Braves ‘pen is best, now can it hold up?
SAN DIEGO – After losing Billy Wagner to retirement and Takashi Saito to free agency, Braves officials still believed their bullpen would be as good or better this season than in 2010. So far, they’ve been right.
The question becomes, can it hold up?
The bullpen has been a huge reason the Braves have the NL’s second-best record (43-33) despite a spotty offense. Atlanta relievers have a majors-leading 2.49 ERA, which is more than a quarter-run better than the next-lowest in the majors, San Diego’s 2.77.
The Braves knew they would rely heavily on Venters (left), but 34-year-old Linebrink (right) has been a bigger part of the bullpen than anyone envisioned.
But look inside the numbers and you’ll notice a difference between the bullpens of those two teams, who start a three-game series tonight here in San Diego (where I don’t want to rub it in but it was 65 degrees at mid-day and I wore a long-sleeve T-shirt when I walked to breakfast this morning).
The bullpen difference I’m talking about: San Diego has divvied up its heavy workload pretty evenly between five who’ve made between 29 and 33 appearances and one, Chad Qualls, with a team-high 36.
The Braves have four relievers who’ve made at least 34 appearances, while George Sherrill is the only other with more than 18. Sherrill has 28 appearances, but only 19-1/3 innings.
The Braves’ workhorse core includes Jonny Venters, who’s been both the best and most-used reliever in the majors this season, with a whopping 47-1/3 innings in 42 appearances. No other major league reliever has been in as many as 40 games or pitched as many as 44 innings.
Braves closer Craig Kimbrel has 39 appearances, tied with Milwaukee’s Kameron Loe for second-most in the majors. Kimbrel’s 38 relief innings are the ninth-most in the majors.
Eric O’Flaherty has pitched only once in nine days because of a bad back, but his 36 appearances still are tied for ninth-most in the NL and would lead the AL. He pitched in six of the first 10 games in June before the latest episode of his recurring back problems.
In the absence of O’Flaherty and Peter Moylan, who’s recovering from back surgery, the Braves have used 34-year-old Scott Linebrink more than anyone thought they would coming into the season.
Linebrink, who hasn’t pitched in more than 57 games in the past four seasons, already has 34 appearances and is on pace for 72. That’d be one shy of the career-high mark he run up in three consecutive seasons with the Padres in 2004-2006.
Venters is on pace for 90 appearances and 101 innings, after totaling 79 appearances and 83 innings as a rookie in 2010.
Kimbrel is on pace for 83 appearances and 81 innings – and a stunning 124 strikeouts. Wagner had a 1.47 ERA and 104 strikeouts in 69-1/3 innings (71 games) last season.
Kimbrel, who turned 23 last month, set his pro-career highs of 69 appearances and 76-1/3 innings last season between Triple-A and the majors.
Kimbrel has had a few hiccups, but the rookie closer's overall body of work has been exceptional.
The Braves have played 20 games in June, and Venters (12) and Kimbrel (11) have pitched in more than half. Linebrink has pitched 10 innings in 10 games this month (and not given up any runs in nine).
Between Tim Hudson’s eight-inning start Monday, Mike Minor’s seven innings Tuesday and the off day in the schedule Thursday, the Braves have been able to give the ‘pen some needed rest this week, at the end of a stretch of 16 games in 16 days.
Now they’ll start a six-game West Coast trip and a stretch of 16 games in 17 days leading up to the All-Star break. The Braves just need to get to that four-day break July 11-14 without any bullpen setbacks.
Even with Venters expected to make the All-Star team, and possibly Kimbrel, too, their arms would still get plenty of rest compared to their regular routine. The Braves don’t even want to think about trying to go through a playoff stretch drive without any of their key relievers.
They could also get a big bullpen boost from Moylan and possibly Kris Medlen in August, when both are expected to come off the DL. Medlen could be used as a starter or reliever, and right now it looks like the Braves’ biggest need could be in the ‘pen at that point, barring more injuries to the starting rotation.
It’s been a helluva run by the ‘pen, and the Braves are probably going to need it to continue.
BRAVES LINEUP
- Schafer CF
- Heyward RF
- Chipper 3B
- McCann C
- Freeman 1B
- Uggla 2B
- Gonzalez SS
- McLouth LF
- Lowe RH
♣ The Battle of Little Support: Something’s got to give when Derek Lowe faces Padres righty Tim Stauffer tonight.
Well, that’s not exactly true. It could be about a 2-1 game when they leave and pretty much continue the trend for both pitchers.
Stauffer has received the worst run support of any major league starter this season, just 2.1 runs per nine innings pitched. The man has a 3.13 ERA and 10 quality starts in 15 games, but just a 2-5 record to show for it. That’s ridiculous.
Get this: The Padres have scored two runs or fewer while he’s been in 13 of his 15 starts.
Stauffer has a 0.41 ERA and .192 opponents’ average in his past three starts, with one run and 15 hits allowed in 22 innings. He’s 1-1 in those games, as the Padres scored two runs while he was in the win and no runs while he was in his past two starts.
Lowe’s had bad run support more often than not, too. But nothing quite as extreme as the dearth of support for Stauffer.
The Braves have scored 2.8 runs per nine innings pitched by Lowe, fourth-lowest run support among NL starters. They have scored two runs or fewer in seven of eight starts during Lowe’s current winless streak (0-2, 4.96 ERA).
McCann, who is on his way to a sixth consecutive All-Star appearance, has homered in four of his past five games.
However, he’s also contributed plenty to that winless streak, mixing a few bad starts – he gave up five earned runs three times in that period — with a couple of mediocre starts and a few good ones.
The positive to take from it is that the Braves are 5-3 in those eight games, or 5-1 in the games in which Lowe got no decision.
The former Dodger has pitched well against the Padres, with a 5-3 record and strong 2.76 ERA in 16 starts. He’s 2-0 with a 1.78 ERA in his past four against them, including three at Petco Park, where Lowe got no decision in a Braves loss on April 25 after allowing five hits, two runs and three walks in six innings of a 5-3, 13-inning loss.
Lowe will again try to avoid damage from a thorn in his side: Ryan Ludwick homered against him April 25 and is 9-for-16 with four homers off him all-time.
The only active Braves with more than four at-bats against Stauffer are Brian McCann (2-for-6 with homer) and Chipper Jones (0-for-8 with three walks).
♣ Streaking Braves and surging Mac: The Braves have a 1.00 ERA during their current four-game winning streak, which included a three-game sweep of the Blue Jays in Atlanta.
They are 11-5 with a 2.88 ERA in their last 16 games, and the Braves’ have hit 21 homers in that stretch. Despite owning a league-worst .225 average in June, the Braves are tied with the Brewers for most homers (26) in the NL this month.
A lot of that long-ball barrage has come from McCann, who has wielded a consistent power stroke since making an adjustment to his swing at the suggestion of his brother, a hitting instructor and former Marlins minor leaguer.
In his past 14 games, McCann has hit .333 with six homers, 13 RBIs and a .792 slugging percentage.
In his past 14 home games, he’s produced these gaudy numbers: .468 (22-for-47) with five doubles, eight homers, 14 RBIs, .545 OBP and 1.085 slugging.
McCann has homered in four of his past five games, going 7-for-16 with four homers, six RBIs, four walks and only one strikeout in that span.
These are not numbers that the Padres probably want to hear, because McCann generally does much damage against them even if he hasn’t been hitting well prior to the series. Particularly at Petco Park.
It’s considered one of the most pitcher-friendly ballparks in baseball, but McCann has a .383 career average with four homers and 21 RBIs in 18 games at Petco.
In his past 30 games against the Padres, home and away, McCann has hit .357 (40-for-112) with 11 doubles, six homers, 31 RBIs and a 1.054 OPS.
Whew.
By the way, Braves catchers are a combined 10-for-24 with two homers and eight RBIs in six games against the Padres this season, including David Ross’s two-homer game April 26 against Aaron Harang at San Diego.
The rest of this series features Jair Jurrjens vs. Dustin Moseley on Saturday (odd 5:35 p.m. start out here; 8:35 p.m. in Atlanta) and Tim Hudson against lefty Cory Luebke on Sunday at 1:05 (4:05 in Atlanta).
♣ Etc.
Jordan Schafer has seven stolen bases in nine attempts in June, and the Braves have 12 steals for the month. Five NL teams have nine or fewer in June. The Braves had only 11 total stolen bases prior to June…. The Braves and Padres have split six games this season, with the visiting team winning two of three in each series…. San Diego is just 14-26 at home with a .208 batting average, including 6-11 with 42 runs scored in its past 17 home games. The Padres scored one or no runs in eight of those 17, and more than three runs in only four of the 17…. The Braves are 21-16 on the road, including 17-9 in their past 26. That stretch began with a three-game sweep at San Francisco April 22-24, followed by winning two of three at San Diego on the same trip.
OK, let’s close with an ode to Mickey Mantle by Tom Russell, one of the greatest living American songwriters. You can hear it by clicking here. If you’ve never heard it, you’ll wonder why. It’s terrific.
“THE KID FROM SPAVINAW” by Tom Russell
I was born in Oklahoma, 1931
Outside the town of Spavinaw
Where the red dust clouds the sun
And I ran beneath your diamond skies
And I drank your waves of grain
My name is Mickey Mantle, boys
And baseball is my game
My father’s name was “Mutt”, boy
And he worked down in the mines
He pitched to me in the evening
At least a thousand times
A thousand times again, in my nightmare and my dreams
You’re going to live in the house that Ruth built, kid
You’re going to make that Yankee team
Sure enough, the Yankee scout comes drivin’, right down route 66
He’d have never come to Spavinaw class D ball in the sticks,
but I happened to be playing in an old wood ball park way out on the mother road
That Yankee scout he signed me and I went up to the the show
Strike 1, that was the drinkin’
Strike 2, there go the knees
Then my old man died in Denver
Some type of lung disease
When God starts throwing change ups
You can’t swing with fame or wealth
If I’d known I’s going to live this long
I’d have taken care of myself.
I don’t miss the lights of Times Square
I don’t miss Toots Shore’s bar
I miss my old man pitchin’ baseball
Near the shed in our backyard
I wish that he were still alive
To see these trophies on my shelf
If I’d known I was going to live this long
I’d have taken better care of myself
I was born in Oklahoma, 1931
Outside the town of Spavinaw
Where the red dust clouds the sun
By David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog
1,275 comments Add your comment
vivabeta
June 24th, 2011
5:48 pm
Fire Parrish!
reckingball
June 24th, 2011
5:48 pm
block
Grincheee
June 24th, 2011
5:49 pm
I. too, have been very pleased with the ‘pen. Let’s just hope O’Ventbrel doesn’t wind up getting worn out when it counts.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
5:50 pm
Thanks for the new Blog, Chief!
In his past 30 games against the Padres, home and away, McCann has hit .357 (40-for-112) with 11 doubles, six homers, 31 RBIs and a 1.054 OPS.
Whew.
Bring. It. ON!!!!
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
5:51 pm
Can I be the 6th hitter to post?
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
5:52 pm
From the last blog…
Jeffrey D
Last Night’s response from D.O.B. as to what I said about New Kids on the Block was epic…! I was listening to them a lot yesterday because they kept playing it on The Chuck and Matt Show on 680AM The Fan
I seriously think I was the First person he Clowned on here for thier musical taste way back when the blog started in 2005… lol
JWOOD
June 24th, 2011
5:53 pm
The Braves are beginning to become the team that everyone thought they would be. Even if our pitching declines slightly, the addition of Heyward and Prado, eventually, will create a formidable team.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
5:55 pm
Thanks DOB…great read.
‘pen’s workload’s got me a little worried though
reckingball
June 24th, 2011
5:57 pm
It’’s spelled OVentBrel, I think.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
5:59 pm
great song DOB. Thank you for the link.
flange1
June 24th, 2011
6:01 pm
Thanks for the new blog DOB!
T for Texas
June 24th, 2011
6:03 pm
Nice blog, David. Hope your blood-sugar level has evened out after that banana peanut butter french toast this morning. Ha.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
6:05 pm
I’m having a Texas Tornado Match with a few posters on the Philly.com/old Phillies Forum because I mentioned D.O.B.’s post last night regarding that the braves have the 2nd best record in the NL now…I was basically Pretty Boy Flexin on there to their Hardcore naysayers who were claiming in S. Training that the Marlins would finish ahead of us and that the Giants were the only team that they needed to worry about…
I’m Gonna Head to the pool while their fans throw a couple more Jabs at me like (Stupid Redneck, Imbred hillbilly, etc). Its a Good Laugh, and Its Funny how in a year and a 1/2 we are their most hated fans again after all the Mets fans vanished from their forum
That Texas Tornado match might turn into old school WWF in your House once all their posters come on their for the game…
Murph
June 24th, 2011
6:06 pm
How much looooonger? Are we there yet? Holy crap, could it get much worse than a day off followed by a trip to the left coast?
Even thinking about sopapillas is starting to bore me. Stupid California. Let’s go already!
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
6:08 pm
You sound like a kid on a car trip
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:09 pm
Holy crap, could it get much worse than a day off followed by a trip to the left coast?…Murph
and not only that the game B4 the off day was a day game over early.
I’m jonesin’ for my Braves fix too
Murph
June 24th, 2011
6:09 pm
jeffrey, just stay on your own side and we won’t have any issues.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:11 pm
you tell him Murph
Bat Masterson
June 24th, 2011
6:11 pm
Nice blog DOB.
I’m envious as all get out of those temperatures. My AC has quit working and its getting a little too damn warm in here. Good thing the HVAC guy is on the way or I might have to go burn some gas trying to cool off.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:11 pm
jeffrey is obviously not a TRUE Braves fan….
Tomahawk Mafia
June 24th, 2011
6:13 pm
Good stuff as usual. A win for Lowe tonight would be nice to see. Without looking at any numbers, it seems like the Braves have a tendency in recent series at Petco Park to drop the first game of the series and then rally to win the final two. I also would almost guarantee at least two extra-inning games on this trip with all the good pitching and weak offenses coming up.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:14 pm
and some folks were thinkin’ that Jonny wouldn’t get enough rest….
Tomahawk Mafia
June 24th, 2011
6:16 pm
Tomahawkin’
I went on BlueBird Banter a few days ago and complimented some of the Blue Jays players such as Baustista and Escobar and some of them appreciated it, but others still took the time to bash me say they hoped Philly held on to win the division.
toby flenderson
June 24th, 2011
6:16 pm
well
it hurts that O’ hasnt been used due to his back, yet insist on not DL’ing him
why not use other bullpen arms?
“not confident in them holding the lead”? well then they shouldnt be on the team
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2011
6:19 pm
Stupid California.
You enjoy your heat and humidity. I will enjoy my cool temps and breezy ocean air
Bat Masterson
June 24th, 2011
6:19 pm
nolie-
I saw your comment about The Searchers the other night. Yeah great movie, I had heard that the movie was based on the Cynthia Ann Parker story. Are you familiar with her and Rachel Plummer? Amazing stories.
CB
June 24th, 2011
6:22 pm
Right now Lowe is our 5th best starter and working his way down,needs to get his stuff turned around.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
6:23 pm
Stupid California.
Haha…
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
6:27 pm
You enjoy your heat and humidity. I will enjoy my cool temps and breezy ocean air
And earthquakes
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
6:27 pm
Well FML!!!
I just Got My Feelings Hurt!
Just stepped outside to head to the Pool with my Big Boy Screwdriver “On Deck!” and Now its about to start Pouring here in Norcross/Tucker!
I’m gonna be in a Btchy mood when the Game Starts, Watch! Time to Rock some Pantera and Crowbar!
“I’m Broken!!!”
Pantera Rules!
Murph
June 24th, 2011
6:28 pm
You enjoy your heat and humidity. I will enjoy my cool temps and breezy ocean air
It’s nice here today, only 98. Going up to 105 next week, but really once it goes over 100 it all feels the same.
Nothing a sopapilla ice cream sandwich can’t help alleviate.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:30 pm
She was Quanah Parker’s mother wasn’t she. Kept trying to get back to the Comanches IIRC.
I have also read that The Searchers was based on her story a bit. No idea if that is true.
I think Ethan Edwards was Wayne’s most complicated character which is one of the reasons that it is my fave
Murph
June 24th, 2011
6:31 pm
Did I hear right that True Grit is on DVD now? Anyone seen it? Worth a purchase or just a rental?
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2011
6:31 pm
Murph-
Yeah, it’s warm here today too. Got all the way up to 81 downtown (had to go down there for a bit). It’s currently a steamy 75 at home…
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:31 pm
I’m gonna be in a Btchy mood when the Game Starts,….Tomahawkin
how is that any different than usual?
fastasballs
June 24th, 2011
6:32 pm
I hate the off days too! I’m ready for some Braves baseball. Also ready for Breaking Bad to start the new season here in a few weeks.
Scoop
June 24th, 2011
6:32 pm
The best beat blog in sports…….TY DOB.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:33 pm
great movie Murph. We have talked about it a lot here. Some like it better than the original. It is definitely closer to the book.
If you are a TRUE Western fan it is likely worth a purchase.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:35 pm
If you follow DOB’s selections, I’m pretty sure I remember him saying he liked it as much or better
Scoop
June 24th, 2011
6:36 pm
@ DOB
BTW when’s Wilson Rameriz going to get some at-bats? Our outfield is loaded with lefty’s and I thought he’d get his chance against Jo-Jo the other day but Fredi didn’t start him.
And Why is Lugo playing short over Diory Hernandez? I’ve been very impressed with Diory’s approach given his role and think the kid deserves some more at-bats.
Also, I don’t think Freddy Freeman gets enough credit for the job he’s done at first base this year. I don’t know the numbers off the top of my head but it seems like his rookie year has been better than Heyward’s and his glove has really fortified our infield defense.
Murph
June 24th, 2011
6:37 pm
Yeah, it’s warm here today too. Got all the way up to 81 downtown (had to go down there for a bit). It’s currently a steamy 75 at home…
That’s why I have two AC units… it’s hot outside, but you can always find someplace to cool off.
nolee, I am indeed a true western fan. Might have to stop off at Target on my way home and pick up a copy.
chilidog75
June 24th, 2011
6:38 pm
Is the Gartrell guy just not any type of prospect at all? I mean he’s hitting .280 with 15 HR and 52 RBIs in Triple-A. He’s right-handed. And he plays the outfield. Although not very well, I’m sure.
Seems like if the Braves could allow Joe Mather to go on a 2 for 43 streak they could call this kid up and see if he could provide some sort of pop – either as a platoon stop-gap until Prado gets back or at least as a pinch-hitter.
For a team that struggles so terribly against left-handed pitching, seems like it would make sense to call up a power-hitting right-handed bat.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
6:39 pm
I’m a fake western fan. I like westerns starring Kenny Chesney and the Olsen twins
Robin Hood
June 24th, 2011
6:39 pm
Great Video
Thanks!
Before me late wife met me she got a signed photo of Mickey and gave it away. For 40 years I reminded her about that. She said Mickey was a a clothes store in Atlanta and no one was there!!
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:39 pm
Murph, if you do, I hope you enjoy it. I liked the original better but I liked this one a good bit too.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:40 pm
I knew that Jeffrey
Bat Masterson
June 24th, 2011
6:40 pm
nolie-
Yeah she was Quanah Parker’s mother and she did try to get back to the Comanches but never did. I checked the Wiki page for The Searchers and it said more likely another family. I like Wiki, but man, some of the information there. Hell I don’t know what to say about it.
Cynthia Ann parker was captured at age 9 in 1836, Rachel Plummer was her cousin, age17 captured too, with her son age 2.
This is on the CA Parker page about the others captured with her: The other four were released after the typical ransom was paid, but Cynthia remained with the Indians for nearly twenty-five years.
The typical ransom paid!? FCS Rachel Plummer was in captivity for 21 months, gang raped, held as a slave,and finally sold to some Comencheros. She wrote a book about it when she got free, like I said an amazing story.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2011
6:41 pm
What a day in San Diego: http://twitpic.com/5gbk8p
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:43 pm
I am not familiar with Rachel. I’ll have to look up her story
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
6:44 pm
What a day in Atlanta: http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0PDoS0WEwVOMw8Al0mjzbkF/SIG=12tif4ti7/EXP=1308984214/**http%3a//therevolutioncollective.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/sun_cme.jpg
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
6:44 pm
Ah shoot. Well, it was a picture of the sun
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2011
6:46 pm
Braves just wrapped up early BP, and looked like entire team, or close, was here.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:46 pm
what a hot day in Florida
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://sleeptraineatplay.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/marisa-miller-bikini-sweaty-egotastic.jpg&imgrefurl=http://sleeptraineatplay.com/2011/05/22/sweat-once-per-day/&h=872&w=550&sz=72&tbnid=gYSkP9uZcWaORM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=65&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpicture%2Bof%2Ba%2Bpig%2Bsweating%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=picture+of+a+pig+sweating&usg=__lh1uvrzDgX-tnYOaNCzvhXXt0is=&sa=X&ei=dhMFTsiEGKrk0QG1oqjBDA&ved=0CFYQ9QEwEw&dur=5003
Murph
June 24th, 2011
6:48 pm
I’m a fake western fan. I like westerns starring Kenny Chesney and the Olsen twins
Full Hacienda… great show! I didn’t care much for the John Stamos character, but whatev.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
6:48 pm
What?? nolie’s link was about twice as long as mine and it goes through perfectly?
She’s too skinny and slippery
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2011
6:48 pm
Nice, noleee
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
6:49 pm
I was talking about this, Murph
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_West_Was_Fun
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:49 pm
too skinny? really??????
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
6:50 pm
And those dimensions are highly improbable
Lew
June 24th, 2011
6:50 pm
Murph – We haven’t hit 60 today. It’s been raining for two days and is actually cold enough to use heat in the studio today. One tree started changing leaves already. Global weirdness has definitely hit. Probably be around 95 later in the week.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
6:50 pm
Yeah. There’s hot and there’s beautiful. I don’t like hot…hot is fake.
Deedle Nick
June 24th, 2011
6:51 pm
What do current Braves pitchers’ records have to do against teams that don’t exist anymore?
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:51 pm
you can tell from a picture what is fake? I guess you must never have dated a genuinely hot babe.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:52 pm
and slippery
it was 97 down here today, what do you expect????
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
6:53 pm
There’s no way she can be simultaneously that robust and skinny
Kat
June 24th, 2011
6:53 pm
David O’Brien
June 24th, 2011
6:41 pm
What a day in San Diego: http://twitpic.com/5gbk
Maybe you meant it to be Batman but I’m guessing a few characters got lost in copy/paste of the url.
toby flenderson
June 24th, 2011
6:54 pm
@ scoop
diory is in AAA
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
6:54 pm
I just figured that meant DOB spent the day fighting crime in SD
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:54 pm
some players excel against the same teams for years even after the personnel changes
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2011
6:55 pm
you can tell from a picture what is fake?
Dude. I can tell from pictures, TV, or the clothes they are wearing what is fake… maybe it’s a girl thing
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
6:56 pm
Nasty Lightning Storm!
I have been outside watching it!
Storms Rule!
nolee
June 24th, 2011
6:57 pm
I’m startin’ to feel sorry for your obviously limited experience with different feminine body builds ol’ buddy.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
7:00 pm
I’m sorry cab. I know that to be an exaggeration from experience. people come in all kinda shapes .
I dated a girl much like that in college and I can attest from tactile exploration that it was all real.
No way to know about this one, but it is not a given that it is false
Scrub21
June 24th, 2011
7:01 pm
actually, i think she is kind of hot.
just not my type
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
7:01 pm
Why, because I’m not attracted to Busty McSweat?
nolee
June 24th, 2011
7:01 pm
hang on Stanley, I’m comin’….
Bat Masterson
June 24th, 2011
7:02 pm
nolie _
Yeah she is worth the effort, strong woman indeed. I really was really impressed with her saying this at the time: Plummer never directly addressed the subject of rape in her book except to say dryly that anyone who said that a good woman died before being violated had not been forced to run naked tied by a rope to a horse for a day or two in the sun, and further:
Her story, Cynthia Ann’s and Quanah Parker’s are something.
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2011
7:04 pm
noleee-
Sorry- wasn’t implying one way or the other on that photo…I didn’t study it in depth (she’s not my type
)
nolee
June 24th, 2011
7:04 pm
well if I were being strictly serious I would say “no, it’s because you assume that it caint be real.”
what you are attracted to is your thang and all that counts is that a particular person attracts you.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
7:07 pm
I mean if you like Whoopie it’s ok with me Jeffrey….
dogsbrekky
June 24th, 2011
7:08 pm
I like my women with pulse, anything else is a bonus !
bravofan
June 24th, 2011
7:09 pm
I too wondered about the Batman twitpic haha
nolee
June 24th, 2011
7:09 pm
When it comes to cooling, humans have it covered. We have the unique ability to cool ourselves on the go, whereas all other animals are required to stop dead in their tracks to dissipate their heat.
If you can get over the sometimes pungent smell of it (as in… “you’re sweating like a pig!”), sweating is something you should welcome to your day, every day. Sweat consists of water, minerals, lactate and urea. The last 2 of which you’d prefer out of your body than in.
So here’s your challenge for the day (and I know this is harder for you thank for me)…
Sweat until it’s dripping off from you
dogsbrekky
June 24th, 2011
7:09 pm
I met Mickey Mantle in 1994
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June 24th, 2011
7:09 pm
[...] but there are some causes for concern. Venters has pitched 47.1 innings and appeared in 42 games. No other reliever has more than 44 innings or 40 [...]
MariettaDerek
June 24th, 2011
7:09 pm
I have a feelin’ the Bravos are gonna get a little DOUBLE PITS TO CHESTY with it in San Diego tonight! Who’s with me?!
nolee
June 24th, 2011
7:10 pm
well thats better than a couple of morticians that I know Doggy.
choozer
June 24th, 2011
7:10 pm
Why don’t they hire McCann’s brother?
TexasBrave
June 24th, 2011
7:11 pm
I grew up in Oklahoma and Dad always spoke about how Micky was from Spavinaw near Tulsa. However, I have never heard of that song. I will have to play it for Dad. Thanks DOB
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
7:11 pm
cabravesfan Yeah, it’s warm here today too. Got all the way up to 81 downtown (had to go down there for a bit). It’s currently a steamy 75 at home…
75?? BRRRR!!!!
Scrub21
June 24th, 2011
7:17 pm
McFann; where do you live. I’m jealous. it was 94 degrees in Fla. today.
dogsbrekky
June 24th, 2011
7:20 pm
Pretty with a pulse and a …. is perfect
dogsbrekky
June 24th, 2011
7:21 pm
64 and thunderstorms here, floods, beach destruction, like a bad Perth winter’s day here in NY
JT Grace
June 24th, 2011
7:22 pm
Since Scott Proctor has been proven to be completely unreliable it would make a ton of sense to release him and call up one of the many young pitchers in AAA. Proctor should be called a “coster” instead of a “reliever” because he costs more runs than he prevents.
"Chef" Tim Dix
June 24th, 2011
7:24 pm
I don’t hunt’em like you, DOB, but thats a great song.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
7:25 pm
I wore #5 throughout my baseball career in honor of Brooks Robinson, Johnny Bench & Joltin’ Joe Dimaggio.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
7:29 pm
I like stuff that stinks.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
7:30 pm
Scrub—
I live in Georgia…that 75 was cabravesfan’s weather. Our’s was easily 20 degrees higher…
I. Hate. Heat. And I hate mugginess, which abounds…
DC Brave
June 24th, 2011
7:33 pm
How can you even write this article without mentioning the 2nd coming of Wags. He’s coming back next month…I know it!!!
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
7:36 pm
I hate the south….always have.
Love the Braves though. I dunno why.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2011
7:47 pm
Hanson’s going to throw side session in the ‘pen shortly. But he feels fine, no problems day after his flat-ground session. Barring anything unexpected, he starts Tuesday.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2011
7:48 pm
Mixxo, you’re not allowed to like the Braves and hate the South. Sorry, just the way it is.
Then again, you said you hate the south. We live in the South.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
7:49 pm
Time for Big Boy dollardogs! Brb
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2011
7:50 pm
TexasBrave, Tim Dix, others: Glad you liked that song. First time I heard it years ago, I thought, how can this song not be famous? All the documentaries they’ve made about the Yankees and Mantle, all the HBO specials about baseball, etc., and I’ve never heard it used on any of them. Love that song.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
7:53 pm
“I. Hate. Heat. And I hate mugginess, which abounds…”
Co-Sign!
Unless I’m at Lake Lanier or at a pool party, I hate it when it when it’s hot as balls outside especially at night! It messes with my sleep patterns, and that is like playing with my emotions!
And there is nothing worse than when it is humid at night like this and going to a club and getting your swerve on but yet sweating ur rear off…
Bring on Fall and SEC Football 10 more weeks!
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2011
7:55 pm
OK, that was funny, that ridiculous photo I posted by mistake. Have no idea what it was or how I grabbed it from Twitter feed.
Anyway, here’s the one I meant to post: http://twitpic.com/5gbk8p
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
7:56 pm
I hate it when it when it’s hot as balls outside especially at night! …And there is nothing worse than when it is humid at night like this and going to a club and getting your swerve on but yet sweating ur rear off…
Yeah, that’s what McFann meant.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
7:58 pm
DOB you’re not allowed to like the Braves and hate the South. Sorry, just the way it is.
How true…
OK, that was funny, that ridiculous photo I posted by mistake. Have no idea what it was or how I grabbed it from Twitter feed.
Well, at least it wasn’t obscene.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
7:58 pm
I liked the Batman pic better. It was more open to interpretation to what your day in San Diego was like.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
7:58 pm
jeffrey d—
For sure.
George
June 24th, 2011
8:00 pm
I have a idea. I know cab loves Braves west coast trips, but the late starts are not good for us east coast Braves fans. I would like to see complete realinement. No more AL and NL,have a eastern conference and a western conference like the NBA, east and west never play each other till the WS Then all our games will start at a desent time of day.
ONLY KIDDING CAB, I WOULD NOT DO THAT TO YOU
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
8:01 pm
Time to eat seriously…
And its time to Bump my old West Coast Gangsta Rap Playlist! I have been on an 80’s rock/pop Binge for about 6 weeks now…Time to switch it up…
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2011
8:02 pm
George-
Good to know
There is only so much room in the doghouse, even after noleee remolded it. And between him, Stanleee, you, and Murph (with the occasional visit from Tom O’Hawke) it would have been awfully crowded…
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
8:03 pm
Anyway…I freaking love that ballpark.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
8:04 pm
Nolee filled the doghouse with mold…?
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
8:04 pm
DOB -
I don’t really “hate” it. It’s just the heat man.
Check out this nice tune?
http://youtu.be/lrMuD76q4hw
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2011
8:05 pm
McFann-
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
8:06 pm
Jeffrey D
I’m amazed at how many people don’t know what the phrase “Hot as Balls” means? I picked up that Phrase when I lived in S. Florida for a year, Its rare to hear anyone say that up here…?
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
8:06 pm
cabravesfan—
Don’t be too sure…
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
8:07 pm
When did I say I didn’t know what that meant, Tomahawkin? I was just joking that you took a McFann comment about hating the heat and added “balls” and the club to it.
richbrave
June 24th, 2011
8:09 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
GWINNETT
G-Men and TODD REDMOND getting waxed tonight, 8-0 COLUMBUS after three. Ouch! ‘45′ has the only BRAVES hit through 3+
smallmouth6
June 24th, 2011
8:11 pm
DOB: Agree with you on Mixxo. Thanks for the reports from the field when we can’t see what is going on. I like those.
richbrave
June 24th, 2011
8:11 pm
MISSISSIPPI
RANDALL DELGADO getting the start tonight. Game just underway, top of the first.
T for Texas
June 24th, 2011
8:15 pm
Tonights Braves v Padres game is the freebie on MLB.TV.
George
June 24th, 2011
8:17 pm
Outta here, there is a good collage WS game on BSPN. Have a good one or to y’ll. LETS WIN ONE TONIGHT BRAVES.
George
June 24th, 2011
8:17 pm
two*
richbrave
June 24th, 2011
8:18 pm
LYNCHBURG
HILLCATS locked up in a 0-0 duel of opposing pitchers tonight.
BLAINE SIMS on the hill for the BRAVES
1b JOE TERDOSLAVICH has the only two ‘CATS hits to this point.
C CHRISTIAN BETHANCOURT 0-2.
Bob the Blogger
June 24th, 2011
8:18 pm
Getting back to the subject of the blog, I’m concerned about Kembrel and Venters being worked like rented mules. These guys haven’t been tested long enough to establish that they can carry this kind of workload. I won’t be a surprise if one of them blows a gasket.
richbrave
June 24th, 2011
8:22 pm
ROME
‘LOS PEREZ and the R=BRAVES rolling through three 6-0.
Hey CRAZ:
ROB HEFFLINGER 1-2 tonight.
Bat Masterson
June 24th, 2011
8:22 pm
Thanks for the heads up, T.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
8:25 pm
These guys haven’t been tested long enough to establish that they can carry this kind of workload
Bob – Venters pitched 83 innings last year and 156 in 2010
“Kembrel” piched 76 innings last year plus the playoffs and then 60 in 2010. Granted he’s on pace to go more, but at least we’ve seen he’s pitched a good number of innings before.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
8:26 pm
See ya LTBF
Kyle
June 24th, 2011
8:28 pm
Enter your comments here
richbrave
June 24th, 2011
8:28 pm
DANVILLE
2009 DSL grad WILLIE PEREZ getting all the run support tonight through three, 8-0.
Kyle
June 24th, 2011
8:28 pm
Great blog as always DOB
nolee
June 24th, 2011
8:34 pm
The Phillies may be on the verge of losing Roy Oswalt, but their other three aces are heading for historic territory. They have one starter (Cliff Lee) leading the league in shutouts, another (Cole Hamels) leading the league in WHIP and a third (Roy Halladay) leading the league in Wins Above Replacement. If we use baseball-reference.com’s calculations of WAR leaders through the years, there hasn’t been any other team in the live-ball era that had three starters lead the league in those three categories
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
8:37 pm
Good to see Joe West, Angel Hernandez and the rest of the UMPS FROM HELL are tormenting the Phillies this weekend….
OAKLAND 0 0 0
PHILADELPHIA 0 0 0 TOP 6
jungleland sax solo
June 24th, 2011
8:38 pm
So I was drinkin bourbon &playin w/ my computer and my pistols one day in my home-Loganville Ga…noted the Braves announcers kept babbling about what a great town San Diego is. So I booked a trip to Mission Beach. Now I am hooked.
Anyone looking for a great vacation…ya gotta go. Just dont waste your time ordering sweet tea.
Tom O'Hawke
June 24th, 2011
8:39 pm
Bob – Venters pitched 83 innings last year and 156 in 2010
“Kembrel” piched 76 innings last year plus the playoffs and then 60 in 2010. (jeffrey d)
How long have I been gone?
(Hi, LA Woman)
Dumbfound
June 24th, 2011
8:40 pm
Both teams have no-no in 6….
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2011
8:40 pm
Hi Tom
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
8:42 pm
Sorry, those 2010’s should be 2009’s
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
8:42 pm
You know what I meant
Dumbfound
June 24th, 2011
8:43 pm
No more !!
tiger297
June 24th, 2011
8:43 pm
gonna be an exciting night on the blog tonight?
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
8:43 pm
Matsui breaks up Worley’s no-hitter with a 6th-inning double…
JRob
June 24th, 2011
8:44 pm
Phils and A’s both taking no hitter to middle of 6th.
T for Texas
June 24th, 2011
8:44 pm
You bet, Bat. I was hoping you’d see that.
Tom O'Hawke
June 24th, 2011
8:45 pm
You know what I meant
Of course I did, jeff, but where’s the fun in that?
JRob
June 24th, 2011
8:45 pm
Scratch that, A’s have one hit. Phils have been blanked.
RHR
June 24th, 2011
8:45 pm
Great song, DOB. Thanks for sharing.
Mixxo. I hated living in the South when I was younger, thought I was too good for it, too smart to live amongst the backwoods folk. Took me along time to love and appreciate it like I do now.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
8:47 pm
I’ve lived in the south my whole life (save one year) and I’ve never thought of it as backwoodsy.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
8:48 pm
Hollywood!
Hollywood Swingin!
Bumpin that and old Puff Daddy’s/Mase’s cover of that song “Bad Boy”! That junk Bumpin!
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
8:49 pm
And Polanco breaks up Mosoco’s no-hitter with a 6th-inning single.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
8:49 pm
RHR
Is Up in Here!
Whats Up Part-Nah!
tiger297
June 24th, 2011
8:50 pm
the other 1/2 watched sweet home alabama last night and while I don’t care for alabama it did bring back memories of the years I lived in rural Louisiana.
Dumbfound
June 24th, 2011
8:53 pm
A Graphical Look at the Braves’ Pitching Staff
by Jacob Peterson on Jun 24, 2011 3:26 PM EDT
45 comments Email Print.It’s pretty obvious that the Braves’ pitching staff has been good this year. But just how do they stack up to the rest of the league? The following graphic uses Runs Above Replacement (RAR; this is the Baseball-Reference version) to compare the Braves pitchers to the league as a whole.
I’ve graphed each Braves pitcher in descending order of RAR, split up by Starters and Relievers. Behind these graphs, there is another set of graphs representing all MLB pitchers (the dark shaded regions). By comparing the Braves’ bars to the shaded area, you can see how each Braves starter/reliever compares to the average MLB pitchers for that slot. Where the Braves’ bars stick up above the dark area, they have been above average.
Overall, the Braves have earned 128 RAR (76 from starters and 52 from relievers). The MLB average is 81 RAR (56 from starters, 25 from relievers). That puts the Braves about 45 runs above average overall. Their starters have been 20 runs better than average (36%) while their relievers have been a whopping 27 runs above average (more than double the average team!).
Starters
Jair Jurrjens (28 RAR) compares fairly well with other teams’ aces. Tommy Hanson (20 RAR) is better than most teams’ 2nd-best starters. Most teams would love to have a top 2 as good as JJ and Hanson.
Brandon Beachy (11) has been a bit less valuable than most 3rd-best starters, but Derek Lowe (9) and Tim Hudson (8) are excellent when compared to most 4th- and 5th-best pitchers. This depth of quality pitching really pays off over a long season, though it’s not as helpful in the playoffs.
The Braves’ fill-in starters (Mike Minor, Julio Teheran, and Randall Delgado) haven’t been too impressive, but they have still been better than most backup starters.
Relievers
The Braves’ bullpen is even more impressive. They rate as well above-average at every single bullpen slot. Jonny Venters (20 RAR) has been the top reliever in baseball by far, and Eric O’Flaherty (12 RAR) is tied for 5th-best. Craig Kimbrel and George Sherrill have also been good, earning 6 and 5 RAR, respectively.
Every other pitcher in the Braves’ bullpen has been right at or a bit above replacement level. That might not sound great, but it is actually a huge asset, as I discuss below.
What Is Runs Above Replacement?
RAR is fairly simple; it starts the number of runs a pitcher has given up. These are actual runs, including unearned runs. This number is then compared to the number of runs that a “replacement level” pitcher would have given up in the same number of innings, adjusted for the ballpark, opponents, and defense. A replacement-level pitcher is, roughly speaking, a pretty good AAA pitcher.
The Value of Replacement-Level Pitching
Despite that definition, there are always many major-league pitchers who perform below replacement-level. This year, around 30% of relievers and 18% of starters have been below replacement-level. So a team like the Braves that has used 8 starters and 10 relievers would typically have 1 or 2 starters and 3 relievers below replacement. Instead, the Braves have had just one pitcher–Randall Delgado–perform below replacement, and he has only pitched in one game!
The Braves’ get a big advantage from this depth, compared to other teams. The average team has lost 19 runs to below-replacement pitching (12 from relievers, 7 from starters). The Braves have lost only 2 runs. That’s a difference of 17 runs, or nearly 2 wins! The lesson is that there is value in having a bunch of mediocre pitchers, since that allows a team to avoid using terrible ones.
Baseball-Reference RAR vs. FanGraphs RAR
I should note that, because Baseball Reference uses actual run totals to measure a pitcher’s performance, it gets quite different results than FanGraphs does. FanGraphs uses FIP (strikeouts, walks, homers, and innings pitched) to infer how many runs a pitcher “should” have given up based on those peripherals. This means that FG rates certain Braves pitchers much higher and others much lower. FG also uses different calculations for “replacement level.”
Here are the biggest discrepancies (bRAR is the Baseball-Reference version; fRAR is the FanGraphs version):
•Jurrjens: 28 bRAR, 17 fRAR (+11)
•Hudson: 8 bRAR, 15 fRAR (-7)
•Kimbrel: 6 bRAR, 13 fRAR (-7)
•Venters: 20 bRAR, 14 fRAR (+6)
•O’Flaherty: 12 bRAR, 7 fRAR (+5)
•Minor: 2 bRAR, 7 fRAR (-5)
Overall, while the individual players see large differences between sites, the totals are fairly close. The Braves have earned a total of 128 bRAR and 118 fRAR. Either way, they’ve been really good. I tend to slightly prefer the B-Ref version for applications like this, when you are looking at past performance only. But if I were projecting future performance, I might use the FanGraphs version instead. Both are valid metrics.
RHR
June 24th, 2011
8:54 pm
Hey Tomahawkin – hows life?
Alaska Braves Fan
June 24th, 2011
8:55 pm
Ahhhhh! Alaska! I left Georgia in 2000 to move up here because the state was hot and getting hotter. Best thing I ever did, except for marrying up. 66° today, sunny, and the snow-topped mountains across the bay are beautiful.
I do wish I were closer to the Braves. I have to find a way to get to Seattle, San Francisco, or San Diego to see them when the come west, and this year I’ll miss them altogether. This looks to me like a breakthrough year, so I really would love to see them in person.
Is it just me, or has AJC screwed up these blogs so you can’t navigate through them? I keep hitting pages that have little on them and will let me go nowhere. Aaugh!
ABF
JRob
June 24th, 2011
8:55 pm
Ok, this West Coast 10PM ballgame has really opened my eyes to just how empty my life is without the Braves… I’m watching a documentary on tree climbing on GPB. Wow… Come on first pitch!
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
8:56 pm
Okay guys, we get it….everyplace in the universe has nicer weather than Georgia
Bryn
June 24th, 2011
8:56 pm
Bat Masterson. I was interested in your comments at 6:40 concerning the Cynthia Parker story. I read a book about her written by a women that may have been Plummer. It was very graphic and did cover the rape. The Indians like to keep the younger childern they captured and usually treated them very well. The Indian’s birth rate was not very high. They moved around a lot and they did not have more babies than they could pick up and carry with them. This book discussed the Texas Ranger’s fights with the Indians. The Rangers went out with every pistol they could carry because in a running fight from horse back they were abe do a lot better than the Indians with their weapons. When Cynthia Parker heard about the death of her husband she slashed her breast which was a form of morning for the Indian women. The whites she was with were not able to stop her. I do not believe her was able to adjust to the white community and kept trying to get back to the Indians.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
9:00 pm
Oh and RHR – no, no bro-hawk
If I wasn’t working this summer, I probably would have.
BT
June 24th, 2011
9:04 pm
Been reading but haven’t posted this season. The Relief “overuse” is very concerning. Kimbrel and Venters need to argue calls and get suspended for a few days. The only way I see not to burn them out.
Have been a Mick fan since I was a kid. This song was the best sports song written in my opinion. Great Blog DOB
Braves Fan in PA
June 24th, 2011
9:11 pm
Gwinnett pecking away now 9-5
Realistic I think the Braves go after a right handed bat for the bench someone similar to what Mather was supposed to do (play some outfield and some first base). I don’t see them doing a big deal. Just hope they don’t over pay to do that.
John Mayberry
June 24th, 2011
9:13 pm
Looks like Oswalt just went on the disabled list with a bad back, and the Phils just cut loose J. C. Romero.
I like our pitching, almost as much as Cookie Rojas liked to turn double plays with Freddie Patek.
RHR
June 24th, 2011
9:14 pm
Where ya working this summer, jeffrey?
Bravesfan54
June 24th, 2011
9:17 pm
David, thank you for the great song!
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
9:17 pm
jeffrey d everyplace in the universe has nicer weather than Georgia
Oh, I don’t know about that…Mercury might be slightly warmer…
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
9:17 pm
The A’s & Phils are locked in a pitcher’s duel.
no score….top 8th.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
9:19 pm
Alaska is high on my list BTW Chief.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
9:24 pm
Dominic Brown owns Jason Heyward.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
9:33 pm
Except even in a slump Heyward is leading Brown in nearly every offensive category
Dennis Reynolds
June 24th, 2011
9:33 pm
DOB-
Do you agree that Schafer is just being shown as a trade chip right now or do you think the Braves actually think he’s a part of their future?
Personally I believe they’re positioning themselves to acquire a longterm CF like Bourn or possibly Kemp.
Law
June 24th, 2011
9:34 pm
CWS has turned out to be a nice warm up to this late first pitch
Gordon
June 24th, 2011
9:37 pm
Real Men can take the heat. Real Men don’t complain.
Gordon
June 24th, 2011
9:38 pm
Real Men don’t own a Makn
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2011
9:39 pm
What’s a Makn?
Gordon
June 24th, 2011
9:40 pm
Lmao it was suppose to be Man. I am all Mixxo’d up
Gordon
June 24th, 2011
9:41 pm
Mixxo’d says he can’t take the heat and some man owns Heyward
JRob
June 24th, 2011
9:42 pm
Prediction: Uggla’s bat comes alive at Petco Park. Bank.
Doc "Joe is gone" Holliday
June 24th, 2011
9:43 pm
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
9:17 pm
The A’s & Phils are locked in a pitcher’s duel.
no score….top 8th.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Pitching duel?
I would use other words to define that scoreless game.
katherine
June 24th, 2011
9:43 pm
hey everyone miss me?
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
9:47 pm
Victorino walk-off comin’ up????
katherine
June 24th, 2011
9:48 pm
come on oakland
tiger297
June 24th, 2011
9:48 pm
hit peckertino in the face…don’t even ear hole him in the face
katherine
June 24th, 2011
9:49 pm
blah
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
9:49 pm
I like Georgia weather. Variety is the spice of life, no? And you can get all four seasons in one week down here. It’s just great.
Bravefaninok
June 24th, 2011
9:49 pm
We got home last night(this morning@ 2am) from our Atlanta Vacation.
A few observations I wanted to share.
1. Atlanta was a very nice visit,People (all of them we interacted with) were very friendly,helpful and courteous…..Even in the not so nice parts of town.
2.As busy as any big city I have ever driven in…L.A., Detroit,Dallas etc
But the other drivers were never rude and not a single middle finger salute in our 10 days in town.
3.Lake Lanier was awesome,The striper guide we used(Tom Blackburn)was outstanding.
4.Billyjacks BBQ and shrimp co. super good food, good prices.
5.The Braves games we attended …the Mutts series ,could have been better,But the Turner field experience was good,Easy in and out and close parking,Anyone who thinks otherwise has never been to a game @ the ballpark in Arlington or Tiger stadium.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
9:51 pm
Joe West just robbed the A’s of a K. That was strike three to Shane.
katherine
June 24th, 2011
9:52 pm
that bastage
A-Ville Ranger
June 24th, 2011
9:53 pm
Our problem is a lack of work horse starters. We have the best ERA in baseball, but Philly has the top 2 starters in innings pitched. Over a long season, that will become critical.
braveslifer
June 24th, 2011
9:53 pm
Lets go Braves! Hopefully Lowe can get this road trip off to a good start!
katherine
June 24th, 2011
9:53 pm
dang it
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
9:55 pm
Trouble.
Bravefaninok
June 24th, 2011
9:55 pm
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
9:49 pm
I like Georgia weather. Variety is the spice of life, no? And you can get all four seasons in one week down here. It’s just great.\
I rather enjoyed the weather(other than the 1 big t-storm 6-14 i think).
We come home (Oklahoma) it was 108 here…heat index of 114 @4pm
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
9:55 pm
Is Ben Francisco going to be the hero?
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
9:57 pm
Guess he is….GW RBI single.
Phillie magic.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
9:57 pm
You can’t bottle that folks.
Choppinmama
June 24th, 2011
9:57 pm
DOB –
Thanks for introducing us to that song. I got my hubby to listen to it as Mantle was his boyhood idol. When he was a high school pitcher, he met MM at some sports show and was just thrilled.
Of course, I had to listen to his story – again – about how he pitched a no-hitter on a broken ankle in the last 4 innings. No kidding, I have confirmed this story at a high school reuntion.
OK, gametime!!!!!!!!!!
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
9:59 pm
But the other drivers were never rude and not a single middle finger salute in our 10 days in town.
Good, I’m glad you never passed by jeffrey…
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
10:00 pm
JOE WEST 1 OAKLAND 0 FINAL
He torments us consistently.
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2011
10:00 pm
Ugh…Padres announcers. They are so boring (sorry T Gwynn!)
tiger297
June 24th, 2011
10:01 pm
is it game time yet?
Soph
June 24th, 2011
10:01 pm
I really miss ‘teeeen.
CaptainMudderland
June 24th, 2011
10:02 pm
Well here we go…11 games would be nice, let’s get the bats cracking boys! Go Bravos!!
lexbrave
June 24th, 2011
10:02 pm
not gonna lie, i’m getting real tired of the phillies winning every night.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
10:02 pm
I am a very safe and friendly driver, thank you.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
10:02 pm
Soph – Yep, me too. Was just thinking about him.
Moe Berg
June 24th, 2011
10:03 pm
@AdamRubinESPN Terry Collins is tied with Fredi Gonzalez for second-most managerial seniority in NL East with current team.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:03 pm
Did anyone else hear Fred Hickman say that Prado wasn’t going to be back ’til August?
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
10:03 pm
Joe West just hates us…not sure what we did to offend him…
Roman Gal And you can get all four seasons in one week down here. It’s just great.
This is true. We are quite unique!
No really, I do enjoy the fact that we actually get all four seasons (with the exception of last year when we had no Fall…).
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2011
10:03 pm
I’m especially going to miss Marteen on Sunday from the Left Field seats…
T for Texas
June 24th, 2011
10:04 pm
You are correct, cabravesfan. The SD announcers are snooozers, with three o’s.
Soph
June 24th, 2011
10:04 pm
Whaaaaat? No freakin’ way.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
10:04 pm
Game-Time!
All Da Way Mellowed Out!
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2011
10:04 pm
T-Gwynn’s random drawl drives me crazy…
Kat
June 24th, 2011
10:05 pm
Watching something I can’t talk about per blog rules
instead of the game right now. Hopefully it’ll be done in at least an hour and I can get back to the game.
sri
June 24th, 2011
10:05 pm
For those who do not get the game on TV, Braves game is free on MLB TV.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/?&affiliateId=MLBTVTAB
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
10:05 pm
66 degrees in S.D.?
Nice!
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
10:06 pm
Watching something I can’t talk about per blog rules
You’re watchin C-SPAN?
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:06 pm
DOB’s new column says that there’s no timetable for Prado, so I think ol’ Fred must’ve made a mistake when he said that…at least I hope so.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:07 pm
McFann-
And Spring this year was pretty short, too…
Soph
June 24th, 2011
10:07 pm
RG
eeeeee– I want you to know that I almost like Schauffeurre as much as you now.Well, probably not that much but he’s certainly grown me.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:08 pm
I think Schafer’s due for some bloop hits.
cabravesfan
June 24th, 2011
10:09 pm
We have seasons here!
Football season (Fall)
Basketball season (Winter)
Spring Training (Spring)
Baseball season (Summer)
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:09 pm
Soph-
What’s not to like?
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
10:09 pm
Gordon
“Real Men can take the heat. Real Men don’t complain.”
Screw That! I’m Metrosexual! I can tolerate heat but I hate humidity!
Soph
June 24th, 2011
10:09 pm
Well, unless you has magical powers, he hasn’t actually grown me.
grown ON me
Bat Masterson
June 24th, 2011
10:09 pm
Bryn _
Its a fascinating bit of American history. Yeah, the comanches were nomadic and had a low birth rate and they did adopt a lot of the children they captured, wether from other tribes, white, mexican whatever. Plus the women did most of the hard work, tanning the hides, making the teepees, cooking the meat and smoking the meat for travel, on and on.
You could say the Comanches were the best horse mounted fighters of them all. Whatever one thinks, once they were introduced to the horse they dominated their area. They ran the Spanish, the Mexicans and the other tribes out of a very large part of the mid/southern plains. When non Indians fought them they had to dismount to fight, they had no chance. Once the Rangers got the revolver and learned the Comanche way to travel the plains and fight on horseback that all changed.
Cynthia Ann Parker’s husband Peta Nocona was killed in the fight were she was rescued/captured though she did not believe it. She had her daughter Prairie Flower with her, but her two sons were left behind. One of her sons died and the other became a Great Chief and after the Comanches moved to the reservation he became wealthy and was the only Chief of all the Comanche ever. Cynthia Ann’s daughter died a few years later. Cynthia ann was bitterly unhappy and wanted to be reunited with her sons she died a few years later never having seen them again.
Kat
June 24th, 2011
10:09 pm
jeffrey d .. my states version of it.
Soph
June 24th, 2011
10:10 pm
Ok, I’ll stop typing now. Obviously not all here tonight.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
10:10 pm
Professional hitter.
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:11 pm
Nicely placed, Chipper!!!
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
10:11 pm
What’s not to like?
Low average?
MrC
June 24th, 2011
10:11 pm
Schafer sees 9 pitches and hit the ball good. Several on here complain about his “stats”. But what about the pitches he sees and the OBP w/errors.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:13 pm
No one is perfect.
tmc
June 24th, 2011
10:13 pm
I heard Fred Hickmans say “August return for Martin…”
I’ve been saying it since Prado went out of the lineup. I don’t think it’s staph only that is the problem. He also got his left knee operated on at the same time as the staph stuff. I know staph is tricky, but over 2 months recovery? it just doesn’t seem right.
Anyone in the medical profession that can elaborate on staph? (lol, i know i’m stretching it a bit in this crowd and a friday night)
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
10:13 pm
That bit.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:14 pm
…except maybe Riaan Spanjer-Furstenburg. Not sure what the Braves were thinking when they let him go.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
10:14 pm
I know. I like Cheayf
Soph
June 24th, 2011
10:14 pm
‘teen ‘teen commercial.
♥
Doc "Joe is gone" Holliday
June 24th, 2011
10:15 pm
One thing is being slow because you are catcher, but running slower than a turtle if you are not in your 30´s is another.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:16 pm
This one time, I watched an episode of House where the patient had a staph infection and died…
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:17 pm
Cheayf?
[sigh]
A-Ville Ranger
June 24th, 2011
10:18 pm
I misstated in my last post. The Phillies have the top 2 starters in the NL in innings pitched, not in the MLs. Here’s a bit of a break down..
Philly. has the 31, #2 and #9 starters in the NL in innings pitched. Between them they’ve pitched 335.1 innings as of today.
Atlanta has the # , #38 and #40 starters in innings pitched. Between them they’ve pitched 273.2 innings going into today.
So the top 3 in their rotation have already pitched 62 more innings combined than our top 3. Over the course of a season this could be a ginormous factor.
The Braves owned the east 14 straight years largely because we had 3 extremely talented inning eating starters.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
10:18 pm
Does he still get the stolen base?
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:18 pm
Is Ross hurt tonight?
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:19 pm
Over the course of a season this could be a ginormous factor.
Because they’ll be worn out?
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
10:20 pm
Roman Gal And Spring this year was pretty short, too…
Very true…VERY true…
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
10:21 pm
Get ‘im, cab!!
A-Ville Ranger
June 24th, 2011
10:22 pm
Dang, I can’t get it right tonight. My last post should read the Phillies have the #1, #2 and #9 starters in innings pitched NOT the 31, #2 and #9. I missed the shift key.
Braves Fan in PA
June 24th, 2011
10:22 pm
Chris Medlen just tweeted this picture. Is it real?
http://lockerz.com/s/113848211
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:24 pm
McFann – I distracted her while I was getting dinner out…
Doc "Joe is gone" Holliday
June 24th, 2011
10:24 pm
tcm,
Staph is not the problem, an abscess is an abscess, no matter what the bacteria is. A wound should close by itself after drainage in 2 weeks, 3 weeks tops (and I would say 3 weeks is too much for a healthy athlete around 30 YO. Once you wash that cavity in the surgery room and give him a week of IV antibiotics, that should start healing real fast.
A-Ville Ranger
June 24th, 2011
10:24 pm
Pens wear out much easier than big strong armed starters. It’s an advantage for any team with starters who can go 200+ innings.
Braves Fan in PA
June 24th, 2011
10:24 pm
Should be Kris not Chris and I think Peter Moylan is behind it.
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:25 pm
Ouch…
Najeh Davenpoop
June 24th, 2011
10:27 pm
Joe Simpson just called out Dan Uggla…
tmc
June 24th, 2011
10:29 pm
thanks Doc- that’s about what i was thinking too.
A 27 year old professional athlete should respond pretty quickly.
I think CSI-Braves Live should get all over this. Something stinks.
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:29 pm
That inning could have gone better…
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
10:30 pm
Here come the “ballgames.”
Stauffer looks un-hittable.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2011
10:31 pm
All three pitchers for Houston so far tonight have been named Rodriguez. Too bad Pudge doesn’t catch for the ‘Stros anymore.
Canton
June 24th, 2011
10:31 pm
Najeh,
As someone that religiously reads your posts on the hawks blog, please elaborate. I am beyond my boiling point with Uggla. Somethings got to give with him. My cousin who is in college told me he sees him at the buckhead bars upwards of 4 nights a week. Doesn’t sound like someone who cares to me and it is angering me greatly.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:31 pm
Stauffer looks un-hittable.
Except the Braves already have 2 hits. They just need Schafer to get back up to bat…
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
10:31 pm
V. Jim—
She cann always go back and read it…
Ouch…
The way Joe said that about Uggla really bugged me. I mean, he’s trying, Joe! Or, no…maybe he WANTS to hit .177—he’s DREAMED about it his whole life!!
Gyah…
nolee
June 24th, 2011
10:32 pm
I know staph is tricky, but over 2 months recovery? it just doesn’t seem right.
sure it seems right if the injury is any size at all. two to three months or even longer is not unusual with healing from the bottom up. I’ve spent longer times that that on an IV every day healing from staph wounds. at least Marteen got of that fairly quickly.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
10:32 pm
Stauffer looks un-hittable.
Only to the over-reactors
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
10:33 pm
Maybe nolie really is a Seminole warrior
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:33 pm
McFann – tho “ouch” indicated that she noticed, thanks to you…
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:33 pm
I must’ve zoned out during Ugglas’ at-bat. What did Joe say?
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
10:33 pm
They really love this Rizzo character…
Kat
June 24th, 2011
10:34 pm
Okay back…. and now onto baseball and not too many pages to catch up on.
Zoobiliee Zoo
June 24th, 2011
10:34 pm
Wow. Braves telecast posts a quote from Dan Uggla about “wanting to win a championship”. Joe Simpson gets pissed and says “you better start hitting, kid”. Uggla swings and misses, his bat goes flying into the crowd. He then strikes out afterwards. FAIL.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:35 pm
As hard a time as they’ve had scoring runs, why give them anything?
That statement can go both ways…
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
10:35 pm
We’re playing in because we may be lucky to score a run tonight.
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:35 pm
tho = the – trying to eat Buffalo Wild Wings while typing can be problematic…
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
10:35 pm
Why does it seem Lowe starts EVERY road trip?
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
10:35 pm
Wow, sounds like Joe absolutely roasted Uggla
nolee
June 24th, 2011
10:35 pm
he was trying to hit Joe with the bat. too bad he missed
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
10:35 pm
V. Jim—
Oh, haha! You’re welcome!
Roman Gal—
He was talking about that quote of Uggla’s about wanting to win a championship, and how the Braves have the pieces to do that, and then said, harshly, “Well, if you wanna win championships, you gotta start hitting!”
Really bugged me…
Stizz
June 24th, 2011
10:35 pm
“My cousin who is in college told me he sees him at the buckhead bars upwards of 4 nights a week”
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
10:36 pm
I thought you ate steak every meal
Zoobiliee Zoo
June 24th, 2011
10:37 pm
It’s an MLB rule that you must have someone on your roster named Gonzalez or Rodriguez.
TB bravesfan
June 24th, 2011
10:37 pm
why don;t they strike out like we do?
Stizz
June 24th, 2011
10:38 pm
^^^
That bartender should be fired for letting him in once a month, let alone four times a week.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:38 pm
My cousin who is in college told me he sees him at the buckhead bars upwards of 4 nights a week.
Sounds like your cousin has a bit of a problem.
Charles
June 24th, 2011
10:38 pm
someone please elaborate on simpsons’s comments!
nolee
June 24th, 2011
10:39 pm
what business is it of yours how he spends his nights? and why in God’s name would it bother you?
Charles
June 24th, 2011
10:39 pm
Roman Gal, how about Uggla having a problem at age 31 you moron. A college kid going to a bar 4 times a week is not a problem. Idiot.
Zoobiliee Zoo
June 24th, 2011
10:40 pm
Simpson basically said “Uggla, if you want to win a championship, you’re gonna have to make some adjustments and do your part.” And then Uggla struck out. Basically, Joe Simpson sounds like a frequent poster on this blog.
Herm
June 24th, 2011
10:40 pm
Roman Gal is an idiot.
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
10:40 pm
Wonder if the Sawx would take a flyer on this guy and some salary to replace Lackey.
Time for the young guys.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
10:40 pm
Chin-up y’all, we just gotta strap em on and go get em tomorrow night. We can still win the series.
Charles
June 24th, 2011
10:41 pm
Thanks Zoobiliee, I appreciate it. Gotta agree with him though, right?
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
10:41 pm
Roman Gal, how about Uggla having a problem at age 31 you moron. A college kid going to a bar 4 times a week is not a problem. Idiot.
Ha! He told you.
By the way, it’s okay to go to a bar a lot if he does it, but not for anybody else.
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:41 pm
Only when I cook (no, not really even then). This is the celebratory meal cab is treating me too since I worked all night yesterday. We would have gone out to dinner if the game had been earlier…
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
10:41 pm
I DID elaborate on Joe’s comment!!
Does nobody read my posts anymore?
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:41 pm
Roman Gal, how about Uggla having a problem at age 31 you moron. A college kid going to a bar 4 times a week is not a problem. Idiot.
Riiight…
tmc
June 24th, 2011
10:41 pm
nolee- i’m not saying you’re wrong, but are you a professional athlete in your 20’s? or in top notch athletic condition?
How big could it have been? the guy was playing everyday up to june 7th… then all of a sudden he takes a ball off his knee… and was projected to miss one start or two tops. Now it’s August? (and don’t kid yourself about Fred Hickman saying August. They don’t slip about stuff like that. That statement is based on information he or the producers know about. I can guarantee that.
John Leonard
June 24th, 2011
10:42 pm
SRI: Thanks for the link.
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:42 pm
“My cousin who is in college told me he sees him at the buckhead bars upwards of 4 nights a week”
That’s why the Yankees sucked in the ’60’s…
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
10:42 pm
Just got a Lecture from my dad on the phone!
What Did I Miss?
nolee
June 24th, 2011
10:42 pm
time for the young guys??
tmc
June 24th, 2011
10:43 pm
maybe Uggla should start drinking during the games!
maybe that will help…It can’t hurt.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:45 pm
Roman Gal is an idiot.
Preach it!
Canton
June 24th, 2011
10:45 pm
Thanks for the responses guys. And romangal, why the need to call out my cousin? Just saying what I heard and was validated by numerous people who have seen him out. Relax.
TB bravesfan
June 24th, 2011
10:45 pm
going to be a short night.
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
10:45 pm
Yeah — Teheran, Minor, Vizcaino, Hoover, Delgado…..shall I go on?
Lowe’s still trade bait this year….. but if he’s still horrible next year no one’s biting.
Canton
June 24th, 2011
10:45 pm
But you’re not an idiot!
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:46 pm
tmc – what is your point? Is Martin a slacker? Is he seriously ill and they won’t tell us?
Seriously, do some research since you seem so befuddled…
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:46 pm
McFann-
I read your post but I’m an idiot, so pay me no mind.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
10:46 pm
Venice Jim’
Big Red Hangs Out at East Andrews (A big Boy exquisite bar in Buckhead) often….
And this one chick that I know has kicked it with MEDS and Vennie Macc Last year at The Hudson Grille
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
10:47 pm
Wow, we’re gonna be graced with Charles, Charles’ cousin, and Herm tonight?? Why, I’ve got a feeling that my uncle just might show up….
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:47 pm
but if he’s still horrible next year
Just curious – do you think he’s horrible this year?
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
10:47 pm
i have said time and time again Uggla needs to start calling his shot everytime he steps to the plate
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
10:48 pm
Venable owns us.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
10:48 pm
and was projected to miss one start or two tops.
he was never projected to miss only one or two games. Once they opened that thing up and decided to let it heal that way there was no way it was gonna be ready to play on in less than a month. and physical condition is not that big a determining factor if you have ever spent any amount of time in an infectious disease specialists office. Staph and strep both can be hugely resistant to drugs anymore
Uncle Joseph D
June 24th, 2011
10:48 pm
Hello Bloggers! My nephew Jeffrey D is the single most intelligent, handsome, and funny character in the galaxy!
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
10:48 pm
What is it with us and the Padres? We don’t play well against them at all.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
10:48 pm
Thanks Uncle Joe!
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
10:48 pm
Roman Gal—
I’ll make a note of that—from one And Idiot to another.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
10:49 pm
Uncle Joseph D, That is funny, I was just named the most interesting man in the world.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
10:49 pm
Nice throw Mac. Lovely.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:49 pm
Canton-
I was merely joking. Don’t worry, my friend, it won’t happen again.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
10:49 pm
[Expletive deleted]…
Kat
June 24th, 2011
10:49 pm
Eh, I tune in to see a hit and a steal.
NO MORE PARRISH
June 24th, 2011
10:49 pm
I predict Braves offense will vanish on this road trip and still Wren does nothing about Parrish.
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:50 pm
Tomahawkin’ – and your point would be? Young people like to go out at night? I used to go out when I had to be at work at 8:00 the next morning, and these guys usually start a bit later…
nolee
June 24th, 2011
10:50 pm
Jeffrey D funny???
hmm, I never noticed…
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
10:50 pm
The Padres have the most bland uniforms in baseball.
TB bravesfan
June 24th, 2011
10:51 pm
Another below 500 team
nolee
June 24th, 2011
10:51 pm
We will perish with Parrish!!
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
10:51 pm
Jeffrey D funny???
hmm, I never noticed…
I see you’re giving me handsome and intelligent.
tiger297
June 24th, 2011
10:51 pm
wait is T-hawking saying…nevermind no idea WTH he is saying
nolee
June 24th, 2011
10:51 pm
SERIES!!!!
tmc
June 24th, 2011
10:52 pm
Venice Jim- my point is i don’t think the Braves are being forthcoming with Prado’s injury or recovery information.
Sorry, i’m not a doctor when it comes to staph infections… i got nothing against Prado, he is my favorite Braves player. I just don’t think we are getting all the information from the Braves. Why are you so upset with my asking?
nolee
June 24th, 2011
10:52 pm
well you do have some assets I guess jd
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
10:52 pm
Bet the Padres Don’t Score Here! Watch and Bank On It!
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
10:53 pm
I see what you did there Nolee….parrish…..perish…woooo, thats some funny ish man, suprised my son hasn’t son that one.
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:53 pm
But, the recovery information is “it heals when it heals” – some things do not have a definitive time line…
Steve from OH
June 24th, 2011
10:54 pm
DOB:
My little brother is hangin’ with Hal McCoy tonight. Sounds like he wants to become an ink-stained wretch like yourself…any advice I can pass on to the kid?
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
10:54 pm
Lowe’s throwing way too many pitches.
Canton
June 24th, 2011
10:54 pm
No worries RomanGal! Just making sure you knew that you weren’t an idiot either!
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
10:54 pm
I could be kickin’ it with my crew at a rock show but, opted for this instead????
For cryin’ out loud.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
10:54 pm
tmc, a staph infection in the calf, and your questioning him, come on….thats all the info you need to know.
DOB
June 24th, 2011
10:55 pm
Yes, dont do it!!
Stizz
June 24th, 2011
10:55 pm
That being said, I have heard that Uggla frequents Peachtree Tavern a bit. He would never hear the end of it if he was playing for either of the NY teams or Chicago if they caught him out like that.
Mixxo
June 24th, 2011
10:55 pm
ballgame
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:55 pm
Oh look, our resident doctor blogger just showed up.
Although, I like to think I’m qualified to discuss staph infections since I saw that one episode of House…
shelbydawkins
June 24th, 2011
10:55 pm
ever since Danny Bautista dropped that ball in left, the Padres have had our number. I hate them.
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
10:56 pm
There’s a run.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
10:56 pm
tmc, I’m not a medical doctor but I have spent untold months watching folks get infections healed….AND I spent a night in a Holiday Inn Express one time a few years ago.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
10:56 pm
Ballgame…what?
MFin04
June 24th, 2011
10:56 pm
This is the Padres offense “lighting it up” against Derek Lowe.
jeff
June 24th, 2011
10:57 pm
2-0 freakin Padres.. bravoo. Tim Stauffer who is 2-5 and a era of over 5 and we cant score off him.. 3 in a row to the weak padres..
TruthSeeker
June 24th, 2011
10:57 pm
Derek Lowe = the anti-momentum.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
10:57 pm
Ok Braves, lets get it goin guys!!
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
10:57 pm
One never sees Jeter or A-Rod in the NY tabloids…
nolee
June 24th, 2011
10:58 pm
I’m kinda surprised that you picked up on that Skip. Good for you.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
10:58 pm
Well thank you, Canton. I’ll try to refrain from making too many more sarcastic statements towards you…at least for the next 10 minutes or so.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
10:59 pm
Hey Nolee, even a zombie has brains, even though we like to eat them
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
10:59 pm
“Tim Stauffer who is 2-5 and a era of over 5 and we cant score off him.”
Our offense sucks, but Stauffer’s got a pretty good ERA. Just over 3 for the season.
jeff
June 24th, 2011
11:00 pm
i predict we lose 2 of 3 to the padres and mariners.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:00 pm
I love Zombies. Can’t wait for Walking Dead to get back.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:00 pm
I feel ya Powder, we suck against San Diego….its freakin killin me…even though I am dead already
TB bravesfan
June 24th, 2011
11:01 pm
JUST a swanging
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:01 pm
Walking Dead?
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:02 pm
A little optomism Jeff
Canton
June 24th, 2011
11:02 pm
Ha, well now that I know they’re sarcastic you can keep em coming. I initially took it as condescending which is why it annoyed me a bit. Now you can keep going.
In other news, Heyward the next Francouer anyone? He’s not looking good at all.
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
11:02 pm
Sorry you’re dead and all, Skip. You are missed.
jeff
June 24th, 2011
11:02 pm
thats what MLB network said sorry my bad..
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:03 pm
In fact if they keep walking we could use a couple in out batting order., get the ol’ OBP up a bit, though they are a bit slow from first to third and second to home….
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
11:03 pm
Need to get all of these outs out of the way before Sunday – my grand-daughter will be very upset if she doesn’t see the Braves score a lot of runs…
TB bravesfan
June 24th, 2011
11:03 pm
That’s right chipper you show them how to hit a ground ball.
tmc
June 24th, 2011
11:03 pm
nolie- i’m talking about initially before staph was discovered…
Game notes (from June
“Braves LF Martin Prado was held out of the starting lineup. He bruised his left knee when hit by a throw stealing second base Tuesday. Gonzalez said he might miss only one start. … ”
And after reading several articles from the june 10-13… it was a 2″ cut and everything said then 2-3 weeks until it completely closes…
(there’s your research)
August is completely different than even 3-5 weeks.
Steve from OH
June 24th, 2011
11:03 pm
Venice Jim- my point is i don’t think the Braves are being forthcoming with Prado’s injury or recovery information.
Look, it sounds like they had to debride Prado’s wound based on what DOB said. Meaning they cut his leg open and now it has to heal. Sounds like it might be more than a few days, don’t you think? Plus he probably has to undergo a pretty significant antibiotic course. This is not a simple sore-throat type of infection and it’s going to take time to not only complete his drug regimen but to simply heal his incision. I think the Braves are being as forthcoming as they need to be.
Tomas
June 24th, 2011
11:04 pm
This Stauffer kid looks good.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:04 pm
Hey Powder, no problem..just kickin back, enjoying the Braves and some Brains!!!
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2011
11:05 pm
Braves haven’t hit a ball in the air since Chipper’s first-inning single. 11 outs in the last 10 ATL batters.
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
11:05 pm
Possible Larry Parrish commercial….
Braves Baseball sponsored by Orkin…..
“When our bats become infested by termites, we can always count on our Orkin man!”
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:06 pm
I meant after the staph was opened up. thats the way it goes sometimes tmc. Like I said I have seen folks take months to heal from some strains of staph. I’m not sure why you are seeing a conspiracy about it.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
11:06 pm
Good to see ya, Steve-OH.
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
11:06 pm
“11 outs in the last 10 ATL batters.”
Par for the course.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:06 pm
Steve, yes, they had to make an incision and are waiting for that to heal before they activate him, that is all
UKUGA
June 24th, 2011
11:07 pm
Watching these late night games on the West Coast bring back memories of my childhood.
I remember a Friday night back in 1988, the Braves split a Friday night double header with the Padres.
In game 1, the Braves’ Jeff Treadway used the hidden ball trick to pick off Marvell Wynne for the 2nd out in the ninth. Joe Boever then struck out Roberto Alomar to secure the 6-5 win.
The Padres won the night cap, 2-0, and I can distinctly remember Padres fans booing Treadway during his first AB in the G2.
go Braves!
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SDN/SDN198908111.shtml
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
11:07 pm
Old time Rams WR Jack Snow (J.T.’s dad) died from staph.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
11:08 pm
I don’t think I’ve ever seen the hidden ball trick actually work…
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:08 pm
Hi Steve, getting any time off?
Mitchell
June 24th, 2011
11:08 pm
We’re watching a game between a team that know’s it’s limitations and knows what it needs to do score just enough runs for their pitchers who are by and large good enough to win with limited run support and a team that tries to hit three run home runs with nobody on base.
I’m predicting a loss for the 43 win Braves and a win for the 44 loss Padres.
Steve from OH
June 24th, 2011
11:08 pm
Backatcha, RG.
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
11:08 pm
“Joe Boever then struck out Roberto Alomar to secure the 6-5 win.”
Ah, Joe “Leave It To” Boever and his palmball. Good times.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
11:09 pm
The corndog has a crutch! How have I never noticed that before…
TB bravesfan
June 24th, 2011
11:09 pm
I hate these west coast late games. when we can’t hit, can’t run, can’t win.
UKUGA
June 24th, 2011
11:09 pm
Gamecocks doing their best not to choke like the Cavaliers did in the top of the 12th.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:10 pm
oh hey, Ray o’ Sunshine Mitchell is here. We are all due for some chuckles
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
11:10 pm
Stadium is so beautiful…it needs a better name…
tmc
June 24th, 2011
11:10 pm
look, ya’ll can attack me all you want. But it doesn’t change things.
He is going to miss A LOT of time for a 2″ staph infected cut.
The Braves haven’t been completely honest in the past about injuries with other players… I don’t think they are being honest in this case either.
AGAIN- i got nothing against Prado. I love him. But his left knee was operated on at the same time as the staph “opening”. coincidence? i think not.
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
11:11 pm
Roman Gal The corndog has a crutch! How have I never noticed that before…
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
11:11 pm
Holy c**p…
UKUGA
June 24th, 2011
11:12 pm
The older gentleman sitting behind home plate (just above the Petco sign) looks quite a bit like Joe Biden, especially when he’s facing the camera and you can’t see the back of his hair. He has the same shiny forehead.
jeff
June 24th, 2011
11:12 pm
stauffer has 6 strikeouts through not even 5 innings. . now thats just sad..
Mitchell
June 24th, 2011
11:12 pm
Swing and a miss.
Why don’t they stand behind the batter in the other box?
That makes no effing sense whatsoever.
Canton
June 24th, 2011
11:12 pm
Here comes UGGLA! 2 k’s coming right up!
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
11:13 pm
Looks like we’ve gone back to “hack attack” mode.
Shooter McGavin
June 24th, 2011
11:13 pm
So tired of being tired with this lineup…
TB bravesfan
June 24th, 2011
11:13 pm
swanging dan.
NO MORE PARRISH
June 24th, 2011
11:13 pm
David O’Brien – Braves haven’t hit a ball in the air since Chipper’s first-inning single. 11 outs in the last 10 ATL batters.
Stop being a punk Wren and FIRE PARRISH!!!!
Canton
June 24th, 2011
11:14 pm
Joe Simpson retracting his statements like a typical vag.
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
11:14 pm
I don’t think anyone is attacking you, tcm, but you have to admit that you’re sounding a little conspiracy-theorist-like. People rarely accept those types of statements easily.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:14 pm
TMC, maybe they arent’t. Does it matter? And how do you know it was a 2″ incision?
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:14 pm
I’m not sure how you think I have been attacking you by pointing out the possible facts.
but if you ain’t a doctor or have actually suffered from staph infections that are opened up and allowed to heal from the bottom up, I’m not sure why you think you have any real insight into the situation??
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:15 pm
Thunder Dan I thought….
Brave4life-1995 all over again?
June 24th, 2011
11:15 pm
I know Uggla is struggling mightily, but at least he is running every ball out
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
11:15 pm
McFann-
I guess I normally get caught up in the tune…
MFin04
June 24th, 2011
11:15 pm
Umm this offense is still bad.
Shooter McGavin
June 24th, 2011
11:16 pm
Would you guys just calm down! No one can hit a 92MPH fastball right down the middle. No one…It has never been done.
TB bravesfan
June 24th, 2011
11:16 pm
we get out by a step and they are safe by a step.
jeff
June 24th, 2011
11:17 pm
stauffer thru 5 innings and scoreless. brilliant.. not one single hit since the first inning and throw 6 strikeouts in there as well. wow thier approach is soo bad from game to game.. Get a player who consistently makes contact and a reall hitting coach.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:17 pm
this game is SOOOO OVER!!!
Fire everybody and bring up the AAA team.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2011
11:17 pm
Lest anyone forget: Padres’ Stauffer had 0.41 ERA, .192 opp. avg. in past three starts, with 1 run and 15 hits allowed in 22 innings.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:18 pm
I have actually had a staph infection, but I was not an pro athlete. I had one that infected my left foot, I could not walk on that foot fot a month and a half. They had to cut open maybe an inch of my heel. It was pretty painful.
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
11:19 pm
Actually with the Sawx offense Lowe could win 10 in the 2nd half with his 4 ERA.
Deal him and his treasure chest for some chowdah.
Bat Masterson
June 24th, 2011
11:19 pm
tmc
the marteen conspiracy? hum
brian
June 24th, 2011
11:20 pm
thanks for the last post DOB – save me from complaining about only 2 hits through 5 for the Braves
brian
June 24th, 2011
11:20 pm
thanks for the last post DOB – save me from complaining about only 2 hits through 5 for the Braves
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:20 pm
Lets let the bats start it up after the 7th plz
Mitchell
June 24th, 2011
11:20 pm
I have another prediction, for the road trip:
Braves drop two of three in San Diego, lose game one in Seattle but bounce back with wins in their final two games against the Mariners for an impressive 3-3 West Coast jaunt.
And surely in their post-game comments following the final game they’ll pat themselves on the back for finishing on a good note and talk about how they know they can play better.
Because that’s what they do.
But hey, if they come tonight and go 6-0 I’ll gladly eat my words. But something tells me I won’t have to.
alex
June 24th, 2011
11:21 pm
tmc and nolee, MRSA can be partucularly virulent and occassionally requires that the wound be repeatedly debrided to remove devitalized tissue..This infection can literally “explode ” in a matter of hours. There are many antibiotics available ,but on occasion they are not paricularly effective and can take several days to stabalize the situation, much less to rid the tissue of bacteria… There is a report in SI several years ago that discusses this in laymens terms. May want to goog
le this. If I remember correctly, I believe the article discusses a california football player who almost died from a leg mrsa infection and missed the entire season!.
brian
June 24th, 2011
11:21 pm
sorry for the double post – Skip – I hope you are OK. Sounds like Prado is doing OK from an infection standpoint. Just waiting for the wound to heal so he can resume activities
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 24th, 2011
11:21 pm
Roman Gal—
That could be…I don’t think I noticed it the first few times, either.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:21 pm
Mitchel. A 3-3 west coast road trip is actually good, I will take that, but we should do better considering the competition
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2011
11:22 pm
Could’ve pretty much played 6-on-6 in this game, let the outfields take the night off.
Shooter McGavin
June 24th, 2011
11:22 pm
We hear you DOB. The tipping of the cap started before the game.
alex
June 24th, 2011
11:22 pm
No, I did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express hotel…..
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
11:23 pm
Mitchell – thank you for being the annoying hater you love to pretend you are…
By the way – you do realize they have the 4th best record in MLB, despite your constant wailing and gnashing of teeth?
tmc
June 24th, 2011
11:23 pm
Skip- read it.
“CBSSports.com Fantasy — Braves OF Martin Prado continues to make strides in his recover from a staph infection, although there is still no timetable for his return, according to multiple reports. Prado, who has been sidelined since doctors found a staph infection on his right calf June 9, has a cut on his leg that measures nearly two inches. He will not be permitted to resume baseball activities until the cut completely closes but has been cleared to begin doing upper body strength drills. “It’s getting better every day,” general manager Frank Wren told MLB.com. “But it’s just a wait-and-see kind of thing. You just h…
June 20, 2011″
http://www.sportsoverdose.com/mlb-players/martin-prado
is one of the places i read it… i actually do research before i type.
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
11:23 pm
“let the outfields take the night off.”
Looks like our outfield’s been playing under that assumption anyway. At the plate at least.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:23 pm
Alex, yo are correct, you have to remove the infection before it literally spreads and gets way worse than you can imagine.
Doc "Joe is gone" Holliday
June 24th, 2011
11:24 pm
tcm,
Sont worry, you will be seeing Prado back in the lineup soon. That August comment could have been just mistaken info.
jeff
June 24th, 2011
11:24 pm
14 straight batters retired by stauffer wow this team sucks …
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:24 pm
tmc and nolee Alex
not sure why I an being include there since I have been saying the exact thing that you just did. I am very aware of how bad staph can possibly be for some folks even if it isn’t MRSA
brian
June 24th, 2011
11:25 pm
Alex – wheras MRSA typically is more virulent than OSSA, it still is usually confined to a skin infection. Unfortunately it is more likely to abscess which will require I&D. Due to the infection, once the incision is made it has to heal by secondary intention (inside out) instead of sewing it up. This greatly increases the time out of action due to the time required to heal..
It has spread through locker rooms from high schools to pro sports. Luckily this seems confined to Prado. It went through the St. Louis Rams locker room years ago and ended Mike Martz’s head coaching career their when he got MRSA endocarditis (infection on a heart valve).
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
11:25 pm
tmc – what you quoted is exactly what everyone has been saying…it’s a question of “when it heals, it heals”…
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:25 pm
tmc, so what is the point? I mean it literally is a wait and see, its an infection, not a bruise that yo know will go away with time
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 24th, 2011
11:25 pm
This is boring!…
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:26 pm
It happened at the browns locker room too
Mitchell
June 24th, 2011
11:26 pm
David O’Brien
June 24th, 2011
11:17 pm
Lest anyone forget: Padres’ Stauffer had 0.41 ERA, .192 opp. avg. in past three starts, with 1 run and 15 hits allowed in 22 innings.
Yeah, but they’re getting out-played. The Padres know they can’t hit home runs so they don’t try. They get on base and make things happen because that’s all they can do. That’s why they don’t win a lot of games.
But when they play teams that can’t play small ball… LIKE THE BRAVES!!!… they have them beat.
The Braves come out thinking extra base hits and
DAM
June 24th, 2011
11:26 pm
The CWS game between South Carolina and Virginia has been very entertaining.
Tomas
June 24th, 2011
11:27 pm
Schafer being robbed again
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2011
11:27 pm
Schafer just lined out to CF to end 6th, nice catch. That was first Braves fly ball since 1st inning,
Mitchell
June 24th, 2011
11:27 pm
“They” the Braves, I meant.
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
11:27 pm
We need bats. Badly.
frank wren
June 24th, 2011
11:27 pm
i was hoping mather would go back to triple a hit about 250 again so i could justify bringing him back up– because that would be better than our present outfield without prado– oh well mather is still a great player i am so surprised no one else wanted him— i never make any mistakes— as far as constanza or gomez they are hitting two well- in would mess up team chemistry— to bring them up—- i rather give up our farm for bourn or pence–
MFin04
June 24th, 2011
11:27 pm
So this team can’t hit good pitching or terrible pitching. Apparently we need a mediocre pitcher to come into the game.
TB bravesfan
June 24th, 2011
11:27 pm
Cant’ we all just get a hit.
jeff
June 24th, 2011
11:28 pm
make it 15.. my goodness goodnight… chalk it up with an L.. and u give a game back to the phillies. time for bed. this team is just sad.. and just lucky to be ten games over 500. the pitching is the only reason it is….
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
11:28 pm
This is boring!…
McFann, you’re turning into Tomahawkin’…how sad…
Roman Gal
June 24th, 2011
11:28 pm
At least Schafer knows how to hit it to the outfield. Now if he could just find a way to avoid those pesky gloves…
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:28 pm
Jet lagged, of hung over…which is it?
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
11:28 pm
“That was first Braves fly ball since 1st inning,”
PROGRESS!
Steve from OH
June 24th, 2011
11:28 pm
nolie–a few weeks, starting Tuesday around 4…can’t wait.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:29 pm
Jet lagged, or hung over…which is it?
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
11:29 pm
And like I said before…. MRSA killed Jack Snow, who was a broadcaster for the Rams at the time.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:29 pm
ok it is what it is and no amount of debate or conspiracy theorying is gonna change when he gets back.
It has been explained what some of the possible exceptions can be, enuff. I give up
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:29 pm
Sorry for the dupe
njbraves
June 24th, 2011
11:29 pm
Offense up to their old tricks tonight.
Steve from OH
June 24th, 2011
11:30 pm
tmc–dude, Prado’s course is not outside the ordinary.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2011
11:30 pm
The Braves come out thinking extra base hits and
Whoops, I forgot to delete part.
I found a way to say what I wanted to say without going on and on and on… and on.
It’s not like me. I’m turning over a new leaf apparently.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:30 pm
Thank you nolee, hopefully it is
Doc Holliday
June 24th, 2011
11:30 pm
McFann :Ô: :Ô: ,
At least no PBs tonite………LOL
Najeh Davenpoop
June 24th, 2011
11:31 pm
Wow, you would think Chip Caray would do a better impression of his dad.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:31 pm
Whats the Padres starters pitch count at?
Kat
June 24th, 2011
11:32 pm
What just happened? Lost it in the lights perhaps?
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
11:32 pm
I like Chip’s Skip impression
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:32 pm
Heyward has ahuge arm, nice recovery
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:33 pm
we would all appreciate that Mitchell….seriously
Jerry
June 24th, 2011
11:33 pm
Another Heyward misplay in right.
keylargo
June 24th, 2011
11:33 pm
Speaking of the Beaver, here is The Beaver, a new movie with Mel Gibson and Jodie Foster.
http://thephoenix.com/boston/movies/120087-beaver/
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:33 pm
It happens
Jerry
June 24th, 2011
11:33 pm
Enter your comments hereI hate Chip impression of his old man.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2011
11:33 pm
Heyward bad route, still shoulda caught it, appeared to misjudge at end
Mitchell
June 24th, 2011
11:34 pm
Another great play by Jason in right field.
tmc
June 24th, 2011
11:34 pm
Venice- what i quoted was where i read the cut was 2 inches..
C’mon man. Skip asked where i got the information…
i understand staph can be trouble (see my initial comment). I know people have died from it and worst case scenario’s can be bad. But hey, i would bet my last dollar that Martin is getting the best medical procedure’s and care possible.
So why does it take a 27 year old professional athlete in good or great shape 2 or 3 times longer than what the typical recovery?
I just wish the Braves would be honest with it’s fans in situations with injuries to players. that’s all.
MFin04
June 24th, 2011
11:35 pm
Error Chipper.
jason heyward
June 24th, 2011
11:35 pm
it is hard to see at night i just didn’t pick it up you trying to play the outfield in the bigs–
Tomas
June 24th, 2011
11:35 pm
D-Lowe has bad luck, pitching a great ball game, and some slow ground balls has cost him a couple of runs
John Leonard
June 24th, 2011
11:36 pm
Bad defense,two plays in a row.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2011
11:36 pm
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:33 pm
we would all appreciate that Mitchell….seriously
nolee, seriously?
No, I mean seriously?
Seriously.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:36 pm
Good lord tmc, you are starting to aggivate people, you know? You have know Idea whther they are or aren’t being honest with you, and it really doesnt matter. There is no third man in the grassy null.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:36 pm
just wish the Braves would be honest with it’s fans in situations with injuries to players. that’s all. tmc
just what exactly is it that you think they are hiding? and why in God’s name would they lie about it? and you have just had some Drs and pre-med people tell you that it is not unusual.
Shooter McGavin
June 24th, 2011
11:36 pm
Heyward, he’s a 5-tool player…..uhhhhhh really? I would be okay if we saw one….
alex
June 24th, 2011
11:37 pm
nolee-sorry I thought I as being helpful,Brian thank you for your long winded reiteration of my general statement, you left off the reference on Marx…Either you did stay at the holiday Inn express or are an I.D. Fellow..Go do a consult!! Sheeeeesh….
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:37 pm
seriously, really
EWilliams
June 24th, 2011
11:37 pm
J. Schafer and the rest of the braves who chew, needs to visit with Tony Gwynn and how using the tobacco has impacted his health as well as the surgeries he has had to deal with. DOB mention this to the players and let Tony talk to the team and let them see how this has impacted his health as well as his face.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:38 pm
Shooter, he might have five tools……..
njbraves
June 24th, 2011
11:38 pm
Lowe sucks.
brian
June 24th, 2011
11:38 pm
tmc – he was not stitched up after the incision to drain the infection. They are waiting for it to heal inside-out and Prado cannot run until it is healed up. That is what is taking so long
MFin04
June 24th, 2011
11:38 pm
Derek Lowe just isn’t very good. He can’t seem to get out of jams.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2011
11:38 pm
What a joke.
TB bravesfan
June 24th, 2011
11:38 pm
mama’s don’t let your baby’s grow up to be braves
kirkinga
June 24th, 2011
11:39 pm
yuck!
Steve from OH
June 24th, 2011
11:39 pm
I just wish the Braves would be honest with it’s fans in situations with injuries to players. that’s all.
A) You’re still missing the point that Prado’s course is NOT atypical for someone getting a staph infection necessitating I&D
B) The Braves are under no obligation to release the health information of their players to the general public.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:39 pm
Get Lowe out of there….hes is starting to get on my nerves
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:39 pm
no problem alex. your input was just fine.I was getting a bit frustrated . mea culpa
CaptainMudderland
June 24th, 2011
11:39 pm
I just woke up….so it has turned out to be a lowe point of my day.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
11:39 pm
Geeze Derek….
MFin04
June 24th, 2011
11:39 pm
All these runs should be unearned because of Chippers error. Not even close to being a hit.
Mitchell
June 24th, 2011
11:40 pm
A jam that he did not create though.
A final prediction for the night: Alex Gonzalex hits a meaningless two run home run in the 9th.
Good night.
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
11:40 pm
Well, that oughta’ do it.
Way to play, Heycoeur.
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
11:40 pm
Typical Lowe….nickel and dimed to death.
You are the WEAKEST LINK…. good bye.
Doc Holliday
June 24th, 2011
11:40 pm
This game reminds me of the BC era.
ONE HITTER TOO LATE, FREDDIE.
njbraves
June 24th, 2011
11:40 pm
The$15 million, weak link, strikes again. I’m so tired of watching this washed up loser blow games for this team.
keepinitreal
June 24th, 2011
11:41 pm
My god, Lowe is awful. Minor or Teheran needs to take his spot so we can finally reach the prime time.
Shooter McGavin
June 24th, 2011
11:41 pm
@ Skip Caray….saying it and seeing it for more than a week is different.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2011
11:41 pm
and you have just had some Drs and pre-med people tell you that it is not unusual.
Tom Jones said that too
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:41 pm
Bah, Humbug!!
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 24th, 2011
11:41 pm
V. Jim you’re turning into Tomahawkin’…how sad…
Not me! I’ve always hated the no-offense games!
Doc H. At least no PBs tonite……
Yeah, ’cause there’s been such a freakish amount this year… :\
O.J.
June 24th, 2011
11:41 pm
Seriously???!!!! I stayed up for this? Why can’t the Braves put away the teams they are supposed to? Just pathetic.
groundfog
June 24th, 2011
11:42 pm
Heyward Chipper and Lowe can share equal blame for that inning
Braves Manager
June 24th, 2011
11:42 pm
Geez, I’m such an idiot. I left Lowe out there too long when it was obvious he didn’t have it tonight. Can we just call it a game right now so we can rest our players for tomorrow? No chance we’re gonna score at least six runs tonight. Heck, chances are we won’t get six hits.
- Fredi Gonzalez
Venice Jim
June 24th, 2011
11:42 pm
So why does it take a 27 year old professional athlete in good or great shape 2 or 3 times longer than what the typical recovery?
I just wish the Braves would be honest with it’s fans in situations with injuries to players. that’s all.
Apparently, you have no ability to understand everything that we have tried to tell you – I will try one more time – it is not possible to gauge how long it will take to heal – it has nothing to do with age or health – it is a disgusting injury that takes a long flipping time to heal, but there is no set time table. Sorry, but that is the deal – no one is trying to fool us, they JUST DON’T KNOW…
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:42 pm
I miss the 8-6 games
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
11:43 pm
Again, Lowe would be perfect in Boston where if he gave up 4 runs, would still pile up wins.
Unload him and some salary for a low prospect — how much longer we want a guy who wouldn’t see the mound in a possible postseason?
$60 million for one good month. Yeesh.
tmc
June 24th, 2011
11:43 pm
too bad skip- you have already aggravated me too.
Here’s the problem in these freakin blog’s:
you ask a question looking for some information. maybe 1 or 2 people respond with some decent information… but mostly you get 4 or 5 jaskarses responding with attacks and questions asking where you get information… then it’s followed up with other jackwad comments when you are trying to defend your post… then those same people name call and try and tell you what jerk you are, blah-blah-blah.
all of ya’ll can go F yourself.
O.J.
June 24th, 2011
11:43 pm
The pitcher drove in a run, seriously????
Jo-Bu
June 24th, 2011
11:43 pm
Go have a beer Derek Lowe — it’s on the house tonight. :/
EWilliams
June 24th, 2011
11:43 pm
D. Lowe can’t get a break! No team support and just Bad Luck!
njbraves
June 24th, 2011
11:44 pm
MFIn04….Not even close to being an error on Chipper. Maybin is lightning fast, he wouldn’t have gotten him even if he fielded it cleanly. Hit all the way.
Duke
June 24th, 2011
11:44 pm
DOB, I wonder how much interest teams would have in Lowe. Not saying it because he is having a bad game, but Teheran needs to be brought up and who would the odd man be? Gotta be Lowe right? There are many teams that need help at the back end of their rotation.
Braves Manager
June 24th, 2011
11:44 pm
I need to call Frank and see if we can go ahead and pull the trigger on the Bourn deal.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 24th, 2011
11:44 pm
noleee—
I know, right?
Well, the Padres just need one more to get the six…the Braves cann start working on the 8 right now.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:44 pm
don’t take it so personal tmc, we are losing and everybody is crotchety.
GT Alum
June 24th, 2011
11:45 pm
The one thing I appreciate about Lowe. He’s saying the same thing now that he’s not getting run support that he was the past couple years when he was getting tons of support – that his job is to won games. Some guys would’ve taken credit for all the wins, then turned around and blamed the offense for the losses. Glad to see he’s not that kind of player.
CaptainMudderland
June 24th, 2011
11:45 pm
5-0……New mustang rund like a scalded dog….SD=a big hit
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:45 pm
Sriously, remember when we used to complain about the fact that Cox would pull the starter so early, so I am wondering why he isnt pulled earlier…
NO MORE PARRISH
June 24th, 2011
11:46 pm
We really need two things…
1. Fire Parrish
2. Make a McGriff type trade so we have a real cleanup hitter
I understand (but did not agree) with Braves not firing TP last season. But Parrish? Cmon! This guy is NOT working out and a team that really wants to win would pull the plug. Wren I know you read this blog. Make it happen!
Jerry
June 24th, 2011
11:46 pm
Well, what can you say? This game, in all seriousness, is going the way it should actually. We can’t hit and for once we are facing a pitcher that has been pitching well. Lowe just sucks and even if he just gave up 1 run, I figured it would be enough.
David O'Brien
June 24th, 2011
11:46 pm
Lowe: 5-2/3 innings, 5 R (all earned), 8 H, 2 BB, 3 K.
nolee
June 24th, 2011
11:46 pm
except that some complained that he left them in too long all the time. Folks see what they are looking for…
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:46 pm
Lol tmc, geez…..
Doc Holliday
June 24th, 2011
11:46 pm
O.J.
June 24th, 2011
11:41 pm
Seriously???!!!! I stayed up for this? Why can’t the Braves put away the teams they are supposed to? Just pathetic.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Are you really making this question?
We are the BRAVES…………..theres your answer.
Get used to it.
monty
June 24th, 2011
11:47 pm
Gotta know when to get Lowe, Freddie will learn I hope. Guy sinks faster tha the Titanic. Never seen a pitcher yell out @$@$# when his pitching coach makes a visit, he was toast at that point, such a fragile individual.
tony austin
June 24th, 2011
11:47 pm
Give Lowe a little credit at least. If he’d just given up one run the Braves would probably still have lost.
Braves Manager
June 24th, 2011
11:47 pm
Minor can do a better job than Lowe. I need to contact the Yankees and see what their interest level is on Derek.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:47 pm
nolee, I thought that he always left the releivers in for just one hitter too long all the time
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
11:47 pm
Looks to me like Lowe would’ve lost even if he’d given up one run.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:48 pm
But I guess that is the case with anyone when they get a hit and you say….hey why did you keep them in?
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
11:48 pm
And now that I think about it… LOWE IS GOING TO FINISH THE ROAD TRIP AS WELL!
Day game in Seattle. King Felix.
Brutal.
monty
June 24th, 2011
11:49 pm
BC pulling veteran pitchers too early?? You must be talking about another BC.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:49 pm
Whatever, Mcann is about to blast one an round the bags five times
Doc Holliday
June 24th, 2011
11:50 pm
Take a sit Mr. Jones
Its almost funny to watch this team year after year do this against padres, pirates, nats, Az, etc.
MFin04
June 24th, 2011
11:50 pm
“Not even close to being an error on Chipper. Maybin is lightning fast, he wouldn’t have gotten him even if he fielded it cleanly. Hit all the way.”
Umm, yeh gonna have to disagree. If Chipper wasn’t fumbling around with the ball the play would have been made by a good 5-10 feet.
Gotta love McCann trying to hit it out to deep left center here. Just a bad approach in this park.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 24th, 2011
11:50 pm
Cuss…thought he had a Double…
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2011
11:50 pm
What Did I Miss?
I’m Cooking for a Date? But She is not gonna keep me from blogging!!! I’m not goin out like that!
Braves Manager
June 24th, 2011
11:51 pm
Even though we’re down by five runs, I’m probably just going to throw Jonny Venters and Craig Kimbrel out there just for fun.
- Fredi
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 24th, 2011
11:51 pm
How is that foul?
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
11:52 pm
I’m so glad we have such great ownership and a GM with his head in the game. They’re sure to bring us plenty of broked1ck, past-their-prime bats to carry us to victory in the East. We’re just a Derrek Lee or a Rick Ankiel away from the pennant! Yeah!
monty
June 24th, 2011
11:52 pm
Jason has to make that catch in RF, another bad route taken, really dissapointed in his going back on balls.
brian
June 24th, 2011
11:52 pm
get fired up about a sweep and then a night like tonight. A nice reminder not to get too high after wins and hopefully not get too low after losses.
Hopefully the bats will arrive tomorrow for the road trip
MFin04
June 24th, 2011
11:52 pm
I approve of using Linebrink and Sherrill tonight. Heck even Proctor.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:52 pm
Tomahawkin, you tell her to ge in the kitchen!!! LOL
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 24th, 2011
11:53 pm
Sweet…
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:53 pm
Yeah Freeman!!
cricket
June 24th, 2011
11:53 pm
wish heyward had caught that ball
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 24th, 2011
11:53 pm
THAT wasn’t foul.
EWilliams
June 24th, 2011
11:53 pm
That’s the way to hit F2!
Kat
June 24th, 2011
11:53 pm
Sweet. Thanks Freddie.
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
11:53 pm
Way to hit, rookie!
MFin04
June 24th, 2011
11:53 pm
We still aren’t scoring 3 more runs. Use some bad relievers tonight.
Braves Manager
June 24th, 2011
11:53 pm
Oh, I’m not gonna fire Parrish or bench Uggla. They are my home boys.
- Fredi
Doc Holliday
June 24th, 2011
11:54 pm
And here comes Uggla…………yeah………………..LOL
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 24th, 2011
11:54 pm
It always goes back to Rizzo with him…
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
11:54 pm
Frederick of Hollywood!
Jay Dubu
June 24th, 2011
11:54 pm
The young bucks having to bring the offense tonight.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:54 pm
Does anyone else her think that Freeman might end up being better than heyward?
stevie zero
June 24th, 2011
11:54 pm
chipper is a first ballot hall of famer. and im proud he is a career brave. still plays great d. hes the worst 3-hole hitter in the game. and how the f is uggla still middle of the order? freddi wake up and fix this sh&& please before i lose my f&^#ing mind
TB bravesfan
June 24th, 2011
11:54 pm
come on uggla stop this rally
Doc Holliday
June 24th, 2011
11:55 pm
LOL
The unpredictable.
MFin04
June 24th, 2011
11:55 pm
“wish heyward had caught that ball”
Wish Chipper would have fielded the ball like a decent third baseman.
njbraves
June 24th, 2011
11:55 pm
Uggla really is a disgrace.
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
11:55 pm
How many times has Uggla had an 0-2 count this year?
monty
June 24th, 2011
11:55 pm
We don’t want sweeps, just win series. Learned that from BC.
groundfog
June 24th, 2011
11:55 pm
Uggla aint going to get better folks. He refuses to change his approach. I doin’t know if I can watch another half season of watching him k twice a game
alex
June 24th, 2011
11:55 pm
tmc, you’re quite right , I’m about burned out on this. Don’t take it so seriously!! Have some fun. Just remember this while mrsa is getting alot of press, these type of very aggresive infections are still uncommon, even though they are much more usual in the community over the last few years. Unfortunately Prado is having a rough time of it. Every patient is different and unique, making all of us(or most of us) more fun to deal with!! Medicine CANNOT tell you how an individual will respond to therapy, medicine will give you percentages which is helpful, but not definitive. We are all a study of 1. Think fat tails and black swans!!
Uggla-terrible strike out-new mendoza line, we’ll call it the ugly line:.180
O.J.
June 24th, 2011
11:56 pm
Hey look another k by uggla, go figure
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:56 pm
Uggla clearly needs to be benched or sent down for some work and its getting harder and harder to watch…
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 24th, 2011
11:56 pm
Darn it…
Well, guess I’m gonna head up stairs—time for some of that “McFann has gone upstairs” magic!! Just the thought of it caused those two runs, right?
Night, all!
Powder Blue
June 24th, 2011
11:56 pm
Skip Caray,
Yep. Heyward’s a couple of years away from being a Royal…I hope.
CaptainMudderland
June 24th, 2011
11:56 pm
Ugglanista swang like he was dressed to kill {ball].
DAM
June 24th, 2011
11:56 pm
I know there is about 0% chance that we will do this, and I know this has been discussed and shot down on here multiple times, but if Uggla is still hitting like this when Prado comes back, I think we have to send Uggla down to the minors until he sorts this thing out. Watching him at the plate has become downright painful.
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2011
11:56 pm
933 strikeouts until the latest Frank Wren nightmare expires.
monty
June 24th, 2011
11:56 pm
Wish Chipper would have fielded the ball like a decent third baseman.
Doubt he would of got MAybin, guy can fly.
Nick Saban
June 24th, 2011
11:57 pm
If Dan Uggla played football for my team relative to his performance in baseball, I would have murdered him already. Aaiiigght.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:57 pm
Uggla tries to do the crime dog swing but he not big enough
groundfog
June 24th, 2011
11:57 pm
I’m seriously going to cut back my Braves games or at least go to radio. Getting too painful to watch Uggla hit.
Skip Caray
June 24th, 2011
11:58 pm
I agree DAM!!!!!!!!
njbraves
June 24th, 2011
11:58 pm
MFin04…Are you really this delusional. Chipper had no play, even if he had fielded it cleanly. Brooks Robinson wasn’t throwing Maybin out on that one. Let it go.
groundfog
June 24th, 2011
11:58 pm
Heyward that doesn’t make up for the two out blunder last inning ..sorry
Kat
June 24th, 2011
11:59 pm
Jason making up for that missed catch last inning. Great snag.
Nate from State
June 24th, 2011
11:59 pm
Dear Dan,
You are trying to pull the ball when it is a foot outside. Please stop. Thanks.
Concerned Fan
monty
June 24th, 2011
11:59 pm
I wonder if Uggla drinks alot of caffeine?
EWilliams
June 24th, 2011
11:59 pm
Great catch J Hey!
TB bravesfan
June 24th, 2011
11:59 pm
Tomahawkin, keep on cooking you ain’t missed much.
TnBrian
June 25th, 2011
12:00 am
Uggla has to be the easiest guy for a pitcher to face these days. Just throw him something offspeed or on a corner or in the dirt or up and a away or up and in ….
Poon
June 25th, 2011
12:01 am
How much longer do we have to wait for Greg Norton to be signed…@$#%@
The A Bomb
June 25th, 2011
12:01 am
Electric Mike Adams coming in….
1-2-3
monty
June 25th, 2011
12:02 am
Wonder if Lowe will talk to reporters.
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:02 am
“How much longer do we have to wait for Greg Norton to be signed…”
Please don’t give him any ideas.
Poon
June 25th, 2011
12:02 am
trade uggloser for Hudson and Stauffer
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
12:03 am
Nice, give em a run right back.
monty
June 25th, 2011
12:03 am
“Just throw him something offspeed or on a corner or in the dirt or up and a away or up and in ”
THata an easy scouting report….
Reminds me of ANdrew JOnes when he was in one of his funks.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 25th, 2011
12:04 am
Just got home and it seems like Lowe had another rough night where the offense and defense failed to cooperate. This guy is a great stopper of winning streaks right now.
groundfog
June 25th, 2011
12:04 am
This Padre team is an offensive juggernaut. I knew we’d have to score some runs tonight to keep up.
Tomas
June 25th, 2011
12:04 am
Get it together Asencio, throw strikes down in the zone.
Lonnie Smith
June 25th, 2011
12:04 am
Here’s what the Braves need to do.
1.) Trade for Bourn.
2.) Move Prado back to 2B.
3.) Keep Dan Uggla on the bench. He’s only allowed to play when the Braves are getting blown out by 10 or more runs. Think of him as a position player version of Cristian Martinez.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 25th, 2011
12:05 am
There goes some cushion on that great bullpen ERA. haha,crap.
Doc Holliday
June 25th, 2011
12:05 am
At least the phillies…………
No, wait, phillies won.
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:05 am
Awful.
Lonnie Smith
June 25th, 2011
12:05 am
Asencio is garbage. Package him in a deal for Bourn.
monty
June 25th, 2011
12:05 am
On a lighter note, Frenchy homered tonight and threw out a runner. Leads the league in OA.
TnBrian
June 25th, 2011
12:05 am
Pads are having a blast with us.
Thanks Lowe. Thanks Heyward and Chipper’s defense and a special thanks to this bizzare and unbelievably stubborn and very average offense.
Oh, and thanks Ascenio …. or whatever the hell you call yourself now. You stink, AA pitcher.
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
12:06 am
Lonnie Smith-
1) Not gonna happen
2) Not gonna happen
3) Not gonna happen
Sorry
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:06 am
Geez, that might be the game…….I gonna go look for some brains to eat
Linebrink for Cy
June 25th, 2011
12:06 am
Pads definitely gained confidence by winning 2-3 from the Red Sox in Boston
Doc Holliday
June 25th, 2011
12:07 am
I can picture Victorino laughing while watching this game……..
Or maybe he is not watching, they all knew we were going to lose.
CaptainMudderland
June 25th, 2011
12:07 am
Padres suddenly are an offensive powerhouse–smacking the ##@@&&)(^^out of some belt and letter high gifts.
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
12:07 am
Asencio is garbage. Package him in a deal for Bourn.
So why would Houston trade one of their best players for him?
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:07 am
“On a lighter note, Frenchy homered tonight and threw out a runner.”
Francoeur > Heycoeur
Lonnie Smith
June 25th, 2011
12:07 am
“On a lighter note, Frenchy homered tonight and threw out a runner. Leads the league in OA.”
On a lighter note, I’m still happy he isn’t a part of this team.
alex
June 25th, 2011
12:08 am
Skip-YUM,NEED BARBAQUE SAUCE!
:turn out the lights…”
monty
June 25th, 2011
12:08 am
Brian McCann in 1 hour: “You just gotta tip your cap.”
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:08 am
On a lighter note, just found some brains
Tomas
June 25th, 2011
12:09 am
The blog curse strikes again. Bullpen is majors best…….Asencio gives up 3 in less than an inning
Lonnie Smith
June 25th, 2011
12:09 am
“So why would Houston trade one of their best players for him?”
He would just be a guy to throw in. Minor and Schafer would be the core of the package.
The A Bomb
June 25th, 2011
12:09 am
I’m sure Frank has a nice weekend of golf planned.
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:09 am
alex, no worry, have sticky fingers, habenero hot bbq sauce for this num num
EWilliams
June 25th, 2011
12:10 am
Send Asencio off to where KK is playing!
bravesfan
June 25th, 2011
12:10 am
Just think if Heyward catching the fly ball its more than likely a 2-2 game right now.
Doc Holliday
June 25th, 2011
12:10 am
Hey, Redsox lost to pirates ………..we can always lose to the pads.
TnBrian
June 25th, 2011
12:10 am
I need to take my Lowe and Ascenio to the end of the driveway. Stuff is already stinkin’.
Well – tomorrow is Saturday. Trash doesn’t run on weekends, but you see what I mean.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 25th, 2011
12:10 am
Why is it is so hard for the Braves to capture the first game of a series with the Padres? Happens frequently here where they lose the first one although they have a habit of winning the remaining two games of the series.
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:10 am
“I’m sure Frank has a nice weekend of golf planned.”
I’m convinced that the only way we’re going to get rid of him is if he dies in his sleep. Apparently the Braves don’t know how to fire anybody.
count_schemula
June 25th, 2011
12:10 am
Pick it up Braves.
CaptainMudderland
June 25th, 2011
12:11 am
Uggla finally produces a run
Tomas
June 25th, 2011
12:11 am
Why is it always in the dirt, I know it was tough play…..
Lonnie Smith
June 25th, 2011
12:11 am
Dan Uggla sucks at everything. Hitting, defense, hair/fashion, etc…
The A Bomb
June 25th, 2011
12:11 am
Lawnmowing time. In the dark.
NCbrave
June 25th, 2011
12:11 am
If your gonna throw a right hander in during the 7th down 3 runs then why not put Proctor in, why Ascenio?????Braves had a little momentum after the Freeman bomb but this is pitiful. Braves are toast.
monty
June 25th, 2011
12:11 am
Someone take Derrick’s keys away from him, he might feel the need for some speed.
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:11 am
They just suck against loser teams….it reminds me of the fraking hawks, which scares me
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
12:11 am
Is it really that hard to throw a line drive from 90 feet away??
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:11 am
Dan Uggla being Dan Uggla.
Lonnie Smith
June 25th, 2011
12:11 am
This guy pitching is an absolute loser.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 25th, 2011
12:12 am
This is starting to resemble the Jo-Jo Reyes relief outing at San Diego in April of 2010 when the Braves got clobbered like 17-2.
groundfog
June 25th, 2011
12:12 am
Ascensio really figured out those hitters tonight didn’t he?
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:12 am
What a shiating pitch!!
Poon
June 25th, 2011
12:12 am
At least the real bullpen gets some rest
Tomas
June 25th, 2011
12:12 am
Slugfest, who would have thought it. And Stauffer gets 11 runs of run support
CaptainMudderland
June 25th, 2011
12:12 am
PLease get this AAA pitcher out of here Fredi before I Guzman myself
N Nine
June 25th, 2011
12:13 am
Holy Crap. I can’t believe how god awful UGGLA really is. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic Mr. Uggla.
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:13 am
Good point, Poon!
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
12:13 am
He would just be a guy to throw in. Minor and Schafer would be the core of the package.
Because that offer is so much better…
Doc Holliday
June 25th, 2011
12:14 am
Asensio reminds me of……………oooopppps, I just farted.
Darkhorse
June 25th, 2011
12:14 am
Does our manager not know when to take the pitcher out. This guy has been throwing beach balls since he came in. Six runs later, he’s still in.
monty
June 25th, 2011
12:14 am
On a lighter note, Venters and Kimbrell get some rest.
groundfog
June 25th, 2011
12:14 am
The Braves have won 14 out of the last 19 in Sand diego..so as bad as this looks…
ccrider
June 25th, 2011
12:14 am
The Braves fans need to hope Derek Lowe is put on the DL soon. He has 1 win and 3 losses in his last 9 starts. He has pitched 52 innings given up 30 earned runs. Minor or Teheran would be an improvement. Lowe needs to be in the bullpen as the long man: ONLY
Poon
June 25th, 2011
12:14 am
Uggla makes me like McLouth…ouch
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
12:14 am
Apparently the Braves don’t know how to fire anybody.
Dude, really? The Braves have the 2nd best record in the NL and the 4th best in all of baseball.
Tomas
June 25th, 2011
12:14 am
Oh come on, get Martinez in
TnBrian
June 25th, 2011
12:15 am
We just gave SD more runs in one game than they’ve scored in a month.
Hey, the drinks are on us Padres! Braves are so unselfish.
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:15 am
well, perfect time to take him out……
MariettaDerek
June 25th, 2011
12:15 am
This is just terrible. Our offense is bad. I was convincing myself it was injuries and Uggla all this time, but now, only Prado is missing and we still can’t hit.
Also, Lowe will be lucky to get to 12 wins this year.
EWilliams
June 25th, 2011
12:15 am
Was the Conrad going to the mound?
monty
June 25th, 2011
12:15 am
“Six runs later, he’s still in.”
He’s taking one for the team at this point, a valuable service. LOL!
groundfog
June 25th, 2011
12:16 am
Many fans on this blog expect 162-0 and nothing less!
Yunel's Frosted Tips
June 25th, 2011
12:16 am
ERA’s a going up……
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:16 am
Dark Horse, I agree, he defenitly does not take pitchers out the way cox used to.
MariettaDerek
June 25th, 2011
12:16 am
Time the Braves to get rid of their dumb buzz-hawks or whatever their calling their UNLUCKY NOT DP TO C haircuts.
Count Chocula
June 25th, 2011
12:16 am
Maybe this shows Fredi, Wren and Co. why this BUM doesn’t belong in a Braves uniform..if we got rid of Mather, i believe we can send this kid packing somewhere far..
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:16 am
“Dude, really? The Braves have the 2nd best record in the NL and the 4th best in all of baseball.”
And they haven’t won a playoff series since 2001, making all of those numbers meaningless.
Tomas
June 25th, 2011
12:17 am
Trade Lowe……………….gift wrap him, i don’t care if the return is Chris Reitsma or Dan Kolb send them to the minors where they’re nowhere to be seen.
Poon
June 25th, 2011
12:17 am
i bet conrad has more allstar votes than uggla
MariettaDerek
June 25th, 2011
12:17 am
BUT…. Lowe will be okay in September!
dan uggla
June 25th, 2011
12:18 am
Why should i make adjustments who in the hell is joe simpson saying i need to make adjustments- i will continue to try to kill every pitch– pull every outside pitch– upper cut the ball– adjustments– meeting the ball taking good level swings– hitting it where they pitch it– that is for sissys and little leaguers– im a grown man making millions why should i make any adjustments it doesnt matter what im hitting as long as we win a championship- ill keep doing what im doing swinging for the fences on every pitch- im too good to amke any adjustments
Yunel's Frosted Tips
June 25th, 2011
12:18 am
Now Uggla gets the night off…………shoulda made him pitch the rest of this one for 60 million
Nate from State
June 25th, 2011
12:18 am
So let me get this straight, we wear out O’Flaherty, Venters, and Kimbrel so Asencio can hold down a bullpen spot and get put in games when we’re down by 3, and THEN get hammered because he hasn’t thrown in a while and he just may not be that good? Doesn’t make sense not to bring up Gearrin who was pitching quality innings and getting some outs.
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:18 am
These Brains are delicious
groundfog
June 25th, 2011
12:19 am
Oh well at least OVentbril got the night off.
monty
June 25th, 2011
12:19 am
In all seriousness the starter for the Padres is a very good pitcher, tonight was no fluke. Some nights you can just tell the BRaves hitters don’t have the stomach to grind away on a guy like him.
EWilliams
June 25th, 2011
12:19 am
Who is This Guy PITCHING? Excuse me, trying to PITCH!
Darkhorse
June 25th, 2011
12:19 am
And, there is no need to double switch when it’s 11-2. We ain’t goin extras.
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:20 am
I think Fredi knew it was over when he put Ascencio in the game. I knew it was over. Just throwing in the towel because he knew his offense was DOA tonight.
Darkhorse
June 25th, 2011
12:20 am
Enter your comments here
Doc Holliday
June 25th, 2011
12:20 am
Humiliation at its best.
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:20 am
Not sure why they wouldnt let me on the plane to SD to eat some SD brains…..real classy!!
MariettaDerek
June 25th, 2011
12:20 am
Sooooo NOT DOUBLE PITS TO CHESTY!
Fredi Gonzalez
June 25th, 2011
12:21 am
I just want to apologize to everyone. This loss is on me. For starters, I shouldn’t have let Dan Uggla join us on this road trip. Secondly, I’m completely clueless on how to determine whether or not a pitcher should be removed from the game. Finally, I just wasn’t in the mood to manage coming into tonight. I just feel like sitting on this bench next to my buddy Larry Parrish and admire the opposition’s performance.
Sorry guys, we’re gonna try again though. Hopefully we’ll earn a victory by hitting a bunch of solo homers.
- Fredi G.
Poon
June 25th, 2011
12:21 am
hire the Padres hitting coach…NOW!
TnBrian
June 25th, 2011
12:21 am
If there was going to be a postgame show they’d ask fans to vote for their MVP of the game after a big loss. There is no MVP. We lost. Freddie’s homerun. I guess.
EWilliams
June 25th, 2011
12:21 am
Both of those last two relievers for the braves need to be sent to Mississippi!
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:21 am
“In all seriousness the starter for the Padres is a very good pitcher,”
Admitted. Combine that with the fact that the offense for the Braves is very bad, and this is no surprise.
Albert Einstein
June 25th, 2011
12:21 am
Mathematically braves can still win this game.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 25th, 2011
12:21 am
Hey Dan Uggla:
Your lack of adjustments is pathetic. Maybe for tomorrow’s game the Braves will find a way to barricade your hotel room to prevent you from exiting and making your way to the park.
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:22 am
Two grandslams are about to happen……both by sid bream
Poon
June 25th, 2011
12:22 am
Good think Wren didn’t park his car outside of PETCO
tony austin
June 25th, 2011
12:23 am
If my research is correct, in the last 7 games including tonight’s game, the Braves (4-3 assuming they lose this game), have score 24 runs, 14 via the home run (58%).
Jim
June 25th, 2011
12:24 am
we need a trade CF and a second baseman. Get rid of this AAAA pitcher he his another Jo Reyes. Put Lowe in the bullpen he looked like he was drunk tonight. Another guy that cant hit gets his first homerunand its an unearned run thanks to Uggy.
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:24 am
Dude is this dude throwing a wiffle ball?
CaptainMudderland
June 25th, 2011
12:24 am
Went in to get something to eat and came back and thought I was watching women’s softball
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:25 am
I’d just put Prado at 2B when he returns and throw Hinske in LF. To hell with Uggla. Sit his ass.
groundfog
June 25th, 2011
12:25 am
I’ts pretty simple. We will find out soon wat kind of cohones Fredi has or if he an Uggla just best buddies. You sit him down and say change your stance/approach or your benched..period
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:26 am
Conrad that was a ball
Blogger With A Fake Real Name
June 25th, 2011
12:26 am
Look what I’m doing! I’m HILARIOUS and ORIGINAL!
Doc Holliday
June 25th, 2011
12:26 am
I can still hear Cox saying in post game interviews:
We hit the ball hard, but nothing to show for. Guys played hard as always, but Padres just played better. Asencio made some pretty good pitches, missed a few by 1/10 of an inch and the padres took advantage. I can feel Uggly is coming out of it (and just when you think jump in joy thinking he will be getting out of the lineup or roster, he goes), out of his slump that is (with a smile on his face.
Fredi Gonzalez
June 25th, 2011
12:27 am
Brooks Conrad (who I thought was the worst player on a big league roster coming into the season) is batting 60 points better than Dan Uggla.
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:28 am
Im sorry about the whole uggla thing….chipper need to call him out instead of Heyward….its due….this dude either needs to get some work in the minors or take a pay cut
MariettaDerek
June 25th, 2011
12:28 am
Sadly, I think it is time to give Danny Ugs and extended ride on the pine as well. He could eat BBQ sunflower seeds like Matty Young.
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
12:28 am
So it’s Fredi’s fault the team hasn’t won a playoff series since 2001? Last I checked, this was his first year as the Braves manager and you do have to play well in the regular season to make the playoffs.
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:29 am
Uggla’s making me miss Joe Mather’s bat.
bnewspanic
June 25th, 2011
12:29 am
Cant wait for Lowe in long relief
monty
June 25th, 2011
12:29 am
THis raodtrip could get ugly in a hurry. Phils lost 2-3 to Seattle.
Fredi Gonzalez
June 25th, 2011
12:29 am
Well guys, I’m just standing in the dugout right now with my arms folded not having a clue how to manage a professional baseball team. I’m one lucky son of a gun.
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:29 am
Hey look at what I am doing…..trying to be funny….hey I try
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:29 am
“So it’s Fredi’s fault the team hasn’t won a playoff series since 2001? Last I checked, this was his first year as the Braves manager and you do have to play well in the regular season to make the playoffs.”
I never said anything about Fredi. What the hell are you talking about?
Walker For Uggla
June 25th, 2011
12:31 am
Hey Idiots(Only referencing people who fit the following categories), How many of you still think this is a “slump”, how many of you think based upon his “baseball card” that he will snap out of it, how many of you think he’s waiting for July when he “warms up”, how many of you think since Wren was an idiot that he must be run out there for rest of the year, how many of you still think this is an aberration, how many of you think that SOMETHING unspoken is not behind a huge part of this, how many of you think a “true” fan supports this clown no matter what,how many of you excuse this because he runs hard after actually putting the ball in play, how many of you think it’s NOT sad that a guy with 60million GUARANTEED may end up having the lowest average of any regular position player in MLB,how many of you think because he looks really, really sad that all this is excused, how many of you don’t think a 31 year old man making 10,000,000 this year can’t afford an adult haircut, how many of you don’t think it’s sad that the Pittsburgh 2B has twice as many RBI’s??
And how many of the rational among you finally realize this was one bad blanking deal with an extension that might come to be viewed as even surpassing Hampton as far as stupidity??
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:31 am
I’m sure Wren’s sleeping soundly right now.
monty
June 25th, 2011
12:31 am
Prado with Staph could hit better than DAnny Boy.
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:31 am
REally its not fresi’s fault, I think uggla might be a Jason Bay
Poon
June 25th, 2011
12:31 am
Mercy?
bnewspanic
June 25th, 2011
12:32 am
will fredi have the balls to replace Uggla with Prado?
Chip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:32 am
Hey dad, why does everyone who watches the Braves hate me? But they all seem to love you.
TnBrian
June 25th, 2011
12:32 am
Uggla get piled on – understand completely – but Chipper isn’t all that anymore, not even close, Heyward doesn’t exactly put excitement in you stepping to the plate right now, Nate is just nonexistant and AGon – well, he’s just the opposite of a good hitter to the extreme. YIKES he’s terrible!
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:33 am
Hey Walk for Uggla, PFFT, can you stop with the “how many of you” I having a seziure.
Dan Uggla
June 25th, 2011
12:34 am
And you guys are paying me 60M.
Cant wait for October to get here: Aruba, Jamaica, come on pretty mama.
Moe Berg
June 25th, 2011
12:34 am
Just listen to some Gianni Schicchi and call it a night. Not every game works out how one wants.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 25th, 2011
12:35 am
It is interesting that Davey Johnson has been hired as the Nationals manager after Riggleman’s dramatic exit. I feel like Johnson left the Orioles abruptly in a similar fashion back in the 90s.
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:36 am
I will tell you why, I have the balls of a 700 pound bull and I dont sound like sh*&T
Poon
June 25th, 2011
12:36 am
After reading these posts I traded Halladay for Uggla in my fantasy league….thanks guys!
groundfog
June 25th, 2011
12:36 am
They gave Johnson next year too..what a slap in the face to Riggleman..prob deserved it though
nolee
June 25th, 2011
12:36 am
thats six for Uggla already on top of the lack of range….
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
12:36 am
Powder Blue-
I will offer apologies regarding Fredi- I misread your original post. But Frank has only been the GM since October of 2007, so it is unfair to lay the last 10 years on him…
Pete Smith
June 25th, 2011
12:36 am
I bet if Dan Uggla gets rid of that idiotic hairdo he’ll perform better.
Kat
June 25th, 2011
12:37 am
B52s the greatest party band? This coming from the guys who called Ludacris an R&B super star.. thanks Chip and Joe .. or thanks to those who write their advertising scripts…always give me a good chuckle.. especially during a game like this when I have no idea why I’m up at 12:30am watching a game we’re getting blasted in.
rob from sc
June 25th, 2011
12:38 am
Juan Abreu has to be better than Asencio
N Nine
June 25th, 2011
12:38 am
All these months we’ve been saying WHEN UGGLA gets back on track, I’m starting to think IF UGGLA ever recovers would be more appropriate. He flat out stole from Liberty Media’s broke ass bank account. You suck UGGLA.
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:39 am
Hey nobody on this blog knows why they are watching this…but I do…I liek eating brains while watching baseball
TnBrian
June 25th, 2011
12:39 am
Fact is though, “How many” blogger, that Uggla is not even a half season into his $60 million contract.
Venice Jim
June 25th, 2011
12:39 am
It’s funny how a winning streak make one forget how many people posting here revel in the Braves’ losing a game – I’m glad you are all happy tonight…
Pete Smith
June 25th, 2011
12:39 am
When do the Braves retire Uggla’s number?
count_schemula
June 25th, 2011
12:40 am
somebody needs to gently tip a water cooler off a ledge…
GatorMike
June 25th, 2011
12:40 am
If there was ever a time this team needed to sign RICHIE SEXSON it is now!
Skip Caray
June 25th, 2011
12:40 am
Ok so, the lead singer of the b52’s lives in my neiberhood, drives a rolesroyce convertable with flames down the side…really look ridiculous if you ask me
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:43 am
“When do the Braves retire Uggla’s number?”
They haven’t even put up a statue of Dale Murphy yet. Their priorities right now are centered around acquiring Barnes & Noble. Might take a while before they get around to memorializing Uggla’s feats in Atlanta.
CaptainMudderland
June 25th, 2011
12:43 am
12:45 ET….11-2…and they’re cheering Kate Middleton
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:43 am
“Ok so, the lead singer of the b52’s lives in my neiberhood, drives a rolesroyce convertable with flames down the side…”
Fred Schneider?
Doc Holliday
June 25th, 2011
12:44 am
I wouldnt mind the see the braves losing this bad more often, have never lough this much while reading the blog.
nolee
June 25th, 2011
12:44 am
maybe we will get a break on the price of some baseball books
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:45 am
“I will offer apologies regarding Fredi- I misread your original post. But Frank has only been the GM since October of 2007, so it is unfair to lay the last 10 years on him…”
I’m not laying 10 years of failure on him. Just five. And the Lowe contract. And the Kawakami contract. And the Chipper contract. And the Uggla contract. And the half-ass trade deadline acquisitions (he shares fault with our half-ass ownership, Liberty Media, on this one). I think (and hope) that the Uggla deal will be what ends Wren’s time in Atlanta.
Venice Jim
June 25th, 2011
12:45 am
Loughing (sic) is good…
CaptainMudderland
June 25th, 2011
12:45 am
Stauffer cooks a new frozen dinner called BravesUgglahgoolash
Doc Holliday
June 25th, 2011
12:45 am
Why was Dan Uggla named the player of the game?
Tomahawk Mafia
June 25th, 2011
12:45 am
The Braves hitters reached base 5 times tonight. How does Parrish still have a job? This stuff is more the norm than the exception unfortunately.
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:45 am
Yay, it’s over.
TnBrian
June 25th, 2011
12:45 am
I’m gonna go take an Uggla and wipe a Lowe. Damn. Whatta a sh**ty night.
Venice Jim
June 25th, 2011
12:47 am
Powder Blue – I am sorry you are stuck being a Braves’ fan – too bad you do not have the courage to find a team you like to root for, instead of remaining invested in a bad deal you made with yourself…
Moe Berg
June 25th, 2011
12:47 am
“Fred Schneider?”
Fred Schneider of ‘Monster’ fame?
Dan Uggla
June 25th, 2011
12:47 am
I may not be hitting very much but at least I’m still better than loser bloggers using a fake real name and posting “from” that person thinking that it is both funny AND original!
Nobody Should Be This Ugly(Uggla)
June 25th, 2011
12:48 am
Walker–I’m no idiot. I just checked the stats and danny Out now has 50!!! hits in 286 AB’s. So what? Well, to be batting .250 after 500AB’s Danny FesteringBoil will have to get 75 hits in next 214 AB’s. So what? That’s a .351 batting average to hit .250 after 500AB’s. It looks a little better for .250 if he gets 600 AB’s because then he only needs to go 100 for his next 314 AB’s. That equates to a neat .311 average. Anyone think this piece of flotsam has a chance to hit .351 or .311 for ANY period of time extending beyond 10 games??
Jay Dubu
June 25th, 2011
12:48 am
The Padres have not scored double digit runs sunce their 2nd game of the season.
CaptainMudderland
June 25th, 2011
12:48 am
Award winning Chip Carey? Did he announce/annoint himself realistically?
who cares
June 25th, 2011
12:48 am
this team sucks whitey cant f hit bunch of crackers
MariettaDerek
June 25th, 2011
12:48 am
A hit would be nice. Just one… so we can all smile.
Doc Holliday
June 25th, 2011
12:49 am
Jay Dubu
June 25th, 2011
12:48 am
The Padres have not scored double digit runs sunce their 2nd game of the season.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
2010 or 2011?
I suppose Adrian was still around.
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:50 am
Walker–I’m no idiot. I just checked the stats and danny Out now has 50!!! hits in 286 AB’s. So what? Well, to be batting .250 after 500AB’s Danny FesteringBoil will have to get 75 hits in next 214 AB’s. So what? That’s a .351 batting average to hit .250 after 500AB’s. It looks a little better for .250 if he gets 600 AB’s because then he only needs to go 100 for his next 314 AB’s. That equates to a neat .311 average. Anyone think this piece of flotsam has a chance to hit .351 or .311 for ANY period of time extending beyond 10 games??
Pete Smith
June 25th, 2011
12:50 am
Dan Uggla would be a better hitting coach than Larry Parish.
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:50 am
I may not be hitting very much but at least I’m still better than loser bloggers using a fake real name and posting “from” that person thinking that it is both funny AND original
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:51 am
“Powder Blue – I am sorry you are stuck being a Braves’ fan – too bad you do not have the courage to find a team you like to root for, instead of remaining invested in a bad deal you made with yourself…”
VJ, I’m sorry I’m stuck being a fan of a team owned by a group that isn’t committed to winning. It hasn’t always been this way. I’m equally sorry I have to suffer your unsolicited snide commentary. Go enjoy your hippie lettuce, hug it out, and embrace that mediocrity!
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:51 am
Dan Uggla would be a better hitting coach than Larry Parish
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:52 am
Looks like we have a name-stealing blogger tonight. I did not post the 12:50 a.m. post under my name, DOB.
who cares
June 25th, 2011
12:53 am
ies stealz alls uze namez crackers
Pete Smith
June 25th, 2011
12:53 am
Chuck Knoblauch needs to teach Dan Uggla how to throw the ball.
who cares
June 25th, 2011
12:53 am
powder blue
WHY DONT YOU STFU
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:54 am
I’m guessing the name-stealer is the same rube/Marlins fan who’s been stalking this blog all season.
who cares
June 25th, 2011
12:54 am
Chuck Knoblauch needs to teach Dan Uggla how to throw the ball
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:55 am
DOB, someone needs to toss the blogger who’s posting under my name.
who dat
June 25th, 2011
12:56 am
put more afican american players on this team they win whitey sucks on this team star player bmac dp 1st inning typical fat a s s
Pete Smith
June 25th, 2011
12:56 am
Speaking of Chuck Knoblauch, dude is freakin’ humongous these days:
http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2008/02/02/amd_knoblauch_hill.jpg
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:57 am
mommy help me i think im gonna cry
Pete Smith
June 25th, 2011
12:58 am
I agree, this team needs more black guys. Michael Bourn, please!
Pete Smith
June 25th, 2011
12:59 am
If there was going to be a postgame show they’d ask fans to vote for their MVP of the game after a big loss. There is no MVP. We lost. Freddie’s homerun. I guess
Chipper
June 25th, 2011
1:00 am
Ok, I’ve had it! I’m shaving this stupid “Uggla” mohawk off and changing out of the white, stylish new cleets. They aint working and trying to be one of the “younguns” makes me look even more rediculous than one of my now famous one handed, roll over the ball swings.
Danny Mendoza Line
June 25th, 2011
1:00 am
Danny Ugly needs Kate Middleton to teach him how to hit and maybe get Camilla Parker Bowes to help him with his eye liner.Would probaly help with the lady Brave fans if he just didn’t look so damn silly.
Ernie Hudson
June 25th, 2011
1:00 am
Braves are garbage.
who dat
June 25th, 2011
1:01 am
a choc.city like atlanta and one african american,he got more hits than anyone on the team,if i was heyward,i ask to be traded.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
June 25th, 2011
1:01 am
Fire Roger Mcdowell. Fire Larry Parish. They are a joke. Put Fredi G on notice. Stop managing like Bobby Sux or your buns are on line! Time to fish or cut bait, Frank. Your losing it! Do you want a winner or same old s***?
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
1:02 am
I’m out. DOB, almost all of the posts under my name for about the last 10 minutes have been made by someone else.
Dan Uggla
June 25th, 2011
1:03 am
Danny Ugly needs Kate Middleton to teach him how to hit and maybe get Camilla Parker Bowes to help him with his eye liner.Would probaly help with the lady Brave fans if he just didn’t look so damn silly
if u think u can do better,get your white trash ass out there
Ernie Hudson
June 25th, 2011
1:05 am
Can’t really fire McDowell when his team has the best pitching in the league.
Chipper
June 25th, 2011
1:05 am
sorry boyz,these hooter girls out here in san diego are hot!!
nolee
June 25th, 2011
1:10 am
Schauffeurre dropped below .600 OPS
Danny Uggla
June 25th, 2011
1:11 am
There is some fool posting under my name. I know I stink and should rightfully return the money I’m being paid but it’s expensive to look this silly and also pay the trainer and nutritionist that makes me look so good in my uniform. Once again I apologize to all the Brave fans,Liberty, frank Wren the city of Atlanta, The state of Georgia and the Southeast United States. I’ll heat up next march.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
June 25th, 2011
1:11 am
Sorry Ernie, yes we can. If we are best why are we 5 (count ‘em) 5 games outta first) Plus I will admit, I just don’t like the arrogant SOB! Parrish has to go! does have a cool goatee though!
TnBrian
June 25th, 2011
1:12 am
At least Fredi is calm and smiley in the postgame interview. So soothing. :eyes rolling:
Chipper
June 25th, 2011
1:13 am
There is some fool posting under my name. I know I stink and should rightfully return the money I’m being paid but it’s expensive to look this silly and also pay the trainer and nutritionist that makes me look so good in my uniform. Once again I apologize to all the Brave fans,Liberty, frank Wren the city of Atlanta, The state of Georgia and the Southeast United States. I’ll heat up next march
who dat
June 25th, 2011
1:14 am
its too bad we cant get rid of all the whitey posters
who dat
June 25th, 2011
1:16 am
hey crackers…nats are 3 games behing you
tiger297
June 25th, 2011
1:16 am
wow nasty evening on the blog
Ernie Hudson
June 25th, 2011
1:17 am
Fredi “All Smiles” Gonzalez
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
1:17 am
Fredi G. on offense: “That’s the way we’ve been hitting most of the year. If you look at our stats over the course of the year, we’re not where we want to be offensively as a team,
Ebenezer Snerdberg
June 25th, 2011
1:18 am
And…could we send that big dumb bum, Lowe to Mississippi to be with Kamakazi? If we got to eat the salary at least put him where he can’t screw us any more at this level! Look at the tix pearl could sell—mebbe!
TnBrian
June 25th, 2011
1:19 am
Douchebags stealing names and others comments. Wow. A new low for even this blog.
I’m off
Ebenezer Snerdberg
June 25th, 2011
1:19 am
DOB, No kidding! They ain’t where my grandson’s little league team is!
dan uggla
June 25th, 2011
1:20 am
who in the world is joe simpson saying ineed to make adjustments i will continue to swing for the fences, try to pull the outside pitch, try to kill everything instead of meeting the ball, upper cut everything– the idea of going with the outside pitch, just meeting the ball, take good level swings– that is for little leaguers– and sissys im too good to make adjustments– doesnt matter what my average is even if i only hit 125 for the year so what as long as this team can play for a championship- why should i care what the average fan thinks–i stillget p[aid even if you dont show up for the game– me make adjustments you all have to be kidding im laughing all the way to the bank– you fools
Yunel's Frosted Tips
June 25th, 2011
1:20 am
Dang……saw where we lost Joe Mather……..where do we go from here?
Lou Vales
June 25th, 2011
1:25 am
It’s been me that has been stealing names and making other ones up, tonight.
I’ve used 36 different names tonight. That’s not including the ones I’ve stolen. I’m not too sick, am I?
Michael, The Abbreviation
June 25th, 2011
1:26 am
To the uggla haters : look up his june stats, go f yourselves you do bags, i would love to see you losers try and make the big leagues
Michael, The Abbreviation
June 25th, 2011
1:27 am
**d bags, that is ,, he just homered last game, lay off his nut sack
N8
June 25th, 2011
1:39 am
The headline reads:
“Braves ‘pen is best, now can it hold up?”
I guess the answer to that question is “YES” (provided Asencio doesn’t pitch anytime soon).
But in all seriousness, let’s not let the 11 runs allowed mask the fact that this team still can’t hit. 11 runs or 3 runs….. we were still losing tonight once the Padres scored their 3rd run.
But here’s something to think about.
When Hanson comes back is it time to either trade Derek Lowe (if anybody would actually take him off our hands), or simply move him to the bullpen and have a 15 million dollar setup man?
Because from my angle, I’d rather have both Beachy and Minor in the rotation over Lowe at this point. Don’t believe me? Check it out….
I’m not counting Minor’s first start of the year since there was almost a month and a half between his 1st start and his second start.
Since he was recalled after that first start (a few trips between the big club and AAA), he has made 6 starts.
29 IP, 12 ER (3.72 ERA) add in 24 K’s for good measure (though I realize Lowe isn’t a strikeout pitcher). If you take out the 5 ER he gave up against the Mets 2 starts ago, that ERA drops to 2.56 in the other 4 starts with 21 K in 24.2 IP. The Braves have gone 3-2 in the 5 starts since his 1st start on April 5th before getting sent back down.
Lowe on the other hand? In his last 5 starts dating back to May 28th?
26.1 IP, 16 ER (5.46 ERA), 13 K (again, I get he’s a sinkerballer).
And if you go back to May 1st (his last 10 starts)?
56.1 IP, 29 ER (4.63 ERA)
Now, in fairness to Lowe, the Braves are 7-3 in those 10 starts.
But like I said. I’m not so sure it’s not time to see what a rotation of Hudson, Hanson, JJJ, Minor and Beachy can do. Lowe’s 15 million dollars be damned.
Of course, reality states that this will NEVER happen. But a guy can dream, can’t he?
Either way, if Wren doesn’t fix this lineup, it really doesn’t matter if Campillo and JoJo Reyes are thrust back into our rotation.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
June 25th, 2011
1:45 am
N8, you are indeed wise. I though I was the only one to realize, Lowe stinks!
ISH
June 25th, 2011
1:46 am
Well said N8…
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
1:46 am
Link to postgame QUOTAGE
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2011/06/25/braves-quotes-after-fridays-11-2-loss-to-padres/
The A Bomb
June 25th, 2011
1:46 am
Announcing… the latest in great literary works…. THE FRANK WREN TRILOGY!
BOOK #1 — THE YEAR OF HELL….The story of veteran journeyman Greg Norton, who at age 37 is legally adopted by his manager and goes on to an 11 for 76 campaign….
BOOK #2 — 2 YEARS OF HELL….The story of famed Geisha owner Kenshin Kawakami, brought in as a goodwill gesture in the name of American baseball. After 8 wins and 22 losses over 2 seasons, Kenshin goes to Mississippi where he presently serves as a busboy cleaning grits off pots but making $6.7 million!
BOOK #3 — 3 YEARS OF HELL…. The story of high school Spanish teacher and hair stylist Nate McLouth, who ends years of success in the rugged Iron City by coming to Atlanta and showing his true colors. Live the struggles as this formerly successful professional goes through the hell of traffic jams between Atlanta and Gwinnett, and how he has to spend most of his $5 million salary in 2010 on gasoline!
BOOK #4 — 4 YEARS OF HELL… The story of aspiring drag racer Derek Lowe, spurred onto the Atlanta scene not by his past success, but by the $60 million contract dangled at him by good ol’ Frank. Live through the drama as Derek tries to figure out ways to laugh openly at the Braves organzation without anyone finding out!
AND NOW… THE LATEST IN THE TRILOGY….
BOOK #5 — 5 YEARS OF HELL…. The story of bodybuilder Dan Uggla, who takes his secret desire to become a human helicopter from South Beach and dupes Frank into thinking he’s actually a baseball player! See all the conspiracy theories associated with his trade and new $62 million deal, including how Uggla is actually related to Bernie Madoff!
N8
June 25th, 2011
1:47 am
Actually, scratch that. I forgot to add in tonight’s numbers for Lowe.
In his last 11 starts, he’s gone:
62 IP, 34 ER (4.94 ERA) and the Braves are 7-4 in those 11 starts.
Wanna know the scariest part about the numbers I just typed?
In Kawakami’s final 11 starts last year (you know….. before being banished to mop up minor league reliever duty?), he did the following:
59 IP, 30 ER (4.57 ERA).
“Yikes” doesn’t begin to describe how disturbing that is.
Comments?
jason heyward
June 25th, 2011
1:48 am
im asking to be traded,the hell with this all white team
Woody Woodward
June 25th, 2011
1:49 am
““Yikes” doesn’t begin to describe how disturbing that is.”
Maybe the Braves arent scoring enough runs for Lowe either.
jason heyward
June 25th, 2011
1:50 am
hey its not lowes fault,me and chipper got on,we are brothers and that fat ass b mac hit into a dplay ,wish ross was starting,maybe he will get hurt.
N8
June 25th, 2011
1:51 am
Here are the only 3 differences that I can find in Lowe’s last 11 starts and KK’s final 11 starts with the big club.
1) Braves are 7-4 in Lowe’s 11 starts. They were 5-6 in KK’s.
2) Lowe is making 15 million and KK was making around 7 million.
3) Lowe actually has a track record of being successful and should be given SOME slack due to how well he pitched from September through the playoffs last year.
Other than that…..
derrick lowe
June 25th, 2011
1:52 am
if u score some dam runs morons maybe i pitch better,do i care?hell now now excuse me while i hiccup have another drink
YIKES!!
June 25th, 2011
1:52 am
This blog is full of craZy maroons.
derrick lowe
June 25th, 2011
1:53 am
N8
U get your white trash out there and pitch if u think its so ez otherwise STFU
uga-brave
June 25th, 2011
1:54 am
dont hit dingers and we dont score.
just end the debate between schafer and nate. they both aint very good.
pitchout and our catcher tosses it into rightfield.
uga-brave
June 25th, 2011
1:57 am
lowe looks into the dugout and he sees a zombie. fredo barely has a pulse.
this team refuses to go deep into the count.
this team continues to win despite fredo.
N8
June 25th, 2011
1:57 am
Sorry yall for being such a complete moron.Excuse me now my sister is calling,she is sooooo hot!!!Hey dont knock it till you try it!!!What else is there to do in atlanta?
Yunel's Frosted Tips
June 25th, 2011
1:57 am
I know it’s time to go to bed when I’m the sane one on here…….the mental ward got to the keyboards again it would appear.
ISH
June 25th, 2011
1:57 am
I can’t even begin to discuss the pitching problems N8… I think it’s time to re-introduce steroids and methamphetamines to the game of baseball. I don’t know how much longer I can continue to watch the abysmal offense not JUST from the Braves but all over baseball. We (swear to God Ty Cobb is rolling over in his grave) just signed a guy to a $62mil contract and he’s hitting about .175 and I’m about to lose my mind!!! I can’t believe this crap!!
Yunel's Frosted Tips
June 25th, 2011
1:58 am
Nate ain’t squared up a ball since he’s been back
Lou Vales
June 25th, 2011
1:59 am
Tom O’Hawke
If Steve Phillps can find a job after doing what he did to get fired from ESPN, then Riggleman should have no problems at all. — Frank from KS (now living in CO) [from last night]
I never said that Riggleman wouldn’t be able to find work. I said that he MAY have burned his managerial bridges. There are only 30 MLB manager’s jobs on the planet. I’m not so sure that any GM will consider him in the future.
Riggleman doesn’t have a very good managerial record, for one thing. After walking away from a signed contract before the All-Star break, especially with the club doing so well, supposedly because his 2012 option has been picked up yet,
MAY prove to shut the door on any future managerial opportunities.
We can only comment on what is being reported. Maybe there’s more to the story that hasn’t come out yet. There usually is.
As far as work goes, I’m sure Riggleman will have no problem there. As a matter of fact, I’ve heard there’s a sopapillaporium that may be opening, soon. Word on the Blog is that they may interview Riggleman for a job.
Ernie Hudson
June 25th, 2011
1:59 am
We should have moved Lowe this off-season while he still had value. After these past couple of starts, how much is Lowe worth to a contender in need of pitching? Especially with that ridiculous salary.
And something’s got to change with the Braves offense. Career-wise, these guys are mostly productive hitters. Not this year though. Do you think the Fredi and Frank have even discussed the possibility of dismissing Parrish?
BFChris26
June 25th, 2011
1:59 am
R.I.P – Michael Chambers
Today is his 35th B-Day. He’ll be truly missed.
BOINK!!
June 25th, 2011
2:00 am
how can you square up a round ball on a round bat? Buncha craZies.
N8
June 25th, 2011
2:01 am
1:57 and 1:59 weren’t posted by me. That’s it I’m out. Anything after this post isn’t me. The imposter can go F… himself.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
2:01 am
Oops, that was me @ 1:59, Frank from Kansas. TRB was busting Lou Vales buns and I forgot to change the damn thing.
uga-brave
June 25th, 2011
2:01 am
bitch all you want too. if uggla and heyward dont hit for power we are like a dog chasing its tail.
Yunel's Frosted Tips
June 25th, 2011
2:01 am
the empty suit is Parrish…………Braves need to make him the fall guy
Yunel's Frosted Tips
June 25th, 2011
2:03 am
Yall gettin these damn pop up ads on the blog now?
BOINK!!
June 25th, 2011
2:03 am
BOINK! BOINK!! BOINK!!!
BOINK!!
June 25th, 2011
2:05 am
TILT!!!!
TILT!!
June 25th, 2011
2:06 am
BOINK!!!!
uga-brave
June 25th, 2011
2:06 am
this team needs a little bowa or bobby V. i dislike both of them but this team has too much talent to continue to watch this approach every night.
lowe has checked out. the guy at the end of the bench is almost useless.
PEEP! PEEP!!
June 25th, 2011
2:07 am
Some craZy peeps around here
ISH
June 25th, 2011
2:07 am
1:46 & 1:57 posts were mine… I’m out too, imposter can suck my big ‘ol white c%ck…
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
2:07 am
BFChris26
How was the service for your brother?
Ernie Hudson
June 25th, 2011
2:08 am
Braves need to call Marcus Giles and see if he wants to play 2B.
BFChris26
June 25th, 2011
2:08 am
who cares
Not that I would normally bite, but that’s my bro who passed away, his 35th b-day is today.
craZy PeeP
June 25th, 2011
2:09 am
why in the world would you want one of two nasty maroons both of who have proven themselves incapable of winning regularly?
Yunel's Frosted Tips
June 25th, 2011
2:09 am
I will return when things are sane………Goodnight real posters….idiots abound 2nite
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
2:10 am
Final version of GAME STORY with QUOTES
http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-braves/padres-pound-braves-11-987403.html
BFChris26
June 25th, 2011
2:10 am
Tom O’Hawke
Services isn’t until next Friday (wake) and Saturday (funeral), It’s going to be a HUGE turn out. Fire trucks and firefighters, friends and family. He was loved by many.
craZy PeeP
June 25th, 2011
2:11 am
buncha ninny-compoops
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
2:13 am
BFChris26
I’m sorry, buddy. I think I read, “Friday”, and thought it was today. I was reading faster than I can comprehend. (as usual)
nolee
June 25th, 2011
2:14 am
sorry for the idiot Chris. pay him no heed.
BFChris26
June 25th, 2011
2:14 am
Two words come to mind about the folks coming out the wood works tonight and there are 6 letters….
G R O W U P
BFChris26
June 25th, 2011
2:17 am
Tom O’Hawke
No problem.
nolee
That’s fine, I’m used to insensitive people doing things for shock value. As Eric Bischoff would say Controversy Creates Cash, except insensitivity like this creates the ignore signal.
tiger297
June 25th, 2011
2:17 am
nolie shows up in time for me to go to bed…
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
2:18 am
I believe that’s all ONE person, Chris.
He would’ve been 35 today, Chris? I never asked how old he was. Man, that’s young. It’s only a little over a year older than I am.
BFChris26
June 25th, 2011
2:19 am
Tom O’Hawke
Wouldn’t doubt it but meh lol.
Yeah, he died pretty young. I am 8 years younger than he is and I’m the baby.
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
2:22 am
The idiot’s gone now, banned. Had posted under several names. All posts removed, his IP now on the blocked list.
nolee
June 25th, 2011
2:22 am
didn’t mean to chase you off tiger. TTFN then
BFChris26
June 25th, 2011
2:24 am
My brother was a great guy, Loved nascar, braves baseball, fsu college football and loved watching lets make a deal. Church going guy and an all around humanitarian.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
2:24 am
Thanks, DOB. My young friend, TRB, said he’s been doing that quite a bit, lately.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
2:31 am
I just heard the ol’ kitchen timer go off. Time to eat.
I’ll talk to you guys later. Bon soir.
BFChris26
June 25th, 2011
2:32 am
Later Tom.
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
2:33 am
DOB,
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
2:34 am
who dat –
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
2:37 am
David O’Brien
June 25th, 2011
2:22 am
The idiot’s gone now, banned. Had posted under several names. All posts removed, his IP now on the blocked list.
uga-brave
June 25th, 2011
2:38 am
DOB, i love schultz. his count thing is awesome. love mark bradley.
you guys got it right, keeping those two.
but giving fredo a A- is a reach.
our pitching is way too good. sweep the fish and score six runs. sweep the jays and almost all the runs game via the the dinger.
managers dont sore runs. coaches dont score runs. but if you are offensively challenged you try to go deep into the count. this team refuses the bases on balls.
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
2:40 am
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
2:42 am
Gonzo – C-
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
2:44 am
I bet you that idiot is a phillies fan !
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
2:50 am
Wow! Idiocy abound on the ol blog, and in the Atlanta dugout! What pray tell was the esteemed Manager of the Braves dooing sitting on his ass whilst his pitcher was proceeding to obliterate any chance of a win????
Somebody, anybody in that damn dugout wake up and start b.it.ch slapping some inept ball players,staring with Uggla, and ending with that silly-assed boob Fredi Gonzalez!
Veer
June 25th, 2011
2:55 am
Lowe is a piece of garbage in our rotation. We are stuck with this loser.
Many of you were aganist my idea for trading this retard while he had some value but now with his pathetic performance no one will want this rubbish. Now we can’t make spot for Teheran or Minor and we are also stuck with his 15mil contract.
Who here still thinks that Lowe will help us in the playoffs? This guy is nothing but a mop up man in his career. Piece of worthless cow waste he is, Because of him we ARE NOW 5 OUT OF THE DIVISION. There goes our hopes for division title. Derek Lowe is worthless.
Just release the guy or send him to AA so he can join Kawakami.
Trey
June 25th, 2011
2:56 am
who dat still has a racist comment at 1:16.
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
2:57 am
Want to see this team take off? Fire Parrish, Gonzalez, and Snitker, move T.P to the manager spot, and hire Wade Boggs as a hitting coach!, bring in fernando Vina for 1b /inf coach!
Trey
June 25th, 2011
2:57 am
and 1:14.
HUH?
June 25th, 2011
3:03 am
Is Joe Brave yet another version of Lou Vales?
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:08 am
Fire sale!
Trade request plz!
Lowe to Stl for any prospect!
McCann to Boston for Bard, Bucholz, and Anderson
Minor and Ross to SF for J.Sanchez
move Freddie F to LF, pu Prado at 2b, Lars Anderson at 1B
and just bring in some scrub to catch!
Send Hudson to the Yanks for I Nova,J.Montero and Brandon Laird
utilize the farm to bring in NAHHHHHH scartch that!
Just relax maybe Cincinnati will flinch and trade brandon phillips to Atl for Uggla and Lowe…
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
3:08 am
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:00 am
Facts about this team,
1.Chipper is washed up
2.Uggla is a retard
3.Heyward, Hanson, schafer, and McLouth are overrated!
4.Yunel should never have been traded
5.Best for last Frank Wren graduated magna cum dummy as a GM!
At first, I would disagree with you on number 4. But I’m being to think that on Heyward.
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:09 am
nope HUH? I sure as hell am not!
I am the real JoeBrave
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
3:09 am
beginning,,,:oops:
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:10 am
Right before our very eyes the Atlanta orioles err Baltimore braves..errr the Braves under frank Wren are becoming a door mat!
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
3:14 am
How long is it going to take Wren to see this offense is bad and it’s not going to turn around !
It is almost July and it’s not better ! 
If they were good, we would not be talking about the hitting in the last days of june !!! 
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
3:16 am
Last year, Bobby Cox did something he never does. He had 2 close door meetings. I have yet to read about one this year !
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
3:18 am
JoeBrave – I agree ! They are full of themselves and someone needs to say or do something !
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
3:20 am
and my grade for Gonzales is a D.
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:22 am
And last but not least Gonzalez Fredi that is=Ginormous BUST!
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
3:23 am
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:20 am
Wren has made one good deal, just one, Jurrjens! that’s it!
kwakami=bust
Lowe=bust
Mclouth=bust
Uggla=bust
gonzalez=wash
Glaus=bust
Lee=bust
Ankiel=bust
Fa.rtsworth=bust
Keeping Francouer=bust
francouer for Church=bust
Linebrink=bust
Sherrill=bust
bust bust bust.
Someone needs to take his Topps collection and shove them up his ass! that is no way to run a team!
Those picks deserves a flat out F !
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:24 am
Extension for Chipper=BUST
Extension for Uggla=BUST
moving Prado from 2b even bigger BUST
Wren is ruining this team
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:26 am
If I were in the hotseat, When Hanson came back I would give him 2 starts hope they were quality and trade his ass to L.A. with Schafer, and Gearrin for Matt Kemp!
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:26 am
Beachy is twice the pitcher Hanson will never be!
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
3:27 am
Our pitchers except Lowe, Is just as good as the Phillies. Our bullpen is just as good as the Phillies. Our hitters are just as good as the Phillies. But the Phillies always find a way to win. And that’s the difference in these 2 teams !
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
3:30 am
If we trade Handson, we will be stuck with Lowe ! Our rotation would be weak !
Dumbfound
June 25th, 2011
3:30 am
Hanson.
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:31 am
I keep reading about Hunter Pence, well let me ask you, look at Mclouth, and Uggla two park adjusted hitters now look at where Pence plays, do we really want to go down that road a third time?
STRETCH
June 25th, 2011
3:31 am
Im still trying to figure why this organization is so fascinated with Derek Lowe???!
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:32 am
nahh just dump D.Ross, and Schafer on S.F for Johnathan Sanchez! we would be fine
Ward
June 25th, 2011
3:34 am
Hello every one! Sorry about the lose,but we still are in second place,and we still have the Wild Card. Had a bad feeling on Lowe. Thats why I didn’t come on before work today,but we have Jar tomorrow, and more of a chance to win.Don’t trade Hanson. Trade Lowe,Agone,Nate, and put in K.K. for a package. Some one would want that.
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:34 am
meant to say D.Ross, and Delgado!
Ward
June 25th, 2011
3:35 am
Maybe, include a player to be named later in the deal,and we could pick up a decent bat!
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:37 am
or maybe D.Ross Salcedo, and Vizczaino for Sanchez
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:41 am
Lowe and KK Ward? 21.7 million worth of rubbish! with all due respect, i mean that honestly. There is no one under God’s green earth that will take on those two turds.
NO ONE!
face it at seasons end McLouth 7.75 will be gone, KK 6.75 mill will be gone, Gonzalez 2.5 mill might be gone,other than that the Idiot in Charge has handcuffed the payroll of this team with Jones, Uggla, and Lowe!
Ward
June 25th, 2011
3:41 am
Even though it was a bad loss. We are still in good shape. Phillies put Ozwalt on the 15 day disabled list today,and he’s been bothered by back problems twice now. At least we don’t have him…….
Ward
June 25th, 2011
3:43 am
JoeBrave: Some one would ……..
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
3:44 am
Right before our very eyes the Atlanta orioles err Baltimore braves..errr the Braves under frank Wren are becoming a door mat! — JoeBrave
Seriously, you are completely out of control. Do you even, for a moment, glance at the standings? Do actual won-lost records, standings, mean anything at all to you? Anything?
Oh, and we had to remove about a dozen of your more repugnant posts. More of those and you’ll be gone. Again.
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:45 am
38 million dollars tied up in 3 useless players, couple that with the need for an additional starter, gaping hole in CF, arb for Jurrjens, and possibly the loss of your starting SS this team is in the toilet big time, with only 15 mil to spend.
a quality bat say Kemp(9) mill or some player of that ilk, leaves 6 mill for 3 spots!
hardly a position of leverage.
Ward
June 25th, 2011
3:48 am
JoeBrave: The players are not all useless.Just don’t fit well in Atlanta. Lowe,Agone, Nate, and K.K.A team in a big race would want them,or some one rebiulding would want some veterans……..
Ward
June 25th, 2011
3:49 am
Menat to say rebuilding.,
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:49 am
DOB, it’s early, yes I look at the standings, but I also watch every game and what I see is pitching holding this team up right now, but as they wear down, I will say this team is a 4th place club. even if they finish in 2nd there will be no wild card, no playoffs, and moving forward no better! I am not biting on this club this year, just like being in 1st last year and dropping the ball, it is what it is, Heyward, Hanson, Schafer? I gotta ask are you kidding me? go ahead pin your dreams of playoffs on these overrated over-hyped kids if you want. I see it differently.
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:51 am
Standings on June 24? no! standings on OCT 1 yes by all means.
uga-brave
June 25th, 2011
3:52 am
DOB, wish i could remember all the great bands in the late 80′ we saw.
smiths, replacements, church, smithereens, coolies, hodoo guroos.
please enlighten joe brave.
Ward
June 25th, 2011
3:55 am
Man, what would our team be like if we gave up on every one? Patience , I have 28 years as being a Braves Fan!
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
3:58 am
Ward,,any team cannot succeed by developing one slugger every 15 years. Simply cannot happen.
Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:01 am
Only time can tell my friend,and right now we still have the Wild Card,and that makes me happy……
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
4:03 am
I will quizz you another, when was the last time other tha Adam Wainwright the Braves developed a bona fide ace? Hint see Tom Glavine,John Smoltz era! no Aces, and no sluggers other than Andruw, and Chipper.
poor ingresients for success there, either Bobby Cox was pure genius, or one lucky SOB!
Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:04 am
Gregg Maddux was the Ace!
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
4:06 am
Ward, I said developed, not acquired, Maddux was an ace before he got to Atlanta!
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
4:09 am
Sure Doggie won a lot of games but I would say Smoltz was the Ace, no one could do what he did! want him to start okay 7 innings of dominate ball, need him to close okay 50 saves! I would say Smoltz was more of the ace.
Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:10 am
Fred Mcgriff,was a great hitter. Justice was good.Mac is pretty good.Uggla is good. He will only get better.Murphy was good hitter, Bob Horner was a good hitter.J. Lopez could hit. Our team was based on defense, and solid pitching too.
Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:12 am
Maddux won more games…….
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
4:12 am
not since 98-99 have the braves developed a true power hitter, 21 hr from McCann does nt qualify, I am talking 35+ hr.
not since 88-90 with the lone exception of Wainwright have the Braves developed a true ACE!
Scouting, and development have taken quite a nosedive since Bobby Cox stepped away from the GM post!
Schuerholz only reaped what Cox planted!, and Wren well he is still hunting a clue!
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
4:16 am
Uggla? we’ll see, some think he will get better, I think he was park adjusted just like Nelson Cruz, Hunter Pence, Nate mcLouth, put them in a pitchers park and CLUNK! leave the small park hitters to the small park teams.
By the way Justice, Lopez, Murphy, Horner were all pre 1998
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
4:17 am
mcGriff was a true sluuger with Toronta before he was traded to S.D. prior to being traded here.
JoeBrave
June 25th, 2011
4:17 am
Toronto
Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:19 am
Heyward, could be that guy he has potential. Like I said, “we are built on pitching”. Thats how the Braves have been built on over the last decade.” It takes a team to win, not just one ace or one power hitter……”
Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:21 am
Totonto, has all those power hitters, and look at what place they are in. It takes a team to win…………………
Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:27 am
I’ll have to think about the hitters the Braves have had too! I’ve been a Braves Fan for 28 years, and a lot of players are racing through my mind too…..
Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:36 am
Let me ponder about that. We have had good hitters,but good solid power hitters. I don’t recall the Braves having one after 98′
Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:42 am
We have had good hitters like A.Galleraga the cat! Brett Boone, Ryan Klesko.JoeBrave: You got me on that one….I think you could be right?
Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:46 am
Well, it’s all been good, and JoeBrave be cool my friend! Talk tomorrow, and peace…….
HUH?
June 25th, 2011
5:25 am
What a pair of morons. The second best record in the NL are doormats. You two, if there are actually two of you and you are not Lou Vales which I’m not sure that I buy, are about as foolish a pair of old has beens as I’ve seen here.Mental midgetry taken to the ultimate extreme
HUH?
June 25th, 2011
5:28 am
Dumbfound and Joe Brave.
HUH?
June 25th, 2011
5:31 am
The guy is back within minutes of being ousted.
Mixxo
June 25th, 2011
6:37 am
Freakin’ pathetic last night. Not surprised though…..
Facing a sub .500 team
Game after a day off (can’t play)
Why is Heyward on this ballclub?
ExBraves Fan
June 25th, 2011
7:44 am
Thank God that football season is near. This crummy bunch of nothings are not worth even turning the TV on for. They get beat by the sorriest of teams and just fall to pieces. Stupid Ugly hitting .056 with a million strikeouts. Say What Heywood can’t hit. Jones over the hill. Poor McCann having to try to carry this sorry bunch all by himself. What a DUD of a team. Comeon football.
Dawg Gone Mediocre
June 25th, 2011
8:13 am
I can not wait for football season. I love rooting for perpetually mediocre Georgia football teams.
Braveone
June 25th, 2011
8:26 am
From the previous blog which had 2,420 comments, nolee led the way with 113 posts. There were 206 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 nolee 113
2 cabravesfan 100
3 Ease® 80
4 Just Pateeeee 79
5 Tom O’Hawke 75
6 ncscoots 69
7 Murph 64
8 VaBravesFan 63
9 tiger297 58
10 Lew 55
11 AtlYnkHtr 54
12 jeffrey d 53
13 richbrave 48
14 bravesgrl4life 47
15 RC 46
16 BFChris26 44
17 Fish Bisch 42
18 DAP 41
19 Bat Masterson 40
20 Jimmy 38
21 McFann :Ô: :Ô: 38
22 Arkansas Transplant 33
23 Venice Jim 32
24 Shaun 31
25 McFann ;Ô; ;Ô; 29
jerry
June 25th, 2011
8:33 am
I have found a solution the the Braves Boredom problem. Just as the game is starting and right beside the tv, I smear some paint on the wall. I then watch the paint dry.
abeeeewright
June 25th, 2011
9:05 am
Last night’s game was a tragedy. Hopefully Braves got all their yips out on that one.
You had to know that the San Diego series was going to be a let down on offense. Their pitching is pretty good.
Giving up 11 runs to the SD offense should have the boys hanging their heads in shame.
CB
June 25th, 2011
9:20 am
ab,a tragedy? Really? Fire abwright!
UKUGA
June 25th, 2011
9:23 am
R.I.P. Nick Charles . . .
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/25/nick.charles.obit/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
When I think of the era in which we first got expanded cable, guys like Nick Charles top the list of “new additions” to our living room.
Scrub21
June 25th, 2011
9:24 am
do you folks ever sleep?
UKUGA
June 25th, 2011
9:24 am
Very proud to not be on the list posted at 8:26 AM.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
9:39 am
Not much to be said for last night’s ball game. Considerably less to be said for the overnight responses.
Veer
June 25th, 2011
9:45 am
Why are you losers proud to be 2nd place in the east and having a thin lead in the wildcard, with 2 straight loses we can easily be 4th in wildcard. We are the team of the 90’s we finished first every year and now you people are okay with a 2nd place finish in the EAST.
WE ARE 5 GAMES OUT. Alex gonzalez is the reason for all of this
richbrave
June 25th, 2011
9:47 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
GWINNETT
We left the G-Men and TODD REDMOND floundering and down 8-0 in the fourth last night. We make a mini-comeback with two fence-busters and stout relief pitching, but ultimately fall 5-9
TODD REDMOND [5-7, 3.21 ERA] 4.0 IP, 8 H, 8 R/ER, 2 HR, 2 BB, 4 SO.
JOSE LUGO [3.00 ERA] 2.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R/ER, 2 BB, 1 SO.
DAVID RICHARDSON [0.00 ERA] 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R/ER, 0 BB, 2 SO.
CORY GEARRIN [3.10 ERA] 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R/ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.
1B ‘45′ GOMEZ [.298 BA] 2-4, 1 RBI [45], 2 SO.
SS DIORY HERNANDEZ [.240 BA] 1-4, 1R, 1 HR [4], 2 RBI [17].
DiamondbackMac
June 25th, 2011
9:47 am
Lew
Did you read the article about the Museum of Non-Visible Art?
Lew
June 25th, 2011
9:53 am
DBack – Yeah. There’s one born every minute. Pet Rocks on an even more absurd level. The Emporer’s new clothes. Hell – all are appropriate to the case.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
9:55 am
DBack – But their prices are pretty reasonable.
BFChris26
June 25th, 2011
9:56 am
Good morning everyone.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
9:56 am
Veer- Why are you proud to be a complete freaking moron?
Lew
June 25th, 2011
9:59 am
Hey Chris – You holding up all right?
Veer
June 25th, 2011
10:05 am
Lew
June 25th, 2011
9:56 am
Veer- Why are you proud to be a complete freaking moron?
I am not being a moron I am simply fed up of people who are happy that we are second in the East and boast about our wildcard lead of half a game and boast that we have 2nd best record in the NL. They dont realise that a 3 game losing streak changes all that.
I want Braves to be first in the east, I grew up seeing my team in first but now fans are okay with a 2nd place finish? what happend to our 90’s pride that we had? Did we focus on the wildcard back then?
BBraves
June 25th, 2011
10:07 am
I would love to trade Lowe to the Yankees for Nunez. Yankees need a started and we could use a shortstop for next year. Perfect move but I don’t think the Yankees would make that trade. Wish Braves would have called up Gearrin instead of Asencio I don’t understand that move at all. Also I would love to trade for Chris Heisey of the Reds he can play all the outfield positions and is righthanded.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
10:10 am
Veer- Maybe we’re about fed up with idiots like you?
IVAN ...
June 25th, 2011
10:10 am
Lew….
How ya been?.
Worked on average 10-11 hr. days the last week and a half (heating and a/c repair) and have been outta the loop…….
Need you to do me a favor…..
If you see ‘HAGGARD’ post, tell him I said thanks for the Chief Noc-a Homa picture he left at my house last weekend………
Don’t know when I’ll catch him …………..
Thanks.
DiamondbackMac
June 25th, 2011
10:11 am
Lew
Why couldn’t I have come up with a scam like that? I guess my mind just doesn’t work that way.
DS1
June 25th, 2011
10:11 am
I wanny, wanny, wanny, wanny!!! Wah, wah, wah!!!
OK, do the Braves have a better than anemic offense now that I have had my temper tantrum???
C’mon Veer, we all want the Braves to be in first place. But most of us are damned happy to be in 2nd place at this point in the season, considering that our offense has been pretty much non-existant (except for Mac, Chipper and glimpses from others……)
When (if?) the bats get untracked, if the pitching holds, the Braves could be formidable this year.
Patience, grasshopper!
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
10:14 am
Pretty cool to see Jurrjens and Hanson 1st and 2nd in the NL in ERA. Also JJ is tied in win with 9. Both guys should get some cy young consideration and certainly atleast one of them will be in the AllStar Game.
My Spring Training Predication was Brian McCann would have a monster season and be a dark horse MVP candidate. So far i’ve been right, there’s just no way he doesnt get some votes playing the Catchers position and being the clear cut best offensive player on the Braves. Right now among everyday players he’s top 10 in Slugging and OPS. Also to note among he has the least amount of K’s of the top 10 OPS hitters. He’s also 4th in the NL in Intentional Walks.
I believe McCann will flirt with almost 30 homers this year, and eclispe the 100 RBI for the 1st time in his career. He’ll be a top 10 MVP candidate.
IVAN ...
June 25th, 2011
10:16 am
Hey Lew, just ‘veer’ off………..
My dad always said you can’t win an arguement with ignorance…..
You will have games like last night…
Tip your cap to their starter …. The dude pitched a gem…..
I like the make-up of our team and when we get Prado back , let’s see what happens……..
I think he makes a huge difference when in the game…
Think back to last Sept. when he went down (and Chipper was also gone)…
Might of made a difference.
ray k.
June 25th, 2011
10:18 am
I was looking at Greg maddux’s numbers last night. He could have won 25 games with both the cubs and braves in 92 and 93. The cubs scored 8 runs in his 11 losses, seven being shut outs; the braves scored 15 runs in 10 losses. And still the guy won 20 games.
He was otherworldly.
Veer
June 25th, 2011
10:19 am
Lew if you were a baseball player i bet you would resemble a hybrid of Mather and Alex Gonzalez
Lew
June 25th, 2011
10:20 am
Do you seriously think any of us care that you’re fed up with people who have no control over what the Braves do on the field? Proud of being in second? Hardly you damned fool – we’re just aware that complaining about it on a daily – hell, much more frequently than daily – basis changes nothing.
We don’t hit, we don’t field, we don’t pitch. All we do is remain awake and watch while these occasional bad games occur. Nothing whatsoever that we do affects anything on the field. We can’t change personnel. We can’t even ask for changes cause the process doesn’t include us.
As for not realizing that a three game losing streak puts us under the Wild Card leader? WTF? It’s still June. There’s half a season left. There are players that will return from the DL. There’s the potential for a deal to get more offense. Why are you even concerned about the Wild Card with three months of baseball left in the season? You don’t think that the WC lead will change a multitude of times by the end of September? Why are you even concerned about the WC before September anyway?
Yeah, we want the Braves to be in first place, too, but realize that not only is it not under our control, but it’s still too early to be freaking out – much less to be pissed off at the fans for not slitting our throats or jumping off a bridge.
DC Brave
June 25th, 2011
10:20 am
He was halfway to the house, making that familiar walk from the barn across the gravel he had brought in last summer. A hot Virginian sun was setting, another day on the farm was coming to an end. As he looked out across the yard something caught his eye. A baseball. Not the white baseball you buy in stores…but a ball that had seen some mud and was ready for a game. The kind of ball he used to strike fear in the hearts of batters with. He looked out across the pasture and smiled. How’d that get there. But then he looked down at his hand. There was no ring there. Not that he’d wear a World Series Ring around the farm…but that didn’t matter…it wasn’t there. He looked out across the pasture again…south…toward Atlanta. The smile was gone. His jaw tightened. It was time.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
10:21 am
And I bet you resemble a twelve year old with broken glasses and anger issues. That’s pretty well what you act like.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
10:23 am
IVAN – I’m fine – Just Jousting With the Idiots (sounds like a new game show).
Re: Haggard – haven’t seen or heard anything from him in weeks, Sent him an email and have received no response. Hope he’s all right.
IVAN ...
June 25th, 2011
10:28 am
Lew….
If you do make contact with him, pass on the thanks…
I know he was around first of the week when he left the picture in my mailbox….
Thanks again………
Lew
June 25th, 2011
10:31 am
IVAN – No problem. At least if he stopped by your place last week, he’s not in too bad a shape. Was getting somewhat concerned.
Venice Jim
June 25th, 2011
10:39 am
Powder Blue
June 25th, 2011
12:51 am
VJ, I’m sorry I’m stuck being a fan of a team owned by a group that isn’t committed to winning. It hasn’t always been this way. I’m equally sorry I have to suffer your unsolicited snide commentary. Go enjoy your hippie lettuce, hug it out, and embrace that mediocrity!
Wow, poor PB must be the first person to receive unsolicited advice on the blog. I just hope he was referring to hugging it out with the Braves when he refers to mediocrity and not cab. Not quite sure why he thinks finding his relentless pessimism annoying would have resulted from partaking in the illicit activity he alludes to…
Lew
June 25th, 2011
10:43 am
VJ – Many of those complaining about lack of winning attitude seem to forget that the first fifteen or so years Ted Turner owned the team, they were terrible – one division championship and nothing else..
Lew
June 25th, 2011
10:44 am
VJ – Maybe he needs a hug?
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 25th, 2011
10:45 am
IVAN—
Good to know Haggard’s been around your place!I’ve been wondering about him as well…
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
10:49 am
I dont see a big deal, every team has a pretty bad loss every once in a while.
McFann– I have a post a few comments up about McCann and the MVP
Venice Jim
June 25th, 2011
10:50 am
Lew – of course, his previous blog incarnation was I Miss Ted Turner…
BFChris26
June 25th, 2011
10:54 am
Lew
Doing as good as I can. Trying to stay strong for my mom and dad. It hurts inside, but I’m managing it. Trying to keep busy/distracted to keep my mind off things until next week. Today is still a joyful day. Celebrating the good memories on his b-day today.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
10:55 am
VJ -Doesn’t surprise me.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
10:56 am
Chris – Hang in there. We’re here if you need the support.
George
June 25th, 2011
11:03 am
Good morning all
WOW We waited about 53 hours for last nights proformence.
Bobby Hill
June 25th, 2011
11:04 am
Runs: 21st
Batting Average: 26th
On-base %: 25th
Slugging: 17th
Are these the numbers of a World Series caliber team? The last place, worst team in baseball, Astros have scored more runs than the Braves. The Pirates have a better batting average and OBP than the Braves. The punchline Royals have a higher OPS, and half of their team is Braves cast-offs.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
11:08 am
And yet the Braves have the second best record in the NL. Guess baseball isn’t one dimensional and there’s more to it than hitting?
Scrub21
June 25th, 2011
11:09 am
I think maybe a change in the batting order would help?
Schafer
Chipper-to help protect jason
heyward
McCann
Uggla
Freeman
Gonzalez
McLouth
i’m just….
i dont know
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
11:10 am
Lew, thanks for being a voice of reason at 10:20 a.m.
Last night’s string of reactionary missives might have set some new standard for unreadable offensiveness, especially those of one particular commenter who only posts/erupts after a bad game. Just ridiculous.
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
11:12 am
WE ARE 5 GAMES OUT. Alex gonzalez is the reason for all of this — Veer
Interesting. And here we were thinking Uggla and Heyward might have had some small part in it, too.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
11:13 am
DOB – Anytime. I always carry garlic and Holy Water when I’m blogging. Never can tell what might appear.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
11:16 am
As I said every team in the has has some really bad games… No reason to freak out. People that just wanna bash the offense and use numbers and compare us to other teams , why dont you try be positive and doing that same exact thing with our pitching cause it shows we have the best overall pitching staff in all of baseball, We have a offense that has struggled most of the year but hey we have the 2nd Best record in the NL, this offense easily has the chance to be great. Heyward is starting to hit, you have to think Dan Uggla will produce eventually and we dont even have Prado right now. We’ve had injuries as well and wouldnt you know it were still one of the best teams in the league, so quit crying please.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
11:18 am
And as for Vampires – Tomorrow starts season four of True Blood.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
11:18 am
Veer– you do realize that Gonzo is producing and playing to his norm right? He is who we thought he was. He’s played excellent defense and provided a little pop and has his usual very low OBP. How can you place blame on him? He’s done what is expected.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
11:20 am
IVAN – I’m fine – Just Jousting With the Idiots (sounds like a new game show). (Lew)
That’s funny, Lew.
“Jousting With the Idiots”, a new game show originally spawned on the in-game blog. It’s popularity spread to the overnight blog and now has finally reached the morning crowd.
Cable will probably air it next, and if successful, maybe a major network. Can you say, “prime time”?
Unfortunately, only ONE character plays the majority of the idiots. He’ll probably hire Boras as his agent.
Good morning, Venice Jim. What time are you two going to San Diego, today?
BFChris26
June 25th, 2011
11:22 am
Thanks that is much appreciated.
If you’d like to see pics of me and my bro my face book is bravesfanchris27.
Mike Berry
June 25th, 2011
11:22 am
Interesting quote by Freddy last night after the game. Just stating the obvious of course when it comes to the offense…but you have to think that upper management is trying to look for ways to improve this team offensively. I just don’t see their pitching staff keeping them in this many games for the remainder of the season. Does anybody else???
Lew
June 25th, 2011
11:24 am
Tom – I vote for Lewis Black as host of the game show.
BFChris26
June 25th, 2011
11:24 am
I have my bro in my profile pic now in observance of his b-day today, I’m the one in blue shirt in some of the pics.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
11:27 am
PERFECT, Lew.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
11:29 am
Mike Berry – I don’t know. There’s lots of time left, but so far we’ve been hearing since the season began that the Braves can’t sustain the pitching – yet they have. Maybe they’re just that good – like some of us claimed all winter long.
Scrub21
June 25th, 2011
11:30 am
VaBravesFan
“He is who we thought he was”
Is that a coach Green quote?
But your absolutely right…..
Lew
June 25th, 2011
11:30 am
chris – Nothing pops up when I put in barvesfanchris27 – Maybe you could just send a fiend request to Lew Hartman?
Lew
June 25th, 2011
11:30 am
And no, I didn’t spell it like that.
MikeInFl
June 25th, 2011
11:31 am
I don’t think we can keep up this pace if we don’t start scoring. Just too much pressure on the pitching staff, too many high-leverage innings on the bullpen.
Now, I’m not giving up… I do think the offense will improve. But if not, it’s gonna be awfully tough to win the 90 or so games needed for the WC.
George
June 25th, 2011
11:31 am
I have missed only one game this year on tv [I am unable to attend games in person]. Watching all the games I have come to the conclusion that JASON is NOT a good outfielder, at times he really looks lost out there. With the outfielders we have he needs to be in lineup because he he has power and does hit for power once in a while, but not for aveage. On the whole over the past year and a half he has under acieved when in lineup instead of on DL or bench. If Pittsburgh would take him in a strieght up trade for McCutchen I would say YES in a NY minn.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
11:31 am
Fiend request? I’m on a roll this morning.
Bobby Hill
June 25th, 2011
11:32 am
Lew,
No Lew. Baseball is not one dimensional. Its two dimensional. You score runs and you give up runs,
If you look at pitching they are 2nd in ERA and 2nd in runs given up. I venture to say that while the hitting has been pretty awful the pitching has been exceptionally good.
The problem is that the one team in baseball with better pitching also happens to be in our division, and while they have struggled on offense a bit as well, they haven’t fallen to the depths to which the braves have.
Looking ahead, the Phillies are kind of hard to gauge. They have bullpen troubles but they’ll find a way to address those. Their offense is improving. Utley has returned to form in June, although the odds of one of their older vets breaking down in pretty high. But there’s not reason to expect the Phillie to falter down the stretch.
The Braves one the other hand, simply can’t hit this poorly all season can they? The Braves offense has to improve, right? Will Heyward finish the year with a .227 average? Uggla, .175?
I think its reasonable to expect the Braves offense to improve a bit in the second half. But right now they have a log way to go even to become a middle of the pack offense. The Braves starting pitching should continue to toe the line, especially with Beachy back and Hanson nearly ready to resume pitching. The Braves bullpen has been exceptional, but it relies so heavily on O’Ventbrel that those guys will be gased by September if the team can’t find a couple of dependable arms.
The Phillies front office will do what it takes to win. They have proven that in the past. Wren has shown a willingness to make trades to bolster his team, but also a great reluctance to deal pitching prospects, and pitching prospects are just about the only thing the team has to offer anyone in a trade right now.
Frankie Wren
June 25th, 2011
11:33 am
Wow, these posts are hitting wall of shame caliber. Seriously one bad game and knee jerk posts without any thought process exhibited. Alex Gonzalez too blame, who knew?
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
11:35 am
Well Frankie…our most recent game is an excellent indication of how we’ll perform the rest of the season. I’m not looking forward to the 1000 runs we’re going to give up.
Venice Jim
June 25th, 2011
11:37 am
Tom – sorry for the slow response – just returned from a bagel run/Nala walk – we aren’t leaving until 5:00 since I’m working 10-5 at various venues – we’ll be able to listen to the game tonight on the way down (I hope)…
Scrub21
June 25th, 2011
11:38 am
MikeInFl-what readio station do you catch the games on?
Im just south of Daytona, can never find the games; except on-line
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
11:38 am
Lowe says the same crap after every start. I’m so tired of watching this bum blow games for this team.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
11:38 am
Bobby Hill – I have no idea if they can not hit all year. I’m somewhat shocked they haven’t so far and that Uggla’s bat has been non existent.
My point is that everyone keeps claiming we can’t do it all with pitching, yet halfway through the season, we have. I keep hearing how the pitching can’t hold up, yet it has.
That being said, no one else is doing much better. I watched the past two Phillies’ games and they can’t hit worth a damn, either, yet have the only NL record better than we do. Go figure. Guess what it means is that you can have a deficiency in one aspect of the game if you excel in another phase. The real tell is that lack of offense notwithstanding, the Braves would be in first place in four of the six divisions in MLB.
What? Me Worry? Why?
Frankie Wren
June 25th, 2011
11:40 am
How is that an excellent indication to the rest of the season again? Does that mean JJ and Huddy, Beachy and Hanson pitch similar to yesterday’s game? Team ERA goes from overall 3.00 to what?
Lew
June 25th, 2011
11:40 am
njbraves – I would imagine you have control of your own remote? Change the channel if you don’t like what’s on.
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
11:40 am
since I’m working 10-5 at various venues
When you put it that way you sound like a rock star
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
11:41 am
Sarcasm, Frankie…
MikeInFl
June 25th, 2011
11:41 am
Scrub21, I’m in Jax Beach. No radio here; I listen on the mlb 11 package; about $15/year, and works great on my blackberry.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
11:42 am
FRankie – jeffrey d is yanking your chain.
Frankie Wren
June 25th, 2011
11:42 am
I know Jeffrey, just busting your chops. It’s not all rosy obviously but thankfully not even July yet. Concerns yes, but firmly believe their best baseball is still ahead.
BFChris26
June 25th, 2011
11:44 am
Friend request sent Lew. Chris Chambers is me. I am still trying to figure facebook out lol.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
11:44 am
Tom – sorry for the slow response –
Never a hurry, VJ, especially considering the way I post-and-run.
First row left field, right? Wear some Braves’ gear, maybe we’ll see you on a homer (hopefully, ours).
If you don’t have any Braves’ gear, wear fluorescent pink. That’ll show up just fine.
Frankie Wren
June 25th, 2011
11:45 am
The Phillies are doing it with mirrors. They looked horrible yesterday and somehow got the W. You have to give them credit however difficult that is. I still think they are seriously overachieving and will hit a difficult patch. Braves hopefully put it together that same timeframe. We win 6 in a row and the Phillies go on to win 7 in a row. Been that way seems the last couple of years. Course everythime you count the Phillies out they play better as the season progresses so certainly not overconfident right now.
Bobby Hill
June 25th, 2011
11:46 am
You know, if getting to the playoffs was the only goal then maybe there would be no reason to worry. I think that the Braves have at least at least a 50/50 shot of making the playoffs without adding a bat.
The playoffs are pretty cool. After all only a handful of teams make the playoffs. But I want a World Series. There’s no way around the fact that the playoffs are kind of crap shoot. But, last year I watched an anemic Braves offense (and Brooks Conrad) lose a very winnable series against the Giants who went on the win the World Series.
Earl Williams
June 25th, 2011
11:49 am
I see that my buddy, Lou Vales, is still being blamed for making up names but turns out other people are being BANNED and it’s not Lou and certainly not myself.
Uggla is still in competition for Worst Starting Position Player in the Majors. He has cinched the WORST Aquisition Award by acclimation.
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
11:50 am
Is this guy being for real??
Frankie Wren
June 25th, 2011
11:53 am
Joe Simpson was pretty candid about Uggla’s struggles last night and voicing that he needs to change his approach. Not sure I have a announcer being as matter of fact since Skip left. Big Dan giving absolutely no indication that he is ready to bust out. Deja vu with Nate last season, very eerie.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
11:58 am
Is this guy being for real??
He’s just auditioning for the blog’s new game show, jeffrey d.
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
12:00 pm
Is it Punk’d? Because I feel like I’m being punked by this guy
George
June 25th, 2011
12:01 pm
We are not there yet, but the times is comming. What do we do about 2nd base? DAN stiil at .175 BA, Slugging and OPS would be good if he could he for better ave. Over 40% of his hits have been for extra bases, but he has showen no real improvement in BA. When MARTIN gets back, should Braves move him back to 2nd base? Use ERIC in LF, JORDAN CF, JASON RF.
Klaus
June 25th, 2011
12:03 pm
Re: the Phillies being doing it with mirrors don’t count your chicken’s. Buster O at ESPN said last night they have inquired about Hunter Pence.
Picture Pence on the Phillies….wait a minute… That coupled with a likely bullpen upgrade and they will be hitting the turbo button in the Braves face.
The Phillies are going to make moves to win a world series the Braves are going to make moves to stay in the WC mix. There is a huge difference in those objectives and the ROI of those types of moves.
Plus if Roy O goes on the 60 day DL they will make a move for a starter.
The Braves lack the money and the willingness to part with prime talent to make those kind of moves.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
12:04 pm
I think that Uggla has five years to work his way out of this protracted slump. They’r not sitting him, not DFAing him and owing him the balance of the $62 mil he’s owed and not trading him (doubt they even could do it).
No doubt he’s done nothing and is not at all what we’ve expected (to this point), but he’s here and he’ll be playing.
Frankie Wren
June 25th, 2011
12:07 pm
Uggla is the second baseman right now regardless of Martin comes back(whenever that is). As long as their pitching is keeping them in games and winning he will continue to play. With that said, if for some reason he doesn’t ever snap out of it, I can see them making a change around the end of the deadline. He has the whole month of July to get it going. I definitely don’t want to see Hinske in left field as he is a bigger asset on the bench. He can’t hit .175 through July can he???????
George
June 25th, 2011
12:09 pm
Lew 12:04
Yup you are right and my revised outfield would be all lefthand hitters.
Frankie Wren
June 25th, 2011
12:09 pm
Funny thing is that long term I am not worried about Uggla(maybe that 5th year). I look forward to what he brings next year. He is too good of a player not to produce. Still if it’s August and still in the thick of things, he may be sitting more.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
12:10 pm
Well, as to the Philies getting Pence – will believe it when it happens. Not to mention, he’s listed as doubtful for the next series with a hyper extended elbow and has had back and leg issues this year. He’s certainly NOT going to make Ibanzez more than a .238 hitter or make Howard more consistent.
Kept hearing how much their offense would improve with Utley back – it hasn’t. And now they’ve lost Contreras from their pen and Oswalt from their rotation.
Sorry, but acquiring an injured outfielder isn’t going to make them appreciably better – any more than adding Pence would make the Braves appreciably better.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
12:13 pm
Any word on when Martin might return? Guess Doc Holiday was wrong about the 27th (surprise, surprise) – it ain’t happening.
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
12:18 pm
Interesting place, as always. I was amused by the comment that the Phillies have bull pen troubles. They have injuries, yes, but Stutes, Bastardo (2 rookies) and Madsen have all performed very well. They get 7 or 8 innings from the starters and finish out. The Braves bullpen may be better, but the Phillies bullpen has been excellent. They also could have 2 pitchers with 10 wins and one with 9 by their 81st game (half way). They are 6th in the National League in runs scored (the Braves are 11th), first in wins and ERA (this ranking changes day to day with the Braves) and have the fewest errors (33). They seem to be winning with more than mirrors.
Maybe they will collapse, and if they do it will probably be due to injuries, but if they play as well as they currently are, they will be tough to catch. Both the Phillies and Braves would like a right handed hitting outfielder (with power if possible). It’ll be interesting to see who wins this mini-competition. Most of the sentiment here seems to be that the Braves need to play better to catch the Phillies, rather than depend on a Phillies collapse. That is probably true, but if they play at their current level, even if Uggla and Heyward continues to struggle, the Braves are odds on to be the wild card. The competition seems to be in the West, but if you want to bet on a collapse, bet on Arizona. SF should have a record to challenge the Braves, but they are last in runs scored. Much worse than the Braves. SF is the team doing it with mirrors. St. Louis will suffer without Albert, and bad starting pitching (12th in ERA and third worst in runs scored).
I fail to see why Braves fans are so pessimistic. Take a look at the competition. Only the Phillies performance has been superior so far.
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
12:19 pm
I fail to see why Braves fans are so pessimistic. Take a look at the competition. Only the Phillies performance has been superior so far.
I’ll refuse to be pessimistic, but I can understand why the doom and gloomers feel that way. This offense couldn’t swing their way out of a wet paper bag.
Frankie Wren
June 25th, 2011
12:21 pm
Mark Reynolds batted .198 last season with the Diamondbacks. He hit 32 HR’s and drove in 85. That’s going to be stretch for Uggla this season and unlikely. Not the expectations going into this season for sure.
George
June 25th, 2011
12:21 pm
Lew 12:13
Hate to say it, but it could be a long time. He still would have to get his legs back to playing shape after healing. Healing he can not run now to stay in shape.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
12:23 pm
jeffrey d -”The offense copuldn’t hjit their way out of a wet paper bag.”
Dude, neither can the Doom and Gloomers. They would sit there and suffocate while complaining there was no way out.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
12:24 pm
I see Uggla batting around 200-210 by season’s end. But he could easily hit 30 bombs still. He’ll help this team, the dude will go on some hot streaks soon.
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
12:24 pm
Now I’m amused thinking of a possible situation that would cause someone to end up in a wet paper bag….
George
June 25th, 2011
12:25 pm
DAN is on a pace to hit 21 HRs.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
12:26 pm
George – Yep, that’s pretty well what I tired telling a few here the other day. Doc even claimed it was “only a little cut” that the Doctors made to drain Martin’s infected leg.
Been there myself -it can take people months to recover from these infections. Even with a younger person in good shape and excellent medical treatment, multiple weeks of recovery is not out of the question
Frankie Wren
June 25th, 2011
12:26 pm
I will take a Reynolds like season from him at this point. 30 bombs is going to be difficult unless he gets on a streak very soon.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
12:27 pm
jeffrey d – As usual, cuts to the chase. I’m not sure why anyone would be in a wet paper bag either.
CaptainMudderland
June 25th, 2011
12:29 pm
….Curtains still dance with the wind and the sky, micromanaging the Braves from a blog gets me high.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
12:29 pm
George
He may only be on pace for 21 dingers, but he’s the biggest power threat on the roster and he will not hit like this all year. All it takes is 1 good week where he hits 3 or 4 homers and that pace changes alot.
Frankie Wren
June 25th, 2011
12:30 pm
Not a pessimistic guy either but….. If somehow he doesn’t start hitting next month, this team may very well switch gears and look for a corner outfield for this season. Prado moving to 2B and somebody picked up playing LF. CF need changed to a corner outfielder need. Man I hope he starts hitting.
Jake W.
June 25th, 2011
12:30 pm
The Phillies are doing it with mirrors. They looked horrible yesterday and somehow got the W. You have to give them credit however difficult that is. I still think they are seriously overachieving and will hit a difficult patch.
I can see the phillies having the best record and winning the division, I also can see them being eliminated in the first round because they really are not that much better than the other playoff contenders in the NL. Only difference is they have beat up on more of the bad teams than the braves but as long as we make the playoffs, I really don’t care if its by wild card or division since we play about the same on the road and at home.
I mean braves fans have seen this story before right? Great play during the regular season, early exit in the playoffs. The phillies remind me more of those teams than a juggernaut that so many in the preseason predicted would have one of the best rotations of all time and be nearly unbeatable.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
12:33 pm
I believe Uggla will hit around 240-250 the rest of the season and provide some pop for sure.
George
June 25th, 2011
12:35 pm
We may lose tonight, but tomorrow VJ and cab will be in left field stands and a Brave will hit a HR to them. VJ and cab will bring us luck.
Frankie Wren
June 25th, 2011
12:35 pm
Everytime Uggla comes to bat, I hear The Who’s Won’t get Fooled again tune. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. He looks the same as he did in April.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
12:36 pm
I don’t think the length of the cut means too much. It’s probably the depth of it.
If it has to heal from inside out, that means the surface of the incision won’t heal until last.
And only then well he be able to start getting his legs back into playing shape.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
12:36 pm
Hell, Uggla could figure it out the 2nd half of the season and have a monster half. He’s been consistant over his career to just play like crap for a full season. Everyone might as well ignore his Stats for the season cause they’ll be terrible no matter what. Uggla could hit 270. with 15 homers in the 2nd half easily if he figures it out.
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
12:36 pm
We may lose tonight, but tomorrow VJ and cab will be in left field stands and a Brave will hit a HR to them. VJ and cab will bring us luck.
Provided, of course, that we don’t end up cursing Huddy again. We’ve been his kryptonite so far this season…
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
12:37 pm
**too** consistant
George
June 25th, 2011
12:38 pm
Why are they called stands when they have seats?
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
12:38 pm
If you’re stopping by Cafe 222 in San Diego, I recommend the pork tamales and eggs.
http://twitpic.com/5gpm9p
So stuffed, it’s gonna be hard to write a new blog now.
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
12:41 pm
Lew…I’m sorry, I didn’t know we weren’t allowed to complain about the fact that Lowe sucks. My bad. Please, enlighten us with more of your remarkable baseball knowledge. Tell us again how the Phillies getting Pence wouldn’t make them much better.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
12:41 pm
DOB
im very very hungry after seeing that picture…..
George
June 25th, 2011
12:42 pm
DOB 12:38
Now thats a meal.
Scrub21
June 25th, 2011
12:43 pm
DOB
Im stilll thinking about peanutbutter and banana stuffed french toast
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
12:43 pm
Ha,ha…DOB, you needed a bigger plate!
George
June 25th, 2011
12:43 pm
njbrave 12:41
Lowe has not sucked.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
12:44 pm
Wll, it’s been delightful, as usual (for the most part). Time to go check out for a while and work on Murph’s Wurlitzer of Nolan Ryan punching out Robin Ventura and maybe listen to some head crunching tunes – maybe some Buck Cherry and Dragonforce.
Later, Oh Reasonable Ones.
RemoW
June 25th, 2011
12:46 pm
Is anyone else on here a little worried about Davey Johnson taking over the Nats? The has 1 loosing season in 12 years of managing! The Nats could have only done better by getting Bobby to un-retire and manage the Nats!
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
12:46 pm
Of course getting Pence would make the Phillies better. He is better than either Francisco or Mayberry, but he will be too expensive, unless Houston gives him away. I’m sure they’d rather give away Carlos Lee.
George
June 25th, 2011
12:47 pm
Outta here for a bit, hope to be back before game, Have a good afternoon y’ll.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
12:47 pm
njbraves
I agree with LEW. I’m glad your not in charge, because Lowe is a big Key to our season and going deep in the playoffs. Hunter Pence would help any offense, but he wouldnt fix a offense. Also as LEW pointed out the guy is having some injury problems.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
12:47 pm
njbraves – More of my remarkable baseball knowledge? Your feeble mind could not begin to encompass my remarkable baseball knowledge. There is likely no force on earth capable of penetrating your wall of scathing pessimism and cluelessness.
Jake W.
June 25th, 2011
12:47 pm
I’m sorry, I didn’t know we weren’t allowed to complain about the fact that Lowe sucks.
Somehow I don’t think its Lowe’s fault we lost that game. The guy got blooped to death and gave up some of the cheapest runs. Jason didn’t help things by not catching that flyout, another Maybin infield hit, than a bloop hit in front of Jason and suddenly its 5 to nothing. Braves had no runs, they scored two when a pitcher not trying to walk someone grooved a pitch to Freddie. Then Ascencio brought the gas and insured that Jonny V and Kimbrel would have an off day. Nice of him to be thinking about his penmates like that, i’m sure they appreciated the extra rest.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
12:49 pm
I knew Lew would do an encore after he saw njbraves post @ 12:41.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 25th, 2011
12:50 pm
VaBravesFan—
I agree with you re: BMac! Hey, if he could come in 21st in the MVP voting last year, he’s GOTTA be up there this year if he keeps going the way he’s been going, last night exceptionalized…
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 25th, 2011
12:52 pm
And I’m not saying he was bad last year, but it wasn’t one of his best overall…He was way more deserving of MVP votes in 2006 and 2008, but he got totally ignored…
George
June 25th, 2011
12:53 pm
Tom 12:49
Yup, me too.
George
June 25th, 2011
12:55 pm
McFann
I really liked your big word [ exceptionalized] in your 12:50 post.
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
12:58 pm
Lew…. Actually, I’m not pessimistic about this team all that much. I think they will eventually start to hit. However, Lowe is not important to this teams success one bit. I’d Minor made all of Lowe’s starts for the rest of the year, the team would be no worse off. I just don’t understand why anyone would feel Lowe was vital to this team winning anything. What has he done, outside of the last month of last year?? Of not for great run support his first two years, he would have been lucky to be a.500 pitcher.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
1:00 pm
Hunter Pence has about a 20% chance of being traded. The Astros are under new ownership and trading your best player and face of the franchise wouldnt be too popular as your 1st major transaction. Also to note, Pence is struggling with some injuires so team will be even more cautious. The Astros asking price is pretty big, and I dont see a team matching what they want with the injury issues. Hunter Pence is under team control for I believe the 2012 and 13 seasons. He’s there most popular player. This is totally different from Lance Berkman who was not playing well or near his norm’s and had a 15 mil option for 2011 that they were not gonna do. They traded him for a few prospects it made sense. He will be in trade talks up to the deadline and during the offseason. I do believe he will be traded at some point in time.
As far as the Phillies are concerned they cant add alot of payroll to the roster, they dont have many trade pieces to offer as they have traded away alot of top prospects. Hunter will prolly be making around 10-11 million next season after arbritration most likely.
Astros will be wanting a Major League Ready Starter, along with a top prospect and 1 mid tier guy or a Average MLB outfielder such as John Mayberry.
Brave New World
June 25th, 2011
1:01 pm
Lowe carried the Braves into the playoffs and was great in the series against the Giants. Don’t know what’s wrong with him in 2011, but this guy has won 15 and 16 games the past two years for us, so I do not understand the animosity towards him. We got killed last night, but I can see the Braves taking the next two with Jurgens and Hudson. GO BRAVES!
Bat Masterson
June 25th, 2011
1:02 pm
Considering the tone of some of the comments that survived last night, I feel very fortunate to have missed the deleted ones.
Soph
June 25th, 2011
1:05 pm
I stopped going back to see in-game after a loss but you’ve made me curious Bat. Guess I’ll take a peek.
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
1:05 pm
Derek Lowe’s Braves career…34-28..4.33 ERA..1.428 WHIP…2.4 WAR…Wow, I’m so impressed. Give me a break. The guy just isn’t very good, and definitely not worth the $15 million they are paying him.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
1:06 pm
Also to Note regarding Hunter Pence, not too many teams believe he is a “superstar” or could be the “main man” on a contending team. The Astros are about 3 to 5 years from maybe being in contention. They have one of the worst farm systems. Its key that they trade Pence and Bourn possibly Wandy Rodriguez and Brett Myers to restock there system. Face it. Time to tear it down and rebuild. Shed payroll, get some good prospects, figure out what young major leaguers you want to build around and go with it. They would love to trade Carlos Lee, but they would have to eat a good amount of contract and wouldnt get much in return anyways.
Bat Masterson
June 25th, 2011
1:08 pm
Soph_
Wear a haz-mat suit.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
1:09 pm
njbraves
Yes he’s over payed. But would you really have been comfortable dealing Lowe this past offseason and banking on Mike Minor? Look what has happened we have had 3 starters go down. It would have been stupid.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
1:09 pm
Considering the tone of some of the comments that survived last night, I feel very fortunate to have missed the deleted ones.
Bat Masterson
I only saw a few of them before DOB deleted some, but my buddy’s kid (TRB), who likes to watch the insanity on the in-game blog, thinks it’s the same dude that has been terrorizing the blog, lately.
The same one that has been using other poster’s names, like bravesgrl4life, cabravesfan, etc.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 25th, 2011
1:10 pm
George—
Haha, thanks!
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 25th, 2011
1:10 pm
Oh, glad I missed the deleted ones, too…
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
1:11 pm
VaBravesfan….Why would it have been stupid? He’s 3-6, you don’t think Minor or Teheran, or Delgado can go 3-6 with an ERA over 4??
Bat Masterson
June 25th, 2011
1:14 pm
Tom O’_
It must have been a mess. O’Brien wrote he deleted some of JoeBrave’s fouler comments. I guess whatever it was that JoeBrave claimed he had found that would make him a better man, turnover a new leaf, or whatever, wore off.
Soph
June 25th, 2011
1:16 pm
Good grief, insanity galore.
That guy with “who” something’s been stealing names for two weeks now. Glad he was axed.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
1:17 pm
njbraves
Dude, I wouldnt be comfortable depending on 20 years old…. I’m sure most on here agree with me. Lowe might be overpayed but he does his job. Weve had injuries and would have been screwed. Lowe the old pitcher in the rotation yet he doesnt go on the DL or miss starts? Like JJ,Hanson,Beachy…. Depth is our strength. And as far as im concerned Lowe is huge for the 2011 Braves.
Soph
June 25th, 2011
1:20 pm
Glad to read about hag too. Was worried about him.
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
1:23 pm
VaBravesFan…So you’re comfortable with a guy that just makes his starts and whatever you get, you get? Wow, I disagree, but okay. To me, Lowe is “noncompetitive”, as he likes to say, far too often to be in this rotation. 82-85 MPH sinkers, that, if you don’t get swings, are rarely ever strikes. I’m not claiming the guy never has a good start, just feel they are way too rare. Minor seems to be starting to get it, why not give him a shot? I know they won’t do it, but I’d dump Lowe for anything I could get, a invest that money in other areas.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
1:24 pm
njbraves
You gotta look past Lowe’s numbers, realize what the man brings to your team for a full season compared to someone like Mike Minor or a Julio Teheran who isnt ready for the majors yet. I’m not saying Minor couldnt match Lowe’s numbers. But come playoff time is Minor gonna start a game for me? NO. Lowe has playoff and big game experience. Dependable pitcher. You talk as if this guy is total trash and thats a complete joke. Just because he’s overpayed doesnt make him a terrible pitcher.
Jake W.
June 25th, 2011
1:25 pm
The guy just isn’t very good, and definitely not worth the $15 million they are paying him
Every team has a guy on it that isn’t worth the money they are paying him. All I know is that our pitching has an overall ERA of 3.09 even with Lowe. That’s second best in all of baseball as the phillies have a 3.06 ERA. Our entire rotation earns about 28 million and theirs about 59 million. I’d say we’re getting good bang for our buck especially since its obvious to most people that the difference in the two teams right now is definitely not the pitching, its the offense. Not sure what the difference in money is in the pen but I have a feeling we’re getting a steal there too. No complaints about the pitching from me.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
1:27 pm
Bat Masterson/Soph
According to TRB, who’s has/is/& will be taking some type of human behavior class in college, and thinks it’s good practice to observe the in-game blog, feels the majority of the idiots are, at most, 2 different posters. Possibly one.
He says there are 2 distinct styles of posting, but one person could easily change a style for certain monikers.
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
1:29 pm
njbraves
You do realize were paying Hanson/Jurrjens/Beachy around 4.5 million total. No reason to complain about Lowe’s contract when we have the top pitching staff in baseball. If we were out of contention and playing like crap YES you trade Derek Lowe and try to get as much salary off the books on Lowe, but thats not the case.
Derek Lowe will have a 50% chance of being traded this offseason, because Mike Minor will really be ready to play at the big league level for a full season, Teheran will be ready by mid 2012 to contribute, and we’ll have Medlen as emergency. To go along with Huddy,JJ,Hanson,Beachy.
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
1:29 pm
Lowe shouldn’t start a playoff game if it isn’t necessary. I’ll take JJ, Hanson, and Huddy any day over Lowe. It was a bad contract the day he signed it, and it hasn’t gotten any better. We agree, to disagree, i hope I’m wrong.
Kat
June 25th, 2011
1:30 pm
Just made a BBQ Chicken and cheese quesadilla..delicious.
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
1:31 pm
VaBravesFan, why is the fact that those three guys make little money relevant? Lowe’s $15 million could be used in other areas to improve the team.
fred
June 25th, 2011
1:32 pm
Time to pull plug on Uggla. release him, send to minors, whatever is needed and move on. When Prado comes back make him regular 2B. Regardless of the money invested in Uggla, its dragging team down and you cannot continue to have a regular with a .238 on base percentage as a regular. No starter in MLB history comes close to this performance over the course of half a season. he has had his chance.
Frankie Wren
June 25th, 2011
1:33 pm
I can be patient with Lowe and he can help this team. Still when all is said and done, if October brings playoff baseball I go with the other 3. If everybody is healthy I am trotting out Huddy, JJ and Hanson before Lowe gets the ball. He’s had success in the playoffs but no Schilling here.
goatroper
June 25th, 2011
1:33 pm
lowe has got to go. he is the only pitcher in the rotation that makes me feel like we have to shot to win we he is on the mound. the offense obviously doesn’t care for him either because they refuse to score any runs for him.
Brave New World
June 25th, 2011
1:34 pm
While some Braves “fans” are busy bashing Lowe, wonder what some Philly “fans” are saying about Oswalt? Lowe and Oswalt are two proven winners who have had dissapointing 2011’s thus far, and each is capable of turning things around.
Jake W.
June 25th, 2011
1:34 pm
It was a bad contract the day he signed it, and it hasn’t gotten any better.
Well it sure as heck hasn’t gotten worse, we have improved every year we had him. Results remain to be seen from this season and next but it sure hasn’t been some huge failure. What he did in September alone to get us in the playoffs is worth better than nothing. Oliver Perez would not have done that, after all once AJ and CC signed with the Yanks, these were pretty much our only choices. Looking at that, things could have definitely been worse.
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
1:34 pm
fred…Great call, I’m sure the Braves will have no problem paying Uggla $62 million to play for another team. I’m surprised they haven’t cut him already.
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
1:35 pm
Comparing Lowe to Oswalt is a joke, right??
goatroper
June 25th, 2011
1:36 pm
Lowe is starting to remind me of Kawacrappy. You have to hold your breath when he is on the mound and hope the ball finds a defenders glove when it is smashed.
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
1:39 pm
I’m amazed that Lowe has one good month and a few nice playoff starts, and everyone thinks he’s so important. Come on people, watch the guy pitch. He’s always in trouble, put’s far too many people on base, and runs up crazy pitch counts by the fifth inning most times out. Why?? Because if the other team doesn’t swing at his sinker, he can’t get people out. The guy has no way of getting outs, unless the opposition is overly aggressive.
goatroper
June 25th, 2011
1:39 pm
No VaBravesFan, being overpaid doesnt make you a terrible pitcher, but Lowes numbers sure do.
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
1:40 pm
Someone mentioned McCann for MVP, so I looked around and saw Matt Kemp’s numbers. For all of that, Kemp and Ethier, the Dodgers have scored fewer runs than the Braves. They have two Lowe-esque starters, Billingsley and Lilly, who earn $14M between them, and no useful closer. Their pitching is 14th in teh league. The Dodgers financial position is well known.
The Braves have lots of pitching. Just wondered if any could be packaged for Kemp. Now something like that would be a real blockbuster trade. Bold. Very unWrenlike.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 25th, 2011
1:41 pm
Haha! Check this out! (And listen to who one of the announcers is…)
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Sawed-off-University-of-Florida-hitter-breaks-m?urn=mlb-wp10621
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 25th, 2011
1:41 pm
Glad that pitcher’s on our side…
VaBravesFan
June 25th, 2011
1:43 pm
OK i’m dont arguing Lowe is a good pitcher, certainly not bad or trash…
Jake W.
June 25th, 2011
1:44 pm
I’m amazed that Lowe has one good month and a few nice playoff starts, and everyone thinks he’s so important
I think what’s amazing here is that you can’t see the big picture. The braves were desperate for pitching after 2008 and the two top pitchers signed with the Yanks. If we had balked at Lowe we could have had Perez. Not to mention if he doesn’t step up in September when Huddy struggled and the injuries began taking its toll on our rotation, no we do not make the playoffs. I mean I could focus on all the negatives about Lowe like you do or I can look at the big picture and see how things could have been so much worse had we not signed him.
Brave New World
June 25th, 2011
1:45 pm
njbraves June 25th, 2011 1:35 pm
Comparing Lowe to Oswalt is a joke, right??
No joke, njbraves, Oswalt is pretty good also.
goatroper
June 25th, 2011
1:47 pm
If we have to keep Lowe on the roster, i nominate him to be the new Homer the brave.
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
1:49 pm
Braves’ .305 OBP tied with Padres for worst in NL.
ATL batters’ 585 K tied with Pirates for 3rd-most in NL, behind Padres (630) and Nats (605)
Bat Masterson
June 25th, 2011
1:50 pm
Tom O’_
My hats off to him. Sometimes when the blog gets crazy I’m reminded of this tune.
http://youtu.be/_ZncehIh_Kw
goatroper
June 25th, 2011
1:51 pm
Those numbers are not very easy on the eyes DOB…ouch
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
1:54 pm
Jake W… So, because they needed pitching so bad, and because Oliver Perez is a joke, the Lowe signing was a good one? How many playoff series have they won since the great Derek Lowe arrived?? Come on man, I know they needed pitching, but that doesn’t excuse the fact that this guy has been, and still is, mediocre.
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
1:55 pm
Brave New World….you made me laugh, good one.
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
1:57 pm
For anyone who might’ve wondered, there was a typo in title to the Tom Russell song about Mickey Mantle on the blog. It’s “The Kid from Spavinaw.”
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
1:59 pm
Oh yeah, that song sure fits, Bat.
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
2:00 pm
The Braves are last in hit by pitches, stolen bases and sacrifice flies.
cricket
June 25th, 2011
2:00 pm
I will respect anyone who can show their comments posted on this blog criticizing Lowe signing soon after it happened. In the hindsight, I can easily point out the past lotto numbers I should have selected.
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
2:03 pm
the offense obviously doesn’t care for him either because they refuse to score any runs for him — goatroper
You think they signed a pact, or just made an informal agreement among themselves?
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
2:04 pm
Cricket….I can’t prove anything to you, but I hated the signing from day one. Lowe has never impressed me very much, and I knew a $60 million investment, for a mid market team, was a mistake.
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
2:06 pm
Time to pull plug on Uggla. release him, send to minors, whatever is needed and move on. — fred
ding ding ding — we have a winner! Not quite three months into a five-year, $62 million contract, it’s time to “pull the plug.” Releasing him, now that seems like a sound business decision.
Fred, with all due respect, I’m gonna guess you don’t run a business? I’m just guessing, though. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Jake W.
June 25th, 2011
2:06 pm
How many playoff series have they won since the great Derek Lowe arrived?? Come on man, I know they needed pitching, but that doesn’t excuse the fact that this guy has been, and still is, mediocre.
Lowe is mediocre, the rotation is stellar along with pen,and the offense is sub par. I don’t know, you tell me, what is the biggest reason they haven’t won a playoff series Lowe or this underachieving offense? One underachiever in the rotation or multiple underachievers in the lineup. I don’t know, at this point I would settle for an offense that was simply mediocre. We could have the best record in the league if the offense just reached mediocrity. But hey why focus on the real reason we struggle when we can scream Lowe sucks every one in five days.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
2:07 pm
Sounds like a pact, DOB. Probably signed in blood.
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
2:09 pm
I think the Braves can overcome this loss, but winning the SEC East will be really difficult now.
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
June 25th, 2011
2:13 pm
Derek Lowe is a winner, period. Dependable, durable and steady. But no, he ain’t an ACE pitcher, which 15 million per season equates too.
The guy has had the lowest run support of any starter this year and last night was no different. Our offense or lack thereof has caused a ripple effect. When starters feel the pressure of trying to be perfect on the mound, they make mistakes.
Blame the offense, particularly Dan Uggla. The guy has always been a pull hitter but this season…he’s become a dead pull hitter who is using one-third of the diamond to hit. So 2011 remains an underachievement as long as Uggla continues to keep his head up his butt.
Carry on!
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
2:14 pm
Of course they can overcome the loss. They have stoppers. And I suspect the Braves could win the SEC East in baseball if they were members.
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
2:17 pm
Coach… Lowe is a winner?? Really??
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
June 25th, 2011
2:17 pm
Phillies and Braves…….
The only two teams that have not been swept in a series this season, so yea, we have stoppers.
Jake W.
June 25th, 2011
2:19 pm
I think the Braves can overcome this loss, but winning the SEC East will be really difficult now.
Oh yeah, everybody knows game number 77out of 162 is the real game changer. Even more important than game number 20 when I believe we were not just “ballgame’d” but “season’d”.
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
June 25th, 2011
2:20 pm
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
2:17 pm
Coach… Lowe is a winner?? Really??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Nahhhh, Lowe’s 142-113 record as a starter is just my own brilliant blog creation!
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
2:22 pm
Hard as it may be for some to accept, Braves are still tied for NL’s second-best record (43-34).
Scrub21
June 25th, 2011
2:26 pm
DOB
I just laughed so hard, I feel out of my chair.
but winning the SEC East will be really difficult now.
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
2:27 pm
Coach… Wow, 29 games over.500 in 255 decisions, save a spot in the Hall of Fame for the proven winner Derek Lowe.
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
2:27 pm
The Braves are 13-8, Phillies 14-8, Nationals 16-6, Mets 12-10, and Marlins 2-21 (ouch) in June. Generally a tough division. Look at the wild card competition, St. Louis 8-13, Giants 13-9. The Braves, Phillies, Nats and Giants all have “crappy offenses” but they all have done well in June. St Louis has crappy pitching.
Klaus
June 25th, 2011
2:32 pm
Regarding Pence being unavailable what was the first thing the new owners and new GM in San Diego did after they acquired the Padres? They traded Adrian Gonzo.
Pence is not better than Adrian and he can be moved the the proper price. Houston needs to rebuild and if Hunter can help them acquire prospects they will listen.
Unlike the Braves and other teams who ride their guys until they have no trade value or leave with no picks I suspect savvy owners know when to cash out and retool.
My point on Hunter was not just the impact but the probability of ATL beating Philly in a bidding competition for Pence.
I give the odds to Philly and contrary to popular opinion they will spend money. The Braves not so much.
patrocket
June 25th, 2011
2:34 pm
God speed Nick Charles.
Klaus
June 25th, 2011
2:36 pm
Baseball being a superstitious sport (and lot) can I call for tabling the “they have the 2nd best anything in all of baseball”. It is a sure fire way to cause that statement to be no longer valid, but quick.
Jobu doesn’t like…. Jobu doesn’t like.
Klaus
June 25th, 2011
2:37 pm
PS – No awards for 1H performances or standings last we checked. The pen is over used and I saw Venters tie his shoes while standing up the other day.
Wren needs to make trades or there will be no joy in mudville come september
Bat Masterson
June 25th, 2011
2:39 pm
Hard as it may be for some to accept, Braves are still tied for NL’s second-best record (43-34). DOB
You know the phrase just win, baby, well thats just not good enough. The Braves need to dominate everyone else, kick ass and take names. Winning like the Braves do is just plain damn dangerous, something could go wrong and then what. The Braves need to stop kidding around and win the right way, now, before its too late.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
2:42 pm
Regarding Pence being unavailable what was the first thing the new owners and new GM in San Diego did after they acquired the Padres? They traded Adrian Gonzo. (Klaus)
So, how has that worked out for them?
Brave New World
June 25th, 2011
2:43 pm
Thanks, njbraves!
Coach (2011 Fredi G.a Go!)
June 25th, 2011
2:45 pm
njbraves
June 25th, 2011
2:27 pm
Coach… Wow, 29 games over.500 in 255 decisions, save a spot in the Hall of Fame for the proven winner Derek Lowe.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,,
Nope, we will just be keeping his spot in the rotation
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
2:47 pm
Adrian Gonzalez was traded because the Padres are a small budget team and they knew there was no way they could resign him for what he would be asking. Hunter Pence is NOT going to be commanding the same type of contract so Houston does NOT need to trade him if they do not get what they want in return
JoeFan
June 25th, 2011
2:51 pm
lowe to the bullpen insert minor into the rotation.
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
2:52 pm
Pence makes $6.9M. Any team with a good trade package should be able to pay him this year (~$3.4M), Braves included. He’s eligible for arbitration soon.
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
2:57 pm
Pence is actually in his 2nd year of arbitration, so he’s got one left
Earl Williams
June 25th, 2011
2:59 pm
I believe people saying Uggla should be released are being facetious. Obviously a 60,000,000 Fraud can’t be released before you get an iota of production out of him and in lieu of the monumental committment made to the Hacker in the first place.
Instead of being only dismissive towards the guy who suggested he be released and making fun of his never having run a business, how about questioning the very realistic scenario of the monumental mistake of a “Business man” offering an extension to a guy who should be in his prime and is instead providing a prolonged and ugly saga of being DONE
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
3:04 pm
I saw he had arbitration in 2012-2013. Regardless, he is not a free agent who will go to the highest bidder. I had trouble figuring out what Houston’s most urgent need is, other than getting rid of Carlos Lee. They are quite bad. 15th in pitching and 9th in runs. I’d still make a run at Matt Kemp, if only to gauge what’s a proper price for Pence.
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
3:07 pm
Mudge-
According to Cots he was eligible last year but they agreed to a contract before it got that far, which would mean next season would be his last. But you are right- he is not a free agent after this season so Houston really is in control of what they do with him. No need to rush a deal for fear that he will bail at season’s end. And they do have so many holes just about everywhere…
(I won’t comment on the Kemp thing
)
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
3:16 pm
(I won’t comment on the Kemp thing
)
You should have saved one of your other 682 posts on the subject, LAdy. All you would need is a quick copy & paste.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
3:17 pm
Saw the DANG McFann just as I hit submit. Arrrrrgh!
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
3:18 pm
Tom-
I know. I’ve been thinking about doing that, but even I get tired of saying the same thing over and over
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
3:23 pm
I was saying to VJ earlier today that I can always tell when there is bad weather in upstate New York. Tom goes from nonexistent on the blog to top 10 posters
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
3:24 pm
Off for a bit…gotta take VJ to work and the dog to the parents. Back in a bit for a bit
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
3:26 pm
I HEAR you, cabravesfan. (pun intended)
The thing is, there are so many different posters here, from day to day (a lot fewer if you don’t count Lou Vales), and so many have the same idea. The Dodgers are in trouble, and we need offense.
I think it was early this morning that someone else thought that Kemp may be available, also.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
3:28 pm
(cough)Top 5 (cough)
It’s a good time for an indoor project, also. I’m replacing all of my phone wiring, on all 3 levels.
See you later, LAdy.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 25th, 2011
3:32 pm
Tom O’Hawke—
How could you have seen me, I wasn’t even there!
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
3:34 pm
I like when Tom’s a top 10 poster
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
3:36 pm
Braves are fine no need to worry
Lew
June 25th, 2011
3:37 pm
Pitching is all about keeping your team in the game and not about domination. Lowe has started 84 games for the Braves and in 66 of them he’s given up three or less Earned Runs. I really don;t care what anyone says, but to me that shows he kept his team in those 66 games – better than 75% of them (and keep in mind that he didn’t lose all of those whee he gave up more than three).
As for his salary – I’ll gt concerned when the Braves can’t afford to pay him.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
3:37 pm
McFann
Don’t worry. I think of you other times besides when I screw up.
Will, thank you, jeffrey d. At least that’s one.
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
3:38 pm
Enter your comments here
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
3:42 pm
Lowe is not getting any runs when he pitches either.
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
3:43 pm
The players are not worried,why are most of you posters worried?
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
3:45 pm
Dob,are the braves anywhere close to the league in hitting into dp?
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
3:48 pm
Wow!!!Im just amazed how all of you think if we get pence,kemp,or whoever,the braves are going to magically score runs
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
3:49 pm
…why are most of you posters worried? — NC FAN (ok)
Define, “most of”, please.
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
3:49 pm
GIDP: Braves 55, 4th. St. Louis 82, 1st. Not close at all.
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
3:50 pm
Uggla was fine batting 2nd,move him back there,and put heyard 6th.
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
3:51 pm
Tom 98%
all i have heard is braves need this,braves need that,this team has no chance.
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
3:52 pm
Read my post again 1 plaer is not going to make a difference on this team.
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
3:54 pm
braves are 5 games out and in good shape,wren is not going to do anything till prado comes back.phillie manager says they need a rh bat,gm says he needs bullpen help rather than a bat.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
3:55 pm
NC Fan is right – there is no one player out there to turn things around for the Braves – It has to come from the players we already have. Conversely, if the players we have start to hit like we know damned well that they can, we don’t NEED another player. – except for a bench or middle relief tweak.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
3:55 pm
NC Fan is right – there is no one player out there to turn things around for the Braves – It has to come from the players we already have. Conversely, if the players we have start to hit like we know damned well that they can, we don’t NEED another player. – except for a bench or middle relief tweak.
N Nine
June 25th, 2011
3:56 pm
Tied for second best record in NL!
And here we are bi$%ching and moaning. It feels good to be thankful once a while. I’m thankful to have amazing young pitchers.
Last night proved how we take the dominance of Venters and Kiimbrel for granted. Here we have a terrible hitting team putting a major hurting on a less known pitcher last night. Shows no matter what Venters and Kimbrel are pitching to MLB hitters and making them look like minors.
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
3:56 pm
2 days ago phillies lost 12-2
last nite braves lost 11-2
games like this happen,phillies won next game 1-0
lets hope braves can do the same…..
meanwhile,nats are 3.5 games behind braves
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
3:56 pm
Tom 98%
Really? Well I’ll be a son of a sopapillaporium.
There were 216 different posters on the last blog. That’s pretty representative of what DOB usually has. That means, according to you, that 211.68 posters are worried about Lowe.
I guess I must be one of the, really, laid-back 4.32 that isn’t.
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
3:56 pm
Let’s say Kemp replaces McLouth plus Schafer. They have 15 RBIs, Kemp has 60. There are intangibles, but let’s assume Kemp drives in 45 more runs in half a season than the current occupants of CF. Over 81 games, that’s an extra half run a game. If they had the extra 45 this half, they’d be fourth in runs scored, not 11th. Pence would make less of a difference. He has 51 RBIs. But both, based on current performance. would improve runs scored over the current occupants.
Ward
June 25th, 2011
3:57 pm
Hello every one! Here some facts I looked up,and just thought I would throw them out.Braves are
21st runs
Batting average 26th
on Base 25th
Slugging 17th
Lucky ,we good good pitching this year or the Braves would be in trouble.Let’s just hope the hitting comes around,because those are pathetic numbers.The good news is we have The Wild Card,and I’m happy with the pitching……..It will carry us far.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
3:57 pm
Not so sure how a double post happened.
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
3:58 pm
I’ll be the .32 person
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
3:58 pm
tom
i said 98% again are worried about the braves.that many posts u go look and see braves need this,trade this bench this
N Nine
June 25th, 2011
3:58 pm
Leading WC without Uggla and Prado. We can’t possible hit any worse in 2nd half. To say we’re 4th place team at best shows how crazy some folks get after a single loss after a 4-game winning streak.
Lew
June 25th, 2011
3:59 pm
You assume that Kemp would have runners on base to knock in. That’s quite an assumption with our OBP.
Unless the players we have start to hit, one player won’t do it.
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
3:59 pm
Tom-
Please don’t misunderstand me! I am always glad when you have crappy weather. I like having you around
rharling
June 25th, 2011
4:01 pm
There is such a huge swing of emotions on this board. If I only looked at this board, and never watched a game or looked at the standings, I would be convinced the Braves were a single digit win team.
Time will tell whether the offense will come around and help the pitching, but it’s hard for me to understand why so many people would invest so much time in the Braves when it clearly makes their lives so completely miserable. Sit back and enjoy the ride people. This team is pretty darn good, and if their offense comes around they might even be great. Be thankful you aren’t pulling for the Astros or the Cubs or something, they would kill to have a team like the Braves to cheer for.
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
4:01 pm
i will make this more clearly..
if we get pence,who drives him in?
if we get kemp,who does he drive in?
if kemp or pence played last night,who did they drive in?
kemp and pence have mor rbi,s because duh,there have been men on base.braves can not hit as a team.
bravesgrl4life
June 25th, 2011
4:01 pm
Well, I am glad I was out for most of that game last night. Turned if off when Chipper couldn’t get the ball out of his glove in the bottom of the 6th.
Went to Billy Jack’s BBQ & Shrimp last night before he closed for good. The food was great, and he is a very nice guy. Wish him the best, and wish he would bring that good eating up to Dawsonville.
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
4:01 pm
NC Fan, Braves are pretty much average in terms of GIDPs.
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
4:02 pm
NC FAN – well it’s obvious the Braves aren’t perfect. Offering a thought or opinion on how to improve the team doesn’t mean that everybody’s “worried”
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
4:02 pm
or how about the marlins 2-19 record for june?
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
4:03 pm
Okay, but how could adding a good hitter hurt the team?
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
4:03 pm
jeffrey d
i understand completely but dam day after day after day the same bs?
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
4:05 pm
Lew. The Dodgers have a worse offense than the Braves overall. And Kemp has 21 homers. He has knocked in 20% of their runs. But yes, that is one of the intangibles.
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
4:05 pm
You get used to it
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
4:07 pm
tell me how could a good hitter help this team,bmac is good what happened to him last night?come on now what u guys expect here this team to go 162-0,last game before this one uggla hit a hr,and some of u were still bashing him saying he should have hit 3hrs in the game. i have only heard 13 comments on this post out of 801 that said braves will come back tomorrow no problem.
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
4:08 pm
NC Fan..based on this year, will Pence and Kemp get on base more than McLouth or Schafer, yes. I assume you’d bat Pence or Kemp 3rd or 4th, between Chipper and McCann. They’d drive in Chipper and get driven in by McCann.
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
4:08 pm
jeffrey d
ic that tgod there are other blogs where there are true braves fans,this blog,moans,whines,and complains why the braves suck.
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
4:08 pm
NC Fan – so you’re saying if the Braves traded for a good hitter, it wouldn’t help the team?
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
4:09 pm
mudge
u cannot say that bmac had chances last nite and choked
MikeInFl
June 25th, 2011
4:10 pm
NC FAN, for this afternoon anyway, most of the whining seems to be coming from you.
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
4:11 pm
im saying that if the braves get a kemp,or pence when they continue with this sporadic offense what will be your excuse then?
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
4:11 pm
tom
i said 98% again are worried about the braves
No you didn’t, NC FAN. You immediately followed your post about Lowe with, “The players are not worried,why are most of you posters worried?”
If you MEANT the Braves, then that’s fine. I’m still one of the really, laid-back 4.32 posters that isn’t worried. Not about Lowe, the Braves, or what poster is running around here at only .32 of a person.
Maybe, that’s our, small sample-sized poster.
Earl Williams
June 25th, 2011
4:11 pm
Braves will come back tomorrow(today), Braves are a CINCH to make the playoffs, Braves stand a good chance of catching the Phillies, I still remain very optimistic of my bet that the Braves win it ALL and Dan Uggla is DONE! Toast! Terminado!
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 25th, 2011
4:11 pm
Tom O’Hawke Don’t worry. I think of you other times besides when I screw up.
Hmm…that sounds a little bit creepy…
Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:12 pm
All in all ,Second place to our-selfs is not too shabbby,and the Jar, is pitching tonight…….
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
4:12 pm
That’s funny..One inefficient game does not a choke make..the players are not robots, they’ll have bad games. You just want them to have more good games than bad. Chances are Jurrjens will get absolutely rocked some game this year. But he’ll have far more good games than bad. Sometimes the hitters get evaluated more strictly.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
4:12 pm
Tom-
Please don’t misunderstand me! I am always glad when you have crappy weather. I like having you around
Thank you, LAdy. If my crappy weather makes you happy, then it makes me happy, too.
monty
June 25th, 2011
4:13 pm
Lowe is a decent enough pitcher, at times he can be great, usually he’s mostly average. But he unravels faster than a 2 dollar dress. He may be a good interview but he borders on being a nut case on the mound. He doesn’t want to be bothered by McCann or McDowell coming to the mound, never mind that he’s pitching like he’s on a timer and the game is getting away from him. Can’t believe he yelled out f#@k when he saw Roger coming out to talk to him last night. I can definitely picture him behind the wheel of a sports car in his flip flops and you’re in his way. It ain’t gonna be pretty.
Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:13 pm
Maybe,some posters are Philly Fans in disguised.? A small Joke…….
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
4:13 pm
mike in fl
who is whinning?i am not miserable by the braves,you are.im happy where they are at,if u think this or that,call them up and tell em
Bravefaninok
June 25th, 2011
4:13 pm
bravesgrl4life
June 25th, 2011
4:01 pm
Well, I am glad I was out for most of that game last night. Turned if off when Chipper couldn’t get the ball out of his glove in the bottom of the 6th.
Went to Billy Jack’s BBQ & Shrimp last night before he closed for good. The food was great, and he is a very nice guy. Wish him the best, and wish he would bring that good eating up to Dawsonville.
We went to Billyjacks last week on our vacation,The 2 teenagers swear it was the best meal we had in the 2 weeks we were in Ga.Very good food ,very good prices as well.
bravesgrl4life
June 25th, 2011
4:16 pm
Bravefaninok – the food was great. It’s too bad he is having to close the place.
Bat Masterson
June 25th, 2011
4:20 pm
Not about Lowe, the Braves, or what poster is running around here at only .32 of a person.
Poor Horatio
http://youtu.be/Z6L70BwsjUk
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
4:23 pm
I was using the bmac dp as everyone wants perfection.
Yes uggla is struggling,but im not going to bash like most .
Im just glad the braves players do not listen to these comments about,chipper,lowe,heyward,nate,schafer.Uggla is 2nd on the team in hrs,but that does not matter huh?And he did hit a hr 2 games ago to give the braves the lead,but since he went 0/4 like most last night,lets just bash him.Lets forget pitcher for sdiego had a 1.31 era last 3 starts before this game.Uggla is trying,and braves will take the next 2 from sdiego.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
June 25th, 2011
4:24 pm
NCFan, as a fellow NC fan, I’ll be glad to help you out…I think the Braves will win tonight!
NC FAN
June 25th, 2011
4:25 pm
Since everyone is into stats….
braves are 31-7 when they score first
Otis T. Firefly
June 25th, 2011
4:25 pm
Me too!
Jeffrey T. Spaulding
June 25th, 2011
4:25 pm
Me three!
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
4:26 pm
NCFan, as a fellow NC fan, I’ll be glad to help you out…I think the Braves will win tonight!
Crap, that only leaves 3.32 positive posters.
Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:26 pm
The only teams running behind us us is for The Wild Card is San Fran Giants,Cardinals are behind us us by 2 games followed by Rockies.We have far better chance than last year.Keep believing……………….
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
4:26 pm
Hmm…that sounds a little bit creepy…
I promise you, McFann, that I meant that in the least-creepiest way, possible.
Did you ever read that eaglet rescue story yet? By the time you get around to it, that eaglet will have white head and tail feathers.
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
4:27 pm
Oh no, only .32 left!
jeffrey d
June 25th, 2011
4:27 pm
1.32*
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June 25th, 2011
4:28 pm
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Ward
June 25th, 2011
4:28 pm
Well ,I have to get ready for a friends wedding,so talk later, and Have Fun! Baseball is game of Fun, when or lose……..peace……
DC Brave
June 25th, 2011
4:30 pm
There was no ring there. Not that he’d wear a World Series Ring around the farm…but that didn’t matter…it wasn’t there. He looked out across the pasture again…south…toward Atlanta. The smile was gone. His jaw tightened. It was time.
Cont…
AAAAAHHHHHH!!!! AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! A half-asleep Chase Utley first yelled “Dude!”
then more softly….”dude”….”it’s ok big guy.”
Ryan Howard turned over in the bed. The terror in his eyes was there again as he whispered “Chase, I had the dream again…the one about Wagner coming back.”
Chase looked distant. “Look Big Guy…you can’t worry about the guy”
Howard…more composed now only said…”I know…I know.”
“Chase?
“yeah Big Guy.”
“Hold me.”
“Always, big guy.”
The two teammates then drifted off to sleep…but it was a troubled sleep, filled with visions of a Braves bullpen they could not defeat.
Earl Williams
June 25th, 2011
4:31 pm
Nice to hear that a person in America guaranteed 60,000,000 in compensation over next 5 years “is trying”, would hate to consider that he was dogging it. I guess that .176 “TRYING” bests “.176″ Not Trying. To me it looks like .176. DONE! Finished!
Venice Jim
June 25th, 2011
4:31 pm
Hooray for Captain Spaulding! the African explorer…
Efrim
June 25th, 2011
4:31 pm
Pretty nuts. Braves lead the league in OBP last year. Sigh…..
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
4:32 pm
That’s a great comparison, Bat Masterson. Those shows were all funny, but I remember that being one of my favorite scenes.
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
4:33 pm
….The Tuscaloosa in Alabama..
Bat Masterson
June 25th, 2011
4:33 pm
Mine too, Tom O’
Loved the black and white episodes.
Otis B. Driftwood
June 25th, 2011
4:34 pm
In the interests of accuracy, the name at 4:25 should’ve been Rufus T. Firefly. And I also think the Braves will win tonight, win the division, win the World Series, and win the war on poverty.
Bat Masterson
June 25th, 2011
4:35 pm
Keep fighting the good fight
See y’all
Peace
Go!!! Braves!!!
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
4:37 pm
See ya later, Bat. Thanks for the laugh.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 25th, 2011
4:43 pm
Tom O’Hawke—
Yes, I did!
Sorry…That was sweet…Thanks again for the link!
Choppinmama
June 25th, 2011
4:44 pm
With our game last night falling apart, I didn’t even bother checking in ’cause I knew the blog would be full of hateful, negative and outlandish comments from all the juvenile posters that can’t put professional baseball into any kind of realistic perspective.
After just catching up, I’m glad I didn’t waste my time. It used to be fun and imperative to check in before, during and after each game to have some fun banter, educated back-and-forth opinion sharing, and reading info straight from the inner sanctum by Carroll and DOB. That’s all still here, but buried in the c constant regurgitated slime of all those who want management to sign perfect players, watch perfect players make perfect plays, rotate perfect pitchers to the mound day in and day out, and have perfect coaches and managers always make the perfect decisions. Oh yeah, and take every player injury as a personal affront.
To all those I say: WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD. It ain’t happening. Try to embrace the attitude of the team: put the losses and the bad games behind you and move on to the next one with some semblance of maturity.
And, to all the west coast fans – enjoy watching these series of games at a decent hour and in spectacular weather. As I sit here in this FL heat and humidity, I’m jealous.
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
4:45 pm
There is no better weather in the US than San Diego.
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
4:47 pm
You’re welcome, McFann.
I knew that eggcelent story would tweak your beak. That’s why I shared it with a fellow feather-fancier friend.
Woody Woodward
June 25th, 2011
4:47 pm
Hawaii, Mudge.
David O'Brien
June 25th, 2011
4:55 pm
Braves lineup: 1. Schafer CF, 2. Heyward RF, 3. Jones 3B, 4. McCann C, 5. Freeman 1B, 6. Uggla 2B, 7. Gonzalez SS, 8. McLouth LF, 9. Jurrjens
Mudge
June 25th, 2011
4:56 pm
Been to both, Woody, still say San Diego. Although I have not been every place in Hawaii. But we can compromise by me saying continental US.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 25th, 2011
4:57 pm
Tom O’Hawke—
Thanks for the lineup, Chief!
Tom O'Hawke
June 25th, 2011
4:59 pm
Venice Jim
When you said you were leaving for San Diego at 5:00, did you mean my REAL time, or your FAKE time?
cabravesfan
June 25th, 2011
5:00 pm
Tom-
He meant our REAL time, of course
Woody Woodward
June 25th, 2011
5:01 pm
Mahalo, Mudge. I’m a bit partial as I sit here–82 and 10-15 mph tradewinds.
Venice Jim
June 25th, 2011
5:02 pm
Our fake time – today is my last day at Mathnasium before casting my lot (more or less) full-time with the Korean Center I worked in part-time last summer…