingham…etc as a bench bat/platoon OF’er…. If we pickup another rh pen arm to boot I think this team would be fine.

A) span,bourn,upton,crisp
B)ludwick,willingham,reed johnson
C)bailey,belfour,lindstrom,gregerson

if we get on from each of the above columns i think this team is WS capable. if we get 2 out of the 3, i think we are still competitive. only one of the three? may be a first round and gone year again.

Brandon

July 29th, 2011
11:41 pm

Wren will not trade any of our young pitchers but newsflash people….pitchers don’t drive in runs. For those of you who think sitting hey ward is a bad idea, well grow up, he is not doing his job very well so maybe he should be sent down to triple-a until the end of their season, maybe it would help take the pressure off him. At this point though there just isn’t anyone out there who we should trade for. Bourne is only under contract until next year, and do we really give up on Schafer. Our team has been great on defense this year, so do really want Quentin’s butter fingers in right? Ludwick and upton are definate no’s being that what we have is just as good..

Kimbrel rocks

July 29th, 2011
11:41 pm

don’t forget we need a righty for BULLPEN ASAP. lot of talking about outfielder but how soon we forget the 100 runs given up by the pen lately

BrianSC

July 29th, 2011
11:42 pm

Great win Braves!!! Keep it going! Grind. Battle. One game at a time.

Phillies overpaid for Pence. That’s ok. Fine with me. Let them send away their future. They are violating the MLB Debt Service Rule (1 of 9 teams). They keep throwing money out there like it grows on trees. They are getting old. It will catch up.

I’d like to see the Braves get Quinton, as long as the price is reasonable.

Just Wanna Say

July 29th, 2011
11:45 pm

You think Schafer is just as good as Bourn? Look at the number. Bourn is a 300 hitter and a gold glover.

JackDennis

July 29th, 2011
11:45 pm

G: 11:30 Don’t be a dolt. Wren not outmatched. Philly gave up way to much for Pence. He’s a nice player, but not worth what they gave up.

Justin

July 29th, 2011
11:47 pm

Frank Wren is not at all outmatched and he made the right move. Pence isnt worth all of those prospects they wanted from us and Wren is still looking for some offense for the Braves. He will get someone productive to help us make a run at it, while keeping our super prospects in tact. He has the right approach, im my opinion. For some people to suggest that Wren is just sitting around doing nothing at all to try and make a move is laughable. Go Braves!

Brandon

July 29th, 2011
11:47 pm

I’m not saying Schafer is as good but do we really give up on him for a player that will leave next year…and cost 2of our “untouchable” prospects

Stupid Suggestions

July 29th, 2011
11:47 pm

“You think Schafer is just as good as Bourn? Look at the number. Bourn is a 300 hitter and a gold glover.”

Not only that, but he is well versed in the martial arts and is just now starting to learn who he really is.

Mark T

July 29th, 2011
11:47 pm

Thank goodness Frank Wren did not repeat the deal that brought me to Atlanta for a few months; or the one for my buddy JD.

Pence appears to be the real deal, but the price was too high.

Jason

July 29th, 2011
11:48 pm

According to Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports, the Braves have made the White Sox an offer for Quentin and the only thing holding the deal up is Dayan Viceido’s thumb injury because he is included in the deal! PRAYING that we get Quentin! We need a power bat! Great game tonight Braves!

Mister Frisky

July 29th, 2011
11:50 pm

Cant wait till next year when we unveil our 10 man rotation.You either win now or win later you can’t do both.It’s times like these when I refer to the Marlins.2 titles in 6 years.Braves one title since they moved down south.I would wager that the Fish get another one before the Braves.The truth shall set you free.

Joseph

July 29th, 2011
11:51 pm

Brandon…..butter fingers Quentin? What? Have you ever watched a White Sox game or Arizona game since 06? His worst Fielding percentage in any year was last year at 0.959. Minus that 1 year his next lowest fielding percentage is 0.971. This year he has a fielding percentage of 0.993. Butter fingers? Please know about someone before you criticize them sir.

NickB

July 29th, 2011
11:52 pm

@Jason you have the link for that? not that i dont believe you, i just wanna read the article

NickB

July 29th, 2011
11:52 pm

@Jason you have the link for that? not that i dont believe you, i just wanna read the article

Joseph

July 29th, 2011
11:52 pm

I’m going to sir you in the sirring sir, you mother sirrers.

DWAYNE

July 29th, 2011
11:52 pm

braves just got andruw jones

Jason

July 29th, 2011
11:55 pm

Here’s the link to Fox Sports MLB Trade rumors… http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/MLB-trade-deadline-trades-moves-news-player-movement-072611 I think something is going to get done tomorrow or Sunday with Quentin…

Justin

July 29th, 2011
11:56 pm

As for Heyward, give the man some time! He’s obviously struggling, but I remember Justin Upton struggling mightily early in his career, to the point where the D’Backs were going to send him back to AAA. He turned it around towards the end of the season and now he is a budding superstar. We just need to give these young guys some time to learn and adjust. Nowadays, we want everything to happen right away and if it doesnt, then toss them away and get someone else. It’s his second full season and I think he will turn it around.

NickB

July 29th, 2011
11:56 pm

@Joseph fielding percentage is a terrible way to judge defense. +/- or UZR even range factor are better (imi avg of all 3 is better) the prob with fld % is that you an be a statue and make every play hit right at you, but have great range and make a few errors getting to many more balls thus lowering your percentage, yet obviouly be a the much superior defender

NickB

July 29th, 2011
11:57 pm

thanx for da link jason :-)

Fred

July 29th, 2011
11:57 pm

Ludwick, no unless you get BJ Upton…..Ludwick is a rental thats not having a good year.
Willingham also rental ..CQ is good hitter but thats it..not worth Minor.
BJ Upton is the best all-around player there..he fits our needs, plays CF, hits for power, speed 24 sb, great arm, best defensive cf in al. would be a 30-30 player..give him a chance, you can always trade him if he don’t work plus you got him 2 years.

Jason

July 30th, 2011
12:01 am

Here we go folks! The man with the INFORMATION, MR. KEN ROSENTHAL! I would LOVE TO have Upton! He has major long term upside… As long as we don’t give up Teheran, I’m good with whatever… We MUST go for a World Championship THIS year! Read this… http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz/whats_next_for_the_braves/5821492?new_post=true

Jabbo

July 30th, 2011
12:01 am

Freeman’s hitting .295

Brandon

July 30th, 2011
12:01 am

@Justin….listen we are in a p,ayoff race which means all bets are off, if your not performing you don’t play, enough of these players being entitled to a spot

billmaier

July 30th, 2011
12:03 am

yep phillies gave up way to much not listen to mlb tv– three a ball players too much yet they wanted much more from the braves? betancourt, simmons and minor— way to much

NickB

July 30th, 2011
12:03 am

Hmmm, Span plus Joe Nathan (with Twins picking up most of Nathans $$$) for Minor , Oberholzer and Schafer wouldn’t be a bad deal either. Nathans been lights out for the last month

Joseph

July 30th, 2011
12:03 am

Nickb, I admit I do not believe in the saber thing. It is over analyzing in my opinion. There are some good stuff in it, but as a whole, I chose my concepts and past experiences. That said…..Even the developers of sabermetrics admit that defensive metrics are an inaccurate way to judge defense. Yes more balls gotten to equal more errors, but to call a man butter fingers insinuates that he touches the ball and drops it, does it not?

Justin

July 30th, 2011
12:05 am

@JeffPassan
Jeff Passan
Rival executive says Braves targeting center fielder. Doesn’t keep them from Quentin/Ludwick/Willingham, but they haven’t focused on them.

Justin

July 30th, 2011
12:05 am

just posted on twitter about 10 seconds ago

billmaier

July 30th, 2011
12:07 am

astros wanted from us two elite prospects and another one we didnt wante to give up? yet settle for three a ball players from phils and sent a milliopn dollars???? it was minor, betancourt and simmons but the braves didnt want to give up minor for a 300 hitter that averages 25 hrs every year

NickB

July 30th, 2011
12:07 am

Oh Quentin is a bad defender, but fielding percentage is just a poor way of judging it. UZR and the other stats have him in the bottom 3 in all of baseball at his position

Justin

July 30th, 2011
12:10 am

@Brandon By no means am I saying he is entitled. I’m saying he isnt a bum that needs to be traded, which is what I often read on the Braves’ blog sites. If we get a better option, he should sit more until he gets it going. I don’t think anyone is entitled, not Heyward or even Chipper who automatically hits 3rd, even though that shouldn’t be happening.

Jason

July 30th, 2011
12:12 am

Braves apparently HOT on the trail for Michael Bourn as well! Would be nice to stick SPEEDY GONZALEZ in the leadoff spot and actually play some REAL baseball, AHEM, stealing bases and using hit and run!

NickB

July 30th, 2011
12:12 am

I think Pence is a good player, however his home/away splits aren’t good Career OPS at home of .851, versus a .785 away….. If he was a CF’er I would agree the price was right. But his defense in CF wouldn’t be good and his bat as a corner OF’er is just avg away from minute maid park. Now his value in Philly is greater due to their bandbox…. at Turner Field, one would expect about an.800 OPS give or take ten points (.685 OPS career at Turner Field)

Brandon

July 30th, 2011
12:13 am

I agree with you that he is not a bum Justin….he has got enormous upside and I don’t think any of us thinks that he won’t be every bit as good as advertised, but he just isn’t hitting right now, and it seems Like people don’t want to sit him still, even if we goy quentin

Frank Wren

July 30th, 2011
12:16 am

Thought I would hop on real quick. Some one asked who we offered for Pence..Well, we felt that Pence’s five year avg of 25 Home Runs was a-flash-in-the-pan. John and I agreed that package of Scott Proctor, Diory Hernandez, Nate McLouth and one of our lower level pitching prospects should do the trick. Each time we talked to Ed, we made sure he was at a bar and drinking. Apparently, he left and decided to take the Phillies top two prospects instead. I told Ed, we could throw in a re-tooled Jo-Jo Reyes(we would re-sign him at a cut rate price) and even Todd Redmond who is lighting it up at AAA.

BravesFAN

July 30th, 2011
12:20 am

I will be completely ecstatic if the Braves can pick up Michael Bourn without giving up anything major other than Minor. I think not landing Pence will be a blessing in disguise down the road because giving up two of our top four pitchers right now would kill us in the future. JJ and Hanson are both Boras clients and I don’t see the Braves being able to keep both of them but I think they’ll be able to keep one. Lowe and Hudson are not getting any younger and will need these young minor league pitching studs that we have now very very soon. As far as Bourn goes he can hit over .300 avg this year, gets on base .354 OBP, he’s got amazing speed leading the NL in SB last 3 years, and he plays amazing defense in center. I really really really hope Bourn is the guy we land. He will get on base and he will be electric on the base paths for the braves. Imagine this in the 1st inning 1. Bourn draws a walk 2. Bourn steals second 3. Prado grounds out Bourn moves to 3rd 4. Chipper hits a sac fly Bourn scores…These are the kind of runs the Braves don’t ever score because they don’t have a leadoff man that consistently gets on base but when/if they make a trade for Bourn THEY WILL!!!! WREN MAKE IT HAPPEN GO GET BOURN HE WILL MAKE THIS TEAM BETTER…

Justin

July 30th, 2011
12:20 am

@Brandon He should absolutely sit if we are able to land Quentin. I’m big on trading for Quentin and his power and RBI numbers. He was set for a big payday from the White Sox, until he suffered a serious injury. It looks like he is back to form now and that would be a big time addition. Maybe an acquisition like that could spark Heyward, who knows. I’d like to have Quentin or Upton, but not a Ryan Ludwick or that type

Justin

July 30th, 2011
12:23 am

If we did get Michael Bourne, my dream 1st inning doesn’t involve ground outs or Sac flies….lol…The steals, yes…the outs, no

Thadsdad

July 30th, 2011
12:25 am

I told ya ol’ Eddie Wade would deliver Pence to the Phumblins. He even threw in $1 million so they wouldn’t go over the luxury tax.
What a guy.
As for the Phumblins giving up too much and mortgaging their future, I’m sure in 3 or 4 years, after they’ve collected their second and third WS rings in a 7 or 8-year span, those sad Philly fans will be crying in their soup that won’t be contending for a couple of seasons.
I have such pity for them.
Too much for Pence?
The Phumblins gave up a 19-year old first baseman, a 21-year old pitcher and another warm body. How’s that too much? These guys are called prospects because they haven’t done squat in the majors – and may never even reach them.
As for the Hall of Fame pitching quartet that the Frankster refused to even discuss in trade, I set the over/under for Teheran, Vizcaino, Delgado and Minor TOTAL major league win total at 50 (that’s between the four of them). And the almighty Mike (no better than a No. 4 or 5) Minor has four wins already.
Thanks Frank.
Now, get back to work, you don’t want that monster bat of Ryan Ludwick to slip through your fingers now, do you?

Fab-Five Fredi

July 30th, 2011
12:27 am

Quentin would be a better fit for the stretch run. Chipper will not be much of a factor. Prado will be at third. It would be sweet if Frank could completely overhaul the outfield and add Bourn as well..

Mister Frisky

July 30th, 2011
12:27 am

Bourn is a pipe dream.Get off the pipe.His name only appears on this blog nowhere else.

BravesFAN

July 30th, 2011
12:29 am

I dunno why people on here think all the Astros wanted was Minor, Simmons, and Bethancourt Ken Rosenthal says the Astros wanted 2 of the 4 out of Teheran, Vizciano, Delgado, and Minor plus some second tier guys. Wren made the best move and the smartest move for this organization. Had he given up Delgado or Minor or any combination of the 2 it would’ve definitely hurt us down the road a lot more than Pence would help for 2 years. If he’s able to pick up Bourn for say Minor, Simmons, Hoover or Spruill then I hope he pulls the trigger because personally I think we need a true leadoff more than we need another corner outfielder. I’d take Bourn over Quentin for the Braves everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. We don’t need another .250 power hitter that doesn’t play very good defense. Now what we could use is a excellent leadoff man that can hit for avg, get on base, steal bases, and play great defense in CENTER FIELD!!!! BOURN DOES ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND HE DOES THEM PRETTY GOOD!!!!

Joseph

July 30th, 2011
12:32 am

Thadsdad. All I can say is thank whatever being there is above that you are not in any way even making suggestions to the brain trust of this organization. NIce tirade though.

BravesFAN

July 30th, 2011
12:33 am

Mister Frisky – You clearly have NO IDEA what you’re talking about and haven’t even looked to see if his name has appeared on any insiders or baseball media guys twitter accounts or websites.

Take a look at this – The Braves are almost certain to land an outfielder before the deadline, reports Rosenthal. He cites the names you have been hearing for a while: B.J. Upton, Michael Bourn, Ryan Ludwick, Carlos Quentin, and Josh Willingham.
Bourn is on the Braves’ radar, tweets Crasnick. Padres right fielder Ludwick is “more down the list of options.” Would Astros GM Ed Wade deal another outfielder? He told reporters earlier tonight, “We’re going to be open-minded on all fronts. We’re going to be good listeners.”
The Braves are targeting a center fielder, tweets Yahoo’s Jeff Passan, though it doesn’t rule them out on corner guys.

Fab-Five Fredi

July 30th, 2011
12:33 am

Thadsdad-Spot on!! They are just BLOODY prospects and have done NOTHING in the Majors and there is no guarantee that they ever will. Good example. The infamous 2007 Trade the Braves made with the Rangers. Atlanta refused to give up this great prospect Jo-Jo Reyes and included some guy named Neftali Feliz instead..Ummmm that one worked out well..Jo-Jo has been to how many All-Star games with the Braves..Right now Jo-Jo is sitting in his living room hoping someone has a need for a LH pitcher with a lifetime ERA near 6.00…

Mister Frisky

July 30th, 2011
12:42 am

Ok BravesFan,Dinner on me at the varsity before Game 1 of the world series if your right.I hope I lose this bet.

BravesFAN

July 30th, 2011
12:45 am

Fab-Five Fredi – The Braves did end up giving them Elvis Andrus their SECOND best prospect in the organization at the time as well. Now he’s the Rangers starting SS batting .280 this year and already has stolen bases not to mention he’s played in an All Star game already. You’re right they definitely messed up big time by keeping Jo Jo and not Neftali. My point is Neftali wasn’t the piece that made that trade happen Elvis Andrus definitely was and he’s turned out to be a pretty darn good player that the Braves could DEFINITELY USE RIGHT NOW. We literally have the worst offensive SS in the majors right now I couldn’t imagine having Andrus right now instead of Agon so I can’t really blame the Braves for being reluctant to give up 2 of their 4 best pitching prospects especially when all 4 rank in the top 100 best prospects in all of baseball.

So Cal Brave

July 30th, 2011
12:45 am

The bad thing about having a deep farm system, is that the opposing teams want to rake it on trades. I’m sure that the Astros would’ve prefered to trade Pence to us, and I’m sure they threatened FW with trading him to the Phills if we didn’t give them what they wanted. So when we didn’t, they traded him to them.

Joseph

July 30th, 2011
12:46 am

Fab-five…..feliz holds the rookie record for the majors with saves. Some guy named Neftali Feliz? I think he is well known to people that actually know something about baseball sir.

Fab-Five Fredi

July 30th, 2011
12:50 am

BravesFan-Andrus at the time was not going to beat out Escobar and Salty was not going to beat out McCann. Who knew Yunel would not mature..At least in Atlanta.

Fab-Five Fredi

July 30th, 2011
12:54 am

Joseph-You need to re-read my text..You must be slow on the draw regarding sarcasm..No more Keystone Light’s for you tonight

Another Clueless Braves Blogger

July 30th, 2011
12:55 am

Glad Wren didn’t give Astros 2 top pitching prospects and another “highly regarded” young pitcher for Pence. We can win without him. No doubt Phillies are stronger with Pence.

NickB

July 30th, 2011
12:55 am

@thatsbad they gave up 2 of the top 25 prospects in baseball plus 2 other guys. That’s overpaying for a guy whose home/away splits this season are over .100. points different. Now the fact that the Phils play in a tiny park helps this some. But for the Braves to have traded Minor,Delgado,JJ Hooper and someone else would’ve been stupid. Pence would probably struggle to post an .800. OPS in 81 games at Turner field…. that’s the truth. Plus, we need a plus CF defender and Pence struggles on defense in RF

NickB

July 30th, 2011
12:56 am

hoover not hooper… damn typos and no edit function…..

Justin

July 30th, 2011
1:00 am

Trading prospects works both ways. Sure, there is no guarantee that they do anything, but they could also turn into very good players. Jo-Jo Reyes is a good example for the negative side of it, but a few years ago we traded our SS Edgar Renteria for 2 prospects, so that our own SS prospect could take over. Yunel Escobar was the shortstop, and the prospects we received in the trade were Gorkys Hernandez and Jair Jurjjens. The point is that it is a gamble, but the Braves didn’t want to send too many prospects for Pence….and that was the right move, IMO. Lowe and Hudson are gone after next year and the Boras clients are gonna be very expensive. We will have holes to fill in the rotation/bullpen and Teheran, Minor, Vizcaino and Delgado will all be major parts, thus we cannot give them all away for a good player. Hunter Pence is no Mark Teixiera

Joseph

July 30th, 2011
1:03 am

Fab-Five I don’t need to reread anything. And I make too much money to drink keystone sir.

Try looking at the big pitcher? Feliz holds the record for rookies with saves….no question……RECORD IS 40. Do you honestly think that if Feliz was still in the system that Kimbrel would be the closer today? Who would you rather have? Feliz or Kimbrel? Try looking at the big pitcher instead of a point you are trying to make whether it is sarcastic or not. Would your reall prefer Feliz over Kimbrel? Oh I admit that was last year so let me give the alternative……Feliz or Wagner? BIg pitcher thinking my friend.

rittmann

July 30th, 2011
1:04 am

Uggla’s second half is like making a trade and getting a new player- Wren/Gonzalez can’t be doing too bad of a job–Braves have the 4th Best record in MLB with all of their injuries!!. Heyward and Alex Gonzalez are Killing this team- They Suck. Don’t get Ludwick–Bourne, even though Left Handed, wouldn’t be bad- Quentin would be best-

Kimbrel rocks

July 30th, 2011
1:12 am

now that we know that the Astros wanted TWO of our top pitchers PLUS 2 other…..will some of you admit you were dead wrong to criticize frank wren? he was VERY SMART. braves fans would have been in an UPROAR if two of the big 4 had been traded for pence

Just Wanna Say

July 30th, 2011
1:13 am

I really want Bourn. I think him plus a cheaper Ludwick/Willingham would be good. I mean Quentin is fine obviously, but prefer the other.

Just Wanna Say

July 30th, 2011
1:13 am

totally agree Kimbrel

Another Clueless Braves Blogger

July 30th, 2011
1:14 am

Sure hope Pence delivers quickly or he’ll see how fast the fans in Philly turn on him. Pence is used to low expectations in Houston.

Kimbrel rocks

July 30th, 2011
1:14 am

do we even need another BIG right-handed bat if Uggla is heating up and returning to his normal self?

NickB

July 30th, 2011
1:15 am

Ludwick would not be a bad pickup IF he was just there as bench depth and to take some starts from Heyward against lefties (.777 OPS against RHP, .565 OPS against lefties) honestly, if Heyward only played against righties this year, he’d not have bad numbers at all. Not great, but decent for a young developing player.. But if Ludwick is it….. no, not good

Joseph

July 30th, 2011
1:16 am

Kimbrel……….no they will not…..they still think this team will finish last in the division because Fredi is stupid and Wren is a coward. Yet they call themselves fans. I used to be one of them until wife told me we were pregnant. I grew up 10 fold that second. It is sad Kimbrel but this is why this area is a “bad sports town” according to the national media. negative perspectives always.

Brett

July 30th, 2011
1:16 am

GET ROWAND from the Giants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NickB

July 30th, 2011
1:17 am

@Kimbrel, we really need an OBP guy in CF. I don’t think we NEED a Quentin type bat nearly as much as we need a high OBP guy with speed and good D. But if Quentin falls in our lap and splits time with Heyward as well as plays some LF when Chipper is out…. I wouldn’t complain

NickB

July 30th, 2011
1:18 am

I’ve noticed that the most supportive fans tend to be from out of state (like me) I’m amazed at how poor the turnout is in Atlanta for what is a very good and competitive team most years

Justin

July 30th, 2011
1:19 am

@Kimbrel rocks
totally agree, man. Frank Wren is a very good GM and is given very little credit for the moves that he has made.

billmaier

July 30th, 2011
1:19 am

ibelieve baseball tonight headline and boone’ss comments say it best– braves biggest losers— boone said it best the braves have a lof of top prospects in their system yet the miss out on beltran and now and pence and will regret not making the deal greatly– translation braves were stupid not to make a deal with all of the talent they have phils only gave up 3 a- ball players– braves had a lot more to offer than phils but refused to do so

Another Clueless Braves Blogger

July 30th, 2011
1:20 am

Kimbrel: With Uggla ripping the ball again, we are not in dire need of a big righty bat (we already have one). Wren has done a terrific job turning the Braves from losers into playoff contenders in just a few years. I am confident Wren will make the right move(s).

TruthSeeker

July 30th, 2011
1:21 am

Justin makes a good point. IMO, the Braves rotation of the future is Hanson, Teheran, Beachy, Medlen, and Delgado. I think Minor eventually gets dealt, and I’ve always gotten the impression that Viscaino is destined to be a late-inning power arm rather than a starter. But, however it shakes out, the Braves are going to need these young arms in the not-so-distant future.

The Braves obviously need to pick up a bat for the stretch run, and I think Wren will make that happen, but he could be setting himself up for a blockbuster deal this winter. Jurrjens and a top prospect could bring a serious bopper to Atlanta. Maybe a Matt Kemp.

Fab-Five Fredi

July 30th, 2011
1:25 am

Joseph-Settle down Francis…..This is not a debate of Feliz vs Kimbrel vs Wagner. the point of my message, Mr. I don’t re-read is that trading prospects is hit and miss. Trading Reyes would have been better than trading Feliz. The closer situation would have worked itself out. Splitting hairs between having Feliz as a closer vs Kimbrel. Braves had planned on Feliz being a starter..He appeared in 19 games in the Braves system and was a starter in 12 of those..

Another Clueless Braves Blogger

July 30th, 2011
1:25 am

Braves did not “miss out” on Beltran or Pence, they have a very smart GM who does not panic and give away the future for a 2 month rental with bad knees, or a very good (but not great) ball player. Unlike many naysayers, Wren actually knows what he’s doing.

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