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cabravesfan
June 1st, 2011
12:48 pm
DOB-
Saw that you were here at 4:00 this morning taking care of that problem for us- greatly appreciated but don’t you ever sleep??
Seriously though, thank you. Most of us really appreciate the work you and Carroll put into the blog and keeping it a great place for fans to hang out
AMG
June 1st, 2011
12:51 pm
I just went through the comments and I have one important question: “Why are they still having the World Baseball Classic?”
TennesseePaul
June 1st, 2011
12:52 pm
that’s certainly a good reason not to play a leadoff hitter every day. Nevermind his .400 OBP through his first seven games.
Later on there was more clarification on this… as this comment was about playing him everyday after McLouth gets back. And to reiterate what many have implied, it is unlikely his OBP will stay that high if he is unable to hit more than singles at a .250 clip. And it’s seven games. It’s unlikely his OBP will stay that high regardless. This really hasn’t been his “skill” in the minors. It would be truly amazing to see the kid spend his career in the minors with a .325 OBP and suddenly be a .400 OBP guy in the majors.
tiger297
June 1st, 2011
12:55 pm
curious to see where this post ends up
tony austin
June 1st, 2011
12:55 pm
Oh great, the WBC, thanks AMG
I had forgotten about that stupid, idiotic, waste of time garbage classic. Not that I have an opinion on it either way.
Arkansas Transplant
June 1st, 2011
12:56 pm
Minor is nothing more and nothing less than a 3rd starter. I mean, I hope he could be more or less but it is what it is.
Wow...
June 1st, 2011
12:56 pm
Wow, a .400 OBP through SEVEN games. He really must be the next Willie Mays
Hugo Z Hackenbush
June 1st, 2011
1:03 pm
Promises, promises…
Earl Williams
June 1st, 2011
1:05 pm
If the Marlins had Mike Minor they would win the NL East. That is how well they have played taking into account they have only had 3 successful starters all year and the best of the 3 is on the DL with no timetable for return. That is why the Braves will win the NL East they have 7!!!!!!!!! starters they can run out there.I’m including Teheran.just remarkable depth and IF Loco Fredo does not screw up Venters they will be unbeatable when the games start to pile up.
The Braves are FINE!!!! Way beyond FINE!!!
Bat Masterson
June 1st, 2011
1:07 pm
I’ll stay off the blog for the rest of the year. _ PL
Ah, BS. As a blog terrorist you have no credibility.
Bat Masterson
June 1st, 2011
1:10 pm
.like a Jair Jurrjens and Johnny Venters
has.haveEarl Williams
June 1st, 2011
1:13 pm
Bat, I go for my semi-annual PSA reading tomorrow.Even though my urologist–and noe good friend—says there is literally no way that PSA is more than 0.0, as it must be, and even though my 10 year Survivability Rate is 99.4 I still think about it.
Wish I could live according to The Bard–”A coward dies a thousand deaths. A brave man tastes of death but once.”
DAP
June 1st, 2011
1:15 pm
one time If Schafer still has an OBP of .400 after his next 35 at-bats (he has 7 hits and 7 walks in 35 combined at-bats so far), I’ll stay off the blog for the rest of the year.
i think we’ll all be rooting for schafer.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 1st, 2011
1:16 pm
Thanks for the info re the timewarp! Hope they cann get it fixed this time!
ncbravesfan I meant to say McCann was not an ideal cleanup hitter, not leadoff. He certainly is not the ideal leadoff hitter!
Yeah, I don’t think I’d bat him first…
bball fan
June 1st, 2011
1:17 pm
Trade the next big thing (Heyward) for a productive outfielder. Call the Cardinals or Padres..
TennesseePaul
June 1st, 2011
1:18 pm
DAP, I’ll be right there with you, and I don’t even like Schafer.
Earl Williams
June 1st, 2011
1:19 pm
As a Marlins follower–NEVER use of the word FANatic—I would rather face anyone in baseball than Brian McCann in a late game clutch situation. i would walk McCann to get to ANYBODY. Two outs in the 9th inning with a 1 run lead, the Braves may as well get the pinch runner up stretching because Brian will be on 1B in about 40 seconds.
Bat Masterson
June 1st, 2011
1:20 pm
How could you not, Earl. I hope the best outcome for you.
RC
June 1st, 2011
1:22 pm
Mike Minor is, at best, a 5th starter. He has no business being in the rotation of a good team that has World Series aspirations.
Well, on this club Minor is a 6th or 7th starter, depending on which one Teheran is. That being said, he’s EXACTLY the type of pitcher that belongs in the rotation of a team with World Series aspirations, as a spot-starter/injury fill-in. Can you name me a team that has a BETTER 6th starter than Minor? Philly certainly has WS hopes, and they have run out Kyle Kendrick and Vance Worley this year. The Yankees would like to be in the World Series, yet Minor is probably a #4 starter for that team. Fact is that while Minor isn’t an ace by any measure, he is a very, very good version of what the Braves are using him as: injury replacement #5 starter.
Earl Williams
June 1st, 2011
1:25 pm
Bat, by the way, that has nothing to do with my being an agent provacateur. I’m a natural contrarian and I love to stir it up.1969 grad of Florida and I love the school and SUPPORT them heavily but I’ve been banned from all Gator web sites. I think I’m just telling the truth, but they highly disagree.
I do flat out love Brian McCann.Before hanley had his troubles this year and was at the peak of his market value, I trade him straight up for McCann. I would have got killed but I would have done it.
Earl Williams
June 1st, 2011
1:26 pm
RC, Right now Minor is a SOLID 3rd starter for Florida.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 1st, 2011
1:27 pm
Earl I trade him straight up for McCann. I would have got killed but I would have done it.
And I’d have been the one to kill you.
No, seriously, though, I like reading those types of things (not the killing part…)—thanks!
Bobby Hill
June 1st, 2011
1:28 pm
The back end of the rotation has met and exceeded expectation. The #4 and #5 starter spots are the least of this team’s worries.
Snotboogie
June 1st, 2011
1:34 pm
Freddie’s on fire. For the month of May: .312/.371/.430/.802
True to form, he gets going as the temperatures rise. If it werent considered blapshemy, I would nickname him Freddie Mercury.
Bat Masterson
June 1st, 2011
1:34 pm
Bat, by the way, that has nothing to do with my being an agent provacateur.
Agent provocateur, huh, Earl. I’d go with ramble-rouser, or nut.
Earl Williams
June 1st, 2011
1:34 pm
One Time—NO!! presssure in Florida.Everyone is watching the Heat.Minor would do fine.what do you want for him? i don’t think we can get it done.
Earl Williams
June 1st, 2011
1:35 pm
Bat–Isn’t that rabble rouser??
ncscoots
June 1st, 2011
1:36 pm
Hey, I love America and I believe in capitalism…however that doesnt mean that I cant say that our economy SUCKS right now.
I see that you know as much about economics as baseball. Which is to say, you could write that knowledge on a gnat’s a**, in bold, and leave enough room for the Gettysburg Address.
How does this nimrod keep showing up here? Is he frickin’ banned or not?
Earl Williams
June 1st, 2011
1:37 pm
DOB can’t stand me, but I give him a lot of credit for not banning me. That shows a lot of class and integrity and respect for what this SHOULD be all about.
DAP
June 1st, 2011
1:38 pm
and just like that….hes gone.
RC
June 1st, 2011
1:38 pm
One Time’s got no case,
You are right. No way does Minor have that all important NY demeanor like Freddy Garcia or Bartolo Colon…..
Btw, 35 of Minor’s “patented starts” would probably result in a 15-win season in NY, with that offense behind him.
Bat Masterson
June 1st, 2011
1:39 pm
Yes it is Earl, though you are prone to ramble on a bit.
Earl Williams
June 1st, 2011
1:41 pm
DOB and I at least agree on Brian McCann.
Here’s to another HIGH pitch count for a Phillies Ace.
T for Texas
June 1st, 2011
1:41 pm
Nats 8 hitter Alex Cora with runner on 2nd, 1 out, and pitcher on deck…..bunts. Wow. Luckily for him it went foul.
Snotboogie
June 1st, 2011
1:42 pm
I see that you know as much about economics as baseball. Which is to say, you could write that knowledge on a gnat’s a**, in bold, and leave enough room for the Gettysburg Address.
Classic scoots! Edmund Blackadder would be proud.
David O'Brien
June 1st, 2011
1:42 pm
Hate to say it but Freddy Freeman has been our best offensive player this year, and that ain’t saying much. — MattnAustin
What are you talking about? How has a guy (Freeman) hitting .264 with a .748 OPS and 17 RBI been better than, say, a guy (McCann) hitting .303 with an .832 OPS and 29 RBI? Please explain.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 1st, 2011
1:43 pm
Did some posts get deleted…?
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 1st, 2011
1:43 pm
Snotboogie—
And I third it!
Earl Williams
June 1st, 2011
1:43 pm
Isn’t literally every topic in the World exclusive of sports, food and weather–Well, weather can be politics—politics?? Politics is what you feel about life and who you are.How can you not discuss that??
Snotboogie
June 1st, 2011
1:44 pm
Seriously though, thank you. Most of us really appreciate the work you and Carroll put into the blog and keeping it a great place for fans to hang out
I second that. Big thanks to DOB and Carroll for all the long hours and misc efforts (like banning miscreants) in keeping this blog going.
DS1
June 1st, 2011
1:45 pm
scoots
Damn, somebody talking politics and I didn’t get in on it????
Oh heck, it was only economics………..
T for Texas
June 1st, 2011
1:45 pm
One Time gone for the umpteenth time.
ncscoots
June 1st, 2011
1:45 pm
SB, I wouldn’t doubt that many here wish I actually were a fictional character.
DS1
June 1st, 2011
1:46 pm
Yes, I am posting too quickly!!!
David O'Brien
June 1st, 2011
1:47 pm
Politics is what you feel about life and who you are.How can you not discuss that?? Earl Williams
We’ve managed to do a pretty good job of it here for years. So if you can’t imagine discussing baseball, music, BBQ, movies, etc., without politics, guess you’ll need to find another blog to vent your political beliefs. Nothing personal, man. Just the way we run this particular blog.
DS1
June 1st, 2011
1:48 pm
I don’t know about this kid Jordan Schafer, but so far I am OK with Logan Schafer! But then again, I am a glass half-full prospect hugger!
David O'Brien
June 1st, 2011
1:48 pm
Did some posts get deleted…?
Yes, those posted by a particular misantrhrope who is banned and comes back under new identities and IP addresses.
DS1
June 1st, 2011
1:49 pm
Earl
You ain’t been in these parts fer long, have ye?
ncscoots
June 1st, 2011
1:49 pm
Wayne, if you like, I could make some gratuitous Fox News joke, and you could then respond, LOL.
DS1
June 1st, 2011
1:50 pm
scoots
Hey, don’t wanna get you in any trouble now! Besides, gotta go watch the Fox News mid-day report…….
Later…..
Bo Graves!!
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 1st, 2011
1:54 pm
DOB—
Ah, jeezæI thought I’d heard tell that he’d been back. Well, thanks again!
Shaun
June 1st, 2011
1:54 pm
Well, that’s certainly a good reason not to play a leadoff hitter every day. Nevermind his .400 OBP through his first seven games. Let’s focus on slugging, since every person who’s advised him has made it clear that trying to hit homers, like he once did, is exactly what the Braves do NOT need him to do.
Jordan Schafer’s OBP’s in the minors:
2009: .263 in 38 PA’s
2010: .268 in 307 PA’s
2011: .309 in 186 PA’s
Perhaps he’s suddenly close to a .400 OBP player. Perhaps he’s not quite as bad as his minor league numbers indicate because of his injury issues, etc.
But I have a hard time believing a guy who has had trouble keeping his OBP much above .300 the last few seasons is relatively close to the type of hitter who can keep his OBP anywhere near .400 for a few weeks worth of games in the majors.
I do, by the way, think there is some legitimacy to the idea that he may not be as bad as his numbers indicate. But even if he is better than his minor league numbers indicate, how much better? His minor league numbers have been pretty bad so even if his true talent level is better, it’s unlikely the difference between his talent and his statistics is drastic enough to make him much more than a fringe-type player.
Schafer is only 24 so it’s way too early to give up on him. I think he could make big strides playing everyday this season. And I certainly think it’s fine that he’s playing everyday in McLouth’s absence.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 1st, 2011
1:54 pm
OK, weird typo in my post. Sorry.
bravesgrl4life
June 1st, 2011
1:55 pm
DOB, thank you once again for banning the trouble maker. You have to spend way too much time doing that, and I just want you to know it’s appreciated. He’s a nasty character, and I think some of us stray away from the blog a lot when he’s on. You and CR are the best blog admins around!
Bat Masterson
June 1st, 2011
1:56 pm
Earl has been here for quite sometime, Wayne. He has just been here a lot this year to bash Uggla.
Earl is also Lou Vales, AKA The Pee Guy
Snotboogie
June 1st, 2011
1:58 pm
SB, I wouldn’t doubt that many here wish I actually were a fictional character.
Nah scoots. More in the other party for sure. Just for those putdowns.
Shaun
June 1st, 2011
1:59 pm
Regarding my last post, I forgot to make it clear that those OBP’s for Schafer are obviously only the last three seasons. He’s played more minor league seasons and his OBP’s were better in those seasons, a reason I think he’s better than his numbers the last couple of years indicate, to some degree.
But, again, I think he needs to play everyday somewhere and make significant strides in his offensive game this season; and I think there is a decent chance he will.
Bat Masterson
June 1st, 2011
2:00 pm
Jordan Schafer’s OBP’s in the minors:
2009: .263 in 38 PA’s
2010: .268 in 307 PA’s
2011: .309 in 186 PA’s
I have a hard time giving a damn what a guy did after he was hurt, kept playing, found out he had a broken wrist, then had surgery, and then played with pain for another year. But that’s just me.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 1st, 2011
2:00 pm
bravesgrl4life—
Hear hear!!
REALLY bugs me…DOB’s just trying to have a nice Blog where folks cann discuss baseball and other things, and butts like that have to come and mess it up. Yeah, there’s gonna be arguments, but that’s OK for the most part—people don’t agree on everything ever (and it might be boring if they did!). But to do what that guy does…uncalled for on so many levels.
Elon Brave
June 1st, 2011
2:00 pm
Would the Braves ever consider allowing Uggla to get at-bats at Gwinnett so he work without any pressure?
Murph
June 1st, 2011
2:00 pm
Anyone know what KK’s status is these days? Is he still hurt or has he started to give up HR’s again?
Threadkiller
June 1st, 2011
2:02 pm
Shaun, Maybe Shafer was just unlucky in the minors! hehehehe
bravesgrl4life
June 1st, 2011
2:03 pm
No, DS1, pretty sure she’s talking about the banned one.
DS1
June 1st, 2011
2:04 pm
McFann: But to do what that guy does…uncalled for on so many levels.
You talking about me again???
DS1
June 1st, 2011
2:05 pm
Bat
Yeah, I was just trying for some quick humor……
Too bad he picked the name of an ex-Brave for his new moniker. Back in the day, I thought (or maybe hoped) the original Earl would be a long term Brave after his ‘71 ROY performance.
monty
June 1st, 2011
2:09 pm
Mike Minor, “he’s a 3rd starter” no higher”, no wait, “he’ll never be more than a 5th starter,” Can we even let the kid have a year or two before we relegate him. All this talk about ceilings and such, really? Bunch of pseudo-scouts and experts. No one on this blog could have predicted the careers of any of these guys based on their 1st- 12-30 starts in the big leagues, you simply cannot do it. May be fun to act like you have a clue, but one person’s guess is as good as anothers.
Mike Minor- 11 GS, 1.676 WHIP-5.72 ERA
Tom Glavine- 9 GS, 1.748 WHIP-5.54 ERA
Greg Maddux-32 GS, 1.650 WHIP-5.50 ERA
John Smotz- 12 GS 1.672 WHIP-5.48 ERA
You might have a better chance at the lottery tonight than guess after a few starts who will be successful and what measure of success they will attain.
bravesgrl4life
June 1st, 2011
2:09 pm
Time warp again
my 2:03 was actually in response to DS1’s 2:04.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 1st, 2011
2:11 pm
Wayne—
TennesseePaul
June 1st, 2011
2:11 pm
I know I’m tough on Schafer, but, I don’t think I wouldn’t cite those injury riddled seasons as primary examples of his skill set….
DS1
June 1st, 2011
2:11 pm
bravesgrl4life
and I thought you had that Extra Sensory Perception Network going there!
ncscoots
June 1st, 2011
2:12 pm
I have a hard time giving a damn what a guy did after he was hurt, kept playing, found out he had a broken wrist, then had surgery, and then played with pain for another year. But that’s just me.
Yeah, using those stats as a barometer probably isn’t too smart. Especially if you use them to the exclusion of the 1000+ ABs with a high OBP in the two years before he won a ML job.
I’m not sure that any of Schafer’s minor league numbers are wholly relevant, anymore. He’s certainly a different player than he was in ST of 2009, beyond the wrist problem and recovery. He’s changing how he plays the game offensively, he’s missed two years of development time, and like that. I think you can only evaluate him going forward, for the most part.
TennesseePaul
June 1st, 2011
2:12 pm
I dare say, that may be the fastest he’s every been banned once acquiring a new IP. He was here for about 45 minutes or so.
DS1
June 1st, 2011
2:13 pm
Yes, my cover has been blown. I am Paul Dense, the Pee Guy, Nick, Robert and .don all rolled into one loveable furrball!
And when bored, I come on as my nemisis zookey!
tiger297
June 1st, 2011
2:15 pm
wonder what notification he gets when banned…would love to think he gets something like the laughing jolly roger from independence day
DS1
June 1st, 2011
2:17 pm
Just enjoying the ride right now (on the Schafer train, that is). When the train pulls into the station, and it’s time to board the Nate express, I will do so. But just hoping the ride is a long one.
Seriously, I have no clue as to anything associated with Schafer. I am just a prospect hugger that pulls for ALL the kids, even that frosted tipped guy we dealt away last summer. I hope they ALL have exciting careers (unless they are playing against us, then I hope those other guys take an 0-fer.
Gotta go get my vehicular unit registered. Later folks!
Bat Masterson
June 1st, 2011
2:17 pm
wonder what notification he gets when banned…would love to think he gets something like the laughing jolly roger from independence day
tiger_
DOB sends him one of these.
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DAP
June 1st, 2011
2:20 pm
Focus narrowly and literally on one aspect of a post and refuse to understand the broader point and the real-world application and meaning.
nothing “real world” about a shaun payne post.
Shaun
June 1st, 2011
2:21 pm
TennesseePaul, the point is, even if they were injury-riddled seasons, that’s still a huge leap to close to a .400 OBP guy in the majors.
Let’s assume the wrist injury did cause his performance to suffer (which is very reasonable to assume). Accounting for that, does that make it likely that he can be something reasonably close to a very good OBP guy in the majors over the long haul? I don’t think so. If you read my whole post, the point is pretty clear, instead of narrowing your focus to one part of the post. I understand that’s a favorite tactic here. Focus narrowly and literally on one aspect of a post and refuse to understand the broader point and the real-world application and meaning.
MikeInFl
June 1st, 2011
2:25 pm
Well, the reality is that, whether due to injuries or ability, Schafer has never had any consistent success against anything above AA pitching. I’m certainly not saying he can’t do it, and I hope he will, but I think it’s a stretch to assume that he can.
No problem playing him while Nate’s out, and longer if he does well. But I’m not counting on it, and I think the best thing for him would be to go back down to AAA. He needs, somewhere, to play every day for three months and post good numbers.
Braves really move guys along fast. I really hope they’ll back off on rushing Teheran like they seem to be doing.
Tom O'Hawke
June 1st, 2011
2:26 pm
Carroll, thanks for bringing the blog’s technical problems to the attention of the IT, again.
DOB, thanks for bringing the blog’s immaturity problems to a halt, again. (and again & again etc.)
Good
afternoonmorning, LA Woman.RC
June 1st, 2011
2:28 pm
Bat Masterson,
I really hope your 2:17 doesn’t get pulled….that was just fantastic.
keylargo
June 1st, 2011
2:33 pm
Yesterday someone said we had not traded for a position player that made an impact since Tex. I thought about Derrek Lee who we got from Chicago. He was an interesting pickup but the Braves put their chips on Freddy.
Looks like they made the right choice. D. Lee this year – .231 .311 .346 .657
Tom O'Hawke
June 1st, 2011
2:33 pm
I dare say, that may be the fastest he’s every been banned once acquiring a new IP. He was here for about 45 minutes or so. (Tennessee Paul)
He was on here all last night, also.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 1st, 2011
2:33 pm
Curse me kilts! Looks like Pelfrey’s not gonna pitch against us this weekend.
If we miss him every series for the rest of the year, Fredi’s gonna spend the fall and winter looking over his shoulder…
cabravesfan
June 1st, 2011
2:35 pm
Monrning Tom! Must be raining in Albany…
Bat Masterson
June 1st, 2011
2:37 pm
RC_
Thanks, PL deservers all those we can send him. All I can take credit for is having the foresight to copy and save that though.
Tom O'Hawke
June 1st, 2011
2:40 pm
Just a passing storm, cabravesfan. Figured it would be a good time for a late lunch.
Tom O'Hawke
June 1st, 2011
2:48 pm
Bat Masterson
I think Ease may have been the originator of that work of art, on here, anyway.
nolie got it from someone (Ease?), and “gave” it to me. I, then, gave it to Dentz.
mjn
June 1st, 2011
2:51 pm
I know what their record was in May but to me they can’t claim they had a good month when you play .500 ball over 80% of the time frame. This month was an opportunity to make up some ground for what happened in April and they just didn’t do it. To start off 6-0 and then 12-4 and wind up 17-11 for the month is disappointing as far as Im concerned.
Ease®
June 1st, 2011
2:51 pm
Well, shoot Tom…Thanks for the props
Murph
June 1st, 2011
2:53 pm
It’s downright cordial on here right now.
Bat Masterson
June 1st, 2011
2:56 pm
Tom O’ _
Kudos to Ease.
What do you mean “gave” it to you? Surely nolie did not flip you off, did he?
Anyway, as long as it ends up aimed at PL, all is good.
Tom O'Hawke
June 1st, 2011
2:56 pm
Well-deserved props, Ease.
David O'Brien
June 1st, 2011
2:56 pm
NEW BLOGGAGE
rob from sc
June 1st, 2011
2:57 pm
I had no idea someone stole my screen name. Not cool at all. Anyway let’s get a win tonight so we can all be happy.
brian
June 1st, 2011
2:59 pm
great posts this AM Carroll and DOB. I enjoy reading them as always.
Any word on JHeys right shoulder?
Ward
June 1st, 2011
2:59 pm
Hello every one! Wow… I find it quite funny how your a Phillies fan,and have to come on our blog…….Why don’t you take your opinions ,and go back to your blog,and your boy’s…….