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Lew
June 29th, 2011
12:28 pm
The pitcher becomes the DH – you can’t put a new DH in there.
Tom O'Hawke
June 29th, 2011
12:29 pm
jeffrey d, scroll back to 12:04
N8
June 29th, 2011
12:29 pm
“Where else we going to get the 90-100 RBI’s that he will probably end the season with?” timthebrave
Most 3 hole hitters end up with 90-100 RBI simply due to their spot in the order.
Besides, Chipper likely will end up with around 80 RBI. Not 90 or a 100.
A healthy Martin Prado would drive in around 110 runs if given 162 games in the 3 hole. Mac would drive in 100 runs in the 3-hole playing in only 135-140 games.
Chipper still has a place on this team and if he doesn’t want to retire I’m cool with that.. But the 3-hole isn’t that place. Dude should be batting 2nd or 5th. He’s just not the force that he used to be and while his numbers this year are a nice bounce-back from his injury plagued season last year….. he’s not going to maintain them.
39 year old guys (that aren’t juiced up), do NOT get better. They decline. As Coach’s post shows. Anybody unwilling to accept that, just isn’t paying attention and is in serious denial.
HOF player (should get in on the first shot imo), and obviously one of the 3 greatest Atlanta Braves of all time (hard to choose between him, Glavine and Smoltz – and you could even throw Murph and Maddux in the mix)….. but he’s not a 3-hole hitter anymore. Hasn’t been for quite some time.
Period.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 29th, 2011
12:30 pm
That was s’posed to post half an our ago…
Tom O’Hawke—
OK, thanks! I didn’t think it had stereo…
Jimmy
June 29th, 2011
12:30 pm
RISP is slightly over rated. I mean, if you have a man at second, and slash a single, yet the runner doesn’t score (hit right at OF hard, blooper, etc), you are still 1-1 RISP. But no run scored.
There got to be a stat that measures the frequency that a player in scoring position ends up scoring.
Am I being too Shaunistic?
George
June 29th, 2011
12:30 pm
Good afternoon y’ll
Good win last night. BRIAN,BRIAN, BRIAN What a year so far. Big hit for JORDAN,
Lew
June 29th, 2011
12:30 pm
MikeinFl – Just goes to show that the stats mean nothing – it’s still wins and losses that count.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 29th, 2011
12:31 pm
Lew—
That you did.
monty I think McFann is a little “punch drunk”or just “plum giddy” with all the accolades being doled out for her fav player.
Too true.
And I need a designated driver anyway—I don’t drive yet. 
Beez
June 29th, 2011
12:31 pm
Thanks Mike. I see we’re also at the bottom in the AB’s in those situations by quite a bit. If this offense starts to pick up at all in the second half, I really like this club matched up against any other.
Afan
June 29th, 2011
12:32 pm
I just heard them tossing Hudson’s name around in trade rumors on xm radio…
MikeInFl
June 29th, 2011
12:32 pm
Lew, I wouldn’t say it shows that stats mean nothing. It does show that no one stat means everything. Anyway, was just posting it because someone asked about it…
Jerry Blooger
June 29th, 2011
12:32 pm
Lew you are correct on the DH rule not that you need my confirmation
Lew
June 29th, 2011
12:33 pm
Afan – Useless speculation. I won’t happen.
MikeInFl
June 29th, 2011
12:34 pm
Beez, yeah, just very few baserunners period. It is amazing what the team has accomplished given the offensive futility. Seems much more likely to get better than worse, doesn’t it?
Lew
June 29th, 2011
12:34 pm
Actually Hudson getting traded won’t happen – doubt I will either, though.
N8
June 29th, 2011
12:34 pm
Hudson is a 10/5 guy and took significantly less money to remain a Brave. Dude’s not going anywhere.
Afan
June 29th, 2011
12:34 pm
i hope not Lew.
Lew
June 29th, 2011
12:35 pm
Jerry Blogger – No problem – I really wasn’t certain. Thanks for the confirmation.
Jimmy
June 29th, 2011
12:35 pm
McFann – Been on here since last September, but have never asked….until now. Are those turtles next to your name?
What’s the story?
Lew
June 29th, 2011
12:36 pm
afan – Well, there’s a few that would like to see me DFAed.
Shaun
June 29th, 2011
12:37 pm
Jimmy, also it’s possible that a team gets a lot of baserunners and hits a lot with runners in scoring position. They score plenty of runs but their averages with RISP don’t look that great.
It’s kind of like the whole LOB statistic. Lots of good teams leave a more than typical number of runners on base simply because good teams, with good offenses, are more likely to get on base.
Afan
June 29th, 2011
12:37 pm
dont the braves play early today??
Tom O'Hawke
June 29th, 2011
12:38 pm
That was s’posed to post half an our ago…
McFann, that was the LONGEST time between post and correction I’ve ever seen. Must be a blog record. We’ll have to check with scoots, he keeps track of stuff like that.
OK, thanks! I didn’t think it had stereo…
If you’re sure there’s only one grate, then no stereo. Unfortunately, you can’t solve the problem the easy way.
Lew
June 29th, 2011
12:39 pm
I just don’t see Wren trading current starting pitching during the season. It’s great we have all those kids like Minor, Teheran and Delgado, but aside from MInor (who we need as a hedge to injury), the others don’t seem quite ready yet and we’ve already used eight starters to get through half a season.
Much more likely that a minor league pitcher be traded.
cabravesfan
June 29th, 2011
12:39 pm
9:39am. Finished work. Bored now.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2011
12:40 pm
Thanks Lew.
Tom – sorry if it was already answered…I was just skimming and noticed your comment and the question came to mind
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2011
12:41 pm
9:39am. Finished work. Bored now.
Dude…
Tom O'Hawke
June 29th, 2011
12:42 pm
Jerry Blogger – No problem – I really wasn’t certain. Thanks for the confirmation. — Lew
HEYYYY!!!! What about MY confirmation?
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 29th, 2011
12:43 pm
Jimmy—
Yes! They are Rally and Lucy McTurtle. Rally made his debut back in July, 2008—I had found a Box Turtle in our backyard, and talked about him on here. That night, the Braves were having a bit of a rough time in LA, so the Blog just kind started talking about my turtle again. The Braves came back and won 9-3, and BMac hit two homers! The denizens called him a rally turtle. So the next day, I figgered out how to make the little Turtle emoticon, and he was named Rally McTurtle.
Lucy…she came either 2009 or ‘10—I think it was ‘09. She was named for St. Lucy because BMac was having the eye problems.
cabravesfan
June 29th, 2011
12:43 pm
jeffrey-
holiday coming up. Our clients are mostly lawyers. Yesterday was just as slow and tomorrow will be even worse (of course, I told my boss I was leaving at noon tomorrow- I’m not leaving until Friday morning- so I really will be done with work early
)
MiaBchBravesFan
June 29th, 2011
12:43 pm
When Dan Marino was at the end of his career, the few flashes he displayed did not deter from the fact that he was done. When you become an unproductive player, your time has come to retire and not be a money grubbing waste of a lineup spot. The only reason Chipper is playing this season is because he is (a) under an expensive contract, and (b) aside from Prado, there is no one in the organization prepared to take his place at third (since we placed all of our $$$ eggs in the Uggla/2B basket).
It would be a piteous sight indeed if Chipper Jones is manning 3B next season – even as a part-timer. The decent thing Chipper would do is to re-work the contract and prorate his final year of salary into some kind of management/consultant position. The stats RemoW cited speaks to the overall abject crap that exists at 3B in both leagues – a cyclical result. The MLB is experiencing a valley when it comes to 3B talent. Placido Polanco at 3B in the All Star game speaks more to ballot stuffing in Philly than true All Star caliber talent.
Jimmy
June 29th, 2011
12:44 pm
Shaun – you are right about a good team scoring, but their RISP might not be great.
I guess you can slice any stat how you want. If a guy is in a 0-15 slump, you can say “easy out” or can say “he is due to break out”. But it all depends on his current at bat – not what he has done in the past.
Beez
June 29th, 2011
12:44 pm
MIke, I suppose it doesn’t HAVE to get better. But, It has to. Right? The problem is that you’ve gotta be thinking a similar thing for the Phillies. However, I do think that the individuals in their lineup are producing at a rate much closer to their career numbers whereas we have quite a few that are well below. And, we’ll get Prado back. I’m excited about the second half. Here’s to no more major injuries in the second half.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 29th, 2011
12:44 pm
Correction! Lucy did come last year…I just opened a random Blog from late last year and I only had one Turtle, and I think she came out in May.
Lew
June 29th, 2011
12:45 pm
Tom – That’s ok. Your comment was appreciated, too.
raleighbravefan
June 29th, 2011
12:45 pm
N8 – If Chipper was healthy (check his stats before knee injury), and considering the rest of team’s stats thus far, where WOULD you bat Chipper(?), and WHO would you bat 3rd?
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 29th, 2011
12:46 pm
Tom O’Hawke—
Well, I came in to check the Blog, and the “You are posting too quickly” think was up. So I resent the post…didn’t remember it was that or I wouldn’t have resent it.
Unfortunately, you can’t solve the problem the easy way.
Curses…so should I not bother with the menu thing now…?
Shaun
June 29th, 2011
12:47 pm
Just goes to show that the stats mean nothing – it’s still wins and losses that count.
The performance of players, which is largely the reason a team wins or loses, is what counts and a lot of player performance can be measured.
Is it meaningless that the Braves are the second-best team in the NL at preventing runs? Is it meaningless that the pitchers’ stats are impressive? Are there many teams that were one of the top 3-4 teams in their leagues that weren’t good at either preventing runs, scoring runs or both? If you find a bunch and you find that there is no correlation between certain stats and winning, I’ll agree that stats mean nothing. Until then, I’ll pay attention to the appropriate stats.
Jimmy
June 29th, 2011
12:49 pm
McFann – Thanks for the info. I couldn’t make it out to anything but turtles. Thought you might be a marine biologist.
“The sea was angry that day, my friends. Like an old man returning his soup in a deli.”
Thanks for sharing.
Lew
June 29th, 2011
12:50 pm
Shaun – What IS meaningful is that the Braves are a winning team, with one of the best records in all of MLB and are within shouting distance of the NL East Division Title half way through the season.
How they got there is totally immaterial.
Scrub21
June 29th, 2011
12:50 pm
co-sign N8 12:29
Nice work my friend.
raleighbravefan
June 29th, 2011
12:52 pm
MBF@12:43 – I respect your opinion (I guess), or at least your right to your opinion, but I TOTALLY disagree, unless Chipper is injured, or drops off a lot more that he currently has. “money grubbing waste”, and “the decent thing” comments are, frankly, total crap.
Jimmy
June 29th, 2011
12:54 pm
Lew – consider this confirmation that both Jerry Blogger and Tom O’Hawke have been confirmed.
brian
June 29th, 2011
12:54 pm
as far as Hudson trade rumors go, N8 said it best – as a 10/5 veteran who took less money to remain a Brave, dude is going no where
Tom O'Hawke
June 29th, 2011
12:55 pm
Curses…so should I not bother with the menu thing now…? — McFann
If you’re 100% sure of only one grate, then it wouldn’t do any good. However, if you’re not positive, then I have a way to answer the question.
If you can get to the back of your set, then read the plate on the back (assuming that’s where it is on your model). Give me the name of the set and the model number.
If you can’t get access to the back, then look at your remote. If it came with the TV, then it would have the same name on it. Just above the name someplace, will be a model number (of the remote). Give me that and I can do the same thing.
Lew
June 29th, 2011
12:55 pm
Thanks Jimmy – Confirmation of confirmation of the confirmations is appreciated.
Shaun
June 29th, 2011
12:56 pm
Lew, I understand that you don’t really care how the Braves have posted their current won-loss record and how they are withing shouting distance. My argument is with you point about statistics being meaningless.
brian
June 29th, 2011
12:56 pm
N8 is on fire today – great post at 12:29. I would love to see Chipper batting second with Mac hitting right behind him. Chipper handles the bat great and will see great pitches with BMac hitting behind him
UKUGA
June 29th, 2011
12:57 pm
Two very entertaining baseball games so far in Seattle. Let’s hope the Braves don’t get the “getaway day itch” and fail to show up today.
Even though I’m not on board with the concept that 3 runs in 6 innings is a “quality start”, Hanson’s performance last night, was still nonetheless, a “quality performance.”
I say that in light of the fact that he bounced back strongly after a rough start, keeping the team in the game and giving them a chance to come back against a young, talented starter in Pineda.
Dan Uggla’s homer was huge. It woke the team up a bit. That’s the beauty of power. In theory, you should always be able to come back. A home run like that can really give a team a shot in the arm. The last few years, when we’ve lacked that kind of pop, that ball is a warning track out (caught most frequently by Shane Victorino, it seemed). While none of us are satisfied with Uggla’s over-all production, seeing him, Freeman, McCann, etc., step up and poke one over the fence with decent regularly is sure a nice feeling as a fan.
We’re coming around offensively. The pitching is great.
We’re still gonna lose to the Phillies in the LCS, but hey, at least we’ll be there.
Go Braves!
Murph
June 29th, 2011
12:58 pm
obviously one of the 3 greatest Atlanta Braves of all time (hard to choose between him, Glavine and Smoltz – and you could even throw Murph and Maddux in the mix)
I’m too humble sometimes. You’re right, though. I am one of the greatest. Easily.
Tom O'Hawke
June 29th, 2011
12:59 pm
Lew – consider this confirmation that both Jerry Blogger and Tom O’Hawke have been confirmed. — Jimmy
Now you’re talking, George (funny line).
It took 25-30 seconds out of my life to read that rule, after Lew’s 12:04 post.
Snotboogie
June 29th, 2011
1:00 pm
Two very entertaining baseball games so far in Seattle. Let’s hope the Braves don’t get the “getaway day itch” and fail to show up today.
At this time of the year, I dont think anyone should be in a hurry to get away from Seattle to hot and humid Atlanta.
timthebrave
June 29th, 2011
1:00 pm
N8, I was talking about Chipper producing not about where he is batting in the lineup
MFin04
June 29th, 2011
1:01 pm
Nice comeback win last night, but this offense stills needs some help. No one really producing that well. Chipper has been off, as well as Heyward, Uggla, and A-Gon. Freeman is a rookie who is playing well and McCann is carrying this team as of late. Schafer and McLouth are nice defensive players with speed, but offensively aren’t doing that much to help this team.
Currently we have basically one good/great offensive player, the rest are just below average. Tough to score runs when your one player has to have a 4-hit night for you to win games.
Lew
June 29th, 2011
1:01 pm
Shaun – The value of stas depends entirely on what you use the stats for.
As to wins and losses, they are what count in the final evaluation. I never particularly agreed with Francoeur’s statement about “baseball card stats”, but he had a point – the Division Winners and World Series winners are not determined by OBP. They are not determined by hitting with RISP. They are not determined by WHIP, ERA, K to BB Rate, SLG% or any park adjusted stat – they are determined by who wins and not by how they won.
So yeah – they are pretty meaningless unless you’re playing in a fantasy league or are a consideration for an individual post season award.
brian
June 29th, 2011
1:02 pm
Hanson’s effort was quality last night – he started rough (got hit hard early – fastball up in the zone and poor control of his off speed pitches) but he gutted it out and got comfortable. The last few innings he looked like the dominating Tommy Hanson – getting strikeouts. I also loved how he was into the game – cheering on BMac’s big hit, etc.
UKUGA
June 29th, 2011
1:02 pm
“At this time of the year, I dont think anyone should be in a hurry to get away from Seattle to hot and humid Atlanta.”
That depends on where their wives/girlfriends are.
timthebrave
June 29th, 2011
1:03 pm
Speaking of Murph….I wish the voters would get it right and put Dale Murphy into the hall of fame. Besides Andre Dawson I can’t think of any other outfielders that dominated like Murph in the 80’s. Someone needs to convince the other voters. I know his numbers aren’t obvious but numbers aren’t everything IMO
TennesseePaul
June 29th, 2011
1:04 pm
39 year old guys (that aren’t juiced up), do NOT get better. They decline.
I think Hall of Famers, generally speaking, are exceptions to the rule. It’s what makes them hall of famers.
Hank Aaron at 38: .265/.390/.514/0.904 34 HR
Hank Aaron at 39: .301/.402/.643/1.045 40 HR
Now Chipper could be done for his career. Or he could really be smurfing from that knee injury. His L/R splits are wider than they’ve ever been and since his injury flair up his LHB has been dropping.
It could be that surgery, rest and rehab is necessary for a strong second half. Time will tell. I believe though he is largely hanging around for more shots at the post season. I think that drives him more than the contract money.
cabravesfan
June 29th, 2011
1:04 pm
That depends on where their wives/girlfriends are.
A number of them were on the trip
N8
June 29th, 2011
1:04 pm
“N8 – If Chipper was healthy….. raleighbravefan
You can stop right there pretty much. We shouldn’t have been surprised that Chipper worked his tail off to get in the best shape a “clean” 39 year old could be in to prepare for a season. He should be commended for that and early in the year, he WAS raking just fine and looked like he was going to have a comeback player of the year type season.
However, we should also not be surprised that now that summer is here and we are at the halfway point of the season, that the 39 year old dude is breaking down and not quite hitting like he was to start the season.
Could he get healthy again by resting and have stretches of brilliance along the way towards the end of the season? Absolutely. I’m not denying that.
Should we expect him to BE healthy the rest of the season and produce the way a 3-hole hitter making 14 million dollars should produce? Absolutely not.
As for who should hit 3rd? What more does Mac have to do to prove he’s the best hitter on this team as it’s currently constructed.
You bat your best hitter 3rd. At least I would until Heyward decides to start playing like all the pundits said he would.
MikeInFl
June 29th, 2011
1:05 pm
I really thought Roger’s visit to the mound was key last night (and even posted same during the game, before I gave up on the in-game blog). Hanson was grooving first pitch fastballs to almost every hitter. Seemed to be his plan, and the Mariners were all over it.
Soon as Roger came out, Hanson started throwing curves and sliders first pitch and his luck changed. We probably miss a lot of what coaches do, but I thought last night was clearly a good one for the pitching coach.
Shaun
June 29th, 2011
1:05 pm
MiaBchBravesFan, Chipper has been the fourth-best offensive thirdbaseman in the NL (out of eight qualifiers), according to wOBA. So, while he’s nothing special, he’s still fairly productive.
If you expand the list to guys with 150 PA’s or more (instead of just qualifiers), Chipper is 9th out of 21.
Oh, but stats are meaningless, according to Lew, so what’s the point of me addressing this question. We are supposed to just magically know that Chipper is either good or bad or somewhere in the middle without any sort of evidence.
MFin04
June 29th, 2011
1:06 pm
Chipper isn’t producing.
Last 28 days .236/.282/.417 for your 3 or 4 hitter? That’s scary.
It is also very scary to look at the individual on base % of this team.
McCann at .391
Next Best
McLouth .339
Chipper .338
Freeman .333
Next Best
Prado .324
Heyward .324
Schafer .299
A-Gon .274
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 29th, 2011
1:06 pm
You’re welcome, Jimmy!
Tom O’Hawke—
Hmm…I can’t access the back, and I don’t think we still have the original remote, but maybe the number just happens to be on the front. I do know it’s a Sony…
timthebrave
June 29th, 2011
1:07 pm
MikeInFl
It’s big for a coach to be able to adapt their game plan in the middle of the game and not wait until it’s too late
Jimmy
June 29th, 2011
1:07 pm
UKUGA – Dan Uggla’s homer last night was meaningless. Really, it was.
I read it right here.
Lew
June 29th, 2011
1:07 pm
Nathan – The problem is that Mac should be hitting third, fourth, fifth and sixth. If he’s not, someone of lesser talent has to.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 29th, 2011
1:07 pm
It says, “Trinitron” in the top left-hand corner of the set…don’t know if that means anything…
N8
June 29th, 2011
1:08 pm
T-Paul
Thanks for posting that. Good stuff.
However, we ARE talking about Hank Aaron, right? Secondly, his season at age 38 to 39 was THAT much better. He simply looks to me like he maintained what he was doing and likely had some better luck along the way during his age 39 season (without digging too deeply into it).
Chipper has been on a steadly decline for pretty much 4 years. Is that due to injury? Sure it is.
But that’s part of the decline process. The body simply not allowing a guy to do what he knows how to do, or was capable of doing when younger and healthier.
Chipper didn’t all of the sudden forget how to hit. When Heyward is hurt he hasn’t forgotten how to do the things that got him to the big-leagues at such a young age. The body isn’t allowing him to do it.
I don’t doubt for a second that a healthy Chipper is a fine 3-hole hitter for this team. But he’s not and thus…… he’s not.
Lew
June 29th, 2011
1:08 pm
What’s the point of you addressing the situation? If only you had come to that conclusion years ago.
George
June 29th, 2011
1:09 pm
Not so sure Chipper is done, look at hot streak late last year just before he went down.
timthebrave
June 29th, 2011
1:10 pm
MFin04
Why are you talking of OBP when you are talking about producing. Chipper has 3 less rbi’s than Mccann and nobody else is close and that is including missing time. Don’t give me it’s because he is in the 3 position because he is hitting with runners in scoring position…To me that is a better measure of production
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 29th, 2011
1:10 pm
cabravesfan A number of them were on the trip
That makes sense. If I got a husband who played baseball and was going on a roadtrip to San Diego and Seattle, I’d MAKE him take me…
N8
June 29th, 2011
1:10 pm
Agreed Lew. But you bat him 3rd simply on the chance that he gets one more AB than the 5th or 6th hole hitter late in the game.
We don’t have a “true” leadoff hitter. So if I’m Fredi, and things are going bad (and they ARE going bad offensively), I take my hottest 3 hitters and bat them 1-3. With the guy with the most power in the 3-hole.
It’s not rocket science.
A-Gone should NEVER see a spot higher in the order than 6th. Batting him 2nd on any given night is damn near criminal.
Lew
June 29th, 2011
1:12 pm
Nathan – Not rocket science? I’m sure Shaun can site a study that claims it is.
Jimmy
June 29th, 2011
1:12 pm
Shaun – the way I see it, there are two kinds of statistics. There are the stats that shows current info and is very usable (2 out of 5 males in Florida are named Mike), and there are the stats that show past events (BA, ERA, OBP, etc.) One states facts the other points to what has happened.
N8
June 29th, 2011
1:12 pm
Well played Lew.
Shaun
June 29th, 2011
1:13 pm
Lew, so GM’s and front offices should just ignore stats because, as you put it, wins and losses are all that matter unless you are playing fantasy baseball or are trying to determine who deserves postseason awards?
MFin04
June 29th, 2011
1:14 pm
First off Chipper isn’t producing as of late.
And the on base is just another scary realization of how bad this team is offensively.
Back to Chipper.
What part of a…
.236 batting average
.282 on base %
.417 slugging %
…is producing for the Braves? Especially when you are hitting in the 3 or 4 spot. Those are the numbers you want for your best hitter and your cleanup hitter?
MikeInFl
June 29th, 2011
1:14 pm
Yeah, that wins-and-losses analysis would put Agon over Jose Reyes, wouldn’t it…
Murph
June 29th, 2011
1:16 pm
What’s the lineup for today? Game starts in a couple hours…
AtlYnkHtr
June 29th, 2011
1:16 pm
If you don’t know how you got somewhere and you want to return to that place, it might be kinda hard. So knowing how or why you got to the place you want to be, is kinda important. Just is. So when determining the next free agent outfielder to sign, the GM should look at his wins and losses and stop there?
Lew
June 29th, 2011
1:17 pm
Shaun – The thing is that you pay attention to minutia most of the time and forget to see the big picture – kind of like not seeing the forest for the pine needles.
I said (but you conveniently passed over it) that it depends on what you use the stats for. Right now, if one were to go strictly by statistical evaluation, the Braves should be close to the bottom of their division and not one of the four best teams in MLB. However……….
So what it boils down to is that apparently stats don’t mean a damned thing -0 it’s the onw lost record that does. Stats MIGHT tell you how the team achieved those wins, but then again, maybe they won’t – as is the case with the Braves current hitting statistics.
Sometimes a microscopic, sub atomic analysis at what a player does tells you nothing that matters. Won Lost record always tells you something important.
Gordon
June 29th, 2011
1:18 pm
Kimbrel Venters Moylan EOF Medlen Minor is 6 man BP that enables a bat to be added. Drop the 7th bullpen arm. Bullpens use to be 5 deep now 7 deep. Braves starters are going deep into games. My suggestion would be a two man closer tandem and 4 equally effective setup types set on rotation. Seems like the offense is struggling and the pitching isn’t. Add a bat drop a reliever. So baseball in the modern era needs 7 relievers and for decades and decades and many more decades used only 5 relievers? Just thinking out loud and would like some input
Jimmy
June 29th, 2011
1:19 pm
The bottom line on Chipper is he needs work done on his “good” knee. It is affecting his play. He really can’t sit out after the so-called “calling out” of Heyward. He is trying to play injured.
I think he needs to go on the DL and get the knee taken care of. Use the ASB to his advantage and come back strong in the second half. I think that is what the Braves will do if they can get Prado back fast enough.
Tom O'Hawke
June 29th, 2011
1:19 pm
It says, “Trinitron” in the top left-hand corner of the set…don’t know if that means anything… — McFann
A Sony definitely has the model number on the back. Trinitron is no help. Is your remote a Sony, or a universal remote?
Can you see the back with a hand-held mirror? Of course, you’d have to be able to read backwards.
Tomas
June 29th, 2011
1:20 pm
Alex Gonzalez a hole on the lineup, he just swings at everything, can bunt, or run a liability offensively
raleighbravefan
June 29th, 2011
1:22 pm
Shaun – I see that you have chosen once again to have a p!ssing contest with Lew, and as usual, you are losing (IMO). I can’t speak for Lew, but while you may best me in strength and duration, I can definitely beat you in frequency.
Jimmy
June 29th, 2011
1:22 pm
Tom O’Hawke and McFann – “Can you see the back with a hand-held mirror? Of course, you’d have to be able to read backwards.”
Use two mirrors.
TennesseePaul
June 29th, 2011
1:23 pm
Nathan: Chipper has been on a steadly decline for pretty much 4 years.
I recall people stating as much mid-2005, then Chipper turned it around and went on a roll.
I don’t know if he will this time or not. Neither do you. I’ll admit the odds are against him but that doesn’t mean he should be counted out. I’d like to see what happens if he can get healthy over the all-star break. I wouldn’t be surprised if he came back from a rest and rehab and hit his customary .300/.400/.500 the rest of the way.
N8
June 29th, 2011
1:23 pm
“Chipper has 3 less rbi’s than Mccann and nobody else is close and that is including missing time. Don’t give me it’s because he is in the 3 position because he is hitting with runners in scoring position.” timthebrave
You’re really not buying that spot in the batting order has more to do with RBI totals than actual production?
Chipper has had 74 PA with RISP (35 RBI), and 126 PA with runners on base (38 RBI).
Martin has had 53 PA with RISP (24 RBI), and 90 PA with runners on base (27 RBI).
Chipper has 59 games in the 3-hole, Martin had 48 games batting leadoff.
Are you really going to stand by your argument that spot in the order and who is actually ahead of you in the order has nothing to do with RBI totals?
Chipper had the luxury of having Prado as one of the two guys ahead of him in the order. Prado had the pitchers spots and the 8-hole hitter.
If you flip Chipper and Prado in the leadoff and 3-hole, I guarantee you that the RBI totals are flipped as well.
Lew
June 29th, 2011
1:24 pm
Shaun – Player analysis in putting a team together is something entirely different than looking at how a players’ (or teams’) statistics actually translated to the team’s winning at any particular time.
If I had to make a choice between two players to fill a position, yes, I would use statistical analysis – to a point – I still believe in a human factor – something which you attempt to negate at all times. But to look a stat such as our current OBP obviously does not tell you how well a team is actually playing. Won Lost record actually does.
N8
June 29th, 2011
1:25 pm
T-Paul, I totally agree with you. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if with some good rest, Chipper rebounded and has at the very least a strong start to the 2nd half the way he did to start the season.
I really don’t mean to be pessimistic about it, because I’d like to believe that he’s going to rake and put this team on his back.
But I’m simply afraid that his back can’t take it anymore.
space monkey
June 29th, 2011
1:26 pm
So happy today. The game is on when I can see it. And I get to see King Felix and see what all the fuss is about. Hope Lowe brings what’s left of his A game.
cabravesfan
June 29th, 2011
1:27 pm
Mac dh’ing today
Snotboogie
June 29th, 2011
1:28 pm
Chipper getting a day-off so that he can get two days’ rest. Much needed.
But watch as the idiots say that he is ducking Felix.
AtlYnkHtr
June 29th, 2011
1:28 pm
MikeInFL, so I guess Carlos Ruiz is the better catcher than McCann, you know because he has more wins. Oh well Brian, maybe you can get the MVP next year.
I wonder if someone asks Franceour why the royals have so few wins he would respond with if wins were so important then why aren’t they on the jumbotron?
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 29th, 2011
1:29 pm
Tom O’Hawke—
It’s an AT&T remote—we got it with U-Verse…
Our TV could easily be 2 feet thick…but I guess I could try a hand-held mirror. The cabinet the TV sits in encloses it pretty good, but I could give it a try…
nique
June 29th, 2011
1:29 pm
HEYWARD NEEDS TO BE FINED EVERY TIME HE SLIDES HEADFIRST!!!!!!!!
J-HEY, YOU’RE A SMART GUY, DON’T DO THAT!!!!!