Lowe acknowledges trade possibility
(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)
Derek Lowe was convinced the Braves were about to trade him two winters ago, and it didn’t happen. The Braves traded Javier Vazquez instead. Now that his name has resurfaced in trade speculation, he’s not as fazed.
Lowe had a little fun with a Saturday report that his native Detroit Tigers had expressed interested in trading for him.
“Detroit,” said Lowe, the Dearborn, MI native, he announced to teammates when he arrived in the Braves clubhouse, drawing some mock applause. “Hey, I’m going to the American League.”
Could Lowe be at a crossroads?
He makes light, but that’s probably just because he’s a 38-year-old veteran who’s played for four different organizations, with the Mariners, Red Sox, Dodgers and Braves.
“It’s this time of year,” Lowe said. “There’s a lot of people’s names get thrown around….You have no say so. Why stress over something that you have no control over?”
Logically, though, he understands why his name is among them now.
“People say we may need a hitter and we have a lot of pitching and I make money,” Lowe said. “So it’s kind of obvious why you’re named. And we have a lot of good young pitchers.”
The Braves are listening, but any talks are in the early stages and no offers have been made for Lowe yet, according to a person familiar with the situation.
The Braves could trade Lowe and clear salary to pursue a big-name hitter, and insert Mike Minor or Julio Teheran into the rotation.
Trading Lowe this time around might be a little more likely, if not at the July 31 deadline, then maybe in the offseason. When the Braves last tried to trade him, he was still owed $45 million over three years. Now he’s owed approximately $6 million the remainder of this season and $15 million next.
What makes Lowe valuable to potential suitors and what the Braves would be giving up if a deal is made, is his reputation as a big-game pitcher. Lowe went 5-0 with a 1.17 ERA last September for the Braves, and was their Game 1 starter for the Division Series against the Giants.
This and that
It was family day here this morning at Turner Field where players are invited to bring their families onto the field. Always fun to see little folks running around, like Cooper Proctor, one of Scott Proctor’s four children, all of whom he had in tow.
Cooper asked David Ross if he could put on his catcher’s mask. Sure enough Ross complied and the 3-year-old Proctor got to wear the hockey style catcher’s make and crouch down for a photo. Cute stuff.
And speaking of families, reliever Jonny Venters told me this morning his wife Viviana is expecting their first child in November. They are having a boy. It’s been a big year for Venters, first-time All-Star and soon-to-be father. Congrats.
Wedding dress guy….Oh I know we’re not supposed to give this guy pub for jumping out on the field last night. But I’m sure he’s paying the price. A photographer here heard he might have to wait until Monday for his bail hearing, so….Just for those who weren’t here last night to see, I’ll post a photo.
Not exactly wedded bliss at The Ted Saturday night
OK running behind and want to post this before the game. Jair Jurrjens going today, looking for his 13th win of the year, just two shy of his career high.
LINEUP
For the second straight day, Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez wanted to get another right-hander in against lefty Tom Gorzelanny, so he started Wilkin Ramirez in place of Jason Heyward in right field. Nate McLouth sat on Saturday night. Nothing wrong with Heyward.
1. Jordan Schafer CF
2. Martin Prado 3B
3. Brian McCann C
4. Freddie Freeman 1B
5. Dan Uggla 2B
6. Alex Gonzalez SS
7. Nate McLouth LF
8. Wilkin Ramirez RF
9. Jair Jurrjens P
David O’Brien contributed information to this report.
1,545 comments Add your comment
i # 1
July 17th, 2011
1:40 pm
FIRST
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
1:44 pm
Sorry, Ms. Rogers!
Thanks for the new Blog…
jeffrey d
July 17th, 2011
1:44 pm
Thanks Carroll
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
1:44 pm
Yes, do watch that runner…
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
1:45 pm
Heyward is where he belongs. On the bench. He is pathetic.
Sopheee
July 17th, 2011
1:45 pm
Thanks, Carroll!
Congrats to JV – how exciting.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
1:45 pm
Great job JJ
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
1:45 pm
Got him. Nicely done…
Mixxo
July 17th, 2011
1:45 pm
Thanks Mrs. O’Brien.
BIG out!
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
1:46 pm
Way to make it look easy, JJ!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
1:47 pm
Triple J very nicely done.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
1:48 pm
3 run first for the Bravos would be nice.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
1:48 pm
Congrats to the Venters!!
That’s very exciting.
McCmann and Aqua Hoss
July 17th, 2011
1:49 pm
man man man man…
McCmann: Ahhh it’s that time of the year again…
AquaHoss: Refreshing isn’t it?
McCmann: Quite so. Remember that time….oh wait Tex was an epic failure
AquaHoss: Go get em Schuerholz. errrr Wren
BFChris26
July 17th, 2011
1:50 pm
Lets go Braves!
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
1:50 pm
Good to see the phenom on the bench with another southpaw towing the rubber.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
1:50 pm
Bing!
Soldier—-!!!
“Get Out The WAYYYY!!!! (Boom) Pretty Boy Coming Through! Me And My Crew! We Swaggin In The Room!”
Nice at bat K-Fer!
Mitchie-san
July 17th, 2011
1:50 pm
Great day for sports. Let go Bravos and Team USA!!!
Josh
July 17th, 2011
1:51 pm
hope they don’t trade Lowe. We need him in the playoffs
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
1:51 pm
Marteen with a double right here
Frankie Wren
July 17th, 2011
1:51 pm
Hit and run basehit to right field.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
1:52 pm
Josh, why would you think our 5th starter will pitch in the playoffs?
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
1:53 pm
Speed.
Sopheee
July 17th, 2011
1:53 pm
Great hustle, Schauffeurre.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
1:53 pm
Schafey wreaking havoc….cmon get some runs.
Heath
July 17th, 2011
1:53 pm
Good steal…. and he is rewarded be getting to 3rd.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
1:53 pm
Nolie
This is why I want a speedster leadoff hitter!
Attababy Schafer!
Umpire Sucks!
Mixxo
July 17th, 2011
1:53 pm
Speed never slumps.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
July 17th, 2011
1:54 pm
SPEED KILLS
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
1:54 pm
Prado, just a wee double
Heath
July 17th, 2011
1:54 pm
I agree that the odds Lowe gets traded this year are infinitely better than 2 years ago… money, as Ms. Rogers points out, being the biggest reason.
It may not happen, but I still think it’s more likely.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
1:55 pm
Yeahhh Baby!!!!!
Frankie Wren
July 17th, 2011
1:55 pm
Willie Harris batting 3rd for the Metropolitans. You think we have problems?
Mixxo
July 17th, 2011
1:55 pm
I missed Marteeen.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
1:55 pm
okay single then
BFChris26
July 17th, 2011
1:56 pm
Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!!!!!!!
Heath
July 17th, 2011
1:56 pm
It’s 1-0 already in Atlanta.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
1:56 pm
Yay!!
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
1:56 pm
A first inning lead. Nice.
Sopheee
July 17th, 2011
1:56 pm
Doin’ what he does best.
Teeeee for Texas
July 17th, 2011
1:56 pm
That kid can do it!
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
1:56 pm
Martin!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
1:56 pm
Cmon Mac shed the collar against this guy.
McCmann and Aqua Hoss
July 17th, 2011
1:57 pm
“Willie Harris batting 3rd for the Metropolitans. You think we have problems?”
Braves circa 2008
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
1:57 pm
Wow The Nationals Defense has been AA-esque all series. I’m still P’d we didn’t take advantage of their errors last nite!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
1:59 pm
Freeman with a BOMB calling it….
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
1:59 pm
Arg…
Frankie Wren
July 17th, 2011
1:59 pm
And Willie Harris almost goes yard.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
2:00 pm
Martini!!!!!!
Nice!
I'm likin' this!
July 17th, 2011
2:00 pm
Bunch of speedsters today!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
2:01 pm
a pass to Freddie? give up that tater Gorzelanny
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:01 pm
Go Mets.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
2:01 pm
grrrrrr…..get him Uggsy!
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
2:02 pm
This guy is rattled, take advantage Dan
Mixxo
July 17th, 2011
2:02 pm
I like Dan in this spot now.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
2:02 pm
JoeBrave
“Freeman with a BOMB calling it….”
It isn’t Valid unless you “Bank On It!”
C-Roge or D.O.B. Needs to do a contest on here.
The person who calls the best predictions gets a Free Dinner At Fugo De Chao or a Night at the game in their booth
I'm likin' this!
July 17th, 2011
2:02 pm
Isn’t that nice to finally hear? Uggla is currently the Braves HOTTEST HITTER!!!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
2:02 pm
nibble nibble BOOM! Uggs go yard
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
2:03 pm
Struggla Will Do Nothing Here, Bank On It!
Josh
July 17th, 2011
2:04 pm
Joebraves, did you think the same thing about Lowe last year before September? he’s a proven big game pitcher don’t count him out yet
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:04 pm
I don’t think this pitcher’s gonna’ be around too long today.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
2:04 pm
Trainwreck . Punish him
LAG
July 17th, 2011
2:04 pm
What happened here?
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
2:04 pm
BALL or Balk?
Frankie Wren
July 17th, 2011
2:05 pm
Just hit a Sac fly
I'm likin' this!
July 17th, 2011
2:05 pm
Niiiiice call. but it sucks for Uggla. I’d like to have seen what damage he couldve done.
Mixxo
July 17th, 2011
2:05 pm
Dang, Dan got robbed.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
2:05 pm
dang took the bat right outta his hand, Grand Slam here! 5-0 Braves
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:05 pm
Balk.
LAG
July 17th, 2011
2:05 pm
Oh yeah, you can’t do that. Good eyes, Dana DeMuth.
Tomahawkin – Gorzelanny was scared of Uggla, so he walked him on three balls.
Don't Trade Young Pitching
July 17th, 2011
2:06 pm
Who cares about Willie Harris and Mets play by play?
I'm likin' this!
July 17th, 2011
2:06 pm
He licked his fingers and then went straight to the ball, which is a BALL.
Puzzled
July 17th, 2011
2:06 pm
JoeBrave,
When you call it, and it doesn’t happen, you’re obligates to watch without participation for the rest of the game.
Your crystal ball is broken.
Mitchie-san
July 17th, 2011
2:06 pm
wow, when was the last time the Braves had back to back steals?
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
2:06 pm
Sac fly at least, can’t be greedy with Agone
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
2:06 pm
We Better Score Here!
But Gonzo is up, Watch out!
I'm likin' this!
July 17th, 2011
2:06 pm
YESS!!!!!
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:06 pm
Christmas come early!
Mixxo
July 17th, 2011
2:06 pm
We’re in his head big-time!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
2:06 pm
Gorzelanny ain’t co-operating with me here,
Bravefaninok
July 17th, 2011
2:07 pm
Wow just Wow…..
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
2:07 pm
A Gone, nice
John Leonard
July 17th, 2011
2:07 pm
Its wrong to show pictures of Mutts fans on a Braves blog.
Joshua
July 17th, 2011
2:07 pm
Agone is beyond bad.
I'm likin' this!
July 17th, 2011
2:07 pm
Powder Blue — Actually it was a BALL, not a balk.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
2:08 pm
Why was Nate Showing But There? Stupid!!!
Mixxo
July 17th, 2011
2:08 pm
Not a good AB Gonzo. SEE some pitches for cryin’ out loud.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
2:08 pm
Gorzelanny broke my ball.
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
2:08 pm
If they get a high priced hitter after trading Lowe before the trade deadline it makes sense. If they just get a platoon/bench player then I’m not getting it. Lowe hasn’t been all that good, but he’s proved how he is in the playoffs.
Now you trade him the offseason and you understand. It’s not like teams won’t call for him in the offseason if they’re calling now.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:08 pm
I’m likin’ this!,
Thanks for clarifying.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
2:09 pm
grrrr Agon and Nasty nate what a pair of potty poopers.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:09 pm
For those who aren’t aware, Dale Murphy now has a blog:
http://murphtalks.blogspot.com/
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
2:09 pm
Only the Braves Can’t TKO Gorzelanny that Inning! What a waste of good chances. Awfense still Sucks!
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
2:09 pm
A Gone and Nate make anyone a cy guy
Mixxo
July 17th, 2011
2:09 pm
Well, we squeezed a couple out of all that.
Frankie Wren
July 17th, 2011
2:09 pm
2 weeks from now please. Agon batting 8th everyday and Nate on the bench. Please.
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
2:09 pm
Well, that’s better than nothing. Although more would of been nice…
Say no to JUAN PIERRE
July 17th, 2011
2:10 pm
Please, For the Love of all that is sacred…don’t let McLouth play anymore. Such a liability
Jay Dubu
July 17th, 2011
2:10 pm
That inning should have been more productive. Braves need to take advantage of what the Nats give them.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:10 pm
“If they just get a platoon/bench player then I’m not getting it.”
I see you’re familiar with Wren’s specialty.
Puzzled
July 17th, 2011
2:11 pm
LOL. Nice retort JoeBrave. Carry on. It brings life to the ole blog.
Chop Chop
July 17th, 2011
2:11 pm
I don’t get what people are worried about. I don’t think the Braves are a great team, but they’ve got as good a shot as any team in the NL of making it to the World Series. As long as Uggla and Heyward pick it up in the second half, the hitting will be fine. Besides, haven’t you noticed that the Braves seem to be taking care of business? They’ve been making it look easy for quite a while. You should have some confidence in this club. They are going to the postseason.
I'm likin' this!
July 17th, 2011
2:11 pm
Powder Blue — You bet!
Bobby's chauffeur
July 17th, 2011
2:11 pm
They gave us a gift. We should have gotten more . Team lacks that killer instinct .
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
2:12 pm
McLouth is …. nevermind. And AGon, I just wish there was such a thing where a player could be a DH as a fielder. Less you see of him at the plate, the better.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
2:13 pm
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:10 pm
“If they just get a platoon/bench player then I’m not getting it.”
I see you’re familiar with Wren’s specialty.
LOL he does love the clearance aisle at Dolla Generl don’t he.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
July 17th, 2011
2:14 pm
If it’s the post season then the question must be asked……
Mike Minor or Derek Lowe on the mound? I’m pretty sure that the answer is blatantly obvious.
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
2:15 pm
Hard to stay mad at AGon with how good he is at SS.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
2:15 pm
Gonzo!!!!
Nice!!!
Mixxo
July 17th, 2011
2:15 pm
Pick it Gonzo!
BFChris26
July 17th, 2011
2:15 pm
Gonzalez with the glove!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
2:15 pm
Gorzelanny threw 33 pitches in the first, only 16 strikes.
nice catch on the misdirection there for Gonzalez, made all three outs in the second.
I'm likin' this!
July 17th, 2011
2:16 pm
Wow, AGon made all 3 outs that inning. Just wish he was as good with his bat.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
2:16 pm
Coach, Hudson, Hanson, Jurrjens, and most likely Beachy will be postseason starters, Lowe will be in the pen.
Heath
July 17th, 2011
2:16 pm
Apparently we only needed Gonzo on defense that half inning. Nine players? Psh
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
2:17 pm
if it’s Minor with Lowe being moved then he will go to the Pen.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:17 pm
“LOL he does love the clearance aisle at Dolla Generl don’t he.”
Frank knows garbage.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
2:17 pm
123 inning here by Los Bravos.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
2:18 pm
Jay Dubu
“That inning should have been more productive. Braves need to take advantage of what the Nats give them.”
The same thing happened last night. When we don’t take advantage of Little league errors makes me mad to the point where my D… Itches!
GRRRRRRRRRRR
Wilkin Blows, If he is on the Roster in Choptober then we won’t make it past the first round, Bank on It!
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
2:19 pm
JoeBrave, I said that. I’m sure Wren knows how Lowe has always been through the last stretch of the season and into the playoffs. Or at least mostly he’s been real good. When Wren first got the job I wondered, but he’s done good work so far.
Few_Proud_DaBraves
July 17th, 2011
2:19 pm
JoeBrave: I respectfully disagree if Lowe is on this team come playoff time Lowe will be used as the 4th starter not Beachy.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
2:19 pm
Ramirez and Heyward love those balls in the dirt
Say no to JUAN PIERRE
July 17th, 2011
2:19 pm
Have a feeling we won’t score again until the 7th. I’ve seen this movie a few times
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
2:20 pm
I’d pitch Hudson, Hanson and Jurrjens over Lowe in the postseason. Or at least, when thinking about what we can do with an extra 15 million this offseason….
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
2:21 pm
TnBrian, Just funning around about Wren, he is as good as it gets considering.
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
2:21 pm
Heyward doesn’t have very much loft in that swing, therefore you’re going to see a lot of balls hit into the dirt. I still think he can hit 35 bombs in a season. .500+ slugging will occur in his future.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
2:22 pm
TnBrian
“Hard to stay mad at AGon with how good he is at SS.”
It Is. I’m Making it a Priority not to get P’d off in his atbats. The Hitting he had in Toronto was an aberration. I don’t know why so many fans on here thought he could hit 25 homers in the NL when most of the ballparks in the League favor the pitcher?
Gonzo is Rafael Belliard Now. Thats what I’m gonna start calling him
Cy Gorzalanny is dealing now
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
2:23 pm
Edwin
Are you serious. Heyward stinks. What the hell have you Ben watching
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
2:23 pm
“This Game Bores Me!
Is Anyone up for a game of Basketball”
Say no to JUAN PIERRE
July 17th, 2011
2:23 pm
Schafer needs to be used like Dave Roberts re: Boston Red Sox 2004.
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
2:23 pm
Coach, agreed! Lowe or Minor in the playoffs — DUH! Minor just isn’t that good. Nothing I’ve ever seen from him so far says he’ll be anything better than a #4-5 starter on a Royals type team.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
2:24 pm
been*
Mitchie-san
July 17th, 2011
2:26 pm
Quick thing about the soccer match..Part of me would be happy if Japan won today. After what they just suffered and still are going through, a World Cup win would lift the whole spirits of the entire country. It reminds me of when New Orleans won the Super Bowl after Katrina. They need it.
Frankie Wren
July 17th, 2011
2:26 pm
How many times you see a 5th starter in the playoffs??????????
Sorry if Beachy pitches like he did before the DL, Lowe doesn’t get the ball. Nice what he has done in the past but he will need to duplicate last September to get the opportunity.
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
2:27 pm
And how many titles, WS appearances did we get with Belliard as our SS, Tomahawkin? Just hide him in the 8 spot and be fine with occasional homeruns on bad mistake pitches. And a ton of rally killers.
Lowe acknowledges trade possibility | Raw Sports - Atlanta Braves
July 17th, 2011
2:28 pm
[...] Atlanta Braves [...]
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:28 pm
Ugly.
Say no to JUAN PIERRE
July 17th, 2011
2:28 pm
JJ has to ht his sports perfectly…right down the middle there.
Heath
July 17th, 2011
2:28 pm
Wow… he scored on that too?
I'm likin' this!
July 17th, 2011
2:28 pm
THAT sucks!! Of course we give the runs we JUST scored right back to them.
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
2:28 pm
Chris from Sac….get a life dude. You don’t recognize that Heyward is extremely talented then you’re an idiot. Sure, he’s struggling, but that doesn’t mean he sucks. Find a new obsession, you’re ranting is boring.
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
2:28 pm
wow..
Mixxo
July 17th, 2011
2:28 pm
This where the “owning” starts?
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:29 pm
Tn Brian,
The Braves aren’t into world series titles.
Bobby's chauffeur
July 17th, 2011
2:29 pm
Heyward could be the guy we all thought he shoud be. An adjustment at the plate. The kid keeps hitting over the ball and driving it into the ground.
LAG
July 17th, 2011
2:29 pm
Weird play there…
I Gave Her Undertaker eyes
July 17th, 2011
2:29 pm
welp time to turn to team USA
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
2:29 pm
Nice!
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
2:29 pm
JJ leaving pitches to crush. What’s wrong with him?
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
2:29 pm
Hurt himself trying to take out BMac…that’ll teach him, the dummy…
Say no to JUAN PIERRE
July 17th, 2011
2:30 pm
This team against the Nationals is so freakin disappointing.
I'm likin' this!
July 17th, 2011
2:30 pm
Ugh!
TB bravesfan
July 17th, 2011
2:31 pm
what is wrong with JJ?
Jay Dubu
July 17th, 2011
2:31 pm
Those walks always seem to bite you if they’re the leadoff hitter of the inning.
Happend with Schafer, and now for the Nats.
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
2:31 pm
Bobby’s chauffeur
July 17th, 2011
2:29 pm
Heyward could be the guy we all thought he shoud be. An adjustment at the plate. The kid keeps hitting over the ball and driving it into the ground.
…yeah, but he hasn’t made the adjustment. Even though everybody sees what you are seeing.
I'm likin' this!
July 17th, 2011
2:31 pm
I’m hoping Gorzelanny won’t be able to continue since its his push-off leg.
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
2:33 pm
No control for JJ today. He has no idea where the ball is going
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:34 pm
Could be a short day for JJ.
Bobby's chauffeur
July 17th, 2011
2:34 pm
Freddie G needs to pump up the atmosphere in the dugout. Killer instinct ..laid back not going to get it done
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
2:34 pm
You always overlook the Nats until we play them.
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
2:35 pm
this game is whack….never seen a play like that at the plate, where McCann is trying to block the runner as he catches the ball. that looked like a soccer play or something.
TB bravesfan
July 17th, 2011
2:35 pm
Do not feel good about this start,
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
2:35 pm
Keep walking em.
Jay Dubu
July 17th, 2011
2:36 pm
Seams as though a lot of pitchers are coming out of the break a little off their games.
Huddy struggled earliy on Friday, Hanson yesterday, and JJ not as sharp as expected.
Hammels of the Phillies was hammered by the Mets yesterday.
The A Bomb
July 17th, 2011
2:36 pm
From the moment Gonzalez and McLouth blew the 1st inning this game’s momentum changed….
WE CANNOT HAVE FOUR No. 8 HITTERS IN THE LINEUP!
C’mon Frank — get going.
June
July 17th, 2011
2:37 pm
ump must have something in his eye
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
2:37 pm
Yikes.
Couch Tater
July 17th, 2011
2:37 pm
Thanks for the blog and wedding photo, Carroll.
The cop obviously made a bad choice for a bride. Every bride should know wearing a wedding dress with tennis shoes is a serious fashion faux pas. At least, it wasn’t socks with sandals.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:37 pm
“WE CANNOT HAVE FOUR No. 8 HITTERS IN THE LINEUP!”
Five with Heyward.
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
2:37 pm
This game is moving so slow it seems
Mixxo
July 17th, 2011
2:38 pm
Phillies up 4-zip.
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
2:38 pm
Guys, these aren’t the Nats of two years ago or the Expos of ‘04. They’re not that bad, and they’re trending up (and quickly). Get used to it.
Chris from the Rock
July 17th, 2011
2:39 pm
Werthless<Struggla.
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
2:39 pm
Atta boy JJ….way to bear down.
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
2:39 pm
McCann helped work those K’s right then
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
2:39 pm
Sometimes, JJ, you don’t want to pitch to contact. Sometimes, it would be nice to be able to reach back and hit 94 or 95 like you used to.
Also, Tommy hit 96 consistently when he was first called up. Now he hits 90, 91 consistently with an occasional 93, 94.
Is that by design?
Jay Dubu
July 17th, 2011
2:39 pm
I’m following the Braves game via internet, so I don’t have the visual.
For the past several weeks, TBS has carried the same series that Fox showed on Saturday.
ray k.
July 17th, 2011
2:40 pm
Well, we can’t pile on Uggla too much. He’s not hitting .171 anymore. With his stellar .187 average, he deserves a pass on defense.
I love you Dan Uggla. You’re great.
Bravefaninok
July 17th, 2011
2:40 pm
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
2:29 pm
Hurt himself trying to take out BMac…that’ll teach him, the dummy…
Looked like he ran into a brick wall……that was funny.
Bobby's chauffeur
July 17th, 2011
2:40 pm
it’s early.. We can still beat these guys
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
2:41 pm
That’s okay. We get the runs back right here.
Jay Dubu
July 17th, 2011
2:41 pm
Braves have to score JJ somes runs today. The customary 2 – 3 runs are not going to get it done.
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
2:42 pm
Not trying to be mean, but Davey Johnson looks like a sickly old man. Emaciated face.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
2:43 pm
TnBrian McCann helped work those K’s right then
That he did.
Bravefaninok Looked like he ran into a brick wall……that was funny.
Yep! And now he’s out…tsk tsk tsk!
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
2:43 pm
Jason
Prolly somthing to do with going deeper in games, and improved breaking balls.
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
2:44 pm
We should be able to tack on some runs… there pen has to go 7 innings today thats good for us.
Mixxo
July 17th, 2011
2:45 pm
Geez Rodriguez ….. you warm yet?
Jay Dubu
July 17th, 2011
2:46 pm
What happened to the Nats’ pitcher?
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
2:46 pm
Well we can cross out Michael Cuddyer as a target. reported Twins wont trade him, will instead try and battle back this year and work out a extension him.
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
2:48 pm
Think it was a right leg injury for Gorzelanny. No official word yet. Came up gimpy after collision with McCann
Bobby's chauffeur
July 17th, 2011
2:49 pm
C’Mon braves, let’s pretend these games mean something
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:50 pm
“Well we can cross out Michael Cuddyer as a target. reported Twins wont trade him, will instead try and battle back this year and work out a extension him.”
Probably wasn’t on Wren’s list anyway. He’s too good.
Jay Dubu
July 17th, 2011
2:50 pm
Hopefully with the righty pitcher in for the Nats, the Braves will have better at bats.
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
2:51 pm
McCann can’t lay off that crap in the dirt…he’s REALLy having a hard time seein the ball. Need to coorect it quickly
jeff
July 17th, 2011
2:51 pm
what a sad way to blow the lead. the fastest player on the Nats team and he ties up the game. This game is a must win. If we dont win this game Im sorry we are sad and pathetic..
NORRIS
July 17th, 2011
2:51 pm
well, we are showing again today why we need a hitter. I mean come on… we cant hit for nothing.
jeff
July 17th, 2011
2:52 pm
1- 2 -3 go the braves on the first pitcher from their bullpen. just sad
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
2:53 pm
They don’t need a hitter. They need a healthy Chipper and Jason Heyward to be the player he was last year. The pieces are present on this ball club. They could use a righty bat and pen arm, but nothing significant.
NORRIS
July 17th, 2011
2:54 pm
i noticed that the hitting coach was actually talking to one of the guys the other night on the bench and he appeared to be talking about his swing due to his hand movements. I was amazed, I didnt even know we had a hitting coach the way these guys have hit.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
2:54 pm
Rilo he’s REALLy having a hard time seein the ball.
What, ’cause he’s got one K today? He’s been seeing the ball quite well this year.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
2:54 pm
They need a hitter.
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
2:55 pm
Now the game is basically the Nats bullepn vs Jair Jurrjens.
Bobby's chauffeur
July 17th, 2011
2:55 pm
Need a little more patience at the plate
Mike
July 17th, 2011
2:55 pm
This team is playing flat after winning 10K
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
2:55 pm
twisted ankle for Gorzelanny. he’s day-to-day
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
2:56 pm
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
2:53 pm
They don’t need a hitter. They need a healthy Chipper and Jason Heyward to be the player he was last year. The pieces are present on this ball club. They could use a righty bat and pen arm, but nothing significant.
…Propaganda…won’t work here in this forum Frank Wren, we know better. Very clever though. Didn’t expect the General Manager to visit this blog.
Nick
July 17th, 2011
2:57 pm
This game is over. JJ sucks today.
TNScott
July 17th, 2011
2:58 pm
Unbelievable!!! We treat the Nats like they’re the ‘27 Yankees.
Bobby's chauffeur
July 17th, 2011
2:58 pm
Werth will come alive. Hopefully not today
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
2:58 pm
Wonder why Nats own us for years now. It’s hard to figure.
They are suppose to beat us a couple years from now…not now!
Hope we win this.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
2:58 pm
JJ not looking very sharp either. That’s 2 baserunners an inning with runners at 2nd and 3rd with no outs. Yikes.
And Dr. Steve, I will NEVER get used to being owned by the Nats. Ever.
Nick
July 17th, 2011
2:59 pm
Now were 4.5 back of Phillies and only 4 up in WC. Not good.
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
2:59 pm
Cant afford to lose this series. I dont see how the Nats pen can hold it down for the rest of this game. Jurrjens needs to get out of this jam.
Nick
July 17th, 2011
2:59 pm
TRADE JURRJENS!!
Joshua
July 17th, 2011
2:59 pm
Ballgame.
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
2:59 pm
When do you take JJ out?
Mike
July 17th, 2011
2:59 pm
This is not good. JJ having a bad start after Hanson’s bad start. Will not be a good start to lose 2 out of 3 to the Nationals off the break, especially if we lose a game in the standings.
The Braves will NEVER be as good as the Phillies or go any further until they can beat the Nationals.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
2:59 pm
Holy dangit…what gives, JJ? Location not good today…
jeff
July 17th, 2011
2:59 pm
here we go gonna give the Nationals the lead and we wont score again today.. game over.. turned this game off .. way to go lose a yet another series to freaking nationals.
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
2:59 pm
So ridiculous. Belt high fastball right down the middle, great pitch JJ.
CaptainMudderland
July 17th, 2011
3:00 pm
We are having our woes with DC yet again–it really gets me pissed.
Heath
July 17th, 2011
3:00 pm
This… is not good.
TNScott
July 17th, 2011
3:00 pm
Are you kidding me!!! Every time we get close to the Phillies we go in reverse.
cabravesfan
July 17th, 2011
3:00 pm
Now were 4.5 back of Phillies and only 4 up in WC. Not good.
Especially considering neither game is over yet
Hi Nick! We’ve missed you while the team has been winning.
Mike
July 17th, 2011
3:01 pm
Chip Carey is an idiot.
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
3:01 pm
too late. Man this sucks.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:01 pm
Dude…it’s only the fourth? Not as bad as the Blog would have us think…
Nick
July 17th, 2011
3:02 pm
Sad when every Braves fan knows this game is over. The Braves offense is horrible.
TB bravesfan
July 17th, 2011
3:02 pm
Fred sat there and knew JJ did not have it today.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:02 pm
Few_Proud_DaBraves
July 17th, 2011
3:03 pm
the sky is NOT falling.
Nick
July 17th, 2011
3:03 pm
Jurrjens is just not very good.
cabravesfan
July 17th, 2011
3:03 pm
And apparently Nick is already calling both Arizona and Milwaukee for wins, even though neither game has even started yet
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
3:03 pm
Dude….Really Fredi? what more do you need to see from JJ?
Mike
July 17th, 2011
3:03 pm
Come on JJ. The Nats are squarely hitting everything. No cheapies.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:03 pm
So how come that’s not a CS…? ‘Cause he wasn’t “going on the pitch”…?
jeff
July 17th, 2011
3:03 pm
and its truly sad since the nationals existence they have more wins against The Braves than any other Team in the National League. thats just embarrassing..
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
3:04 pm
Nick is actually Chip Carey’s son.
Chris from the Rock
July 17th, 2011
3:04 pm
I’m so tired of seeing these marginal MLBers of the Nats do damage against the Braves.
Mike
July 17th, 2011
3:04 pm
WOW…and we continue to suck at throwing guys out.
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
3:04 pm
Mac sharp with his throws as usual.
TB bravesfan
July 17th, 2011
3:04 pm
The play at 3rd saved that run but it’s to late,
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:04 pm
WHY DON’T YOU WATCH THIS GUY ON FIRST?? He’s like, the fastest guy in the universe!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
3:04 pm
…Propaganda…won’t work here in this forum Frank Wren, we know better. Very clever though. Didn’t expect the General Manager to visit this blog.
Jimmy Hoffa and the Lindbergh Baby are on here too! Can you guess who they are?
Linebrink for Cy
July 17th, 2011
3:05 pm
Nats just always seem to play tougher when they play the Braves
Mike
July 17th, 2011
3:05 pm
That was a homer
Heath
July 17th, 2011
3:05 pm
5-2….maybe 6-2. Either way… not good.
Joshua
July 17th, 2011
3:05 pm
More ballgame.
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
3:05 pm
you’re correct mcFann, because he wasn’t going on the pitch
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
3:05 pm
JJ getting lit up
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
3:06 pm
And Dr. Steve, I will NEVER get used to being owned by the Nats. Ever.
When did I say we’re going to be owned by them? Just saying that they’re not the pushovers they used to be, and will continue to get better.
CaptainMudderland
July 17th, 2011
3:06 pm
That’s game! No need to post any longer today.
Teeeee for Texas
July 17th, 2011
3:06 pm
So how come that’s not a CS…?
Because he made it to third base safe, then came off the bag for the out.
TNScott
July 17th, 2011
3:06 pm
Good time to get a pitcher ready, J. J. is done.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:06 pm
That was not a homer…it hit the padding and came back.
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
3:06 pm
God did not give JJ good stuff…this is what happens when he can’t locate. Your sell high candidate folks…but not gonna happen.
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
3:06 pm
Higheest ERA on this team? Proctor? Lowe? NOPE! Fredi Gonzalez…4 earned runs from JJ here and the rest will belong to the worst manager in the NL.
Joel
July 17th, 2011
3:06 pm
Leave him in there Fredi, you buffoon.
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
3:06 pm
wow
I'm likin' this!
July 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
Oy! I do believe JJ is done!
Few_Proud_DaBraves
July 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
ok NOW the sky is falling
Chris from the Rock
July 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
Jurrjens is throwing BP out there.
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
Atta boy JJ. Looking good.
TB bravesfan
July 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
sit on your but fred
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
Thanks, Ms. Rogers…
T for Texas—
Eh, even if he had just been tagged out, it still wouldn’t have been a CS…
sometimesiwonder
July 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
I thought batting practice was prior to the game…..
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
Jurrjens throwing batting practice now. Guess the analyst and scouts were right, no way Jurrjens could keep up his play.
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
Corection,, FG is the worst manager in all of baseball. What an idiot
lannnerbraves
July 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
unreal…i hate that pesky nats…darn bugs
Heath
July 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
The pool is calling… I might answer soon.
CaptainMudderland
July 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
Dear Fredi—P.S. Please take JJ out–ERA taking a hit today.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
3:07 pm
Steve, sorry. You are correct in that you didn’t say it. But, since they have owned, are owning us, and you said they were getting better; I inferred that you meant we might as well get used to it.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
July 17th, 2011
3:08 pm
JJ ain’t fooling anybody today. Dude is getting lit up like a Christmas tree.
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
3:08 pm
Schafer turns the wrong way on both balls hit over his head.
Mike
July 17th, 2011
3:08 pm
What is Fredi doing??? JJ is done. Time to go to the bullpen. Might as well get Proctor some work. We aint coming back in this one. Not with this pathetic line-up.
Everygame that this offense performs as it does, the worse I feel about this team.
Mitchell
July 17th, 2011
3:08 pm
WTF.
We knocked their starter out of the game and yet we’re losing.
How do you let this team just kick your ass. It’s embarrassing.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:08 pm
gNats have always been a big problem down here…
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:08 pm
Good Grief!!!!
R u Kidding Me!
LAG
July 17th, 2011
3:08 pm
Somebody said that Jurrjens was missing up a lot today. I wish that person hadn’t been telling the truth.
lannnerbraves
July 17th, 2011
3:09 pm
the braves have 1 hit…yep, it is time to trade for a bat…what they have wont cut it…
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:09 pm
What Happened the last 2 innings? I was on the Phone?
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:09 pm
AGH!! And now the Toyota commercial…this must be what Purgatory feels like…
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
3:09 pm
Well, this offense certainly isn’t coming back. The Nats offense isn’t that good to rough up both Tommy and JJ. Poor execution and bad location. If you are pitching to contact, you better hit your spots.
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
3:09 pm
Rilo
Go away. The worst manager in all of baseball has his team in first place in the wild card race.
Josh
July 17th, 2011
3:09 pm
I sometimes wonder about some people on here. Do some of you realize that you don’t win every game in a 162 game season?
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
July 17th, 2011
3:10 pm
Washington Nationals…..
The answer to why our Bravos won’t win the division, although our Braves have the best shot at the wild card.
Brava
July 17th, 2011
3:10 pm
Why does Fredi let these games get out of hand? I don’t understand. I also don’t understand why the guy I thought was our long reliever, Martinez, is in Gwinnett. I guess Fredi doesn’t need a long reliever since he’s willing to just give games away.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
3:10 pm
Really does stink to start the 2nd half off losing a series to the Nats and a game in the standings to the Phils when you are at home with your best three lined up against the 4th place team.
TB bravesfan
July 17th, 2011
3:11 pm
gNats 8 hits braves ONE….
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
3:11 pm
McFann, I probably shouldn’t comment on the scoring of plays that I only heard from the other room and didn’t actually see.
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
3:11 pm
Now its up to the bats. We really cant afford to lose this series. Wren should make some kind of move, show your trying to improve the team, even if its just a bench bat like Carroll. Make a improvement.
Mike
July 17th, 2011
3:11 pm
How much you wanna bet their bullpen tears through us?
Archangel
July 17th, 2011
3:11 pm
JJ must be protesting his all star start snub.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
3:11 pm
Logan turns the wrong way on balls over his head a LOT.
Serbok
July 17th, 2011
3:11 pm
Only a woman would say: Cooper asked David Ross if he could put on his catcher’s mask. Sure enough Ross complied and the 3-year-old Proctor got to wear the hockey style catcher’s make and crouch down for a photo. Cute stuff.
I doubt DOB wud put it in quite that way?
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:11 pm
TNScott
“Are you kidding me!!! Every time we get close to the Phillies we go in reverse.”
Co-Sign! I just turned This Trash off!
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
3:12 pm
Don’t worry, Danny, AGon and Nate will save this game.
Well Danny boy won’t, but you just wait for Agon and McLost
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
3:12 pm
Schafer turns the wrong way on both balls hit over his head.
And he still might’ve caught both of them had that large wall-shaped object not been in the way. Debbie Downer.
Lou Piniella's cap
July 17th, 2011
3:12 pm
@keylargo, does that surprise you? He does it routinely
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
3:13 pm
Damn it.
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
3:13 pm
Worth saying over n over n over again;
what has Parrish done? Come on, really????
FIRE PARRISH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
3:13 pm
Ballgame.
bobby cerasuolo
July 17th, 2011
3:14 pm
Lowe to the Tigers for who is the question? Austin Jackson?
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:14 pm
McFann
How do you you do the bugeyed emoticon? as well as all the other ones you use?
ChopChamps95
July 17th, 2011
3:14 pm
Jurrjens looking rough today, but you can’t win them all as they say. Oh well, get ‘em next time.
jeff
July 17th, 2011
3:14 pm
wow the worst freakin manager i have ever seen.. once again this offense sucks. Time for the Fans to go home now that game is OVER.. time to go watch something more exciting like the Navy Blue Angels.. atleast they dont disappoint like this team does and loses once again to a team that is at 500.. Nats own this Team and thats pathetic.. peace out .. what a joke.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
3:15 pm
:80:
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:15 pm
F This
Its Time to Ol Yeller Parrish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He Sucks! He Sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
3:15 pm
Good ab by Alex
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:15 pm
;80:
Mitchell
July 17th, 2011
3:15 pm
This is just demoralizing and embarrassing and terrible.
One GD hit in the first inning and the game would have been over. No, we can only take the runs we’re given. The guy hits Schafer and he gets to second. Then we get the one hit in the inning.
Then the walk and the wild pitch and you’ve got two runners in scoring position with one out.
A base hit by either Gonzalez or McLouth and the game is probably over.
They can’t do it. That one hit all year. I know we have a good record but that one hit we just can’t ever seem to get to put the game away.
Two runs in the first inning in that situation is not enough against anybody let alone the Nationals.
Booting balls in the outfield is not okay. Making the same damn mistakes over and over is unacceptable.
Hanson and Jurrjens are allowed to have bad games. It would be nice if once they would get some support.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
July 17th, 2011
3:16 pm
bobby cerasuolo
July 17th, 2011
3:14 pm
Lowe to the Tigers for who is the question? Austin Jackson?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Nope, won’t happen. Austin Jackson is likely headed to the DL with a wrist injury.
Few_Proud_DaBraves
July 17th, 2011
3:16 pm
wow Alex Gonzalez put together a professional at bat
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:16 pm
:80:
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
3:16 pm
Come on Hollywood! Got those flowing blonde locks
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
3:16 pm
jeff
you wont be missed
Jack Lill
July 17th, 2011
3:16 pm
Saturday, another idiot move by the braves. Schafer in center ans McClouth on the bench. It was said in spring training that Schafer had to win the job, that it would not be given to him. Two lies
ChopChamps95
July 17th, 2011
3:17 pm
bobby cerasuolo
July 17th, 2011
3:14 pm
Lowe to the Tigers for who is the question? Austin Jackson?
———————————-
That’d be nice. A RH hitter who can leadoff and actually hit for BA and OBP unlike the pretender at the top of our lineup currently.
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
3:17 pm
Well, just gotta get back on the horse tomorrow. Nats just own us. Can’t stand them.
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
3:17 pm
very boring inning by the Braves bats.
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
3:17 pm
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:18 pm
@Mitchell
Co-Sign, but we are Negative Nellies according to the Kool Aid Drinkers on here, SMH
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:18 pm
Tomahawkin—
Here’s the link for making all the Smilies for this Blog: http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies Enjoy!
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
July 17th, 2011
3:18 pm
Mitchell
July 17th, 2011
3:15 pm
This is just demoralizing and embarrassing and terrible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
Yes , you are demoralizing, you are embarrassing and you are terrible
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
3:18 pm
“Now its up to the bats.”
LOL
Mitchell
July 17th, 2011
3:18 pm
We have one GD hit?
I didn’t know that was our only hit.
Jesus Christ.
This is pathetic.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:18 pm
T for Texas—
No sweat—I do that all the time, too.
southgabrave
July 17th, 2011
3:20 pm
Trading Lowe makes a lot of sense. It would allow much needed room for Minor or Teheran. It opens up salary to aquire a much needed bat. In the playoffs, which I think the Braves are a lock for at least the wildcard, You go with 4 starters at the most. That would mean a rotation of JJ, Hanson, Hudson and Beachy,all that have been better than Lowe. That 5th starter is not needed in the playoffs but that bat would be. 15 mil can get you a bat. Maybe a 3-way trade with Detroit and Tampa Bay. Maybe we could aquire a BJ Upton and Detroit send a bat or prospect to Tampa Bay along with (wishful thinking) Mclouth. Upton will get 7 mil in arbition next year, covered by Lowes salary save.
Tampa can’t afford Upton next year and he is on the block. He has speed, range, power and a good arm. Not a bad outfield of Prado, Upton, Heyward and Schaffer. Then Prado could spell Chipper once in a-while when he comes back.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
July 17th, 2011
3:20 pm
DETROIT — Tigers manager Jim Leyland said a decision on Austin Jackson and his injured left wrist could come on Tuesday.
Jackson hasn’t played since July 10 and hasn’t started since July 7 while dealing with what he said was inflammation in his left wrist.
The outfielder came in as a defensive replacement twice in Kansas City before the All-Star break, but the Tigers are holding Jackson off for a few days while they determine if he will be placed on the disabled list.
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
3:20 pm
JJ getting spanked!!
Bravefaninok
July 17th, 2011
3:20 pm
JJ is putting them on a T up there.
TNScott
July 17th, 2011
3:20 pm
Nate McLouth “bunt.” Joe are you serious? You’d have to give him the latest copy of Webster’s so he could look up the definition first.
Mike
July 17th, 2011
3:22 pm
Why is JJ still in there? Seriously the lack of our bullpen depth is disconcerting. Where is Martinez? Why is he in Gwinnett? Who do we have that you trust in our bullpen that could go now? I can only think of maybe one?
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
3:22 pm
“very boring inning by the Braves bats.”
Situation normal.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:22 pm
Nice Inning Double J
AWFense! Come On!
Adarisville Dawg
July 17th, 2011
3:23 pm
suprise Fredi just runs JJ back out there to give up some more runs
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
3:23 pm
that looked more like JJ….the fifth. just a weird game for him.
Adarisville Dawg
July 17th, 2011
3:24 pm
Martinez is in Gwinett becasue we have to keep Cy Procter on the team so no one swipes him up
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
3:24 pm
Almost entire lineup is underachieving this season. You have the two young guys..Heyward & Schafer, who need a hand on maturing as a MLB players, and Parrish can’t even help touter the young guys. It’s flat out pathetic how Parrish continues to get a check and sink our lineup. Parrish: You’re suppose to help the young hitters not sink them.
What has he done? Carroll? DOB?
bobby cerasuolo
July 17th, 2011
3:24 pm
Three team trade
Braves send Lowe Schafer and Gartell to Det for Austin Jackson and Clete Thomas then send Jackson Delgado Marek and Bethacourt for Keppinger Pence and louis durango
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
3:24 pm
and just like that, a 7 pitch inning…hope FG still pinch hits for him, then again, he is the WORST manager in all of baseball, so no telling what he’ll do
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
July 17th, 2011
3:25 pm
SNAFU…..
Situation normal, all fu**ed up.
Jay Dubu
July 17th, 2011
3:25 pm
It’s the curse of Wedding Dress Dude!!
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
3:25 pm
steve – I know you’re a smart guy but this got past you somehow. If you turn the right way on balls hit over your head, you’ll catch a few more than if you turn the wrong way.
Kat
July 17th, 2011
3:26 pm
Just checking in as I run around this beautiful Sunday afternoon to see how the guys are doing…and not so good. Guess it was a good choice for me to skip watching this game to get errands done. As always I hope I’m wrong and I’ll be missing a great comeback vs. a loss.
TB bravesfan
July 17th, 2011
3:26 pm
Who thinks he will score?
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
July 17th, 2011
3:26 pm
bobby cerasuolo
July 17th, 2011
3:24 pm
Three team trade
Braves send Lowe Schafer and Gartell to Det for Austin Jackson and Clete Thomas then send Jackson Delgado Marek and Bethacourt for Keppinger Pence and louis durango
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
I see that some people’s children can’t read.
Adarisville Dawg
July 17th, 2011
3:26 pm
wow a hit
LAG
July 17th, 2011
3:27 pm
That’s not cool.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:27 pm
Ouch! Hurtward will not be able to run for 3 weeks, Watch!
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
3:27 pm
Heyward will probably miss 4-6 weeks after that, which could be a good thing.
Chris from the Rock
July 17th, 2011
3:27 pm
I felt that one up here in West VA.
Truth
July 17th, 2011
3:28 pm
Hate that Jason got hit, but it’s probably the only way he gets on base.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
3:28 pm
Heyward got on base! Way to go! He’s back
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
3:28 pm
KL–I know. A tongue-in-cheek comment from me. Just hoping that someday you’ll realize there are about two more players on this current club amongst whom your Schafer vitriol can be spread around.
Oh, that and if you don’t like Schafer there’s really no reason to defend AGon at all. They’re basically the same player for us.
Adarisville Dawg
July 17th, 2011
3:28 pm
good send him to gwinett to find his swing cause he lost it last June
great
July 17th, 2011
3:28 pm
Well there goes Heyward for 6-8 weeks.
sometimesiwonder
July 17th, 2011
3:28 pm
is it harder to watch the braves or women’s world cup soccer????? tough one. at least the women play hard and look as is they are playing with effort. ok, harder watching the braves
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
3:29 pm
Nice!!!!!!!!
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
July 17th, 2011
3:29 pm
Mitchell
July 17th, 2011
3:18 pm
We have one GD hit?
I didn’t know that was our only hit.
Jesus Christ.
This is pathetic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yes, you are pathetic and even Jesus Christ can’t save you
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
3:29 pm
PARRISH!! Ya baby!!
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
3:29 pm
Lots of fake posters on here today, being ridiculous about Heyward.
menlobrave
July 17th, 2011
3:29 pm
not over yet guys-it’s only the 5th..
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
3:29 pm
That works. Take em any way we can get em.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
3:29 pm
Jordon does play hard. Have to give the young man that.
Mitchell
July 17th, 2011
3:30 pm
Tomahawkin, now don’t go saying anything bad about the Kool Aid drinkers.
They’re people too.
People who like their ice cream vanilla flavored and white rice with Wonderbread.
Their favorite movie is anything with Cuba Gooding Jr. in it and they especially love fine wine, preferably from a box.
But most of all they love being in second place and by God there’s nothing wrong with that.
So just lay off, okay? Be nice.
Chris from the Rock
July 17th, 2011
3:30 pm
Ramirez’ new name: Wheels.
Eric
July 17th, 2011
3:30 pm
We needed that one
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:30 pm
N Nineeeee
“Almost entire lineup is underachieving this season. You have the two young guys..Heyward & Schafer, who need a hand on maturing as a MLB players, and Parrish can’t even help touter the young guys. It’s flat out pathetic how Parrish continues to get a check and sink our lineup. Parrish: You’re suppose to help the young hitters not sink them.
What has he done? Carroll? DOB?”
Agreed, I want Answers Too. They need to call Parrish Out. It’s a Low Down Dirty Shame that B-Macc, Chipper, among others have to use family members for guidance on their hitting approach. Parrish Blows!
Mitchell
July 17th, 2011
3:30 pm
OMG, they’re actually getting hits.
What’s gotten into them?
Eric
July 17th, 2011
3:31 pm
Let’s put at least four up here
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:31 pm
Well there ya go! anyone that thinks this team doesn’t need an ifusuion of some sort is completely delusional, ya can;’t put it on the pitchers every game, Schafer , Agon, McOut,and Heywad are all automatic outs at the moment, Wild card why settle for second best, i can’t stand the Wild card, it’s kinda like having a crush on a beautiful girl, only to see her you must date her fat sister! this is utterly disgusting.this time next week the Braves will be 6.5 to 7.5 out of the divison, while Frank keeps analyzing Schafer, and Gonzo.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
3:31 pm
Edwin,
Get over it Heyward is lost
Truth
July 17th, 2011
3:31 pm
There’s no such thing as a fake poster.
ChopChamps95
July 17th, 2011
3:31 pm
Joe Simpson just said that was a sharply hit ball to first base by Schafer that ate Morse up. Yep Joe, a 3 hopper is a real screamer.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
3:32 pm
“Well there goes Heyward for 6-8 weeks.”
Addition by subtraction.
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
3:32 pm
From David O’Brien….”I’m hearing no offers have been made yet for Lowe, but definite interest. Teams still in early stages of talks.”
Line on Jurrjens: five innings, season-high eight hits, season-high six runs. two walks, a hit batter, six strikeouts….83 pitches, 50 for strikes
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
3:32 pm
How do you get Edwin out of Efrim?
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
3:32 pm
Heyward can’t even score on a ground ball that is booted. What a tool
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
3:33 pm
Do some of you even like the Braves?? Seriously, it seems like a lot of you actually enjoy when things are going bad.
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
3:33 pm
Powder Blue–You’ve generally got some good things to say, but your opinions on Heyward haven’t been one of them.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
3:33 pm
Dang it, ‘Teeeeeen.
ChopChamps95
July 17th, 2011
3:33 pm
Ramirez can motor too, not as fast a Bernadina but man he can scoot. Hands down the fastest guy on the team.
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
3:34 pm
How do you get Edwin out of Efrim?
I was thinking the same thing, Steve.
cabravesfan
July 17th, 2011
3:34 pm
Heyward can’t even score on a ground ball that is booted. What a tool
And if he had gone and gotten thrown out you would have called him an idiot for going…
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
3:34 pm
Exit Nick. See you soon buddy.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:34 pm
He could have just iBB’d BMac…he didn’t have to pull a stunt like this…
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
3:35 pm
I don’t know if Lowe is dealt this month, but I can bet he’s gone between now and January 1st.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
3:35 pm
We NEED another run here….at least
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
3:35 pm
Steve from OH,
My opinions on Heyward based on his play to date are accurate.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
3:35 pm
SteveOH, killin’ em with civility.
cabravesfan
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ballgame that!
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
GONE!
Chris from the Rock
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
Yawn.
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
Some of you folks, Chris, Mitchell, etc. , need mental help.
Bravefaninok
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
Thank you Mac!
Heath
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
McCann is THE MAN!!!!!!!
Mike
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
Thats good
BFChris26
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
McCann!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
My favorite (current) Atlanta Brave.
menlobrave
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
yay!
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
I LOOOOOOOOOOVE you Mac!!!!!!! AHAHAHAHAH
TNScott
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
BMAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LAG
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
We’re back even, you SUCKAS!
Brava
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
BMac!!!! Love that guy!!!!!!!!!!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
welp way to go Mac!!!
Eric
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
BMAC does it again.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
HAHA!! HE got all of THAT ONE!!
TIE freaking GAME!! Beautiful…
Adarisville Dawg
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
is it possible can we clone McCann????
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
Man we needed that! Way to cover for Fredi Gonzalez there. Now he’s off the hook for the loss.
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
3:36 pm
THAT’S how Burnette got that 5.40 ERA.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
B-MACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOOM-SHOT-LOCK-BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heath
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
cab -
Ballgame that?
I love you lol.
Eric
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
It’s not over yet
Kat
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
Kat
July 17th, 2011
3:26 pm
Just checking in as I run around this beautiful Sunday afternoon to see how the guys are doing…and not so good. Guess it was a good choice for me to skip watching this game to get errands done. As always I hope I’m wrong and I’ll be missing a great comeback vs. a loss.
….I like being wrong
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
Where’s that stank douche Nick at now? Idiot!
Hugo Z Hackenbush
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
All of the people who have called “ballgame” so far today need to walk out in their front yards, naked, and yell “I am a widdle crybaby.” Thank you.
Adarisville Dawg
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
plz God dont let Procter come in
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
My opinions on Heyward based on his play to date are accurate.
Sort of like saying after Fredericksburg that your opinions on the Civil War to date are accurate?
True, but not yet the whole story.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
That being said, I wouldn’t mind if he proved me wrong some day.
Chris from the Rock
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
Another run puts Jurrjens in line for a W after all that.
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
So much for bringing the lefty in to face McCann….two pitches from him and the game is tied….and McCann got Jurrjens off the hook. 6-6. We start anew
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
He could have just iBB’d BMac…he didn’t have to pull a stunt like this…
What idiot said that??
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
Mac freaking attack. MVP consideration, baby! Nice job Mac!!
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
3:37 pm
McCann. Star.
nj
July 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
6-6 ballgame, which is weird because I’ve been told for the last hour that the game was over in the 4th innings.
Mitchie-san
July 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
Boom. Just like that. New ballgame. Keep the faith, people. Geeez.
Bravo_fan 52
July 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
BMac !! …BOMB !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heath
July 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
How cool would that be if JJ gives up 6 runs and still wins?
Couch Tater
July 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
I was just thinking the Nats would take their chances with the rookie and walk the All Star. The All Star makes them pay. hee
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
Frank Wren in the Box saying to hmself, “we don’t need another hitter, let’s just count on Brian McCann hitting three run homers against pitchers like Lincecum and Halladay…EVERY GAME.
Chris from the Rock
July 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
Here comes a gapper from Uggs.
Eric
July 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
We need to get a few more. Who is coming in for JJ?
1995wschamps
July 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
naysayers – “This game is over. Everyone go home. Braves have lost in the 4th”
What? tie game? You mean the braves can actually hit? LOL. That’s why they play 9 (or more) folks.
GTI in Chicago
July 17th, 2011
3:39 pm
Um, Brian McCann is very good at baseball.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:39 pm
Oh, this is happening!
menlobrave
July 17th, 2011
3:39 pm
Uggs!
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
3:39 pm
UGGS!!
Eric
July 17th, 2011
3:39 pm
Way to go Danny . Nine game hitting streak.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
3:39 pm
Way to go Uggla!!!!
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:39 pm
Come On!
Gonzo! Do something Here! Please! I will give you candy!
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
3:39 pm
Efrim–Superstar.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:39 pm
Gonzo better not GIDP! fly ball yes but nothing in the dirt.
BFChris26
July 17th, 2011
3:39 pm
Uggla!!!!!
Mitchell
July 17th, 2011
3:40 pm
That’s the one guy on this team that actually performs up to expectation offensively on a consistent basis and at times even goes beyond that.
He’s the reason we are where we are.
If we had a few more like Brian McCann we might be in first place.
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
3:40 pm
Thank Schafer for some of this. I really like the kid even though, like a lot say, he’s nothing special. But to me he’s good enough and we’ve been winning a lot with him on the team.
Good AB Uggla
brian
July 17th, 2011
3:40 pm
BMAC is B Man!
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
3:40 pm
Uggla…..going the other way…finally making an adjustment. TAKE NOTE HEYWARD. Change that swinging down on the ball hack.
Linebrink for Cy
July 17th, 2011
3:40 pm
Uggla moves to within 11 pts of a .200 avg
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
3:40 pm
One more run and JJ get a win!! LOL
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
3:40 pm
Uggla keeps the Hits coming !!!
LAG
July 17th, 2011
3:40 pm
Dan has looked like a more complete hitter in recent weeks. Couldn’t come at a better time, either.
Heath
July 17th, 2011
3:40 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
JJ has a chance to win!!!!
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:40 pm
Nice! Time for O-Ventbrel!!!
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
3:40 pm
Bravos lead !!!!!!!!!
TB bravesfan
July 17th, 2011
3:40 pm
please score that run. Thank you.
BFChris26
July 17th, 2011
3:40 pm
Gonzo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
3:41 pm
That single gives Uggla a nine-game hitting streak, three off his career-high (Aug. 7-20, 2010)
Bravefaninok
July 17th, 2011
3:41 pm
Good job AGon…..
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:41 pm
I officially can’t stand Gonzo even though we got the lead.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
3:41 pm
SteveOH with the civility, and now with the Civil War. Powder Blue down by two.
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
3:41 pm
Braves lead…. Where are all the haters at?? Idiots.
TNScott
July 17th, 2011
3:41 pm
Productive out Agon!!!
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
3:41 pm
JJ can win now yeah !!!!
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
3:41 pm
Davey Johnson
fyi,
Brian McCann can hit lefties
brian
July 17th, 2011
3:41 pm
N Nineeee – you are going to make McFann jealous
1995wschamps
July 17th, 2011
3:41 pm
Guess what. JJ is now in line to win his 13th. Oh, and Uggla has a hitting streak going.
Josh
July 17th, 2011
3:41 pm
where did all the baseball experts go?
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:41 pm
Forget Candy!
Gonzo gets Jello-Shots for that At-bat!
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
3:42 pm
Does SteveOH invoke civil service for the trifecta?
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:42 pm
Nate a little line drive here please….
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
3:43 pm
T–I wouldn’t bet on it!
LAG
July 17th, 2011
3:43 pm
Rilo – Uggla…..going the other way…finally making an adjustment. TAKE NOTE HEYWARD. Change that swinging down on the ball hack.
Looks like a loop to me, but I agree with you. That’s gonna be the task of some hitting coach… but who?
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
3:43 pm
Heath – unless the BP blows it JJ is on record now as the WP.
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
3:44 pm
Don’t think my last one went through, but just saying Schafer is a decent little spark plug. He helped this inning along. Swiping bases and legging out IF stuff. I’d almost hate to see him dealt because we’ve been winning a lot since he’s been with the team.
McLost is back to pulling ANY and EVERYTHING again. And he K’s . Mercy
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
3:44 pm
N Nineeee – you are going to make McFann jealousbrian
Hah, McFann and I don’t mind sharing some love =D
Mike
July 17th, 2011
3:44 pm
AAARRRGGHHH…Nate you suck.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:44 pm
woops! asking too much of Nate. jeez can’t get any worse than him….err yeah.
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
3:44 pm
i swear i had just opened my fist brewski …and BMac goes BOOM !!! ….guess i may have ‘nother now … that one went down fast and easy …hehe
Heath
July 17th, 2011
3:45 pm
keylargo -
Sarcasm apparently is not conveyed very well in type.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:45 pm
Hope that inning took the wind out of the Nats sails
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
3:46 pm
“Does SteveOH invoke civil service for the trifecta?”
Go away.
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
3:46 pm
LAG…yeah, seems obvious that the major “Dip” in his swing causes him spring out of his swing causing him to swing over the top. I can only assume he has been told but refuses to make an adjustment.
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
3:46 pm
Steve from OH, I’d like to get him locked up. Mac that is. Some sort of deal that removes the club option. Him and Prado. I’d bet they could get Prado to sign for a reasonable deal that would benefit the Braves too.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:46 pm
Nah, I can’t get jealous over that—I think it’s impossible to not love BMac.
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
3:47 pm
Efrim–yes and yes. Both incredibly valuable players.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:47 pm
Nats trying to deal Clippard for Michael Bourn….Attention Frank wake up fella, the team below you is busy.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
3:48 pm
“I will give you candy!”
What the hell?
Joshua
July 17th, 2011
3:48 pm
Burnett??? Really?????????
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:48 pm
Wonder if they would sign BMac to a new extension this off-season with the kind of year he’s had…
I say DO IT!!
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
3:48 pm
Tellin ya, I’m feeling loopy and sick being off my meds today, but this comeback is helping those feelings for sure.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
3:48 pm
Ridiculous
TNScott
July 17th, 2011
3:49 pm
Another hit to an opposing pitcher. CONCENTRATE!!!!!!!!
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
3:49 pm
Another hit by a pitcher. Unbelievable.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:49 pm
The Nationals are willing to trade Tyler Clippard, and have been continually pursuing Michael Bourn…
No you don’t just stay where you are Rizzo.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:49 pm
The Sheriff is In, Lets Do This!!!
Adarisville Dawg
July 17th, 2011
3:49 pm
why can we not get the pitcher out???
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:50 pm
What a dumbass!
BFChris26
July 17th, 2011
3:50 pm
That still worked
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
3:50 pm
Go away.
Nope, just gonna stay here and “sit-in” on the ol’ blog, Powder Blue. Just my own form of civil disobedience. BAM, trifecta!
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
3:51 pm
USA hits the post from 5ft. !!!!! ..ugh !!
Joshua
July 17th, 2011
3:51 pm
WTF
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:51 pm
sonofab!!!!tch!
Heath
July 17th, 2011
3:51 pm
Well… this is crap. Sheesh. After the comeback, we give it right back to ‘em.
BFChris26
July 17th, 2011
3:51 pm
There goes that
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
3:51 pm
UNBELIEVABLE
LAG
July 17th, 2011
3:51 pm
I should be mad that Burnett just got a hit off Sherrill, but
(1) we had some good hits from C-Mart earlier in the year, so all is fair…
(2) if Burnett has to run, he’s gonna wear out before next inning…
(3) he just ran himself into (what should be) a FC, so no harm done.
And then Sherrill finds a way to suck it up anyway, even with the free out.
Navigator
July 17th, 2011
3:51 pm
How Lowe can you go?? He simply has not lived up to the contract (not his fault they give money away), and if someone is willing to cut loose a decent hitter to allow them to cut McLouth that would be great.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
3:51 pm
OUCH!!!!
G-Dammit Sheriff!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That Ball just hit my window!!!!
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
3:51 pm
What a break
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
3:51 pm
now thats pathetic… I cant see how we have one of the best records in baseball when we get handled like this all the time.
Mike
July 17th, 2011
3:52 pm
WOW our pitchers really suck today. Sherrill back on the *hit list
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
3:52 pm
Cue the morons….
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
3:52 pm
“Nope, just gonna stay here and “sit-in” on the ol’ blog, Powder Blue. Just my own form of civil disobedience. BAM, trifecta!”
You’re an idiot.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
3:52 pm
CURSE ME KILTS!!!
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
3:52 pm
Ugh, now I’m feeling sick again
Crestfallen
July 17th, 2011
3:52 pm
Look, I try to stay positive, but remember when every ball Heyward hit almost killed somebody? Now you can pretty much count on a dribbler to the right side or an infield pop-up. I’ve never seen anything like it in baseball before and it is truly heartbreaking. I fear that there are only two possible explanations: Either he has a horrible work ethic or he’s a head case. Either way, it appears he’s not the Griffey we all saw a flash of and hoped and prayed for. Such a bummer.
Adarisville Dawg
July 17th, 2011
3:52 pm
seriously
Linebrink for Cy
July 17th, 2011
3:52 pm
pitcher getting a hit comes back to hurt (don’t they always?)
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
3:52 pm
Mac is owed 8.667 million next year with a club option for 12 million in 2013. Be great to lock him up through 2015. Prado through 2014.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:53 pm
Weird just weird.
Eric
July 17th, 2011
3:53 pm
I knew we needed more runs because of this so called great bullpen. We have three great pitchers in the pen and the rest leave a lot to be desired.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
3:53 pm
Dammit
TNScott
July 17th, 2011
3:53 pm
UNBELIEVABLE!!!! We can’t stand prosperity against the Nationals.
James
July 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
For the life of me why won’t Sherrill only face lefties?
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
You’re an idiot
That’s all you got? LOL. Better go back to the shallow end of the pool Powder. Maybe even over to the kiddie pond.
Nick
July 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
This game is a LOSS no matter how you look at it.
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
Bummer. Was just about to say how impressed I’ve been with Sherrill. Still am, but that sucked.
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
USA women can’t find the Huge Goal.
Chris from the Rock
July 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
We got this. Ball is carrying today.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
Opposing pitcher strikes again. Damn, that is getting old.
And I never feel good bringing in Boy George in a close game. We really could use one more bullpen arm to pitch the 6h. Hurry back, Peter Moylan.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
Wuertz, Adams,or any other reliever would be nice.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
“That’s all you got? LOL. Better go back to the shallow end of the pool Powder. Maybe even over to the kiddie pond.”
And you stay in Texas, troll.
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
3:55 pm
Anybody is “some kinda hitter” when you throw an 88mph right down the gut, Simpson. Stop it
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
3:55 pm
Just when it looked like Braves are off the hook there with Burnett’s baserunning gaffe…..
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:55 pm
Ughhhhh! Lugo??? is that all that’s left? Lugo?
Nick
July 17th, 2011
3:55 pm
The Braves will be out of the Wild Card lead in 5 days.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
3:56 pm
Oh great.
Julio Lugo is going to “hit” next
Brava
July 17th, 2011
3:56 pm
Lugo?
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:57 pm
Ramirez, Lugo, McOut, geez! how miserable can Frank be at night?
LAG
July 17th, 2011
3:57 pm
Tough to say, Rilo. He could use some sessions with a tee… and someone who can fix mechanics. Parrish seems to be an approach guy, if anything.
Nick
July 17th, 2011
3:57 pm
Why is Lugo still on this team?
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:57 pm
Cut his ass now….Right NOW!
Hugo Z Hackenbush
July 17th, 2011
3:57 pm
Phillies are stomping the Mets now. Braves need another comeback.
Mike
July 17th, 2011
3:58 pm
It is so pathetic that our depth in our minor system is so weak that Lugo is the best we can do. That is just sad.
TB bravesfan
July 17th, 2011
3:58 pm
Yall remember that short lead we had?
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
3:58 pm
OMG! now another weak hitter.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
3:58 pm
Pathetic…Absolutely pathetic.
Waste of an AB and an out in my opinion. At least it was quick and not drawn out…Holy crap….I just don’t get that move at all…
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
3:58 pm
Lugo, Ramirez, Hicks, Young…these guys are useless.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
3:58 pm
“Why is Lugo still on this team?”
Because Matt Young isn’t.
Nick
July 17th, 2011
3:58 pm
The Braves are done scoring folks.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
3:59 pm
Powder Blew.
Nick
July 17th, 2011
3:59 pm
4.5 back in division. Wild card lead cut to 4 games.
Eric
July 17th, 2011
4:00 pm
How do the braves always make these pitchers with era’s in the fives look like cy young? The only guy get good solid contact today is McCann.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:00 pm
Fredi trying to provide excitement? I dunno but this crap is getting old, Lugo+Ramirez+Hicks= Greg Norton.
gcs
July 17th, 2011
4:00 pm
Why is Julio Lugo on the team. He is a retread BUM hitting .105. I can’t believe I am saying this but Bring back Diory!
.
Chris from the Rock
July 17th, 2011
4:00 pm
Agreed about Lugo. The backup SS has been an issue all season.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
4:00 pm
“Powder Blew.”
Stay classy, troll.
TB bravesfan
July 17th, 2011
4:01 pm
How many games would 7 runs have won this year?
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:01 pm
Dang, that was QUICK.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:01 pm
Simpson making Schafer look like an IDIOT!
mathman
July 17th, 2011
4:02 pm
Some of you guys are complete fools. Schafer has been on base 7 times in series, scoring 5 runs. Pretty good, I would think. 2 SB’s.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:02 pm
Come On Easy-E
Choppinmama
July 17th, 2011
4:02 pm
Darn-of-a-gun!!! I was gonna post after the inning -
That McCann guy sure can mash, cann’t he? MVP’s gotta take matters into his own hands.
But, nooooooooooo………………..we didn’t savor that moment too long did we?
That’s ok, 3 innings to get at least 1. Hope Heyward has that foot RICE’s by now so he can play on the road.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:03 pm
bring in OFlaherty when behind? Fredi G…can we ask WTH are you thinking?
O.J.
July 17th, 2011
4:03 pm
How deflating is it to score 5 runs, take the lead, then give it right back. Just awful.
Nick
July 17th, 2011
4:03 pm
JJ never gave us a chance to win today. He didn’t deserve the W today. Sherrill is a loser though, release him, Nate, Lugo, and Proctor asap.
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
4:03 pm
Yeah, but will we be getting an arm that is maybe tired too? Talking about getting a RP.
Hinske Da Man
July 17th, 2011
4:04 pm
Thanks for nothing Sherrill you useless piece of crap. This team fought so hard to take the lead and you come in and give up hits left and right not to mention to the opposing pitcher. If you don’t give up a hit to the pitcher we at least come out of that inning tied and at best still with the lead. So for that, thanks a lot you piece of crap.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:04 pm
Some of you guys are complete fools. Schafer has been on base 7 times in series, scoring 5 runs. Pretty good, I would think. 2 SB’s
NO some of us realize a sample size in one series does not override his entire body of work, which leaves a lot to be desired.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:04 pm
Man, we just needed to get through the 6th. Hope the bats have one more good inning in them. Like the next inning!
Mitchie-san
July 17th, 2011
4:05 pm
“The backup SS has been an issue all season.” —CftR
Actually both SS have been an issue. Offensivly anyways…
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:05 pm
Hell Yeah, Easy-E!!!
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
4:06 pm
could we trade or release Nick?
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
4:06 pm
Good inning, EOF…
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
4:06 pm
JoeBrave, it’s called having a shutdown inning. That’s why you bring EOF in. My God!
shmoe
July 17th, 2011
4:06 pm
slugfest today….let’s get some runs!!!!
Choppinmama
July 17th, 2011
4:07 pm
There was the chance for the win for JJ too………
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:07 pm
I was referring to the utilization of Sherrill over OFlaherty with the lead TnBrian.
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
4:07 pm
8 – 3 phils over mets B8
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:08 pm
T for Texas
[You’re an idiot]
“That’s all you got? LOL. Better go back to the shallow end of the pool Powder. Maybe even over to the kiddie pond.”
Ouch!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:09 pm
A direct criticizm of Fredi G not Sherrill, or OFlaherty,Sherrill should never have pitched with the lead.
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
4:10 pm
Wow that’s one fuggly pitcher. He looks like one of those garbage pale kids.
Bravo_fan 52
July 17th, 2011
4:10 pm
Girls get a GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:10 pm
now they face Clippard&Storen, geuss who is outmanaged again.
shmoe
July 17th, 2011
4:10 pm
we have 3 innings to score 1 or 2 runs. meat of the order should bat twice including this time.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
July 17th, 2011
4:10 pm
Have to admit, I don’t get why Sherill was pitching to a right-handed home-run hitter.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:11 pm
Come On Martini!
Eric
July 17th, 2011
4:11 pm
The bats have a pretty good back of the pen, hopefully we can get some hits today yesterday we couldn’t touch them.
Eric
July 17th, 2011
4:12 pm
Meant to be nats darn spell check
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:12 pm
Who cares about Soccer? Is SEC Football Time!
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
4:12 pm
easy outs
Eric
July 17th, 2011
4:13 pm
Let’s go Mac you are to only guy on the team with a chance it seems.
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:14 pm
damn i missed the USA goal !!!!!!!
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:14 pm
Come on boys, one more time…let’s take the lead and hold it. Be a shame to lose this game!
Choppinmama
July 17th, 2011
4:14 pm
Gosh you guys, this game is no where close to pathetic, it’s baseball……. not worth pumping the blood pressure to dangerous levels. Truly, “a game of inches.” (and some inept umpiring lately)
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:15 pm
I cant watch soccer! It SEC Football Time! Baseball is Sooooo Boring w/o the PED’s and roids
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
4:15 pm
Clippard is pretty nasty.
shmoe
July 17th, 2011
4:15 pm
cmon mac….that was right down the middle
Rilo
July 17th, 2011
4:15 pm
Right down the emiddle….dangit
Joshua
July 17th, 2011
4:15 pm
Offense suddenly looking dead after the big inning. Familiar.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
4:15 pm
At least we don’t have to listen to Gant or Jordan
Nick
July 17th, 2011
4:15 pm
Tough loss for Braves.
shmoe
July 17th, 2011
4:15 pm
sick
Tito
July 17th, 2011
4:16 pm
without the HR and errors we are in deep trouble.
TNScott
July 17th, 2011
4:16 pm
Well, that was easy.
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:16 pm
Bravos still got six outs …i believe …
Eric
July 17th, 2011
4:16 pm
Just like yesterday the meat of the order put down like a rabid dog.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:16 pm
7th inning behind, bats taking the rest of the day off, ready to catch the Charter to Denver. 4.5 back and only 4 up in the W/C
Billy
July 17th, 2011
4:16 pm
Some of you bandwagon fans need to get a life and cut the crap talk.
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
4:17 pm
Clippard is a tough pitcher
Mike
July 17th, 2011
4:17 pm
That was sad
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
4:17 pm
I’d be surprised if we get another base runner this afternoon. I expect to go quietly into the night.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:18 pm
Bring on Vennie-Macc!!!!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:19 pm
Billy
July 17th, 2011
4:16 pm
Some of you bandwagon fans need to get a life and cut the crap talk
Or what? you gonna beat us up with your keyboard?
Nick
July 17th, 2011
4:20 pm
Braves are DONE. Both today and for the season.
darrell starks
July 17th, 2011
4:20 pm
B.J UPTON MAY BE ON TRADING BLOCK SOON, GO GET HIM FRANK.
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:20 pm
this is very disheartening, loss after loss to muddling teams.
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
4:21 pm
If it’s still a one run game in the top of the 9th, I hope Fredi uses Kimbrel instead of Linebrink, Gearrin or Proctor.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:21 pm
Upton? Hell no we have Upton now see Jordan Schafer.
Billy
July 17th, 2011
4:21 pm
Joeblow, meet be out side gate G..DA
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
4:21 pm
Oh my God. Looked like a 98 mph sinker.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:22 pm
Hell Yeah Easy-E
Underrated!!!!!!!!!
Heath
July 17th, 2011
4:23 pm
Espinoza = NLROY
darrell starks
July 17th, 2011
4:24 pm
What player would it take 2 get B.J UPTON.
MIKE MINOR AND ANOTHER TOP PROSPECT, AND MCLOUTH AND GONZALEZ.
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
4:24 pm
Kimbrel
Espinoza= NLROY =DTnBrian
July 17th, 2011
4:24 pm
Nick, interesting. What leads you to believe the Braves are done? Something you see everybody else doesn’t? Let’s talk about this. Or is that not your thing? You don’t want a discussion about this? Come on!
Bravo_fan 52
July 17th, 2011
4:25 pm
Japan ties it
brian
July 17th, 2011
4:25 pm
tough loss? Game is NOT over yet
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
4:25 pm
I’m told the wedding dress guy was released from jail at 6 a.m. and has a court date Monday…in case anybody was wondering (smile)
Eric
July 17th, 2011
4:25 pm
If we tie it up do you keep venters in to pitch the ninth in case of extra innings?
fred
July 17th, 2011
4:25 pm
Schafer and Minor would do it….darrell
Nick
July 17th, 2011
4:26 pm
The Braves starters are showing signs of decline and the offense isn’t getting any better. Expect to be out of WC contention in 2 weeks.
Linebrink for Cy
July 17th, 2011
4:27 pm
that was a nice swing Dan, very nice
Eric
July 17th, 2011
4:27 pm
The wedding dress guy was funny last night but they had him under control quickly. It must be hard to run in a wedding dress.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
4:27 pm
Uggla swung at ball four….twice.
Twice.
Tito
July 17th, 2011
4:27 pm
Dang Uggla….REALLY?
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:27 pm
Struggla and Gonzo =’s 2 outs!!!
jeff
July 17th, 2011
4:28 pm
back from the airshow and typical horrible use of the Pen again is gonna cost them. the same thing happened against the orioles. baltimore had a 3 run lead we take the lead and the next inning mr manager puts in proctor and walaa the orioles take the lead. and today. he leaves in sherrill to pitch to the bottom and espinosa comes up and one pitch gives them the lead back. sometimes u need to bring in your best pitchers earlier.. but no freddie cant do that.. once burnett had the lead back i said they arent scoring again. and here we are 5 outs away from yet another series loss to the average nationals. . Uggla swings at 2 balls not even close to being strikes . way to go Dan..
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
4:28 pm
Bummer. Thought Uggs was gonna get on base there.
Nick
July 17th, 2011
4:28 pm
Gonzalez up, 2 outs.
Booger Eater
July 17th, 2011
4:28 pm
BJ Upton is beyond terrible. He’s no better than Jordan Schafer. Justin Upton, on the other hand, would be nice. Not gonna happen though.
Bravos just need to send D-Lowe somewhere and get some payroll flexibility. Get Bourn, Pence, Cuddyer, or whoever… J-Hey, McLouth, and Jordan aren’t cutting it in the outfield. If we do make the playoffs, can you imagine how terrible these guys are gonna look against the Giants or Phillies pitching staff?
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
4:29 pm
Swing the bat, please.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
4:29 pm
so are we all now ready to trade Jair afterall??
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
4:29 pm
Can the wedding dress guy hit left handed pitching????
TB bravesfan
July 17th, 2011
4:29 pm
could have got on if he had not swung at that tree topper
Joshua
July 17th, 2011
4:29 pm
We just have too many automatic outs right now, IMO.
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
4:29 pm
Clippard looks like a lesbian.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:29 pm
Carroll Rogers
“I’m told the wedding dress guy was released from jail at 6 a.m. and has a court date Monday…in case anybody was wondering (smile)”
Who bailed him out? Derek Lowe? (joking)
jeff
July 17th, 2011
4:30 pm
clippard will have a 1-2-3 inning once again..
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
4:30 pm
Alex goes 0-4
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
4:30 pm
Carroll – aren’t you getting married soon?? Do you need a used only once wedding gown??
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:30 pm
Billy, you don’t have enough wheaties in your mama’s cupboard.
Tito
July 17th, 2011
4:30 pm
Gozo/McClouth….that’s our hope
southgabrave
July 17th, 2011
4:30 pm
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:21 pm
Upton? Hell no we have Upton now see Jordan Schafer.
Upton avg 245 15hrs and 45+rbi’s…yea a low average but very productive. Yes he is like Jordan, good speed good defense and young. BTW Jordan may not be the best but he is giving a 100%. He hustle and plays excellent D. I am not saying Jordan is the answer he isn’t but maybe he isn’t the problem because since Mclouth went out and Jordan started the team playing way over 500
Nick
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
Alex Gonzalez is beyond terrible. We’re getting NOTHING out of him and Nate.
Heath
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
Both K’s were swinging… at balls.
Booger Eater
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
Is anyone else aware that BJ Upton is not good? Geez.
O.J.
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
Effing worthless!!!!
darrell starks
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
JOE BRAVES The braves going after upton would be perfect put him in LF AND BATTING SECOND AND PLUS HE HAVE POWER WITH A CAREER OBP OF .350 WITH 40 STEALS A YEAR.
This guy is a beast and still young.
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
Nate!
Heath
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
McLouth!!!!!
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
I don’t believe it.
cabravesfan
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
NATEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
HHHOOOLLLYYYYY CRRRRAAAAAPPPPPPPP
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAATTTTEEEEEE
BFChris26
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
McLouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
Oh cool. Didn’t expect that
Eric
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
Holy smokes mc Louth with the long ball.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
Now that’s funny. Nate!
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
Big Nate!!!!!
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
NATE-DAWGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOOM-SHOT-LOCK-BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brava
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
Dang, Nate!!!! Wow!!! Lucky Charms from the Leprechaun!!!!
Tito
July 17th, 2011
4:31 pm
WOW……..I’m eating some CROW…for now, at least
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
Exit Nick. Tough day for Nick.
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
Nate Dawg comes thru !!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO Bravos !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fred
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
Now say the damn is is over ..quiter
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
well I’ll just be dadgummed…. Natester KUNGPOW!
jeff
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
wow nate wow…the jinx works again..
Bravefaninok
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
Trade that bum Nate before he kills us again…..ohhh nevermind.
Good job Mcnate.
TB bravesfan
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
boy if ugga and gonzo had been patient
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
Was that a replay from last year????
Or was McLouth wearing a Pirates jersey??? I do not believe it either.
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
Tyler Clippard is no Johnny Venters.
southgabrave
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
wow a squirrel finds a nut!!!
Nick
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
Braves lose 9-8
LAG
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
Nick said we were done scoring today. You, sir, fail again.
Hinske Da Man
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
Sherrill pitched with a 1 run lead over O’ Flaherty, and Venters for what reason? This loss is squarely on the fat broad shoulders of Sherrill for being the useless pitcher that he is, and also Fredi Gonzalez for putting in a weak pitcher with such a small lead instead of the guys that have shut down hitters all year long.
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
Wow. Nate.
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
4:33 pm
Gonzo’s OBP now .260. Now, I’m no big fan of Schafer, but for all of you ripping Schafer every chance you get on here, in what way is Alex superior to him?
Eric
July 17th, 2011
4:33 pm
Bring back venters if it’s still tied up
Mitchie-san
July 17th, 2011
4:33 pm
Haha…you guys kill me.
Nick
July 17th, 2011
4:34 pm
Release Hinske. His career is over.
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
4:34 pm
first homer for mcLouth since may 4 vs. Greinke
Couch Tater
July 17th, 2011
4:34 pm
I’m told the wedding dress guy was released from jail at 6 a.m. and has a court date Monday…in case anybody was wondering (smile)
Honeymoon is over.
Linebrink for Cy
July 17th, 2011
4:34 pm
lets sit the Nats down 1-2-3 in the top of the 9th and have Brooks walk it off in the bottom half … that’d work
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
4:34 pm
that damn worthless McLouth, I though we got rid of that bum…
O.J.
July 17th, 2011
4:34 pm
Tomahawkin, why do you say boom shot lock boom?
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:34 pm
We Better win this Game!
brian
July 17th, 2011
4:35 pm
I was just looking over the stats of the game thinking that Schafer should really play over Nate when Chipper comes back and then…………….
Booger Eater
July 17th, 2011
4:35 pm
How did Nate hit a home run? I didn’t think they allowed batting tees in regulation play.
groundfog
July 17th, 2011
4:35 pm
Nate went 2 for 5 Friday with a rbi and a bomb today. sure like him in that 7th hole he gets a few more pitches and has some power.
Bravefaninok
July 17th, 2011
4:35 pm
Hinske Da Man
July 17th, 2011
4:32 pm
Sherrill pitched with a 1 run lead over O’ Flaherty, and Venters for what reason? This loss is squarely on the fat broad shoulders of Sherrill for being the useless pitcher that he is, and also Fredi Gonzalez for putting in a weak pitcher with such a small lead instead of the guys that have shut down hitters all year long.
Sherrill has been very good all year,and it was the 6th inning….oventrell pitch 7 ,8,and 9 .
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
4:36 pm
“Who bailed him out? Derek Lowe?”
How is that funny?
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
4:36 pm
in what way is Alex superior to him? Steve
relative to position played???
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:36 pm
@ fred …
+1
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
4:36 pm
PLEEEEEEEEZ hold ‘em here!!!
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:37 pm
Come On Kimmie!!!
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:37 pm
My man, Nate! Steve, you are correct in that they give you about the same. But, we can’t have both of them in the lineup and neither one of them should sniff the top 6 in the order. Either one would be okay if we had a better option at the other spot. I don’t think the Braves should stick with both of them if they can find a better alternative. Can’t have a guy with a .293 OPS and .610 OPS leading off!
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
4:37 pm
nolie–that’s about it, really. Throw that out, and they’re both just a couple of guys who can’t hit and both play D very well. Schafer runs much better. Just posing a rhetorical question for the Schafer haters.
And yes, once a prospect hugger, always a prospect hugger.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:38 pm
Boy George hasn’t pitched in a lot of key situations though.
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:38 pm
that’s ONE !!
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:38 pm
O.J.
“Tomahawkin, why do you say boom shot lock boom?”
Because It sounds Cool, F@rt-knocker! WOOOOOOOOOOOO, Rock On!!!
No offense!
Attababy Kimmie!
O.J.
July 17th, 2011
4:38 pm
Tomahawkin, you didn’t answer my question
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:38 pm
Oops, .293 OBP.
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
4:38 pm
“Roger over and out”
That’s our announcer, fans. Gimmie a break. STUPID!
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
4:38 pm
Can’t have a guy with a .293 OPS and .610 OPS leading off!
Also a very valid point.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:39 pm
Teen with a walk-off of some sort?
Eric
July 17th, 2011
4:39 pm
I thought fredi would pitch venters one more inning.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
4:39 pm
what happened to our vaunted pitching the last two games against one of the worse offenses in NL baseball?
Hugo Z Hackenbush
July 17th, 2011
4:39 pm
Shaun should love this…Fredi brings in the best pitcher remaining!
reagan
July 17th, 2011
4:39 pm
Keylargo…….yea….Clippard really is lacking………..WHIP is 0.84 and era is 1.72. Not too bad,eh?
O.J.
July 17th, 2011
4:40 pm
Gotcha, thought you were quoting that song or something and was wondering why you were saying it like that.
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
4:40 pm
Kimbrel just told Espinosa who is the ROY. Go sit down HO!!!
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:40 pm
Kimmie Is Clowning!!!
Nice!
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
4:40 pm
DFA Nick. His chronic halitosis is stinking up the blog
Billy
July 17th, 2011
4:40 pm
The wedding dress guy a night in Fulton Co. jail…I’d rather go back to Viet Nam than spend a night in FCJ..that place is hell. I work there one time, enough said.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:41 pm
How about we get Clippard?
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
4:42 pm
noleee – I think the 2nd half will be a complete reverse – lots of runs scored and given up…
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
4:42 pm
Wouldn’t have fooled with Z either
Hugo Z Hackenbush
July 17th, 2011
4:42 pm
I’m sure the wedding dress guy was a big hit with the other inmates.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
4:42 pm
Boy George hasn’t pitched in a lot of key situations though. Jason
Boy George?? I thought he was a singer
Joshua
July 17th, 2011
4:42 pm
I got a bad feeling about this game. Hope I’m wrong.
Eric
July 17th, 2011
4:42 pm
Come on Craig let’s get this guy don’t let this walk kill us.
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
4:43 pm
this guy Morse scares me
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:43 pm
I actually thought they might have pitched Eric O in the 6th and Jonny 2 innings. Not saying they should have, but with Jonny’s lack of work lately.
the truth...
July 17th, 2011
4:43 pm
hey Nova Scotia Steve
How about you head home north of the border along with 3/4 of the juvenile game is over ten year olds on this blog?
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:43 pm
O!brudder…..
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:43 pm
DAMN !!!!!!!!!
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:43 pm
Kimmie!
COME ON!!!
Mike
July 17th, 2011
4:43 pm
Come on Man….Damn. Can anything be easy in this game. What the Hell?
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
4:43 pm
that walk by Zimmerman was first allowed by Kimbrel since 6/18. he’s been 11 appearances without one
Tito
July 17th, 2011
4:43 pm
wellll………
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:43 pm
Boy George Sherril.
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
4:44 pm
Always not fun watching a closer in a non-save situation.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:44 pm
Proctor time after this inning… Oh my someone please relieve Fredi of his useless crutch!
lexbrave
July 17th, 2011
4:45 pm
boy, if the braves could figure out how to hit AND pitch in the same ball game, they’d be on to something
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:45 pm
Hell Yeah Kimmie!
Lets Get a Walk-off Win!
the truth...
July 17th, 2011
4:45 pm
As Joe said with Colorado ahead they want to save as many innings as possible for the pen.trying to stick to one inning per arm….
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:45 pm
end this NOW Bravos !!!!!!!!!!
Bravefaninok
July 17th, 2011
4:45 pm
Lets win this right now!
Eric
July 17th, 2011
4:45 pm
We better win it here or we have to go to the second string bullpen.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
4:45 pm
yeah Jason, just clownin’
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:46 pm
Nobody time after this inning. We win it. Right here.
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
4:46 pm
let’s go win this beeeeyotch!!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:47 pm
I hope so Jason, or else this could get ugly Linebrink, Gearrin, Proctor.
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
July 17th, 2011
4:47 pm
Here comes the walk off win!
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:48 pm
Come On Connie!!!!
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
4:48 pm
“I’m sure the wedding dress guy was a big hit with the other inmates.”
Prison bride.
Tito
July 17th, 2011
4:48 pm
K or Home run for COnrad….but which one will it be???
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
4:48 pm
Steve from OH – I can tell you one difference. Schafer has 1 HR is 200 PA and Alex Gonzales has 31 HR’s in the last two years. You adjust it any way you’d like, but like yesterday, a 2 run dinger comes as a pleasant surprise every now and then.
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:48 pm
Conrad over Ross? I understand the lefty/righty concept but please….
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
4:49 pm
K
You win when the Phils win, right?
July 17th, 2011
4:49 pm
Well then, it’s pre-ordained…
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
4:49 pm
You adjust it any way you’d like, but like yesterday, a 2 run dinger comes as a pleasant surprise every now and then.
I think the last 6 words sum it up nicely…
Louisville Brave
July 17th, 2011
4:49 pm
Oh Lordy…Brooks Conrad time
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
4:50 pm
Good start…
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:50 pm
Yesss!!! We Will Win This, Bank on it!!!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:50 pm
No bunting,, for Heavens sakes no bunting.
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
4:50 pm
Let’s end it, Marteeen!!!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:50 pm
will wonders never cease
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:51 pm
Nice
Schafer
Come On Martini
Do it for Soph!
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:51 pm
nice Jordan !! ….
winning run @ 2nd ..
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
4:51 pm
how can we possibly win if we have to pitch Proctor or Linebrink?
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:51 pm
Marteen walk off right here.
Ward
July 17th, 2011
4:52 pm
Hello Every one! Goal USA 2-1………………….
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:52 pm
USA 2-1 in extra time !!!!!!!!!!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:52 pm
What a great umpire, blind and dumb.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:53 pm
Good eye Martini!
daniel buck
July 17th, 2011
4:53 pm
Lowe is in the locker room packing his gear
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:54 pm
Marteen make him pay!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:54 pm
I be damned
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:54 pm
G-Dammit
Connie!!!
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:54 pm
damn ! …
Mike
July 17th, 2011
4:54 pm
Damn
Tito
July 17th, 2011
4:54 pm
This is the dumbest team in MLB history……NO REASON TO RUN THERE!!!!
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
4:54 pm
Brooks…
One-Eyed
July 17th, 2011
4:55 pm
Enter your comments here
daniel buck
July 17th, 2011
4:55 pm
Brooks is a tard sometimes
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
4:55 pm
Awful baserunning. Just damn awful.
Mike
July 17th, 2011
4:55 pm
WTG Conrad. Stupid baserunning
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
4:55 pm
Idiot. What a fool! How long has Conrad been playing this game?
fred
July 17th, 2011
4:55 pm
Conrad pulls a Schafer..minor league!
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:55 pm
Didn’t we see that last night. Oy.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:55 pm
Connie Just made a Willie Mays Hayes Play on the basepaths there!!
GRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!
Linebrink for Cy
July 17th, 2011
4:55 pm
don’t always have the smartest base runners on this team
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
4:56 pm
Curse of The Nats
groundfog
July 17th, 2011
4:56 pm
Conrad has the IQ of a baboon. You can score from second on a hit..idiot
daniel buck
July 17th, 2011
4:56 pm
KABOOOOMMMM
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
4:56 pm
WTF is Brooks doing
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
4:57 pm
Yikes, Conrad.
daniel buck
July 17th, 2011
4:57 pm
SAFE
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:57 pm
Marteeeeen !!!!!!
One-Eyed Mac
July 17th, 2011
4:57 pm
Horrible baserunning….2nd day in a row! If the ball’s in front of you, you don’t go…how hard is that to understand?
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:57 pm
Martini!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice
Come On B-Macc
menlobrave
July 17th, 2011
4:57 pm
no harm-runner back on 2d
terrell
July 17th, 2011
4:57 pm
Why is Brooks Conrad still on the team?
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
4:57 pm
Come on, FF!!!
Linebrink for Cy
July 17th, 2011
4:57 pm
don’t let Espinosa show you up Freddie!
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
Aw! Thanks a lot, Prado!!
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
Come on Fab 5 Freddie!!!!!!
He is due! We need a single!
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
Freddie be THE Man now !!!!!!!!
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
Just can’t get over Conrad there. What will be his answer if we lose this game?
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
McC will walk
fred
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
Freeeeemannn— Braves Win!!!!!!!!!!!
Eric
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
Let’s go Freddie . Make him throw strikes and make him pay. Walk off win
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
FREDDIE!!!
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
Freddie Freeman!
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
YUP !!!
BRAVOS WIN !!!!!!!
daniel buck
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
love it
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
FAB 5 FREDDIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BALLGAME!!!!!!!!!!!!
menlobrave
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
BALLGAME!
Bravefaninok
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
FREDDIEEEEEE
BFChris26
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
Braves Win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Freeman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TB bravesfan
July 17th, 2011
4:58 pm
oh yes
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
WOO HOOOOO!!
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
Come on Fab 5
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
sweet win !
Kat
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
We won!!
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
Come on, FF. Be like J-Hey was in the beginning of last year in these spots. You can do it, kid, you can do it!
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
FREDDIE!! YES!!!!
Great fight, boys!!
TNScott
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
FREDDIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LAG
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
I’ll give it to Nick… he at least got the final score right, numbers-wise.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
“Just can’t get over Conrad there. What will be his answer if we lose this game?”
Fortunately he’s now off the hook.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FAB 5 FREDDIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
btw …there is your NL ROY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JoeBrave
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
Fab Freddie!!!! KungPow
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
daniel buck
July 17th, 2011
4:59 pm
Lowe just hugged everyone and said his goodbyes….. Off to Detroit… HI HO HI HO….
ChrisfromSacramento,Ca
July 17th, 2011
5:00 pm
Yes!!!!
Tito
July 17th, 2011
5:00 pm
HELLLLLZZZZZ YEAH….Great comeback!
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
July 17th, 2011
5:00 pm
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
July 17th, 2011
4:47 pm
Here comes the walk off win!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
I love it when I’m right!!!! Winner , winner, Chicken dinner!
shmoe
July 17th, 2011
5:00 pm
holy frack, that was a great win.
so proud of mccann and freeman
O.J.
July 17th, 2011
5:00 pm
Who was the dumbass calling game over with 6 outs left?
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
5:00 pm
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
4:50 pm
Yesss!!! We Will Win This, Bank on it!!!
T-h – I make fun of you when you’re wrong, so it’s only appropriate to give you credit here…
Linebrink for Cy
July 17th, 2011
5:00 pm
Medlen!! You’re hurt!!! What are you doing in that pile?
Eric
July 17th, 2011
5:00 pm
Nice to see the kid get the walk off win. We needed this win. Now if not an can jump up and hit Freeman on the head he should be ready to pitch. We need him back in the bullpen.
cabravesfan
July 17th, 2011
5:01 pm
Ballgame
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
5:01 pm
daniel buck, i wish!!
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
5:01 pm
DAMN, that’s a good one to win!!
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
5:01 pm
Great win.
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:01 pm
Winner , winner, Chicken dinner! …
sounds tasty …
yes soon ! …
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
July 17th, 2011
5:01 pm
YO MITCHELL…….
SUCK ON IT!
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
5:02 pm
Our condolences, however, to Nick, for being wrong so many more times…
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
5:02 pm
Great comeback win!
fred
July 17th, 2011
5:02 pm
Hey Blue..fredi will not forget what Conrad and Schafer did..they will get a lesson in clubhouse office on base running.
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
5:02 pm
Ballgame!!!
Nick, I know you’re here. Take that!!!!! You would be blowing up the blog right about now but left speechless. Get ‘em next time Nick. I know this blog is more of a game for you then anything else.
daniel buck
July 17th, 2011
5:03 pm
I bet Lowe doesn’t make the start for us tomorrow…. He will be shipped out in a matter of hours
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
5:04 pm
“He will be shipped out in a matter of hours”
Who will we get in return?
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
July 17th, 2011
5:04 pm
Braves have such great celebrations.
Hey, did BMac get slugged in the nose or what?
fred
July 17th, 2011
5:04 pm
hope u right buck
Eric
July 17th, 2011
5:04 pm
Don’t know what happened there it should have read moylan should be ready to pitch if he can jump up and hit Freeman in the head same goes for medlen also.
Josh
July 17th, 2011
5:05 pm
Daniel Buck, please go away
John Leonard
July 17th, 2011
5:05 pm
Is this the worse base running team in Braves history?But love the win.Notice how Freeman took over cleanup?Not bad for a rok!
Billy
July 17th, 2011
5:06 pm
blue..it wil be Beltran
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
5:06 pm
good job Freddie.
O.J.
July 17th, 2011
5:07 pm
Just say no to Beltran
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
5:07 pm
Japan just tied the game 2-2.
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:07 pm
@ N Nineeeee …
+1
…all take care …off to savor a great come from behind (twice ! ) W …
GO Bravos …
Eric
July 17th, 2011
5:07 pm
Great comeback today, nice to win the series and keep pace with the Phils.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
5:07 pm
Was this our biggest comeback win of the year????
B-MACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You dropped the Bomb on Me!!!
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July 17th, 2011
5:07 pm
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T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
5:07 pm
Braves win! And without the help of any deer musk medication.
http://news.yahoo.com/nkoreans-musk-deer-meds-cause-failed-wcup-tests-213229644.html
Eric
July 17th, 2011
5:08 pm
Looks like it might be penalty kicks.
Mitchie-san
July 17th, 2011
5:08 pm
Two great games today!
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
5:08 pm
This win is on O’ventbrel again. Great work guys!!!!
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:09 pm
Powder Blue …wtf happened in germany !!?? …ugh !
Eric
July 17th, 2011
5:09 pm
Boy just missed a great opportunity from wammback
Eric
July 17th, 2011
5:10 pm
Free kick and a red card. Right outside the box.
Dumbfound
July 17th, 2011
5:10 pm
Enter your comments here
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:10 pm
Japan w/ a RED card …
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
5:10 pm
“Powder Blue …wtf happened in germany !!?? …ugh !”
Heckuva game.
N Nineeeee
July 17th, 2011
5:10 pm
More people need to “like” O’ventbrel fb page!!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/OVentbrel/187542134632216
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
5:11 pm
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
“YO MITCHELL…….
SUCK ON IT!”
Ouch! As Much as I rip the team on here, at least I celebrate the wins!
Where is Mitchellm At? Come on Man? We Need Ya
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:11 pm
knock in USA !!!!!!!
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
5:12 pm
Tomahawkin,
You’re missing a great soccer game.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
5:12 pm
N Nineeeee
Post that on “Braves Fans of D.O.B.’s Blog” Facebook group?
You will see all the bloggers on there
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:12 pm
Powder Blue @ 5:10 …
INDEED !
Dumbfound
July 17th, 2011
5:13 pm
what is wrong with the usa women ?!
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
5:14 pm
Powder Blue!
I rather watch Womens Wimbleton or Womens college Softball than Soccer
Soccer is as boring as NASCAR to watch on TV
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
5:14 pm
Dumbfound – it’s Fredi’s fault…
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:14 pm
PK’s in Germany !!!
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
5:15 pm
Softball? Really?
Dumbfound
July 17th, 2011
5:15 pm
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
5:14 pm
Dumbfound – it’s Fredi’s fault…
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
5:16 pm
Soccer sux.
Dumbfound
July 17th, 2011
5:17 pm
damn !
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:17 pm
NCAA softball ..yup !! … RTR !!
SEC rules of course !
damn USA missed !
Eric
July 17th, 2011
5:17 pm
Save by Japan ruh roh.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
5:17 pm
So who would Detroit have that we would be interested in and would be reasonable?
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
5:17 pm
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
5:00 pm
Tomahawkin
[Yesss!!! We Will Win This, Bank on it!!!]
“T-h – I make fun of you when you’re wrong, so it’s only appropriate to give you credit here…”
lol
Just don’t take my posts so seriously? Capiche? Your cool bro
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
5:17 pm
That one was too easy.
Dumbfound
July 17th, 2011
5:17 pm
Is this for the gold ?!
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:17 pm
USA down 1 PK …ugh !!!!!!!!!!
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:18 pm
wtf !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
5:18 pm
Ballgame…
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
5:18 pm
Yikes.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
5:18 pm
I’d rather watch softball too T’h, ….or grass growing…. or paint drying….
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:18 pm
guess that’s it for USA …
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
5:18 pm
It’s for the Championship…
Mike
July 17th, 2011
5:19 pm
Womens soccer team is choking in normal US soccer fashion
Eric
July 17th, 2011
5:19 pm
Let’s go hope solo.
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2011
5:19 pm
Screw Soccer I’m Watching old WWF In Your House, Ken Shamrock VS HBK Shawn Michaels
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
5:19 pm
Implosion.
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
5:19 pm
I can’t believe they’re deciding the World Cup on penalty kicks.
Mike
July 17th, 2011
5:19 pm
Girls cant even get in one single goal
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
July 17th, 2011
5:19 pm
The chances of Derek Lowe getting traded in the next 24 hours??????
ZERO.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
5:20 pm
Stayin’ alive.
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:21 pm
Abby ..of course !
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:21 pm
do or die
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
5:21 pm
Dang.
Mike
July 17th, 2011
5:21 pm
Losers
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
5:21 pm
Penalty kicks are the perfect way to decide the World Cup when you win – not so much when you lose…
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
5:22 pm
Gotta’ get some work done. Night, all.
Lew
July 17th, 2011
5:22 pm
Speculation on who might replace Lowe in the rotation should he be traded – no one mentions him, but don’t look now. Cristhian Martinez has started two games at Gwinnett, gone five in one and six in the second, has a 2.45 ERA, struck out twelve and walked just one.
BamaDude @ #1CowCollege AL
July 17th, 2011
5:22 pm
nice run for Japan !! nice for them …sorta
Snotboogie
July 17th, 2011
5:22 pm
I’ve been wondering about that nolie. Their top 10 prospects lists are very similar to ours – lots of pitchers and a couple of IFs thrown in. They have this one OF – Daniel Fields – who might be in their top 5 and hence not an even exchange for the big salary going that way. If we eat some of his salary, then it’s possible we get one of those borderline top 10 guys. How does that sound?
Ward
July 17th, 2011
5:22 pm
So much for that! Congradjulations to Japan……………
Mike
July 17th, 2011
5:23 pm
This is why soccer will never become popular here. Because our teams aren’t good, and when they are, they choke when it matters most.
O.J.
July 17th, 2011
5:23 pm
Soccer, a real sport, sucks, but WWE, as fake as it gets, doesn’t for you. Wow.
Eric
July 17th, 2011
5:23 pm
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O.J.
July 17th, 2011
5:24 pm
Mike, soccer is very popular in the states.
Ward
July 17th, 2011
5:24 pm
Anybody want to take a guess, who the big bat will be. After Lowe is traded?
Eric
July 17th, 2011
5:24 pm
Choke job by USA women, what a upset in the soccer world.
Snotboogie
July 17th, 2011
5:25 pm
I can’t believe they’re deciding the World Cup on penalty kicks.
How else do you propose they do it after 120 minutes?
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
5:25 pm
Pujols??
Ward
July 17th, 2011
5:25 pm
Japan was just better! They should’ve won. USA did well,but Japan better!
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
July 17th, 2011
5:26 pm
The number one sport on the planet?
SOCCER.
And here in America….all but ignored.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
July 17th, 2011
5:27 pm
Only thing is if they get another bat, where is he gonna play? Can’t be left, ’cause that’s where Prado goes when Chipper comes back, and all the other spots are filled as well. Much as Gonzalez cann bug me with his bat sometimes, I’d hate to lose that glove…
Venice Jim
July 17th, 2011
5:27 pm
Sb- I would prefer the OT be sudden death…
Linebrink for Cy
July 17th, 2011
5:27 pm
“And here in America….all but ignored”
yep, a few days ago i didn’t even know they were playing and tomorrow I doubt I’ll even remember who won
Snotboogie
July 17th, 2011
5:28 pm
The chances of Derek Lowe getting traded in the next 24 hours??????
ZERO.
Why only 24hrs? I thought you were sure he wouldnt be traded at all!! Looks like you have begun your backtracking. Hmmm….
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
July 17th, 2011
5:30 pm
The most viable bat the Tigers have that we could use……Jhonny Peralta.
He’s their young short stop and I just don’t see it happening.
Linebrink for Cy
July 17th, 2011
5:30 pm
From Yahoo’s Second Half Stories to watch:
Craig Kimbrel, the Atlanta rookie whose manager is pushing the bounds of good sense. Fredi Gonzalez uses Kimbrel and Jonny Venters often because they’re so dominant. So was Billy Koch in 2002, when Oakland ran him out 84 times. He pitched two more seasons and was out of baseball at 30. Koch is the only closer in the last 25 years to pitch in more games than the 83 Kimbrel is on pace to throw. At 23, Kimbrel should have a long career ahead. Hopefully he’s built with one of those freakish arms that can hold up under the punishment most are no longer seasoned to withstand
Justin
July 17th, 2011
5:30 pm
Hey good job guys. Good job.
Mitchie-san
July 17th, 2011
5:30 pm
Too bad most Americans minds are already made up when it comes to soccer. That was an excellent game with a dramatic finish. Lots of people missed out. Im not a huge soccer fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the World Cup (men or women) is great to watch.
Mike
July 17th, 2011
5:31 pm
I could never do this. Call me a sore loser, but the last thing I would want to do after losing a HUGE game like the world cup is to stay on the field while the other team gets honored. I would be sad and pissed and would want to get somewhere by myself as soon as possible to calm down. I couldnt do it.
Snotboogie
July 17th, 2011
5:31 pm
Sb- I would prefer the OT be sudden death…
That’s quite merciless – not you but the format. The did employ the golden goal for a few years and it seemed like a terrible let down. I prefer the penalties instead – atleast gives both teams a decent chance.
O.J.
July 17th, 2011
5:32 pm
Exactly what I was thinking McFann. There is no where to play another bat. What, center? You give up prospects to get a guy that might only be here for the rest of this year? No way, don’t need another Tex deal. Just trade Lowe to free up salary and use that money in the offseason to upgrade at ss.
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
July 17th, 2011
5:32 pm
Snotboogie, hmmmmm.
Seems as if you can’t interpret english, much less baseball.
Snotboogie
July 17th, 2011
5:33 pm
Im not a huge soccer fan by any stretch of the imagination, but the World Cup (men or women) is great to watch.
I think you will enjoy European leagues particularly the English premier league even more,then. The action in WCs tend to be a lot less than league and cup games.
Mike
July 17th, 2011
5:34 pm
O.J.
You would call soccer popular?…in the USA????
Ward
July 17th, 2011
5:34 pm
USA Soccer has improved. Just needs to improve a little better. It was a good game,and quite intertaining…..
Ward
July 17th, 2011
5:35 pm
At least it wasn’t the Russians winning it! small joke…..
groundfog
July 17th, 2011
5:36 pm
The world Cup is hugely popular but it’s more of a patriotic thing. I was at the bars and they were all packed last year going crazy. As far the sport, I doubt many in the USA can even explain what offsides is.
Tom
July 17th, 2011
5:36 pm
This is for you Joseph,just to let you know I have not forgotten you. In today(Sunday) KC game, Melky got 2 more hits, his BA still at .295 and our boy Frenchy had 2 hits, including 2-run HR, which raises his HR total to 13 and RBI total to 58! Oh, I almost forgot about the more pressure thing in ATL than KC. My guess his Heyward probably could not do any better in KC. Just my humble opinion!
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
July 17th, 2011
5:37 pm
The chances of Derek Lowe playing in a Tigers uniform between now and the trading deadline?
ZERO. The reasons why are rather obvious to me, but I really don’t have the time to explain it to those who would rather argue with sound reasoning.
Snotboogie
July 17th, 2011
5:37 pm
As far the sport, I doubt many in the USA can even explain what offsides is.
That thing has been muddled so much in recent times, I wonder if a lot of the refs themselves understand it completely.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
5:38 pm
almost gotta be a center fielder if it happens at all. maybe a shortstop. hard to imagine anything else
Dumbfound
July 17th, 2011
5:39 pm
And how is this for irony ? The Braves have a 4 game set with the Rockies, And the Phillies have a 4 game set with the cubs.
That ain’t right ! 
Mitchie-san
July 17th, 2011
5:39 pm
You are right, Mr. Boogie. In my world travels I have found a pub or two (surprise) and watched games with the locals and Ex-Pats. They can be lots of fun if you give em a chance. Gotta have a decent attention span though. I can see why some people get bored waiting on a goal. Kinda like the baseball fans who only want to see homeruns and dont get into the aspect of the whole game.
O.J.
July 17th, 2011
5:39 pm
Coach, how can you honestly sit there and say ZERO chance when the Tigers themselves said they are interested in Lowe
groundfog
July 17th, 2011
5:39 pm
Coach if someone is dumb enough to take Lowe’s contract than all power to the Braves if they can deal him. I imagine it’s more artifical interest that’s being created. Lowe did step it up last year and got us in the playoffs. He is a big game pitcher, he showed that last year.
John Leonard
July 17th, 2011
5:40 pm
Nolee: Think Lowe is gone?
Ward
July 17th, 2011
5:40 pm
noleeee: I say Bourn from Astros,and Jeff Keppinger……
Hugo Z Hackenbush
July 17th, 2011
5:41 pm
The Tigers have a ss/2b/3b at AAA named Argenis Diaz. Might be a fluke, but his OBP this year has taken an astounding leap to .378. Rather see him than Lugo on the bench.
Snotboogie
July 17th, 2011
5:42 pm
The reasons why are rather obvious to me, but I really don’t have the time to explain it to those who would rather argue with sound reasoning.
Okay, then.
Crestfallen
July 17th, 2011
5:42 pm
Dave, is there any talk among the higher ups in the organization about Heyward’s disappearing act? Surely the keen baseball minds of the Braves management have a better insight into exactly what is going on with the struggling phenom. Is there a hole in his swing? Is he soft? Does he work and practice hard? Does he put in extra time like Prado? Does he have a drinking problem (hey, who knows)? I’m just want the player who punished the baseball on a nightly basis a year ago back.
John Leonard
July 17th, 2011
5:42 pm
Hey Ward! Were are you blogging from?
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
5:43 pm
Might be a fluke, but his OBP this year has taken an astounding leap to .378. Hugo
astounding leaps are always suspect. I’d rather not see that deal happen for Lowe
Ward
July 17th, 2011
5:44 pm
My home in Montana………
O.J.
July 17th, 2011
5:45 pm
Dumbfound, what irony? The Braves swept the Rockies in a four game set not too long ago.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
5:45 pm
My first thought in no on Lowe going John, but that is nothing more than a hunch, who knows?
John Leonard
July 17th, 2011
5:46 pm
Have a place outside of Helena.
John Leonard
July 17th, 2011
5:48 pm
I just don’t know,I hope I’m wrong ,but I think he’s done.He lives in Fort Myers, and him and his wife are thougt highly of.
Ward
July 17th, 2011
5:48 pm
Lowe is done! He’s gone…….
Dumbfound
July 17th, 2011
5:49 pm
O.J.
July 17th, 2011
5:45 pm
Dumbfound, what irony? The Braves swept the Rockies in a four game set not too long ago.
I only say that in meaning Coors field has been a nightmare for the Braves the last 10 years ! But look at who the Phillies play !
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
July 17th, 2011
5:50 pm
O.J.
July 17th, 2011
5:39 pm
Coach, how can you honestly sit there and say ZERO chance when the Tigers themselves said they are interested in Lowe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Don’t believe anything you read and only half of what you see. I don’t.
John Leonard
July 17th, 2011
5:53 pm
Its offical Ward has spoken.Oh Ward ,some lady named Kat was posting the same as you about Agon.She posted a lot yesterday,and seemed pretty sharp.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
5:53 pm
ever spend any time in the Missouri Breaks or the Absaroka or Beartooth Mts, ward?
Ward
July 17th, 2011
5:54 pm
Coach: You still believe the Braves are good when they lose…..
Hugo Z Hackenbush
July 17th, 2011
5:55 pm
Actually, I think Detroit would have to be a little crazy to trade for Lowe at all.
Ward
July 17th, 2011
5:56 pm
noleeee: Spent time in Bolivar Missouri for a bout a1and 1/2. way back in 1997.
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
5:57 pm
How else do you propose they do it after 120 minutes?
Do you really feel that deciding the World Cup, which really is inclusive of the entire world, by having four players from each side take point blank kicks on goal?
That’s like deciding the Basketball Olympics by shooting free throws or the World Series by a Home Run Derby.
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
July 17th, 2011
5:57 pm
Our Braves as presently constructed are on pace to win between 93-96 games, which all but guarantees a wild card berth. They also have a 5.5 game lead in the wild card chase.
So why try fixing what isn’t broken…..it makes ZERO SENSE. but then again this is a blog where common sense is all but rejected by most.
John Leonard
July 17th, 2011
5:58 pm
Well I’m going to take a nap, so I can catch Ward on the flip side.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
5:59 pm
Montana is beautiful country.
Buzz me
July 17th, 2011
6:01 pm
see ya Derek!
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:02 pm
I don’t care what pace they are on, I’d replace Schafer/McLouth with a proven bat in a NY minute if we could find a long term solution.Heck I’m even starting to get interested in Cain for cripes sake
Ward
July 17th, 2011
6:02 pm
If Wren makes a trade? I wont be on the flip side…….
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
6:03 pm
Dang, that was a tough pitch that Mac hit out!
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
6:04 pm
Yeah, don’t try to improve. Makes no sense at all. If they don’t, great. If they can improve this year and get rid of Lowe’s contract? Even better.
BraveLifer
July 17th, 2011
6:04 pm
Just heard on XM radio that talks between Braves-Tigers are heating up regarding Derek Lowe. Saying a deal could be struck as soon as early-mid week. Sounds more of a way to relieve his big contract than anything, obviously.
Also sounds to me Braves have an eye on a higher priced hitter to acquire.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
6:06 pm
Surprised J-Hey didn’t stay in the game after pinch hitting. Fredi normally does that.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
6:06 pm
BraveLifer, did you really hear that?
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:08 pm
So Wilkin got a coupla games in a row and did ok. That’s good to see
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:09 pm
WE could likely do ok without Lowe
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
6:10 pm
Do you really feel that deciding the World Cup, which really is inclusive of the entire world, by having four players from each side take point blank kicks on goal?
Doesn’t make sense to me, either. I like the NHL’s format–sudden death OT for as long as it takes.
BraveLifer
July 17th, 2011
6:11 pm
JasonInFL, yeah, but come on now. It’s trade time, so any and everybody might just tweek reality a bit here and there to pump up interest. Big name guys like Olney and Rosenthal(most times) are guys you might stop and take it to heart. IF it’s true than I think like probably most here that a higher priced hitter comes our way.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
July 17th, 2011
6:13 pm
Forget that penalty kick crap. I like rock,paper,scissors.
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
6:13 pm
I think everyone of you so called “fans” ragging on nate through the first 8 innings of this game need to apologise.
BraveLifer
July 17th, 2011
6:16 pm
You do have to wonder if a team has interest in our highest paid. Least effective pitcher that our GM will jump all over it, right? Makes perfect sense. That is IF the Tigers are as interested as some are leading on. Honestly, who’d want him and his contract? Gotta be pretty desperate imo.
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
6:17 pm
Nates OPS this year is .688. It isnt that bad at all and well above schafer/uggla/agon. Yet you all seem to rag on him for some reason. Well, he showed you today.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:18 pm
Wilkin is OPSing 996. all we gotta do is play him every day
BraveLifer
July 17th, 2011
6:18 pm
Dang my first sentence got all screwy. Shoulda been a comma, not a period. Blackberry’s and the little itty bitty buttons do that sometimes.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
6:19 pm
On the MLB shows on XM…I think they are also a little careful to just not spew anything and everything. I could be completely wrong. But, I wouldn’t be surprised if talks were heating up.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:21 pm
Thome nearing 600 dingers. First ballot HOFer?
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
6:22 pm
what’s DOB’s twitter address
Ragworts
July 17th, 2011
6:22 pm
ILoVEBIGPeNIS
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:25 pm
ESPN breaks down the GMs at tradin’ time
NATIONAL LEAGUE EAST
Club: Philadelphia Phillies
GM: Ruben Amaro
Style: Wins. Has traded or signed the best starting rotation in baseball while keeping the offensive nucleus together. Cares about the future as much as the present. A deal-maker who is honest and up front. Pat Gillick gets inducted into the Hall of Fame this week, his predecessor in Philadelphia has picked up where he left off.
Phillies last two years at the trade deadline
7/29/10: Acquired Roy Oswalt from Houston in exchange for Anthony Gose, Jonathan Villar and J.A. Happ.
7/29/09: Acquired Cliff Lee and Ben Francisco from Cleveland in exchange for Carlos Carrasco, Jason Knapp, Jason Donald and Lou Marson.
Club: Atlanta Braves
GM: Frank Wren
Style: First-class individual who continues the legacy of team president, John Schuerholz. Starting pitching and bullpen the key to the Braves success. The deal for Dan Uggla was huge this offseason and should pay dividends in the second half. Has not made a “Fred McGriff” type deal at a deadline yet, but knows how to build benches and bullpens already at championship levels. Trades for bats at every deadline, this year shouldn’t be any different.
Braves last two years at the trade deadline
7/31/10: Acquired Rick Ankiel and Kyle Farnsworth from Kansas City in exchange for Gregor Blanco, Jesse Chavez and Tim Collins.
7/14/10: Acquired Alex Gonzalez, Tim Collins and Tyler Pastornicky from Toronto in exchange for Yunel Escobar and Jo-Jo Reyes.
7/31/09: Acquired Adam LaRoche from Boston in exchange for Casey Kotchman.
7/10/09: Acquired Ryan Church from the New York Mets for Jeff Francoeur.
6/3/09: Acquired Nate McLouth from Pittsburgh for Charlie Morton, Gorkys Hernandez and Jeff Locke.
Club: Washington Nationals
GM: Mike Rizzo
Style: Deal-maker who made the best deal among “sellers” last year at the deadline in the acquisition of Wilson Ramos from Minnesota. Good evaluator of talent and yet still relies heavily on his top cabinet staff in particular, scouting director, Kris Kline. Will work deals persistently and has a knack of knowing when to close.
Nationals last two years at the trade deadline
7/30/10: Traded Cristian Guzman to Texas for Ryan Tatusko and Tanner Roark.
7/29/10: Traded Matt Capps and cash to Minnesota in exchange for Wilson Ramos and Joe Testa.
6/30/09: Traded Joel Hanrahan and Lastings Milledge to Pittsburgh for Sean Burnett and Nyjer Morgan.
Club: New York Mets
GM: Sandy Alderson
Style: Military. Legal. Methodical. Professional. First class. Always looks at the big picture.
Mets last two years at the trade deadline
7/12/11: Traded Francisco Rodriguez and cash to the Brewers for two players to be named later.
7/30/10: Omar Minaya was the GM and he traded Mike Jacobs to Toronto for a player to be named later.
7/10/09: Omar Minaya was the GM and he traded Ryan Church to the Braves for Jeff Francoeur.
Club: Florida Marlins
GMs: Larry Beinfest and Mike Hill
Style: Team work with owner Jeff Loria, president David Samson and assistant GM Dan Jennings. The group of five are aggressive, intelligent and scouting oriented. Highly respected for their drafts and their financial bottom-line accomplishments despite embarrassing attendance figures. Not huge players at the trade deadline.
Marlins last two years at the trade deadline
7/31/10: Traded Rick Vanden Hurk to Baltimore for Will Ohman.
7/29/10: Traded Jorge Cantu to Texas for Evan Reed and Omar Poveda.
7/31/09: Traded Aaron Thompson to Washington for Nick Johnson
Kat
July 17th, 2011
6:25 pm
JasonInFL .. https://twitter.com/ajcbraves
Billy
July 17th, 2011
6:27 pm
Lowe will be traded to unload his contract, not for a big name player.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:28 pm
Trades for bats at every deadline, this year shouldn’t be any different re Wren
Heath
July 17th, 2011
6:29 pm
Wonder if the deal will indeed be centered around Ordonez and Lowe? Braves free up $5M on a straight up deal and I think Ordonez’s contract is up at the end of the year. His season stats are not great, but for July (before today’s game), he is hitting .294/4R/6RBI/4BB. He adds to those numbers today going 1 for 2 with a 2B, a BB, and a R. Maybe we get him and both he and Uggla both have bounce-back second halves and our offense is a good as we all hoped? Any chances of that?
CB
July 17th, 2011
6:29 pm
The way a trade of Lowe works with the Tigers is Braves pays half of this year’s remaining salary and a portion of next year’s salary,Tigers would give a bench player or a good prospect. 3 million savings this year could be paid toward any other trades made.
ncscoots
July 17th, 2011
6:30 pm
yeah, seems obvious that the major “Dip” in his swing causes him spring out of his swing causing him to swing over the top. I can only assume he has been told but refuses to make an adjustment.
Proving once again that watching TV is a really, really bad way to analyze swing mechanics.
You know, I can’t help it. I see a game like today’s and some evil forces me to go back and look at the mid-game this-team-blows comments. I guess there’s upside to that, though; helps me flesh out my list of stupy maroons, thus allowing me to scroll past numerous future comments that I might otherwise waste eight seconds of my life reading.
CB
July 17th, 2011
6:32 pm
Heath,I brought that up this morning and was met with not much enthusiasm.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:33 pm
cripes Ordonez is almost as old as Scoots, ain’t he?
Hugo Z Hackenbush
July 17th, 2011
6:33 pm
Well Nolee, you’re the one who brought this up. Who do you want from Detroit? Speak now or forever hold your peace.
CB
July 17th, 2011
6:34 pm
And half as old as nolie.
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
6:35 pm
Where exactly would Ordonez play??
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
6:35 pm
Heath – I mentioned the Magglio idea last night without looking at salary. We actually would have to take on $$$ in a Lowe for Mags deal.
So it ain’t happening and he has some weird contract where he’s guaranteed big dollars next year if he’s traded or something.
All I know – is I thought about it too. But where in the hell do we put him??? I think we’ll be able to do much better with the freed up money from Lowe’s contract. We get low level prospects for him in the deal…maybe an BP arm or something and get salary relief. We’ll probbaly have to eat some of the contract…but not much…if we have to eat a lot of the contract….why trade him.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:35 pm
not sue I think Lowe should be traded just to dump salary at this point unless they have another deal in the works. He’s not special but you can never have too much pitching available in a pennant race
Heath
July 17th, 2011
6:36 pm
CB -
I am neither stating that I am for, or against it. Just saying that it does free up $5M this year and all of Lowe’s $15M next year. Plus, Ordonez could be an ideal righty/lefty platoon guy since he really isn’t able to play every day anymore.
I would like to do better than that, but it might be the best way to offload Lowe’s salary.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:37 pm
I brought it up? hum. I’m getting worse that I thought I was.
ncscoots
July 17th, 2011
6:37 pm
cripes Ordonez is almost as old as Scoots, ain’t he?
I’m pretty sure he lied about his age when he first signed, yes.
And he still can’t hit my curveball.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:38 pm
but he cain’t play center Heath which is where we neeed a platooner
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
6:40 pm
Thanks, Kat.
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
6:42 pm
Yeah, Lowe’s not just a salary dump right now. They can do that in November if they really want to. They’ll either getting something of consequence back or they have another contract they want to take on.
Ragworts
July 17th, 2011
6:43 pm
Best trade scenarios:
Derek lowe + 6mil for magglio ordonez
jj Hoover + mike minor for bj upton
Mycal jones + Jairo ascensio for infante
Hugo Z Hackenbush
July 17th, 2011
6:43 pm
It was either you or someone who looks a lot like you who asked at 5:17, “Who does Detroit have that we would be interested in?”
Ralph
July 17th, 2011
6:44 pm
Time to bench Rameriz, he’s starting to make our outfield look respectful, can’t have that can we.
Bravefaninok
July 17th, 2011
6:44 pm
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
6:35 pm
Heath – I mentioned the Magglio idea last night without looking at salary. We actually would have to take on $$$ in a Lowe for Mags deal.
Actually according to cots baseball contracts Maglio is on a straight 1 yr 10 mil. contract. will be a FA in 12.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:45 pm
I thought it was interesting that ESPN said that Wren always trades for a bat and listed the Escobar for Gonzales trade as an example
CB
July 17th, 2011
6:45 pm
NSSteve, Ordonez is a free agent next year, not sure where you got the other info at. Heath,the 5 mil savings would be proportionally for the rest of season. Hey, I understand the shortcomings of this trade. I would actually prefer Casper Wells if Detroit would take on a part of Lowe’s salary.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
6:45 pm
This is our first juicy rumor of the season. At least it makes for some good bloggin when there isn’t Braves baseball on….
I like Lowe. Always have – so i’m good either way things shake down. I will admit the elephant in the room – I think we need to improve our offense.
There still seems to be too many easy out in our line-up. I really like AGON but I have no confidence in him at all this year at the dish. McLouth still isn’t hitting consistently or Heyward for that matter…
I’m over looking Uggla here because he has looked much better and maybe he’s turned the corner…his average will be sh*t this year but let’s look at the HR and RBI and the end of the season and I think his numbers will be there….
Not sure what my point is here…but thank the lord Freddie Freeman has produced over and above what I think anyone expected. He’s been large lately can’t say enough about how much that has helped the team.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:48 pm
Lowe plus 6 mil for a crippled old man hitting 218/288/298.
FCS we have a whole slew of guys who can do that why in the world would we pay to add another?
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
6:48 pm
Lowe has a losing record and an ERA approaching 4.50… why not trade him?? What they get in return is meaningless, it’s the salary relief that is important. $15 million will help a lot in building next years team, plus, we don’t have to watch Lowe labor through 5 innings of 8 hits and 4 runs anymore. It’s a win, win.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
6:48 pm
Don’t you guys think that the Lowe move would be simply to clear salary to get a hitter? I don’t think they are looking to get anything back to help this year’s team. Maybe a cheap bullpen arm. But, if they do it, it will be about salary to make another move and to clear him from next year’s payroll.
Heath
July 17th, 2011
6:49 pm
CB -
True, the $5M would be for a whole year… I didn’t take that in to consideration. But even $2.5M relief this year and all of Lowe’s salary next year is great in my mind.
TennesseePaul
July 17th, 2011
6:50 pm
Atl the pub. Watched the Braves win it. Watch USA choke it up. A bitter sweet day. I’m a loyal baseball fan so it was sweeter than it was bitter. Those USA girls though put up a fight. Hell of a match. I started remembering why I played soccer in my youth watching that game. Too bad they lost.
GO BRAVES!!
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:50 pm
Hugo, yeah but that was in response to others quoting the supposed news about talks. and it was an honest question. I have no idea who we would be interested in from them, but I sure wouldn’t pick Ordonez.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
6:51 pm
If its CF that we’re improving via trade who’s the odd man out???
Can’t see anyone taking McLouth’s contract. Schafer has some nice trade value now – more than he’s had in the last two years anyway – does he get moved??
We can’t keep em all unless FW totally takes us by surprise but I can’t see who else he’d move from our team…
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
6:51 pm
NSS….please tell me what it is about Lowe that you like?? Over 4 ERA?? 82 MPH fastball??
ace
July 17th, 2011
6:52 pm
a corner OF rental makes some sense IMO, if it happens now. To replace Nate in LF now and then so we can use Prado at 3B some down the stretch to keep from over using Chipper. And we can afford a veteran making some bucks if it’s Lowe who is dealt. I’m betting Wren also includes a pitching prospect in a Lowe deal in exchange for a AAA SS or CF prospect. Not too soon to put a chip in place for 2012 at those spots. Deal within 48 hrs I think (hope)
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
6:52 pm
I’m over looking Uggla here because he has looked much better
Last 28 days, 76 ABs at a .836 OPS
David O'Brien
July 17th, 2011
6:52 pm
I’m told that no offers have been made yet, either by other teams for Lowe or by Braves for a bat. But interest in Lowe is there from Tigers, for certain, and perhaps at least one other team. Teams including Braves still kicking the tires, figuring things out. Could be another week before anything happens. But we’ll see. Sometimes offers get juiced up and things happen quicker than expected.
Bravefaninok
July 17th, 2011
6:53 pm
Considering the history of trades between Atl and Detroit,FW will probly get Porcello and A Jackson for DLowe straight up…..
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:53 pm
Schafer has some nice trade value now – more than he’s had in the last two years anyway
you must think that other GMs are idiots if you think any of them would give up anything to get a 600 OPSing CFer who has been crap for 3 years now. If they think of him at all it would be as a possible Braves DFA
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
6:54 pm
Pitching: Hammel is 2-4 with a 5.67 ERA in his past eight starts, and 3-6 with a 4.92 ERA and nine homers allowed in 10 home starts this season. Against the Braves, he’s 0-2 with a 9.53 ERA in four career starts. Against Hammel, Jason Heyward is 5-for-5, Eric Hinske is 4-for-6, and Martin Prado is 4-for-6 with a homer.
Give Jordan a game off tomorrow, put Nate in CF, and Hinske in LF? Nate just had a day off, so that’s why I chose Logan. Not starting the whole Nate/Logan debate again…
Heath
July 17th, 2011
6:54 pm
Oh, and a true CF does not have to be our target… a RH OF that upgrades our 4-outfielder rotation would be fine.
IVAN ...
July 17th, 2011
6:54 pm
Where the h e l l is ‘Mitchell’ who was b i t c h i n g that we couldn’t come from behind to win …..
A $ $-Hat.
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
6:55 pm
nolie, no way Schafer is a DFA candidate. He’s been bad but he’s not to that point by any stretch of the imagination.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
6:55 pm
DOB, any guesses as to who the Bravos are targeting for a bat? Of course, I guess if you did, you would have already posted them. (smile)
BravesfansinNC
July 17th, 2011
6:56 pm
We should not trade Myke jones
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:56 pm
Mitchell always skips out when he is wrong. One of the things I don’t like him for.
JasonInFL
July 17th, 2011
6:57 pm
Oh, and those stats were from DOB’s series preview…not my work.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
6:57 pm
600 OPS? I think he will be lucky to be here next season if that continues Steve. That is horrendous hitting even now.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
6:57 pm
no way Schafer is a DFA candidate.
Steve, do you know what the sitauation is with Shafe’s options? Am I correct that he is out after this year?
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
7:00 pm
T for Texas–I haven’t a clue. Been out of the loop for so long I haven’t been following!
nolie–Still, there’s room to grow. He’s no sure thing to reach his potential but he’s surely not done by any stretch either. If the Braves can’t find a long-term answer for CF he’ll be there next year. He may be there anyway.
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:00 pm
Honestly if we trade lowe then it should be for bullpen help and to dump salary. We arent going to get the elite CF led off man we need by trading lowe. That will take one of our young pitchers. I dont see that we need a corner outfielder. Where will prado play if we get a corner outfielder? We need a CF or bullpen help.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
7:00 pm
njbraves – No problem.
Lowe is a big game pitcher. He’s one of the best in the business and I think that’s a huge asset to have on your club.
Plus he’s NEVER been on the DL in his life. NEVER. He takes the ball every five days no questions asked and his arm bonces back like no other.
In additon, he’s been a great mentor to guys like Medlen and Hanson and a great clubhouse guy – these are facts. You can’t simply replace a guy like Derek Lowe. Yeah maybe someone can come in with a lower ERA and get more K’s but some things you can’t replace.
And I won’t forget what that man did in September or in October. With any run support he win’s both NLDS games.
That’s what I like about Lowe to answer your question.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:01 pm
the guy has GOT to start showing some evidence that he can hit in the majors, and so far he has not. I’m disappointed in that since he does play a pretty decent center field. But he is supposedly healthy now and is still hitting like crap.Two more months of that is gonna seriously jeopardize his standing with the Braves
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
7:01 pm
I think he’s definitely got a spot as a 4th outfielder, anyway, if he’s not traded.
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
7:03 pm
Don’t get me wrong nolie, I haven’t liked what I’ve seen so far with the stick but I’ve seen flashes every now and then. However, I’ve really liked every other facet of his game. Plays great D, runs the bases well and has a great arm.
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:04 pm
The facts are that Schafer has done ok recently. The phillies series really showed him up though. He hasnt played vs tough sides (him being called up was same time the braves had an easy schedule) though. So if his OPS is .610 vs low sides then we really cant afford to have him hitting lead off in the playoffs. I hope he turns it around, but I cant see it happening because he seems brain dead.
BravesfansinNC
July 17th, 2011
7:05 pm
If Schafer is indeed about to be out of options after this year.Then we should move him at the deadline . And as far as Lowe goes if we get the Tigers to take on all if not most of his contract even if we don’t get anything good in return then we should move Lowe and go after either after BJ Upton or Hunter Pence.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:05 pm
They need to get a decent CFer now or during the winter. we often only use one real 4th OFer, do we really want it to be a guy who hits 600?
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:05 pm
Can you imagine in the NLCS schafer leading off vs lee, hamels and halladay. HE would go 0 for 12 just like he did in the phillies series recently
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
7:06 pm
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2011/07/17/postgame-quotes-following-braves-walkoff-win-over-nats-on-sunday/
postgame quotes are up y’all! DOB will be taking over from Colorado…..Catch ya later!
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:06 pm
Bravesfan: we cant move schafer. Who is going to take a guy hitting .230 in AAA and with an OPS of .600 in the majors?
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:06 pm
ok I’m off of Schafer
Ward
July 17th, 2011
7:06 pm
CB: I would take Casper Wells for Lowe. Just to get rid of him…….
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:07 pm
Oh and Schafer has a questionable temperament.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:07 pm
have a good week Carroll. Thank you again.
sfbllump
July 17th, 2011
7:07 pm
The Detroit Daily News has nothing about the Tigers trading for Lowe. The bloggers
are not discussing the possibility of trading for Lowe.
Ward
July 17th, 2011
7:08 pm
Rockies own us in Coors Field…………..
Nova Scotia Steve
July 17th, 2011
7:08 pm
Thanks Carroll!
Appreciate your efforts!!!
Carroll Rogers
July 17th, 2011
7:08 pm
I think that dude stretched that one out a little too much, keylargo, but thanks for thinking of me (smile)
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
7:08 pm
Dang, Steve. Can you then tell me what is the first recommended course of treatment for tonsillitis?
Anyway I am pretty sure the consensus the other day is that he only has one more trip to Gwinnett left in him before having to clear waivers.
But, I guess it doesn’t matter about Schafer’s options, as I have him being sent to KC along with Minor and a minor league reliever for Lorenzo Cain. And as I am never wrong, that of course is bound to happen.
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:09 pm
Lowe is clutch in October and has a good record vs the phillies. I really wouldnt trade him untill the winter.
Ward
July 17th, 2011
7:11 pm
Not drinking the Lowe Kool-Aide sorry!
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:11 pm
Wow texas thaT is way too much to give up for cain.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:11 pm
Just don’t see us matching up all that well with Detroit, but who knows? Wren likes to surprise.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:12 pm
yeah I agree that is too much for Cain who is unproven in the bigs
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:13 pm
I would give up minor for cain though. Straight swap. Maybe if they rate schafer we could throw him in to clinch the deal.
Shakey
July 17th, 2011
7:13 pm
Just got home from the game, and I have a question for anyone that was there: Was the organist playing Dire Strait’s “Money for Nothing” when Werth came to the plate? Does that mean what I think it does?
Ward
July 17th, 2011
7:13 pm
B.J. Upton, is on the trade block. Braves were interested in him last year?High priced though……
CB
July 17th, 2011
7:14 pm
T,if you are never wrong Wren will be terminated. LOL
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
7:14 pm
No saying I think it is a good trade, Blankster, just that it is going to happen. LOL
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
7:15 pm
NSS…..Fair enough, I’m just not a Lowe fan, never have been. I’m sure he’s been helpful to the young guys, but Huddy can also do that, and as a bonus, Huddy actually wins games. Lowe has had som great post seasons, no doubt about that. I just think that Minor could make the rest of Lowe’s starts for the year and the Braves would be no worse off. Then in the playoffs, Beachy would be the 4th starter.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
July 17th, 2011
7:16 pm
Here’s some discussion of Lowe and the Tigers…
http://www.blessyouboys.com/2011/7/17/2279776/detroit-tigers-rumors-derek-lowe-grabs-attention-carlos-beltran-still
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:16 pm
Well I would love to see Cain in the braves organisation. Why would the royals trade a young stud though? They are just taking time with him before he becomes a franchise guy for them.
Ward
July 17th, 2011
7:16 pm
Well every one, talk later my friends…………peace…..
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
7:16 pm
However, if y’all would give Minor up for Cain then what about adding a Jairo Ascencio and .600 Schafer makes that deal so lopsided? I mean, heck, if Schafe is gonna be somebody then by all means let’s hang onto the lil feller. I like the way he plays ball, and if all he has to do is figure out how to hit, then that shouldn’t be too difficult should it?
Ease
July 17th, 2011
7:17 pm
And half as old as nolie.
Says the pot to the kettle…
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:17 pm
Well, as unpopular as it sounds I would trade JJ to a contender. Sell high and get some postion players in the farm system and a starting CF rental.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:18 pm
as a guy who sees lots of Ray’s games and knows lots of fans, Upton is a very frustrating player
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:19 pm
Texas, minor has a huge upside and is a leftie starter. He could be used in a ton of different trades.Do we want to burn him on someone who isnt proven in the majors?
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:20 pm
I don’t see much in his MiLB stats that indicate he will be a franchise guy in the bigs. and he is already 25. may end up a good player though
Braves win and now must consider obvious: trading Lowe | Jeff Schultz
July 17th, 2011
7:20 pm
[...] this time. He joked in the clubhouse, “Hey, I’m going to the American League,” and told our Carroll Rogers, “Why stress over something that you have no control over? … People say we may need a [...]
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
7:20 pm
Okay that does it Blankster. You can’t tell me that I am off my rocker for including Jairo and Schafe with Minor in a deal for Cain, and then go say you would trade JJ for a CF rental and prospects. Now way, sir! I will not be labled crazy by that kind of thinking. LOL
CB
July 17th, 2011
7:21 pm
Hush,Petrel.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
7:23 pm
Do we want to burn him on someone who isnt proven in the majors?
In all seriousness, Blank, the reason to do this is controlability and payroll effiiciency. ANd while 147 ABs in MLB is not a ton, Cain did OPS .763 in that time with MIL.
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:24 pm
Texas – look at JJ’s stats this year. They are a statistical outlier. He has been really tough when they have had men on base. This isnt because he suddenly gets better stuff when people are on base, its basic luck. JJ is a top pitcher but he isnt an ace. We need to trade him now because we wont be able to sign him to a long term deal. Lets get some return on the guy and pack him off for CF rental and some prospects. It would improve us this year and alot in the future. I dont think JJ’s second half performance will be that far above what tehran/minor could give us.
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:24 pm
Also as nolee said, he is 25, for speedy players 25 is already pretty old. By 30 those type of players will begin to decline.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
7:27 pm
JJ’s numbers this year are unusually good, but not unreasonable when you look at his 2009 season which I think is closer to what his “norm” will be, and they are real good numbers. 2010 doesn’t even register in my book, and that is the year I see as the outlier with his being hurt all year.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
7:28 pm
By 30 those type of players will begin to decline.
Good thing the Braves wouldn’t need him for more years than the club could control him then isn’t it.
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:28 pm
Texas 147 ab proves nothing. As braves fans we know this. Look at Frenchy and Heyward. They were amazing but now both are almost worthless because teams have found the massive holes in their swings and just pound on them to make both players below average offensive RF
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:29 pm
so no JJ for Cain, TFor?
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
7:31 pm
Not unless you officially endorse that deal, noles, LOL
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:32 pm
I think unless wren can pick up a Rh reliable bullpen guy or an proven ML CF lead off man then he shouldnt make a trade unless it is with the best long term interests of the braves. Trading for a corner outfielder would be ridiculous. Which means with wren we cant rule it out, but getting quentin would be nonsense because we have prado and heyward who arent going anywhere.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:32 pm
nah I’ll pass on that one, too
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
7:33 pm
Blankster…..come on man…there is no reason to trade JJ..none. He’s young, good, and affordable. When the time comes to pay him, you offer your best and see what happens.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
7:34 pm
You just called Heyward worthless Blankster. You and I obviously reside in different baseball universes and should therefore agree to disagree while the conversation is still amicable. We will see how it all shakes out, and in the meantime I assume we will both be rooting for the Braves to win which is all that matters at the cliched “end of the day.”
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:34 pm
For the most part i think Smilin’ Frank has done a pretty good job with his trades and pickups.
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:35 pm
Njbraves – what if we could trade him and land a large haul for him including a coupe of top prospects, and a near rdy ML CF/already ML cf? You have to give up something to get something. We are stacked in the rotation for this year and next so why not use JJ to make this club dominant for the next 5-10 years?
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:36 pm
Hell I STILL caint believe that the government wasted all that time and money and then butchered the Clemens trial
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:36 pm
Texas, untill he learns to hit that inside fastball then he is worthless. He is just going to get eaten up (as he currently is). He doesnt even hustle which annoys me.
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
7:37 pm
It’s always about the future for some of you. Why can’t they try and win now?? This year’s team could win the WS with a little help and a few breaks here and there. I’m so tired of hearing about the” long term”…go out and make the moves you have to to win the whole damn thing. I’m not saying to gut the farm system, but they have so much pitching depth right now there is no way all of these guys will be Braves forever.
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
7:37 pm
glad venters finally announced the baby its been killing me…dude was so excited when he found out…and when he found out it was a boy he was even more excited.
Listening to him talk to my 3 year old about it is pretty cute
cricket
July 17th, 2011
7:37 pm
Your sell high candidate folks
All the bloggers here suggesting Sell High for JJJ must be super smart traders. Sell High means other party is dumb enough to Buy High. Surprised that these super smart traders are revealing their brilliance here on the net where some of those dumbos might read it and get a hint that they are being taken…
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
7:38 pm
Nolie, it seems to me that the fix was in the Clemens trial. I mean how else does a prosecutor present evidence that has already been ruled inadmissable? The fix, or gross incompetence, either way I want a partial tax refund for my share of that debacle.
njbraves
July 17th, 2011
7:39 pm
Blankster….do you want to win the WS?? If you do, then trading JJ is a terrible idea. If your goal is to have the best farm system, then by all means, let’s trade JJ. At some point you have to go for it.
cricket
July 17th, 2011
7:39 pm
I dont think JJ’s second half performance will be that far above what tehran/minor could give us.
I only wish there was a way to place bet against this ‘thought’..
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:40 pm
I was wondering if the got to one of the prosecutors, too. If not he/they should be fired
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:42 pm
But the upgrade we will gain on schafer in centre will still upgrade the club. Also next year we will be in a very strong postion. Heck you could trade JJ for prospects and then instantly move 1 of these proospects to pick up bourn. Addition by subtraction.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:43 pm
obtaining a great bat is no guarantee of post season success, just helps the odds a bit. but we all know how many times short 3, 5 or 7 game series buck the odds….
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
7:44 pm
nolie – gotta agree with you…isn’t there video tape of him saying I didn’t do it under oath and now proof that he did it. Not sure how you lose that one but I’m no attorney.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:44 pm
another game like todays, and the trade JJ movement will start to roll
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:45 pm
We cant beat the phillies with jordan schafer batting lead off. End of story.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:45 pm
shoulda had Braveheart try the case. guaranteed win….
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
7:46 pm
In the last 30 minutes y’all have traded Lowe, JJ, and Minor. We now have a rotation of Hudson, Hanson, Beachy (about 10 MLB starts), Martinez (2 starts in AAA) and Teheran (20 years old).
Did we get a bat?
BBraves
July 17th, 2011
7:46 pm
Wow Gonzalez,McLouth, and Heyward have a worse batting average than Schafer. Also, you have to factor in how many walks and thowing error than Schafer causes. Amazing that Braves are leading the wildcard. Will be nice once Chipper gets back and hopfully everyone can stay healthy. Would be nice to see Wilkin Ramirez get a few more at bats he has played well compared the other with the few chances he has had to get in the game.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
7:46 pm
Clemens lawyer, I read, was planning on attcking the government for the entire process of the senate hearings, Mitchell Report, the financial cost of it all, etc. I wonder if the Feds began to see absolutely no up-side to this deal at all, especially after the Bonds’ verdict, and just decided to put a bullet in the whole deal. It all seems fishy.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:46 pm
and where is Bravey lately? ain’t seen him in a coon’s age
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
7:47 pm
nolie – realistically how much does it change the odds? 1-2 games over a full season so .5-1 game in this less than 1/2 a season?
Is that about right you seem to know the statistical comparison stuff on this better than most.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:47 pm
I certainly hope we got one back KL, and a good one too
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
7:47 pm
Got some good fantasy baseball team names out it in my league though. Barry’s Bondsman, and Roger’s Clemency.
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
7:48 pm
btw ya’ll should get on twitter just to see the picture I took of proctor in the bullpen last night…
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
7:49 pm
Made me laugh there, keylargo.
BBraves
July 17th, 2011
7:50 pm
I wish some team was desperate for a centerfielder and we could dump McLouth as well as Lowe.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:51 pm
too many variables to really calculate tiger. I was just trying to introduce a little realism to so many who seem to think that adding a bat would make us a lock….both in getting there and especially in the series themselves. I’m certainly not against adding one if they find the right deal, but we could still lose the WS
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:52 pm
great names TFor
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:52 pm
BBraves – McLouth isnt going anywhere. He is unmovable, and besides he isnt doing that bad this year. .690 OPS is only just below the NL average. Plus by all accounts he is a great teammate, which does help.
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
7:54 pm
nolie – I’m right there with you. Having Prado healthy uggla/heyward hittin closer to career norms have a much bigger impact than anything we could dream to get in CF
Unless someone has a time machine to go bring druw back.
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:54 pm
Nolee – can you imagine schafer leading off vs lee, halladay and hamels? He wouldnt get on base at all. We cant afford to have our lead off man never getting on base in a big series vs the frillies.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
7:54 pm
yup, the “average” hitter level has sure sunk over the last few years. 750 hitters are now at least silver if not gold
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
7:56 pm
well time for me to put the little one to bed…be back in about 30 minutes
cricket
July 17th, 2011
7:56 pm
another game like todays, and the trade JJ movement will start to roll
gotta disagree. he’ll throw 6 inn for 2 runs and there will be people telling us how he got lucky again, he throws like a girl unlike real manly men like Kyle Farnsworth, we should trade him, sell high to dumbos who are in a business of buying high, this will get us a rich cache of prospects whom we can start trading the next time we are close to winning (like say when we have 4th/5th best record after half a season).
Blankster
July 17th, 2011
7:56 pm
It sure makes a difference now those balls off the end of the bat dont get muscled into the seats doesnt it! Baseball is more fun now you can have faith that players are more likely clean than not.
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
7:59 pm
Lowe is the only starter that makes sense trading. Mike Minor could come close or match Lowe’s numbers it would be a downgrade still in my opinion but still makes sense. Free up some money for this season to maybe add a more expensive bat before the deadline, while also getting money off the books for 2012 giving us more options during the offseason on how we can use the money saved by trading Lowe.
Looking at the roster now, CF is our only hole. Were still winning with Jordan in CF but its not like he’s putting up MLB caliber numbers. Corner Outfield will be filled when Chipper returns. Shortstop wont be upgraded as AGon’s defense is valued big time on this team. Also there isnt many options at SS that would be considered a upgrade.
Our options, 1. Trade for a Everyday CF (ex. Bourn) 2. Add a Versitile bench type player (ex. Carroll) 3. Upgrade the Bullpen (ex. Adams) 4. Or downgrade the Defense by getting a big Corner OF bat (ex. Pence) roll dice without a true CF.
Problem with adding a Pence **type** player, while we could possibly get by the rest of the season without a Real CFer, going into 2012 with 3 Corner OFers who suppost to play everyday is a Problem. It just doesnt make sense unless were willing to move Prado to the bench or whatever, Chipper will return to play 3B. Uggla is at 2B.
Best Option– trade for a CFer that will be here for atleast 2012 season or possibly longer.
Most Likely to Happen– Wren will tinker around add a reliever and bench guy. Still a nice upgrade over Lugo/Proctor.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
8:00 pm
I mean IF there is another game like today the volume would increase cricket, not saying that there would be another game like it.
BBraves
July 17th, 2011
8:01 pm
Mclouth has a good OBP because he hits eighth and get walked or pitched around because the pitcher hits behind him. The Braves would be so much better if McLouth could be moved to the bench and A Gonzalez could bat eighth.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
8:03 pm
Mclouth has a good OBP because he hits eighth and get walked or pitched around because the pitcher hits behind him.
bulloney, that is pure speculation. the sample sizes are too small to be meaningful as predictors.
cricket
July 17th, 2011
8:03 pm
It sure makes a difference now those balls off the end of the bat dont get muscled into the seats doesnt it! Baseball is more fun now you can have faith that players are more likely clean than not.
Co-sign. Great to see normal humans playing the game and not some freaky super muscle men. I mean look at Hank Aaron, looks so normal, though very athletic and still hit million homers, stole million bases and had billion hits.
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
8:04 pm
I find it hard for Wren to make a bigger impact move because of Payroll restrictions. So either we give up more talent in a trade or take on more salary of the player were trading for. We all dont wanna deal our prospects, so we have to take on money. But to do that will have to trade Lowe first… So alot has to happen to get a more expensive bat. I say there’s only a 15% chance Lowe gets dealt.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
8:04 pm
I miss my homers…
George
July 17th, 2011
8:06 pm
Good evening all
GOOD WIN. OH FREDDY and BRIAN. Good FREDI used KIMBREL with game tied, he should have done it a week ago Friday. Good he listened to me and learned.
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
8:07 pm
another game like todays, and the trade JJ movement will start to roll
JJ would have been the winning pitcher today if not for Sherrill giving up the HR.
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
8:09 pm
From what I been reading is that there is plenty of relief pitchers on the trade market, meaning teams wont be able to get as much in return. And bench players dont cost much either. Wren will atleast make a improvement over Lugo/Proctor. It could be another Rick Ankiel and Kyle Farnsworth **type** trade most likely to happen.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
8:10 pm
shirley you don’t expect logic to sway the board do you KL?
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
8:10 pm
there also seems to be a lot of RHed hitting OFers available, according to ESPN writers
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
8:14 pm
Noleeee – the only thing I expect from the blog is the unexpected.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
8:15 pm
good way to look at it
George
July 17th, 2011
8:15 pm
Don’t trade LOWE till end of season, if then.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
8:15 pm
gonna go watch a flick. seeya all later
George
July 17th, 2011
8:20 pm
Outta here. Have a good one or two tonight y’ll. Great FREDI is listening to me if he continues to do so he will get smart and be a good MGR.
BravesFAN
July 17th, 2011
8:20 pm
You know Heyward did not think his year would be so bad that he would be getting benched vs a lefty for Wilkin Ramirez….Even since he has returned from the DL he still has not been great. What is his BA since his DL return .260?? What is wrong with this kid?? he has not put together a good 2-3 weeks ALL YEAR. We need him to step up and not be a .230 bum if were going to make some noise come playoff time!!!
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
8:22 pm
Names mentioned as Availible RH Outfield Bats. Conner Jackson, Josh Willingham, Reed Johnson, Lasting Millege, Jeff Francour.
Then you have these OF names being mentioned at some point Hunter Pence (who’s staying put I think), Carlos Quinten, Carlos Beltran, Michael Bourn, BJ Upton, Coco Crisp, Julio Borbon, Melky Cabrera, Carlos Lee (who will take that contract HA!) Johnny Damon, Colby Rasmus (very doubtful),
Versitile Guys mentioned, Jamey Carroll, Wilson Betemit, Jeff Keppinger, Chris Ianetta.
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
8:27 pm
If Dan Uggla and Jason Heyward have normal expected 2nd halfs they should combine to hit 25 homers and 90 rbis.
yogi
July 17th, 2011
8:30 pm
Send Conrad down and bring up Rueben Gotay. he was a very good pinch hitter when he was with the Braves a couple of years ago.
alexcox
July 17th, 2011
8:35 pm
no seria bueno tread lowe es un lansador d playoff traed kk protocor sherlll gearin,martines libranic y trael al bulpen gente sana y no operados. traer julio .minor delgado viscaino y algun aaa q este biem o un calmante.en la fecha limite.creo q pueden conseguir un bateador desente por q si hasen esos ajustes no c pasaran del limite en su nomina
John Leonard
July 17th, 2011
8:35 pm
Nolee: has the game changed that much?As a pitcher I would go after McClouth with everythig so that the pitcher would lead off the next inning.
VaBravesFan
July 17th, 2011
8:36 pm
i cant read spanish at all… I only know certain words. sorry.
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
8:39 pm
jl – don’t think nolie was saying that think he was calling BS on the person who said it
alexcox
July 17th, 2011
8:41 pm
wren tiene el esenario d frente y no tiene excusa por q hatenido alos fan disiendole lo q sebe en cada juego c a hablado d parish si no lo qieres botar busca ayuda extra como la tiene los cardenales tien dos couch
Big Jake
July 17th, 2011
8:43 pm
has the game changed that much?As a pitcher I would go after McClouth with everythig so that the pitcher would lead off the next inning. John L
I don’t think it has changed that much, but it seems to be a blog urban myth. A highly dubious and overrated one I think.
Most are still going to try to get the out so that the pitcher leads off, and McLouth has always had good BA/OBP splits even at his worst during last season.
Hitting 8th has little or nothing to do with that.
abeeeewright
July 17th, 2011
8:45 pm
I know that Conrad made a blunder on the bases. But, didn’t he get on base in a critical pinch hit role today?
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
8:45 pm
I’d rather have Lowe in the rotation than Minor or Teheran for the remainder of 2011. But if the team were to pick up all of that 15 million next year, or at least most of it, that could go a long way to making this team better for 2012.
Dan Kolb's Overused Diaper
July 17th, 2011
8:46 pm
Man I stunk in Atlanta.
Big Jake
July 17th, 2011
8:47 pm
I had to miss the game for work, but it looks like it had an exciting and tense ending. I’m glad they won.
I have not gone back to read through it, bit I bet there was a lot of crazy talk during most of it.
It’s a shame the blog gets that way so much.
I have read it since then and it’s been interesting and pretty sane.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
8:49 pm
What about the newly stretched out Cristhian Martinez, Efrim?
Big Jake
July 17th, 2011
8:49 pm
I would rather have Lowe this season also, but if it can get done it might be a good long term idea.
David O'Brien
July 17th, 2011
8:50 pm
what’s DOB’s twitter address
@ajcbraves
Big Jake
July 17th, 2011
8:51 pm
I would hate to have to rely much on Martinez as a starter down the stretch of a pennant hunt. JMO.
bravesgrl4lifeeeeeeeee
July 17th, 2011
8:53 pm
Man, that was a fun game to be at today! I never lost the faith that our boys would win this one. My hubby (remember, he is not a baseball guy) wasn’t even complaining, so I knew the day was charmed. I would have wasted my $$$ if I had been as negative as my blogging friends today
Still love you guys, but I hope this game teaches you a lesson: don’t give up! It sure taught me that, because as recent as last night, I turned the channel before the end. Of course, last night, I had a reason other than the losing effort, but still, I had given up. Never again! This game was just too good today.
Big Jake
July 17th, 2011
8:56 pm
It is funny how dead this place can get after a Braves win, even an exciting one.
Where do they all go?
Big Jake
July 17th, 2011
8:58 pm
I have to go check the dogs, feed and groom them. I might have a good sale tomorrow.
Good night and good luck
David O'Brien
July 17th, 2011
9:07 pm
I had to miss the game for work, but it looks like it had an exciting and tense ending. I’m glad they won.
I have not gone back to read through it, bit I bet there was a lot of crazy talk during most of it.
It’s a shame the blog gets that way so much.
I have read it since then and it’s been interesting and pretty sane. — Big Jake
Of course it has been. Because we have a segment of bloggers who don’t get nearly as excited and passionate blogging about the team that’s on pace for 95 wins and has a five-game wild-card lead when the team wins, as they do when they’re moaning and groaning during every loss or during the early, middle or late innings of any game in which the team trails and those folks prematurely “ballgame” it, again and again.
Maybe we can get an Emory behavioral-science professor to study that segment of our blog participants. Might be interesting to figure out what makes them tick.
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
9:15 pm
DOB – you catch the photo of proctor in the bullpen I posted on twitter last night?
jeffrey d
July 17th, 2011
9:15 pm
My friend just started her residency at Emory. Maybe she can find a behavioral-science professor. Too bad she couldn’t do it herself. She’s in pediatrics.
…on second thought, maybe she can help.
TeheranTime
July 17th, 2011
9:24 pm
WHAT IF…Atlanta dealt Derek Lowe and Alex Gonzalez to Detroit for Johnny Perralta and prospects? Salary wise, Atlanta would clear $15 million with Derek Lowe and $2.5 million with Alex Gonzalez. Johnny Perralta’s salary is $5.5 million this season and next season. That leaves $12.5 million for a “big name hitter” in addition to the upgrade at shortstop? You could turn around and deal prospects gained in the deal with Detroit to Houston with some prospects from within the organization for Hunter Pence. Pence makes $6.5 million in salary. You still have money free should you decide to get a bat for the bench. I think this makes sense because as much as it pains me to say it, Chipper Jones may not even hold out the rest of this season, much less next season. You move Martin Prado to third, Pence to left, Schafer stays in center and you are ready to move forward. The spot in the rotation vacated by Lowe would be filled by Brandon Beachy immediately. You could call up Mike Minor as your fifth starter until Julio Teheran is ready. If you find out that Beachy isn’t ready for the step up, you still have some money available in the trading of Lowe to address a free agent pitcher next year.
bravesgrl4lifeeeeeeeee
July 17th, 2011
9:25 pm
DOB, I am totally psyched about this team and the chances for a 95 win season! That game today convinced me to never again give up on my Braves!! I love this team – each and every guy on it!
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
9:33 pm
Can’t imagine Peralta being traded. If Lowe goes to Detroit, I don’t think too much will be coming back.
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
9:37 pm
I’m pretty excited about this team. Hell, I think we’ve got a fair shot to beat the Phillies in the NLCS too.
Braves Fan5
July 17th, 2011
9:42 pm
If these talks with detroit are serious i wonder if ryan raburns name has come up. He’s a guy with good pop that can play outfield and infield.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
9:43 pm
Mets are apparently willing to eat some of Beltran’s salary if a team wants to talk trade.
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
9:45 pm
Can Beltran still play CF? At all?
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
9:46 pm
I think we’ve got a fair shot to beat the Phillies in the NLCS too.
I hate making comments like this, but this year would be a disappointment if we didn’t at least get to the NLCS. Playoffs are a big crapshoot, but the Braves have to win a playoff series this season. I think we’re that much better than any other team not named the Phillies in the NL.
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
9:47 pm
I think we’re that much better than any other team not named the Phillies in the NL.
I do too. We (along with the Phillies) are the class of the NL. And we’re only going to get better in the coming years, IMO.
Powder Blue
July 17th, 2011
9:49 pm
“Can Beltran still play CF? At all?”
Good question. I don’t know if he can still play CF.
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
9:50 pm
I understand the folks that want a bat, any bat at all, but in my opinion we need to find someone who can play CF or SS. An everyday corner OF doesn’t really fit our needs. What are we gonna do, not play Prado every day? I don’t see that happening.
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
9:51 pm
efrim – don’t you have to caveat that…if we don’t lose 2 starting pitchers our closer and setup man 2 starting infielders including our main offensive threat it will be disappointing to not make the NLCS
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
9:53 pm
steve – of course we don’t bench prado we bench uggla and let prado play 2B
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
9:55 pm
tiger297, of course. That goes without saying. We have to be relatively healthy.
abeeeewright
July 17th, 2011
10:05 pm
I think the “bench Uggla” train has left the station (if it even stopped over in Atlanta). It looks like “The Slump” has been busted.
Braves biggest upgrade possibilities are at SS, back up SS, CF, 4th OF, and middle relief.
Braves get a big upgrade in about two weeks when Chipper comes back from the DL.
cricket
July 17th, 2011
10:05 pm
Send Conrad down and bring up Rueben Gotay. he was a very good pinch hitter when he was with the Braves a couple of years ago.
Gotay with ATL – 102 AB 24 H 5 2B 2 HR 1 SB 1 CS .235 .322 .343
Conrad this year – 58 AB 14 H 3 2B 3 HR 1 SB 1 CS .241 .348 .448
Conrad last year – 156 AB 39 H 11 2B 8 HR 5 SB 1 CS .250 .324 .487
Yep, send that bum down and bring up Albert Ruben Gotay Pujols.
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
10:06 pm
cricket – come on man since when do stats matter in a blog argument LOL
abeeeewright
July 17th, 2011
10:07 pm
It’s funny that the Braves have returned from the AS Break to face the gNats, who always give the Braves fits and a road trip to “The House of Horrors,” Coors Field.
abeeeewright
July 17th, 2011
10:09 pm
Reminiscing about Braves “never were”s like Ruben Gotay … I think the Braves have Josh Anderson stashed in the minor leagues somewhere. How about resurrecting the Anderson/Schafer duel from 2009.
The A Bomb
July 17th, 2011
10:11 pm
Here’s what I’d love to see…
Lowe to the Tigers for Schlereth plus salary relief….
Then turn around and deal Minor, Gomez (for when Pena gets dealt) and Schlereth to the Cubs for Marlon Byrd.
Can live without Minor and Gilmartin if necessary. Cubs should be impressed with Minor after big game last season.
Was on the Bourn bandwagon for awhile….but I’ll take a righty any day….and Byrd should have been signed last year.
cricket
July 17th, 2011
10:11 pm
tiger297 – to be fair, shaun has done to stats on this blog what nazis did to centuries old hindu symbol of swastika
jeffrey d
July 17th, 2011
10:17 pm
Cubs should be impressed with Minor after big game last season.
They’re not naive
Efrim
July 17th, 2011
10:20 pm
Ed Salcedo – 2 for 4 with a BB tonight for Rome. Tied the game with a triple in the 9th. Drove home Matt Lipka, who also went 2 for 4 with a BB. Salcedo, best position prospect we have, and perhaps a Top 100 prospect next year for evaluators. #4 prospect in the org. after the three Latin arms.
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July 17th, 2011
10:30 pm
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keylargo
July 17th, 2011
10:34 pm
Go get em Crickett!!. Start with that Tiger dude.
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
10:37 pm
kl – i’m going to email you a picture of the “fish” to checkout
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
10:40 pm
The two bass minnows?
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
10:45 pm
just one of them
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
10:46 pm
They’re not naive
You’re probably right, jd. But there is a whole city of long time Cubs fans that would disagree with you.
You think this blog gets negative at times, go to Wrigley and watch the north siders get down on their team–they make Mitchell look like an optimist.
Tomas
July 17th, 2011
10:46 pm
I don’t think the Braves need to acquire offense, because other teams asking price for SS or CF are too high right now, and there aren’t a lot of options. I mean Matt Kemp is awesome, but LA will not trade him or ask for the entire farm even though he is under team control for just next season. Hunter Pence, pretty decent, but doubt they’ll trade him. I’d rather give Schafer/Mclouth a shot.
If the Braves do trade Lowe, they should acquire a guy that can play SS/3B and can hit a little bit from the right side. Maybe Jeff Keppenger makes sense, and he’d be an upgrade over Lugo. And with the money that Lowe would free up, add a solid reliever like Heath Bell, Francisco Cordero, Huston Street, Leo Nunez, Brandon League, or David Aardsma
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
10:48 pm
I read yesterday the Phillies were after Heath Bell.
Roja
July 17th, 2011
10:49 pm
Maybe we can throw in our $6 million AA pitcher as a part of the Lowe trade??????
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
July 17th, 2011
10:49 pm
Fillies cannot have Heath Bell.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
10:51 pm
Yep, keylargo. I read they were after Heath Bell, but were primarily interested in Mike Adams. Both those guys are bad news.
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
10:56 pm
I hope the Brewers don’t make any more moves. They may end up being our biggest rival for the Wild Card,
UNCBrave
July 17th, 2011
10:58 pm
So, if the Braves trade Lowe…That FREES UP 32 Million for next year CORRECT?????
15 million-Lowe
7 million-Kawakami
10 Million-McLouth option not picked up
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
11:00 pm
well time for me to hit the bed…2 days off work and man I really don’t want to go back
tiger297
July 17th, 2011
11:02 pm
UNCBrave – go to cots it will give you the details on all the contracts there are a bunch of raises to account for as well (not 32M though)
The A Bomb
July 17th, 2011
11:03 pm
Time for Frank to stop messing around and reward Prado with something besides a commercial.
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
11:05 pm
McLouth would free up this years salary minus the buyout on his 2012 contract. $1.25M I think so -
$6.5 – $1.25 will give $5.25M of freed payroll.
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
11:08 pm
T for Texas – it looks like my dream for 2011 is not going to happen. I had held out hope since the end of last year that Billy Wagner would come back and close with Kimbrell and Venters setting him up.
cricket
July 17th, 2011
11:11 pm
Man, why do we have either super obese kids or bodybuilding crazed children. Can’t the children just go out and play?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43770379/ns/business-us_business/
TnBrian
July 17th, 2011
11:14 pm
The A Bomb, funny commercial though.
“NUMBER 10 – CHIPPER JONES”
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
11:18 pm
Sorry to see that, key. It woulda been good to have Billy back in the pen. Wagner added to this existing bullppen woulda just been unfair. He probably realized that, and decided to stay retired, in order to maintain the integrity of the competitive balance in the league.
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
11:19 pm
Cricket – I have about 10 kids in my neighborhood. NONE have a job. NONE are seen out riding bikes. NONE are out fishing. I guess they are inside on the phone, on the computer or playing Nintendo or Wii.
No kids ever play baseball or even softball. These generations are going to be doing things we never did as kids and from sitting around all day and eating twice a day at McDonalds, they’re way fatter than we ever were.
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
11:21 pm
But T he was 3 saves away from being the all time leader for left handers. How could he pass that up? I couldn’t.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
11:22 pm
I believe a portion of the McLouth contract buy-out was budgeted into this years payroll, around 50% of it.
T for Texas
July 17th, 2011
11:25 pm
I think he must have thought he would get that record last year, and decided that either way he was hanging em up. Interesting guy, because you are right, an all time baseball record is a big deal to walk away from.
Tomas
July 17th, 2011
11:32 pm
UNCBrave yes but before thinking about what they’re gonna do with the money, consider all the arb eligible players and the raises they’ll receive, I’m guessing that payroll will be around 83 million(that includes Erick Hinske’s option being picked up).
Scott Linebirnk, Alex Gonzalez, and George Sherril are also leaving. So needs are a SS, a reliever, and a right handed hitting outfielder for the bench to give Schafer or Heyward days off vs lefties(maybe Scott Harriston).
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
11:35 pm
Alex Gonzalez might very well be back. He wants to come back and is affordable. $5M for two years would most probably sign him and be there to let Pastornicky mature.
Tomas
July 17th, 2011
11:42 pm
Keylargo that would be a nightmare. I know J-roll will probably have a 3 year deal, but I’d love for the Braves to sign him for 2 years 14-16 million if possible. I’d rather have Brandon Hicks than another year form Gonzo
Steve from OH
July 17th, 2011
11:45 pm
AGon’s getting up there in age as well. Dunno if he’d really be worth anything two years from now. But there’s not much else out there either…
BravesfansinNC
July 17th, 2011
11:46 pm
Could the Braves be looking at Charlie Furbush for the bullpen to get in return for Lowe if we do trade Lowe at. I just saw this on twitter
jonmorosi Jon Morosi
Could be a promotion. Could be due to trade talks. Could be anything. To be honest, I don’t know. It’s July. #Tigers
keylargo
July 17th, 2011
11:47 pm
Tomas – I won’t say anything one way or the other, but do you think the Braves would get right back into a Lowe type situation with J roll? Aging veteran, best days behind him making more money than anyone on the team? It would end up like Lowe with EVERYONE trying to find a was to basically give him away to dump the salary.
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
11:47 pm
I’d rather have Brandon Hicks than another year form Gonzo Tomas
you gotta be kidding. Hicks sux and is not as good defensively as Gonzo either
and if he keeps pitching like he has most of the year they might wanna try to get Sherrill to come back too
noleeee
July 17th, 2011
11:50 pm
I guess they could let Lugo play short all next season
DiamondbackMac
July 17th, 2011
11:56 pm
DOB
Might be interesting to figure out what makes them tick.
I’m not an Emory professor, but I do know a little about watches. My guess would be a rusty main spring.
Chris from the Rock
July 18th, 2011
12:01 am
Still no runs in this Sox/Rays tilt.
Chris from the Rock
July 18th, 2011
12:04 am
Sox had bases loaded, no outs. Rays wriggled off the hook.
Snotboogie
July 18th, 2011
12:06 am
Still no runs in this Sox/Rays tilt.
Two team capable of so much offense normally. Niemann started with an ERA over 4 and they managed a total of 4 hits between them till the 9th or something. Amazing!
keylargo
July 18th, 2011
12:09 am
steve from oh – nolie and I discussed AGon’s age a couplle days ago and agreed he could handle it fulltime for 2 more years and the Braves would give a contract based on that. But that won’t keep Agon from wanting 3 or more, but he’s making $2.5 now and should take two years at that price.
Tomas
July 18th, 2011
12:09 am
Keylargo, but still good defense, good leadoff hitter. He is not MVP caliber anymore, but he has been solid this year, still scares me when he comes up to the plate or gets on base, because he is a great base stealer. 2 years 7-8mill/per yr not a huge contract like the one Lowe got.
Nolee, Hicks hasn’t done anything in MLB. And he made a couple of errors whe he played. He’s only had 3 starts in his big league career and has played in 33 games. He’s pretty much established he is a horrible bench guy/ pinch hitter.
He has a rep to be a solid defender, and have you seen the numbers he is putting up in Gwinett, an 867 OPS(350 OBP) 14 homers and a 264 AVG, a home run every 14 at bats. Maybe if he played everyday when he gets called up he could put up some numbers like that, instead of getting 1 at bat every 3 games
Chris from the Rock
July 18th, 2011
12:13 am
I say we move Chipper back to SS next year. He’ll be a spry 40 years old next year. Go out the way he started, eh.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
12:17 am
I doubt he hits like that in the bigs for any length of time Tomas, and he does not play short as well as you hear the Braves say he does, at least not the times that Scoots and I have seen him.
He has some pop and that’s about it prior to this year at AAA. big jumps like that are always highly suspect.
I’d rather pay Gonzo 3mil, not sure he will accept a short contract at his age but I think they will ask
the ideal would be to acquire one who has shown that he can actually get on base
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
12:20 am
good idea. I’m sure that Chipper has matured enough that we would not see 130 errors in three seasons like he gave us in the minors.
keylargo
July 18th, 2011
12:22 am
Tomas – is that all the market will pay Rollins? 7 to 8 Million? Seems like he could work that out with the Phillies for that money..Just looked at his salary and he is finishing a 5 year $40M contract. He may be like CJ and feel he’s taken one for the team all these years and now is the time to make it up.
I agree that it should be looked into in the $8M range.
Moe Berg
July 18th, 2011
12:23 am
“I’m not an Emory professor, but I do know a little about watches.”
I have taught at Emory, but my watch died while doing so. Not sure that the latter compensates.
Chris from the Rock
July 18th, 2011
12:24 am
Chipper’s UZR at SS would still be better than Yuniesky Betancourt I’d bet. That dude is atrocious.
Tomas
July 18th, 2011
12:25 am
Nolee, but if he continues to put up the numbers, maybe try him out next year, if he fails, then maybe a trade should happen, or call up Pastornicky if he is doing well in AAA.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
12:25 am
I think the market will pay him more like 3/28 at least
Chris from the Rock
July 18th, 2011
12:27 am
Dude, we might be seeing Marco Scutaro and Ben Zobrist on the hill tonight if this continues.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
12:28 am
yeah it looks like he has at least guaranteed himself another ST look unless he totally tanks the rest of the season Tomas. Heck, who knows maybe he learned sumthang after all those years of stinking up each level.
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
12:39 am
Boy, sure does look like we’re stuck with gonz for a little bit. glad for the glove, but his numbers at the plate keep going south
Tomas
July 18th, 2011
12:40 am
Keylargo, yeah I guess the Phillies could be okay with that salary. I think he’ll get 3 years 21 million, because he is just not the player he once was. Age, injuries, declining abilities are a concern, specially when one of his major assets is speed. He is still serviceable, but comparing Chipper and J-roll free agents years, you’ve got to remember Chipper had just won the batting title hitting over 360(364 I think), plus all his history with ATL a first ballot HOF. I think Jimmy is around 280, 14 steals something like that with 10 homers, solid, but not like Chipper’s free agent yr
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
12:42 am
Anybody surprised that Fredi stuck with JJ for as long as he did today? Seems like ever since he yanked him a while back and JJ got mad, Fredi’s had a reluctant hook with JJ. Not saying that’s a bad thing, just noticed…
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
12:47 am
aloha Woody
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
12:50 am
Aloha Nolee. What’d you think today? Smelled a little like last year in those late innings.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
12:51 am
yup it did a little bit. nice win
David O'Brien
July 18th, 2011
12:51 am
This Rays-BoSox game is ridiculous. 13 innings and still no score? Just threw 400th pitch of the game.
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
12:55 am
Sure was. Glad to see Freeman get the big hit.
I get a chance to see the Bravos at the Ted in a couple of weeks. Unfortunately playing the Fish. I get in just after the Pirates leave.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
12:56 am
you think that the Pirates can keep it up?
David O'Brien
July 18th, 2011
12:57 am
Watched first 3 innings of this Rays-Red Sox game, went to dinner, saw “Horrible Bosses” (hilarious movie), returned to hotel, now have watched 3 MORE innings of same Rays-Red Sox game. Headed to 14th inning.
Tomas
July 18th, 2011
12:59 am
Amazing how the Red Sox have that lineup could be held scoreless for 13 innings
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
12:59 am
Hey DOB, what’s the name of the famous bbq joint in Macon? Run by a woman for many years?
Gonna do a southern swing soon.
carney johnson
July 18th, 2011
1:00 am
i get the logic of trading lowe, but who has detroit got that we would want? what/who is the speculation there?
Nova Scotia Steve
July 18th, 2011
1:00 am
I’ve been watching this thing since the 7th. On at least 4 or 5 occasion the Rays have hit the ball to the warning track.
The OF at Tropicana seems like the black hole.
Tomas
July 18th, 2011
1:01 am
Scutari being punished
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:01 am
Is there a worse place than TB to play in baseball?
Nova Scotia Steve
July 18th, 2011
1:02 am
I think we get a prospect and a BP arm. That’s it and that’s all for Lowe.
If this deal even happens. This isn’t a “who do we get in return” type deal. IMO.
If Wren does this…he’s got something else cooking to land some offense.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 18th, 2011
1:03 am
*prospect or a BP arm
Tomas
July 18th, 2011
1:04 am
Woody, Oakland or the current Marlins stadium are in the mix
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:04 am
If history’s any guide, we’ll have warmer feelings for Low in late August and Sept.
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:05 am
right, tomas, right. just that trop park makes me forget about all others. Marlins getting a new park though, right?
Nova Scotia Steve
July 18th, 2011
1:07 am
Also as reported earlier – it appears the Tigers aren’t the only team interested in D. Lowe. So it will come down to who will pay more of his salary.
I think we’ll pick up some of it obviously. But if we end up paying say half of what’s left owed to Lowe in his contract – I say keep him.
Why pay for a good portion of his contract while he’s pitching somewhere else. Keep him and try to trade him in the offseason.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
1:07 am
it’s definitely one of the tougher parks in baseball ’bout every year
Nova Scotia Steve
July 18th, 2011
1:08 am
Yup, Marlins new park in 2012 and more payroll!!! They’re expected to be very active this winter in the FA market.
Tomas
July 18th, 2011
1:09 am
Yeah finally, it opens next season. So only 2 horrible stadiums left. Maybe the to rondo stadium also needs an upgrade.
Roman Gal
July 18th, 2011
1:09 am
Alright, jeffrey d, day #1 of year 22 and #22 scored every time he came to bat.
So far, so good…
Tomas
July 18th, 2011
1:09 am
Toronto not rondo
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
1:10 am
I’m betting our payroll goes down again..
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:11 am
No more McMoney, Nolee?
carney johnson
July 18th, 2011
1:11 am
thanks ns steve
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
1:12 am
cynic: a person who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing
Tomas
July 18th, 2011
1:14 am
How many balls have been hit to the warning track
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:14 am
Nolee–Braves drafted a kid from our school. Carlos Rodriguez, a lefty. 20th round. Big kid and still got some growing to do.
carney johnson
July 18th, 2011
1:14 am
i do like the idea of dumping lowe’s contract, but it’s pretty dicey losing lowe in the stretch drive when pitching’s our main plus. neither minor nor teheran have looked ready, and to plop them down in the rotation in august could backfire.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
1:15 am
they have schools over there???
U of H ?
Moe Berg
July 18th, 2011
1:16 am
@GordonEdes Sox have won only one game that has gone scoreless this long since 1919. That was 9/24/69, a 1-0 win in 14 over Yanks, GWRBI: Mike Andrews 14 minutes ago
Tomas
July 18th, 2011
1:16 am
Adrian Gonzalez with a shift, why he hits the ball everywhere
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:16 am
Yeah, can’t see letting Lowe go for a song.
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:17 am
We go up to high school, nolee. And the trades.
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:18 am
High school. We’ve had a couple of kids make it off the rock.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
1:18 am
nah me neither. makes little sense in a post season drive. if they dump him for salary relief they most likely have another deal in mind
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
1:19 am
I forget Woody are you on the Big Island or elsewhere?
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:21 am
Oahu, Nolee. Don’t think I’m ready for the Big Island right now. Mother in law lives there, though. Nice distance.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
1:23 am
yeah that works out pretty good huh Woody . she can hardly expect y’all to just stroll over of an evening
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:25 am
Yeah, that’s right. We’ve got her right now, though. Hip replacement two weeks ago. Had it done over here.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
1:27 am
sigh. even in paradise it ain’t all perfect….
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:30 am
Yeah, but where better to convalesce? She’s actually doing better than we thought she would. Lives alone in Laupahoehoe, just south of Hilo. Country. She’s gotta be able to fend or else.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
1:35 am
that’s near a big forest isn’t it?
DS1
July 18th, 2011
1:35 am
My Braves are in Colorado. A mere 500 miles east, and tomorrrow morning, I jet up to Spokane!
Something just aint right about that…….
Poor planning on my part, four shore.
And this talk about Lowe being dealt……… I hope it ain’t true. More arms is better down the stretch. Unless doing so means we get a strong CF bat.
nolie, keep things in check and I’ll get back at ya tomorrow night.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
1:37 am
night Wayne
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:38 am
Yeah, forest is upland, above Laupahoehoe, which is on the coast. Pretty. Like that side better than Kona, though the ranch areas above Kona are nice, too. You been?
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:40 am
Lots of folk after an OF bat. I would bet the price will be pretty dear even for a marginal player. I’d like to see Lowe stick around, too. Never can tell what’s going to happen to the arms.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
1:40 am
long ago. mid 70s for half a year or so. made all the main islands but not long enough to remember all that much. beautiful and great weather stick the most
how long you been there?
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
1:42 am
oh. and pricey! I remember that too
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:44 am
Since ‘77. Quarter beer night got me in Statesboro–ga southern college in those days. Paid my own way once I got here. Made things a bit more meaningful.
Tomas
July 18th, 2011
1:44 am
I’m starting to think there is a humidor inside Tropicana field
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:45 am
oh. and pricey! I remember that too
Some things don’t change, nolee!
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
1:48 am
wow 77 that a long time. I just missed you by about a year or so.
well. I’m off.TTFN y’all.
Woody Woodward
July 18th, 2011
1:50 am
ahui hou, noleee!
NO MORE PARRISH
July 18th, 2011
1:56 am
The wedding dress dude must be an Uggla fan (who pats a lot of booty for a straight guy).
Bravo_fan 52
July 18th, 2011
1:59 am
KNIGHTS OF GEORGIA 25 cent old mills ahh memories
Train Wreck Bystander
July 18th, 2011
2:39 am
I’m agreeing with the radio guys on Lowe.
(1) He has a year left and teams this year are looking for the end of this campaign only.
(2) Why would you trade a veteran arm when that is exactly the sort of experienced arm you want for your playoff drive? (loosely paraphrased)
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a Go)
July 18th, 2011
3:06 am
Well radio guys generally make more sense than blogs.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a Go)
July 18th, 2011
3:43 am
So it’s not my intention to blow the trade rumors surrounding Derek Lowe out of the water. I just want to shed some bright light on the subject with a quick history of how the Braves do business.
After reading all the information and doing about three hours of research, I then asked myself the pertinent question….when was the last time my Bravos traded a dependable, veteran starting pitcher right before the deadline.
And then it hit me, like a ton of bricks. The answer became crystal clear.
One simply has to understand how John Schuerholz, Frank Wren and company run this Braves franchise. They have as we all know build around starting pitching. However, what is lost to the masses is the reality of what our brain trust doesn’t do. They don’t trade starting pitching during the season…..ever.
But what clued me in was what the little voice in the back of my brain was telling me. Those Tigers are the answer to the riddle of why Derek Lowe is highly unlikely to be leaving Atlanta before November.
Which led me back to my original question. When was the last time my Braves traded a dependable, veteran starting pitcher right before the deadline? The year was 1987 and his name is Doyle Alexander. Yep, it’s been 24 years since such an improbable in season transaction took place. Of course we all know the end result….John Smoltz.
Some history is in order as pertains to the Alexander, Smoltz trade. Cox was the GM and Bobby was busy rebuilding the franchise from the ground up. Those Braves of the eighties stunk to high heaven and Cox had his hands full. Bobby rebuilt the minor leagues, drafted well and made some astute trades before heading back to the dugout.
So the circumstances surrounding 2011 are far different. Our franchise is in great shape. We don’t need pitching. But it is the last 24 years of history which lends itself in weighted fashion, tipping the scales in favor toward Derek Lowe going nowhere fast. As Frank Wren is not in the habit of trading dependable, veteran starting pitching during the season. So lets put this one to bed shall we, because it just isn’t happening. History tells as me as much.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
4:08 am
so I guess that you don’t think Lowe is going anywhere? How about JJ then?
N8
July 18th, 2011
4:20 am
“When was the last time my Braves traded a dependable, veteran starting pitcher right before the deadline?”
Are you really comparing Derek Lowe “circa 2011″ to the 1987 version of Doyle Alexander?
Come on Coach. Get serious. Now I’m not saying that Wren is going to give him away, simply to salary dump him like some have suggested. Of course, if he has a bigger trade say involving Delgado or Vizcaino which would require him to take on salary in the form of a bat? Then it’s possible.
But Derek Lowe is under .500, has an ERA of 4.30 and is scheduled to make about 22 more million dollars over the next season and a half.
You better believe that if Wren could insert Mike Minor or Teheran into the rotation for 1/33 of the cost…. he’s going to do it. Yup. That’s right. Both of those guys would likely net the same results for 1/33 of Lowe’s salary. Add to that, at this rate, even with a 4 man rotation in the post-season, Lowe is likely the odd man out. Certainly not in the roation if Fredi goes 3 man.
Minor’s ERA is 4.59 and he’s averaging 5.1 IP per start. Lowe is averaging 5.2 IP per start.
So the real question to counter your question, is when was the last time Wren or JS had 2 options in waiting in the wings that could like give the same result as an overpriced veteran that were both ready to step in?
But stop acting like the thought of trading Lowe mid-season is the same as trading Glavine, Smoltz or Maddux mid-season.
Is Lowe likely to get traded? Probably not unles like I said, it is part of a “bigger” plan. But it’s not impossible based on past decisions like you say.
Until the Tex trade, JS had never traded 5 prospects that had as high of ceilings as those prospects did for 1.5 years of a superstar either. JS pretty much NEVER traded elite prospects that were worth a damn for guys he didn’t think he could re-sign longterm.
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
4:22 am
sic ‘en N8
N8
July 18th, 2011
4:25 am
Haven’t scrolled back far enough yet nolie….
what’s your “short take” on the possibility of Wren moving Lowe mid-season?
noleeee
July 18th, 2011
4:30 am
likely pretty much same as yours. unlikely unless another deal is in the works for which he needs payroll flexibility. I don’t think he’ll do it just to dump payroll. but hey the guy surprises sometimes so who knows?
N8
July 18th, 2011
4:39 am
Then I’m not crazy? LOL.
Obviously, during the off-season, I think he would dump him for little or nothing, simply to make room for either Medlen, Minor or Teheran. Assuming that Minor isn’t the arm going the other way in a soon to be mid-season trade for a bat.
But I’m also of the belief that he’s not going to trade his first 1st round pick as GM (Minor) unless it’s for a huge bat that’s under control for similar length that Minor would be under control for (3-4 more seasons).
I know it seems highly unlikely, but I have a gut feeling that if Wren’s intentions are to move Lowe this off-season anyhow, and he REALLY wanted to call up Teheran to start every 5th day in the next few weeks, that he might even consider moving Lowe to bullpen for stretch run and certainly use him out of the pen in the post-season.
It’s a tough call, because clearly he seems like the 5th best starter in the rotation at this time. But knowing how “money” he’s been in the post-season, it’s a toss up on whether he’d start him over say Beachy come playoffs.
But to just “move him” now to make room for Minor or Teheran is highly unlikely. Unless like we agree, it’s to make room to take on a contract similar to Lowe’s. In both dollars and length of deal.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a Go)
July 18th, 2011
5:23 am
Comparing Derek Lowe to Doyle Alexander? Yes. Because unlike the nonsense written by N8 I happen to actually know who Alexander is. His record was 5-10 when traded with an ERA of 4.13.
I also happen to do my homework, unlike N8 who makes it a habit to talk out his a-ss most of the time. I mean, aren’t you the same rabid blogger who swore up and down for days one end as to why Roger McDowell would be fired? That prediction didn’t hold water.
Apparently 24 years of history didn’t register with you at all. So I’ll be blunt. In two weeks, Derek Lowe will still be pitching for my Braves and you can take your anger issues to a shrink. Good day sir.
ncscoots
July 18th, 2011
7:55 am
[if Wren] REALLY wanted to call up Teheran to start every 5th day in the next few weeks,
Think that’s kinda unlikely. Teheran threw 140 last year, and I doubt they would want him throwing September starter innings this year. Too possible that his arm would be fatigued at exactly the wrong time of year, that is, if you were willing to pile innings on him, in the first place.
In the minors, they can manage his innings much more effectively and maybe get him ready for next year. Everybody here but me wants to see him with the big club next year, right, LOL?
MikeInFl
July 18th, 2011
8:00 am
Everybody here but me wants to see him with the big club next year, right, LOL?
Not me, ’scoots. Things are moving a little quick for many of our young arms, IMO.
As to Lowe, I think Wren would trade him in a heartbeat if he can do so without eating too much of his salary. Minor is as ready as he’s gonna get, and Martinez is a decent fallback position.
Trojan
July 18th, 2011
8:03 am
I like Lowe but he is our LEAST dependable starter and he is by far the most expensive. If Frank can dump him, he will in a second.
ncscoots
July 18th, 2011
8:11 am
In a vacuum, a trade of Lowe seems chancy, in the context of this season alone. Regardless of any struggles this year, he’s still a vet who is more likely than not to answer the bell when it signals crunch time. I know youth must be served and all, but the thought of down the stretch with a couple of rooks at the back end does not a warm fuzzy feeling make.
Now, if Lowe is traded and there is some follow-on offensive move, that changes the dynamic. Then, any loss in run prevention ability might be made up by the addition of some run creation ability. Lots of ways to go about this whole thing, but I don’t know that a Lowe trade is a no-brainer.
Ease
July 18th, 2011
8:18 am
scoots…Shhhhhhhhh. That is not what people want to hear, and you know this.
MikeInFl
July 18th, 2011
8:27 am
I would assume that moving Lowe would be accompanied by a move for offense. It would also give Wren some flexibility to go after a guy now who is under contract for 2012. Right now, he’s probably limited to 2-month rental guys because I doubt he has much play at all in the ‘12 payroll.
But yeah, it’s a big deal to upset one of the best rotations in baseball, so I’ll back off my “in a heartbeat” sentiment.
Jay Dubu
July 18th, 2011
8:32 am
D. Lowe needs to go out and pitch like the veteran that he is tonight, and earn the #1 starter spot that the Braves signed him to.
TommyP
July 18th, 2011
8:45 am
MikeInFl: Kawakami is off the books next year. ($7 mil) McLouth is off the books next year. ($1.25 buyout) Trade Lowe and you just cleared $15 mil more)
McLouth is due to make $10+ next year but we’ll gladly take that buyout.
ncscoots
July 18th, 2011
8:45 am
Ease, it’s OK. Nobody listens to me, anyway. I do this strictly for my own entertainment.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
July 18th, 2011
8:46 am
in the minors, they can manage his innings (Teheran) much more effectively and maybe get him ready for next year. Everybody here but me wants to see him with the big club next year, right, LOL?
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Yes sir ncscoots. Come November I want Derek Lowe pitching for someone else, not because of the man himself, but because 15 million can be better spent elsewhere during the off season. Then Teheran and Minor can battle it out for the fifth spot during spring training of 2012. As for right now the last thing I want is for the best pitching staff in baseball to take a hit over payroll. Not to mention upsetting the entire Braves clubhouse.
Efrim
July 18th, 2011
8:49 am
Not sure if it will be easier for Wren to trade Lowe now, or in the offseason. In the offseason, Detroit may take a step back and realize that they want more of a top flight arm to pair with Verlander. That may not be available to them now, so they might settle with a vet like Lowe. I think if Wren can get the team to take on enough money so he can go get a bat this month, then he’ll do it. I don’t think he trades any pitching prospects of value before 7/31.
Efrim
July 18th, 2011
8:56 am
Kawakami is off the books next year. ($7 mil) McLouth is off the books next year. ($1.25 buyout) Trade Lowe and you just cleared $15 mil more)
If payroll remains around the 92 million mark, Wren isn’t going to have more than 8-10 million to spend this offseason. Even with Kenshin and McLouth off of the books. Arb. raises to Jurrjens, Prado and EOF take care of a good bit of that, and remember that we now have Dan Uggla getting a solid salary increase.
O.J.
July 18th, 2011
9:08 am
TommyP, you cannot just trade Lowe and get 15 million, Frank is going to have to kick in some money to trade Lowe.
Brian from SC
July 18th, 2011
9:10 am
A little standings trivia this morning, somewhat inspired by the resurgent Pirates. Care to take some guesses, without looking them up?
1. Who are the only two teams that have NEVER won 95 or more games in a season? (Neither have ever finished in first place)
2. Besides the two teams from #1, what is the only other team that has NEVER finished in first place?
3. Of the remaining teams who have finished in first place at some point, who has gone the longest since doing so?
4. The Braves, Yankees, and Cardinals, all consistently good franchises in this era, all finished in last place in 1990. Who are the only two teams whose most recent last place finish was before 1990? This may surprise you. (All teams in MLB have finished last at some point)
5. Which team hasn’t had a really bad (95+ losses) team in 98 years?
ncscoots
July 18th, 2011
9:11 am
Then Teheran and Minor can battle it out for the fifth spot during spring training of 2012.
If that holds true, that will an awfully inexperienced staff. Even Hanson won’t have as many as 100 big-league starts, and Jurrjens will barely have that many. Add a second-year starter and another rook, and, well, let’s just hope they are all as good as we hope they are.
CB
July 18th, 2011
9:13 am
Frank Wren trades Lowe and gets another team to tale all of Lowe’s contract he should be voted GM of the year. Not going to happen.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
July 18th, 2011
9:14 am
Efrim, if you look at the off season free agent market for outfielders, it’s uninspiring to say the least. The big free agents are at 1st base and SS.
Brian from SC
July 18th, 2011
9:16 am
In 2008, the Rays won the AL East despite have zero pitchers with 100 major league starts going into the season (Kazmir began the year with 98). Last year, they won it again, with just one pitcher going into the season with 100+ starts (James Shields).
CB
July 18th, 2011
9:17 am
scoots, would that be a big issue in the last two months? Playoffs are usually 3 pitchers, can’t believe Braves would give the ball to Lowe ahead of Hanson, JJ, or Hudson.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
July 18th, 2011
9:20 am
If that holds true, that will an awfully inexperienced staff. Even Hanson won’t have as many as 100 big-league starts, and Jurrjens will barely have that many. Add a second-year starter and another rook, and, well, let’s just hope they are all as good as we hope they are.
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The very same thing could have been said about those great pitching staffs of the early nineties. You know, those youngsters named Glavine, Smoltz, Avery and Pete Smith. They did pretty well with the only veteran being Leibrandt.
TommyP
July 18th, 2011
9:21 am
Detroit is a big spender. Lowe has $6 mil left on that contract for this year. Wren would’ve had to kick in a ton if he dealt him in January of this year but it should be easier now. Especially to a big-spending contender like Detroit.
Won