Braves trade Lopez for minor-league lefty

The Braves traded journeyman pitcher Rodrigo Lopez to the Chicago Cubs for minor league left-hander Ryan Buchter.

Lopez, 35, was 6-1 with a 2.59 ERA in nine starts for Triple-A Gwinnett. His contract would’ve permitted him to sign as a free agent with any team offering a 25-man roster spot if he weren’t on the Braves’ major league roster by June 15.

Buchter, 24, had a 3.38 ERA and .197 opponents’ average in 16 relief appearances in Class A and Double A, with 30 strikeouts in 21-1-3 innings.  He allowed 13 hits, eight earned runs and 11 walks in 11 innings for Double-A Tennessee.

A 33rd-round draft pick of the Washington Nationals in 2005, Buchter is 20-7 with a 3.82 ERA in 149 minor league games (two starts), none above Double A. He has 251 strikeouts with 141 walks in 212 innings.

Buchter has a 92-94 mph fastball, but needs work on his secondary pitch.

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Chris from the Rock

May 26th, 2011
7:23 pm

Not thatv I was expecting the moon for Lopez, but I figured Wren could land a slightly better prospect with so many teams desperate for hurlers.

PTCdude

May 26th, 2011
7:23 pm

We traded this guy for a decent 4th or 5th starter?

JD

May 26th, 2011
7:25 pm

The way Lopez was throwing at AA, I wouldve thought he’d get more of a shot during the coming week or two, even if it was just to showcase him at AAA.

chris

May 26th, 2011
7:31 pm

lopez, who was pitching extremely well in AAA, you would think would get a better return out of him, especially how starting pitching is these days…

Austin

May 26th, 2011
7:32 pm

JD Lopez was in AAA, it’s Kawakami who is in AA, also Lopez has a clause in which he could opt out of his contract June 15 if he wasn’t with the major league club, the fact that Wren got anything for him is pretty good, especially since he was just another minor league signing people didn’t care much of for the time.

extremus

May 26th, 2011
7:32 pm

While the trade appears to be fairly even from a statistics perspective, the Braves probably should have gone after a hitter, in my opinion.

coors

May 26th, 2011
7:36 pm

that’s all we could get for a 5th starter that threw 200+ innings last year???????????????

Ryan

May 26th, 2011
7:38 pm

In 2 weeks we would have gotten nothing. Good trade. We added to our already embarrasingly good minor league pitching.

Frank got it Wrong

May 26th, 2011
7:39 pm

Frank pulled another Uggla.

Austin

May 26th, 2011
7:43 pm

Exactly Steve, look up through history what other teams got for a 35 year old Journey man pitcher in the MiLB who had a clause in his contract and wasnt in the teams plans and we should just be happy we got more than some used jocks and broken bats.

Supa Steve

May 26th, 2011
7:44 pm

Best of luck to RoLo…hope he can get his major league career back on track in Chicago. It was obvious he wasn’t in our plans due to pitching depth and contractual/waiver stipulations so at least we got something at all for him.

jp

May 26th, 2011
7:49 pm

they need a bench player

worm

May 26th, 2011
7:54 pm

As an ex-pitcher-Eric Hinske would be dusting himself off several times for that homerun admiring yesterday..Geesh man, You ain’t the second coming of the Babe…Perhaps someone will take McCann out as a retaliation..Bobby Cox wouldn’t allow this..

Austin

May 26th, 2011
7:56 pm

They weren’t going to get a quality MLB bench player for Lopez, besides for now I think Hinske/Mather/Conrad/Ross works.. Hernandez and Ramirez are really interchangeable

Choppinmama

May 26th, 2011
8:14 pm

worm – well, it was a thing of beauty, worth admiration.

Ronald Millsaps

May 26th, 2011
8:18 pm

Dan Uggla’s woes are amazing, especially since he was one of the top three or four NL players last year. Leave it to Atlanta not to make an adjustment with him.

When he was in Florida, he was in a much-better offense than he has here. Instead of moving him up in the order, he has remained in the middle of it essentially all season, so instead of giving him the protection he’s familiar with, he has been in a bad spot. We need to bat him third in the order and give him some more protection.

The lack of adjustments is downright stifling, and I don’t think he’s complacent from the big contract; he doesn’t strike me as being like that. I think also he opened the season with a large degree of arrogance that, like with anyone else, is a recipe for disaster.

Ronald Millsaps

May 26th, 2011
8:28 pm

That double play in the ninth yesterday was extremely impressive. Conrad’s homer was great, but I hope it didn’t get “play of the game” status, as he wouldn’t have gotten the chance to hit it if not for said double play……………….reminiscent of the “Aaron Boone game” from 2003. The Yankees trail the Red Sox, 5-0, in Game 7. Boone hits the extra-inning homer to win the game————–but the game unquestionably should be deemed, if anything, the “Jason Giambi game” since he got the ball rolling with the two solo homers. Boone’s homer, honestly, was an afterthought in comparison.

I despise ignorance.

Ronald Millsaps

May 26th, 2011
8:30 pm

If Uggla doesn’t start hitting, I say we put Prado back at second and platoon Uggla and Hinske in left. I’m blamed serious. The status quo isn’t working, and neither are the adjustment-makers.

Ronald Millsaps

May 26th, 2011
8:32 pm

………..not to mention the fact that Hinske IS hitting.

It bears repeating: Running Jeff Francoeur out of town (let’s be blunt; that’s just what they did) was a HUGE mistake, one of the worst front-office moves this team has made, which is saying something, similar to how they ran David Justice out of town.

Ronald Millsaps

May 26th, 2011
8:34 pm

“worm”— You can admire a homer without taunting the pitcher, and there’s nothing wrong with admiring one. There’s a lot wrong with saying “geesh”, which is a slur against Jesus, though.

Ronald Millsaps

May 26th, 2011
8:35 pm

That ball was CRUSHED, by the way.

Ronald Millsaps

May 26th, 2011
8:48 pm

If you want to speak of arrogance, refer to these fans who act like players are supposed to drop everything and come sign for them and/or their punk kids, and I say “punk kids” because the vast majority are.

Derek Lowe’s DUI (as with all others) is arrogant, too, but we hear more complaints of home-run admiration than we do of DUIs. Lowe drove when he was unfit to drive, and someone could’ve been killed. THAT, my friend, is arrogant.

Dawg Fan in Grayson

May 26th, 2011
8:50 pm

So with his team struggling to hit and score all year Wren trades for a 24 year old AA pitcher???? Does Wren even watch the Braves play or does spend all his time watchin his sons play at GT? Didn’t expect to get a prime time player for Lopez, but I thought he should have reached for a bench player who could hit. Wren is hopeless.

Bob the Blogger

May 26th, 2011
8:56 pm

I agree with other posters that the Braves got too little for Lopez. He threw 200 innings last year and was very effective in AAA this year, yet all we got was a pitcher with 6 years in the minor leagues who still can’t throw strikes (6 walks per nine innings for his career). I would have preferred the Braves to seek out a minor league speedster.

Austin

May 26th, 2011
8:56 pm

Dawg Fan if you think that Lopez could have legitimately got us a bench player who could actually make a difference then you are hopeless. If Lopez got called up he would make a pro rated Million bucks, and would have to pass through waivers to go back down. That being said he had to be on the roster by 6/15 he could opt out of the contract and signed with someone else. Other teams know this and they could have just waited him out. The Braves had no use for Lopez and everyone knew that, and like i said before “look up through history what other teams got for a 35 year old Journey man pitcher in the MiLB who had a clause in his contract and wasnt in the teams plans and we should just be happy we got more than some used jocks and broken bats.”

He was a MiLB signing that nobody even cared about, even hated at the time because they thought it was a waste. People just can’t be happy.

Austin

May 26th, 2011
9:01 pm

Bob we got a lot of those by the way, just none that are ready.

Schafer, Constanza, Ramirez, Ware, Jones, Harrilchak, Lipka, Simmons just to name a few

Austin

May 26th, 2011
9:04 pm

That being said I agree i would have much rather them go after a position player, I just don’t think whoever we got they really don’t have much of a chance of making an impact, but we should just be happy we got a fresh body instead of nothing

BRAVESFAN

May 26th, 2011
9:14 pm

I think we all wish we could unload Wren just as easy!

Dawg Fan in Grayson

May 26th, 2011
9:14 pm

Austin, my point is why take a chance on a pitcher and not a position player especially when this franchise struggles to hit?

Mark (another one)

May 26th, 2011
9:17 pm

Lopez was all but gone. The Braves got a solid arm with potential. That sounds like a good trade. I would prefer a major league bat but that wasn’t likely.

Austin

May 26th, 2011
9:18 pm

Dawg I dont know, maybe because we have a lack of LHP, only noticeable ones I can think of are Oberholtzer and Perez. I would have rather them go after a position player as well, but what I am saying is we should be happy we were lucky enough to get anything. Teams could have waited a couple weeks and we would have gotten nothing.

Austin

May 26th, 2011
9:19 pm

Also, over 3 MiLB seasons this kid has a k/9 of around 11. Yes he has high walk rates, but so did Kimbrel.

ray

May 26th, 2011
9:27 pm

Buchter was great at A ball. as soon as he was promoted by Cubs to AA, he had problems. for a 24 yr old, he shouldn’t be back in A ball (where braves assigned him)
I guess Wren figured better than giving him away like Resop under same circumstances. so he got nothing anyway.
Wren had until 6/15 so I guess he felt this deal was “too good to pass up “. aside from Jurgens, Wren hasn’t traded for 1 good young prospect.but the Braves are great at giving away good ones.

Sam The Swami

May 26th, 2011
9:42 pm

You guys are amazing! Don’t you think Wren took the BEST DEAL AVAILABLE? No one is giving away a top prospect for a 35 year old pitcher. Get real.

You can never have too many good arms and this Buchter sounds like a potential MLB middle reliever in the making.

Plate Appearance

May 26th, 2011
9:49 pm

Looks like another maximum value trade for Frank!

shmoe

May 26th, 2011
10:04 pm

ronald millsaps

don’t say francouer and dave justice in the same sentence ever!!!

Claudell

May 26th, 2011
10:13 pm

Why does Frank keep agreeing to these contracts that say “put me on the team by a certain date or I can walk?” We should let our players either play themselves onto our team, or play themselves into an attractive trade offer from another team.

Bob the Blogger

May 26th, 2011
10:18 pm

I guess all we can hope for is that the Braves figure out some way to teach Buchter a second pitch and better control.

Claudell

May 26th, 2011
10:21 pm

Barry is guilty. Pete…guilty. Dykstra…guilty. Jose…guilty Mark….guilty. Sammy…guilty.

Derrick Lowe…got himself a good lawyer, a cop who couldn’t tell the diff between two really expensive cars, a prosecutor who just didn’t want the hassle, and a hometown media that is relatively player friendly. But it’ll be ok if he goes 5-0 in Sept.

Braves Fan

May 26th, 2011
10:26 pm

Wren is an IDIOT!

We could of easily gotten Coco Crisp or Michael Bourn for Rodrigo Lopez and Jordan Schafer. Another brilliant move from Wren.

reckingball

May 26th, 2011
10:38 pm

Ronald M. @8:48……Derek Lowe was DUI, how do you know?

Lobosolo

May 26th, 2011
10:39 pm

You armchair cryboys are a HOOT!!!! Y’all talk like you have an actual clue about how to run a franchise!!! I’ll bet 99% of you had never HEARD of either of these guys! Yuk, yuk, yuk, yuk, yuk….

mathman

May 26th, 2011
10:44 pm

Let’s not be so quick to trade Schafer. He is far better than McLouse, both offensively and defensively. Prado is now in the #2 hole where he belongs and we now have a leadoff man who can run, bunt, and take some walks. He was a big part of any offense we had in the two wins over Pittsburgh.

Quicherbichin

May 26th, 2011
10:53 pm

Braves Fan- Really? did you hear the BoSox offer that? and especially with Nate AND Jason (Heyward, Not Schafer) both injured right now, THIS is the deal you’d make? hmmm… Thank God you were not in the administration of any High School that I attended… as Bugs Bunny would say…. what a maroon!!!

rainman34

May 26th, 2011
11:08 pm

im very happy with the trade another good young arm. Also very important he is left handed. For a 35 year old that had a 5 era last year. The uggla deal was a great one. Wren cant help he is off to a terrible start.

Monger

May 26th, 2011
11:09 pm

Ray you truly are amazingly dumb, Wren has made several GREAT, and by great I mean magician, smooth talking amazingly GREAT for the Braves in the past several years…. And this is just off the top of my head….

We got Jair Jurrjens and Gorkys Hernandez for an aging Edgar Renteria- Look at Reneteria’s declining games and stats the last few years and tell me that wasnt the STEAL of a lifetime.

We got Aroyds Vizcaino and Mike Dunn, along with Melky for Javier Vazquez, Once again look at Vazquez’s decline and its a STEAL by Wren. Vizcaino was the Yankees #1 prospect and a dominating young pitcher who we can pair with Delgado, Teheran, Hanson, JJ, Medlen, Beachy and Minor for years to come in a GREAT rotation for the next decade…Mike Dunn was and is still an awesome pitcher as well.

We got Steven Marek and Casey Kotchman from Anaheim, cant remember who we gave them, I think just prospects, but Marek is already on his way to teaming up with Venters, Gearin, and Kimbrel to form our bullpen of lights out relievers.

These are 3 just off the top of my head, and Im sure if I researched I could find several other gem moves by GM Frank Wren in bringing in good young talent. Also, he makes good trades for veterans in my opinion, I think the Charlie Morton and Gorkys Hernandez for Nate McLouth was a good trade, Nate, while he had a down year last year, has rebounded some this year, and nobody can deny the spark he gave us after the allstar break the year we got him, he had like 10 Hrs and 10-15 doubles the 2nd half of that year. If we see that Nate in the 2nd half this year we will be pretty tough to beat, and Gorkys has faded away and Morton, while so far decent this year, had a 2-12 record with a 7+ ERA so those are just a few examples

Jay Dubu

May 26th, 2011
11:12 pm

DOB,

Where in the Braves system will he be assigned, AA or AAA?

AdirondackDave

May 26th, 2011
11:13 pm

Looks like an inconsequential return for Lopez but I didn’t expect much more. I hoped for more.. but didn’t expect it.

Quicherbichin

May 26th, 2011
11:14 pm

some of you peple are unreal.. You act like we should have gotten Josh Beckett and Jon Lester for Rodrigo Lopez. or… Failig that…. We might have been able to get A-Rod And Mark Teixeira from the Yankees… You peopke are just unreal!!!

Falcorave

May 26th, 2011
11:31 pm

in all honesty, the braves (fredi) needs to make a simple move in the batting order to help out uggla. with shaefer (an actual leadoff hitter) hitting first, you bat uggla second to give him more fastballs to get his confidence up. Remember marcus giles? was an allstar because he got fastballs because of rafael furcal, same deal here.
then when heyward and mclouth come back, he’ll be in a nice little groove, and might have the confidence to hit a few breaking pitches

Blog comments are retarded

May 26th, 2011
11:44 pm

Fact check time: Ronald, Derek Lowe’s DUI was dismissed due to a lack of evidence. Not saying he did nothing wrong, just that there was no DUI conviction or reckless driving. Don’t let facts get in the way of a good rant though…carry on.

Kevin

May 27th, 2011
12:00 am

Monger,

Marek is a long ways from joining our stud relievers. He just had tommy john surgery and is out until at least next June. I don’t see him in the majors until September 2012 at the earliest and most likely April 2013.

David O'Brien

May 27th, 2011
12:01 am

Where in the Braves system will he be assigned, AA or AAA? — Jay Dubu

Jay Dubu: Neither. He’s going to Luis Salazar’s high-A Lynchburg club to start out.

Coach B

May 27th, 2011
12:05 am

This might be a pretty good trade. Not a highly developed, dominate prospects but we also are not giving up a lot. Despite that, he could have strong bullpen potential. A lefty who throws in the mid-90’s is kinda rare. He is striking out 1.4 batters per inning. He appears to just need some refining of his control before he would be a good left handed relief pitcher. If he is striking out that many people, with a opp batting average under .200, he most likely struggles to locate one or more of his pitches while having good movement. Control is more likely to develop with age than significant movement. Given the low era, he might be figuring out his control.

Brandon

May 27th, 2011
12:18 am

I looked at buchter’s minor league stats and can’t help but notice the resemblance in his stats and kimbrels. this actually may turn out to be an incredible trade down the line

wjones

May 27th, 2011
12:19 am

“Braves Fan

May 26th, 2011
10:26 pm
Wren is an IDIOT!

We could of easily gotten Coco Crisp or Michael Bourn for Rodrigo Lopez and Jordan Schafer. Another brilliant move from Wren.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Your arrogance is only exceeeded by your stupidity.

wjones

May 27th, 2011
12:25 am

Had the blog been around in 1987, I’m sure there would be massive ranting that we traded Doyle Alexander for a AA pitcher with an ERA over 5. Especially once he went undefeated in Detroit. Comments along the lines of “What in the ……..is Bobby Cox doing? He has no business being a GM!”

shmoe

May 27th, 2011
12:29 am

Should the Braves target Jose Reyes somehow?

—–i’m salivating thinking of Reyes batting leadoff, stealing bases in front of Martin

David Wright?

Hunter Pence?

Lamar

May 27th, 2011
12:32 am

that last comment was hysterical

shmoe

May 27th, 2011
12:35 am

from MLB Trade rumors:

An American League scout says if the Mets hear an offer they like for Jose Reyes, they’ll take it: “They can’t afford not to and let him leave as a free agent and not get value for him.”

what would it take? obviously gonzo would need to go.

shmoe

May 27th, 2011
12:36 am

MLB trade rumors:

The Braves are “actively stepping up” their search for hitting. They’ve been looking for a right-handed hitting outfielder and would also like a utility infielder who can handle shortstop. They signed longtime shortstop Julio Lugo yesterday.

Right handed outfielder like Pence?

oldmaninatlanta

May 27th, 2011
12:58 am

Why is is that every time they do make a trade that its always for pitching?As sorry as our position players are in the minors,I dont understand why they dont do something to get a bat or 2.Guys,check out the lack of power..lack of batting average on all the minor leaguers.

acbwcmm

May 27th, 2011
1:09 am

Innocent people do not refuse a breathalyzer. It’s really that simple.

[...] Atlanta Braves [...]

Rumblekat

May 27th, 2011
1:37 am

All you people, who are fussing about trading for pitching, do you have any idea where the Braves would be right now if it weren’t for all the pitching they DO HAVE? And, some of you think that Frank Wren doesn’t watch the ballgames!

reckingball

May 27th, 2011
1:56 am

acbwhatever@ 1:09……..”Innocent people do not refuse a breathalyzer”. And you know this as a fact, how?
Innocent people have been taken into police custody, because of the breathalyzers giving false readings, I know this as a fact.

TheAntiMe

May 27th, 2011
2:05 am

The Braves got about what I would have expected, at best, for Rodrigo Lopez. You have to take into consideration that the Braves weren’t dealing from a position of strength. Had they not made a move in less than three weeks then they stood a chance of getting nothing at all for him and all of the other GMs are aware of this.

It would not make sense to add him to the 25-man roster, especially with how set the Braves are with pitching, both on the 25-man roster as well as on the farm. This sounds like as good a deal as could reasonably be expected.

Ryan

May 27th, 2011
2:09 am

Enter your comments here

Ed

May 27th, 2011
2:25 am

This much chatter on a trade of a 35 year old minor leaguer? Must be the same morons who listen to John Kincade on the radio. Please people, get a life.

acbwcmm

May 27th, 2011
3:29 am

Enter your comments here

TheAntiMe

May 27th, 2011
3:41 am

It just may be possible that Ryan Butcher could turn out to be another Stephen Marek type pitcher. Marek was basically a throw in to the Mark Teixeira trade with the Angels and it now appears that Marek should, in the not-so-distant future, see time as a quality MLB middle reliever.

It would not be too much of a stretch, I believe, that Butcher could be the same type of pitcher as Marek. Not at all a bad acquisition for Rodrigo Lopez, age 35, who started 33 games for the Arizona Diamondbacks last season and had a 7-16 record with a 5.00 ERA.

acbwcmm

May 27th, 2011
3:58 am

reckingball @ 1:56am: “And you know this as a fact, how? Innocent people have been taken into police custody, because of the breathalyzers giving false readings, I know this as a fact.”

Firstly, my statement was: “Innocent people do not refuse a breathalyzer. It’s really that simple.” I did not say “fact is” or anything else like that. So, to make you happy, I will revise my statement:

Innocent people do not refuse a breathalyzer, in my opinion. It’s really that simple.

If I were pulled over and an officer wanted to give me a breathalyzer test, I would not refuse. That is a fact. Why? Because I never drink and drive. That is a fact. Why? Because it is against the law and is responsible for the deaths of 2000+ Georgians in the past 5 years. Fact.

Also, if a person is taken into police custody due to a faulty reading (which is extremely rare in the 1st place), they have the right to request a blood test. They automatically take two blood samples, so that it can be tested again if necessary.

really

May 27th, 2011
4:37 am

The braves get anything for rodrigo lopez and people complain. The braves have the best starter depth un the majors by all means trade a guy who will never pitch for a lwfty with good numbers. You are crazy if you think he was worth more than that

acbwcmm

May 27th, 2011
4:58 am

I had honestly forgotten that Lopez even existed! It’s great we got something for him.

richbrave

May 27th, 2011
5:59 am

RODRIGO was very effective pitching inside to left-handed hitters and away to right-handers. But observing his work on the right side of the plate early on this season, evidently the BRAVES didn’t think he could develop effective pitches in that location before he ran out of time as a ML’er. Good job WREN.

JMF

May 27th, 2011
7:11 am

Let’s give credit where credit is due. Wren brought Lopez on for insurance. If rookies Beachy or Minor were not ready the Braves had a veteran backup. As it turned out the Braves did not need him. He served his purpose, INSURANCE. So the Braves added a potential left handed middle arm. Good move.

longtimefan

May 27th, 2011
7:22 am

Good response Monger. I believe Wren has done an excellent an excellent job as GM. Some people simply like to complain:they tend to find the negative in every situation. Call me a homer, but I like to see the positive in the Braves team and the future. There is not a baseball/sports team out there that can’t be picked apart if you try to focus on every negative.

STRETCH

May 27th, 2011
7:32 am

ARE THE MARLINS EVER GOING TO LOSE AGAIN???

sam is ugla

May 27th, 2011
7:41 am

DOB any word on that sam miller cat in single a ball?

alex

May 27th, 2011
7:44 am

Lowe got off,;how you say we’ll never know but money talks and garbage walks…Perfect opportunity to package him with another player and ship him and his sports car and contract and a case of PBR and get a very good every day player.
This my friends is an example of the USA having more lawyers than the rest of the world COMBINED
I forgot, give him a case of his favorite chewing tobacco, and hustle his fat a## out of town

TheAntiMe

May 27th, 2011
8:07 am

Oops! Sorry, Mr. Ryan Buchter. I never meant to Butcher your last name. My apologies.

bill

May 27th, 2011
8:08 am

I thought you were charged and had to forfeit your license if you refused a breath test. Is Lowe still on the hook for racing?

IHEARTCARROLL

May 27th, 2011
8:45 am

Didn’t we get Lopez just in case neither Beachy no Minor worked out this spring? And Lopez agreed to 6/15 because he didn’t want to sit forever in the minors. I don’t understand why everyone isn’t happy. Beachy looked good. Minor looks good. Lopez has a shot at extending his career. If FW takes this much flack over a little move like this, I would not have his job for a trillion dollars and an autographed picture of Carroll Rogers.

historyman

May 27th, 2011
8:46 am

Good move to get something — anything — for a throwaway pitcher signed in case of emergency.

IHEARTCARROLL

May 27th, 2011
8:47 am

Well, ok. I would take FWs job for a picture of Carroll Rogers. But not for just a trillion bucks.

alex

May 27th, 2011
8:48 am

monger and longtimefan, you guys are hilarious:FW a good GM, sarcasm dripps off my screen,Goodness, even for the uninformed after the uggla,glaus,lee, Mclouth debacle a fool could see your sarcasm. I’ll be there tonight I hope you guys hold up a banner that Says “we love FW’, that will get the crowd going. Thanks, we can all use some humor on a gloomy morning.

All together now: FIRE FW

JT Grace

May 27th, 2011
9:04 am

Enter your comments here

JT Grace

May 27th, 2011
9:10 am

Monger, the Braves traded some guy named Mark Teixeira for Marek and Kotchman. When the Angels lost Teixeira to free agency they used their 1st round pick to draft Mike Trout, the current #1 prospect in the minor leagues. Overall, Wren has done a fantastic job, but the Teixeira/Angels trade was not one of his better moments.

alex

May 27th, 2011
9:16 am

Come on guys, you must be related to FW, seriously, we’ve got mather in right , a 3rd baseman pushing 40,uggla,a rookie at first,man WE are stretched to the limit. We win 2 games against the PIRATES with MASSIVE run production…

All together now
FIRE FW

i THINK IT’S SWEET THAT fRANK’S FAMILY IS SO SUPPORTIVE (AND DELUSIONAL)

littlemikeofmikeandmikeisastininjoke

May 27th, 2011
9:18 am

I think we should have held out for r Lopez for Josh Hamilton or maybe Albert Pujols! Come on people get a life, it’s a miracle we got anything, do the math June 15 he could have walked. Too many armchair commentators, managers, coaches and GM’s that don’t know nothing about nothing. I gottta quit reading this stuff.

phil

May 27th, 2011
9:19 am

Alex – so angry, so harsh…but not totally out in left field either!

Hey Ronald Millsaps….if you despise ignorance so much, then please, please cease and desist from posting on here to spare us from yours….

Fire FW…

JT Grace

May 27th, 2011
9:24 am

Alex, what exactly should FW have done differently? Unlike teams like the Phillies, Red Sox, and Yankees he has a limited budget.

Things that Wren has accomplished:
1. Traded Renteria for Jair Jurrjens
2. Pick up a kid named Eric O’Flaherty off of waivers from the Mariners
3. Traded Javy Vazquez for one of the top pitching prospects in baseball and a good LHP
4. Traded a utility player and a relief pitcher for a 2B averaging 30 Home Runs a year
5. Traded Scott Diamond for Randy Bullock (a big upgrade in minor league relievers)
6. Signed Rodrigo Lopez and was able to get a useful minor leaguer in trade for him

I didn’t like the Teixeira/Angels trade or the Escobar/Gonzalez trade but otherwise he has been a solid GM of a team with an 85M budget.

The “pushing 40″ 3B happens to be a 1st ballot HOF who is one of the more productive 3B in the NL this year. Who should replace him?

The Braves have Mather in RF because one of the top young players in baseball is injured. Who do you think should be playing there?

phil

May 27th, 2011
9:25 am

littlemikeofmikeofwhatever…

Relax and have fun with this drivel….we’re all idiots here.

As for the trade, it’s a meaningless move designed to replace one old, basically useless piece on the way out with a much younger, basically useless piece. At least the younger piece might blossom into something, and if he doesn’t, who cares…no upside to the old guy.

Brava

May 27th, 2011
9:25 am

I don’t get why Wren would trade for another pitcher when the Braves have so much pitching depth. Seems to me he would have done better to trade for a good utility player for the bench.

phil

May 27th, 2011
9:30 am

JT Grace – Excellent post….great point about JJ…I had forgotten that trade.

The Dan Struggla trade was a good one. It’s not FW’s fault that Struggla can’t figure out anymore how to hit a baseball, unless it’s the genius of one of his coaches that’s fouled the guy up so badly….then I suppose we could get royally pissed…

I personally like the Escobar/Gonzo trade if for no other reason because it got an obvious malcontent off of the team…Escobar was lazy and his poor attitude showed clearly on his smug little face….good riddance, even if Gonzo can’t lay off of a high fastball to save his life, causing me to want to set fire to my clothing…

phil

May 27th, 2011
9:32 am

Brava – The guy he traded was about to be contractually gone from the team anyway. Wren got what he could for the guy. He couldn’t acquire a good utility player in exchange for this cat because he had no real value….in other words, he stinks.

E-6

May 27th, 2011
9:38 am

Phil @ 9:32 well said. When you have three or four pitchers at the same level who are as good or better than the guy who we were pretty much forced to trade, any return is okay. Add to that most of the other pitchers are ten years Lopez’ junior.

BlogCommentersaretreasures

May 27th, 2011
9:46 am

how with a straight face can you say frank wren is a terrible GM? Rodrigo was a 35 year old pitcher, with a career 4.85 ERA, coming off of a 5.00 ERA and 7-16 season…and you were expecting what? Josh Johnson in return? Also, if you are going to criticize any players on the team, take the time and look up how to spell their name….as if the constant negativity didn’t do it, your lack of knowledge makes you look like a dumb “fan”. Has Joe Mather not produced for you this year(.901 ops)? Has George Sherrill not been a great arm out of the pen? Dan Uggla will come around.

Players added under Frank Wren:
Eric O’Flaherty(waivers)
Alex Gonzalez(with Tyler Pastronicky, Tim Collins)-for Yunel and Jo-Jo Reyes(28 straight winless)
Eric Hinske(Free Agent)
Jair JURRJENS – Frank stole him from Detroit with Gorkys for Edgar
Craig Kimbrel – Added Via Draft
Brandon Beachy- Undrafted Free Agent.
Mike Minor – Via Draft

yeah he has done a piss poor job.

Ralph

May 27th, 2011
9:58 am

Beachey comes back, Minor and Teheran both ready to step in and Medilin should be ready before September makes Lowe and or Hudson ready for trade before the deadline. Even if they only get a good utility infielder the money saved from their contract would enable Wren to get an outstanding RENTAL outfielder for the rest of the season.

reckingball

May 27th, 2011
9:58 am

phill, what is wrong with you this morning? You are making too much sense.

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