2:57 pm May 12, 2011, by David O'Brien
May 12th, 20116:28 pm
heehee. Mitchell the guy who at times last season posted basically the same thing 50 times or more during a game, is irritated by a few repeats of the same sentence? Gee poor guy
Linebrink is another of Wren’s useless acquisitions. how much longer can you let him pitch like this. he is rarely effective. even Proctor may be a better option-and that is sad.
Sherrill, Linebrink, Lee, Farnsworth, Ankiel – 5 useless additions since last year.
at least the last 3 are gone although we gave away players for nothing (Lopez and Collns may have been a mistake)
Great new on JH. Sit him for a week. Let him FULLY heal so he is good to go.
I say leave Kimbrel for now. If it gets any worse then consider moving him. Someone brought up a good point, which is the benefit of having Venters to use at any important time late in the game if necessary. If he is closing only, then he is kind of unavailable.
I wouldnt have minded a trip to the mound from Bmac during the 4 pitch walk to calm him down and refocus him.
And if this Braves team wants to contend then they have to get their heads right when they face the Nationals. They are a beatable team. 3 runs off of Nationals starters and 14 runs allowed to that line-up is inexcusable.
May 12th, 20116:30 pm
Thanks for the good news on Heyward, DOB.
May 12th, 20116:31 pm
Supes- heyward might be back by sunday. by recieving that cortisone shot, it will give heyward a good chance to be pain free for a couple of months without damaging the shoulder anymore than it is. and i wouldnt be suprised if heyward starts hitting well again if his shoulder was really affecting his swing like that. funny though, that heyward didnt want to tell the trainers.
May 12th, 20116:32 pm
Do any of you with your continued rants ever bother to check out how any of the players you bludgeon are doing? Sherrill has given up runs in one of his 13 appearances and none for the past nine – he has a 2.25 ERA.
If Kimball’s confidence is shattered over a bullpen shake up, then he just doesn’t have the right stuff to be the second coming of Mariano Rivera or who ever the greatest bully is. Aren’t relievers supposed to have short memories to be successful? Go Braves.
May 12th, 20116:33 pm
Good news, bad news on Heyward. Good news is he should be back in a few games. Bad news since he isn’t going on the DL we’ll be a player short for a few games, or unless they send a pitcher down. I had that same thing when I played in high school in my throwing arm, the good news is it isn’t in his throwing arm but he really should just take treatment and not use it for a week, but I doubt that will happen. Hate to see it not fully heal by taking BP and stuff and be a lingering type of deal.
Lew, Lew, Lew… (shakes head)
We’ve been over this many times- you are trying to inject logic and reasoning into Bitter and Bitch. It’s like trying to breathe in a void- no matter how much you try to do it, it ain’t happening.
May 12th, 20116:34 pm
yeah but what kinda name is Sheryl for a ballplayer?
Good news for Heyward. Those cortisone shots can do wonders.
I am constantly amazed of the ability of some bloggers to actually be able to turn on a computer, and access the internet. Remarkable!
Just saw Klesko on Braves Live. One of my all time favorites.
YES~!!!! Heyward Alright
May 12th, 20116:35 pm
Kimball? Did he ever catch that one armed guy?
C’mon Lew, don’t confuse them with the facts.
It gets worse with each game.
May 12th, 20116:37 pm
I’ve been impressed with Sherrill. Linebrink should be on a very very short leash. You’d have to think Proctor would get a shot if we give up on Linebrink.
Brave4life-1995 all over again?
If its not serious why isnt he hitting
May 12th, 20116:39 pm
No structural damage, but inflammation. It still needs to be rested.
“not serious” doesn’t mean “not hurting” or “not affecting his ability to swing a bat.”
cause he is Frenchy Jr. ?
That’s cold, nolie.
May 12th, 20116:40 pm
Inflammation is painful.
May 12th, 20116:41 pm
Here’s my take on the closer situation. Fredi says that he doesn’t wanna hurt Kimbrel’s confidence by changing up right now. Well, what about the damage you may be doing to Venters? The guy has been here since the start of last season and has far exceeded any and all expectations. He is a bull outta that pen and deserves to close. hell, if you don’t wanna have him close, at least do what you originally said and let them share closer duties. So far, it been almost all Kimbrel.
I know, I know. The light in the darkness is nothing but a gorilla with a flashlight, but sometimes one has no other windmills in sight and it’s a shame to let the lance rust.
So FG makes the move and Venters blows a few saves…then what? Leave things the way they are.
Interested to here Scoots take on Heyward. Injured or just hurting? Can he play through it or not? Should he try?
Any thoughts on trading D Lowe?
May 12th, 20116:42 pm
Right now (and Shaun I did say right now) I’d rather have Hinske in RF, anyway. Let Heyward sit through the weekend.
Brian Jordan and Fred Hickman apparently don’t know that the MRI revaeled nothing serious.
May 12th, 20116:43 pm
Is Jeff Reardon still in jail? Maybe we can get him to close.
So FG makes the move and Venters blows a few saves…then what
A few?? That bum blows one save and we need EOF in there. Closers cannot blow saves ever.
well I thought I’d voice it for those who might actually think that Bat
Then EOF blows a few and we call for Sherril or Linebrink!
Heard the report on Heyward’s shoulder and like it or not, I could care less. What I’m feeling is that it’s the shoulder this week and will be something else next week. For a young kid with a body put together like that, he sure does strike me as being a bit of a wussy. I just wanna see him put together one freaking season where he can’t blame lack of productivity on aches and pains.
May 12th, 20116:44 pm
Probably a ton of teams who might pay a king’s ransom to have Venters be their closer.
May 12th, 20116:45 pm
I’m super glad that Heyward is okay but it’s really starting to concern me about all of these injuries that he’s racking up in his very short start to his career
too much bulky muscle. It’s baseball not professional wrestling….
I’d trade D-Lowe for a good bullpen arm and a good prospect
63 year Braves fan
May 12th, 20116:46 pm
I think you could take the pressure off of Kimbrel by switching him to the 7th inning guy. O’Flarehty
for the 8th and Venters to close. His stuff is harder to hit than Kimbrel’s and he has more killer instinct
and doesn’t rattle easily. I agree Linebrink must go and maybe Sherill too. Bring up Rodrigo Lopez for
7th inning or middle relief
f. Play Hinske all the time . He’s a professional hitter. Heyward should learn
About the ONLY comment on the situation we haven’t heard today is an appreciation for the fact that we have three lights out relievers who could close if need be.
I think that is taking EO’F a bit too far on a regular basis Lew.
@OR Brave and @ Jerry:
I made the same point on DOB’s other blog entry re. Fredi’s handling of Kimbrel. If the guy has that brittle of an ego and his self-confidence is that fragile, then he sounds like another version of the Wohlers-Rocker-Kolb-Soriano “closer who’s a head-case”. Do we really need to go through that again?
May 12th, 20116:47 pm
Lew, well said. Exactly.
Patrick – Yeah, you and others here would. Thankfully the Braves have personnel to make these decisions that actually have sense.
Lowe for Soriano >_>
May 12th, 20116:48 pm
There’s no way you mess with Kimbrel now, This is the first rough patch of what we hope is a good career. He’s three outs from being back on track.
May 12th, 20116:49 pm
Yeah – Soriano never blew a save.
Lowe for Juan Pierre, the great leadoff hitter the Braves need so much???
Thankfully the Braves have personnel to make these decisions that actually have sense
Trading an aging and expensive starting pitcher for a good price would not be the worst thing that could happen to the Braves.
Hurt, monty. A little inflammation? Piffle. Shoot that sucker and swing on Saturday, maybe.
Where BAS? You still on here?
Tommy T – That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking.
Seriously? He’s played with a sore shoulder all season and because his hand and forearm started to go numb he’s a wuss? And considering he’s played one full season and 38 games of a second, saying you’d like him to play “one freaking season” without hurting (and when did he blame injury on lack of productivity?) is just dumb.
May 12th, 20116:50 pm
There’s no way you mess with Kimbrel now, This is the first rough patch of what we hope is a good career
You gotta learn to lose, don’t ya?
jeffrey d- Keep telling yourself that. Won’t make you right, but you’ll still think you are… Who do you replace Lowe with? Teheran who’s not ready?
you are right jeffrey, it wouldn’t.
It doesn’t even come close to acquiring Mitchell,Robert and Paul
May 12th, 20116:51 pm
Patrick- my thoughts exactly. We don’t need Lowe. He makes 15 million and he has been really good for us but he hasn’t been great. I’m sure yankees would take him in a heartbeat and we could get value in return. Remember we robbed the yanks of aroydis vizcaino in the Vazquez deal. Vizcaino will be a very solid arm for a long time as soon as next year. I’m almost positive that the yanks would take on Lowe and his huge salary
Getting close to gametime so outta here. Lets have a good one y’all. We need a win,don’t count on it.
Alright boys and girls. I got to get to the booth!
IT’S A LONG DRIVE, DEEP RIGHT FIELD… and caught. (70 feet shy of the track).
May 12th, 20116:52 pm
i just knew someone would mention trading Lowe in the middle of Kimbrel and Heyward convo’s.
And while I’m at it, why would Wren consider trading Lowe right now? The guy is pitching the best he has for the Braves. I can see Wren trading pitching, but it won’t be off the big league staff.
May 12th, 20116:53 pm
Time to leave – Full Moon fever is taking over close to game time.
“Son of a bit&!”
I just wanna see him put together one freaking season where he can’t blame lack of productivity on aches and pains. _ Jerry
He only has one full season to his credit and he did have a serious thumb injury last year. Time will tell, right.
May 12th, 20116:54 pm
Caught some of the White Sox game last night, White Sox announcers were the biggest homer’s I’ve ever heard for TV broadcasters. They tied the game in the 9th and you would have thought they won the WS.
In regards to this game tonight, I listened to 680 The Fan today and had a tough time listening to their bs their tough losses. Quite frankly, we all have seen and this scenario played and replayed over and over again through the years. I doubt very seriously that there’s another team in the majors with the Braves abilities that consistently plays inconsistently. And I know I’m not alone with the feeling that, what will the Braves do tonight to lose another game they should win? I’m quickly losing my faith in this team, if I haven’t lost it already. hanging by a thread here.
May 12th, 20116:55 pm
Can tell I’m not home…
Let’s score 5 or 6 runs early and then extend the lead to get the bats really going…
May 12th, 20116:56 pm
I’m glad. If you thought you were home I’d be very concerned
And for God’s sake, please get rid of Sherill and Linebrink. They have no business earning millions of dollars while they fail so splendidly.
May 12th, 20116:57 pm
Trading Lowe makes more sense than keeping him. He’s old and he is overpaid. He makes more than our 2-5 starters combined. We coukd get value for him and free up a large chunk of salary space to add a marquee player.
T for Texas
May 12th, 20116:58 pm
No coffee for Craig Kimbrel.
Coffee is for Closers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd-IHI6b-k0–Alec Baldwin is legendary.
May 12th, 20116:59 pm
Sorry, use this link.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
May 12th, 20117:00 pm
there’s absolutely no guarantee that the Braves would take the money they saved by trading Lowe and “add a marquee player.”
May 12th, 20117:02 pm
I swear people forget the braves have limited payroll flexibility, Ted Turner is long gone folks. Our whole team makes less than 100 million combined. We are forced to make cost cutting moves in order to contend. Saying Lowe shouldn’t be traded is assinine. Moving him would be wrens best move of the season
I was going to get tics for this weekend, but screw that, when they act like they are a contender, I will fork over the outlandish price for a ticket. Screw them and those piss poor relievers they hire
May 12th, 20117:03 pm
Chip & Joes opening…….
‘the Nats own us….’ et al
Obviously there’s no gaurantee bro but it at least opens the door to the possibility of bringing in a much younger star than Derek Lowe. As of today we couldn’t take on any significant contract even if we wanted to
May 12th, 20117:04 pm
jeffrey d- Keep telling yourself that. Won’t make you right, but you’ll still think you are
Could you quit being so condescending about it? I’m not saying the Braves are likely to trade Derek Lowe, and I know the rotation is better with him in it.
But if there’s a position of strength we’d have to trade from, it’d be starting pitcher. And Lowe – who’s going to turn 38 and makes the most money on the team – would be a good candidate without having to give up the future while getting some much needed payroll leeway.
Bay Area Steve
Post it anytime; I’ll find it…
just think how bad it’s gonna be here soon when they are loosing 6-0……
May 12th, 20117:05 pm
just curious, was McDowell allowed to have any contact with Braves pitchers during his suspension? For instance would he have been allowed to show up at Kimbral’s house after the game last night with some video and show him some flaw he spotted while watching on TV?
I’ll be watching the Hawks when they go 3 -0 in the second on us.
May 12th, 20117:06 pm
Trading an aging and expensive starting pitcher for a good price would not be the worst thing that could happen to the Braves. Jeffrey D
I was thinking that just maybe we could work a similar trade with someone that needs to win it all now, like the Detroit Tigers when we gave them Doyle Alexander for Smoltz. We eat a little of the contract and we might get a few takers.
prolly not in person, but he could have passed it on I bet
Trading Lowe now makes no sense if your serious about winning. I’m excited we have Minor and Teheran and even Lopez doing great in AAA but do you really believe they can match what Derek Lowe does? I’m not just talking about numbers either. We want to make the playoffs and win the world series, You dont trade your most experienced big game pitcher. Regardless of his age and high salary, he gives us a better chance to win than anyone who would take his spot from AAA. We only trade Lowe during the season if we completely fall apart, Or during the Offseason, I think winning is priority, not freeing up payroll.
May 12th, 20117:07 pm
Its pretty early in the season to that that any team is in that position now or even in the next coupla months Jerry
All aboard! This here train’s going to crappy town. We have the game going on the monitors, and you can all rant and rave all the way to crappy town. Come on Jerry. You too Mitchell. Mixxo, hop on board.
ray, Nick; plenty of seats left.
May 12th, 20117:08 pm
Fine. I’ll just find Robert and Mitchell so we can all discuss our crazy illogical ideas.
Good day, all.
May 12th, 20117:09 pm
Here we go >_>
all my Nats fan friends have shown up at my house with their brooms….
May 12th, 20117:10 pm
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May 12th, 20117:11 pm
Tough cab, he’s not getting the job done. However you wanna look at it, we don’t have the lineup that can afford to shelter a non productive hitter, unless that player just happens to make it up on the defensive side, and quite frankly, Heyward ain’t doing that either.
May 12th, 20117:12 pm
I thought I told you: NO PARTIES IN THE DOGHOUSE!
oh well…….lets just lick our wounds tonight and get ready for the Phightins. We can beat them…..sometimes.
Why do you have Nats fan friends?
Jerry,Mitchell,Murph,Don,Robert,And old man what the hell ever your name is.
What a bunch of losers.
Murph,they really allowed you to have a child !!!!!!
May 12th, 20117:13 pm
Oh btw cab, no Heyward isn’t a wuss because he’s playing hurt. He’s a wuss because he’s fragile as shyt.
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