12:51 pm April 30, 2011, by Carroll Rogers
May 1st, 20111:20 pm
I go to many MLB games and I’m amazed–except in New York and Philadelphia–by the civility of the people going to the games. Atlanta is definitely the least offensive and you wonder if there is anyone who shows up at Athens in the Fall who actually goes to Braves games in the Summer??The people who actually heckle anyone around MLB are in a distinct minority.i always sit close and give my commentary but NEVER make it personal(appearance, wife, kids, outside conduct) but performance on the field is WIDE OPEN.I don’t know exactly what these people said to Roger but it seems he could have laughed anything off EXCEPT for anyone astute enough to bring out low moments in his career that would get to him—and you AGAIN do NOT mention the wife,kids, physical traits or past circumstances of life. At least that’smy code of conduct and I’m a pretty effective heckler and if a guy put a bat between his legs in reaction to something i said, at that point I’m laughing and not getting mad.
PL – was told in the past by DOB he’s just a beat reporter. Apparently its up to the columnists to do the dirty work.
The right thing to do is make McDowell march in a gay parade flanked in rainbows. Oh, visit an AIDS ward to take care of guys that ‘like it’ like that. And finally to apologize to the children he offended in person.. Even though I wanted his ass fired.
May 1st, 20111:23 pm
“From the previous blog which had 1,679 comments, Tomahawkin led the way with 137 posts.”
Now Give Me My Belt! lol, I’m Now The 6-Time Inter-Continential Blog Champion… WOOOOOOOOOO!!!
If It were a Saturday, I’d Grab me a Tall Samuel Jackson in Celebration…
T for Texas
May 1st, 20111:24 pm
enjoying the food spread the team allows them access to everyday, lol!,
Your statement is that they compromise their integrity for a ham sandwich?
*rolls eyes, extends one finger
May 1st, 20111:27 pm
“Atlanta is definitely the least offensive and you wonder if there is anyone who shows up at Athens in the Fall who actually goes to Braves games in the Summer??”
You Should see some of the College Cats I hang with when I go to the Games…Lets Just say we are the types where “Discretion is Advised is Completely Ignored”—Triple H
I might be the only one on here who has gotten kicked out of the ChopHouse Twice…?
I wouldn’t compromise my integrity for anything less than a BLT
Back to normal (Another feeble offensive performance)
Here’s some excerpts from the interview that Gwen Knapp of the SF Chronicle posted that “backs” (I’m being facetious here, lol) the assertion of the “gay Cubs fan” who said that McDowell was kool with gay fans:
(In an interview, Achondo said he did hear an apparent allusion to San Francisco’s large gay population as McDowell said he would shove a bat up three fans’ backsides: “That’s how you like it here, right?”)
Achondo said he heard no profanity, and the incident began with three fans chanting at Atlanta’s David Ross: “We like our Ross better.”
Achondo wrote that the coach, whom he could not identify when he submitted his letter, turned and started shouting that he would “shove this bat up you’re (sic) a-, all the way-yup all three of you.”
After McDowell left, Achondo said, his 7-year-old seemed unusually withdrawn and eventually started to cry. “I didn’t know why, and he just said: ‘I’m hungry,’ ” Achondo said. “My kid doesn’t cry when he’s hungry.”
May 1st, 20111:28 pm
I’m amazed by the “softness” of “journalists”????? who cover teams.I think they should realize that teams have a vested interest in being covered and IF a team ever denied access to a writer, it would be responsibility of his or her employer to tell the team “Hey , you mess with our reporter’s access and you can get your coverage from the Macon Monitor and the Gwinett Journal.”
T For Texas
“*rolls eyes, extends one finger”
DOB and C-Rog will NEVER be confused with Woodward and Bernstein, lol!
May 1st, 20111:29 pm
I’m In The Minority, but I think The McDowell Thing is WAYYY OverBlown…
May 1st, 20111:30 pm
“Hey , you mess with our reporter’s access and you can get your coverage from the Macon Monitor and the Gwinett Journal.”
Lets not forget this is a business and the AJC benefits by covering Braves baseball. And if DOB or CR got ‘banned’ from the clubhouse, my guess is they’d be looking for another job.
Jeff321…….better yet, McDowell should be required to have a weekend sleepover at Bishop Eddie Long’s house!
Hey , you mess with our reporter’s access and you can get your coverage from the Macon Monitor and the Gwinett Journal
And ESPN. And the major local television networks.
May 1st, 20111:32 pm
What concerns me is that there have been no reports of David Ross or any other player that may have been out there stepping in and trying to get McDowell out of there. The gestures are one thing, but you have to think if McDowell was really approaching that Quinn guy with a bat in a threatening manner that someone would have pushed McDowell away.
May 1st, 20111:33 pm
Knowing one’s self and one’s standards in tremendously improtant, jeffrey. You will probably never be caught in the moral middle ground. Besides, there is bacon on that sammich.
Richmond Braves Fan
That is why he would veto the trade my original point. Unless he is traded to a team playoff team in need of a closer he will veto making this whole idea of yours a pointless exercise. He has up to ten teams he can veto. The idea that his option won’t vest even with the Mets is based upon what? 30% to 33% is not far off the pace. He like anyone wants a 17.5 mil salary. Would you blame him especially since he will not get that on the open market? Matt Caps finished 66 last year playing for a bad Washington and then being traded to a playoff team that needed a closer. So 55 is not this untouchable number you think it is. It is not like the contract vest if he breaks the record of 80 something. Do you not realize if he had finished 9 instead of 8 with the Mets he would be on pace. 1 game off the pace this EARLY and you are positive it won’t vest?
And if the Braves trade for him to be their closer but then keep him pace low by inserting Kimbrel or Venters rest assured the players union will take him to court. There are plenty of examples and the players association usually wins or settles in the players favor.
So once again it is not going to happen. KRod will veto it. I do not read this blog enough to know if you are actually serious with this stuff or just trying to stimulate conversation. Because even overlooking the fact that the Braves can’t afford these players in July much less today KRod would obviously veto it. He wants his $17.5 mil and can you blame him?
I’m amazed by the “softness” of “journalists”?????
I’m Ron Burgundy?
It’s obnious that DOB will NEVER comment on this–I guess he thinks I’m being facetious–but I continue to remain amazed the AJC did NOTHING in response to Hudson’s confrontation with DOB when the “gutsy” Timmy blamed DOB for the Griffey acquisition not going through. AJC should have demanded an apology or terminated coverage until it was forthcoming.
May 1st, 20111:34 pm
Did you read the witness account that came out today? Sheds a whole new light on this…
Besides, there is bacon on that sammich.
At my job there’s a “BLT Meeting” once a month. Let me tell you, that name is very misleading. I went once, and was greatly disappointed when there was not a single BLT at the Building Leadership Team meeting.
May 1st, 20111:35 pm
“All Da Way Turn’t Up!”
Lowe 5th in lowest Run Support, not good!
jeffrey d, I’m betting the Braves enjoy the hits they receive on this Blog.
What witness account, Brava?
May 1st, 20111:36 pm
The one I linked to on the previous page, also the same PL linked to, jeffrey.
So under blog logic, the team hates Derek Lowe. A least that’s what they said when Kawakami would give up 0-3 ER and still get a L
Oh, we are going to miss Freddie at 1st today, I think.
Guess the next logical question is: When does McDowell’s contract expire? Because if they resign him.. Wow.
May 1st, 20111:37 pm
Is Punto that good? Man, what a pest.
May 1st, 20111:38 pm
Oh, Here We Go…! Gotta Limit the Damage Here
Did you read the witness account that came out today? Sheds a whole new light on this…
Not really, he’s more so agreeing with the Quinn guy from what he saw, still doesn’t mean he saw everything and we know all the details. Once again that’s not to excuse Roger’s behavior but we have had conflicting reports from different people. The truth is somewhere mixed in all of that.
Come on, Lowe. We need the good D-Lowe to show up.
here we go folks.
Lowe is going to get lit up today.
Sweet, good start!
May 1st, 20111:39 pm
Lou Vales………..The Braves management knows that many Braves fans want to see nothing but GOOD, POSITIVE things reported about their team.
Many fans cringe at the thought of anything negative said about the players they root for (no different than parents who get mad at teachers who have anything bad to say about their kids…even if their kids arent studying and are being disruptive in class).
New York fans, on the other hand, want to see THE TRUTH from the reporters who cover their teams. New York fans want to know WHY their teams are not winning or playing badly. New York fans will rip their own players if they arent performing.
Meanwhile, “great” start for the Braves (first 2 Cardinal runners getting on base with Pujols coming up, lol).
Man, the Cards have a pretty good 2-5. Funny thing is, we got beat by their bottom of the order in the first 2 games.
needed that K on AP.
May 1st, 20111:40 pm
Three sides to the truth….and no video of it. I will go with giving Roger a break on this one but that’s all.
May 1st, 20111:41 pm
there was not a single BLT at the Building Leadership Team meeting.
That’s the best one in a while, JD. Seriously funny.
May 1st, 20111:42 pm
Jake, it corroborates that Roger made the gay slurs, used the bat to make sexual gestures and threatened Quinn. I really don’t need to know more than that. It doesn’t matter what was said to him because it’s his job to ignore hecklers and go about his duties. He admitted his guilt when he apologized and MLB admitted it by “punishing” him.
May 1st, 20111:43 pm
No holiday for Lowe…c’mon guy settle down
Wow, BALLGAME already.
Anyone Ready to Call “Game Over”? I’m gonna wait til the 6th inning unless we just get Slapped before then…
Well, didn’t the Cards sweep us last April as well? We ended up okay…
May 1st, 20111:44 pm
New York fans, on the other hand, want to see THE TRUTH from the reporters who cover their teams. New York fans want to know WHY their teams are not winning or playing badly.
Maybe if they were not New Yorkers they could figure it for themselves, by watching the games.
Brava: When you say that “Lowe is going to get lit up today” …. is that a loaded statement?
It’s a BLOWOUT!
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a Go!)
Fredi, get off your @ss
Will McDowell get sent to sexaholics anonymous? He obviously has some untapped curiosity going on.
Is this Team Hungover or What? GRRRRR!!!!
Lowe is still hung over.
May 1st, 20111:45 pm
well i’m watching another movie instead of this..
Just realized this comment I put up an hour ago never got submitted. Anyway, it was the McDowell story, which is what I was working on and why the blog is late:
MLB has suspended Braves pitching Roger McDowell for two weeks without pay and fined him an undisclosed amount for his actions towards fans in the April 23 game at San Francisco.
Hungover? Sheesh, maybe he should be drunk. Couldn’t pitch any worse. He has been bad Derek for 3 starts now.
Well looks like Lowe brought is F game today…
Well, Drinky McStupid is stinking up the place.
May 1st, 20111:46 pm
What an ugly first inning for Lowe, who’s getting rocked by the Cardinals’ power-laden lineup
This Team STINKS!
That witness account seems a little damning for Roger, but people lose their cool sometimes (I think we might’ve seen this on the blog once or twice…). Hopefully he’ll learn from this and not have any more problems.
With our offense, a 3-0 hole before batting is not good. Not good at all. Oh, and April is over, so let’s not blame it on that any more.
Thanks for the McDowell update, Dave
May 1st, 20111:47 pm
Berkman looks like a steal with the way he has been hitting in the early going…
bgvt, yeah, the way it’s going, I’m sure he’ll “get lit up” again after this game. Hopefully, he won’t drive this time.
May 1st, 20111:48 pm
What a F’d Up Inning!
Feels Like 7-0 (Tear)
May 1st, 20111:49 pm
Bout darn time we got out of that inning. Sure hope we can get some offense today.
Yay, we only gave up three runs !!
Ha HA HA HA !!!!!!
I’ve been saying all along that this team would lose 90 games but I’m changing it to 100 games. They are that bad.
May 1st, 20111:50 pm
You guys are ridiculous
its so fustrating to be down by 3 before we even bat once.
Derek may be a little preoccupied with cell block politics. It is tough to concentrate on pitching to the Cardinals when you have several impending trades of cigarettes for laundry soap, ramen noodles, and an extra dinner roll on the chow line. Also, when it appears that the guys in the next cell block are organizing to move in on your cigarette trade territory there are many more important things to think about than making the absolute correct pitch to Matt Holliday. Anyone who has seen “Oz” should be sympathetic.
it corroborates that Roger made the gay slurs, used the bat to make sexual gestures and threatened Quinn. I really don’t need to know more than that. It doesn’t matter what was said to him because it’s his job to ignore hecklers and go about his duties. He admitted his guilt when he apologized and MLB admitted it by “punishing” him
What gay slur did he say he said, I don’t remember reading that. If you are implying he insinuated something, the way philly fans and others alike like to insinuate southerners sleep with their siblings then that sounds like what he did, but he didn’t “slur” them. Obviously the gestures weren’t good, but once he was alerted to the fact kids were around it doesn’t say he continued to make the gesture. Quinn was accused by another fan of threatening or provoking Roger and Visa versa, a whole lot of he say she say.
The only thing I will agree on is Roger’s actions were out of line, I just wish I know all of what happened because i’m guessing there is more to this story then a coach just going psychotic and attacking innocent children and fathers for no reason at all. We all should be responsible for our actions. Not just Roger.
May 1st, 20111:51 pm
Next time an announcer says a pitch was right down Peachtree at 90 miles an hour, make sure Lowe knows that about the ball … not his Porsche.
Got some work to do…keep it sane and classy, blog.
T for Texas – hilarious post! Only problem is, when someone gets released the same day/night they don’t go into general population.
This guy has a good two seamer, great changeups and curveballs.
May 1st, 20111:52 pm
Prado needs to be traded. He was a one hit wonder.
Our 2011 braves mantra: Dont worry; its early.
Actudlly, they just suck.
Chipper should go hunting instead of spending the remainder of his 30’s with these clowns.
May 1st, 20111:53 pm
It’s gonna be a NO-HITTER today folks.
6 pitches 2 strikeouts
Dear Back To Normal, I’m a 1969 Florida Grad–BIG surprise—and I’ve actually been banned from Florida Web Sites because I have the audacity to question the coaching staff in regards to strategy and other decision making. The last straw was when I expressed disgust with how they allowed certain players to remain on team after transgressions. Maybe Muschamp will be different after finally dismissing jenkins after 3 pot arrests. Sorry for digression, what I meant to say is how I don’t understand this desire for covering a baseball team the way politicians were covered in the 50’s. We may have gone too far now but I’ll still take the balanced approach over knowing I will NEVER hear a discouraging word.
May 1st, 20111:54 pm
Oh come on
Ugly start for our guys today. Keep this up and might just gto ahead and leave for the grocery store.
well were screwed.
We matched their three runs with three Ks
Oy. Wow. Ouch.
That may be the ugliest offensive 1/2 inning I’ve ever seen the Braves play.
I need a drink
How long was the bottom of the 1st inning 3 seconds, with 3 strikeouts?
May 1st, 20111:55 pm
Where is Mitchell At? He might blow a Gasket after this game, And I will be second in line
1 month in and i already wish the season was over…..this team is overrated in every possible way
This team is FINISHED folks…..done.
Good to see our bats show some fight after falling behind early, Oh nevermind we cant even put the ball in play.
May 1st, 20111:56 pm
Whiskey river on my mind………..
May 1st, 2011
Don’t know about the team, but Lowe is hungover. Give that man a few more drinks.
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