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Bat Masterson
June 30th, 2011
6:37 pm
Just incase I have not been clear here I’m not advocating for a hurricane, okay. Just passing on to T some things I have heard people say.
phil
June 30th, 2011
6:38 pm
Don’t ever try to reason with nolee or lollygagger…good grief.
phil
June 30th, 2011
6:38 pm
Bat – good luck being clear with some….amazing.
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
6:40 pm
anyone think, after recent struggles, that Freeman actually could end up being a better long-term asset for the Braves than will Heyward? I know he’s still waaaaay young and could very well become a Hall of Famer… but he has been sort of injury-prone thus far. Just making conversation- I’m not saying he sucks, so go easy!
jeffrey d
June 30th, 2011
6:40 pm
Wait, Bat thinks it’d be funny to have a hurricane cause massive damage?
phil
June 30th, 2011
6:41 pm
Nolee – fair enough…agreed. It’s dropped. I can’t drop it with Lolly though since i’m dead to her.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
June 30th, 2011
6:41 pm
McCann is smoking hot. Hitting is contagious. We have a favorable July schedule.
I like it.
TennesseePaul
June 30th, 2011
6:41 pm
Because just like last year, trading for somebody of Rick Ankiel’s ability just isn’t going to cut it. Wren needs to be bold, but not stupid.
Agreed. Besides, with that worthless Schafer on the team, they already have a Rick Ankiel.
nolee
June 30th, 2011
6:42 pm
by reason with , you mean get me to accept your version of what you think I said?
Classic transference there dude.
No matter how frigging defensive you are I will repeat it one more time. it had nothing to do with you,
but it is certainly becoming that way.
Bat Masterson
June 30th, 2011
6:42 pm
phil_
I try
But yeah moving on.
Earl Williams
June 30th, 2011
6:43 pm
Phil, I believe he may have been impacted in ways we never know. I left Florida for many reasons-New Yorkers, shoot outs, geriatric Early Birders,gridlock on 95 and one of the reasons was a scientist friend of mine in 02 actually convinced me Florida would be devasted by hurricanes. I can’t even imagine how the people coped with not only the event but the aftermath of no power , soaring temperatures, brutal humidity , shortages and the like.
I’m not a big fan of Nolee and he might come on here and tell me “I don’t need your help”, but I say let’s cut him a break on this one.
phil
June 30th, 2011
6:43 pm
Agreed, lolly, in spite of being dead to you…FF might well end up being better…he clearly is this yr.
CB
June 30th, 2011
6:44 pm
Uhhh, how about those Braves?
nolee
June 30th, 2011
6:44 pm
We know that Bat, you explained that earlier and even though I asked to be sure i did not want to think that you were.
cya later
cabravesfan
June 30th, 2011
6:44 pm
Y’all are hurting my brain.
phil
June 30th, 2011
6:46 pm
Earl – i wasn’t not cutting a break to nolee…i perhaps misinterpreted what was said and was standing up for someone else more than anything…and myself…my heart goes out to them all.
Enough about it now…
Bat Masterson
June 30th, 2011
6:46 pm
cya nolie
phil
June 30th, 2011
6:47 pm
Now cabravesfan is advocating…..nevermind.
cabravesfan
June 30th, 2011
6:47 pm
I’m not advocating anything…just letting you know
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
6:48 pm
phil-
Niether nolee nor myself ever said we didn’t understand why you thought were saying hurricanes could be good for business. I understand perfectly clear why some would say that- but just because I understand the idea doesn’t mean I have to agree with it. Look, we all have the same rights to think and say what we want.. I just happen to believe that hurricanes are good for nuthing but misery, heartache and loss of power and roof for weeks on end. And I’m entitled to think that. Tell you what- next time we have a Cat 4 or 5 bearing down on my house, why don’t you and I switch homes for a bit? We’ll see if you still think the thought of hurricanes isn’t abhorrent. Not attacking- just speaking for the minority in this issue.
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
6:50 pm
and I’m a him, Phil.
T for Texas
June 30th, 2011
6:54 pm
Not advocating Tommy Hanson, bacon, or USC football, cabravesfan?
phil
June 30th, 2011
6:54 pm
Hear you, Lolly….
I do think the thought is abhorrent. Believe me. Am i alive again?
Murph
June 30th, 2011
6:54 pm
Murph– You still think Kemp is a FA after this year? – Big Nick
No, 2013.
Murph- You still think I’m a horse’s patoot? – Big Nick
Yup.
Murph- Why did my dad leave in the middle of the night and never come back? – Big Nick
Because you throw like a girl.
That’s it, no more questions!
phil
June 30th, 2011
6:56 pm
Mr. lolly….
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
6:57 pm
yeah, phil. I’m a big boy, so I’ll let you live. All good with me- hurricane talk gets me riled up, so I’ll move on to just baseball now. Curious: why’d you assume I was a girl?
phil
June 30th, 2011
7:00 pm
Sigh….the reaction to my even saying hurricane and why some welcome stuff like that….pure stereotype on my part of the overreacting female….dead wrong way to react but that’s the truth…but heck, i’m often an overreacting male.
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
7:02 pm
If Heyward can find a magic pill to stay healthy- man, Heyward and Freeman will be a pretty bad-a** combo for years to come. I can see Heyward in the 3-hole and Freeman in the 4-hole permanently next season after Chipper hangs ‘em up. Or make an Uggla sandwich with them… Heyward – Uggla – Freeman.
phil
June 30th, 2011
7:03 pm
And lolly sounds like holly…kinda siisy-like….just kidding.
phil
June 30th, 2011
7:03 pm
Sissy…
Sissy boy.
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
7:04 pm
phil-
well, you know what happens when you assume…
phil
June 30th, 2011
7:04 pm
An Uggla sandwich….sigh…
I prefer him sitting between FG and LP…
phil
June 30th, 2011
7:05 pm
Yes…yes, i do.
T for Texas
June 30th, 2011
7:09 pm
NBA and NFL lockouts? So much for operating in the public’s best interest….
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
7:11 pm
Lord, just saw the Mike Cameron news. I suppose the Braves will go after him now, since they considered trading for/signing him a year or two ago. Question is- would he really be any better than McLouth or Shafer? I know what my answer is…hopefully Braves’ management answers the same.
Soph
June 30th, 2011
7:11 pm
Whaaaaaaat?
The Home Run Derby will have captains for the first time.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6725133
Mixxo
June 30th, 2011
7:14 pm
Hey, it’s the commiserating, happy hour crew!
*bellie’s up to the blog*
jeffrey d
June 30th, 2011
7:15 pm
That’s neat…I like it
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
June 30th, 2011
7:15 pm
Sometimes it’s best to look beyond the numbers. Like Jordan Schafer’s .222 BA and .295 OBP.
The reality is that he’s reached base in 23 of the 32 games played so far. Not to mention his defensive presence and nine stolen bases. Or that the Braves have won 21 of the 32 games Schafer has played in. The kid has played better than his numbers reflect.
Powder Blue
June 30th, 2011
7:15 pm
“Lord, just saw the Mike Cameron news. I suppose the Braves will go after him now, since they considered trading for/signing him a year or two ago.”
Wren said he’s standing pat. Signing Mike Cameron would certainly be equivalent to standing pat.
Sopheee
June 30th, 2011
7:16 pm
Vote Mac & Marteeeen for the ASG. Voting ends today!
http://www.mlb.com
T for Texas
June 30th, 2011
7:16 pm
No kidding, Soph. That HR derby thing is silly. How long before the winning league in the Derby gets to start the World Series with a 1 game advantage? Geeeesh.
jeffrey d
June 30th, 2011
7:19 pm
Guess it’s just me
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
June 30th, 2011
7:19 pm
Mike Cameron is 38 and well past his prime. The last thing we need is another aging, injury prone, over the hill veteran.
Powder Blue
June 30th, 2011
7:20 pm
“Vote Mac & Marteeeen for the ASG. Voting ends today!”
I’ve already cast 25 ballots on McCann’s behalf.
nolee
June 30th, 2011
7:23 pm
so a guy who had hit say 260/360 wouldn’t have been an improvement over Jordan, coach? and have likely improved the W-L %?
making outs over 70% of the time is acceptable in a lead off hitter?
hmmm
T for Texas
June 30th, 2011
7:24 pm
JD, it cracked me up when I saw that you like the new HR Derby format. Well, brohawks and Derby races aside I do agree with you on most things–we’ll jsut have to overlook those two. LOL
tiger297
June 30th, 2011
7:25 pm
T for Texas – wait I thought the lockouts were for the greater good of the people…we can focus on baseball now.
Big Nick
June 30th, 2011
7:26 pm
Murph—You STILL got it wrong you know it all moron. 2012
jeffrey d
June 30th, 2011
7:26 pm
I said I thought it was neat, not that it was the greatest thing to happen to organized sports ever.
Furman Bitcher
June 30th, 2011
7:27 pm
Cameron = Garrett Anderson
nolee
June 30th, 2011
7:27 pm
oh c’mon jeffrey, you know that you do think that….
Furman Bitcher
June 30th, 2011
7:28 pm
It bear repeating that The only thing troubling for Philly should be that they only have 35 more home games where they have dominated with 45 more on the road where they have played close to .500 ball. The Braves have 42 left at home where they have played well. Its on baby and it will tighten up.
nolee
June 30th, 2011
7:28 pm
who was it that campaigned for Cameron for years? was that DAP? I wonder if he will jump on the get Cam express now?
T for Texas
June 30th, 2011
7:28 pm
Thanks for the perspective, tiger. I did not realize the world was clearing the slate for year-round baseball. Awesome.
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
7:29 pm
Powder Blue-
yeah, but I take pretty much everything Wren says with a tad bit of skepticism. It’s just GM speak when he says he’s standing pat. Read “standing pat” to mean “other teams haven’t accepted our trade offers yet, or it’s too early and no one’s dealing right now.”
Powder Blue
June 30th, 2011
7:33 pm
Lollygagger,
Point taken, and I agree that some type of acquisition will be made. I don’t think it’ll be a big move, however.
nolee
June 30th, 2011
7:38 pm
I think for the most part Frank has been pretty close to what he says….
I hope I’m wrong, but as long as the Braves are winning I doubt that we will see anything bid in a trade.
nolee
June 30th, 2011
7:41 pm
bid = big
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
7:42 pm
Powder and nolee-
yep, absolutely agree that as long as team is winning I doubt we see more than a tweak here and a tweak there. Nothing major. I was just by cynical about Frankie boy. Cynicism is like a second language to me
Lew
June 30th, 2011
7:47 pm
A friend asked me a really serious question I can’t answer, but someone here always knows anything you could ask.
Who knows what happens if you let a house go to foreclosure.
Lew
June 30th, 2011
7:48 pm
Beyond the obvious that you would have to move out, of course.
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
7:50 pm
Lew- bank overtakes house, then turns around and sells it because banks obviously aren’t set up to own homes. As far as the defaultees, I don’t know what goes on with them. Never been there, don;t know anyone who has, and hope I never will…
jeffrey d
June 30th, 2011
7:52 pm
I bought a foreclosure. Bank must’ve been in a hurry to get rid of it, because the price dropped rapidly over 3 months
Lew
June 30th, 2011
7:53 pm
Lollygagger- Thanks. Wish I didn’t know anyone who needed to, but it’s looking bad.
Lew
June 30th, 2011
7:54 pm
Of course, they owe twenty or more years on it, so I guess much of it would just be interest they don’t get.
Murph
June 30th, 2011
7:54 pm
Murph—You STILL got it wrong you know it all moron. 2012 – Big Nick
Semantics, dingleberry.
Murph- I’m attracted to you. – Big Nick
I’m flattered, but that’s not my thing. Thanks anyways.
jeffrey d
June 30th, 2011
7:55 pm
Don’t know what happened with the family though.
CB
June 30th, 2011
7:55 pm
Lew,person can still be responsible for amount that loan exceeds what bank sells it for,can also have tax penalties and obviously hurts credit score.
abeeeewright
June 30th, 2011
7:55 pm
I remember back when the stimulus was being passed that an economist came on a talk show and said, “We should spend all this money paying builders to destroy existing homes. That will get us back to growth faster than anything else.”
The rest of the panel looked at him, nonplussed.
How right he was.
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
7:57 pm
Lew- I would imagine there is some sort of court procedure they’ll need to go through to “settle” the issue. I would assume they’d be responsible for part of the principle and none of interest. But like said, no experience with that.
Lew
June 30th, 2011
7:57 pm
CB – Credit rating is the least of their worries. What kind of tax penalties?
Lew
June 30th, 2011
7:59 pm
The house is probably worth the principle – or close to it – maybe not that far from complete payout of full balance, maybe as much as $20 thou less.
Bravefaninok
June 30th, 2011
7:59 pm
I would be for taking a flyer on Mike Cameron as a 4th OFer he can play all 3positions decently .
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
8:00 pm
CB droppin’ the knowledge. Defaultees responsible for amount of loan sales price does not cover makes sense. Good stuff, now I know.
CB
June 30th, 2011
8:04 pm
Lew,believe it or not, if a house sells for less than is owed it can be considered as income by IRS. may want to check with an accountant on this, i know someone this happened to.
gdub
June 30th, 2011
8:04 pm
Lew–The house ultimately gets sold by the bank. The people who walk on the loan get a 1099 filed on the the next tax season for the difference between what they owed and what it was sold for. The IRS regards it as money gained by the defaulter. If they make $100,000 and the house sells for 50K they pay tax on 50K.
CB
June 30th, 2011
8:06 pm
Lollygagger,CB usually drops his bowling ball on his foot
Whoop
June 30th, 2011
8:06 pm
The reality is that Schafer sucks as a hitter.
Lew
June 30th, 2011
8:07 pm
Thanks all – appreciate the info. Hope they don’t need to go that route. Luckily, when all the re-fi’s were happening, they only did it once and just for enough to make repairs (them damned hurricanes again) and a new heat pump system and did it for a relatively decent fixed rate.
abeeeewright
June 30th, 2011
8:14 pm
CB and gdub, y’all are basically saying that the amount that the home-owner “gets out of” is considered income. And, considering that the bank gave the home-owner the principal in the house purchase, this makes sense, since the money wasn’t taxed as income at the time that the house was purchased.
nolee
June 30th, 2011
8:19 pm
I remember back when the stimulus was being passed that an economist came on a talk show and said, “We should spend all this money paying builders to destroy existing homes. That will get us back to growth faster than anything else.”….ABW
than’s what a lot of the local governing body down here wants to do. raze an older section and rebuild, but in this economy who is gonna afford to buy all the new bigger homes when houses that are already standing and in very good shape can’t get resold?
George
June 30th, 2011
8:25 pm
Good evening y’ll
Sopheee 7:11
Whaaaaaaat?
The Home Run Derby will have captains for the first time.
In the old days almost all teams had captains. It would be kinda nice if the Braves would appoint CHIPPER and BRIAN as co-captains.
tiger297
June 30th, 2011
8:26 pm
Lew – make sure to get better understanding of the tax rules. Only way you would owe tax is if you would owe tax on a normal sale at the same price (federal govt doesn’t care about the foreclosure it cares about the sale).
Taxable amount on a sale would be fair market value (whatever the bank sells it for) less tax basis (whatever the initial cost was). As long as it is owned longer than 2 years and primary residence for 2 of last 5 and valued less than 500K no tax impact.
Actually if the price has dropped so that FMV is below purchase price your friend would be entitled to a tax credit for the loss.
tiger297
June 30th, 2011
8:28 pm
nolie – I think the theory is the people who would buy the new houses are the people put to work building them that are currently unemployed. But here you go trying to apply common sense to economic theory.
David O'Brien
June 30th, 2011
8:30 pm
In the 12 games since his five-hit game, Schafer is 7-for-44 (.159) with a .229 OBP, 1 RBI, 2 SB, 4 BB, 13 K, 7 R.
tiger297
June 30th, 2011
8:32 pm
DOB – anybody asked him if he hurt his wrist in that game?
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
8:34 pm
2 SB… see, there’s the speed the Braves have so desperately been missing.
George
June 30th, 2011
8:35 pm
WOW Would you believe poosablely there may be no NFL this fall and maybe no NBA next winter? If that should happen, hope they will televise some winter league baseball from the Islands.
tiger297
June 30th, 2011
8:36 pm
george – thats what I’m hoping for.
Lollygagger
June 30th, 2011
8:38 pm
George- I say let the footballers and basketballers ruin their games. Could be just the thing to give MLB a boost. Although I have to admit, I would miss football a bit. Basketball? Eh, they can keep it. It’s way too overproduced.
tiger297
June 30th, 2011
8:39 pm
lollygagger – its just the NFL we still have college pointy ball
tiger297
June 30th, 2011
8:40 pm
man it is really dead tonight…guess I ran everyone off
George
June 30th, 2011
8:42 pm
I remember [think it was in the mid 80s] there was a winter baseball league made up of retired Major league players, they had to be over 40 years old. the games were televised over MSG network.
George
June 30th, 2011
8:44 pm
They played in ST ballparks in FL.
tiger297
June 30th, 2011
8:45 pm
George – but MSG has fallen out of favor since then. All my asian food advertises no MSG. I’m sure someone would televise them
nolee
June 30th, 2011
8:50 pm
so if them guys buys them homes how are they gonna pay the remaining mortgages after all the new construction is over. 5 years of work does not a 30 year mortgage pay.
George
June 30th, 2011
8:51 pm
There is a live CFL game on tonight on NFL network.
Kat
June 30th, 2011
9:03 pm
Murph …again I’m late to the party (as normal) on the discussion from 4pm as I don’t get on here till after work but if you enjoyed the acoustic version of Everlong try their Skin and Bones album…really good.
jeffrey d
June 30th, 2011
9:03 pm
than’s what a lot of the local governing body down here wants to do. raze an older section and rebuild
Are these just areas of vacant houses?