4:02 pm June 13, 2011, by David O'Brien
June 13th, 20115:21 pm
Think the beauty of that little grin is that everyone seems to know he’s not doing it to show the pitcher up at all, but more because he’s happy with himself.
June 13th, 20115:23 pm
Who cares if we owe McLouth $3 million. Make him a bench player when Prado and Heyward are both back. Schafer is the better defensive center fielder….Schafer can steal more bases and can make hits out of groundballs to the infielders. I would make McLouth the bench player when they’re all healthy.
The numbers don’t lie since Schafer’s been up the Braves are 12-4. Schafer may or may not be the future CF for the Braves but right now he’s our best option by a mil.e
McFann ;Ô; ;Ô;
June 13th, 20115:24 pm
Definitely…and he’s never really shown the pitcher up. I mean, when he hit his second home run of the night in that Saturday home game against the Reds, he sorta stood there for a couple seconds, but I’ve see WAAAY worse than that.
*sigh* Guess I’m too old to be a “chick” anymore ’cause I don’t dig the long ball as much as I dig the win……with or without the long ball.
June 13th, 20115:25 pm
Shaun, can’t you just enjoy the way the Braves are playing instead of always acting like a negative nancy?
The team is winning. They have a nice little win streak going. Just be happy about it instead of pointing out how any stats regarding the winning streak are not indicative of the team’s overall ability.
I hope you aren’t in med school or something. “Congratulations Mr Johnson, your cancer is in remission… for today at least. Statistics show it’ll probably come back and turn you into a drooling vegetable, but for now, you’re still alive. See you next week. Maybe.”
I’ve said this in another blog, but it bears repeating:
When Uggla walked back to the dugout after his blast, he was absolutely STRUTTING. When he went down the steps he got a big hug from Chipper – don’t think the other guys didn’t notice that. Also, Joe Simpson said everybody in the dugout were hi-fiving each other when he hit it.
June 13th, 20115:27 pm
LOL! You DO have a certain way with words!
Glad that the Braves are finally scoring some runs, but still skeptical. According to the blogs, this was kinda expected.
Let’s see if they can keep it going against a tougher pitcher tonight, and a tougher team in the Mets on Tuesday.
By the way, in his defense, I don’t think DOB ever draws conclusions, though he points out stats in small stretches of games. I think he’s more doing it to show realities, not to say “this stretch of games, means the Braves are destined for 100 wins”…or “100 losses”…or whatever.
If you understand this what was the need for your previous paragraph? No point at all.None.
Linebrink For Cy
June 13th, 20115:28 pm
“White Sox mistake Adam Dunn’s”
kinda harsh given just a few days ago that could have read
“Braves mistake Dan Uggla”
On the issue of McLouth’s salary, he and Schafer are making the same combined amount regardless of who starts and who sits. $3MM for the rest of the year is not a big number in the scheme of things; I think Fredi has free reign to start who he wants. I also agree that his higher OBP and better power numbers mean he will be starting again when he returns. Schafer is better served getting everyday ABs in Gwinnett than pinch hitting and running, and being a late-game defensive replacement.
Schafer, I think, returns to Gwinnett when Prado returns to the Braves.
Lowe… When all is said and done, I’ll bet Lowe’s 2011 stats are about where they’re at just about every season: 15 wins, 200 innings, and an ERA near 4.00. The guy’s like a windup toy.
But I saw Uggla GIVING a hug to Chipper during one of the previous games, too.
June 13th, 20115:29 pm
Great interview with Mac on MLBN – I’m just happy I finally got to see him do an interview (No Braves Live for me…)
June 13th, 20115:30 pm
When was this…??
June 13th, 20115:32 pm
# Just Pateeeee
I guess a hug can go either way, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen it before, Braves or other teams.
Ws that the one after the game on Sat.?
It is a no-brainer to keep Jordan in center when Nate comes back- the distraction he creates on the bases and his superior defense make him an obvious choice.
Nate may be a better 4th OFer than the other options (other than Hinske) but Schafer is a catalyst- he impacts the offense in ways that do not necessarily show up in stats, IMHO.
June 13th, 20115:34 pm
Oh, I know….it’s usually a pat on the back (or butt) or a fist bump or something, but I DO think it demonstrates the chemistry this team has in the dugout.
I’d love it if Wren could deal Lowe to the Yankees and get Andruw back in ATL. Mike Minor or Teheran in the rotation, Hinske from the left side and Andruw from the right to come off the bench in the late innings. That would be sweet.
June 13th, 20115:36 pm
I spent the last few weeks wondering why Heyward was taking so long in his recovery… now that the team is putting things together and winning I’m wondering if he’s coming back too soon.
I’m definitely not a JHey hater… a JHeyter… but now I think he has time to get to the 100% that he wants to be at before he starts playing again.
Shaun, I think it was Jim Leyland who said something like “Momentum lasts as long as tomorrow’s starting pitchers”, but experienced players and coaches and managers often talk about the way the team feels – playing… and thinking with confidence – or not. Chipper talks about the way the Braves felt and carried themselves during the 14 year stretch, and the fact that the Yankees and Phillies have had that strut lately.
I don’t think the Braves are going to wade through the Phillies… and Brewers, and Cardinals, and Yankees and Red Sox – the way they’ve had their way with the Fish and ‘Stros on this trip. But I DO think that the other teams are as a-feared of us as we might be of them.
And they should be.
I’m all for dumping Lowe on the Yanks, but i don’t think Andruw is what this team needs. They already have a few guys who go into deep slumps.
I noticed the hug, too, and I agree that it demonstrates a chemistry and camaraderie that has more importance than most people think.
Just a theory, but it also made me wonder if Larry, Sr. may have had a few tips for Uggla?
June 13th, 20115:37 pm
John Galt – it’s all about production, brother I think Hank Reardon would be a stats guy. Ha!
June 13th, 20115:38 pm
Damn MLB TV. They cut off the feed seconds after the final out, and we miss even the on-field interviews. Also, tonight’s game will very likely be blacked out because ESPN has a game. Same thing happens with FOX games on Sunday nights.
I live in Florida, 580 miles from Miami (11 miles south of the Alabama line) and all Miami games are blacked out, even when they play in Atlanta.
I don’t believe the Braves will “dump” Lowe on the Yankees or any team, as long as they’re in contention.
He SAID he wasn’t coming back until the shoulder felt 100% so……maybe? just maybe…..he feels like it’s there (or so close he can play).
June 13th, 20115:39 pm
Not really fair to call Adam Dunn a mistake.
Sounds like Joe Simpson making fun of Florida for only having 13,000 ppl in the stands while Turner Field is only cramming in 13,001.
Come on DOB, id expect this from a woman (Carroll) but not you.
Deedle – I think what you saw was the entire team being happy for a teammate that is the definition of a hard working player that gives 100% all of the time. No one begrudged him because he was in a genuine slump that is a mystery to all athletes. He endured it without complaint.
Just about 10 minutes ago
No, it was live (or at least done today- from the park)
June 13th, 20115:40 pm
The Braves have been huggers for a long time…One of my faves was May 30th, 2007, when a Tim Hudson WP plated the go-ahead run for the Brewers in the bottom of the seventh. The score was 2-1, and Timmy and BMac were TICKED at themselves (Timmy leveled all the bubblegum in the dugout…). BMac came up to bat in the top of the eighth with the bases loaded, and drilled a 2-1 pitch to the right-centerfield gap for a bases clearing Double!
He then scored a run, and upon entering the dugout, Timmy gave him a BIG hug. The Braves won the game 9-3, Timmy got the deserved win, and BMac redeemed himself for the WP, which he thought he should have handled.
MAN, would I love to see that game again!
I seem to recall that Lowe after Sept 1st has been as money as any pitcher of the last 10 years. I’m okay with him being .500 and providing innings in the meantime.
njbraves – all i want andruw to do is pinch hit one time a game against a lefty reliever. his numbers against lefties are still quite good
June 13th, 20115:42 pm
As i understand it…..for “just a few extra dollars”, you can get the on-field and after game interviews (not sure how much). It was given to me free for three months because they screwed up starting my package on time. Trust me…..it wasn’t long….I was on the phone so fast that I only missed a coupla innings!
Boatdoc… I think Lowe wins 15 games, give or take, posts 200 innings, and has an ERA around 4.00. Seems to be what he does. And, yes, last season Lowe was the Braves’ money pitcher in the stretch.
June 13th, 20115:43 pm
Winning at a .572 clip (the current winning percentage) for the rest of the year will give the Braves 93 wins… I’ll take it.
I don’t know which of the radio guys it was, but when he said attendance at the second game was better than the first and started counting the fans one by one… that was funny.
If that offends you then I’d suggest sticking to Bible study and anything involving Richard Simmons.
June 13th, 20115:46 pm
I CHOSE to ignore that post (I’d expect this from a woman, etc.).
Blind Willie Mctell
Wow DOB, i was actually listening to that album earlier today….
Michael, The Abbreviation
why is alex gonzalez not playing? why is hicks playing, again? these are the answers the people wanna know!
June 13th, 20115:47 pm
@ Just Pateeeee
Gotta look into that. ‘preciate it!
June 13th, 20115:48 pm
I think Alex is just getting a day off. So Hicks is playing since he’ll be out.
Bay Area Steve
Do you folks watch the games, or just kinda listen in the background or something?
These guys hug so often that homophobes throughout the land are afraid to hug their families. They hug more often than audience members at the Oprah finale… more often than the women on the View.
OK, while I don’t know if any of those people hug, I do know the above isn’t funny. (Sorry, we can’t all be Murph.) And that the Braves hug each other. A lot.
Well done, sir. Wurlitzer well-awarded. Thanks, rich. Keep ‘er up. And, I vote for the picture of the kid in full game-face. And, that the picture be posted for us all to see (even if Lew has to get McFann to do it).
why is alex gonzalez not playing? why is hicks playing, again? these are the answers the people wanna know!
And DOB will provide them once he gets the answers and returns from the clubhouse.
June 13th, 20115:51 pm
Uggla was on Buck and Kincaide a little while ago, seems like a really nice, down to earth sort of guy. Definitely a team player. Watching him struggle so much I assumed he’d be kind of manic but he doesn’t come across that way at all. Seems like a friendly, level headed guy anyone would want as a teammate. He gave big props to Atlanta fans as well, in a well considered way rather than a generic thing any player might say.
June 13th, 20115:53 pm
It’s been fun watching JJ and Tommy make the next step to super stardom. I felt coming into Spring Training that they were both at the old “fork” in the road. Either step it up or plan on being a career journeyman innings eating 4 or 5 slot pitcher in several different teams rotation. I sure rooted for Kevin Millwood but he just never took that big step up. Next year or more likely, 2013, Beachy and Minor will no doubt be at that “fork” in their careers too. Fun to watch the players develop, dont you think? Go Braves.
Brave New World
The Braves have the 3rd best record in baseball so a dramatic move may not be in order (think Texiera trade). If Uggla continues to improve, and if Heyward and Prado are healthy, it’s like picking up 3 all stars for the rest of 2011. If we can get .260 – .280 with a .350 OBP from Schafer he needs to be our everyday centerfielder. Schafer is a huge plus defensively and he can steal 30+ bases.
June 13th, 20115:55 pm
Heyward’s already beginning a rehab assignment tonight for Triple-A Gwinnett at Indy. Wow
A combination shot of Chippersaidasterol and Olneydiatribozone.
June 13th, 20115:56 pm
I don’t see a problem with keeping both Schafer and Mclouth with the big club when Prado comes off the DL. The ability of Prado to play 3b, 2b and LF allows the braves to give Chipper, Uggla, Prado, Schafer, Heyward and Mclouth a day off every week which will keep them all fresh for the end of the year. The person who should be send down is either Mather or Conrad.
Ahh just what you’d expect from an AJC Braves blog. Talking about the players hugging. Nerds.
It IS fun watching the players develop and one of the main reasons we try to go to ST every year where they start being showcased in a smaller stadium.
June 13th, 20115:58 pm
Other than the sentimental reason of allowing Hicks to play in front of his hometown folks, I’m having a hard time figuring why he was called up instead of Wilkin Ramirez. Allof the Braves staring outfield is on the DL. Mather, Hinski, Hernandez, and Conrad all can play 3rd base if Chipper rests. Ramirez adds the needed more speed to lineup with rigthanded power that Young does not have. He also is a good outfielder with a good arm. When Braves leave Houston will Ramirez be called up and Hicks or Young be sent down. The guy was Detroit’s top ten prospect like Shafer was for the Braves. Give the kid a shot for a coupe of weeks and se what he can do. Maybe he takes advantage of it like Shafer has. If he does you’ve got a 5 tool player for cheap. Young is a feel good story but will be the victim of the “Peter Principle) as season goes on.
Different sport, but the Mavs just proved what a team can do against (3) “super stars.” Not exactly the same, but Heat fans sounded an awful lot like Philly fans when they assumed James, Wade, and Bosh would bring them a championship. The “4 aces” of Philadelphia have similar over-amped expectations, although the Philles’ pitchers are not arrogant like LeBron and Wade.
June 13th, 20116:00 pm
Since they’re not expecting Prado back for the rest of this month, there shouldn’t BE a problem until then at least. Also gives Shafer a bit more time to increase his batting average if he can.
Murph @ 5:43, I heard that same thing on the radio; it was Jim Powell counting the Marlins fans one by one, and it was hilarious!
@ Oregon Brave
To paraphrase Yogi, “I hope when they get to the fork, they take it.”
June 13th, 20116:01 pm
I’ve been out of town the last week and a half, and haven’t really been able to keep up on the blog comments, but are we still time warping, or did that get fixed?
June 13th, 20116:02 pm
@ Dennis Reynolds
Next time we want to hear from an @ss, we’ll fart.
June 13th, 20116:03 pm
June 13th, 20116:04 pm
No fair!!! You just made me spit my beer!!!!!
June 13th, 20116:05 pm
Braves are 9-5 in Lowe’s starts (.643 winning pct) this year, and 48-33 (.593) for his time in Atlanta.
Frankly, I don’t care if it’s run support, luck, the alignment of the stars, or some league-wide conspiracy to make him a success. He toes the rubber every five days, and more often than not, the Braves win when he pitches.
Makes no sense to trade him during the season. :You cannot assume that kind of record with a rookie like Minor or Teheran, and a couple of games could (probably will) make a big difference.
June 13th, 20116:06 pm
Aaaaw. Sorry. That’s worse than sneezing Pepsi.
Dennis, if you’re here on the blog who is commenting on the news stories? You didn’t leave the kid that eats paste in charge, did you?
June 13th, 20116:07 pm
Thanks for the new blog, DOB. Interesting reading.
. If we can get .260 – .280 with a .350 OBP from Schafer he needs to be our everyday centerfielder. Schafer is a huge plus defensively and he can steal 30+ bases.
Well, yes if he can hit .260 – .280 with a .350 OBP he should be the CFer. But he has never done that even in the minors. If he has a line like he does now (.222 /.319 /.270 /..589 ), he belongs in the minor leagues to see if he can improve enough to be a MLB hitter.
And no he can’t steal 30+ bases. He never has, even in the minors. And his stolen base success rate is 63%. You have to have 75% to be a help to the team.
June 13th, 20116:08 pm
Checking in from the Best Western (marrow) we went by Turner field today on our way to the Georgia aquarium…..I am super stoked for the Mets series.The Braves look to be on a roll lately.
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a go!)
June 13th, 20116:10 pm
June 13th, 20116:11 pm
Oh yeah, that’s right—THANKS FOR FIXING THE TIMEWARP!!!
Sweet! Thanks, Pat. That’s good to hear. That time warp was making it difficult to keep blog conversations going…
Jordan Schafer is on pace to steal fifty bases.
June 13th, 20116:13 pm
Just a simple observation:
Of the hundreds of blogs I’ve read since they became popular, this one by far has the highest average number of knowledgeable members. All blogs have outright dumbos, and we get our share. Many of the jerks think that by changing their handle nobody will recognize them, but their style usually gives them away.
In any case, I appreciate DOB’s work making this available.
June 13th, 20116:14 pm
You mean we play Houston the rest of the year? Maybe he can with those catchers.
June 13th, 20116:16 pm
June 13th, 20116:17 pm
Can’t claim to be all that knowledgeable but I AM a huge Braves fan, watch the games, listen to the announcers and read these blogs and comments. Don’t usually waste my time visiting other sites so can’t really compare, but, yes….appreciate both DIB and CR’s efforts on our behalf.
Beachy makes rehab start Thursday for Triple-A Gwinnett, then another on Jun3 21, could be activated after that if all goes well.
June 13th, 20116:18 pm
DOB (not DIB)
Actually, Schafer has 9 stolen bases. The umpires blew two calls at 2B where he was safe.
June 13th, 20116:19 pm
all our players are in rehab. no wonder we’re not in first place.
June 13th, 20116:20 pm
I chose to ignore that comment as well (about expecting this from a woman). Besides, most of what I wanted to say is unprintable
June 13th, 20116:21 pm
Deedle Nick: Yogi was certainly one of a kind with many gems. By the way, I like your moniker. Back in the way back years I might have been called something similar. Can’t remember for sure.
Heyward will play next 2 days for Triple-A Gwinnett, which is off Wed. It’s possible — possible — could rejoin big club as soon as Wednesday or Thursday, but that just depends upon how he feels. Might stay with Gwinnett a little longer.
I won’t be shocked if he’s playing for Atlanta on Wednesday.
McLouth will begin a rehab assignment real soon, too.
June 13th, 20116:22 pm
With everyone healthy, I’d go with the following 13 position players:
Catcher (2) McCann, Ross
First (1) Freeman
3rd (1) Chipper
SS (2) Gonzalez, Hernandez
2B (2) Uggla, Conrad
OF (5) Schafer, Heyward, Prado, McLouth, Hinske
Prado and Hinske each can back up 1st and 3rd for the extra infielder flexibility. I could be convinced to swap Mather for Conrad since Hernandez can also back up 2B. (I would choose Mather over Young for power, defense, and because he’s right-handed)
June 13th, 20116:23 pm
Just Pat, cabravesfan, McFann, etc… all way more valuable to the blog than one Dennis Reynolds. He must have mommy issues… don’t worry about him.
I asked Fredi about playing McLouth and Schafer in same outfield with Heyward, and he made it sound like that’s strong possibility. Said he knows Schafer can play left field, but wasn’t sure if McLouth has any experience there, so he didn’t know who’d play left. But he said that’s why they made sure to play Schafer in all three OF spots in spring.
June 13th, 20116:24 pm
Shaun @ 5:13 you know how to take the wind out of a sail lol.
Sorry that I and it seems others enjoy seeing random good stats over random bad stats..such a flaw as a fan I know. (rolls eyes)
RJB in DC
June 13th, 20116:27 pm
In looking at Schafer so far in this year’s stint with the big team, what impresses me (besides his ability to steal bases) is his willingness to finally take what a pitcher is giving him. So far, in his 63 AB’s, of his 16 hits, 14 are for singles. He has nine walks and nine K’s.
It is a small sample size, but looking at his AAA numbers, he only K’ed 28 times in 168 at bats.
He is certainly not looking like the K-machine of 2009, where almost one-third of his AB’s ended in strikeouts.
June 13th, 20116:28 pm
If the Braves trade Lowe to the Yankees, who might we get in return? Wonder if we could include McLousy?
O yea I almost forgot about this!!!!!!!!!!
As some already know Jose Constanza is enjoying a career season in 2011. He’s hitting .356 with an OBP of .396, while stealing 17 bags.
However, his last ten games have been super human. The speedster is hitting an unbelievable .523 while recording six multi-hit games. What’s even more astonishing is his three 4 hit games while reaching base safely in all ten games played. The kid is smoking hot right now!
June 13th, 20116:33 pm
cab & Murph
I always consider the source when deciding to respond or not to certain comments. He…….not worth even considering!
I made an amazing batch of chili tonight… it’s delicious!
June 13th, 20116:35 pm
@Deedle Nick: Don’t forget: tomorrow we are ALL big Marlins fans. LOL
June 13th, 20116:36 pm
Youre not helping your case making jokes like that.
I understand some of the allure of having Schafer in the outfield with Mclouth, but wouldn’t the offense be better served overall if Hinske was in the line up more than Jordan. OBP is about the same for both, but Hinske is 215 pts higher in slugging and 50 pts higher in average. Of course Jordan will steal you some bases, but I rather have someone who will drive in more runs.
June 13th, 20116:39 pm
“I don’t think DOB ever draws conclusions, though he points out stats in small stretches of games. I think he’s more doing it to show realities, not to say “this stretch of games, means the Braves are destined for 100 wins”…or “100 losses”…or whatever.”
Really? You think?
Just maybe he does it to illustrate recent history…you know…kind of like “Who’s Hot” and “Who’s Not”..
Small sample size, but DOES illustrate recent history quite well. Understand now?
keylargo- And no he can’t steal 30+ bases. He never has, even in the minors.
In fairness, due to injuries and other issues, he really has only had one “full” season in the minors (2007). That year, in 136 games, he had 23 stolen bases.
In his best year (2008), McLouth had 23 stolen bases in 152 games.
I got gout
June 13th, 20116:42 pm
When Chippa talks…people listen.
I love Hinske as a 4th OF. I think as Schafer should continue to get every possible shot to be the every day CF with McLouth, Hinske and Mather rotating for in and out for the other 2 spots until Prado and Heyward are back.
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