Braves quotes after Monday win over Mariners

***FREDI GONZALEZ

On Beachy having a nice outing

“Yeah, very nice. And a couple of other guys. McCann got three hits against a pretty tough left-hander. And Freddie Freeman. Nate made a helluva catch. Linebrink coming in to get a double-play ball. I think it was a pretty good performance team-wise, really.

“Beachy’s pitch count got a little high, if you’re going to nitpicking on certain stuff. But he was very good.”

20 strikeout in 12 innings since he returned from DL

“His fastball, he’s been able to command it. And he’s been able to throw a curveball, his breaking pitch, and then his changeup just keeps getting better and better.”

On Freeman’s impressive homer

“Especially for a young kid, and especially facing Bedard, a tough left-hander who’s been tough on left-handers. To hit a home run – him and Mac – but for Freddie to hit it to straightaway center in this ballpark, this is not a cheapie. You’ve got to hit it to get it out of here.”

On young Braves players

“It’s nice to see. We’ve got four or five rookies on this team, maybe more, that are battling every ballgame. We’re second place on our division and any day keeping track of the wild card, we’re right there. So it’s good.”

On bouncing back from Sunday’s disappointment at San Diego

“That’s why this game is good, you don’t have to sit around for six, seven days to crank up the next game. Twenty-four hours later, you play another.”

***BRANDON BEACHY

On his performance

“Little upset with myself. I’m wasting too many pitches. I’d like to get deeper in games.”

Yeah, well at least you’re wasting them on strikeouts

“Yeah, I guess. But I really need to get through seven, get seven, into the eighth inning. It’s just something I’ve not been able to do. I’ve got to be more efficient.”

On putting away guys, getting so many strikes

“Just throwing strikes early in counts.”

On facing Bedard

“I didn’t know who I was facing until today. I saw he had some kind of ridiculously good ERA for the last month and half, something like that. I knew it was going to be a battle.”

What are you thinking after Kennedy’s homer in 4th?

“I’m falling behind. I’m getting 3-0, 3-1, and guys are selling out trying to hit fastballs out of the park. I gave it to him. He got one.”

On Brian McCann’s game

“He’s unbelievable. He’s the best there is, isn’t he? Not even with the bat; behind the plate. Especially that pitch to Ichiro. It’s a ball with a guy at third, a pitch I know I can make because I know I’m throwing it in the dirt and I know he’s going to stop it.”

***FREDDIE FREEMAN

On how it felt to hit the go-ahead homer

“It felt good just to put us ahead. With Beachy pitchiing as well as he did, to get him a win – that was really big.”

What, you weren’t going to let McCann do everything?

[laughs] “No, we’ll try to let someone else do something. Mac’s on right now. Curveball, fastball, lefty, righty, he’s hitting ‘em all. It’s awesome to see.”

On homering off a lefty, good power for you against lefties this season

“I got a ball over the plate, we both did, and put a good swing on it, got the barrel on it, put backspin on the ball and the ball went. You don’t think about lefty-righty, you don’t go up there thinking about anything else except trying to hit the ball up the middle.”

On the pitch he hit out

“It was probably up by my letters. My first two at-bats, he threw me first-pitch fastballs and I fouled them off both times. I didn’t want another one to go by, so I tried to get there a little bit earlier.”

The few guys that got to first base against Beachy, what were they saying about him?

“Brandon Ryan said you can’t see his curveball. And that’s all I got out of anybody. I saw the replay and he was just painting. Seems like he’s been that way all year.”

***SCOTT LINEBRINK

On it being a big win after Sunday’s loss

“Oh, you bet. It looked like it was going to be a long one. But Fredi coming up and etting that big home run, gave us the big boost we needed. Had to re-arrange a little bit to try to get Jonny a day off today. It all worked out.”

On Beachy

“Oh, man, he’s got strikeout stuff right now. I know he’d probably prefer to have a little bit more contact. I mean, you look at all the breakdown on his numbers – his ball/strike ratio is phenomenal, 70-percent strikes. Seems like they’re hitting a lot of foul balls. He’s getting ahead of guys and getting the strikeouts, certainly. It just goes to show you how good his other pitches are. I mean, that curveball tonight had some bite on it.”

116 comments Add your comment

reckingball

June 28th, 2011
2:04 am

No Crying tonight

acbwcmm

June 28th, 2011
2:08 am

Good game. A W is a W, right? McCann is on fire right now!!!!!

reckingball

June 28th, 2011
2:12 am

Nothing cheap about great pitching, and HRs.
Great Win.
They need to do it again tonight.

JC Boscan III

June 28th, 2011
2:20 am

Hmmm… Was I the only one who thought Wilkin Ramirez was safe at 2nd with a stolen base on that pickoff…?! Looked like the Mariner tagged him on his shoulder with Ramirez already on 2nd……. With the Braves’ shortage of stolen bases, someone could have argued that one! One thing that Fredi doesn’t seem to do………. Bobby would run (uhhh….jog, maybe) out there to stir things up with the umps sometimes. Fredi just hangs out…….. the earlier call against Freeman at first was wretched….one of the worst blown calls at 1st in a long time. Yet, the Braves passively endure………. Good thing Beachy was superb!!!

Linebrink for Cy

June 28th, 2011
2:28 am

on Seattle’s offense: They are who we thought they were!!

*just don’t go spoiling that DLowe *wink* cause ya know King Félix rarely has a bad outing so you’ll probably have to be matching him zero for zero (he’s 8-6 but in 4 of those losses he gave up 4 earned runs or less) .

Linebrink for Cy

June 28th, 2011
2:30 am

“A W is a W, right?”

the playoffs don’t care about fancy wins or ugly wins just as long as you have enough of them.

Just Wanna Say

June 28th, 2011
2:38 am

Seattle is a good pitching team, so can’t expect too many runs this series. However, runs came by the Homer again. Ill take it of course, but I still want to see more just regular hitting. Trust me, I am not butchering them. I just see a pattern here. That’s all.

retired

June 28th, 2011
2:47 am

JC Boscan III “Braves passively endure” Freddie argued that call on Freeman and they got the call later in the game. Freddie’s just all right with me.

Lobosolo

June 28th, 2011
2:59 am

Way to go, Bravos! Beachy is getting beasty… where are all the whiners after such a game? That was a MAJOR LEAGUE play by Nate… bet that made you whimperin’ game blog armchairs’ behinds pucker up… Kimbrel was just N-A-S-T-Y… and Linebrink made y’all look right stoopid… LOL!!! Great game!

acbwcmm

June 28th, 2011
3:14 am

Linebrink – My point, exactly.

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Larry Parrish

June 28th, 2011
3:45 am

Good win. But even I know that I need to be fired

Larry

June 28th, 2011
4:04 am

Fruity Gonzalez: “It’s nice to see. We’ve got four or five rookies on this team, maybe more,…”

I know it was bad…but THIS bad?

We have a manager that:

Can’t lead, motivate or in any way coach his team to play their best against the weaker teams.

Calls for a suicide squeeze with two strikes on the 6′5″ pitcher, Tommy Hanson, with one out in the second inning, Hinske on 3rd against the Mets down one run in the SECOND INNING resulting in a double play while his LEAD OFF HITTER awaits in the batter’s box?

Can’t fill out an effective lineup and stacks the worst LHP hitting team in the league with, you guessed it, left handers!

Pitches the almost abusively overused Venters in a 6-1 inning one night knowing, or maybe not with Fruity, he had a 1:00 game the very next day?

Bats the 6′5″ 250 lb long swinging Heyward at #2 against a LHP one night and then at LEAD OFF against a LHP the very next night?

Seems dazed, sedate–almost medicated–in the dugout while his players have to argue their own poor calls by the umpires?

I’m tired of typing…hopefully you get the point!

And now he isn’t sure of the # of rookies he has on his roster of just 25 men that he is in charge of managing? Wow! Really, really wow!

Urban Dictionary of “Fruity:” refers to something which is cheerfully and perkily saccharine, naïve, generic, corny, banal, innocuous, un-self-consciously dippy, sexually neutered (or, conversely, having perverse subtexts), or just plain dumb – and is amusing because of it. Dorkiness which doesn’t even know that it’s dorky, but celebrates its own dorkiness anyway: that which is flamboyantly and happily retarded. Closely synonymous with gay, in the not-necessarily-homosexual sense.

Yep, that’s Fredi…Fruity Gonzalez!

Be ye all grateful that Fruity was handed perhaps the best overall pitching staff in the game to mask his Fruitiness! Let us hope even he can’t miss the playoffs with such pitching!

Darryl Blackberry

June 28th, 2011
4:04 am

Don’t expect the Braves to play too many small-ball games until Martin comes back. Without him, we’re going to have to live and die solely by home runs and competitive pitching.

Dirty Dawg

June 28th, 2011
4:04 am

Yeah I thought the Ramirez kid was safe as well and while Fredi didn’t make an issue of it – that pick-off play is generally a routine out call and hard to see from the bench, plus Ramirez didn’t complain much about it, if at all. What I was wondering was why the Braves announcers didn’t make more of it. Seems to me they were talking about something else at the time – nothing that really had to do with the action on the field, which really pisses me off when they do it. At least they could have replayed it and we’d have known.

As for the missed call at first, somebody should have called for an appeal on that one – they guy just simply missed it. If you didn’t see the Detroit game tonight, the first base ump had a brain fart and ended up guessing at a play at first, and guessing wrong. The home plate ump intervened – don’t know if he was asked – and overruled the call. Needless to say Jim Leyland was hot – and got thrown out as a result – but they ended up gettin’ the call right. There ought to be more discussion about these kind of plays, and the need for other umps that see that a call it was obviously wrong, ‘volunteering’ to get involved and not just waiting to be asked. Maybe they ought to have some kind of silent signal – like a shock collar attached to their gonads or something – they could send to the ‘offending’ ump to let ‘em know that they blew the call and needed to ask for help. Anything that would see to it that calls, ultimately, were correct.

Darryl Blackberry

June 28th, 2011
4:06 am

Larry: Given time, Fredi will grow into it. I wouldn’t doubt Bobby Cox was similarly “fruity” when he managed with Toronto and in the early Nineties with Atlanta…

Larry

June 28th, 2011
4:30 am

Darryl,

Grow into it? Seriously?

This is professional baseball; this is a business! The place for “growth” for a MLB manager is at 3rd base or in the minors.

Sometimes guys are simply suited to be a #2, not the head man, and Fruity should be coaching 3rd somewhere that his demeanor is more suited and his judgment can be limited to the “hold” sign or waving a runner home. I think a 3B coach is his ceiling.

Conyers Braves Fan

June 28th, 2011
4:35 am

Larry: Is the 4:04 all of the negative things you can think of to say about FG? Who do you want to hire to replace him?

Larry

June 28th, 2011
4:59 am

Conyers Braves Fan,

We should have hired Joe Girardi a few years back when he voluntarily walked away from the Marlins but we we hung on too long to the past. Girardi, like Terry Francona, Mike Scioscia, Joe Madden, and the now retired Joe Torre are/were all natural leaders with greater aptitude and intellect.

I think Terry Francona is the best in the game!

I haven’t thought about who I’d hire as I know it’s a waste of time now…when it isn’t I’ll let you know!

Johnny Beach

June 28th, 2011
5:44 am

Where would we be without McCann

Gil In Mechanicsville

June 28th, 2011
6:13 am

Bobby Cox might have been a lot of things but fruity is certainly not one of them…

Another Clueless Braves Blogger

June 28th, 2011
6:31 am

Larry, Larry, good morning.

Another Clueless Braves Blogger

June 28th, 2011
6:42 am

Braves will have their work cut out for them the next 2 games: Pineda and Hernandez are two of the best young pitchers in the game. Pineda is a leading candidate for ROY and Hernandez is the reigning Cy Young. If we take one against either of them it will be good, If we take two, we have accomplished something big. BTW, Red Sox vs. Phillies should be an interesting series.

Joel

June 28th, 2011
6:47 am

Larry, I am with you 100%. We are winning inspite of Fredi. I’ve always been a fan of Ned Yost.

Jesse Stone

June 28th, 2011
6:58 am

Francona the best in the game? Give anyone that personnel and they win. I prefer Joe Maddon. I watched the Seattle broadcast of last night’s game. They showed the Ramirez play in super slo-mo (looked like the camera man was sitting on the pitcher’smound). Ramirez was CLEARLY tagged about a foot from the base.

tim

June 28th, 2011
7:01 am

LOOK LITTLE DANNY 62 MIL WAS O-4 AGAIN. WHERE IS ALL THE WELL WISHERS CRYING HE HIT THE BALL HARD HE PLAYING THE GAME THE RIGHT WAY BLAH BLAH BLAH. THE GUY IS A WASTE OF SPACE DUMP HIM AND THOSE THAT SUPPORT HIM. BRING HUBBIE BACK OUT OF RETIREMENT HE IS BETTER WITH THE GLOVE AND I PROMISE HE CAN HIT FOR HIGHER AVG

Another Clueless Braves Blogger

June 28th, 2011
7:09 am

tim: get some exercise

bill

June 28th, 2011
7:23 am

another W and another step closer to the playoffs and thats all that matters.

truth

June 28th, 2011
7:36 am

Terry Francona, Joe Giradi????

Anyone in the league can win with those rosters.

the best in the game is Gardenhire.

Another Clueless Braves Blogger

June 28th, 2011
7:53 am

LAG

June 28th, 2011
8:03 am

Looks like it was a good win (really, what win isn’t?).

Coming into this, we knew we’d see some strong pitching… and all the damage was done by LH batters against the LH starter. Even though, according to some, the team bats negative 2.000 against LH starters and will NEVER beat a LH starter in their existence (oh, wait…).

I’m just sorry I fell asleep before the game ended. Would have loved to see Kimbrel close it out.

bvillebaron

June 28th, 2011
8:06 am

Larry:

Did someone steal the prize from your cereal box when you were a kid or what?

BrianSC

June 28th, 2011
8:23 am

Nice win, Braves!!! Incredible performances, McCann, Freeman, Beachy, and Kimbrell. Outstanding catch, McLouth.

Win today and it is 11 games over .500 at the halfway point.

GO BRAVES!!!

63 year Braves fan

June 28th, 2011
8:36 am

It appears that Freeman is becoming a better hitter than Heywood. More intelligent approach at the
plate. Doesn’t try to pull everything and hits the ball where it is pitched.

ijudgenot

June 28th, 2011
8:42 am

Okay, I was on the bring Ramirez up and let him hit against lefthanders bandwagon. After watching him start against two lefthanders, I’ve changed my mind. He has a looping swing with a big hole in it. He will not make contact enough with power to justify his spot, so lets go to plan B. Remove KK from 40 man roster and put either Gomez or Gartrell on it and call them up to hit against left handers and send Ramirez back to minors.

DaveinNEPA

June 28th, 2011
8:47 am

Ramirez was definitely out on the pickoff play. I had the Seattle feed on extra innings and their replay showed Ramirez was tagged on the left thigh about 1 1/2-2ft before he touched the bag.

bravesgrl4life

June 28th, 2011
8:49 am

Thanks for the quotes, DOB! You rock!

alex

June 28th, 2011
8:55 am

With our pitching,anything is possible-witness winning with FG and uggla and gonzo and whomever(until prado) is in left and etc. Does FW want to take the next step,i.e. give the braves a decent chance to beat the likes of the phillies or red sox or yankees or tigers,etc in a 7 game series?

Let's Go

June 28th, 2011
8:59 am

Did anyone else notice the number of Braves fans at the game last night? They had over 26,000 in Seattle last night and I bet 7,000 of them were wearing Braves hast or jerseys. I was watching the MLB feed which had the Seattle announcers on it and everytime they would show the stands there were Braves fans everywhere. When Freddie hit the home run it sounded like Turner Field on a Monday night.

Not quite as bad as when the Cubs come to Atlanta but very noticeable.

henry from TN

June 28th, 2011
9:02 am

good game…good win…well pitched on both sides…bmac is hot….

Larry

June 28th, 2011
9:20 am

bvillebaron,

Either agree or counter if capable; if not, your hogs need their slop this morning!

reckingball

June 28th, 2011
9:34 am

I was wrong again, about the No Crying today.
The Braves could be 10 games ahead in 1st place, and on a 10 game winning streak.
But someone would find something to complain and Cry about.
I’ll enjoy the 1 game winning streak, and hope they make it 2 in a row.

phil

June 28th, 2011
9:38 am

LOL @ Larry….all the while, keeping in mind that I’m only 2 generations removed from that very thing. Easy, Larry!

How many hits did we end up with last night? I saw a blip somewhere about part of the lineup being 0-18 and just laughed, knowing, without knowing, that Uggly must be a part of it!

Looks like it was a nice win regardless. 10 games over .500. Onward and upward!

phil

June 28th, 2011
9:39 am

reckingball

June 28th, 2011
9:34 am
“I was wrong again, about the No Crying today.
The Braves could be 10 games ahead in 1st place, and on a 10 game winning streak.
But someone would find something to complain and Cry about.
I’ll enjoy the 1 game winning streak, and hope they make it 2 in a row.”

You really expected something different? Come on, my man! Embrace those tears!

reckingball

June 28th, 2011
9:44 am

No, I didn’t.

reckingball

June 28th, 2011
9:53 am

That Linebrink kid has been having some pretty good outings.
He looks like he’ll be a good reliever, if he keeps it up, and gets some more experience, in the big leagues.

reckingball

June 28th, 2011
9:53 am

fred

June 28th, 2011
10:02 am

reckingball you are talking to a mirror?

reckingball

June 28th, 2011
10:04 am

I didn’t see you in it.

Bama/Dog

June 28th, 2011
10:06 am

I can’t understand why anyone expects the Braves to win many ballgames with .200 plus or minus hitters dominating the lineup. Give Gonzalez the Yankees/Red Sox/ lineup with the Braves pitching staff and the Phillies would be in second place. Gonzalez is a better manager than Cox. It appears to me that there were two things Cox was most interested in being remembered for and that was. His players loved him and setting a record for how many times he was thrown out of a game. Yeah, Fredi has made some untimely decisions and even poor decisions on the field. When you only score 1 or 2 runs a game trying anything(bad or not) to score runs is expected. His pitching decisions have been good but he can’t hit for an inept lineup. Jones goes to the plate looking for a pitch he can drive…he should be looking for one he can hit. Striking out looking because you didn’t get your pitch…STUPID!! When major league pitchers throw you the pitch you want, it’s a mistake and they don’t make many. Prado should be the hitting coach. He can hit anything he can reach. Uggla is in the same category as Mark Wohlers was when he lost it. It happens! Benching Uggla for one game is not going to do it. $62 million worth of strikeouts is not going to help the lineup.
The Braves pitchers know if they only give up one run they could lose, give up 2 runs and it’s a probability, give up 3 runs and it’s almost a sure thing. Anyone who knows the game knows that weighs heavy on their shoulders. It’s getting to the point where they figure if they pitch a shutout they’re only going to get a tie.

E-6

June 28th, 2011
10:10 am

Somebody besides Freeman and BMac will get hot soon. Maybe Heyward, maybe Chipper. Probably not Uggla (under .200 for a month and a half) or Gonzales (at last count 24 strikeouts on three pitches). We have a month to see if we really need to make a move for a right handed bat.

TheAntiMe

June 28th, 2011
10:50 am

At the end of this season Freddie Freeman will be known by his initials: ROY

phil

June 28th, 2011
10:55 am

I’m not sure that a single move can help this offense. It is simply too inept overall for whatever reason. Obviously Uggly seems to be at the heart of the problem, but the wild, undisciplined swings of Gonzo, Wayward and often FF aren’t helping a lot either. Wayward hasn’t hit a homerun in 2 months.

We keep on managing to win at a decent clip though, which I just find amazing. You would think, statistically speaking, that our bats would wake up at some point. If that happens, and the pitching holds up, we’ll win games in huge bunches. I’m talking to the tune of 8 out of every 10 or so. We’d be very tough to beat.

That said, the season is halfway over and it hasn’t happened yet and shows no real sign of happening. We shall see…

phil

June 28th, 2011
10:56 am

ROY would be a fine nickname for FF! Here’s hoping!

jim

June 28th, 2011
10:56 am

Perhaps Fredi shoujld get some slack for not knowing the number of rookies on the team. Last night I think there were 5. the three ROY candidates + Ramirez and Ascenio. Tonight there will be probably be 4 with Ascenio going to AAA. At other times during the season Gearrin, Young, Hicks, Minor, Teheran, and Delgado were all briefly on the roster either separately or in some combination. It is not necessarily surprising that Fredi might not know the exact number of rookies on his roster at any one time.

TheAntiMe

June 28th, 2011
10:58 am

Fredi just hangs out…….. the earlier call against Freeman at first was wretched….one of the worst blown calls at 1st in a long time. Yet, the Braves passively endure………. Good thing Beachy was superb!!!

What game were you watching JC Boscan III, because Fredi went out and took over the argument from TP after the blown call by the 1B umpire? Now if you are saying that Fredi should have gotten himself thrown out like Bobby used to, well that’s another issue but the Braves management was far from passive and Fredi did not just hang out on Freeman’s bad call.

Bill

June 28th, 2011
11:05 am

Uggla seems to be heart of the problem, but…One Monkey don’t stop the show. That’s a big…but!
The right single move can HELP! Do you trust Wren to make the right move? Not another 230 hitter are re-run. We shall see…

jim

June 28th, 2011
11:10 am

I think we are seeing that the shoulder injury really was at the root of Heyward’s problems. He is starting to hit the ball with authority and beginning to use all of the field again. I think we will se him return to his 2010 form soon. In the second half of the season, I expect Prado, Heyward, Mac, and Freeman to comprise a solid middle of the order. It would be nice to include Chipper in that group, but he seems to be feeling for the ball and guessing a lot to compensate for a slowed bat. His offense has been declining since a hot start in April. He needs to be moved further down in the order. If Uggla can contribute in the 2nd half, that would be a huge plus.

Don

June 28th, 2011
11:22 am

So where are our right-handed batters? The lefties got all five hits. Maybe FM can come up with an all-left-handed lineup.

PRADO, WHERE ARE YOU???

By the way, while McOut made a good grab it would have been a non-sensational catch for our regular CF.

jim

June 28th, 2011
11:33 am

The Braves wll soon play game # 82 in a 162 game season. If we restart the stats on that day, I would predict this order for BA, OBP, and HR for the second half:

BA
Mac, Prado, Freeman, Heyward, (gap) Schafer, Uggla, Chipper, McLouth, Gonzo
OBP
Mac, Heyward, Freeman, Chipper, Prado, Schafer, Uggla, McLouth, Gonzo
HR
Uggla, Heyward, Mac, Freeman, Prado, Gonzo, Chipper, McLouth, Schafer

This assumes no significant changes to current roster and Chipper, Prado, Schafer, and McLouth will rotate between 3B, LF, and CF — Prado either LF or 3B and McLouth and Schafer splitting time in CF and LF when Chipper sits. I assume fatigue will decrease Mac’s power numbers slightly in Aug and Sept. and Uggla will start to produce more consistent ABs.

hal

June 28th, 2011
11:39 am

if wilkins has a huge hole in his swing what does haystack have ohhh ive got it his swing is one huge hole

phil

June 28th, 2011
11:46 am

That’s not fair, hal…Wayward is a future hall of famer based on all those commercials and articles and blog posts I’ve read and seen about him. The fact that he isn’t much of a player in reality is irrelevant.

Bill

June 28th, 2011
11:59 am

right on..phil. lol

TheAntiMe

June 28th, 2011
12:18 pm

It’s pretty wild how some folks think that Jason Heyward at 22 years-old should have more home runs than Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, and Willie Mays combined. Most players his age aren’t even in AAA yet but even so he gets on base as much as anyone else other than B-Mac.

And it’s not like he’s making Chipper Jones money, so why all of the hate? The dude was runner-up for the ROY last season just like Chipper was in his first season so he must be doing SOMETHING right in his brief career so far.

Mikey

June 28th, 2011
12:21 pm

Beachy is one nasty dude that I would have no problem starting the 7th game of a World Series. What a talented group of rookies/second year players that should be around along time, winning!

Lobosolo

June 28th, 2011
12:44 pm

phil

June 28th, 2011
1:03 pm

TheAntiMe

June 28th, 2011
12:18 pm
“It’s pretty wild how some folks think that Jason Heyward at 22 years-old should have more home runs than Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, and Willie Mays combined. Most players his age aren’t even in AAA yet but even so he gets on base as much as anyone else other than B-Mac.

And it’s not like he’s making Chipper Jones money, so why all of the hate? The dude was runner-up for the ROY last season just like Chipper was in his first season so he must be doing SOMETHING right in his brief career so far.”

What hate? What are you talking about? Who hates Jason? Has one poster on here expressed hate for him? No.

Instead, at least speaking for myself, he isn’t doing very much to help the team. He certainly isn’t what so many of you apparently think he is based on what he has ACTUALLY done on the field. I want him to succeed wildly too, but the fact is, HE ISN’T….

I don’t want to hear about his age, and this excuse and that excuse when he is apparently PERFECTLY WILLING to make commericals, sit for TV specials, be interviewed for SI and so on and so forth while doing little to back any of it up. That rankles me, personally.

Ok, you’re young, you’re hurt, you’re whatever….then get your face off the TV set and focus on getting better as a player…

That’s all I’m saying…no one here hates the guy that I can tell.

Steve

June 28th, 2011
1:04 pm

Why is Uggla still in the line up?and why would you take out Jordan when he is getting hits and stealing bases.WTF kind of managing is that?

phil

June 28th, 2011
1:08 pm

“Uggly is still in the lineup because he’s the worst hitting position player in baseball, that’s why. And that’s reason enough.”

Fredi Gonzalez

TheAntiMe

June 28th, 2011
1:26 pm

Come on, phil, please curtail the dramatics. We’re talking baseball here, not hate crimes. In baseball terms your statement that, “The fact that he isn’t much of a player in reality is irrelevant.” is definitely hating on a player, and in this case, IMHO, very un-astutely, to put it mildly.

And I can see why the GMs of MLB do not have you on speed dial because there are 29 GMs out there at this very minute who would gladly take Jason Heyward off of the Brave’s hands. If you don’t realize this then you are really not as well informed as I had thought that you were.

Rick

June 28th, 2011
1:31 pm

“Why is Uggla still in the line up?and why would you take out Jordan when he is getting hits and stealing bases.WTF kind of managing is that?”

They aren’t going to bench (long-term) or send to AAA a player that is only 1/12 way through a $60 million contract. I think that was Jordan’s first day off since his call up and he has hit poorly against left handed pitching. Why not give him some rest?

TheAntiMe

June 28th, 2011
1:40 pm

Ok, you’re young, you’re hurt, you’re whatever….then get your face off the TV set and focus on getting better as a player…

By the way, phil, it is a standard clause in ALL MLB players contracts that they are expected to make promotional appearances on behalf of their team, as well as on behalf of MLB when asked. Do some some research, please.

bravelouisa

June 28th, 2011
1:44 pm

Rick….they aren’;t going to bench or send to AAA a player that is only 1/12 through a $60 milliom contract?
why the hedoublehockeysticks not?
He is a detriment to this team. soon as Prado is back, bench Uggla for at least 3 to 4 weeks.
I mean, how LONG does a team have to keep playing a guy who is hitting in the .170’s?
Is there something in his contract that says he has to play not matter what>
dang it, put Conrad at 2nd. Yea, his glove work ain’t all that great but he is hitting alot higher than Uggla.
Philly must not be so great when we are about 4.5 games out and we got Uggla who can’t hit,.
tis a mystery to me WHY he is still on the field and not gathering some pine.

phil

June 28th, 2011
1:56 pm

TheAntiMe

June 28th, 2011
1:26 pm
“Come on, phil, please curtail the dramatics. We’re talking baseball here, not hate crimes. In baseball terms your statement that, “The fact that he isn’t much of a player in reality is irrelevant.” is definitely hating on a player, and in this case, IMHO, very un-astutely, to put it mildly.

And I can see why the GMs of MLB do not have you on speed dial because there are 29 GMs out there at this very minute who would gladly take Jason Heyward off of the Brave’s hands. If you don’t realize this then you are really not as well informed as I had thought that you were.”

I wasn’t being dramatic…at least I didn’t think so. I was merely saying that, in reality, and the numbers would seem to bear it out, Heyward isn’t much of a player. I mean at present, to be clear. I didn’t say he might not become one next year, tomorrow or immediately after the all star break. I still think he might. I hope he might. But since I’m not a GM, I don’t think it really matters a whole lot what I think, and I never, ever thought it did. I’m just going on about what I’ve been seeing, which concerns me. The guy isn’t performing up to snuff. Don’t you agree? I don’t want to trade him, release him, demote him or any of that. I do want to see him produce more than a bunch of outs and play some better D in the outfield is all….

phil

June 28th, 2011
1:59 pm

TheAntiMe

June 28th, 2011
1:40 pm
Ok, you’re young, you’re hurt, you’re whatever….then get your face off the TV set and focus on getting better as a player…

“By the way, phil, it is a standard clause in ALL MLB players contracts that they are expected to make promotional appearances on behalf of their team, as well as on behalf of MLB when asked. Do some some research, please.”

Ok, Shaun, I’ll do my research…lol.

I know all that. My frustration is issuing forth like steam from that geyser out in the northern rockies….i hate seeing him all over the tube when the current results don’t back it up. I should “hate” on the team and MLB I suppose….they aren’t doing the guy any favors…

phil

June 28th, 2011
2:01 pm

Sitting Jordan was fine last night. Not sitting Uggly, day after day after day, isn’t so fine. As I’ve said 89 times now, the guy is killing us…

alex

June 28th, 2011
2:11 pm

I don’t understand all this HATE language;must be generational,I grew up with hate being a deep,visceral sensation.By the previous communications that hate has evolved into a gentle dislike or disaggreeable type of conotation. So let me say I am disturbed with uggla’s hitting and I find his 175 average disappointing and disagreeable….

FIRE FW

Rick

June 28th, 2011
2:15 pm

“Rick….they aren’;t going to bench or send to AAA a player that is only 1/12 through a $60 milliom contract?
why the hedoublehockeysticks not?
He is a detriment to this team. soon as Prado is back, bench Uggla for at least 3 to 4 weeks.
I mean, how LONG does a team have to keep playing a guy who is hitting in the .170’s?
Is there something in his contract that says he has to play not matter what>
dang it, put Conrad at 2nd. Yea, his glove work ain’t all that great but he is hitting alot higher than Uggla.
Philly must not be so great when we are about 4.5 games out and we got Uggla who can’t hit,.
tis a mystery to me WHY he is still on the field and not gathering some pine.”

Well with the length and size of his contract, he’s obviously going to be with the Braves for more than several seasons. So you have two options: AAA or bench him. With his contract, he has to agree to any assignments to the minors so AAA is not an option unless he agrees. They could bench him long term, but he’s not going improve his hitting by sitting in the dugout and wasting a space on the roster. I agree he has been a detriment to this team, but neither of these two options are really viable.

chuck simon's barber shop

June 28th, 2011
2:16 pm

Look, Heyward is in the top of the lineup based on the hope he can revert to the player he was for a lot of last season. And for lack of better options at this point. His career is all potential, if they don’t further screw with his natural abilities and over coach him.
Sending a few guys packing, admitting some failure re their signing, and opening up those 40 man spots might be a good thing for Wren to do considering surely Constanza, Gomez, and Gartrell are worthy candidates deserving a chance to help us win.

reckingball

June 28th, 2011
2:27 pm

Making one hatefull comment after another, about a person or player such as Heyward of Uggla, can be construed as hate for that person.

The benching of Uggla hoopla, is a waste of your brain power, because it aint gonin to happen.

But keep on cryin, babies.

phil

June 28th, 2011
2:45 pm

reckingball – In spite of my best efforts, you just don’t seem to get where I’m coming from, nor where some others are coming from….you appear to be going out of your way to prove that you’re just an idiot, or dumb, or lacking in fundamental understanding of the english language….or maybe you just enjoy egging us on…I don’t get it.

But I have, as of now, had enough of your crap, much as you can’t seem to stomach some honest discourse on the obvious failures of certain of our players….it is as hopeless as trying to reason with that Shaun guy to try and show you a difference in “hate” versus being upset with or ticked off about someone or something adversely affecting (which means hurting) our team.

Alex – You’re a crying hater…

Let's Go

June 28th, 2011
2:52 pm

“Why is Uggla still in the line up?”

Because he’s 2nd on the club in home runs. He may be hitting 170 but he’s still capable of hitting one over the fence and lately that’s how this team is scoring runs.

J-Man

June 28th, 2011
2:55 pm

last night performance from our hitters not named McCann and Freeman was awful. Too many selfish ABs. Fire Parrish!

phil

June 28th, 2011
2:56 pm

Fire FG…

Fire Bobby Cox…

Fire Dave Bristol…

TheAntiMe

June 28th, 2011
2:59 pm

lmao – OK, since DOB, is a cool blogmeister with a very open mind to music, I will TRY to help get us in a more love-oriented state of mind. Here goes:

Tom T Hall, I Love Lyrics

Looking for Tom T Hall tabs and chords? Browse alphabet (above).

Artist: Hall Tom T
Song: I Love
Album: Ultimate Collection

Tom T Hall Sheet Music
Tom T Hall CDs

I love little baby ducks, old pick-up trucks, slow-moving trains, and rain
I love little country streams, sleep without dreams, sunday school in may,
And hay

chuck simon's barber shop

June 28th, 2011
3:06 pm

How bout “I want you to know I care” or “I Care” . It’s the Tom T song that talks about “when they’re cutting your hair”. BTW, is T still performing?

Quicherbichin

June 28th, 2011
3:19 pm

Larry- you are just not happy unless you are griping about something, I see… you are just unbelievable. I am surprised you’re not still bitching about how the Braves played in 1990… Your posts are as relevant as the WFL is in football. Please do the fans a favor, go back to playing little league players against each other with your APBA baseball game and stop posting here. whenever I see your posts, I know that I will have toilet paper for the day because I give your postings the attention they deserve and use them where they do the most good. ( FLUSH)

reckingball

June 28th, 2011
3:20 pm

phill @2:45,,,,,,,,,,All I said was, that making hatefull comments about a person, can be construed as having feelings of hate for that person.
I did not even mention your name.
But, being that you called my name, and made hatefull comments about me, I will respond to your comment.
You say that you don’t hate them, but you make the hatefull comments because you are frustrated, and that it makes you feel better, to vent your anger it a hate filled manner.
But, you say everyone should know that you don’t hate them, as you are just a good guy who can not tolerate anything but 100% excellence, and that you enjoy making hatefull statements about baseball players on your favorite team, that do not meet your standards.
Just to get your point across, to others.
See, I get where you are coming from.
You’ve had enough of my crap??
Man, I’m just trying to have some “honest discourse” on hatefull comments made by commenters, on this blog.
haha.

reckingball

June 28th, 2011
3:24 pm

Relax phill, have a drink.

bravelouisa

June 28th, 2011
3:32 pm

thanks, Rick, for your answer re: Uggla. Makes sense but sure wish he would wake up and start hitting. I still think a few days or more on the pine might wake him up, but then who knows. But am so glad we win enough to stay on the heels of the Phillies!!!
also, thanks DOB for the comments

phil

June 28th, 2011
3:40 pm

100% excellence, eh? That’s my standard? Ok…

I shouldn’t hope for more from Uggla, Heyward, Gonzo, McLouth, Schafer, FF or Chipper….ever.

I understand.

Mikega1965

June 28th, 2011
3:46 pm

Do the braves have problems promoting players based on performance?
They promote Jordan Schafer batting .256 at AAA with a .309 OBP 6 SB. If going on numbers the obvious choice should have been Jose Constanza batting .339 with a .386 OBP 18 SB.
Wilken Ramirez batting .256 7HR 21 RBI and a .283 OPS Versus
Stefen Gartrell Batting .275 16HR 54 RBI and a .321 OBP
These guys played in the same league on the same team equal opportunities so how can bringing up lesser guys help our team. Guys that play harder should be the ones getting promoted. Ramirez and Shaffer aren’t playing on a Major league level. I really don’t see and up side to either and we struggle to get more than 2 to 5 hits per game. Don’t think we need to trade to get better just use the talent we have in our farm system. We need a real lead off guy and a fourth outfielder so can make a difference in a game.
Pitching wise I think we should get Derek Lowe on the trading blocks sooner than later obviously he would be better suited for the American league. If we only get a serviceable bull pen guy for him to help Venter’s and Kimbel get some rest that would be a plus in the second half.
Minor is showing more and more he belongs and Teheran seems ready to make the jump to Atlanta neither could be as bad as Lowe at this time.
Notes: Gartell has played Rf/LF and 1St base and he bats Right handed
Constanza bats well against Rt and Lf handers .
People will say these guys have no Major leagues experience but Wilken and Shaffer have but neither these guys has succeeded at this level. How can you say that guys with better stats in the same level want do better on a higher level?
I am tired of seeing our pitching staff have to carry all the load for the rest of the team. I would really like to see these guys get a boost our offensive numbers are embarrassing at this point. Couldn’t be any worst if we tried something different.

TheAntiMe

June 28th, 2011
3:48 pm

100% excellence, eh? That’s my standard? Ok…

I shouldn’t hope for more from Uggla, Heyward, Gonzo, McLouth, Schafer, FF or Chipper….ever.

I understand.

Or yourself, for that matter. God help you, phil, if you had to be judged by the standards that you seem to judge everyone else by.

phil

June 28th, 2011
3:54 pm

Not sure where that’s coming from, AntiMe, but ok…I do expect more from myself and often am disappointed in the outcome…how’s that? Honest enough?

Ryan

June 28th, 2011
3:54 pm

Baseball is failing because baseball fans rarely understand baseball anymore. All these people complaining about Freddi is ridiculous. We are doing great considering all of the injuries we have endured. WAHHHHHH we are in 2nd place!!! WAHHH I WANNA BE IN FIRST!!!! Shut the hell up with your whining. Baseball season is 162 games long. We are fine. Get over yourself and get back to watching College football where one game can ACTUALLY make or break you. Imbeciles.

TheAntiMe

June 28th, 2011
4:01 pm

I’m not all that either, by far , but … you know?

Jbailz

June 28th, 2011
4:05 pm

Everyone who is asking why Uggla still hasn’t been benched and he’s batting .170, I’ve got a few REALLY GOOD reasons why he’s not benched – 2nd in HR’s, 2nd in Runs, 2nd in Triples, 5th in RBI’s. While I agree the average is dismal at best he’s still one of the most productive guys on the team. He’s driving in and scoring runs, once he snaps out of it AND HE WILL, the Braves will be a force to be reckoned with!

alex

June 28th, 2011
4:14 pm

Goodness…I’ll stop crying if you guys quit blathering,OK let’s be PC,kumbya ….Gotta get on I-285 and have some road rage,only I will NOT call it hate

phil

June 28th, 2011
4:16 pm

Thank you, Ryan, for your meaningful contribution today…

Jbailz – You can continue with your delusions if you wish. Actually, you may be so delusional that you don’t realize you’re delusional. Professional help is but a phone call away….

phil

June 28th, 2011
4:17 pm

alex – hater…

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