Video: Braves’ needs at trade deadline

CineSport’s Brian Clark and the AJC’s David O’Brien discuss the Braves’ needs ahead of Sunday’s trade deadline, and GM Frank Wren’s tight-lipped approach.


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appledawg

July 25th, 2011
1:25 pm

shivert

July 25th, 2011
1:27 pm

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Komminsk

July 25th, 2011
1:28 pm

I’d like to see Prado take a stab at playing shortstop. This will give Gonzo a break and hopefully Prado plays well there. If he does, then it really upgrades our lineup. The extra errors we would get at SS would be offset by the offensive upgrade. Couple this with a blockbuster trade with Houston for Pence and Bourn for Minor and Schafer/Constanza and our lineup suddenly looks unstoppable.

1. Bourn CF
2. Prado SS
3. Pence LF (played well there at the ASG)
4. McCann C
5. Freeman 1B
6. Chipper 3B
7. Uggla 2B
8. Heyward RF

Andre "Pulpwood" Smith

July 25th, 2011
1:30 pm

Enjoyed the video, DOB, but I was distracted by the posters on the ceiling. Are you in a dentist’s office?

Sean

July 25th, 2011
1:30 pm

Komminsk…no way man, no way. Quit dreaming. The Astros will NEVER do that…and quite frankly, neither will the Braves.

Bream is Safe!!!

July 25th, 2011
1:34 pm

Holding onto our pitching prospects is extremely important. If we can trade Lowe i say we do it. This will free up money to spend over the winter. I would trade Minor and Schafer for Hunter Pence and try to sign him to a deal. He could be our leadoff CF. With McOuts salary coming off the books and assuming this is Chips last year we could look for a 3rd baseman. If we have an opportunity to trade Minor for Beltran i say we do it. I’m not a fan of trading for rental players but i believe Beltran could put us over the top and be able to compete with the AL team in the Series. Bullpen help is also needed. I think the Braves can win now with Beltran. We have so much pitching i don’t think there is room for Minor. Remember Medlen will be back, if not this season, next.

Komminsk

July 25th, 2011
1:34 pm

I don’t understand why the Braves are reluctant to trade Minor. Here are the potential starters we have (in no particular order) for the next 2 years .This is better than any other team in the league.

1. Hudson
2. Jurrjens
3. Hanson
4. Lowe
5. Beachy
6. Minor
7. Medlen
8. Teheran
9. Delgado
10. Vizcaino

Bream is Safe!!!

July 25th, 2011
1:38 pm

Komminsk you are a moron. You think the Stros are going to trade Pence and Bourn for Minor and Schafer?? They wouldn’t trade Pence for Minor, Schafter and Constanza.

Jim

July 25th, 2011
1:40 pm

Please DFA PROCTOR

John

July 25th, 2011
1:43 pm

I think we should at least make a push at both of them. try to throw Lowe in there too. I hate him. If we cant get either one of them, i think Upton is out next best bet.

Greg Norton

July 25th, 2011
1:44 pm

Why can’t them get on base?? Pitiful.

Brandon

July 25th, 2011
1:44 pm

Braves would have to give up minor and schafer for pence alone. it would take 2 pitching prospects, schafer, and another prospect to get bourne and pence. neither team would ever do that. my gut feeling on this is we are going to prob not get that big bat that we really need in this offense. frustrating, but i just don’t see it. it will be hard down the stretch with only 2 guys hitting over .250.

Komminsk

July 25th, 2011
1:46 pm

Bream,
Astros are dumping salaries. We could include a couple other prospects in the trade. I’m just giving the main ingredients.

Regardless, you are wrong if you think they wouldn’t take Minor, Schafer and Constanza for Pence.

JC Boscan III

July 25th, 2011
1:53 pm

What really would be cool is if Komminsk and Bream is Safe!!! are actually the same person. Would make the above posts a lot more entertaining!

For the future, one way we might avoid the back-end bullpen collapses is to keep all 10 starters listed above and use 2 per game. Then, use O’MoyVentrell as the 4-headed closing machine! With 14 pitchers, if Prado can then play SS and 3rd simultaneously, we don’t need the extra roster spots for infielders. This has a greater likelihood of happening than getting Michael Bourn in a trade while only giving up Minor and Schafer. As Forest Gump might have said, “That’s all I got-ta saaay ’bout thaaatt.”

Jeff Childress

July 25th, 2011
2:05 pm

My first reccomendation would be to let go of Proctor and Linebrink and bring Teheran and Delgado up to pitch mid to late innings to get experience (better than the braves experience lately of getting walked off on) Then wren could look for a “power” right handed bat for little to nothing and keep as many top prospects as possible. Francoeur is cheaper in left than Nate with more power and bats right ! Beltran, Colby Rasmus, Ludwick, Pence.

Another option would be michal bourne in center shafer to left, move Nate to get a veteran Arm in the Pen and have more payroll freed up!

cardvol

July 25th, 2011
2:06 pm

Name another team that will take McLouth?

BFC

July 25th, 2011
2:07 pm

who would you say are our most probable future starting left handers, in the minors, Dave ?

alex

July 25th, 2011
2:10 pm

Nice to mention Mclouth trade….. Where’s lee,glaus,uggla(!),proctor(?),anderson,ankeil,the list goes on and on and on ando and then there’s KK….

Total Grace

July 25th, 2011
2:26 pm

Why is no one talking about KK in a trade deal? He’s not gonna pitch for us anymore this year, right?

KEEP MIKE MINOR

July 25th, 2011
2:28 pm

minor needs to stay a brave. bullpen help ASAP

KEEP MIKE MINOR

July 25th, 2011
2:29 pm

the longer we wait on bullpen help, the more likely we don’t even win the wildcard

bruce mac

July 25th, 2011
2:32 pm

Kominsk, if they would we should.

Ronald Millsaps

July 25th, 2011
2:34 pm

Call Teheran and Asconio up for bullpen help. If a trade is made, acquire B.J. Upton over Carlos Beltran, perhaps, and START PLAYING SMARTER OFFENSIVELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One would think that a team with this rotation and bullpen would have an even-better record. Yeah, the record’s good, but it should be better. Losing games like the one last night is pretty blamed bad. You’d think there’d be more emphasis on getting runs on the board. Barry Larkin commented last night that Jason Heyward needs to make an adjustment with his swing. One has to wonder why he apparently isn’t hearing this statement from his team.

Mike from the coast

July 25th, 2011
2:36 pm

DOB posed this question Saturday. What are the long term consequences of bringing up pitching prospects from the minors. As I stated then, I know a lot of teams like to shut down many top prospects after so many minor league innings. For instance can we bring up Vizcaino or Delgado to shore up the pen? Would this take a year off the back end as far as controlling free agency. Does it make them arb eligible a year earlier?

KEEP MIKE MINOR

July 25th, 2011
2:47 pm

jason heyard needs to go back to Rome and start all the way over. just horrible. him in the 2 spot? REALLY?????

Chipper Wisdom

July 25th, 2011
2:48 pm

This team needs two small additions. A mid-level RH bullpen arm, to fortify Kimbrel and Linebrink and a RH offensive threat on the bench that can play an posistion. Any talk of Pence, Beltran, Upton… etc is beyond reason at this point. We are obviously happy with our wealth of pitching. Not every prospect pans out, so we want to continue to see these arms development before shipping anyone out of town.

Notice the world champs last year added a guy like Cody Ross. He made a huge difference down the stretch. Similarly the Braves should target a player like Josh Willingham, Ty Wiggington or Marlon Byrd. Even these guys might take a significant package to aquire, but we should be able to hold on to our top 4 minor league pitchers.

Final thought. NO ONE WANTS KK OR NATE. You don’t trade trash for gold, GM’s aren’t like your uncle Tony in your fantasy league.

alex

July 25th, 2011
3:02 pm

@ chipper wisdom:is uncle tony the same as frank wrenn?

Playing for wild card

July 25th, 2011
3:08 pm

Phillies are disgustingly on fire.
Braves are doing great just to keep pace and should be congratulated. Bad luck for being in division with Phillies.
MLB needs to reward wild card with home field if playing team with worse record. That way a division winner that blows away his division has to keep playing for something if they realize wild card will have better record.
Better yet, eliminate all divisions and take top 4 teams from each league and seed accordingly.

Bartles & James

July 25th, 2011
3:10 pm

We thank you for your support.

Mark (another one)

July 25th, 2011
3:10 pm

I think the power right handed bat in the future of the Braves bench is … Hinske. WIth Chipper at third, Freeman at 1st, Prado in left and Heyward in right, Hinske gets to be that right handed power off the bench. I don’t see the Braves getting a right handed power hitter without giving up too much.

As for the bullpen, I would look to one of those minor league phenoms to move into a bullpen slot and not cost us anything except accelerating their arbitration clock.

Sometimes the best moves are internal. I am not saying Wren won’t make a move. I just don’t see us giving up the value required to gain a star for either role.

poop

July 25th, 2011
3:17 pm

I think it’s a little late in Hinske’s career to switch to being a right handed batter…

Komminsk

July 25th, 2011
3:21 pm

The Braves have never been good at producing talented hitters in their farm system.

Martin Prado is the only player I can think of over the past 10 years who developed in the Braves farm system and developed into something special. Everyone else (Freeman, Chipper, McCann, etc..) leans heavily on external advice from their personal hitting coaches (their fathers).

We need the realize our strength (developing and identifying pitching prospects) and trade for our deficiencies (developing professional hitters). Our lack of offense has been a problem for a long time and is often masked by our strong pitching. We need to address this issue with our current team and also look long term at why we can’t produce offensive talent through our farm system.

PDOG

July 25th, 2011
3:23 pm

Braves would be foolish to make a major deal. I agree with DOB that bullpen is major need right now. My believe is that Braves should call up Tehran and Vizcaniao since they are going to limit there innings anyway. If they won’t do that then I think they should target Izzy from the Mets, he is available and will not cost them a top prospect.
As for there other needs my hope again is nothing major, I would like to see them go after Infante or Bonafacio from the Marlins.

alex

July 25th, 2011
3:25 pm

Warning : there will be NO bobble heads of chipper at thurs. game< they are on the DL

new scenery

July 25th, 2011
3:30 pm

BJ UPTON!!!!!

Ed

July 25th, 2011
3:31 pm

OK. The real solution. Keep all current players. Make no trades. Hire new hitting, pitching coaches and name Pendleton as manager. Do it today. Now. Immediately.

Joey

July 25th, 2011
3:41 pm

Maybe we should hire a hitting coach that somebody, or ANYBODY listens to!

billmaier

July 25th, 2011
3:41 pm

frank wren-
q– frank what are the teams needs as we near the tradeline–
a- we dont really see any major holes– you know chipper is coming back and it willbe the first time in a long time since we will have all our starters and the bullpen is shaping up—that was just bad luck by linebrink last night– and proctor has just been running into some bad luck– both are pitching great–
q- but frank what about your entire outfiled is hitting 230 or less
a- again just some bad luck– hitting the ball hard right at someone- and you know jason is coming around-and like freddi said schafer is doing much better than the b.a and obp looks–
we would like to have another right handed bat in the lineup– but you know we are not going to give up a lot to get one. we have 10 starting pitchers over the next two years and you can never have enough starters we just dont need to give any up right now
q- what about the bullpen seems like if we pitch anyone else than kimbrel, venter, oflaherty– we are losing-
a–you know we would like to pick up another reliever like i did with farnsy last year- but i belive proctor, sherril, martinez and linebrink can get the job done we are llooking but just not a lot available right now
q- frank how would you rate yourself on overall job youve done since you took over as g.m
a- i think ive done quite well– just look at what ive brought in the last few years– i belive it speaks for itself– linebrink, proctor, sherrill, garret anderson, greg norton, troy glaus, rick ankiel, farnsy, mclouth, gonzo,uggla– just look at how well they have all done– that alone should tell you ive done a great job

Joey

July 25th, 2011
3:42 pm

I’m glad Fredi doesn’t have a rule that if any player hits under .230, they have to sit . . .

oldmike

July 25th, 2011
4:00 pm

I know that Gonzalez brings a whole lot to the table in the field but he is an absolute rally killer at the plate. He has done less than nothing. Maybe they can rest him some and play Hicks? And Heyward looks so lost up at the plate. Liked Valentine’s comment last night about him having a “T” based swing. I assume he means really level and upright? Where is the guy who drove the ball the opposite way last year? They need to make a really big splash at deadline to energize the team and fan base. Rent Beltran. He adds so much to the line up. He’d make everyone better. But this is the Liberty Media version of the Braves so good luck.

NickB

July 25th, 2011
4:05 pm

@billmaier – you try bringing in quality players on the 18th highest payroll in the game without trading away all your prospects…..

Oregon Brave

July 25th, 2011
4:06 pm

The Mariners! Seattle has been a semi minor league affiliate of the Braves the past few years and with this 15 game losing streak, they are definitely sellers. Not sure the Braves have anything to give for an arm tho. The Mariners need hitters, and at this time, I don’t believe FW has any potential hitters down on the farm to work with, but he is smarter than most and will get a bullpen arm by Sunday. I Hope. Go Braves.

billmaier

July 25th, 2011
4:10 pm

maybe what wren is planning on over the next several years is to revolutionize baseball go with a 13 man pitching staff with 10 starters and 3 relievers— next year lowe. hudson, hanson, jj, beachy, minor, teheran, delgado, viziciano and medlin-{-pitches much better as a starter than a reliever- check the stats braves were 10-1 when he started} then have venter, kimbrel, and oflahery in relief– each starte has 10 days between starts and could fill in from the bullpen between the starts– then when lowe is gone in 201 either obelholtzer, hoover, gilamartin might be ready and we could keep are 10 man pitching staff– brilliant mr wren just figured out what you are doing that is why we are reluctant to trade minor for a bat– no more horrible relivers like proctor, linebrink, martinez– with 10 starters pitching also in relief we willbe great– great idea dont trade any pitching for any bats– we can us oyur 10 starters also in relief

billmaier

July 25th, 2011
4:12 pm

nick b- i thought that several teams were just asking for minor?

Bartles & James

July 25th, 2011
4:45 pm

Liberty Mutual is an evil, evil company with evil employees…..wouldn’t pay a $100 repair claim from damaged caused by one of their pitiful customers.
Not even worth me paying to go to small claims, but they should have repaired.
Stay away from anything Liberty Mutual.
We thank you for your support….

Jeff Childress

July 25th, 2011
4:50 pm

Last year the Phillies made a move to make sure they made themselves division favorites and winners by the Cliff Lee deal. They are in hot pursuit of Beltran or another big bat ! It looks as if Philly is playing for “this” year’s pennant as the Braves are very timid to make the move for “this” year. If Philly doesn’t want to rent Beltran we do! and Philly will end up having to pitch to him in Atlanta

angry braves fan

July 25th, 2011
4:53 pm

what the hell is happens with fredi gonzalez????? FU@!!**#%&CK

why fredi still send linebrink and proctor to the mound in a-head,close and tie games ????

why call up martinez and no try with teheran in the bullpen????

why no DFA proctor right now and only use linebrink in blow games or like last option????

i think the braves need to focus the mind in trade for a good reliever (Bell,League,Adams) and help the middle relief

and yes upton or rasmus is better option than beltran in long term (but rasmus is left :S) but in short term beltran maybe is the answer for the offense problems put in RF and send Heyward back to AAA or the bench

The Braves made a huge mystake with Heyward all people know what i talking about

HEYWARD NEVER PLAY A COMPLETE SEASON IN AAA

AND FREDDIE FREEMAN DO!!! THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN J-HEY AND FREEMAN

SEND HEYWARD TO AAA AT LEAST THE REST OF JULY AND ALL AUGUST AND PUT BELTRAN IN RF

MAYBE IN SEPTEMBER HEYWARD CAN SURPRISE ALL FANS IN ATLANTA LIKE FIRST MONTHS IN 2010 SEASON ;)

GO FOR ONE RELIEVER AND BELTRAN
AND DFA PROCTOR!!!!!!!

GO BRAVES AND FU@!!#?%&$CK U MO#@!!%&$THER SYPHYLLIES HAHAHAHAH

LETS GOO BRAVES :)

Tampa Gator

July 25th, 2011
5:40 pm

No way you give up a future NL starter for a 2-month rental…..please don’t. Example: Tex trade. Who would love to have Andrus at SS and Feliz in the bullpen right now?

Tampa Gator

July 25th, 2011
5:43 pm

Also…..Linebrink’s pitch last night was low and out on the corner….to stat an inning. A good pitch. The hitter just guessed well and got good wood on the ball. Normally, that is a call strike one in that situation. Linebrink has simply been used too much lately…and will wear down due to age. Proctor has no consistency with his pitches. Makes a great pitch and then throws the next one right down the middle….and he no longer throws 97 MPH…PROBLEM.

Chipper Wisdom

July 25th, 2011
5:48 pm

The Braves are owned by Liberty Media, not Liberty Mutual.

It’s easy to grade a GM based on 20/20 hindsight. You can list moves aquisitions like McLouth, Proctor, Garret Anderson etc.

I’ll list aquisitions like O’Flaherty, Wagner, Hinske

Also I would consider Glaus, Farnsworth, and Ankiel to be a wash. Neither positive nor negative, although one could make a case that Glaus was a major reason we returned to the playoffs last year.

Also, the jury is still out on the Uggla move. I sure do like the way he is swinging right now. Oh, and he leads the team in HR’s and Runs…

So whose to say whether Beltran, Upton etc would be a good or bad move?

Come on Dave

July 25th, 2011
6:46 pm

DOB looks like he just did a rail in the beginning.

Don Green

July 25th, 2011
6:51 pm

I would not give up the prospects it would take to get Beltran, Pence , or Upton unless you could steal them without giving up any top prospects. Vs lefties, Beltran is only hitting .232. Upton .226, and Pence at .276. Really not all that much help where we need it.

Get a checap guy that crushes lefties like Jason Bourgois (.395), Reed Johnson (.356), Carlos Lee (.357), Juan Rivera (.348), Michael Cuddyer (.344), Jonny Gomes (.333), Corey Maybin (.328), Aaron Rowand (.317)Alphonso Soriano (.306). Ryan Ludwick is only at .276.

Don Green

July 25th, 2011
6:57 pm

Even though he is a right handed hitter, Josh Willingham is horrible against lefties this year, hitting only .218. Hope we don’t go that route.

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