Who is Chipper to question some one’s toughness? After all the little bits and pieces he’s been through and still wants to take a spot on the DL. Haha.
It’s better for Heyward to be 100% than to be at 0% near the play offs! Let him rest. Heyward isn’t a life saver when in the line up anyways. Braves offense just stinks right now.
This won’t be popular and most will disagree…but for me, this is the kind of story that I wish the AJC would just put in its pocket, or save for the book about the championship 2011 season 10 years from now. Chipper is going to be Chipper…catch him at the right time and he’s got no filter…anyone who has followed this team knows that (remember Chipper and Smoltz). As it stands, this story divides the fans…and could even be detrimental to the team.
Chipper said Braves need Heyward on the field like Heyward’s making a fraction of what he, Uggla, & McLouth makes. Braves need moneyball offense. How about Chiiper, McLouth, and Uggla give up their contractsso we can pay better players or players in their prime. With More Money Comes More Responsibility. Take it chipper, don’t deflect it. Pretty sad of Chipper to call out Heyward befor ehe even call ut Uggla. Lol
I won’t argue with Chipper, he has always had my total respect. But Heyward was hitting under .220 and that is not him. I would rather have a back up hitting .260 helping the team more until Jason is ready. We all know this is a star in waiting and hid numbers will be super when he is healthy.
The part I liked is when Chipper called out Wren – about “going out and getting somebody.”. That is the concern right now. I don’t believe Mclouth. Heyward, or Uggla will do anything the rest of the season.
Everyone was killing Jason for not producing before DL and now are killing him b/c he is trying to get healthy and actually contribute. If he came back now, still not able to swing, and producing same results people would be killing him still…the kid can’t win. If he’s not able to produce at a high level I don’t want him back. I feel the same way about Chipper…I don’t care if he’s out there limping and being tough if he doesn’t produce. Craziness
I will only say that every player is different when it comes to playing with injuries. While a lot of players will play through much worse than what Heyward is going through, nobody knows the exact pain that Heyward is experiencing. All I know is that if Heyward continues down this course the rest of his career, he will be remembered as a BUST.
When Heyward was in the lineup trying to play through the injury, he was criticized. Now he’s trying to get healthy and he’s being criticized.
You can’t have it both ways people. You have to pick one and stick to it.
Chipper, when John Smoltz called you out because of your ongoing hang nails, your didn’t like it, so why would you do it to a team mate?
Could it be, you want the focus off of you 0 fors, and looking your age at the plate?
Maybe when Jason gets to 80%, he’ll rejoin the team. Right now, maybe he’s less than 80%
Besides, the Jason that was on the field before being placed on the disable list, was 4 for 41 (.098) with 15 strikeouts in May. That is not going to help the Braves. They have enough of those performances in the lineup already!!!!
Let Heyward do a rehab stint in Gwinett and keep him there. Cat’s not ready. Maybe the toughness will come but he cannot hit big league pitching. DOB please don’t delete
Chipper’s contract restructure benefitted him just as much or more than it helped the Braves. He essentially deferred money to a later date, and had his contract extended.
While an honorable move to restructure, it’s not like he lost any money doing it, so let’s not make it sound like he did. He lost, nor gave up any cash that was due him.
Chipper has always been a media darling. His stats alone are Hall of Fame worthy, but Chipper has never taken any chances knowing the writers vote on who gets into the Hall. Still, Chipper needs to keep this one in the clubhouse. Bush league move by a future Hall of Famer.
Chipper speaks the truth. If the MRI shows normal wear & tear then Jason needs to suck it up and play. If he can’t play thru soreness in May then he’s got no shot to stick around the majors for long.
Chipper is right!
Chipper passed my long-time idol, Mickey Mantle, in RBIs recently. Mickey accumulated 15 fractures over the years, blew out his knees (both of them, twice), tore the labrum in his throwing shoulder and suffered from osteomyeletis. Yet, The Mick played over 142 games for 12 of his 18 years. He was taped from shoulder to ankle every game, toward the end, and every pitcher feared his at bats. He played with pain that most players would not. Yet, Mickey still played.
Heyward wants to be one of the best in the game, or so he says, but is unwilling to play with pain.
Chipper plays with pain and he is going to the Hall of Fame. Mickey Mantle played with pain and is in the Hall of Fame.
It seems Heyward may have the talent, but he doesn’t have the love of the game, or the cojones, to play through the pain. It’s a shame that he’ll never be remembered with Chipper or The Mick.
If you ask me, it’s a bad choice. Get off your duff, J Hey!
Here is my deal with Jayson. He hurt his thumb last year sliding head first and missed time with that as well as going long periods without producing. that’s what cost him the Rookie of the year. So what’s he doing again this year? Sliding head first which is probably how he hurt his shoulder in the first.Learn from your mistakes and quit showboating.
I find it very disturbing that someone his age is getting the injuries he has and not recovering quickly. It says a lot about the person when “bumps and bruises” linger to the point where it keeps them out of the lineup for so long.
Chipper is right, get healthy and back in the lineup and produce.
Stop concentrating on the pain and discomfort.
DOB, what say you? Buster seems to think this has the chance to divide the locker room… — Sid Slid
That’s not what Buster said. He said that HEYWARD has a lot at stake with his teammates right now. Buster never wrote anything at all about teammates taking sides on this, or it dividing the clubhouse. Unless you saw something else that he wrote that I missed, in which case, please point it out. I’d like to see it.
I suspect that the point being made is don’t wait for 100%. Players and doctors can argue the various percentages but Heyward needs to get back soon, and the 100% comment doesn’t sit well. Forget Chipper playing through his injuries and think about McCann, Shafer, etc. They’re hurt and yet a decision is made to play.
No one wants Heyward to damage his shoulder. They just want him to be willing to play with some discomfort. That is the role of a major league player. Heyward has to find the balance point but its not 100%.
This is the entertainment business, and the show must go on. That is what justifies the huge salaries, and makes these guys into idols. Jason is new to it, and he said something he shouldn’t have said. I have no doubt he will play hurt because he has. It was the comment about 100% that caused the issue.
All of that said, I also respect Uggla for putting on the uniform and playing every day. No doubt he could fake an injury and avoid the press but he keeps trying to contribute to his team. That’s why I am confident he will work through his issues and start producing runs.
I agree with Chipper. And for those of you who say that he should not go to the papers and say it to his face, I’m pretty sure someone has said something. The way Chipper was talking about it in the article, this is not something that just came off the top of his head. If I am on that team I am asking myself why he won’t at least try. He should have been hitting off a tee at least at this point.
Stop trying to baby JHey. Dirk Nowitzki goes out against the Miami Heat last night with a tendon tear in his finger and a 102 degree fever. Also, anyone remember when Schilling had surgery on his ankle in the clubhouse at Yankee Stadium in the ALCS. “The bloody sock game.” He gutted it out for the team. Come on Heyward, this is getting ridiculous. Instead of tweeting during the game how about you try to get in there and do something. Let us do the tweeting.
why would Jason three rehab games for his legs… surely he has been running, working out his legs to stay in close to game shape? maybe it would be a test of the shoulder in game situations for three days to be sure he is ready to come off the DL rather than start a new clock in Atlanta
Larry first ballot jones can say what he wants. You ignorant fans who dont know squat m this is what you do a leader like chipper excuse me first ballot jones is telling the truth to a youngster who needs to hear it from someone like him, oh yah by the hes first ballot.
Hmm – didn’t seem too long ago when Smoltz called out Chipper for the same thing. I do think that if Heyward is 80%, get him out there, but not if it is going to make his injury worse. I guess it depends on the injury. I don’t think we have a JD Drew on our hands. Heyward is a gamer. Maybe Chipper should keep it in the clubhouse.
Right on Chipper! Good to see that you still consider yourself the leader of this Braves team!
Now get rid of the “Mohawk” along with the rest of those trying to “make a statement”…..Uggla, et.al….and get back to some Bobby Cox discipline and PLAY BALL like all you guys are capable of doing! Fredi and Frank seem to think we are the Florida Marlins. We are not. We are the Atlanta Braves and PROUD OF IT. Now PLAY HARD and make us proud of you!!
Wow, how is Chipper going to complain about someone playing threw injuries. For like the last five years the guy has stayed on the DL. Wasn’t it last year or the year before that he was complaining about playing to much during a playoff race?
The Braves never will win anything as long as Larry Wayne Jones is part of the team. He is a big reason for the failures since 1995. To many on this blog he is the Golden Man but I call him what he is full of, Golden Bull.
All of you people whining about Chipper calling him out in the media need to wise up. Heyward hasn’t earned anything in the major leagues and if Chipper feels like he needs to call him out to wake him up, good for him. Nothing impacts a young player ( and Heyward still is) like the leader of the team and a Hall of Famer calling him out. I don’t think Chipper cares one bit if he hurts his feelings or not. He’ll have to get over it. Chipper has more than earned the right. Apparently this guy is a great hitter but is made out of glass and is not tough enough to play through pain and be effective. Maybe he learns that as he matures.
Heyward is a 6′-5″ baby. He was last year and he is again this year. Prado is banged up and hates to miss a game; Chipper has a torn meniscus and hates to miss a game; B Mac is a banged up catcher and is the best player on the team; the list goes on. Jason is one of the newer/younger generation of kids who are entitled to everything and it leads to him and his generation to being divas for the most part. The kid has unbelievable talent, but we will be discussing his propensity to sit out for minor “knick-knack” injuries his entire career.
Thanks for the update, Dave. I figured something was up with Jason. Is he pouting about something? Is that the reason he doesn’t want to return till he’s 100%?
One would have to assume that Chipper had this conversation with Jason already but that it didn’t get through to Jason. If that was not the case, I don’t like Chipper calling Jason out like this in public. When Jason comes back, hopefully he’ll take a slightly different approach to his game – sliding headfirst, diving for balls in the outfield, etc. – seeing as how he seems to be somewhat injury prone.
Again, why would anyone want a player, that is playing at “80%”, and producing at a rate of 20% of his capabilities, over a player that is playing at 100%, and producing 80 to 100% of what he is capable of doing, at the plate?
Heyward was not helping the team, when he was playing injured.
Chipper said what most YOUNG ADULTS need to hear. These kids have been coddled all of their lives and being an adult is still foreign to them.
Most of you that are fussing at Chipper for saying what he said are probably directly the reason we have kids growing up like Jason is. Parents are afraid to make their kids tough, because they are too concerned about their children’s self esteem.
You can’t protect your kids from pain, but what you do is to teach them to be strong enough to survive it.
Chipper did what he needed to do. He called Jason out and made him feel a little peer pressure. Of course Jason won’t like it, but it will make him a better person. For those of you who don’t like what Chipper said, then quit fussing every time an athlete whines.
I am surprised that some of these ‘oldsters’ don’t finish their comments with, “back in my younger days, we had to walk ten miles to get to school, it was uphill both ways, and we had to fight the Indians coming and going”.
I agree with Chipper…. but isn’t Heyward almost back already? He’d have to make a couple rehab starts anyway. Seems that this would have a lot more relevance if it were a week or more ago.
[...] play until he is 100% percent. Chipper Jones has expressed frustration when he commented to Atlanta Journal-Constitution that Heyward needs to realize how important he is to the Braves, even if he isn’t 100 [...]
Some people are so busy trying to be critical of players (Heyward) that they make themselves sound as stupid as they really are. The braves must have a medical staff to evaluate injuries but yet all the high school dropouts think they are more prepared to make a decision on whether Heyward is hurt or not. There are more serious problems on this team than Heyward’s injury. Last year it was T P’s fault for the lack of hitting and he was bashed daily. Well, where are the bashers now? The current lack of hitting coach barely get a mention when the subject of poor hitting is mentioned. Until they solve that problem I guess Heyward will be the player to bash, and oh yes please tell chipper that there are other players in the lineup that needs some of his leadership guidance if he is up to it.
Heyward is NOT a gamer. Tim Hudson is a gamer. Jordan Schafer is a gamer. Martin Prado is the definition of a gamer. A guy who is constantly injured and taking days off at age 21 is not a gamer.
I like Heyward but he needs to start hitting off a tee today, play in a couple of rehab games this weekend and return on Monday. The team needs him.
Chipper is one of my favorite Braves of all time, but I think he messed up in this instance. First, he should not have “called out” Heyward publicly even if he felt that way (nence the old mantra, praise publicly, but criticize privately). Second, he should trust the medical advice that Heyward is receiving … if Heyward is going to risk aggravating the injury and having it be a lingering thing all year (or worse), then the extra week spent recovering now is well worth it and well advised. If on the other hand, it really is fully healed, then Heyward probably needs to accelerate his timetable for getting back out there as the team does need him and has missed him greatly.
I have been on Chipper from time to time throughout the years about the injuries but the dude is gutting it out this year with a bad knee and a hurt groin! I have absolutely no problem with Chipper calling Jason out.
Heyward is a great talent! So was Bob Horner. Now I am not saying that Heyward is Horner by any means but if I were the Braves I would fine Heyward every time he slides head first. Both injuries (thumb and shoulder) were caused or made worse by sliding head first.
JHey, you are one of the lucky few who get into pro baseball. Give off your butt and help this team win!!!!
What’s odd about this is prior to Heyward going on the DL everybody was saying that Jason should be DL’d until he could get healthy enough to play. It wasn’t just fans saying that it was guys in the media (writers, Chip, Joe, and other analyst) and I even remember some of the players saying it would be good for Jason to rest his shoulder and get back healthy.
So now the script has changed? Figures. I remember a few years back both Smoltz and Brian Jordan called Chipper out on some of his “injuries” and he b****ed about it. While I understand wanting to get Jason back out on the field sooner rather than later this team is still somehow winning games – now in 2nd place and only 3 games back of the Phillies? No need to rush him back! Get the rest of the team to hitting (DAN UGGLA) and maybe we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
I could understand it if the Braves had dropped 6 to 7 games back but come on… keep playing ball and get the guys that’s currently on the team back to hitting – that includes you Chipper.
Jason is finding out that there is a difference between high school and major league baseball.
I’m not sure that he wants to play at the professional level. His reasons are turning into excuses.
That is sad considering what he could become.
Heyward is in a no win situation right now. If he comes back to early and he is not 100% and he sucks like he did in May then most fans will be all over him calling him a bust. And if he waits and heals until he comes back close to 100%, most fans call him soft and a bust. I am sure if it was September he would play thru it or if he thought he could help the team out. In my opinion Ski and Mather are better in rf than a 70% Heyward.
That’s not what Buster said. He said that HEYWARD has a lot at stake with his teammates right now. Buster never wrote anything at all about teammates taking sides on this, or it dividing the clubhouse. Unless you saw something else that he wrote that I missed, in which case, please point it out. I’d like to see it. – DOB
Re Buster’s comments. He tweeted this morning: “I do think that the forthcoming weeks are going to be important in how Heyward is perceived by his teammates; there is frustration there.”
You’re right. Dividing the clubhouse may be a little strong. But I think you and Buster both pick up on a sense of frustration inside the clubhouse that Heyward can’t seem to stay in the lineup. Maybe it’s just Chipper who feels that way, although if it reached a point where he felt the need to speak out on it publicly, I would guess not. You would obviously know better. Personally, I think it’s just part of a process of discovering the difference between being hurt and not being able to play, and Heyward will be fine in the long term.
It sounds like a lot of people would like to see Heyward play with an inflamed labrum so he can tear it and be out for a few years. A month or so, or a year or more – how long would we rather have him out? Nobody can feel another person’s pain, and one person’s sore knee is not the same as another person’s sore shoulder ( or any other injured body part ). Chipper and every one else need to get off their high horses and stop preaching about something they know nothing about! Take care of your own body!
I have to agree with Chipper~ I mean~ Think Mickey Mantle~ Aaron~ Gherig~
Mays etc…….. I seriously doubt Mantle would DL himself over something like this!
He finished with pretty good career numbers didnt he? Course~ Heyward is NO
Mantle!! Why? ………. because he’s hurting so badly?
Tell us Wren, is Heyward injured or just sore? There’s a big difference. If he’s just sore he needs to be out there. If he’s injured, tell us what is the injury.
Anon21, if you have to resort to name calling, then that says all I need to know about you and whatever argument you have.
I wholeheartedly agree with an earlier post about if this wasn’t Heyward, a lot of folks would be acting differently. He is the next big thing, and people want him to be so good that they don’t want to hear anything negative. That’s fine, I am the same way, but don’t lose the forrest for the trees.
And that is my biggest point. Too many folks on here are reacting like it’s CHIPPER’S comments that will divide the team. No. It’s HEYWARD’S actions that led to something happening on the team, read between the lines. Which led to Chipper, feeling the need to express this publicly. HEYWARD is the one who can divide this team or unite it with how he responds to the TEAM’S apparent problem with his comments, and approach to injury. Don’t shoot the messenger, Chipper.
Hmmmm………. quick think fast, who’s the 1st Brave that comes to mind thats always taking the day off or is on the DL??? Chipper….. bingo! He is the LAST one to question if someone is hurt, what you think the dude doesnt want to be playing? Only Heyward knows for sure how he is feeling, so Larry just play out your part time role this year & please ride off to your ranch after this year, we need your 13 mill per to sign a STUD 3rd sacker that STILL has power & can play everyday, thanks for your years of service though, see ya!!!!!!!!!!
Heyward is just another Braves has been or never was. Its in the fine print of everyone’s contract these days. When you come to the Braves, you must promise to forget how to hit. Its mandatory! Only Prado and Hinske cheat from time to time and that will catch up to them. Unbelievable how these major leaguers can become complete wastes at the plate. On paper, these guys look like a better club than Phila but they love striking out. Prado is terrific! Heyward should be trade bait. McLouth and Mather need GONE! Lance Parrish GONE! Chipper WAS great……GONE! This team is nothing but two giant question marks…….What Happened? What do we do from here? Hitless wonders can make any pitcher look terrific. Where are LaRoche, Infante, Frenchy and Andrue when you need them?
What if Jason goes out there not 100%, and further worsens the injury, making him out for an even longer time, then what? Chipper gets hurts feilding a ground ball, so he needs to worry about himself. Its a long season people, let the man get 100%. Chipper just needs to step his game up while Heyward is out. Nobody aint hittin except Prado anyway. Chipper worry about yourself. Jason, come back when you are healthy
all the medical doctors say its normal wear and tear,so if you go by the doctors he is not really hurt ,now is he?i think mlb should be looking into this,as this sounds like someone is covering up for heyward.
June 8th, 2011
2:23 pm
What if Jason goes out there not 100%, and further worsens the injury, making him out for an even longer time, then what
WHAT F INJURY DO YOU THINK THIS PERSON HAS?THE DOC IN CA,AND ATL.TWICE TOLD HIM ITS NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR.TELL ME WHERE YOU SEE THAT JASON HEYWARD IS OUT WITH A SHOULDER INJURY,WTF?????FUNNY HOW HEYWARD BEEN TWEETING ALL THE TIME,AND PLAYING BBALL IN FLA.,HE COMES BACK WHEN THE HEAT SERIES IS OVER NOT UNTIL THEN.
Heyward is 21. Chipper is 39. The difference in baseball and life experience is enormous. Anyone who has ever worked with people that young knows you have to cuff them once in a while to get their attention. That’s all it is.
Damn people Chipper is an HOFer and we should be proud he stood with us for 20 years. I know I am. He is older and not in his prime but he hit 300 last year. Chipper has never spoken bad about the fans like Tom Glavine and Smoltz. Larry is sort of an everyman player and since my 28 year old daughter could cheer she has yelled for Chipper. These guys on here would talk bad about Warren Spahn if they had half a chance. Get those damn fish again tonight. I am going to see my daughter in Pittsburgh Saturday and I will be at PNC park Sunday to BEAT THE METS>
so why has fw,and fg not extended the dl then?this is against mlb rules and hope some gets fired over this.if he is off the dl ,someone is called down,but since he is not mkb is suppose to be notified.
We’ve saw what injured Heyward looks like last season & it ain’t pretty. Meanwhile, the sooner I never hear anything from the constantly crippled 3B, the last person on earth who ought to comment on anyone’s health, the happier I’ll be. Easily the most unlikable Brave since Justice & at this point he’s getting pretty close to that.
With young Jason Heyward being the only African-American on a team in the chocolate city of Atlanta, there’s a lot of unnecessary pressure being placed on him.
The likes of a cracker Floridian like Chipper Jones calling him out in the news media is very telling, and further indicative of the racial unrest in the Braves’ organization. Not one African-American was interviewed for Bobby Cox’s job.
June 8th, 2011
2:47 pm
With young Jason Heyward being the only African-American on a team in the chocolate city of Atlanta, there’s a lot of unnecessary pressure being placed on him.
The likes of a cracker Floridian like Chipper Jones calling him out in the news media is very telling, and further indicative of the racial unrest in the Braves’ organization. Not one African-American was interviewed for Bobby Cox’s job.
Keep hope alive, Atlanta
Name a single one from the mets
Go call out the NAACP Who gives a chit?This is not the NFL,NO GO NOW,THE COTTON IN THE FIELDS IS READY TO BE PICKIN
PS.Don’t forget to stop by the kfc on the way,and also stop and get a watermelon also.
Chipper Jones before his meniscus tear: .275/.366/.465
Chipper Jones after his meniscus tear: .211/.318/.316
So how is Chipper Jones helping the team “grinding it out” playing on one leg? Wouldn’t it be better if Jones got he knee taken care of, came back in 4-to-6 weeks, and let someone else hit? Because I’m pretty sure whomever they called up from AAA could do at least .211/.318/.316.
This team gets bitten again and again by players concealing injuries to “help the team”. Shaffer. Jurrjens. Heyward last season. I’m glad Heyward has the smarts to learn from last season and make sure that when he comes back, he’s actually healthy enought to contribute.
As for Chipper, he’ll always be a favorite, but he’s way off base on this one.
Judging by the comments to my statement of fact, perhaps a peaceful, but loud demonstration at Turner Field would be productive. My friend Al Sharpton and Georgia-favorite Carlos Santana would add some credibility to such an event.
Lets check the Bravos DL stats for the last 5 years: the undisputed leader is??? Yes, Larry Wayne Jones, any questions? Any you morons who think Heyward is soft, you wanna tell him that personally? I didnt think so!!!
For you folks that keep saying “he shouldn’t play with an injury” blah blah……… he does not have an INJURY!!! Tests prove it. He has “discomfort”. Baby JHey needs to MAN UP and quit milking the gravy train.
I love Chipper and glad he has some fire in him and speaking out..but he is WRONG when it comes to Heyward.The guy needs to come back 100%, not 10%, not even 90% or he is risking his entire career…why do you think Tiger isnt playing in the us open…He is thinking long term. Same with J-Hey
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[...] Heyward has pronounced he did not wish to lapse until he’s totally healthy. Jones, 39, told a Atlanta Journal-Constitution that a second-year slugger needs to comprehend how critical he is to a Braves, even if he [...]
LMAO!! Larry Jones calling someone out about not playing when he is hurt. This crybaby has missed more games the past 3 or 4 years than any player in the N.L. He goes on the D.L if he has a belly ache. He is no leader, because a leader leads by example, which means a leader plays hurt, this big crybaby has never played hurt a day in his life. So don’t call someone else out Larry, when he is doing exactly what the so-called leader of the team does, and that is sit out when he is hurt. Larry Jones needs to take his big salary and back stabbing comments with him right out of town. If the braves had his salary, uggla’s salary, and Lowe’s salary, they could buy a couple of big bats and win the National League. Wishful hoping for braves fans!
what we have here is an abreviation and utter attemps to destroy my brother… i comes before you to file an injunction against the haters of my people and we shall overcome this attempted destruction of my only black brother on the braves…..if this does not cease we shall have a march on turner field
Chipper is a fraud. Go back and read his comments when John Smoltz said the same things about him when he was a 10 year vet not a 2nd year player. If the Braves need a 2nd year player that is not one of the top paid players, so badly, that sounds like an organizational problem to me.
What an idiotic statement by Crapper. Jason was helping us about as much as Dan Uggla.. He was 4 for 41 in May. Now he will be healthy with us only 1 game back in the wild card.
Now the future of the braves is at first base.So idiot said they should put Heyward at first.Do you really think he will stretch out to field a throw.Not a chance.Heyward is a wimp and so is the manager.They both need to grow a set and quit sharing a set.Uggla needs someone to take the bat away from him he needs to Voluntary go down to the minors and find his stroke.Wilkin Ramariez is highly overated and as much as I like hinskie I can see why he is a bench player he gives out too quickly.Chipper is a future HOF and he has the right to speak his mind.He took less to stay here and has helped the braves win many many games and is valuable even when he is not playing.I agree that maybe he should help with the hitting Coach because we don’t have much there.Our problem is Leadership in Management including Fredi.Hey Fredi grow some and show some fire get thrown out of a game kick some dirt throw a base destroy a water cooler, but get off your A…… and show some fire.
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Speaking the Truth
June 8th, 2011
10:46 am
Who is Chipper to question some one’s toughness? After all the little bits and pieces he’s been through and still wants to take a spot on the DL. Haha.
It’s better for Heyward to be 100% than to be at 0% near the play offs! Let him rest. Heyward isn’t a life saver when in the line up anyways. Braves offense just stinks right now.
DC Brave
June 8th, 2011
10:46 am
This won’t be popular and most will disagree…but for me, this is the kind of story that I wish the AJC would just put in its pocket, or save for the book about the championship 2011 season 10 years from now. Chipper is going to be Chipper…catch him at the right time and he’s got no filter…anyone who has followed this team knows that (remember Chipper and Smoltz). As it stands, this story divides the fans…and could even be detrimental to the team.
Pat Bound
June 8th, 2011
10:49 am
This sounds a lot like the comments Smoltz made about Chipper in 07 or 08 when Chipper sat out for 3 weeks with bruised palms.
Chi Town
June 8th, 2011
10:52 am
Good for Chipper.
Heyward needs to be called out.
Ray Ray
June 8th, 2011
10:52 am
I’d love to defend Jason but haven’t the doctors confirmed that there is nothing wrong with him?
Tracy
June 8th, 2011
11:01 am
Chipper said Braves need Heyward on the field like Heyward’s making a fraction of what he, Uggla, & McLouth makes. Braves need moneyball offense. How about Chiiper, McLouth, and Uggla give up their contractsso we can pay better players or players in their prime. With More Money Comes More Responsibility. Take it chipper, don’t deflect it. Pretty sad of Chipper to call out Heyward befor ehe even call ut Uggla. Lol
pcb mike
June 8th, 2011
11:08 am
I won’t argue with Chipper, he has always had my total respect. But Heyward was hitting under .220 and that is not him. I would rather have a back up hitting .260 helping the team more until Jason is ready. We all know this is a star in waiting and hid numbers will be super when he is healthy.
RonnieFranchise
June 8th, 2011
11:08 am
The part I liked is when Chipper called out Wren – about “going out and getting somebody.”. That is the concern right now. I don’t believe Mclouth. Heyward, or Uggla will do anything the rest of the season.
No hitting
June 8th, 2011
11:11 am
Chipper needs to leave his comments in the clubhouse, with JH, or with mgt. Didn’t he called out by Smoltz for doing the same thing?
Kevin
June 8th, 2011
11:13 am
Chipper called out Heyward so he can go on the DL. I would laugh so hard if the day Heyward returns that Chipper goes on the DL.
Sid Slid
June 8th, 2011
11:16 am
DOB, what say you? Buster seems to think this has the chance to divide the locker room…
Brandon
June 8th, 2011
11:17 am
Everyone was killing Jason for not producing before DL and now are killing him b/c he is trying to get healthy and actually contribute. If he came back now, still not able to swing, and producing same results people would be killing him still…the kid can’t win. If he’s not able to produce at a high level I don’t want him back. I feel the same way about Chipper…I don’t care if he’s out there limping and being tough if he doesn’t produce. Craziness
Hinske Da Man
June 8th, 2011
11:17 am
I will only say that every player is different when it comes to playing with injuries. While a lot of players will play through much worse than what Heyward is going through, nobody knows the exact pain that Heyward is experiencing. All I know is that if Heyward continues down this course the rest of his career, he will be remembered as a BUST.
Jay Dubu
June 8th, 2011
11:24 am
When Heyward was in the lineup trying to play through the injury, he was criticized. Now he’s trying to get healthy and he’s being criticized.
You can’t have it both ways people. You have to pick one and stick to it.
Chipper, when John Smoltz called you out because of your ongoing hang nails, your didn’t like it, so why would you do it to a team mate?
Could it be, you want the focus off of you 0 fors, and looking your age at the plate?
Maybe when Jason gets to 80%, he’ll rejoin the team. Right now, maybe he’s less than 80%
Besides, the Jason that was on the field before being placed on the disable list, was 4 for 41 (.098) with 15 strikeouts in May. That is not going to help the Braves. They have enough of those performances in the lineup already!!!!
Get healthy Heyward.
nomorecolincowherd
June 8th, 2011
11:33 am
Let Heyward do a rehab stint in Gwinett and keep him there. Cat’s not ready. Maybe the toughness will come but he cannot hit big league pitching. DOB please don’t delete
Speaking the Truth
June 8th, 2011
11:36 am
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2914283&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
Chipper and Smoltz done the same thing….
Jay Dubu
June 8th, 2011
11:39 am
@chpatt,
Chipper’s contract restructure benefitted him just as much or more than it helped the Braves. He essentially deferred money to a later date, and had his contract extended.
While an honorable move to restructure, it’s not like he lost any money doing it, so let’s not make it sound like he did. He lost, nor gave up any cash that was due him.
Brave New World
June 8th, 2011
11:42 am
Chipper has always been a media darling. His stats alone are Hall of Fame worthy, but Chipper has never taken any chances knowing the writers vote on who gets into the Hall. Still, Chipper needs to keep this one in the clubhouse. Bush league move by a future Hall of Famer.
chc4
June 8th, 2011
11:48 am
Chipper speaks the truth. If the MRI shows normal wear & tear then Jason needs to suck it up and play. If he can’t play thru soreness in May then he’s got no shot to stick around the majors for long.
Jay Dubu
June 8th, 2011
11:52 am
@mark,
So does Melky, tied in HR, but neither were able to do it for the Braves before being moved, so what does that tell you.
Is it the AL, the fact that they’re playing for KC with no expectations, or that they just got better as players?
What say you?
Fourbee
June 8th, 2011
12:08 pm
Chipper is right!
Chipper passed my long-time idol, Mickey Mantle, in RBIs recently. Mickey accumulated 15 fractures over the years, blew out his knees (both of them, twice), tore the labrum in his throwing shoulder and suffered from osteomyeletis. Yet, The Mick played over 142 games for 12 of his 18 years. He was taped from shoulder to ankle every game, toward the end, and every pitcher feared his at bats. He played with pain that most players would not. Yet, Mickey still played.
Heyward wants to be one of the best in the game, or so he says, but is unwilling to play with pain.
Chipper plays with pain and he is going to the Hall of Fame. Mickey Mantle played with pain and is in the Hall of Fame.
It seems Heyward may have the talent, but he doesn’t have the love of the game, or the cojones, to play through the pain. It’s a shame that he’ll never be remembered with Chipper or The Mick.
If you ask me, it’s a bad choice. Get off your duff, J Hey!
Henry D.
June 8th, 2011
12:10 pm
Here is my deal with Jayson. He hurt his thumb last year sliding head first and missed time with that as well as going long periods without producing. that’s what cost him the Rookie of the year. So what’s he doing again this year? Sliding head first which is probably how he hurt his shoulder in the first.Learn from your mistakes and quit showboating.
You are too valuable to this team.
tmc
June 8th, 2011
12:11 pm
it’s about time for Mr. Heyward to toughen up.
I find it very disturbing that someone his age is getting the injuries he has and not recovering quickly. It says a lot about the person when “bumps and bruises” linger to the point where it keeps them out of the lineup for so long.
Chipper is right, get healthy and back in the lineup and produce.
Stop concentrating on the pain and discomfort.
David O'Brien
June 8th, 2011
12:14 pm
DOB, what say you? Buster seems to think this has the chance to divide the locker room… — Sid Slid
That’s not what Buster said. He said that HEYWARD has a lot at stake with his teammates right now. Buster never wrote anything at all about teammates taking sides on this, or it dividing the clubhouse. Unless you saw something else that he wrote that I missed, in which case, please point it out. I’d like to see it.
Mark (another one)
June 8th, 2011
12:14 pm
I suspect that the point being made is don’t wait for 100%. Players and doctors can argue the various percentages but Heyward needs to get back soon, and the 100% comment doesn’t sit well. Forget Chipper playing through his injuries and think about McCann, Shafer, etc. They’re hurt and yet a decision is made to play.
No one wants Heyward to damage his shoulder. They just want him to be willing to play with some discomfort. That is the role of a major league player. Heyward has to find the balance point but its not 100%.
This is the entertainment business, and the show must go on. That is what justifies the huge salaries, and makes these guys into idols. Jason is new to it, and he said something he shouldn’t have said. I have no doubt he will play hurt because he has. It was the comment about 100% that caused the issue.
All of that said, I also respect Uggla for putting on the uniform and playing every day. No doubt he could fake an injury and avoid the press but he keeps trying to contribute to his team. That’s why I am confident he will work through his issues and start producing runs.
Austin
June 8th, 2011
12:19 pm
I agree with Chipper. And for those of you who say that he should not go to the papers and say it to his face, I’m pretty sure someone has said something. The way Chipper was talking about it in the article, this is not something that just came off the top of his head. If I am on that team I am asking myself why he won’t at least try. He should have been hitting off a tee at least at this point.
Stop trying to baby JHey. Dirk Nowitzki goes out against the Miami Heat last night with a tendon tear in his finger and a 102 degree fever. Also, anyone remember when Schilling had surgery on his ankle in the clubhouse at Yankee Stadium in the ALCS. “The bloody sock game.” He gutted it out for the team. Come on Heyward, this is getting ridiculous. Instead of tweeting during the game how about you try to get in there and do something. Let us do the tweeting.
Steve
June 8th, 2011
12:23 pm
I’ m glad Chipper stepped up because FG seems to be lost in his own little world.
bruce
June 8th, 2011
12:40 pm
why would Jason three rehab games for his legs… surely he has been running, working out his legs to stay in close to game shape? maybe it would be a test of the shoulder in game situations for three days to be sure he is ready to come off the DL rather than start a new clock in Atlanta
Braves Fan Since 1966
June 8th, 2011
12:40 pm
I’m for the Braves finding somebody who can hit a pitched ball hard consistently.
Larry "First Ballot" Jones
June 8th, 2011
12:45 pm
Larry first ballot jones can say what he wants. You ignorant fans who dont know squat m this is what you do a leader like chipper excuse me first ballot jones is telling the truth to a youngster who needs to hear it from someone like him, oh yah by the hes first ballot.
Larry "First Ballot" Jones
June 8th, 2011
12:46 pm
Ang Freddi G is the worst!
Joey
June 8th, 2011
12:49 pm
Pot, meet kettle.
Joey
June 8th, 2011
12:55 pm
The problem is, Larry, Chipper didn’t go tell Jason, he told the media, and guess who’s front page it it now on?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6640173
Creaky
June 8th, 2011
12:58 pm
Can anyone say Prima Dona?
jm_baldwin
June 8th, 2011
1:00 pm
Hmm – didn’t seem too long ago when Smoltz called out Chipper for the same thing. I do think that if Heyward is 80%, get him out there, but not if it is going to make his injury worse. I guess it depends on the injury. I don’t think we have a JD Drew on our hands. Heyward is a gamer. Maybe Chipper should keep it in the clubhouse.
Allen Lord
June 8th, 2011
1:02 pm
Right on Chipper! Good to see that you still consider yourself the leader of this Braves team!
Now get rid of the “Mohawk” along with the rest of those trying to “make a statement”…..Uggla, et.al….and get back to some Bobby Cox discipline and PLAY BALL like all you guys are capable of doing! Fredi and Frank seem to think we are the Florida Marlins. We are not. We are the Atlanta Braves and PROUD OF IT. Now PLAY HARD and make us proud of you!!
tremaine
June 8th, 2011
1:02 pm
Wow, how is Chipper going to complain about someone playing threw injuries. For like the last five years the guy has stayed on the DL. Wasn’t it last year or the year before that he was complaining about playing to much during a playoff race?
Rally
June 8th, 2011
1:03 pm
The Braves never will win anything as long as Larry Wayne Jones is part of the team. He is a big reason for the failures since 1995. To many on this blog he is the Golden Man but I call him what he is full of, Golden Bull.
kerryb
June 8th, 2011
1:05 pm
Enter your comments here
kerryb
June 8th, 2011
1:09 pm
All of you people whining about Chipper calling him out in the media need to wise up. Heyward hasn’t earned anything in the major leagues and if Chipper feels like he needs to call him out to wake him up, good for him. Nothing impacts a young player ( and Heyward still is) like the leader of the team and a Hall of Famer calling him out. I don’t think Chipper cares one bit if he hurts his feelings or not. He’ll have to get over it. Chipper has more than earned the right. Apparently this guy is a great hitter but is made out of glass and is not tough enough to play through pain and be effective. Maybe he learns that as he matures.
SeaAtl
June 8th, 2011
1:10 pm
Heyward is a 6′-5″ baby. He was last year and he is again this year. Prado is banged up and hates to miss a game; Chipper has a torn meniscus and hates to miss a game; B Mac is a banged up catcher and is the best player on the team; the list goes on. Jason is one of the newer/younger generation of kids who are entitled to everything and it leads to him and his generation to being divas for the most part. The kid has unbelievable talent, but we will be discussing his propensity to sit out for minor “knick-knack” injuries his entire career.
Mark's for the Braves
June 8th, 2011
1:10 pm
Thanks for the update, Dave. I figured something was up with Jason. Is he pouting about something? Is that the reason he doesn’t want to return till he’s 100%?
kerryb
June 8th, 2011
1:17 pm
SeaAtl, good comments. You are right. This is the WHY generation of big babies and whiners.
nique
June 8th, 2011
1:20 pm
One would have to assume that Chipper had this conversation with Jason already but that it didn’t get through to Jason. If that was not the case, I don’t like Chipper calling Jason out like this in public. When Jason comes back, hopefully he’ll take a slightly different approach to his game – sliding headfirst, diving for balls in the outfield, etc. – seeing as how he seems to be somewhat injury prone.
reckingball
June 8th, 2011
1:30 pm
Again, why would anyone want a player, that is playing at “80%”, and producing at a rate of 20% of his capabilities, over a player that is playing at 100%, and producing 80 to 100% of what he is capable of doing, at the plate?
Heyward was not helping the team, when he was playing injured.
Illinois Brave
June 8th, 2011
1:33 pm
Chipper said what most YOUNG ADULTS need to hear. These kids have been coddled all of their lives and being an adult is still foreign to them.
Most of you that are fussing at Chipper for saying what he said are probably directly the reason we have kids growing up like Jason is. Parents are afraid to make their kids tough, because they are too concerned about their children’s self esteem.
You can’t protect your kids from pain, but what you do is to teach them to be strong enough to survive it.
Chipper did what he needed to do. He called Jason out and made him feel a little peer pressure. Of course Jason won’t like it, but it will make him a better person. For those of you who don’t like what Chipper said, then quit fussing every time an athlete whines.
reckingball
June 8th, 2011
1:35 pm
I am surprised that some of these ‘oldsters’ don’t finish their comments with, “back in my younger days, we had to walk ten miles to get to school, it was uphill both ways, and we had to fight the Indians coming and going”.
Elonbrave
June 8th, 2011
1:36 pm
I agree with Chipper…. but isn’t Heyward almost back already? He’d have to make a couple rehab starts anyway. Seems that this would have a lot more relevance if it were a week or more ago.
Should Heyward play?
June 8th, 2011
1:42 pm
[...] play until he is 100% percent. Chipper Jones has expressed frustration when he commented to Atlanta Journal-Constitution that Heyward needs to realize how important he is to the Braves, even if he isn’t 100 [...]
Reply to bonehead fans
June 8th, 2011
1:46 pm
Some people are so busy trying to be critical of players (Heyward) that they make themselves sound as stupid as they really are. The braves must have a medical staff to evaluate injuries but yet all the high school dropouts think they are more prepared to make a decision on whether Heyward is hurt or not. There are more serious problems on this team than Heyward’s injury. Last year it was T P’s fault for the lack of hitting and he was bashed daily. Well, where are the bashers now? The current lack of hitting coach barely get a mention when the subject of poor hitting is mentioned. Until they solve that problem I guess Heyward will be the player to bash, and oh yes please tell chipper that there are other players in the lineup that needs some of his leadership guidance if he is up to it.
Scott
June 8th, 2011
1:51 pm
Heyward lack the work ethic to become the great player everyone thought he would become .
JT Grace
June 8th, 2011
1:53 pm
jm_baldwin ” Heyward is a gamer.
Heyward is NOT a gamer. Tim Hudson is a gamer. Jordan Schafer is a gamer. Martin Prado is the definition of a gamer. A guy who is constantly injured and taking days off at age 21 is not a gamer.
I like Heyward but he needs to start hitting off a tee today, play in a couple of rehab games this weekend and return on Monday. The team needs him.
Erik from N.C.
June 8th, 2011
1:56 pm
Chipper is one of my favorite Braves of all time, but I think he messed up in this instance. First, he should not have “called out” Heyward publicly even if he felt that way (nence the old mantra, praise publicly, but criticize privately). Second, he should trust the medical advice that Heyward is receiving … if Heyward is going to risk aggravating the injury and having it be a lingering thing all year (or worse), then the extra week spent recovering now is well worth it and well advised. If on the other hand, it really is fully healed, then Heyward probably needs to accelerate his timetable for getting back out there as the team does need him and has missed him greatly.
BravesFan
June 8th, 2011
1:57 pm
I have been on Chipper from time to time throughout the years about the injuries but the dude is gutting it out this year with a bad knee and a hurt groin! I have absolutely no problem with Chipper calling Jason out.
Heyward is a great talent! So was Bob Horner. Now I am not saying that Heyward is Horner by any means but if I were the Braves I would fine Heyward every time he slides head first. Both injuries (thumb and shoulder) were caused or made worse by sliding head first.
JHey, you are one of the lucky few who get into pro baseball. Give off your butt and help this team win!!!!
Good Grief
June 8th, 2011
1:59 pm
What’s odd about this is prior to Heyward going on the DL everybody was saying that Jason should be DL’d until he could get healthy enough to play. It wasn’t just fans saying that it was guys in the media (writers, Chip, Joe, and other analyst) and I even remember some of the players saying it would be good for Jason to rest his shoulder and get back healthy.
So now the script has changed? Figures. I remember a few years back both Smoltz and Brian Jordan called Chipper out on some of his “injuries” and he b****ed about it. While I understand wanting to get Jason back out on the field sooner rather than later this team is still somehow winning games – now in 2nd place and only 3 games back of the Phillies? No need to rush him back! Get the rest of the team to hitting (DAN UGGLA) and maybe we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
I could understand it if the Braves had dropped 6 to 7 games back but come on… keep playing ball and get the guys that’s currently on the team back to hitting – that includes you Chipper.
Bob
June 8th, 2011
2:00 pm
Jason is finding out that there is a difference between high school and major league baseball.
I’m not sure that he wants to play at the professional level. His reasons are turning into excuses.
That is sad considering what he could become.
HeyHeyKid
June 8th, 2011
2:00 pm
Heyward is in a no win situation right now. If he comes back to early and he is not 100% and he sucks like he did in May then most fans will be all over him calling him a bust. And if he waits and heals until he comes back close to 100%, most fans call him soft and a bust. I am sure if it was September he would play thru it or if he thought he could help the team out. In my opinion Ski and Mather are better in rf than a 70% Heyward.
Sid Slid
June 8th, 2011
2:02 pm
That’s not what Buster said. He said that HEYWARD has a lot at stake with his teammates right now. Buster never wrote anything at all about teammates taking sides on this, or it dividing the clubhouse. Unless you saw something else that he wrote that I missed, in which case, please point it out. I’d like to see it. – DOB
Re Buster’s comments. He tweeted this morning: “I do think that the forthcoming weeks are going to be important in how Heyward is perceived by his teammates; there is frustration there.”
You’re right. Dividing the clubhouse may be a little strong. But I think you and Buster both pick up on a sense of frustration inside the clubhouse that Heyward can’t seem to stay in the lineup. Maybe it’s just Chipper who feels that way, although if it reached a point where he felt the need to speak out on it publicly, I would guess not. You would obviously know better. Personally, I think it’s just part of a process of discovering the difference between being hurt and not being able to play, and Heyward will be fine in the long term.
Janet
June 8th, 2011
2:07 pm
It sounds like a lot of people would like to see Heyward play with an inflamed labrum so he can tear it and be out for a few years. A month or so, or a year or more – how long would we rather have him out? Nobody can feel another person’s pain, and one person’s sore knee is not the same as another person’s sore shoulder ( or any other injured body part ). Chipper and every one else need to get off their high horses and stop preaching about something they know nothing about! Take care of your own body!
Serbok
June 8th, 2011
2:08 pm
I have to agree with Chipper~ I mean~ Think Mickey Mantle~ Aaron~ Gherig~
Mays etc…….. I seriously doubt Mantle would DL himself over something like this!
He finished with pretty good career numbers didnt he? Course~ Heyward is NO
Mantle!! Why? ………. because he’s hurting so badly?
guy
June 8th, 2011
2:08 pm
JH,If the shoe fits,wear it!
bball fan
June 8th, 2011
2:11 pm
Tell us Wren, is Heyward injured or just sore? There’s a big difference. If he’s just sore he needs to be out there. If he’s injured, tell us what is the injury.
Rupert
June 8th, 2011
2:11 pm
Anon21, if you have to resort to name calling, then that says all I need to know about you and whatever argument you have.
I wholeheartedly agree with an earlier post about if this wasn’t Heyward, a lot of folks would be acting differently. He is the next big thing, and people want him to be so good that they don’t want to hear anything negative. That’s fine, I am the same way, but don’t lose the forrest for the trees.
And that is my biggest point. Too many folks on here are reacting like it’s CHIPPER’S comments that will divide the team. No. It’s HEYWARD’S actions that led to something happening on the team, read between the lines. Which led to Chipper, feeling the need to express this publicly. HEYWARD is the one who can divide this team or unite it with how he responds to the TEAM’S apparent problem with his comments, and approach to injury. Don’t shoot the messenger, Chipper.
Mike Berry
June 8th, 2011
2:16 pm
Great article DOB…Top Job. Really enjoyed it…now let’s see if this will light a fire under Jason’s butt or not.
K.C. Frenchy
June 8th, 2011
2:18 pm
Hmmmm………. quick think fast, who’s the 1st Brave that comes to mind thats always taking the day off or is on the DL??? Chipper….. bingo! He is the LAST one to question if someone is hurt, what you think the dude doesnt want to be playing? Only Heyward knows for sure how he is feeling, so Larry just play out your part time role this year & please ride off to your ranch after this year, we need your 13 mill per to sign a STUD 3rd sacker that STILL has power & can play everyday, thanks for your years of service though, see ya!!!!!!!!!!
Bill Rea
June 8th, 2011
2:20 pm
Heyward is just another Braves has been or never was. Its in the fine print of everyone’s contract these days. When you come to the Braves, you must promise to forget how to hit. Its mandatory! Only Prado and Hinske cheat from time to time and that will catch up to them. Unbelievable how these major leaguers can become complete wastes at the plate. On paper, these guys look like a better club than Phila but they love striking out. Prado is terrific! Heyward should be trade bait. McLouth and Mather need GONE! Lance Parrish GONE! Chipper WAS great……GONE! This team is nothing but two giant question marks…….What Happened? What do we do from here? Hitless wonders can make any pitcher look terrific. Where are LaRoche, Infante, Frenchy and Andrue when you need them?
Marcus
June 8th, 2011
2:23 pm
What if Jason goes out there not 100%, and further worsens the injury, making him out for an even longer time, then what? Chipper gets hurts feilding a ground ball, so he needs to worry about himself. Its a long season people, let the man get 100%. Chipper just needs to step his game up while Heyward is out. Nobody aint hittin except Prado anyway. Chipper worry about yourself. Jason, come back when you are healthy
chris
June 8th, 2011
2:23 pm
Dob,
all the medical doctors say its normal wear and tear,so if you go by the doctors he is not really hurt ,now is he?i think mlb should be looking into this,as this sounds like someone is covering up for heyward.
Art Vandelay
June 8th, 2011
2:26 pm
“As it stands, this story divides the fans”
Who cares? Are the divided fans not going to watch the game?
Also my guess is Chipper isn’t the only one feeling this way about Jason, just the only one who will say something…
chris
June 8th, 2011
2:27 pm
Marcus
June 8th, 2011
2:23 pm
What if Jason goes out there not 100%, and further worsens the injury, making him out for an even longer time, then what
WHAT F INJURY DO YOU THINK THIS PERSON HAS?THE DOC IN CA,AND ATL.TWICE TOLD HIM ITS NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR.TELL ME WHERE YOU SEE THAT JASON HEYWARD IS OUT WITH A SHOULDER INJURY,WTF?????FUNNY HOW HEYWARD BEEN TWEETING ALL THE TIME,AND PLAYING BBALL IN FLA.,HE COMES BACK WHEN THE HEAT SERIES IS OVER NOT UNTIL THEN.
NickGranite
June 8th, 2011
2:29 pm
Heyward is 21. Chipper is 39. The difference in baseball and life experience is enormous. Anyone who has ever worked with people that young knows you have to cuff them once in a while to get their attention. That’s all it is.
Plate Appearance
June 8th, 2011
2:32 pm
NECESSARY WORDS
What Chipper said needed to be said — on some level.
But hopefully Chipper said these same things to Jason first privately before taking them public.
Letting other players or management say similar things to Jason in private would have been the next step.
Going public would then be the final step. So perhaps this was indeed Chipper’s final and needed step with Jason, according to Chipper’s perspective.
I’ll say this about Chipper to his credit; he does deeply care about winning — and is definitely in the “Bobby Cox baseball mold” in this respect!
Moreover, I’ve never seen Chipper to speak in a careless fashion. He always seems careful and thoughtful with the words he speaks.
bill
June 8th, 2011
2:34 pm
Damn people Chipper is an HOFer and we should be proud he stood with us for 20 years. I know I am. He is older and not in his prime but he hit 300 last year. Chipper has never spoken bad about the fans like Tom Glavine and Smoltz. Larry is sort of an everyman player and since my 28 year old daughter could cheer she has yelled for Chipper. These guys on here would talk bad about Warren Spahn if they had half a chance. Get those damn fish again tonight. I am going to see my daughter in Pittsburgh Saturday and I will be at PNC park Sunday to BEAT THE METS>
Braves Insider
June 8th, 2011
2:36 pm
There is new information that his so called injury is a recurrence from minor leagues,and this has been a ongoing problem
Earl
June 8th, 2011
2:39 pm
My shoulder is sometimes sore when I get out of bed in the morning. Should I just stay home, hmmm.
bias
June 8th, 2011
2:41 pm
so why has fw,and fg not extended the dl then?this is against mlb rules and hope some gets fired over this.if he is off the dl ,someone is called down,but since he is not mkb is suppose to be notified.
the fan
June 8th, 2011
2:43 pm
Enter your comments here
BehindEnemyLines
June 8th, 2011
2:46 pm
We’ve saw what injured Heyward looks like last season & it ain’t pretty. Meanwhile, the sooner I never hear anything from the constantly crippled 3B, the last person on earth who ought to comment on anyone’s health, the happier I’ll be. Easily the most unlikable Brave since Justice & at this point he’s getting pretty close to that.
Rev. Jesse Jackson
June 8th, 2011
2:47 pm
With young Jason Heyward being the only African-American on a team in the chocolate city of Atlanta, there’s a lot of unnecessary pressure being placed on him.
The likes of a cracker Floridian like Chipper Jones calling him out in the news media is very telling, and further indicative of the racial unrest in the Braves’ organization. Not one African-American was interviewed for Bobby Cox’s job.
Keep hope alive, Atlanta !
the fan
June 8th, 2011
2:49 pm
Coghlan CF, Infante 2B, Dobbs 3B, Sanchez 1B, Morrison LF, Buck C, Bonifacio SS, Cousins RF, Nolasco P
Jun 08, 2011 / 2:38 pm et
Stanton is benched on his 1 year aniversary with fla.
the fan
June 8th, 2011
2:54 pm
Rev. Jesse Jackson
June 8th, 2011
2:47 pm
With young Jason Heyward being the only African-American on a team in the chocolate city of Atlanta, there’s a lot of unnecessary pressure being placed on him.
The likes of a cracker Floridian like Chipper Jones calling him out in the news media is very telling, and further indicative of the racial unrest in the Braves’ organization. Not one African-American was interviewed for Bobby Cox’s job.
Keep hope alive, Atlanta
Name a single one from the mets
Go call out the NAACP Who gives a chit?This is not the NFL,NO GO NOW,THE COTTON IN THE FIELDS IS READY TO BE PICKIN
PS.Don’t forget to stop by the kfc on the way,and also stop and get a watermelon also.
Fog Horn
June 8th, 2011
3:01 pm
Comon Jason your shoulder will be fine,get ready to come back,rub a little dirt on it!
Jessee James NY HERO
June 8th, 2011
3:02 pm
Rev. Jesse Jackson
June 8th, 2011
2:47 pm
WONDER HOW DAVID PRICE IS HANDLING BEING THE ONLY AFRICAN AMERICAN STARTING PITCHER WITH TAMPA BAY?dON’T WORRY OBAMA WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU.
PS.HOW IS THAT HOPE AND CHANGE WORKING OUT FOR YOU?
k26dp
June 8th, 2011
3:28 pm
Chipper Jones before his meniscus tear: .275/.366/.465
Chipper Jones after his meniscus tear: .211/.318/.316
So how is Chipper Jones helping the team “grinding it out” playing on one leg? Wouldn’t it be better if Jones got he knee taken care of, came back in 4-to-6 weeks, and let someone else hit? Because I’m pretty sure whomever they called up from AAA could do at least .211/.318/.316.
This team gets bitten again and again by players concealing injuries to “help the team”. Shaffer. Jurrjens. Heyward last season. I’m glad Heyward has the smarts to learn from last season and make sure that when he comes back, he’s actually healthy enought to contribute.
As for Chipper, he’ll always be a favorite, but he’s way off base on this one.
Rev. Jesse Jackson
June 8th, 2011
3:28 pm
Judging by the comments to my statement of fact, perhaps a peaceful, but loud demonstration at Turner Field would be productive. My friend Al Sharpton and Georgia-favorite Carlos Santana would add some credibility to such an event.
The Scout
June 8th, 2011
3:29 pm
I’d like to Chipper, Uggla & Schafer grind it out elswhere.
Fast Eddie Perez
June 8th, 2011
3:35 pm
Lets check the Bravos DL stats for the last 5 years: the undisputed leader is??? Yes, Larry Wayne Jones, any questions? Any you morons who think Heyward is soft, you wanna tell him that personally? I didnt think so!!!
Tyler
June 8th, 2011
3:38 pm
Maybe if Chipper hadn’t played through injuries, he wouldn’t be at the end of his career. What short sighted comments.
joel
June 8th, 2011
3:39 pm
For you folks that keep saying “he shouldn’t play with an injury” blah blah……… he does not have an INJURY!!! Tests prove it. He has “discomfort”. Baby JHey needs to MAN UP and quit milking the gravy train.
AtlSportsfan
June 8th, 2011
3:46 pm
I love Chipper and glad he has some fire in him and speaking out..but he is WRONG when it comes to Heyward.The guy needs to come back 100%, not 10%, not even 90% or he is risking his entire career…why do you think Tiger isnt playing in the us open…He is thinking long term. Same with J-Hey
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4:07 pm
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4:16 pm
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LakeDawg
June 8th, 2011
4:34 pm
Hayward can take his time. I would rather have Hinske in right.
shaggingflies
June 8th, 2011
4:41 pm
http://www.shaggingflies.com had a good write up about it.
1991Braves
June 8th, 2011
4:44 pm
LMAO!! Larry Jones calling someone out about not playing when he is hurt. This crybaby has missed more games the past 3 or 4 years than any player in the N.L. He goes on the D.L if he has a belly ache. He is no leader, because a leader leads by example, which means a leader plays hurt, this big crybaby has never played hurt a day in his life. So don’t call someone else out Larry, when he is doing exactly what the so-called leader of the team does, and that is sit out when he is hurt. Larry Jones needs to take his big salary and back stabbing comments with him right out of town. If the braves had his salary, uggla’s salary, and Lowe’s salary, they could buy a couple of big bats and win the National League. Wishful hoping for braves fans!
rev jessie jackson
June 8th, 2011
4:50 pm
what we have here is an abreviation and utter attemps to destroy my brother… i comes before you to file an injunction against the haters of my people and we shall overcome this attempted destruction of my only black brother on the braves…..if this does not cease we shall have a march on turner field
Optimism in November Doesn't Win Championships
June 8th, 2011
4:53 pm
Chipper is a fraud. Go back and read his comments when John Smoltz said the same things about him when he was a 10 year vet not a 2nd year player. If the Braves need a 2nd year player that is not one of the top paid players, so badly, that sounds like an organizational problem to me.
Braves Homer
June 8th, 2011
4:54 pm
What an idiotic statement by Crapper. Jason was helping us about as much as Dan Uggla.. He was 4 for 41 in May. Now he will be healthy with us only 1 game back in the wild card.
braves fan forever
June 8th, 2011
5:03 pm
Now the future of the braves is at first base.So idiot said they should put Heyward at first.Do you really think he will stretch out to field a throw.Not a chance.Heyward is a wimp and so is the manager.They both need to grow a set and quit sharing a set.Uggla needs someone to take the bat away from him he needs to Voluntary go down to the minors and find his stroke.Wilkin Ramariez is highly overated and as much as I like hinskie I can see why he is a bench player he gives out too quickly.Chipper is a future HOF and he has the right to speak his mind.He took less to stay here and has helped the braves win many many games and is valuable even when he is not playing.I agree that maybe he should help with the hitting Coach because we don’t have much there.Our problem is Leadership in Management including Fredi.Hey Fredi grow some and show some fire get thrown out of a game kick some dirt throw a base destroy a water cooler, but get off your A…… and show some fire.
Rusty
June 8th, 2011
5:15 pm
Just what we need, another double play hitter back in the line up. But at least he can make contact.