11:48 am April 29, 2011, by Carroll Rogers
April 29th, 20111:12 pm
Kind of interesting article on GMs adjusting radar gun readings to gain an advantage:
April 29th, 20111:15 pm
fee, thanks for proving the rest of us correct about this “homophobic” issue. Take was I ssy and spin to suit your needs. First off, asking someone if they are a blank lover or if they are a couple are 2 totally different things, that’s an asinine comparison.
But hey, that’s okay you used it to call me a bigot. Guess it gave you a way to validate yourself.
April 29th, 20111:16 pm
///////keylargo\\\\\\\, April 29th, 2011, 1:04 pm … responding to 1. You are arrested and taken to jail where a blood test is done….”they CAN forcibly take blood from you without a court order?”
I suspect that the court order has to be obtained.
///////keylargo\\\\\\\, April 29th, 2011, 1:04 pm … responding to 2. You lose your license until the trial is over…”And then you’re punished BEFORE your trial?”
A driver’s license is a privilege. It’s revocation is not a punishment. If you don’t abide by the EULA (i.e., that you will take a breathalyzer if you are stopped), the privilege can be revoked without an act of law.
BravesFan in DC
April 29th, 20111:18 pm
Oh boy… them be fightin’ words…
Brian from SC
Darn distractions from what should be a good series…
The Cardinals lead the NL in run scoring, while the Braves lead the NL in run prevention. St. Louis leads the NL in run differential. Despite a .500 record, the Braves are 4th in the NL in that department.
The Braves are glad to be home, and their brutal April will soon be over. They have played 17 games on the road, more than any team in the NL, including the recent western swing. This series starts a stretch of 15 of 18 at home.
Although the Cardinals are smoking the baseball, this will be just their fourth game played this year against a team in the top half of the league in allowing runs. They are averaging over six runs in 10 games against teams in the bottom five of the NL in run prevention, and about 3.5 runs per in their 15 other games.
The Braves offense has paled in comparison, but, just like last April, a lot of their early opponents have good pitching and defense. 13 of their 26 games have been against the four teams ranked 2nd through 5th in the NL in run prevention.
April 29th, 20111:20 pm
That’s pretty bad. Almost like the twins and their fans or Colorado and their humidor baseballs.I guess teams will find ways to gain an edge and call it home-field advantage.
My understanding about the way the law is written in GA is if you refuse a breath test, then you forfeit your license and must take a blood test at either the jail or at a hospital.
No court order needed.
Just had a friend go through the process…
Brian from SC
Where have you been?
I watched some of the Cardinals versus Houston game last night. The Cards seem to have a few issues with their bullpen. Despite a huge lead, they almost blew it for the second time in the series. Houston’s offense isn’t pitiful, but it’s not “all that” either.
If the Braves can bring what they were smoking in the last two games in San Diego, this should be an interesting series.
April 29th, 20111:21 pm
Good to see you posting Brian from SC!
fee, thanks for proving the rest of us correct about this “homophobic” issue. Take was I ssy and spin to suit your needs.
This should actually read…
Free, thanks for proving the rest of us correct about this “homophobic” issue. Take what I was saying and spin it to suit your needs.
April 29th, 20111:23 pm
Thanks, folks. Just busy with life. I’ve been watching the games, but haven’t spent much time on the ol’ blog. Recent days have brought me here more frequently. Heh.
Stuff like this rarely affects sports teams much. We’d need a few more things to happen to really cause some distractions. You know, some injuries and whatnot. Maybe some clubhouse altercations with Fredi and whatnot.
Or just some undetermined whatnot.
April 29th, 20111:24 pm
The Cards have so many weapons up and down their lineup that they dont even need Pujols to be clicking for them to produce runs.Holliday, Rasmus, Freese and of course Ark Trans’ favorite Cardinal (he even picks him in fantasy teams folks!) Lance Berkman who is healthy and hot right now. I doubt we can shut them down, so let us hope our bats are awake.
I’m just glad that when I screw up, it doesn’t end up on the front page of the paper for all to judge.
April 29th, 20111:25 pm
Has Lowe possibly never heard of Dany Heatley/Dan Snyder?
We’ve been begging for signs of a pulse in the country-clubhouse for several years now. McDowell-Lowe, well, better than Heyward-Freeman or Hanson-Venters.
Not to make light of these situations at all, but maybe somehow these off the field antics will cause the team to re-focus, gel, and go on a tear… Just trying to find a bright side here…
We’d need a few more things to happen to really cause some distractions
Like bullpen fight club?
April 29th, 20111:26 pm
Suddenly our team is made out of perverts?
Our captain having sex with 10 year old girl?
April 29th, 20111:27 pm
What is going on with this team lately…..They used to be the model of goodness and know a DUI, and racial gay comments.
Freddy Gonzalez will need to put some discipline here, can you imagine if this happen with Bobby, no because he commanded and received the respect he deserved. Time for the same from Freddy.
How drunk was Derek? Because if he only had a beer and got arrested…….Then I blame the government and they’re damn overprotective rules.
if lowe for some reason had to spend some time in jail could he be put on the DL for that? or would the braves have to use two spots to cover him?
April 29th, 20111:28 pm
I’ve got a statement to read just as soon as I finish cussing.
May take a while though.
Other than 24 hours in jail there’s no super downside to someone like him with a DUI. No MLB suspension. Maybe he can’t go to Canada for games. Can’t drive the team bus. Can’t fly the plane. Even Allen Iverson had a driver (for his Lambo) when he got pulled in Buckhead. Can’t wait to see if the police report is as good as the one the AJC obtained on that Damon Evans case.
That’s probably a good reason they are paid in the millions, dont you think?
Just trying to find a bright side here…
I really don’t think there’s much of a dark side (no Star Wars jokes, please). Lowe made a mistake. And I really think McDowell’s altercation is being taken out of context. It’s all in the past, and we need to learn from what happened and move on.
McFann O O
April 29th, 20111:29 pm
Snotboogie McFann is that you?
Remaining in lurk mode until the focus shifts back to the actual game.
April 29th, 20111:30 pm
“as big a one-two punch as I can remember in my 16 years (off and on) around the Braves.”
Holy Christ. Ease up on the hyperbole and sensationalism, toots. I’ve never heard of you, but you lose serious credibility points with that absurd statement.
You can spin it any way you want, but I assure you if I had paid for tickets to get into a game with my son when he was nine years old and he had watched a uniformed coach of any team thrust his hips and make masturbatory motions on a bat while asking fans if they took it up the @ss, I too would have engaged him.
Whether that father handled this appropriately or even if he hopes to gain monetarily from it, is of no concern to me. My concern is that a coach, a leader of the Braves organization who should be enforcing standards of conduct, may have done something so crude and disgusting in front of young children, and then, when confronted by a parent, rather than apologize, became threatening. If he did this, he should be fired. If any of you feel any other way about it, I’m frankly baffled by that.
Yeah, they’re paid millions, but they’re still humans just like you and me. They’re still subject to shortcomings and mistakes.
William and Kate are married, and all is right in the world.
April 29th, 20111:31 pm
my thinking is that a license cannot be revoked without due process. If you ARE convicted of DUI, yes then I can see the revocation. But to say if you don’t contribute to the Police accumulation of evidence against you, you’ll automatically lose your license is absurd.
And to say if you don’t blow up this balloon, we’re taking you to jail, strapping you down and taking your blood to use as evidence against you is even more absurd.
April 29th, 20111:33 pm
William and Kate are married, and all is right in the world.
Who the hell is this William guy, and does Jon know?
I hope he likes kids.
That argument died when the news broke he was racing on Peachtree and both racers were arrested.
Both of these guys (RM and DL) are old enough and astute enough to avoid problems like this.
Makes me wonder if RM wasn’t drinking pregame if the accusations are true.
Getting the truth about any situation is difficult.
I think you lose your licence for at least 6 months if your refuse to take a breathyzer or blood test. I don’t think they can force you to take a blood test, unless they’ve changed the law in recent years.
Any law enforcement personnel or acutal lawyers on the blog?
This situation with McDowell, and now Lowe, reminds me of 1991 when Brian Hunter and then Keith Mitchell, both rookies, got DUIs back to back in Sepember, I think, during the heat of the pennant race.
Terry Pendelton took those young men aside, into an empty room, closed the door, and read them the riot act. No more problems.
April 29th, 20111:34 pm
I remembered your questions about their rather un-real-world-like salaries and thought this adds to the justification of those amounts – the public scrutiny and pressure.
Tomas….Who say that Freddie will not address this issue tonight in the Club House in Close door.
He will..Bank on that, but the Manager can’t be 24 – 7 in their private life with his player, not even in ours on Life with Ours Kid…
Maybe that’s why they broke up.
April 29th, 20111:35 pm
Both of these guys (RM and DL) are old enough and astute enough to avoid problems like this.
What does “old enough” have to do with anything? Have you seen Mixxo’s posts?
Hey Caroll, I went to the Myrtle Beach Pelicans game last night, and although the team is now affiliated with Texas, they still have a wall where they post former players that make it to the Majors. There’s a fresh new plaque up there for Cory Gearrin – and I attempted to take a photo with my phone, but I couldn’t zoom in.
I dedicate this tune to D. Lowe…… Life in the fast lane…. CR this team has been so vanilla for so long a little Drama ain’t so bad. No blood no foul !!! How many of us have not tied one on and raced on 285 or Cobb Pkwy we were just maybe 15 years younger than Lowe. Ok so he is a late bloomer !!!! As for Roger… Those things are better thought than said. I don’t think dude should be fined or fired though. An apology should be enough, Go Bravos !!!! Oh.. CR are you running the 5k on Sat ?
April 29th, 20111:36 pm
I generally believe the fans should not engage the millionaires over the wall, on the field, on the court, in the parking lot and at the restaurant. These are not upstanding citizens as such, they are ballplayers.
Sure, don’t cuss in front of kids, but I have been doing that all my life. I even get to cuss in court when I am quoting cussing. And although this may be blaming the ‘victim’, I wonder what the heckling fans were saying and whether the ‘victim’ confronted them as well. Doubt it.
April 29th, 20111:37 pm
nice rundown, brian from SC. thanks for that. i actually like our chances against st louis, especially at home. we get the last AB, and they are a little unstable out there in the bullpen.
by the way, ive always liked lance berkman, and im glad to see him doing so well. he also looks pretty good in RF, which means i owe somebody (cant remember who) an apology for scoffing at the idea of him playing outfield for the braves.
Lowe brought attention to his drunkenness by playing NASCAR on Peachtree. I see douchebags do it everyday here in town. He is lucky he isn’t up on vehicular manslaughter charges for killing someone. Geez you got millions of bucks hire a limo and kick it in the back if you wanna party.
I actually read a blog years ago talking about how the Red Sox got rid of Lowe because of his alcohol issues… I guess when you have millions of dollars and work every 5 days for 8 months out of the year you get bored……….. and booze. C’mon DLowe… call a cab and you can throw back as many as you want (as long as you’re not on the bump the next day).
That works with young men and is a good response.
These guys are too old for it to have any effect.
These two incidents are not about Fredi vs Bobby at all.
Plenty of problems during Bobby’s time too.
Eric from MO
Tomas the exact thing did happen with Bobby with Rocker and Furcal. He did nothing and rightfully so. I have over 50 employees under me. Over 10 have a DWI and several of them have multiple ones. It is not my responisbilty to discipline them nor is it Bobby’s or Freddi’s. They are managers, not parents.
April 29th, 20111:38 pm
Brava-”My concern is that a coach, a leader of the Braves organization who should be enforcing standards of conduct, may have done something so crude and disgusting in front of young children, and then, when confronted by a parent, rather than apologize, became threatening. If he did this, he should be fired”
I agree, that kind of thing can have it’s place in the locker-room but not out in view and within earshot of women and children. The fans are the reason these guys can have luxurious lifestyles for playing a game. No need to agitate them or be combative. Kill
em with kindness. Can i say that?
April 29th, 20111:39 pm
In other Braves news Mark Richt has taken over as manager.
Says he can fix the discipline issues…
April 29th, 20111:40 pm
Ward are you a lawyer? Or is your dad (or another close relative) one?
If you are, I can understand your insensitivity to reality and things that ultimately affect not only the Braves (just because it happened off the field doesn’t mean it won’t have a negative impact), but in Lowe’s case innocent citizens along the streets of Atlanta.
The reason I ask is because if you’re NOT a lawyer, you’re slowly becoming the blog’s biggest douche.
Which should make Nick happy.
Thanks for telling me how to think and react. I would never have known otherwise.
carlchamblee – Hahahaha that’s pretty funny.
Let Derek in jail if you want, call up Julio Teheran……
I’ll wager Gonzalez addresses both the McDowell and Lowe situations with players behind closed doors. First, don’t engage fans, no matter the provocation. Second, don’t drink and drive – or race – or else. In fact, don’t race sober, especially in a typically busy section of Atlanta. Go to a track.
I’m sure the Braves have all sorts of conduct or behavior clauses in contracts with their players. I think the players will be reminded of these clauses.
You can lose your license for a year if you refuse the test. Instead, you pay the $150 to get an ALS hearing, you tell the cop you will plead to the DUI and he withdraws the “1205″ suspension thingy. Then when you plead to the DUI you still get a year suspension but you can get a limited permit immediately. On a first DUI. You mileage may vary.
April 29th, 20111:41 pm
nolie Anyone know if Kate Middleton was a virgin prior to her wedding?
dont know for sure, but i think she and william cohabitated before the wedding. if they did, then im pretty sure she was not.
If I am Arrested for DUI in Florida, am I Required to Take a Chemical Test?
No. If you are arrested and charged with a DUI, you may choose not to take a breath or blood BAC (blood alcohol content) test. However, a refusal to do so will have serious consequences due to Florida’s implied consent laws.
What is Implied Consent?
Florida’s implied consent law states that any person who accepts the privilege of operating a motor vehicle within the state is, by so operating such vehicle, deemed to have given his or her consent to submit to an approved chemical test or physical test. These tests include, but are not limited to, an infrared light test of his or her breath for the purpose of determining the alcoholic content of his or her blood or breath if the person is lawfully arrested for any offense allegedly committed while the person was driving or was in actual physical control of a motor vehicle while under the influence of alcoholic beverages.
Additionally, Florida law stipulates that in DUI cases involving serious bodily injury or death, an officer may use reasonable force if necessary to require the driver to submit to the administration of a blood test. Even if you refuse, reasonable force may be used to draw blood for a BAC test under these circumstances.
What are the Penalties for Refusing to Take a Breath or Blood Test After Being Arrested for DUI?
If you are lawfully arrested for a DUI and refuse to submit to a BAC test, you will be subjected to mandatory license suspensions. Additionally, you may be charged with a criminal misdemeanor for subsequent refusals. The penalties for refusing to take a BAC test are in addition to the standard penalties for a DUI. The penalties for refusal are as follows:
First Offense: License suspension for 1 year
Second and Subsequent Offenses: License suspension for 18 months and first degree misdemeanor charges
April 29th, 20111:42 pm
nolie – I’m not allowed to disclose that information…
These guy~s are human.as for Roger was in San Fran and most of those people are funny
if you know what I mean. and as for Derek it don`t take much to get a DUI one beer or one glass of wine,
and look at the car he was driving,I`am 68 and I like to race.So all of you holy rollers get a life.
Most of us grow up at some point that I often joke otherwise about myself.
Now when I was young none of this might have made a difference to me either.
But times are tough and these guys are still being paid ridiculously above their worth.
Older fans see incidents like this and decide not to buy tickets anymore.
Even before these two incidents, the Ted had its two lowest games of attendance.
I’ll bet it gets worse for a number of reasons.
This won’t help one bit.
“I have over 50 employees under me. Over 10 have a DWI and several of them have multiple ones.” -Eric MO
Please tell me you don’t run a taxi service
April 29th, 20111:43 pm
Playoffs – yes you can lose your license for refusing to take a breath test. But not before the trial. AND you have to be convicted of DUI and for refusing to take a breath test.
I just disagreed with Flange 1 saying this:
2. You lose your license until the trial is over.
April 29th, 20111:44 pm
Someone posted about McCann never being elected an All-Star starter. Not sure of the facts here but I have seen a similar situation with Ted Simmons in St. Louis. First you have Bench, then the Bench mystique, then Gary Carter. Simmons was one heck of a hitter for a catcher, extremely consistent for a full decade with the Cardinals. McCann is the same, he doesn’t dazzle you with his defense but he’s an extremely consistent hitter with solid but unspectacular power.
Thanks for twisting my words. At no time did I tell you how to think. I merely said I find it baffling that anyone wouldn’t want him fired if he did these things. For your information, that’s called an opinion.
April 29th, 20111:45 pm
The Great Recession has started older fans thinking MLB is not worth the high price of tickets.
Three straight years of lower attendance.
MLB is worried.
Article somewhere on the web with details.
by the way, ive always liked lance berkman, and im glad to see him doing so well. he also looks pretty good in RF, which means i owe somebody (cant remember who) an apology for scoffing at the idea of him playing outfield for the braves. – DAP
That would be me by the way. You weren’t the only one giving me grief thought, so don’t feel bad.
Eric, you can’t refer to your family members as “employees”…
April 29th, 20111:46 pm
Brava that father just wanted some attention. Would you then take your son, stick him in front of a news conference for the world to see, and have your high price lawyer repeat the actions over and over? So it then could be replayed over and over. If you truely believed it would screw up your children. I personally loved where one of the girls read from a sheet a paper how much it disturbed her. Really?? It disturbed her so much she had to read it?
If he didnt like it and said he would never return to a game, then I would believe he was truely upset. He just wants some fame and maybe a quick buck.
While what Roger did was in poor taste its being blown out of proportion, starting with the father. Roger did nothing more than what is done on TV and Im not even talking about skinamax. CBS and Fox show worse than what Roger did. Like I said, it was in bad taste, but if anything has ever been blown out of proportion this was.
A little gallows humor about McDowell and Lowe isn’t horrible, in my estimation. But, yep, especially in Lowe’s case, if he did what he’s accused of doing, innocent people could have been injured or killed.
April 29th, 20111:48 pm
Can you imagine the poo-poo storm this would have caused if Lowe was still pitching like he did in 2009?
April 29th, 20111:49 pm
sorry AT, your instincts were good on that one.
thought = though
“Anyone know if Kate Middleton was a virgin prior to her wedding?”
Yes she was but we don’t know for how many years or when that changed. Nor do we need to know or have a right to know.
April 29th, 20111:50 pm
Mr. Enigma – I don’t want to think about that much poo poo flying through the air…
Good point. If they’re getting paid a boatload to be famous, they gotta take the good and the bad, right?
I’m just a very sympathetic/empathetic person when it comes to stuff like this though.
Right, Eric, got it. The father is wrong and what Roger did is being blown out of proportion
Thanks DAP, but no apologies were necessary.
April 29th, 20111:51 pm
kta – 1. Thanks for letting us know,”even though we don’t have a right to know”. 2 – It was a joke… If you can’t tell we could use some humor today…
I am not a lawyer, just giving out information from a buddy that just got a DUI in Atlanta. He did not take the breath test and lost his ability to drive until the trial.
April 29th, 20111:52 pm
Perhaps this will get Derek Lowe off the field for a few games and we can actually win some games he would have started in. Guy has been bad for us lately. Seven Runs allowed in 9 innings pitched. Braves 0-2 in those games.
As for Roger…anti-gay slurs. Shouldn’t get in any trouble for them, but he probably will. Not really sure how its any different than what players/coaches normally say. The real problem isn’t what he said, but is that he said it to a fan. Shouldn’t be talking to fans during the game. Especially the other team’s fans.
Oh, and thanks for the new blog, Carroll! Thanks to my stepdad’s company, I’ll be on the field for BP tomorrow
Well, to be fair, Berkman isn’t exactly playing well in the outfield, according to the numbers. But he did lose a bunch of weight in the off-season, and got himself into shape enough to actually try it, which is more than I expected.
Eric from MO… We’re not sure what McDowell did. The facts, if in hand, aren’t yet public. I believe – but don’t know – that his accusers are either untruthful or exaggerating. We’ll see, though.
April 29th, 20111:53 pm
Why is it taking so long to get some sort of release from the Braves regarding McDowell’s fate?
one of the girls read from a sheet a paper how much it disturbed her
Please tell me that didn’t really happen.
Carl at 1:42 funny. I did actually laugh. Thank you.
Bravefan in DC, not sure what you meant. Probably a bad joke. Maybe I will get a lawyer and hold a news conference.
April 29th, 20111:55 pm
Eric – Well played, sir.
They’re still reading all the blogs to figure out an appropriate response.
April 29th, 20111:56 pm
Brava, didnt say the father was wrong. Just saying if he was truly upset and believed his daughters were scarred for life then he wouldnt be dragging them through this. And yes it is blown out of proportions. Roger made a bad joke. Move on.
April 29th, 20111:57 pm
Yes Jeffrey google it. Its on the 1min and 44 sec clip. She looked at the camera and then looked down at a sheet of paper and read it. She was greatly scarred.
No keylargo, on a refusal you lose your license 30 days after the arrest and if you failed to request the ALS (administrative license suspension) hearing within 10 business days of the arrest.
People pay lawyers thousands upon thousands for this kind of advice but I’ll sell the first time, DUI guilty plea for $500. It’s kind of formulaic. George Stein and Bubba Head both wrote great books about this stuff. I bought both.
April 29th, 20111:58 pm
MFin04 Shouldn’t be talking to fans during the game.
it wasnt during a game.
April 29th, 20111:59 pm
DAP – When was it? I thought I read he said it from the dugout?
April 29th, 20112:00 pm
MFin04 When was it? I thought I read he said it from the dugout?
sounds like it was during batting practice or fielding drills, before the game.
“kta – 1. Thanks for letting us know,”even though we don’t have a right to know”. 2 – It was a joke… If you can’t tell we could use some humor today…”
Oh…that was a joke and humor? Stupid Stupid me. I was just too slow and dumb to get it. I thought you really wanted to know since you brought it up. I guess I’m just not a wild and crazy guy like some of you.
April 29th, 20112:01 pm
kta – I didn’t bring it up. Read the blog…
April 29th, 20112:02 pm
Still waiting to know what will happen to Mcdowell and Lowe. Talk after game. Time to go to work…. peace all…..later.
April 29th, 20112:04 pm
Buy buy Ward
April 29th, 20112:05 pm
April 29th, 20112:06 pm
Glad we didn’t resign Saito. He’s only made two relief appearances and was placed on the DL for a left hamstring strain. He left his first rehab assignment yesterday with an oblique strain. Feel bad for him, but glad he’s not a Brave.
April 29th, 20112:07 pm
That’s because Saito turned 87 during the off-season…
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