Braves’ hitting woes deepen; Arroyo anyone?

Tonight the Braves are facing a pitcher, Bronson Arroyo, who has been pretty awful in May, with an 0-3 record and 6.90 ERA. Which, of course, means the Braves are in trouble.

The Braves have struggled particularly against struggling or young pitchers. They face a struggling one tonight, Cincinnati's Bronson Arroyo.

The Braves have struggled particularly against struggling or young pitchers. They face a struggling one tonight, Cincinnati's Bronson Arroyo.

Because while they have difficulty scoring against just about any pitcher lately, these Braves have struggled especially against mediocre or struggling pitchers, guys with 5-plus ERAs, and/or pitchers they’ve not seen before.

Give ‘em a Cliff Lee and they go to work. Give ‘em a Marco Estrada, Jake Westbrook or Mike Leake and it’s trouble for the Bravos.

But like we said, right now it doesn’t seem to matter who they’re facing. The Braves, they just ain’t scoring. So when they get behind early, like Friday night against Cincy, it can be particularly difficult to watch them try to play come-from-behind.

(By the way, the Braves have lost 18 of 28 games against the Reds since the beginning of the 2007 season.)

Here’s a few numbers that detail the scope of the Braves’ offensive woes:

• They have scored 14 runs in the in their past seven games (3-4) and gone without a home run in six of the past eight.

• They have scored 27 runs in their last 11 games, which explains how they have just a 6-5 record in that span despite a 2.93 ERA. They’ve scored three runs or fewer in eight of those 11.

• They are 9-9 with a 3.24 ERA in their past 18 games, scoring 56 runs in that span.

Despite their excellent pitching, the Braves seem to fall behind a lot, don’t they?

Yes, a couple of their pitchers have had problems in the early innings. But a bigger reason for those early deficits is probably the fact that the Braves have scored just 126 runs in the first through sixth innings of 52 games.

Only the Dodgers, Giants and Padres have scored fewer runs in the first six innings.

This current 9-9 span for the Braves came immediately after an 11-3 stretch in which it looked like they were putting things together and might even take over the division lead like they did for three months last season.

They hit .260 while scoring 76 runs and posting a 2.31 ERA during that 14-game run through May 6, before the current 9-9 stretch began.

Arroyo has been either terrible or terrific in most recent starts against the Braves. He’s 4-3 with a 6.23 ERA in his past eight against them. That includes three wins where he gave up one or no runs in seven innings and four starts where he gave up five or more runs in 5-2/3 or fewer innings.

But in his past two against them, one in ’09 and one in ‘10, Arroyo has allowed just one run in 14 innings. He won both of those.

BRAVES LINEUP for Saturday

  1. Schafer CF
  2. Prado LF
  3. Chipper 3B
  4. McCann C
  5. Hinske RF
  6. Uggla 2B
  7. Freeman 1B
  8. Gonzalez SS
  9. Lowe RH

♣ Kimbrel gives up a homer: In his 51st big-league appearance, Craig Kimbrel finally gave up a home run Friday.

He came in to pitch the ninth with the Braves trailing 3-1 – Fredi Gonzalez’s explanation in a moment – and gave up a two-run homer to Ramon Hernandez.

It was the third two-run outing for Kimbrel in 10 appearances over 17 days, and the rookie closer has a 5.79 ER and .270 opponents’ average in that span, with 10 hits and six runs allowed in 9-1/3 innings.

Kimbrel went 4-0 with a 0.34 ERA and .132 opponents’ average in his first 27 regular-season appearances, giving up just one earned run, 10 hits and 17 walks with 50 strikeouts in 26-2/3 innings.

In 20 appearances since then, beginning April 17, he has a 4.26 ERA and .225 opponents’ average, with 16 hits, nine earned runs, 11 walks and 28 strikeouts in 19 innings. He has a 1-2 record and 10-of-14 saves converted in that span.

Kimbrel was bitten by the leadoff walk again last night. Here’s what first batters faced have done against him this season: 4-for-20 with six walks, 10 K, .385 OBP.

Once Kimbrel gets going, he’s been close to unhittable. But some have taken advantage of his occasional early command issues.

In the first 15 pitches of his appearances this season, hitters are 16-for-65 (.246) with nine walks and 22 strikeouts against Kimbrel. But after his 15th pitch, hitters are just 3-for-25 (.120) with three walks and 16 strikeouts.

Lowe hasn't pitched particularly well or deep into games since mid-April. He'll try to get back on track tonight.

Lowe hasn't pitched particularly well or deep into games since mid-April. He'll try to get back on track tonight.

Asked why Kimbrel was used in the ninth inning of a home game with the Braves trailing 3-1 on Friday, Gonzalez said: “Trying to keep the game right there. Trying to keep the [deficit] to two runs. Out of the [relievers] that we had left — we had [Jonny] Venters and we had [Cristhian] Martinez –  he [Kimbrel] is the only guy we feel comfortable throwing [just] one inning.

“The other guys we could throw two innings. Venters could throw two innings if we tie it. Martinez could throw four or five. The whole game you’ve got this gut feeling, and you go, Craig’s going to give you one inning right here and if we tie it, Venters can give you two, and Martinez can give you the rest.”

♣ Dan Uggla update: The Braves 2B has hit .176 (30-for-170) with a .568 OPS in 45 games going back to April 8, with five homers, 14 RBIs and 41 strikeouts.

Uggla is 7-for-61 (.115) with one extra-base hit (a homer), 2 RBI and a .396 OPS in his past 15 games (.226 OBP, .170 slugging).

His .125 average (6-for-48) with runners in scoring position is fifth-lowest in the NL, and none of the four players with averages as low as his have as many at-bats as Uggla in those situations (three have 33 or fewer at-bats with RISP).

His .183 overall average is second-worst among NL qualifiers, ahead of only ex-Brave Adam LaRoche (.172), who’s been playing with a torn labrum. Uggla’s .250 OBP is second-worst to Miguel Tejada’s .242.

His .585 OPS is third-worst behind LaRoche (.546) and Tejada (.522)

♣ Etc. Starting tonight for the Braves is Derek Lowe, who is 1-2 with a 4.62 ERA in his past seven starts. This after he’d gone 7-2 with a 1.46 ERA in nine starts from Sept. 1 through April 16. Lowe is 4-1 with a 1.78 ERA in his past five games (four starts) against the Reds…. It’s just three games, but Jordan Schafer has hit .308 (4-for-13) with 2 walks, 1 strikeouts and a .400 OBP batting leadoff since arriving from Triple-A….Several Braves have hit well against Reds starter Bronson Arroyo. Brian McCann is 6-for-14 with 2 HRs and 5 walks; Chipper Jones is 11-for-27 with 3 HRs, 10 RBIs and 6 walks; Eric Hinske is 11-for-28 with a homer, and Dan Uggla is 5-for-14 with a homer…. Scott Linebrink has a .100 opponents’ average in his past five scoreless appearances, including two innings Friday. He had a 12.60 ERA and .480 OA in his previous eight appearances…. Alex Gonzalez is a majors-worst 0-for-17 with runners in scoring position and two outs. McCann is 9-for-19 in those situations, fifth-best in the NL.

We’ll close with vintage Haggard, which you can hear by clicking here.

Branded+Man,+Merle+Haggard

“I’M A LONESOME FUGITIVE” by Merle Haggard

Down every road there’s always one more city
I’m on the run, the highway is my home
I raised a lot of cane back in my younger days
While Mama used to pray my crops would fail
I’m a hunted fugitive with just two ways:
Outrun the law or spend my life in jail

I’d like to settle down but they won’t let me
A fugitive must be a rolling stone
Down every road there’s always one more city
I’m on the run, the highway is my home

I’m lonely but I can’t afford the luxury
Of having one I love to come along
She’d only slow me down and they’d catch up with me
For he who travels fastest goes alone

I’d like to settle down but they won’t let me
A fugitive must be a rolling stone
Down every road there’s always one more city
I’m on the run, the highway is my home

I’m on the run, the highway is my home

1,483 comments Add your comment

mathman

May 28th, 2011
3:00 pm

Schafer is the spark.

mathman

May 28th, 2011
3:03 pm

Trying to show you people how to post with class. Go Gators. Beat Dawgs.

ITALIAN_29

May 28th, 2011
3:05 pm

First, by default. LOL

ITALIAN_29

May 28th, 2011
3:05 pm

Innocent Bystander

May 28th, 2011
3:07 pm

Wouldn’t mind trading Lowe soon. Afraid he’s about to hit a cold streak and lose a ton of value.

Fredi's Fu Manchu

May 28th, 2011
3:08 pm

I’m with you mathman. Since Nate’s been handed 1.5 yrs I only hope Schafer gets more than 2 weeks.

Trey

May 28th, 2011
3:08 pm

SB, that was an awesome video from the last blog.

Braves95WS

May 28th, 2011
3:09 pm

DOB, any word on the Braves trying to add a bat with the current lack of offensive production?

Oregon Brave

May 28th, 2011
3:10 pm

mathman. I see how you do it. How about “Go Ducks. Beat LSU Tigers.” Good job DOB. Good to hear some real music now and then. Don’t much care for the “feed lot” singers flooding the country music scene nowadays. Go Braves.

wayn-o

May 28th, 2011
3:10 pm

I’m sick of hearing “tip your cap he pitched a good game tonight” from braves hitters

ady

May 28th, 2011
3:13 pm

Pujols for Schafer lol

BFChris26

May 28th, 2011
3:13 pm

Arroyo can hit too.

So please Lowe, pitch good tonight.

extremus

May 28th, 2011
3:13 pm

You never can really tell what you have on paper going into a season. The Braves’ pitching is at least on par with a Phillies staff that many were lauding as “the best ever”, while the emphasis to address the hitting (especially from the right side) has gone from a sure thing to at least an early disaster with Dan Uggla. But across the board, the most glaring reason this team is so inconsistent and frustrating to watch is the hitting. They’re not just making gut-wrenching outs; quite often they’re not making contact. It’s got to be deflating to our pitchers when they give up an early run or two and realize that may well be the difference in the outcome; good as they’ve been, it’s unfair to ask them to be perfect. I agree with the post above; Schafer has given the Braves a dimension (speed) that they haven’t had AT ALL so far; they need to find a place for him. As for the rest, however, let’s hope they somehow turn things around or the Braves will not be playing come October.

jeffrey d

May 28th, 2011
3:14 pm

Thanks for the blog, DOB

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Bat Masterson

May 28th, 2011
3:29 pm

Nice work, DOB………… depressing numbers

Does anyone have any kool-aid left? I’ve run slam damn out

T for Texas

May 28th, 2011
3:31 pm

Thanks for the new blog, David.

It is a little bit disconcerting that Chipper feels he has to call out the team for lack of intensity in games against lesser clubs, and in the early innings of most all games. On the surface this seems like a high character team that would not have to be spurred by their de-facto captain in the media.

DC Braves Fan

May 28th, 2011
3:37 pm

I’m starting to miss Bobby (well, I missed Bobby the day he left, because he was one of the very best). The explanation for using your closer, who has had a lot of work already, in a game where you’re down by 2 runs was beyond convoluted. What, was Freddi playing for a 15-inning game? Did he watch the Phillies/Reds and get scared? You don’t use your closer there. Teams go through rough stretches, and that’s usually a good time to give the best bullpen guys a rest. Instead, we took a game we likely weren’t going to win anyway and wasted an appearance for our closer.

Terrible move, even worse explanation for it.

eddiemathews57

May 28th, 2011
3:38 pm

Enter your comments here Why is Uggla still batting anywhere but 8th? He’ll have to be hotter than he’s ever been to reach a 240 average. Will Freddi ever argue bad calls?

Snotboogie

May 28th, 2011
3:41 pm

Glad you liked it Trey.

cabravesfan

May 28th, 2011
3:42 pm

In the last 10 days, Kimbrel has thrown 41/3 innings…not exactly a strenuous amount…

IVAN ...

May 28th, 2011
3:43 pm

MATHMAN ON WRONG PAGE …………..

GO DAWGS …………………..

FSUBraves

May 28th, 2011
3:43 pm

people need to understand that last year was an abberation, and this years team is just not very good..poorly constructed…

Oregon Brave

May 28th, 2011
3:46 pm

How come nobody beats up on the batting coach? TP was the most abused coach ever, but at least he taught the batters how take a walk. And what’s up with all these swings at pitches in the dirt? The line-up is pretty feeble this year. On the positive side, I did like the Spaceballs helmet Schaffer wore in Pittsburg. Go Braves.

Ray K.

May 28th, 2011
3:48 pm

What will probably happen, since this team rarely seems to be able to run on all cylandars, is Dan will finally, mercifully, come out of his slump, Chipper will go on a tear, and then, our pitching will collapse. Venters will suddenly crash to earth, and we will start losing games 8-7. They just haven’t been able to click consistently in all or even most facets of the game in several years.

monty

May 28th, 2011
3:49 pm

Team hitting line for the year is: .242-.310-.380-.690. But it’s really worse than that because our bench players have higher stats than the starters.( Although I guess you could call Hinske a starter now). The highest any “regular” player is slugging is Chipper at a paltry .431 and he leads in OPS with a decent, but unspectacular .784. We maybe the only team to not have a starter with at least a .450 slugging % or with an .800 OPS. Yikes!

ChrisfromSacramento,Ca

May 28th, 2011
3:50 pm

PLEASE WIN!!

count_schemula

May 28th, 2011
3:55 pm

Pepe Frias is available.

Snotboogie

May 28th, 2011
3:56 pm

Team hitting line for the year is: .242-.310-.380-.690.

A lineup full of A.Gonzs!

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

May 28th, 2011
3:56 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Chief!

OK, well, hate to eat and run, but I gotta head out now…time to go to a cousin’s graduation party. Those are always kinda awkward ’cause we usually wind up not knowing like, half the people there, and I’m spending the entire party in constant fear that, when people are talking about going to collage, someone’s going to turn to me and ask that gets-more-awkward-everytime-it’s-asked question, “And what about you?”

But perhaps when the time comes, Grandma cann persuade them to put the game one…she’s pretty good at that. :P

Later!!

Bob the Blogger

May 28th, 2011
3:56 pm

Until Kimbrel refines his control, Venters should be the closer. They both have dominating stuff, but closing is hard enough without spotting the opposing team extra base runners.

cabravesfan

May 28th, 2011
3:59 pm

Speaking of our closerl-

Happy 23rd Birthday Kimmeh!

BFChris26

May 28th, 2011
4:01 pm

Happy B-Day goes out to Kimbrel 8-)

Ray K.

May 28th, 2011
4:03 pm

Kimbrel is fine, folks. He is on pace for 30 or so, and has been, for the most part, effective. Start tinkering with him and see what happens. We saw what he did last night in a non save situation. These guys are weird about their routines. plus, if you relegate Venters to closer, you remove the ability to let him go 2 innings.

noleee

May 28th, 2011
4:03 pm

BAS I don’t think you read my one post thoroughly my friend. I said that it might be one huge outlier where every player on the team is taking an OBP dump at the same time and totally forgot over the winter how to draw a walk,, which is what you seem to be saying. Perhaps so, seems pretty coincidental, but is certainly a possibility and if so like I said it is all on the players.
However if you are watching all the at bats it seems obvious that they are being more aggressive earlier in the count that they used to be,even Chipper -who I agree would likely not be affected much by Parrish but was used mostly to show how putrid the team OBP is at this point.
All kinds of possibilities no doubt. But I’m still betting that Larry and Fredi are trying a different approach, to whatever degree,if any, that might be the cause of the problem.
I think I remember a statement about Parrish believing in an aggressive approach, but I might be misremembering since I can’t find it now. Or it might have been about his hitting career for that matter.
In the end, no matter what or why it is incumbent upon the players to produce and that is where most of the problem always is no matter whether its Bobby or Fredi, Larry or Terry.

MB

May 28th, 2011
4:04 pm

Arroyo? I definitely won’t be watching tonight. We’ll likely lose 5-1 again.

noleee

May 28th, 2011
4:04 pm

rying to show you people how to post with class. ,,,mathman

yeah that was such a classy statement…. ;)

J-Man

May 28th, 2011
4:06 pm

Even when McClouth and Heyward return there really won’t be much difference offensively. Heyward has struggled all year and McClouth( while improving tremendously) is not a real offensive threat (25 HR 100 RBIs type of player). I think the Braves will need to make a trade. (But for who). The problem for the Braves is that they really lack a superstar and they have no offensive threat. I think we should try to package McClouth(expiring contract), Mike Minor, Vizicaino, and 2 other minor leaguers for Matt Kemp. The Dodgers are in finicial ruin and I think will soon dump players (AKA 98 Marlins) obviously we will have to give him a $100+ million contract I think its a move that must be made or this team will win 85-90 games and miss the playoffs(like 2 years ago)

cabravesfan

May 28th, 2011
4:07 pm

J-Man

Why would the Dodgers make that deal? McLouth is making nearly as much as Kemp and is not close to the player…that deal would make zero sense.

daniel buck

May 28th, 2011
4:08 pm

Tell em John Smoltz and Ryan Klesko sent ya!!!!

Ray K.

May 28th, 2011
4:09 pm

J-Man,
I don’t know if I’d say Nate improved “tremendously.” He seemed more sure of himself at the plate, but he was on pace for 7 HR’s and 7 stolen bases.
He was just less bad.

Jt

May 28th, 2011
4:09 pm

Their hitting woes are evident. Its hard to both watch and understand. I hold no credence to any blame upon hitting coach but if TP was still the hitting coach I wonder if voices would be calling for his job. But it sure makes you wonder what it is. Uggla is at the plate what Steve Sax was to a routine throw to first base. Tough to watch. Looks like he is wound way too tight. How do you fix that? That’s mental. Some have wondered in relation to McClouth that it is easier to be successful in PIT than in a more pressure lineup like ATL. Hope that is not the case-jus sayin. Maybe Shaffer’s speed will help- cause I dang sure don’t know. Major league hitters should hit regardless of place in lineup. Somebody has to step up and its not going to be from trying harder- work ethic is not the problem

Ray K.

May 28th, 2011
4:12 pm

A friend of mine from Chicago just sent me the Cubs box score against the Pirates, with a big bold sarcastic LOL in the subject heading. They lost 10-0, mustering up 3 hits.

I guess it could be worse, guys.

Pete

May 28th, 2011
4:12 pm

The Braves are once again on the road to shattering their own annual record of “stranded base runners”.
They have become un-watchable.

Yawn……………………………………………………………………………………

gotigers72

May 28th, 2011
4:12 pm

Kimbrell really needs to work on getting out the first batter he faces, and especially not walking that batter. That’s a “DUH” statement huh? Methinks it’s time to switch he and Venters, but methought that 15-20 games ago. Why not let the best reliever in baseball close games for you? Because you want to lose MORE close games? It’s obvious that Kimbrell is struggling and Venters is not. Keep making poor decisions Fredi.

Is it against the law for a team to score 5-6 runs in a game at least OCCASIONALLY? To go game after game after game scoring 1,2 or 3 runs is just unacceptable. The offense is the reason that the Braves’ big three relievers have so many appearances. If the O doesn’t start putting up some runs, there will be some relievers arms falling off as they pitch.

ChrisfromSacramento,Ca

May 28th, 2011
4:13 pm

Heyward sucks!!!! Period. Overrated joke!!

monty

May 28th, 2011
4:14 pm

Since the beginning of July last season (135 games) the team is only 11 games over .500 for a .548 winning %. This year it is .538. Say .548 holds true for the rest of the year, we win 88 games. Or we could suddenly out of the blue play like last May- an anomally?

noleee

May 28th, 2011
4:16 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised to see it improve some monty simply because so many players are playing below their career norms. Some at least are likely to regress towards them as the season goes along.

Rick

May 28th, 2011
4:18 pm

Rolen for the Reds, is the doppleganger of actor Kevin Spacey

Ward

May 28th, 2011
4:18 pm

Good article DOB: Braves Fans I share your pain. I let my pain outlast night. It felt pretty good……..

Bat Masterson

May 28th, 2011
4:19 pm

I let my pain outlast night. It felt pretty good…….. _ Ward

Ward_

So are you saying you feel gay today?

Ray K.

May 28th, 2011
4:20 pm

Heyward doesn’t suck, but he certainly has been a bit of a letdown. Honestly, I don’t think Hinske is much of a defensive downgrade. Jason’s instincts out there in RF are pretty suspect. He could still evolve into something special if he stays healthy and works on his hitting approach, but as of now, he is NOT stuff of legend. Not even close.

Ward

May 28th, 2011
4:21 pm

Latest interest in trades- Coco Crisp, and Hunter Pence…….Braves haven’t done any thing yet! Are interested in These tow guy’s……

Ray K.

May 28th, 2011
4:22 pm

Rick,
I know Kevin. I think he’d find your comparison amusing.
But Rolen is much pastier than Kevin.

J-Man

May 28th, 2011
4:23 pm

well compared to what “McOUT” hit last season I would call it a tremendous improvement. And the thing about Mcclouth making about the same as Kemp thats true but he has a $500k buyout next season and thats when the Dodgers would save basically your throwing him in to fiil up a spot until he is a free agent the real deal would be Minor, Vizicaino, and the 2 other draft picks. Now obviously im not a GM but its gonna take something like that to get a Kemp and I personally think he is the best fit play to come here. definately better than the other tradable players (Jose Reyes, Prince Fielder, Adam Jones, Chone Figgins, or Michael Borne.

The Grinch

May 28th, 2011
4:24 pm

Rick, I thought the same thing about Rolen. Dead ringer for Spacey, though obviously more masculine.

J-Man, a 25 HR/100 RBI guy would be a lovely offensive threat to have. But that doesn’t come close to describing Nate McLouth.

Ward

May 28th, 2011
4:24 pm

Meant to say two there……It should be interesting to see what Wren does?

StingerSplash

May 28th, 2011
4:24 pm

Well, first song on the radio today when I cranked up the ride was “Ring of Fire” by Social Distortion. Gotta be a good day then, huh?

jamievhore

May 28th, 2011
4:25 pm

mathman is a fag.

Ward

May 28th, 2011
4:27 pm

Bat Masterson: I’m very Happy today! I can sing Amazing Grace,as of now!

J-Man

May 28th, 2011
4:28 pm

Grinch i said that Mcclouth has improved but is not the 25 100 RBI player we need

Realtalk

May 28th, 2011
4:29 pm

Chris you suck! That is total BS.

Bat Masterson

May 28th, 2011
4:29 pm

Hallelujah, Ward

monty

May 28th, 2011
4:29 pm

Nolie-”Some at least are likely to regress towards them as the season goes along.”

Yeh, you gotta believe so. Waiting for norms to correct themselves is like seeing a car coming towards you crossing into your lane 1/4 mile away, you know in your head chances are he’s going to correct himself, but your heart is doing it’s part irregardless.

cabravesfan

May 28th, 2011
4:31 pm

J-Man

I meant McLouth is not nearly as good as Kemp, obviously. And if you include the buyout, Nate is making $100,000 more than Kemp is…bottom line, Dodgers are not going to trade Kemp. The financial situation is going to be cleared up in one of two ways- either the McCourts fail to make June payroll (they are covered for May) and MLB forces a sale OR MLB approves the deal between FOX and the team, which is worth an estimated $3 billion and would give them $300 million up front, which would cover costs for the season

noleee

May 28th, 2011
4:32 pm

Crisp is hitting 702 with an OBP of less that 300. why in the world would they give up anything in trade for that?
Pence would be kinda hard to find somewhere to play him unless of an injury.
I would certainly prefer Pence if it came down to those two

chuck simon's barber shop

May 28th, 2011
4:32 pm

Perhaps “collage” is a good idea, McFann

Ward

May 28th, 2011
4:32 pm

The reason why Braves could be interested in Pence, they feel he could play Center field, and are unhappy with Nates performance as well.Looks like after the season Nate is done.

Bat Masterson

May 28th, 2011
4:34 pm

Over/under 3 runs tonight for the Braves?

I say over, with 12 runs scored.

noleee

May 28th, 2011
4:34 pm

that was a great analogy monty. so true :D

The Grinch

May 28th, 2011
4:35 pm

My bad, J-Man; just went back and looked again. I misread you the first time.

NO Coco Crisp.

Kemp would cost way too much in prospects, though he’d be a perfect fit athletically. Not gonna get him in any deal that includes Nate.

VaBravesFan

May 28th, 2011
4:36 pm

Depending on how Heyward does with the injury and rehab games and Schafer’s play will determine if we go get someone.

Coco Crisp in my opinion wouldnt be a upgrade at all. I much rather give Schafer alot of time to prove himself than actually give up something for a 702. OPS OFer as NOLIE said.

shmoe

May 28th, 2011
4:36 pm

Wow, what a uplifting blog. The braves will eventually break out and absolutely demolish some poor pitcher. hopefully it starts tonight.

Ward

May 28th, 2011
4:37 pm

I did some research last night, and Braves could also be interested in Grady Siezmore from the Indians too. Like I said. “Just Intereseted……”

TennesseePaul

May 28th, 2011
4:38 pm

Thanks for the work DOB.

GO BRAVES!!

noleee

May 28th, 2011
4:38 pm

well of course Nate is done here after this season ward, that was pretty obvious even if he had a great year.
Not so sure about Pence in CF since he is not even a particularly good corner OFer, but his bat might be worth the risk

chuck simon's barber shop

May 28th, 2011
4:38 pm

Pence could have any number of spots in this lineup, seriously

cabravesfan

May 28th, 2011
4:39 pm

Ward-

Sizemore is more injury prone than Jason is…and would also cost a boatload of prospects. If the Indians were willing to trade him, which I doubt they would…

Ward

May 28th, 2011
4:40 pm

Like I said “Just an Interest”…….

cabravesfan

May 28th, 2011
4:41 pm

Ward-

I know :) There are probably 30 teams that would love to pry him from Cleveland

noleee

May 28th, 2011
4:42 pm

after waiting all that time for Sizemore to heal and come back I seriously doubt the Indians are gonna trade him away now unless they get a real haul. ward

cabravesfan

May 28th, 2011
4:42 pm

Ward-

I wasn’t sure…after I posted i looked it up to see if I was right ;)

Ward

May 28th, 2011
4:43 pm

I was doing research for a couple of hours last night, and those guy’s were the top interest,as of yesterday.Who knows what will happen?

VaBravesFan

May 28th, 2011
4:43 pm

Grady Sizemore has a 7+ million option for next season, BUT if he’s traded that becomes gaurenteed year. The Indians will most likely wait til after the season to possibly deal him. With the way there playing he wont be traded during the season, and teams prolly wanna see him be healthy the rest of the season instead of taking a risk and paying him that money to be on the DL for all of 2012 or something.

The Braves should really just go with what we have. Give Schafer plenty of Playing time. Keep our prospects. Our pitching has carried us this far, You have to think Heyward and Uggla will contribute eventually. We need to see if Jordan is our guy for 2012.

Frankie Wren

May 28th, 2011
4:44 pm

Sizemore another lefty, not sure what we need right now. Speaking of which, did we use Mathers already earlier in the game PH last night? Didn’t like the matchup with Hinske against the lefty late and not sure why Fredo didn’t make that switch.

Schafer,Nate, Heyward, McCann, Freeman. I liked to pick up a RH bat starter if they make a blockbuster trade. Pence is a very solid major leaguer. I don’t think he plays CF though or if he can. Funny some judge him defensively because of his throwing motion. It does look goofy. I

Ward

May 28th, 2011
4:45 pm

Cab: Thanks for spelling his name correctly. It takes me a while to get the players name spelled correctly.

noleee

May 28th, 2011
4:47 pm

not sure his throwing motion has anything to do with it at all

noleee

May 28th, 2011
4:49 pm

I doubt it too Va, he’s a Texas boy too which is kinda important with the recent changes there IMO

Trey

May 28th, 2011
4:49 pm

Happy 23rd birthday to Craig Kimbrel.

VaBravesFan

May 28th, 2011
4:49 pm

Hunter Pence is a nice player. He’s the best player on a terrible team. He’ll cost around 10 million for 2012 after arbritration. He could play CF but would be below average long term there. He could put up better numbers being surrounded by better players you would think. But this guy will hit 280. with 25 dingers and swipe 15 bags or so for ya. 800+ OPS guy as well. But he isnt worth what there asking for in return. I’m willing to bet he doesnt get traded.

Ward

May 28th, 2011
4:50 pm

We will have to just wait, and see what Wren does.DeJesus was mentioned as a possilbe interest from A’s too.

Trey

May 28th, 2011
4:51 pm

SB, I have to admit those Formula One cars are some pretty cool looking cars.

Frankie Wren

May 28th, 2011
4:51 pm

Look at the NL this year. Cardinals, Giants, Phillies, Marlins, maybe Cincy and Milwaukee. Nothing dominant here. I hate to speculate on what could have been this year with how talented our staff has been from top to bottom. When Uggla and Heyward start hitting(they will) is this still going to be enough to win a pennant. Love Haas man but I am worried about him. 3 walks and getting on base is nice but can he carry this team for a stretch? I have doubts. Pence if you can get improves this team offensively obviously. Not sure what that defense looks like though. I hope FW goes for it this year and pulls a major deal. Giants with all of their goofy pickups last year in the second half made it happen.

Frankie Wren

May 28th, 2011
4:52 pm

.280 25 HRs, +.800 looks pretty nice. How many teams have that now?

David O'Brien

May 28th, 2011
4:54 pm

Braves lineup: 1. Schafer CF, 2. Prado LF, 3. Jones, 3B, 4. McCann C, 5. Hinske RF, 6. Uggla 2B, 7. Freeman 1B, 8. Gonzalez SS, 9. Lowe

tiger297

May 28th, 2011
4:54 pm

gonna be a great night to sit in the stands and watch a baseball game tonight…

noleee

May 28th, 2011
4:55 pm

POC Blog

I doubt it too Va, he’s a Texas boy also which is kinda important with the recent changes there IMO

tiger297

May 28th, 2011
4:56 pm

stupid blog time warp…not sure if nolie means sizemore won’t happen or pence won’t happen. How can I argue with the man if I’m not sure which one he is wrong about :D

Ward

May 28th, 2011
4:56 pm

Well, I’ll talk later! Going to see Pirates Of Caribbean 4 in just a few…….”Go!!!!! Braves!!!!!!”

VaBravesFan

May 28th, 2011
4:57 pm

Frankie Wren

True, but are you willing to give up Mike Minor plus 2 to 3 good prospects? The Astros new ownership isnt gonna just give there best player away. They want a very good return to even consider it.

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