1:47 pm May 31, 2011, by Carroll Rogers
June 1st, 20111:25 am
The blog is to much for me tonight with all the name stealing BTW this is me.
A moral victory, we scored 4 runs and Chipper playing hurt went 2 for 3 with 2 BB AND 2 RBI.
OH MY GOD I SOUND LIKE FREDI.
I’ve neverade a trade proposal on the blog and I don’t intend to start now. Have fun walking home from work in the morning!
Good night all!
June 1st, 20111:27 am
We know that’s you, LTBF, since you got an anti-Fredi comment in…
Thank you V.J. now off to bed. Outta here, have a good one or two tonight y’ll.
June 1st, 20111:29 am
moral victories are better than nuttin’
June 1st, 20111:30 am
Good night, Tom and nolie and…
June 1st, 20111:32 am
including tonight’s nine-headed hydra
June 1st, 20111:33 am
June 1st, 20111:34 am
June 1st, 20111:37 am
For “Pete’s Sake?”
Just WHO is the fella Pete? Anyways?
June 1st, 20111:38 am
Blog has signed out for the night -30-
June 1st, 20111:39 am
I “THINK” I get it now?
Pete is all the “Yahoo’s” That cant go by one “Screen Name?”
People who post with multiple user names? ARE ALL FRIED CHICKENS!
This Post was authorized by Fog-Horn Leghorn!!!
‘Course he’s a rooster~ that probably~ eats Fried chicken?
Bravo’s WILL be IN the Playoffs!!!!!!
Call it? “Uggly’s Revenge”
Tip Of The Cap
June 1st, 20111:40 am
Did anyone notice how lazy (and old looking) Parrish was tonight in the dugout? When someone scored he barely got off the bench, patted them on the back and then sat right back down. This dude sucks!
June 1st, 20111:43 am
Still think Milt Thompson would be a good fit for Braves and a slap in the face to Phillies. He could also let our pitchers know Philly batters weaknesses. Can you tell I’m not a Parrish fan?
June 1st, 20112:09 am
Hows it going every one? Good thing is Phillies lost to Nationals 10-2. Which is very funny. To ice the cake Cliff Lee was pitching. Wow….. Your opinions to me is like when I take a dump in the toilet.Wow….. you are meaningless………Escober would’ve have made no difference.Wow……..Your team looked pahtetic tonight, and I just wanted to share my deepest feelings to you. Isn’t it funny when your team looses……… I think so! Yunel is not what the Braves need. We need a Coco Crisp or a Reyes, and I will say it again……
June 1st, 20112:14 am
Good thing is we are still within reach of the Phillies,and 1 game from the Wild Card…….
June 1st, 20112:27 am
Whats up with the Pars and D’backs getting so hot at the same time?
Just got back on…been listening to music since all the bizarre name swiping began back around 11:30…..yikes, @Ward…how you doing? I can’t believe we let the Padres get it last night and failed again to gain on Philly.
June 1st, 20112:28 am
Pads and D’backs
June 1st, 20112:29 am
Tip I believe it might be hard to find anybody who is an actual Parrish fan at this time.
June 1st, 20112:31 am
Captain Mudderland: Games like these can drive you nuts,but I believe the Braves will win tomorrow. Check out Lee and Grant on the History Channel. It’s real good……
June 1st, 20112:35 am
ah well, here we go again.
Its time to say
Good night and good luck.
June 1st, 20112:39 am
Another windbag………….With a whole lot of crap to say. Very Intertaining…….Big Jake have a good one . One Time’s got no case. Has no case……….Case closed, and Court ajourned for tomorrow…….Next Case please……
June 1st, 20112:42 am
I’m so grateful that you explained that metaphor for all us dummies Paul
June 1st, 20112:43 am
I’m gone…..multi-sectional recants are not my gig at this hour….nor is fictional reading material which is grounded in unremarkable ‘retakes.’ Cheers!!!
June 1st, 20112:47 am
One Time’s got no case: Your cased is closed !Go away…….
June 1st, 20112:52 am
You guys are pathetic. We haven’t played close to our best baseball yet, two of our best hitters have done hardly anything, we’ve been battling injuries, and we’re still 30-26!!!! We’re still in great shape, for when things start breaking our way a little bit. It will happen, I just wish some of you could realize this is a 162-game season and get a little perspective. Alas, I know what the odds of that happening are…
June 1st, 20112:55 am
What ever!!!!!!!!!!! We are in good reach ,and still not out of it……..I believe we will be in the Play-Offs…….I’m not pleased with our hitting either,but I believe that it will turn around. Uggla will hit. New team,and once he gets comfortable every thing will follow……Well, I will talk tomorrow, no time for nonsense. “Go!!!!!! Braves!!!!!!!” Night All……
June 1st, 20113:08 am
It’s true that we should expect some regression from the pitching staff. It’s been too darn good to sustain quite at this level. But I personally think it’s a lot closer to where it will be over the long haul as opposed to the offense. JJ and Venters are the only ones that are putting up otherworldly numbers that are unrealistic to sustain, but it’s not like this is coming out of nowhere for them. They should still finish strong, even with some regression. But the offense, I really believe they will get much better than they’ve been so far, simply because they are almost universally playing below their career norms (and in two cases WELL below). With simply finishing the season near career averages for Uggla and Heyward, this offense would be plenty good enough.
June 1st, 20113:14 am
And to be clear, I mean playing the last 4 months at career averages, not playing way above the last 4 months to make it be a career average year by the end of it.
June 1st, 20113:16 am
I think that’s a reasonable expectation.
June 1st, 20113:56 am
Uggla and Heyward will be fine. I’m not worried. And I don’t expect Chipper to hit at career norms. If he continues close to where he is now, that’ll work.
June 1st, 20113:58 am
Why dont we try giving Uggla some protection and move him up to the 2,3,or 4 hole with prado or mccann hitting behind him? He would see better pitches, I mean come on enough is freakin enough fredi gonzalez, shake the lineup around
June 1st, 20114:02 am
oh and I truly believe, and I would love to hear people give logical reasons for this not to be the case, that Fredi Gonzalez is the worst manager we have ever had in Atlanta.. How the hell is Conrad a better option at 2nd.. please, somebody sell that to me.. He is hitting .160 with like one homer and sucks D at defense
Lentz, check his last two starts since he was called back up. Much improved over his first start way back in the first week of April.
June 1st, 20114:06 am
Just got on blog and noticed the comments about the imposter. He used five or six or four regulars’ IDs tonight, including the ones you mentoned and a couple of others, like rob from sc’s for one comment.
Anyway, he’s gone now. He’ll have to get another IP address to get back on, and I’m sure that if/when he does, he’ll do the same thing and it’ll be obvious once again that he’s co-opting others’ names in order to stage a faux conversation in an effort to get attention or advance his agenda, as he did with the Yunel subject Tuesday night.
Anyway, if it happens again, we’ll add his new IP address to the banned list, too. Oh, and all the comments are gone, so no sense looking for them now.
June 1st, 20114:17 am
Lentz, we’re talking about a rookie 5th starter. Yes, that is pitching well.
June 1st, 20114:23 am
Trey…………Damn dude, you hit your 12:45am post so far out of the park, that it caught up with both the Howard and Upton homers that they hit off of Teheran. OTGNC
give me a break, it wasn’t Trey and we all know who it was.
June 1st, 20114:25 am
I decided to come back on. Mike S. No use in talking with Lentz. He has his thinking ,and only his. Escobar is not what the Braves needed ,and he’s not doing a whole lot for the Blue Jays.What the Braves need is a Coco Crisp or a Reyes……….Piss on Escobar……
June 1st, 20114:28 am
June 1st, 20114:29 am
Right now we need hitting ,so I’ll go with another Matt Young call up!
June 1st, 20114:39 am
Mike Minor has been pitching well. Just been over shadowed by lack of offense.Heyward has a sore shoulder, and once his shoulder heals. Heyward will be back to the old . hitting ,with power!Any one who thinks Uggla wont ever hit. Please stay off the weed……
June 1st, 20114:41 am
Uggla haters please stay off the weed……
June 1st, 20114:44 am
All have a good one ,and peace…….Talk tomorrow,and “Go!!!! Braves!!!!”
June 1st, 20117:38 am
The Braves are proving so far to be one streaky team.
June 1st, 20118:15 am
The bloggers have all the answers to run this team..yeah and I have Ted Turner’s money. Uggla should have been in the game last night. This talk of sitting him down.or sending him down to Gwinnett is all counter productive. The only one that can “fix” Uggla, is Uggla. He will work it out on his own. The more talk about sit him or send him down stuff only prolongs the time before he masters his stroke. He is a team player and not doing what he is being paid to do, is putting a lot of pressure on him. Second is pride, not producing is devastating on one’s ego. He will help this team win. Let him be. everything else in counter productive.
June 1st, 20118:27 am
Escobar’s not doing much? Try looking at his numbers, idiot
June 1st, 20118:28 am
Have to say I really enjoyed watching the Nats just pound Clif Lee last night. When Strasburg returns that team is gonna be very tough to beat.
Again another game where the starter was pulled without getting to the 7th inning. Our starters are solid enough to get into the 7th inning or 8th so it would be wise for Fredi to let them. Minor threw maybe 95 pitches last night. Regardless of how good our bullpen is the Braves won’t win a ton of games when the starters don’t get to the 7th or later. Can I get an amen!
June 1st, 20118:35 am
The reason I occasionally scan the in-game stuff is that you can sometimes find a nugget that just makes you laugh out loud at the pure inanity of it (I know, that’s going some to find one inanity that peaks above the masses, but there you go).
My favorite from last night was a post that derided the team for not recognizing pitches for strikes and balls, and then implored them to be patient at the plate (!).
The poster did not explain the methodology for not swinging at pitches out of the zone when you can’t recognize such pitches, but I see that as a minor omission.
Uggla can’t be optioned. Can go down if on injury rehab. I think the Braves will call up Young or Hernandez.
June 1st, 20118:43 am
Just coming back to his norms after an off year, that’s all. Frankly, if the guy had not had a down year offensively, I doubt he would have been traded at all. But he did, and he was, and that’s that.
At least we can now maybe dispense with those posts rationalizing the trade by comparing offensive numbers of the two players, LOL. Gonzalez’s value is in his glove, and the Braves have so far gotten every nickel of value from that.
June 1st, 20118:53 am
Uggla has only hit well in the 4th spot. Can’t get any worse so try:
At least this way you have a good bat in front and behind him. Maybe that would help get him going. Tampa Bay put Longoria in the leadoff position to jump start him.
June 1st, 20118:54 am
When will Heyward be able to start again and when will Beachy return?
June 1st, 20118:58 am
I just saw where Chipper may not play today so here is my adjusted lineup:
June 1st, 20119:04 am
Heyward could well be headed to the 30 day DL. They aren’t rushing him back and he claims that his shoulder isn’t allowing him to work on his swing. Not a good thing. Beachy could be back for the next 5th spot start.
June 1st, 20119:08 am
who am I?
STATS BA HR RBI OBP SLG
2011 Season .300 6 20 .382 .450
Career .290 39 219 .366 .402
June 1st, 20119:15 am
ncscoots I agree completely. Too bad Yunel didnt work out here.
Mike S……….we need MUCH MORE from Chipper Jones than a .257 batting average and 4 homers hitting in the #3 hole….that is if we’re going to contend come September. – One Time’s got no case
That was my point exactly and I got blasted for it. Chipper came up a couple of times where we needed a blast and gave us singles. Good for him but not for us. He is simply no longer a #3 hitter. Unfortunately, I guess Fredi has no choice since Heyward and Uggla have not pulled their weight. If they were hitting as expected, then Chipper could be moved down in the order and we’d be better off. However, that is not the case and we are stuck with a lineup of bench players, no true leadoff hitter, and a bunch of 7 and 8 hitters.
June 1st, 20119:24 am
With attendance already down in MLB, I seriously doubt that bandwagoners like Jim overnight would be missed by the Braves if they just took their disaffection and left. If it’s so painful to watch the Braves, then why bother to do so, much less comment on it.
If you keep it up, you might just start being compared to the supreme disaffected idiot Dentz – back again in yet another incarnation.
June 1st, 20119:26 am
June 1st, 2011
Don’t forget the Nats.
McFann :Ô: :Ô:
June 1st, 20119:31 am
ncbravesfan we are stuck with a lineup of bench players, no true leadoff hitter, and a bunch of 7 and 8 hitters.
McCann, Prado, and even Chipper at this stage of his career are neither bench players nor 7 or 8 hitters. But I guess it’s true they’re not lead-off hitters, though Prado’s not terrible there…
June 1st, 20119:32 am
Y’all do realize that right before this current (not quite) tailspin, that the Braves started the month going 12-4 – without Heyward hitting, without Uggla hitting, without Nate doing much, without Freeman hitting – etc. Just as possible that they go back to that level of winning as having a protracted losing streak – which they really haven’t done despite all the moaning and groaing to the contrary.
June 1st, 20119:33 am
We have not had a true leadoff hitter since Furcal’s first two years. Scoring runs starts at the top. Schaefer appears capable of producing numbers at least no worse than McLouth with twice the defense McLouth can play. Unless Wren happens upon a must-do trade, I expect to see Schaefer at leadoff and McLouth platooning the OF as needed.
Nobody expects big power numbers from Chipper any longer. If he even approaches 15-20 homers that is great. He is still a good 3 hitter though when he is in there. Until Heywars starts rounding into shape we don’t have much of an option there. Maybe Freeman can handle the 3 spot but fredi ain’t bumping Chipper for Freeman. No way.
June 1st, 20119:38 am
McLouth platooning the OF as needed.
Platooning where? Heyward is a lefty, Schafer is a lefty, so there’s no platoon advantage.
The Braves are not going to sit McLouth on the bench 5 days a week. They aren’t going to trade him and hand over CF to Schafer, with no safety net, based on 50 ABs. So what’s left? If Nate’s healthy, he plays. Schafer goes down to keep playing every day.
That’s what I’d do, anyway. Always possible the FO sees it differently.
June 1st, 20119:39 am
dadgum… We have not had a true leadoff hitter since Furcal’s first two years.
there is no definition of “true leadoff hitter”. people still say it over and over.
Dadgum – I get the feeling that the Chipper can’t hit contingent gets their wish tonight and will see someone else hitting third and playing 3B – Chipper looks like he’ll get day off. He was hobbling a bit last night and Simpson ket saying it looked like he’d suffered a groin strain.
June 1st, 20119:41 am
Good morning all
The Braves went 17-11 in May. They must have done it with smoke and mirrors. NOT They did it with great pitching, but how long will that hold up? The lineup must produce.
June 1st, 20119:43 am
In this era of lower scoring games and pitching prowess, the Braves can be right there at the end but our starting pitching must get deeper into games and start getting some w’s. If not the bullpen will get hit more than Chuck Wepner in an Ali fight. Folks, that’s a ton.
June 1st, 20119:44 am
Maybe Yunel just likes paying taxes in two countries? Maybe the dome on the Jays stadium blocks the cosmic rays which cause him to lose focus? Maybe he likes turf? Maybe he finally realized he’d better change his evil ways, baby?
Who knows. He ain’t a Brave anymore.
Way to go DOB….keep the blog clean and free of those people or that person responsible for assuming blog monikers and upsetting the ebb and flow.
Strange to say, but as modest as Chipper’s numbers have been, you could make a case for him making the all-star team at 3B.
Just going by OPS, Ryan Roberts (ARZ) is the clear leader at .851; then Chipper is tied with Palanco at .772; He’s also 2nd in SGL among NL 3B, and first in RBI with 31.
I’m not so much singing Chipper’s praises as pointing out how weak the NL 3B position is this year. Wouldn’t mind at all seeing the old man make the AS team once (or twice) more, though. It wouldn’t be without merit, at this point.
(a couple of guys, Dobbs at FL and Wigginton at CO are having pretty good years but not enough PA to qualify; still could make the AS game, though)
Coach ( 2011 Fredi G. a Go!)
June 1st, 20119:45 am
2010 Braves……overachievers. In the playoffs.
2011 Braves…..underachievers. No playoffs.
Lew..yep, if Chipper is hurt that changes things. As we have opined many times, Chipper might only play 100 games. Right now, I am betting that when Heyward gets back Chipper goes on the 30 day DL and has miniscus surgery. He is playing hurt now and any tweak at all he won’t be able to get another cortisone shot. He is gutting it out for the team now but I think the Braves will sit him down through the all star break to get the knee scoped. We will need Chipper in the 2nd half.
I’m still not sold on the “year of the pitcher” thing. When temps start going up, so does scoring. If the leagues are still being offensively challenged in July, maybe I can get behind the idea.
June 1st, 20119:47 am
dadgum, no such thing as a 30-day DL, I don’t think. 15 or 60.
June 1st, 20119:50 am
Coach ( 2011 Fredi G. a Go!)
June 1st, 2011
No truer words.
June 1st, 20119:51 am
One Times got no case:
I read the overnights and he knocks every one, no wait to be fair think he used the word “outstanding” for the pitching. I think he must be the dreaded “Paul”.
June 1st, 20119:52 am
MikeinFl- They mentioned last night that Chipper was currently second in the All Star voting to Polanco and McCann second to Posey.
June 1st, 20119:53 am
Mixxo – You and Coach would say the same thing if the Braves had a ten game lead. Y’all’s glasses aren’t constantly half full, they’re usually empty.
June 1st, 20119:54 am
LTBF – Yep, he’s baaaaccck.
June 1st, 20119:55 am
’scoots, I don’t think it’s “this year.” It’s a trend. Scoring has dropped every year since 2006.
2011 4.22 (so far)
I agree it’s likely to rise some with the temps, but I do think we’re in a low-scoring era (if five years can be called an “era”)
AGREE CO-SIGN. Chipper not the slacker a lot of bloggers were saying last year and some this year. He is giveing to his all and I think he has done so his whole career.
June 1st, 20119:57 am
June 1st, 2011
Wrong again my friend. This team should be in first place right now. Not third place and that’s the truth that your rose colored glasses can’t see.
June 1st, 201110:01 am
MikeInFl, I think thirdbase is an odd position and has been throughout the history of baseball. If a guy is a really good fielder with a strong arm, he plays shortstop. If he’s a really good fielder with a weaker arm, he plays second. If he’s a big-time hitter who can play infield and/or is left-handed, he plays firstbase. Thirdbasemen are usually the guys who are better infielders than firstbasemen, have stronger arms than secondbasemen but don’t have as much range as second and thirdbasemen. So the guys that end up at third have sort of an odd combination of defensive skills, which probably explains why there are so few who have that combo and are also great hitters and why there are fewer thirdbasemen in the Hall than other positions. Just a theory and a thought.
June 1st, 201110:05 am
Mike, I can probably go along with “lower-scoring”. But some folks here seem to think we’re destined for early-60s, Gibson-Koufax stuff, and I don’t consider a 4.5 runs average quite on that level. A couple-three years below 4.5, and I might start relinquishing my death-grip on three-run-homers, LOL.
June 1st, 201110:09 am
I do not beleave Jordan S will ever be a “great” player, but he sure plays the game hard. I hope he hits well enough to stay in CF after Nate comes off the list. The kid has a arm, Nate does not.
June 1st, 201110:12 am
shaun, one other ingredient important to 3rd baseman (and 1st baseman) : good hands. it really takes alot of skill to catch a ball the right way as a corner infielder. your point is right, just thought id add that…good hands and a strong arm is why chipper makes a good 3rd baseman.
June 1st, 201110:13 am
.400 OBP says Schaffer will stay in the line up.
June 1st, 201110:14 am
Boy, just reading at MLBTR about the Cubs and their trade options now that they’re pretty much out of it.
Talk all you want about wanting a bigger payroll, but that is one mess of a roster at $135 mil. I’ll take Liberty, McGuirk and Wren over that bunch any day.
June 1st, 201110:15 am
Minor deserved a better fate lastnight.
June 1st, 201110:16 am
Currently on pace at 3.9 RPG to score 632 runs for the season! That would be a record low for the past 20+ years not counting shortened seasons. I think we all new it was bad, but not this bad. The good thing(light at the end of the tunnel) is that our pitching is on pace to allow fewer runs than even in the age of the Big Three. Will either of these numbers hold up? I wouldn’t bet on it. But with 1/3 of the season on the books it is an indicator that this team is headed towards the recent record books as being the worst offensive team in quite some time. What a shame we can’t couple even avg hitting with our great pitching. If the offense doesn’t correct, it will undoubtedly put too much pressure on our pitching for it to possibly sustain itself in current fashion.
June 1st, 201110:17 am
He’ll need more than bunts and bingles to OBP at .400, though. Pitchers will dare him to swing if they begin to think he can’t hurt them.
June 1st, 201110:18 am
MikeInFl, i was telling my buddy who is a cubs fan a couple days ago…and i tell him this often…the cubs are going to suck until at least after the 2014 season. this is when alfonso soriano’s contract expires. that team has a high payroll, but is so top heavy with mediocre players, they cant win anything. soriano and zambrano head that list. the cubs have to cleanse the roster if they are ever going to do anything.
June 1st, 201110:19 am
Way too early IMO to draw conclusions about Schafer’s career, either way. Whats he had, a handful of major league games?
June 1st, 201110:21 am
Ncscoots…..It will be interesting to see the splits at the all star break. Right now I am guessing the Braves are ahead of the curve when scoring less than 4 runs in a game. If pitching continues to dominate we will see more than our share of 1-run and extra inning games. For the Braves to be successful in that realm the starters must pick up wins getting deeper into the game.
Schafer is faster, stronger arm, better defensive, equal or better bat than McLouth. Absolutely no way he is sent back to Gwinnett in favor of McLouth. Sans injury of course. It is a fact McLouth is gone next year and we have a young better option this year. Give me one good reason to start McLouth over Schaefer day in and day out. Not saying he can’t help us off the bench and not saying Schaefer has an ideal resume for leadoff given the small sample, but without a trade Schafer is the Braves best option in CF right now. Without question. Also I wouldn’t be shocked to see Wren trade McLouth and a lower level pitching prospect before the deadline to help this club in the 2nd half.
June 1st, 201110:22 am
This offense is muy bad. Muy, muy bad.
3 years of high school spanish at work there.
Coach – Wrong as usual (not overly surprising). I don’t wear rose colored glasses – I’m fully aware of exactly what’s going on with the Braves, considering I haven’t missed a game in several seasons.
I just realize that it’s only a third of the way through the season – there’s still 106 games left – and that Uggla won’t hit .178 for the entire season.
The major difference is that I put yesterday behind me, look forward to the next game and at season’s end, I wait eagerly for the next season. You, on th other hand, cash your chips in at the first sign of bumpy waters.
You do realize we have a winning record, just finished a winning month, we’re still in the race and that there’s lots of time left to catch the Phillies and Marlins?
June 1st, 201110:23 am
Show of hands, please: When we didn’t sign Ankiel and Melkey during the off-season, who thought we’d miss their bats?
June 1st, 201110:25 am
Minor was average at best last night. Allowed 12 baserunners at almost 100 pitches over 6 innings. Don’t let the two runs allowed fool you. It could have been worse.
June 1st, 201110:27 am
Lets see I have commented on 3rd base and CF, might as well do the rest, might stir some folks up.
C] Brian, can’t do better, best in league.
1stB] Freddy, he has done about as expected as a rookie, very good in field, saved a lot of errors.
2ndB] Dan, he must hit for us to win much.
SS] Alex, Better than Escobar
LF] Martin, haveing a slightly off year hitting, needs rest of season to be like last year.
Rf] Jason, still think he is a Kingman type hitter, not near as great as his hype.
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