3:43 pm July 28, 2011, by David O'Brien
July 28th, 20116:41 pm
Harsh, Really?, but I tend to agree with your main point.
I really dont see any point to continue. Any deal for that matter probably wont be done til late saturday or sunday afternoon.
Still interesting to read blogs from the General Public.
@jonmorosi: Source tells FOXSports.com it is now more likely than not that Hunter Pence will be dealt by Sunday. #Astros
P-Town Brave ©
I call BS….
If I cant find it ANYWHERE on Twitter, its just not true….
AK Braves Fan
July 28th, 20116:43 pm
Rafael FURCALLLLL, my favorite Brave when I was a kid. There’s a chance….. Right?
The A Bomb
Source tells FOXSports.com it is now more likely than not that Hunter Pence will be dealt by Sunday. #Astros
he is goin’…he ain’t goin’…he is again…interesting times
Plus no update from EPSN in the last 2 hours…
maybe its the quiet before the storm???
I wonder if the Dodgers would do Furcal for Gonzalez straight up. I would do it if I was Atlanta.
Eddie in bam
July 28th, 20116:44 pm
P-Town Brave © I’m sure it couldn’t have an effect on urgency of deal right, not something Fredi would need or care to know? My Bad
in other words …no trade tonight
I don’t think it’s an option per se, it’s just his final year of arbitration before he becomes a FA after the 2012 season
Phillies are making Pence as their priority
jonmorosi Jon Morosi
Sources say #Phillies and #Braves are on Pence, #Indians still involved. Chances of deal better than 50/50. #Astros
Pence and Quentin are both everyday starters. So I assume that any thought of trading for these guys means putting Heyward on the bench, or even sending him to AAA. That may not be a bad idea given his struggles this year. Remember he is only 22, so it’s not like we would be giving up on him completely.
Inside trading is illegal…and full of shyt
July 28th, 20116:45 pm
Well, I can’t get the game where I live, so I’m off to continue watching “The Pacific.” Will check in later to see if there’s any news.
July 28th, 20116:46 pm
Matsui form Oakland
I think we would sign Pence long term is we got him in Atlanta.
Kind of like we did with Tex right?
I also want to ask you who told you that you know hitting? Nolee hit the nail on the head with what he said about Heyward’s swing and the only one looking like an idiot right now is you.
no way Wren would ever have Furcal back, and he stinks as bad as Gonzo this year too
Najeh has been going hard at Gonzo and deservingly so.
Who is his comparison on the Hawks? Josh Powell?
I may be entirely in the wrong here, but it seems like if we got Quentin, J-Hey is more than capable to play center while Schafer is down. He is an incredible athlete and probably played center growing up.
I wouldn’t trade Gonzo for Furcal. Gonzo plays better D and beats him in pretty much every major statistical category this year. Gonzo’s bad, but not that bad…
July 28th, 20116:47 pm
Seattle Braves … Was that standard approved by NIST? <g>
Here’s a story on “The Mendoza Line.” Sounds like it’s pretty fluid to me.
Conyers Braves Fan
Inside Guy is just trying to get attention and responses.
A lot of bloggers are great pretenders.
July 28th, 20116:48 pm
I expect that Heyward will come around, but the Braves have to do something about hitting, or they will be on the golf course in Oct.
blog is hopping tonight. What is the record for # of posts in 3 hours of posting blog all before gametime?
I think what’s more interesting is that DOB has gone silent for almost an hour right before game time. It seems like normally he has some type of blog post or tweet when it’s this close to first pitch. Makes me think he’s busting his tail to get us the scoop on a trade.
July 28th, 20116:49 pm
DOB! DOB! DOB! DOB!
Sources say Phillies and Braves are on Pence, Indians still involved. Chances of deal better than 50/50. Astros
J-Hey is more than capable to play center while Schafer is down…..CH
for whatever reason they keep saying that they will not play him there in anything other than a short-term emergency.
Heyward going deep tonight…mark it down
July 28th, 20116:50 pm
I’m sure DOB is walking with purpose.
Looks like with Pence and Quentin, we’ll get one and the Phils will get the other. i don’t know how the Phils step up their offer without giving up the entire farm for Pence…
I wouldn’t trade Gonzo for Furcal
July 28th, 20116:51 pm
DAM – DOB always is busting his tail
I wouldn’t trade Julio Lugo for Furcal
walking with porpoises? wouldn’t it more likely be swimming with them?
Dang Phillies trying to drive the price up…don’t bit on that Wren…Matsui from Oakland
July 28th, 20116:52 pm
I haven’t looked up Pence’s numbers but my impression of him when he played us is that he always seemed to pester us. Maybe I’m wrong,but steal a base, get a hit, make a catch, he did whatever it took. Remember alot of tough AB’s.
July 28th, 20116:53 pm
Phillies will get Pence.Braves will get Ludbag or Willingcrap.The more things change the more they stay the same.The Braves will continue to be the Phillies girlfriend.
Matsui? Get real. Typical DH/Old LF
It’s actually comical to watch these “insider guys” contradict themselves about 3 times a day each! Pence is sure to be traded. Pence will definitely not be traded. Pence might be traded. No, wait, Pence will definitely not be traded. This just in, 5 teams are “hot” on Pence. Pence might be traded tonight. Just heard from reliable source Pence won’t be moved by July 31. No, now Pence is definitely on the move. It now appears there’s a 50/50 chance that Pence will be traded. Sources now say that Houston has traded Pence to itself for 3 top prospects. There, think that about covers it.
Of course, I remember Quentin and about 3-4 HR’s in a 3 game series against us.
Yeah, I knew that would sail over everybody’s heads.
July 28th, 20116:54 pm
noleee – what the hell are you talking about?
how about the Patriots?
The Phils need a bat almost as badly as we do, although Utley is regaining form. They want Pence, so let them trade their future for him. We’ll take Quentin + reliever for much less, thank you very much.
July 28th, 20116:55 pm
brian — agreed. Great blog.
Agreed. I am a Falcon and Patriots fan and Patriots made some good moves
huh, Thats last night lets see how they do the rest of the season and should I even mention playoffs.
furcal used the braves to get a better contract with the dodgers. he told us was coming and they sent the paper work only to have his agent turn around and show it to the dodgers to get a salary base to keep him there.
If I not mistaken, this is when Wren became ultra covert about trades too.
Phillies are just toying with us. They know they can block/outbid us for anyone if they feel like it. Kinda funny.
July 28th, 20116:56 pm
According to Fangraphs.com Quentin has been BELOW replacement level for an outfielder in both 2009 and 2010. His stone glove is part if it; last year he was the worst outfielder in the majors.
Unless Hayward is injured and has no shot of playing the rest of the year, I say pass on Quentin.
May the Phillies get mounted by rabid dogs!
July 28th, 20116:57 pm
Patriots are the Philadelphia Phillies of football. Every move they make, improves them.
Willingham wouldn’t be a Ludwick bad pickup. His career numbers are much better than Ludwicks. Plus , for some reason, the entire A’s squad is hitting horribly this season. I’m not saying he’s my first choice, but if we can’t work a deal for Quentin or Pence, I wouldn’t be horribly let down by Willingham. The guy can hit. Put him on a team with a purpose and he’d get the job done…. Not much with the glove however………..
I submit for your review:
Heyward could play center field, if need be
7:33 pm July 28, 2010, by Carroll Rogers
“Jason could go there,” Wren said. “There’s a variety of people who could play center field if we get in a pinch.”
Heyward, who’s played nothing but right field this season, said he’d have no problem playing some center field.
“Center field is the first outfield position I ever played,” said Heyward who played first base until age 10.
Heyward said he played 20 games in center field last year in the minors.
July 28th, 20116:58 pm
DonDraper? IIRC DOB oughta love that name
Wouldn’t trade Gonzo for Furcal? Are you kidding me? Furcal’s stats are completely skewed by his injuries this year. He’s now healthy and is 8 for his last 17, with 2 steals in 2 attempts. He’d be an improvement at leadoff, and at shortstop. When Schafer comes back Fredi can move one of the two to the 8-hole. It’d be a no-brainer trade. Alex Gonzalez is one of the worst hitters in the ML. He’s gone once he gets two strikes on him; he’ll swing at anything in that situation. His attitude drives me crazy too. FURCALLLLL BABY
Wikipedia “Mendoza Line”
here you will see the entire meaning of the phrase or expression used to rate hitting. It started as a joke…
Im a Dolphin fan, I hate the Patriots because they’re always good. I hate the Jets way more because they are the Jets.
They know they can block/outbid us for anyone if they feel like it.
Only when it comes to free agents. If we so decided we could certainly top any offer of theirs involving prospects.
July 28th, 20116:59 pm
craZy, thanks for the answer.
Dolphins usually beat the Patriots. I find that refreshing.
BFchris, same here. Pats offense is going to be lethal
Unless Hayward is injured and has no shot of playing the rest of the year, I say pass on Quentin. DonDraper
I’ll pass this on to Wren. I’m sure he’ll go with the advice of a fictional TV character over his scouts. Good work, Don.
July 28th, 20117:00 pm
and I submit for your review any number of DOB posts saying that they will not play him there regularly , at least one of which was not all that long ago.
Look, the phillies don’t have as much depth on the farm as the Braves do. IF they want to blow up their farm system to get Pence, let em. In 3 years we will be celebrating our 3rd straight division crown while they are trying desperately to dump all those aging monster contracts for any young talent they can get. They seem to be on the EXACT same track that the Yankees were on in the 2000’s ,lots of high profile ,aging players , huge payrolls and not many trophies to show for it…..
Freeman making a serious case for ROY. If season ended today, I’d guess:
Any news from the trade front?
Philly press reporting that Amaro may now be willing to consider including Domonic Brown in deal for Pence or Quentin. Given their aggressive track record at the deadline, it will be a shock if the Phillies don’t do something big to position themselves for October. Pressure is on Braves to match what the Giants did yesterday…since Braves/Giants seem almost certain to meet in October for the right to play the Phillies in NLCS…
July 28th, 20117:01 pm
seattle brave, really? The Patriots curb stomped them both times last year
July 28th, 20117:02 pm
Yeah, Danga, When it comes to trades we have more prospects than anyone else in the majors.
Oh yeah…. Lowe’s pitching tonight.
John's Creek Fan
Hear me out… I dont think the braves really need that “power” bat everyone thinks they do. I really think we need some sort of catalyst at the top. I am relly rooting for jordan Schafer but I’m sorry, having a .290 OBP is not gonna cut it. Thats why I’m interested in Dexter Fowler. Since his demotion in June, He has batted over .350 and his OBP is almost .400. ON top of that, he is from the Atlanta area and he switch hits. oh, and he may be the fastest man in the national league not named Reyes (or Daniel McCutchen for that matter). I was on a Rockies blog earlier this week and on of their writers hinted that Fowler may be moved in the coming week due to an increase in value with his recent performance. I don’t know what it could take to get Fowler but I would really love to pursue that option. If not, get Pence or Quentin and place them in RF, send Heyward to Gwinnett and let him work his swing out while taking reps in Center. Yes, Center. He’s the only viable option until Schafer gets back. Heck, Throw Huddy out there. Unless you want Lugo out there but I’d rather see him at short for the anemic A-Gon
July 28th, 20117:03 pm
Braves frontrunners for Quentin and it looks like the Sox are ready to deal. Don’t be surprised if a deal is confirmed within the hour.
July 28th, 20117:04 pm
July 28th, 2011
Patriots are the Philadelphia Phillies of football. Every move they make, improves them.
except possibly in the case of Haynesworth – sorry, what i saw with the skins last year was a selfish head case that hates the 3-4 and quit on many plays. no heart. the pats play a 3-4. maybe he can adopt an unselfish attitude with the pats.
Correia’s also pitching tonight.
July 28th, 20117:05 pm
We shud score runs tonight
Among scouts/execs seems momentum now #Whitesox Quentin will be dealt and team I hear as frontrunner most is #Braves
Yes in the past we have played the Pats tough, but last year was pretty atrocious. I am just expecting the same ol’ 7-9 or 8-8 outta the Phins, with a win over the stupid Jets on New years when I go. But enough about that, football season really doesn’t start until November, so LET’S GO BRAVES!!
Just because we get Quentin doesn’t mean we can’t get an average leadoff man in CF. Prado will be at 3rd for the rest of the year, so we’ll have room in the OF.
Nick n Richmond
July 28th, 20117:06 pm
Braves lighting up MLB trade rumors….I would go with Quentin as the more likely to ATL
Nova Scotia Steve
According to twitter the #braves will be acquiring the entire AL central.
Brave New World
July 28th, 2011
DOB: Thanks for the stats on Heyward. Didn’t Bobby Cox and Pendleton have an issue with Heyward about being more aggressive at the plate?
J-Hey was masterful at waiting for the right pitch to drive early last year, and his on base percentage with walks was impressive. It seems ever since his approach at the plate was tampered with, he has not been the same hitter. Your thoughts?
I agree with this astute observation. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Heywards stance, it is the fact that he is swinging at stuff out of the strike zone unlike last year. The Braves want Heyward to be the savior and put unnecessary pressure on him to swing more freely and that killed his approach. I repeat it does not matter what type of stance you have if you make the pitchers through you strikes you will when it a high rate. That’s what Jason was doing before Cox’s and Chipper wanted Heyward to hit them enough HR’s to improve there shaky legacies and not winning enough world series titles in all those tries. Honestly, I would love to see Heyward and Josh Smith both traded away from ATL so they don’t have to take the blame while other players are treated and payed like God’s for nothing special. Heyward makes $500,000, Nate, Gonzo, Uggla all make atleast 10x’s what Jason makes and people come to this site on the daily to bash him. Jason is earning his money, Nate, Gonzo, and Uggla are not.
If the team is going to contend for the remainder of this year, something in the order of this trade must happen, and a trade is a two-sided transaction (in most instances, this time of year). You have to give, to get. If a fool was on the other side of this deal, it would have occurred a month ago. My thinking is the 3B and 3 OF positions will be mix and match, according to who is hot and who is healthy. The hope would be more RH bats would be in the lineup against lefties, but I hope Fredi isn’t overly dogmatic about that. Managing this lineup into the post season will require some inspired instinct, as less has gone as predicted at the beginning of the season as any Braves team since 1991.
July 28th, 20117:07 pm
I was in the Navy, and it is called Hate Week.
That’s HATE week, not Hell week.
OK, I’m ready for some ‘ball. Let’s do this.
Tryin’ to catch up before gametime. Looks like we need to add udder moran to <your and idiot etc. as another DOB bloggism.
Heyward sucks in right field. I can only imagine how crappy he would be in center. I hope he is the future for the Braves but right now he sux. If he didn’t e wouldn’t be aving this discussion. Send him down and serve some humble pie to the kid. It will do him some good. He can come back next year with a chip on his shoulder and perhaps some motivation. Get us an outfielder and a RH bullpenner and take our chances.
July 28th, 20117:08 pm
Dr.Phil you will win a daytime Emmy before Heyward comes around.
July 28th, 20117:09 pm
superiorblogman – Really? Superior to whom?
Costas using the play at home plate two nights ago to pan for instant replay.
Just in: Shafer and Chipper are out of the lineup. Looks like they might be on the move…
July 28th, 20117:10 pm
Enter y•The Braves are “desperate” for an outfield bat, but Quentin may cost multiple top prospects, according to Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com.our comments here
Good for her! Wish I could’ve heard her sing the anthem.
Man I want Pence instead of Quentin… If we get Quentin, Phillies will do whatever in their power to get Pence from Astros.
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