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ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
10:29 am

Also I wouldn’t be shocked to see Wren trade McLouth and a lower level pitching prospect before the deadline to help this club in the 2nd half.

That would show an awful lot of confidence in a player who has barely been on the field in the last two years, one who has changed his offensive game radically, with no record of sustainability for success with that change.

I’m a Schafer fan and I’ve seen him play a lot in the last five years, not just his relatively small ML contributions. Still, I wouldn’t be comfortable banking on him in a pennant race, not just yet. As I said earlier, the FO may think differently.

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
10:30 am

At least Schafer has actually played a game or two to get this praise. The pre-Spring Training hoopla over him was ridiculous enough. All that took was DOB saying Schafer smiled today when he first stepped into the clubhouse and everyone was all over the kid proclaiming him the next Willie Mays.

A good reason not to play Schafer every day? He’s “slugged” .286. Another? I refer you to the previous few months discussion of sample size.

The kid is great on defense though. I’ll give him that. It’s like you got a center field version of Raphael Belliard. No stick, all glove.

Lew

June 1st, 2011
10:30 am

Dadgum – Actually, it was worse. MInor gave up three runs – it’s why he got the loss. Gearrin just put it a run out of reach.

CrotchetyOldMan

June 1st, 2011
10:31 am

I think we should lay off the pitching staff. It’s the best in the NL, 2nd best in the Majors, with an ERA of 3.05. We should be a .750 team with that kind of pitching. Wren, call Vanna and tell her you’d like to buy an “O” and take us to the World Series.

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
10:33 am

I’m a Schafer fan and I’ve seen him play a lot in the last five years

Easy there scoots, no one has seem him play “a lot” in the last two years. You saw him play a lot 3,4 and 5 years ago.

Ray Jr.

June 1st, 2011
10:34 am

That guy was right about Uggsly not hitting .178.As messed up as he is now the basement is the limit and he could pull out a Ray Oyler year and hit around .138.Tigers won the World Series with a .138 hitting SS.Why not a ,138 hitting second baseman.

David O'Brien

June 1st, 2011
10:35 am

World Baseball Classic expanded from 16 to 28 countries for 2013. Be still , my beating heart…

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
10:36 am

I wouldn’t be shocked to see Wren trade McLouth and a lower level pitching prospect…

So there’s a need out there for McLouth? Reading this blog I got the impression he was finished as a player. I’m curious who McLouth would bring in to help the team and what team would view 3 months of McLouth as worth giving up some who could help…

Arkansas Transplant

June 1st, 2011
10:37 am

I don’t think Minor was all that bad lastnight. What hurt him was the walks, 2 came home to score.

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
10:38 am

I’m pretty excited about the WBC. I know it isn’t a popular topic hear, but I’ve been to the first two… enjoyed every minute of it. It didn’t hurt that they were in San Diego, one of my favorite cities in America.

ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
10:38 am

Easy there scoots, no one has seem him play “a lot” in the last two years. You saw him play a lot 3,4 and 5 years ago.

Cumulatively speaking, LOL.

LTBF

June 1st, 2011
10:40 am

DOB 10:35
With 28 teams there sure will be a lot of real bad ones in tourament.

ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
10:41 am

What hurt him was the walks, 2 came home to score.

Two-strike failures hurt at least as much as that. Rookie-ness. Not fatal, luckily, just mildly incapacitating.

Shaun

June 1st, 2011
10:41 am

Dadgum….., I’m not convinced quite yet that Schafer is the better option over McLouth this season. I think he’s better defensively but I don’t think it’s at all clear that he’s better in any other important aspect of the game.

Schafer hasn’t shown any slugging potential in his two major league stints. He hasn’t on-based over .306 or slugged over .400 in any of his last three minor league seasons, including so far this season. Maybe a call-up to the majors has suddenly changed him into a .400 OBP guy, but if he can’t post an OBP much above .300 in the minors, I have my doubts he can do it in the majors over the course of several months.

ncbravesfan

June 1st, 2011
10:42 am

McFann – I would say that McCann and Prado are the only dependable hitters in the lineup. IF Heyward and Uggla were hitting, there would be so much more that Fredi could do.

CF Schafer = speed at top of order
2B Prado = most disciplined hitter
RF Heyward = should be best offensive player but underachieving
2B Uggla = should be best power, but mightily underachieving
C McCann = not really an ideal leadoff hitter, but good power for 5 spot
3B Chipper = gap power, but not best hitter anymore
1B Freeman = gap power, but still learning, should not hit higher
SS Gonzalez = decent power, not a good enough contact hitter to hit higher

Lew

June 1st, 2011
10:43 am

DOB – You mean that there will be many more American players with ethnic names playing for other countries? Kind of like Donorfia playing for the Italians?

Lew

June 1st, 2011
10:45 am

Ray K – “That guy” thinks that it’s totally improbable – if not impossible – that Uggla hits even les than McNate did last year.

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
10:47 am

Freddie’s on fire. For the month of May: .312/.371/.430/.802

David O'Brien

June 1st, 2011
10:47 am

If My Morning Jacket’s new CD “Circuital” is a solid 3-1/2 stars — and that’s about what I’d give it, after first couple of listens — then Okkervil River/Titus Andronicus show Tue. night in ATL was 4 (out of 4). Really strong performances by both bands.

Wow...

June 1st, 2011
10:48 am

“SS] Alex, Better than Escobar”

Gonzalez .268/.298/388

Escobar .300/.382/.450

Yeah, much better than Escobar

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
10:48 am

You mean that there will be many more American players with ethnic names…

Whoa… eh hey there. You just dropped a hard “E”.

Ponce de Leon Has Left The Building

June 1st, 2011
10:50 am

Chipper NEVER juiced and now he is a year older. Why would anyone expect him to hit as many homers as he has in the past. As long as he plays the homers will continue to fall off. He is not exactly a poster boy for Gold’s Gym. We should be thankful he has not yet found his way to DL and that he is hitting okay for average. The “Fountain of Youth” has been permanently closed due to contamination and regulation.

LTBF

June 1st, 2011
10:50 am

Lew
Got a question. Has Minor [if packaged with Nate] pitched well enough to have some trade value for another desent bat? Not trying to be funny I don’t mean a wood one.

ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
10:50 am

Freddie’s on fire. For the month of May: .312/.371/.430/.802

My man. True to his track record, so far. Let’s see how he adjusts in the second third of the season. Ks have ticked up for him, with more appearances not in the 8 hole. And while I like that left-center-to-left gap power, I’d really like to see him turn on a few more balls from RHP.

I’m greedy like that. :-)

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
10:51 am

Has Minor [if packaged with Nate] pitched well enough to have some trade value for another descent bat

For what position, CF? McLouth is making about $7M this year, Minor has yet to really impress in the majors… The other team has to see McLouth/Minor as a good addition to their club… I’m curious what team this is, if not the Braves?

ncbravesfan

June 1st, 2011
10:51 am

I meant to say McCann was not an ideal cleanup hitter, not leadoff. He certainly is not the ideal leadoff hitter! :)

ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
10:54 am

With 28 teams there sure will be a lot of real bad ones in tourament.

Yes, but David Ross could start for every one of them.

:-)

monty

June 1st, 2011
10:54 am

Heck, even the Stros are hitting better than the Braves .260-.244. and better OPS. Scored more runs. Not that I’d rather be last in my division, just say’in.

DS1

June 1st, 2011
10:56 am

Didn’t we used to have a ball player on our roster named Escobar??? I do think I am correct. He played the infield, and had a funny hairdo or something like that……..

And I remember that we once had an ace pitcher named Wainwright I think. I believe he is a 300+ game winner now. Four or five no-hitters and a couple of Cy Young awards.

When will folks quit living in the past? (go listen to some Tull!)

LTBF

June 1st, 2011
10:58 am

Enter your comments here

Reasonable

June 1st, 2011
10:58 am

We must quit saying Dan will hit his normal average. That is now nearly statistically impossible for him this year.Maybe he is trying to hit his career average. someone should tell him to just hit his career average for the rest of the year and if that translates to.230 or so that is fine. as long as he starts to drive in runs. He can’t close with 60 ribbies.

LTBF

June 1st, 2011
11:02 am

Things to do online, will check back a bit later.

DS1

June 1st, 2011
11:02 am

scoots

Yeah, FF has been a fun one to watch this year; and will be interesting to see how he adapts. Dude is a true stud at first! He could drop off some and still be my man for 150 games per season at first.

But I do think he’s going to be the real deal. If he can OPS at or near 800 he’ll be around for a long time.

Reasonable

Many folks look at the yearly average. I will admit that I too check out a guy’s current average (and all current numbers), but the most important thing that you are alluding to is “what have you done for me lately” numbers.

ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
11:05 am

Uruguay is an untapped hotbed of outfield talent, and power-hitting 3B are a dime a dozen in Chile.

And Croatia. Don’t forget Croatia.

Lew

June 1st, 2011
11:05 am

LTBF – No deal involving Nate and what remains of his salary will bring the hitter you desire.

Murph

June 1st, 2011
11:08 am

If the pitching falters for any kind of extended term this is a sub .500 team, plain and simple.

I hope they get some scouts to watch the expanded World Baseball Classic… Uruguay is an untapped hotbed of outfield talent, and power-hitting 3B are a dime a dozen in Chile.

DAP

June 1st, 2011
11:10 am

10paul A good reason not to play Schafer every day? He’s “slugged” .286. Another? I refer you to the previous few months discussion of sample size.

doesnt really make sense to use both of them, does it?

look, schafer has played 7 games, and has been on base 14 times. 7 walks, 7 hits. thats good. hes playing fine right now.

there is one really good reason to play schafer everyday, and that is: nate mclouth is on the DL. he will play everyday till then, and we will have a good two weeks or more to evaluate schafer. right now its been 7 days, and hes doing fine.

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
11:10 am

DAP, agreed. My response was to the every day for rest of the year implication. Do not agree with that. And yes, I think his “slugging” is about in line with what to expect from him. Maybe a tad higher but he isn’t a Grady Sizemore, Willie Mays, Andruw Jones, ball-player-with-talent. He can glove but he cannot hit. On a team that is struggling offensively, it doesn’t make sense to run out an even weaker offensive CF than the one currently making $7M… once he’s off the DL and ready to go, of course.

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
11:17 am

Props to scoots for blog-warping by 3 minutes. I thought my 2 minute/2post blog warp was good. I’ll be curious to see if we can get a 4 minute/4 post blog warp

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
11:19 am

I’ll take Liberty, McGuirk and Wren over that bunch any day.

Yes. I’d like to see what McGuirk and Wren could do if Liberty allowed them to spend $135M on the roster. The thing about the Cubs roster is, it was put together poorly. Alfonzo Soriano is on that team and has a huge contract. Wren and Co. would not have done that. But with $135M Wren and Co. probably wouldn’t have one of the worst hitting teams in the league either…

Lew

June 1st, 2011
11:20 am

Everybody complains about the lack of an effective lead off hitter and now that we have one (yes, yes, the dreaded small sample size rules yet again) that is actually getting on base and has plenty of speed, we’re complaining that he doesn’t hit HR?

If power is what you want at lead off, leave Prado there and quit yer bitchin.

DAP

June 1st, 2011
11:20 am

10paul And yes, I think his “slugging” is about in line with what to expect from him. Maybe a tad higher but he isn’t a Grady Sizemore, Willie Mays, Andruw Jones, ball-player-with-talent.

id bet his slugging ability is at least 100 points higher than it is right now. his OBP ability is probably lower, too.

its too soon to tell with schafer. i really dont think he is all the way back right now. health wise he is, but he hasnt played much baseball in the last several years. right now, he is getting his feet wet, and showing good plate discipline….but i think the hits are coming.

ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
11:22 am

I’ll be curious to see if we can get a 4 minute/4 post blog warp

Might be able to get that during an in-game, maybe? Furious posting frequency, and so forth? Worth a try, while we’re waiting for the IT guys to fix it. Anything for small entertainments.

DAP

June 1st, 2011
11:22 am

sam rayurn Reasonable–You made a good point. I looked at Uggla’s numbers and if he somehow got to 600 at bats, he would have to hit .300 for his next 392 at bats to finish at his career average of .258.

oh, so its NOT “statistically impossible”.

Sam Rayburn

June 1st, 2011
11:24 am

Reasonable–You made a good point. I looked at Uggla’s numbers and if he somehow got to 600 at bats, he would have to hit .300 for his next 392 at bats to finish at his career average of .258.I ould say it’s quite a leap for a guy to hit .178 over his first 200 or so AB’s and then hot .300 for his next 400 AB’s.Let’s just have him hit .258 the rest of the year and finish at .230.Right now the Braves would be giddy if he did that.

ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
11:24 am

health wise he is, but he hasnt played much baseball in the last several years.

And, truthfully, that’s a good point. The two years of lost development (at either the minor or major league level, doesn’t really matter) probably isn’t considered much when posters are sizing up Schafer.

Carroll Rogers

June 1st, 2011
11:24 am

One Time’s….For real? You saw Mike Minor give up one earned run in 5 2/3 innings to the Pirates and thought he was pitching crappy? I know he gave up a lot of hits last night but three runs in six innings is called a quality start….If you don’t think there’s a difference in how Minor is s pitching since Milwaukee, then you’re not watching what I’m watching. You’re too busy with your calculator totaling everything up together.

LTBF

June 1st, 2011
11:28 am

Wish there was a site where I could compare player and team stats thru 56 games this season and last season. Anyone know of one? think might be able to do it on baseballreference.com, but don’t know how.

Doc "Mather" Holiday

June 1st, 2011
11:28 am

I Uggla hits .280+20+60 the rest of the way, Id be very happy…………

Venice Jim

June 1st, 2011
11:29 am

Carroll – that’s Lentz under his new name trying to get around his permanent banning – ignore him…

Lew

June 1st, 2011
11:30 am

Ten Paul – You assume that Nate is better offensively than Schafer. You do realize that Nate was only 8 for his last 58 (about a .138 BA) and had fallen to .238 for the season? Water seeks it’s own level – Nate was on the road back to where he was last year.

LTBF

June 1st, 2011
11:32 am

Carroll Rogers 11;24
I could never understand how 3 runs in 6 innS could be called a quality start. that works out to a 4.50 ERA, nOT GOOD.

LTBF

June 1st, 2011
11:33 am

Sorry caps in wrong place last post.

Sam Rayburn

June 1st, 2011
11:36 am

DAP-You’re right it’s not “statistically impossible” but when you factor in who must put up the numbers that is about as “statistically impossible”that I would want to go. This is Dan Uggla.You have seen Dan Uggla. Chipper might hit 30 homers the rest of the year. It’s not impossible. See, I believe it’s this kind of thinking that is burying Uggla because he probably believes he will do it and when he drops deeper and deeper in the hole, he does not change expectations.

keylargo

June 1st, 2011
11:37 am

Although Nate has not done as well as I had expected, he will be back in CF when he is healthy. I don’t care what any blogger has to say, Schafer is not a MLB player. He’s not even AAAA. He’ll never hit and as soon as pitchers adjust to him, the walks will quit.

People keep on about his defense. Really? Henski was ready to deck him after the near collision in RF and AGon was clearly upset with him for having to hit the deck after Schafer’s “I’ve got it – you take it” on a pop up last night.

His arm? Well, he hasn’t thrown anyone out but his bad throw kept the pitcher from being doubled off of second Tues. The next batter drove the pitcher in with the game winning run. Let me say again – no assists from Schafer.

Stolen Bases? He’s one for three and somehow last night with 2 outs in the ninth and a huge dose of “catchers indifference” he “steals” second with no throw. The other two times he was thrown out.

And this is his GOOD STUFF.

Lew

June 1st, 2011
11:39 am

What? No assists from Schafer in his seven games so far? You mean, as opposed to the ONE Nate has had since 09? Of course, one would actually have to throw the ball to the infield (and actually throw someone out) to get an assist.

Time to Trade

June 1st, 2011
11:40 am

What would it take to get Hunter Pence out of Huston? The braves need to trade some of their pitching for an outfielder

keylargo

June 1st, 2011
11:42 am

Lew, take it any way you want to Dude. If people can make a judgement that Schafer is the Braves CFer after 7 games, I can decide he not. DUDE>

Arkansas Transplant

June 1st, 2011
11:47 am

Man, keylargo is always so defensive.

ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
11:47 am

DAP-You’re right it’s not “statistically impossible” but when you factor in who must put up the numbers that is about as “statistically impossible”that I would want to go. This is Dan Uggla.

I’m mostly in agreement with what you’re saying about the probability that he gets to his career average this season, but the guy did hit over .300 for the last three months of 2010. So, it’s not unheard of that he go unconscious for long periods. Not likely, I’d agree, but more than just a hope.

Earl Williams

June 1st, 2011
11:48 am

Tennessee Paul,Just had a scary thought. What if the Marlins spent 70 million on payroll?

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
11:49 am

The two years of lost development probably isn’t considered much when posters are sizing up Schafer.

It factors in largely with my lack of enthusiam for the kid. I haven’t fallen in love with him like some. He has to earn it from me. He’s down below where Prado was before Prado became Prado.

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
11:51 am

Water seeks it’s own level

… so there’s no hope then… slumps don’t happen to McLouth. Hot streaks either. No chance it evens out. Throw him under the bus!

Sam Rayburn

June 1st, 2011
11:51 am

scoots-a friend of mine is an area scout for the Royals.Now an area scout is nowhere close to an advance scout. I’m having dinner with him in Dallas and I’m going to ask him what people in baseball are saying about Uggla. he usually has some good info. I’m surprised we have not read more about allthe “stars” that are scuffling big time. It sounds as if you have watched a lot of baseball.i know I’ve watched a lot of baseball and to me Uggla just looks totally lost.It may be his swing does not lend itself to correction because of all the components. It;s one of the worst swings I’ve ever seen.imagine it would be easier to tweek a fluid golf swing than John Daly’s swing. For this year we are screwed.

ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
11:56 am

[The past two-year black hole] factors in largely with my lack of enthusiam for the kid.

Yeah, and I’ll admit that his luster has dimmed for me, also. I still think he might have the ability to be the player I thought he would be, but I’m just not as sure of it.

Lew

June 1st, 2011
11:57 am

keylargo – Look – Nate is, I;’m sure, a good guy, but he just isn’t getting better like so many thought he would. He’s had since mid 09 with the Braves and still has done nothing but slide further into mediocrity.

Yeah, Schafer has been a stupid kid – didn’t tell his manager he was hurt and then thought he could come back faster than they claimed he could. Wow. Kids do stupid things. What a concept. Never happened before – hope it doesn’t start trend or anything.

But let’s give him some more time than seven games before relegating him to the trash bin like so many would love to do. It sure wouldn’t take much for him to put up a better performance than Nate did. So far he has.

Yeah, it’s only seven games. A shame he’s only had seven hits and seven walks. A shame he’s only had one uncontested stolen base and made one off balance throw on a play that one wouldn’t anticipate having to make a throw on- in only seven games. Still, it’s more than we saw from Nate in his past seven games – unless you want to count all those sacrifices.

Now maybe Schafer flames out – maybe not – but one thing is certain – Nate isn’t getting it done, hasn’t gotten it done for quite some time and seemingly never will – but yeah, he had a great 08, right?

Lew

June 1st, 2011
12:00 pm

TenPaul – Yeah, where did I ever get the idea Nate wasn’t that good. Must be that great artists’ imagination I have. Maybe you need to go look things up. 8 for his last 58. Slump? You mean like the one he had in 2010 – for the entire season minus a ten day period?

ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
12:02 pm

to me Uggla just looks totally lost.It may be his swing does not lend itself to correction because of all the components.

Sam, I just dunno. I keep thinking it’s more in his head than his hands, so to speak, but that’s all part and parcel. When your mind’s not right, it’s tougher to take the cage work into the game. And it’s hard to get your mind right when you’re taking down the middle and swinging on the black. That kind of stuff will make anybody’s swing look bad.

Hey, if it were easy to fix him, it would be done already, right, LOL?

Mtchell

June 1st, 2011
12:03 pm

You know, after watching the last couple games in particular I’ve observed that the Braves have made something official.

They have sent out a clear message to the rest of the National League and it has officially been received.

If you think you can come into our house and push us around, you are correct in your thinking.

We will let you win. In fact, we will not only let you beat us but we will allow you to observe us as we beat ourselves.

By the way, great game last night, huh?

LTBF

June 1st, 2011
12:04 pm

If a leadoff hitter gets on base two times a game, I think that is good

keylargo

June 1st, 2011
12:06 pm

Lew my post was not about Nate. It was about that Jordan Schafer in not a MLB player. He simply is not.

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
12:08 pm

8 for his last 58. Slump?

Hot streak, like when he was 20 for 56 in the previous 56 at bats hitting .357/.471/.554/1.024?

Are you referring to this 2010?

We do throw players with injuries under the bus here. Hell, I’m questioning Schafer…

LTBF

June 1st, 2011
12:08 pm

Still don’t get it that we have trouble beating bad teams yet play well against teams above us.

Powder Blue

June 1st, 2011
12:09 pm

This team is going nowhere.

Carroll Rogers

June 1st, 2011
12:10 pm

just an FYI….word is our IT folks are working hard on the time warp issue…..here’s hoping they fix it up right.

Lew

June 1st, 2011
12:11 pm

TenPaul – Since April of 2010, Nate has hit .209, .315, .331. One hell of a slump – only 133 games. But he’s been injured the entire time, right?

Yep, me and Baseballreference just make these numbers up.

T for Texas

June 1st, 2011
12:11 pm

Listening to Tom Glavine talk about Cliff Lee during last nights broadcast was cracking me up. It seems that the ace lefty from the best rotation ever certainly is unimpressed with the ace lefty from what is supposed to be the new best rotaion ever. Lots of laughs regarding Lee getting rocked in just about every other start leading to a 4-5 record.

space monkey

June 1st, 2011
12:12 pm

This team is awful. Can’t beat cellar dwellers. What a joke.

Bat Masterson

June 1st, 2011
12:12 pm

Lew my post was not about Nate. It was about that Jordan Schafer in not a MLB player. He simply is not.

Well he is today. One of only 700, or so, for what it’s worth.

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
12:12 pm

Schafer after 42 games against weaker pitching: .256/.309/.323/.633

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
12:16 pm

Lew, since April 2010 McLouth has had a hamstring Injury and a concussion. Yeah he was a stupid kid and tried to play through it. What’s new? Kids are stupid. Hell ball-players are rarely accused of being smart. I get that you hate the guy. That’s fine. I like the guy. So I’ll continue to point out his positive traits while you continue to toss him under the bus.

David O'Brien

June 1st, 2011
12:18 pm

The IT folks are aware of the “time warp” problem; they thought they had it fixed a couple days ago, but it returned. They are working hard to try to remedy the situation.

Bat Masterson

June 1st, 2011
12:18 pm

10Paul_

Someone claimed Schafer was the next Willie Mays, really? Must have been Jerry.

LTBF

June 1st, 2011
12:18 pm

Outta here for now. Have a good afternoon y’ll, Hope to be back before gameime.

ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
12:20 pm

Schafer after 42 games against weaker pitching: .256/.309/.323/.633

I’m probably disinclined to use that as a barometer, though, if he were working on redefining his offensive game down there, as it now appears. That’s bound to have had a dampening effect, at least early.

DiamondbackMac

June 1st, 2011
12:21 pm

Tennessee Paul

I’ll be curious to see if we can get a 4 minute/4 post blog warp

Been there, done that stole the T-shirt. It happened to me last night.

DAP

June 1st, 2011
12:23 pm

sam rayburn You’re right it’s not “statistically impossible” but when you factor in who must put up the numbers that is about as “statistically impossible”that I would want to go.

sorry, but im a literalist. “statistically impossible” means it mathematically cant happen, like giving 110%. if all uggla has to do is hit .300 for 400 PAs, its only improbable, or maybe even not “statistically impossible”.

TennesseePaul

June 1st, 2011
12:23 pm

Bat, there was a flurry of outlandish claims made at the first sighting of Schafer in Florida both this year and in 2009.

keylargo

June 1st, 2011
12:23 pm

Lew

I have a bet for you and I to settle this about Schafer. I will send you a couple of coconuts from the trees in my yard if Schafer has better stats in his next 7 games than in his first seven and you can send me a quart or so of Maple Syrup if he has worse. We’ll use BA, OBP, SLG, OPS as categories with OPS+ as a tie breaker.

That’s practically giving you two coconuts with Schafer’s line now —— .250.400 .286 .686

ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
12:24 pm

My favorite thing is that, when Carroll and O’Brien have posted that the IT guys are working on the blog-warp, those posts get blog-warped.

I admit to being easily amused, yes.

mvprado

June 1st, 2011
12:30 pm

I know he’s struggled mightily, but I think Fredi needs to plug Uggla in the four spot for a week or two and see if he can cash in on opportunities to drive in runs.

CF Schafer – has been getting on base since callup
LF Prado – probably Braves best all around hitter
3B Chipper – good at getting OB
2B Uggla
C McCann – would be good protection for Uggla
RF Hinske / Mather (and eventually Heyward)
1B Freeman
SS Gonzalez

This way, you have your three best at getting on base setting up Uggla, McCann, and eventually Heyward. It’s really the ideal way to set the lineup. It’s time for Uggs and Heyward to man up and start performing as we know they are capable of. Then, and only then, will this offense begin to click.

Murph

June 1st, 2011
12:30 pm

I remember when Minor first came up last season and people were comparing him to Tom Glavine.

I never liked Glavine all that much. I was always more of a Smoltz/Maddux guy. It’s kind of whether you are a dog or a cat person. Maddux and Smoltz were dogs, Glavine was a cat. He was a good cat, but still… a cat.

DiamondbackMac

June 1st, 2011
12:31 pm

Lew

You mean, as opposed to the ONE Nate has had since 09?

You mean he got an assist and I missed it? He must have run in and caught that ball 10 feet behind second base.

tony austin

June 1st, 2011
12:33 pm

Until Heyward can prove that he can remain healthy, to me he is a non-factor in the lineup.

ncscoots

June 1st, 2011
12:35 pm

but I think Fredi needs to plug Uggla in the four spot for a week or two and see if he can cash in on opportunities to drive in runs.

The manager who could move a .180 hitter INTO the 4, would clank when he walked. Bottom AND top.

Bat Masterson

June 1st, 2011
12:37 pm

Bat, there was a flurry of outlandish claims made at the first sighting of Schafer in Florida both this year and in 2009.

10Paul

Pretty much par for the course around here, right. I have not had time to follow the blog for the past several days but I’d bet there is not a lot of middle ground, (lets wait and see) concerning Schafer. :lol:

cabravesfan

June 1st, 2011
12:42 pm

Morning all! (Or most ;) )

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David O'Brien

June 1st, 2011
12:43 pm

A good reason not to play Schafer every day? He’s “slugged” .286. — TennPaul

Well, that’s certainly a good reason not to play a leadoff hitter every day. Nevermind his .400 OBP through his first seven games. Let’s focus on slugging, since every person who’s advised him has made it clear that trying to hit homers, like he once did, is exactly what the Braves do NOT need him to do.

Fols

June 1st, 2011
12:46 pm

You guys are going back and forth about Schafer and McLouth. Seriously, shake your heads. Does it matter which one is in there, neither one of them is going to WOW anybody.

I’ll give Schafer the nod only because he’s not McLouth. Either way we’re screwed with those options.

Hinske killed us right off the bat last night. Had a wonderful chance to jump on them early and he strikes out.

I know we question 6 innings, 3 or less runs whether that 4.50 ERA is quality or not. But when a guy goes 3 innings and gives up 3 runs…..on a normal offensive team it means your in the game. That’s all you can ask of these pitchers every night, keep us in the game. It’s up to the bats now to win those games.

They aren’t changing Prado, Chipper, Uggla, McCann, Gonzo, Freeman or Heyward…….those guys just have to start producing and string their hits together. There’s no magic coming from another team, this is it folks. Get used to it.

Fols

June 1st, 2011
12:46 pm

oops………guy goes 6 innings and gives up 3 runs……..

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