Braves place McDowell on administrative leave – updated

The Braves have placed pitching coach Roger McDowell on administrative leave while they continue to investigate allegations that he directed anti-gay slurs toward fans at San Francisco’s AT&T Park.

Braves general manager Frank Wren said Friday he hoped to have the situation resolved in “the next day or so.” The Braves are working in conjunction with Major League Baseball to determine how to proceed.

Wren would not comment on what McDowell’s potential punishment would be, or whether McDowell would lose his job. But when Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez was asked if he thought this would cost McDowell his job, he said no.

“In my opinion it shouldn’t,” Gonzalez said. “I’m sure there’s going to be some hoops that he’s going to have to go through and some apologizing, which he should have to go through, but for a person to lose their job, I wouldn’t think so and I hope it doesn’t.”

McDowell was not at Turner Field Friday but has been in close contact with Gonzalez, who lives four doors down from him in Marietta.

“Roger is hurting,” Gonzalez said. “He’s got to deal with a family and his reputation and no matter what the punishment is or whatever it is, he’s got to pay it to a little higher authority. He’s going to be ok.”

The Braves have interviewed McDowell and witnesses, Wren said.

“We have Roger’s side of the story and we also have some witnesses that have corroborated what Roger has told us,” Wren said. “Once we have completed that process we’ll be a little more forthcoming with the facts.”

The Braves are not expected to interview Giants fan Justin Quinn, 33, who issued the complaint against McDowell.

“I think we have a pretty good idea of his side of the story,” Wren said. “He had a press conference.”

The last Brave to miss game action for inflammatory remarks was former closer John Rocker after his 1999 tirade in Sports Illustrated. Rocker was originally fined $20,000 by Major League Baseball and suspended for a month, but his sanctions were reduced to a $500 fine and a two-week suspension by an arbitrator.

McDowell, in his sixth season as Braves pitching coach, issued an apology on Wednesday, saying “I am deeply sorry that I responded to the heckling fans in San Francisco on Saturday. I apologize to everyone for my actions.”

The Braves announced that minor league pitching coordinator Dave Wallace would fill in during McDowell’s absence.

Wallace is in his second year in the Braves organization. He’s a veteran of 30 seasons as a major and minor league coach and front office executive. He’s and a former pitching coach for of the Astros, Red Sox, Mets and Dodgers. He’s also a mentor of McDowell’s.

“They’ve been on the same page, so that will be somewhat seamless,” Wren said. “Roger is an important part of our organization, an important part of our pitching staff. He’s done a terrific job. He’d be the first to tell you he made a mistake and he’s eventually going to pay the consequences.”

Quinn, 33, of Fresno, Calif. man came forward Wednesday, accusing McDowell of yelling “Are you a homo couple or a threesome?” to fans sitting in the left field seats Saturday and simulating a sex act with a bat.

Quinn, who was sitting nearby with his 9-year-old twin daughters, said he asked McDowell to watch his language in front of children.

Quinn’s attorney, celebrity lawyer Gloria Allred, said McDowell responded by saying “Kids don’t [expletive] belong at the baseball park.”

She also said McDowell walked toward him in a threatening manner, holding a bat. Quinn said McDowell asked him “How much are your teeth worth?”

Quinn demanded an apology at a press conference held Wednesday in Los Angeles with his wife and two daughters.

Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig called Quinn’s allegations “very troubling” and said in a statement Wednesday he would determine how to proceed after the Braves complete their investigation and report to him.

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Brandon

April 29th, 2011
3:24 pm

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Brandon

April 29th, 2011
3:25 pm

Darlington

April 29th, 2011
3:31 pm

McDowell’s comments (if true) are reprehensible, and if true he probably needs to go. However, one wonders why even if they are true, someone who was merely heckled needs to retain a “celebrity lawyer.”

Jere

April 29th, 2011
3:39 pm

The gay slur was bad enough – but “Kids don’t [expletive] belong at the baseball park.”? That’s bad policy, bad business, and strikes at the heart of what makes baseball great. How do you keep paying fans coming if you don’t win the hearts and minds of the kids?

Roger, you never could carry Leo Mazzone’s jockstrap. This may not be enough to get you fired – but I’d sure love to see Leo back in the dugout and you gone.

BravesFaninVA

April 29th, 2011
3:40 pm

If that “fan” really cared about protecting his kids he has a funny way of showing it. If you want to keep your family out of the media eye the last thing you do is call stupid Gloria Alred…

Reid in EAV

April 29th, 2011
3:41 pm

Given Gloria Allred’s involvement, I remain incredibly doubtful about most of the “facts” as relayed by her, particularly the comment about kids. It just doesn’t seem like something he would have said, even in the heat of the moment.

holycrap!!

April 29th, 2011
3:42 pm

its hard to believe he did this just for the fact that the comments are out of this world. who says that kinda stuff. “how much are your teeth worth”, WHAT?? WHO SAYS THAT. and who would say children dont belong at a ballgame. everyone knows that a baseball game is a great family environment. just some bogus comments made, if true!

Marc D

April 29th, 2011
3:47 pm

and I think that Sam should be mocked and ridiculed so I guess we’re even.

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bvillebaron

April 29th, 2011
3:49 pm

Reprehensible comments by McDowell? Yes, if accurate. Should he receive some type of punishment? Probably in the form of senstivity training (which is what Allred requested), a fine and maybe a suspension. Termination? I think that is a little harsh.

I also want to know what type of legal action Mr. Quinn is contemplating bringing against McDowell. Perhaps a criminal action for harassment and/or making terroristic threats. However, unless there are some specific statute in California, I don’t see how he has either a recongnizable civil cause of action or, even if he did,any recoverable damages.

DC Braves Fan

April 29th, 2011
3:52 pm

Marc D. – I’m on your side, Sam should be mocked and ridiculed, so it is no longer even!

nick p.

April 29th, 2011
3:53 pm

terrible way to act, what does he mean kids dont belong to the stadium, its an american padttime, its catered to kids and families, what a moron, but still this is the ifrst time i have ever heard anything negative from McDowell, fine him, suspend him, but give him a second chance, no one in this country should have hir or her bread taken away over a one time offense, if it happens again then yes fire himm, but please give him the chance to prove himself and put this behind him.

nick p.

April 29th, 2011
3:54 pm

sam, most of the country cares, this is not the old USA anymore where anyone different can be bashed and embarrassed because you see them as different, dont be a moron!

frw

April 29th, 2011
4:02 pm

Thats enough on this BS

colt seavers

April 29th, 2011
4:06 pm

Man, this is worse than the time he spit on Kramer and Newman…

Mark

April 29th, 2011
4:07 pm

McDowell responded by saying “Kids don’t [expletive] belong at the baseball park.”

Some of the allegations may be true, but there is no way that McDowell said this. Give me a break.

blackbird

April 29th, 2011
4:23 pm

The fans weren’t sitting alone, has anyone else from that section come forward to validate the claims?

Dan Berman4

April 29th, 2011
4:26 pm

Either way baseball has had a lot of incidents to deal with lately.

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Mark

April 29th, 2011
4:32 pm

Leo is sitting by his telephone rocking away right now…….

kirkinga

April 29th, 2011
4:34 pm

What needs investigating? I assume McDowell has been honest with the organization about the alleged events.

Surely McDowell has told them what he did, or did not do. If he did not do anything, then he should not be placed on administrative leave for PR sakes as that is unfair to him.

haha

April 29th, 2011
4:37 pm

da braves got some issues lol jerry jerry!

Braint

April 29th, 2011
4:42 pm

Sorry, but if I’m innocent of the allegations — I don’t issue an apology. I state that these events are not true and please hold your judgement until the matter can be fully investigated.

He has sat in the dugout in Atlanta for the last time.

Amber

April 29th, 2011
5:01 pm

Exactly, Braint.

joedub

April 29th, 2011
5:09 pm

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=c768a07d-3b51-4591-963e-3966a27b39b9

OH MY GOD! this might be the best video ever. the demonstration at the end is amazing. how exactly did he motion with the bat? can you demonstrate it one more time please.

sorry, but despite the severity of the incident, effing kids don’t belong in your ego-tastic news conference.

Nate from maine

April 29th, 2011
5:17 pm

I think it is time to get rid of McDowell. I never liked him and I think he has ruined alot of good young pitchers. Bring back leo….

BILLMAIER

April 29th, 2011
5:20 pm

Im glad that so many on this blog were not there and yet know exactly what was said and what was not said– gesture made gestures not made– i dont know about all of you but i have had people say that i said something and it wasn’t even close to what was said for right now until allthe facts are in witnesses interviewed everythging is heresay one guys word against roger– so give it a rest those calling for drastic action without the facts i still thought that your innocent until proven guilty – he may have responded to some heckling fans- but how do any of us know what the lawyer is saying may not be exxagerated and may not be absolutely accurate– so until then unless you were there and saw and hear yourself please withold judgemtn and discipline

milesarcher33

April 29th, 2011
5:26 pm

His comment about the couple or threesome was bad enough. But what he said about kids at the ballpark is terrible. He shoukd be fired!!!!

jim

April 29th, 2011
5:35 pm

It seems that there are two camps on tis blog:
Those offended by McDowell’s action and want to see him disciplined or fired fr that, and

Those that want to see him fired because they don’t like him as a pitcing coach and/or venrate St. Leo.
Asto the first group, the picture of what exactly happened in SF will become clearer in a few days, and the appropriate action based on the facts will occur.

As for the second grup — Exactly what young pitchers did McDowell ruin? How has Leo done as a pitching coach since leaving the Braves? His credentials were polished having the likes of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Avery, Nagle, and Millwood to coach, but his strength seemed to be rehabilitating old pitchers not working with the young ones. The Braves rotation and bullpen will be flled with young arms within the next couple of years who will probably work better with a younger pitching coach than Leo. Whatever the truth about his personal behavior, Roger McDowell has been a pretty effective pitching coach as the staff numbers over the last two years have indicated.

BILLMAIER

April 29th, 2011
5:35 pm

this is getting ridiculous what good young pitchers has mcdowell ruined- hanson, kimbrel, venters, beachy, gearrin jj????????????????????????– please people at least make accurate statements fire him he has ruined our whole pitching staff – how more idiotic can the statements be— he has runded our young pichers– give me a break

ph

April 29th, 2011
5:37 pm

the whole “First” thing is dumb. Stop with those stupid comments. I know McDowell said something to the fans, but I don’t think it was as bad as what this guy described. And as offensive as that sex act he did with the bat, this celeb lawyer was sure to demonstrate it in front of the guy’s little kids. So, uh so much for not wanting your kids to see that.

racman

April 29th, 2011
5:44 pm

Rid the organization of losers like McDowell & Lowe, and in the long run, the organization will be better for it.

Furman Bitcher

April 29th, 2011
5:48 pm

No way he said kids dont belong at the park. That part was completely made up by the loser dad.

jw

April 29th, 2011
5:49 pm

I posted in the other thread that I didn’t think Roger would survive this mess. This is the beginning of the end – get Leo ready!

Furman Bitcher

April 29th, 2011
5:50 pm

No way they bring Leo back. Mcdowell will be fined and he will be back next week.

Jason W

April 29th, 2011
5:53 pm

I’m not supporting McDowell in any way, as you have to take the higher ground given the position that you are in, but these same people that are calling for McDowell to be fired, I wonder if they’re the same people that give money to their church each week as their preacher puts homosexuals on blast. Roger is no preacher, but do you scream for your preacher to stand down?

Political Guy

April 29th, 2011
5:54 pm

I’m pretty sure, when all the facts are in, both sides will come out looking immature. That video is ridiculous. What are those parents thinking? And why would a coach that has been around the game as long as McDowell make such ignorant and threatening remarks to fans? I’ve seen fans removed from stadiums for excessive abusive behavior toward players on many occasions. I have been a Braves fan since the mid 1960″s. I hope much of what the fan says is not true, but if it is, Coach McDowell should receive a suspension, a fine, sensitivity training, perform a little public service, and go back to work coaching the Braves pitchers. I see a lot of gay, San Francisco, Nancy Pelosi, liberal bashing from Braves fans on this and other sites. It seems wrong to blame San Francisco for rude fans… rude fans are everywhere. Gay people are abundant in San Francisco, but for Coach McDowell to respond the way he was reported to have responded shows either a homophobic problem or a 7th grade mentality. I am not gay or from San Francisco, but I do resent the insinuation that this was somehow caused by liberals. If what he is said to have done was actually done, blaming the fans as taunters and liberals is foolish. McDowell is wrong regardless what was said to him. His only correct responses could have been, as I and every other successful elementary school teacher remind students daily, is to walk away or get security to solve the problem. He is a professional and an adult, he should act like one. Hopefully he did not do all he is accused of doing. Those parents are fools for having those gilrs involved in that news conference. That could be construed as child abuse.

jim

April 29th, 2011
5:54 pm

The fans on this blog have expressed their opinion about the effect a hitting coach can have on his batters when discussing TP. If the effect of a coach is that critical, then changing pitching coaches in mid season could be damaging. McDowell has worked with this staff for six years and knows the adjustments that need to be made from start-to-start for each pitcher. McDowell received credit for helping Lowe rediscover his sinker during his troubles last summer. A new coach will have to learn about all of the individuals on the staff before he can be most helpful in making the game-to-game corrections. If McDowell is guilty as charged of most of the things he is acused of saying he will have to be dismissed, but the transition to a new coach may not be seamless.

Ken Stallings

April 29th, 2011
6:20 pm

Reading between the lines, it seems the Braves leadership is not thinking the accuser’s story is the whole truth! Saying that there are witnesses “who corroborate [McDowell's] side of the story,” while also saying they have no plans to interview the accuser cements that!

Adding in the rather pointed “he had a press conference,” also indicated what the Braves think about the accuser’s motivations!

Looks like Roger did the right thing and confessed the truth and he’ll get a few days off for his troubles and need to meet the Braves’ and MLB’s requirements to return to work.

rich

April 29th, 2011
6:24 pm

Fire McDowell and Gonzalez. I refuse to go to see another game with this hater there and his supporter the manager. Neither of them should be able to stay in the game.

Jamey

April 29th, 2011
6:26 pm

This is a bad thing for McDowell to do however. celebrity lawyer? Come on. He was irritated becuase you were heckling him. Because he responded like he did does not mean this man won the darned lottery. I bet McDowell gets sued. He shouldn’t. If so he should get counter sued for provocation. If Mac was a bad man this would not be the first time. Get over it.

Wasabi

April 29th, 2011
6:29 pm

Jason W Preachers against perverted sex acts are not wrong–just the perverts that commit them, Sorry if this affects you personally but if it does then clean up your act. Society does not need sexual perverts. child molesters.etc, Wake up sweetie

Wasabi

April 29th, 2011
6:31 pm

Jason W. Apoligize. I misread your blog. sorry

N Nine

April 29th, 2011
6:31 pm

Carroll: Please change the following! “The Braves are not expected to interview Giants fan Justin Quinn, 33, who issued the complaint against Lowe.”

Furman Bitcher

April 29th, 2011
6:33 pm

i support McDowell 100%. Get some thicker skin. I go to about 40 games a year and if you are there early you know there is a lot of back and forth between players and fans. This dad is a loser looking for some pub and probably a little payout.

Ed

April 29th, 2011
6:33 pm

Lose his JOB over a homosexual slur? Puh-lease. Give me a break. Political correctness has gotten way out of control in this country.

BIOMASS

April 29th, 2011
6:33 pm

the Braves should fire McDowell and hire Elton John as pitching coach.

Or is he a catching coach?

Wasabi

April 29th, 2011
6:35 pm

Let’s say a prayer for Lowe and McDowell and hope they survuve this mess and become better for it.

Wasabi

April 29th, 2011
6:36 pm

survive I say

jw

April 29th, 2011
6:38 pm

In today’s politically correct world, McDowell crossed the line – I can’t see any way that he survives this deal – it is sad, but it’s true and he will be demoted or released before the end of the weekend. The team can’t take the hit with what he did – unfortunately, Lowe will pay the fine, go to the class and all will be well – the public looks at that stuff differently. I’m not saying one is right or one is wrong – they both let the city down – but the social implications have already convicted Roger and he won’t be able to survive.

DaveinNEPA

April 29th, 2011
6:38 pm

@ Rich

Too bad we can’t fire you. What a totally assinine comment!!!

Sir Lancelot

April 29th, 2011
6:38 pm

BIOMASS I watched some of the royal wedding this morning and saw two queens there–Elizabeth and Elton.

Who Sues For Things Like This?

April 29th, 2011
6:39 pm

What kind of low-life goes from the ballpark to a celebrity attorney’s office in this situation? Whatever offense the little 9-year old twins may have gleaned from this incident, it pales in comparison to the egomaniacal overreaction of their father. Although McDowell may have erred, Quinn is a buffoon and his children are being used as pawns.

S. Redouet

April 29th, 2011
6:42 pm

The Braves have stood out as a classy organization for years. Players are delighted to come to this club – it shows character and respect for all. McDowell has no place here. He acted ignorantly and because he decided to throw intelligence and decorum out the window to prove how cool he was, he hopefully has uttered his last meangingless words (apology statement) as a Brave and lost his job as a result. Good! We don’t want his kind representing this fine organization. And all you cowardly bigots out there responding with your classless statements supportng him need to follow. Good riddance. Leo, where are you?

RTW

April 29th, 2011
6:44 pm

“Are you a homo couple or a threesome?” Reprehensible? Give me a break! I hear much worse crap being spewed on these posts most often. Grow a pair. He was being heckled. He heckled back. You politically correct folks need to get a grip. It wasn’t profanity which I hear at the ballpark all the time. “Wah! He hurt my feelings. He should be fired.” Pathetic!

techengineer

April 29th, 2011
6:46 pm

Every body hates homos.. Who gives a damn what he says about them?

smallmouth6

April 29th, 2011
6:47 pm

RTW: Nothing politically correct about this. It was stupid.

DaveinNEPA

April 29th, 2011
6:49 pm

Whoa, hold on here people. According to this article, there are witnesses who corroborate McDowell’s version of the events and nobody but nobody has posted HIS version.

It’s my belief that Roger was put on “leave” for no other reason but to get him out of the limelight for acouple of days until the team finishes their own investigation.

Right now all we hear is the allegations made by the family and their media ***** lawyer.

Let’s all give him the benefit of a doubt and see where this goes. The guy has been here for 5+ seasons now and to my knowledge he hasn’t been a problem before.

LET’S NOT RUSH TO JUDGEMENT HERE!!!!!!

Harvey's

April 29th, 2011
6:50 pm

Enter your connemts here.

Tired of the Drama

April 29th, 2011
6:50 pm

Good to see all the homosexuals in the audience weighing in on this subject. None of them has probably ever seen a baseball game, couldn’t find Turner Field if given the chance, and wouldn’t know Roger McDowell from Roger Rabbit.

But no, they see the word “homosexual” in a headline and jump on for the ride.

Show some of the tolerance you demand of others. Questioning whether a group of heckling fans are homosexual IN SAN FRANCISCO is simply not offensive to the majority of Americans. Your predictable conniptions, however, are quite offensive.

NickGranite

April 29th, 2011
6:51 pm

McDowell should receive the same treatment as those fans got. Send him back to San Francisco and let them mock him for being a flaming heterosexual.

Sir Lancelot

April 29th, 2011
6:52 pm

I say let Roger and this offended day have a duel and settle their differences. Baseballs at 75 feet. Just wondering if this dad lets his children watch R rated movies with all the language. sex and violence. If so, case dismissed. Another thing how many times have you seen comedians and other actors make comments about gays and then say not that there is anything wrong with it. If they didn’t think anything was wrong with it they wouldn’t think what they said was funny. One more thing= How many times have you heard someone being called a redneck? This is a derogatary racial slur and should not be tolerated by the society that is so eager to defend gays. Just because some dufus comedians use this term doesn’t make it right. That is the same as some low class rappers using the N word and thinking it only pertains to them and no one else can say it. Both are wrong and should have to fight a duel until their tongues fall off. Now attack.

RLM

April 29th, 2011
6:53 pm

This man was not protecting his kids. He should have been talking to them to avoid them noticing anything. Wouldn’t you. My kids would not have known what was going on. Not to excuse the coach if he said these things. He is teaching his kids to go for the money with Gloria Allred. He should not get anything for dragging his kids into something not good for them. I hope he gets to pay top lawyer fees with no reimbursement. Gloria must be hurting for publicity.

dc

April 29th, 2011
6:55 pm

Could it be that McDowell said children dont belong near the bullpen? This would seem a little more realistic, and it may indeed be true given the language I have heard from so called fans abusing opposition pitchers. And from here I wonder whether he said “how much are your seats” rather than how much for your teeth…..how much for your teeth does not really sound like a typical threat, at least not one I have heard before.

TPM

April 29th, 2011
6:56 pm

Kids don’t belong at the ballpark? Say What? That is the most dumbest thing Roger said.

Handsome man

April 29th, 2011
6:57 pm

What is a S. Redouet? Another word for I like men (providing you are a man) and if not you might like Ellen Degeneret. Lighten up. you sound like a dumacrat.

dan

April 29th, 2011
6:58 pm

why did he apologize if he did not say those things? CAN WE SAY GUILTY? Today’s society does not deserve this verbal abuse and sexual harassment. Those kids especially do not need to be treated without respect. And who is he to say that kids do not belong at the ball park? Can the sucker is all I have to say and yes I am gay.

dc

April 29th, 2011
6:58 pm

and I wonder if “pulling a Quinny” might become part of everyday language for cry baby like behaviour…..

Reid in EAV

April 29th, 2011
7:03 pm

To those asking why Roger issued the apology: clearly *something* happened. Pros should not even acknowledge hecklers — that’s where the line is drawn. But it seems pretty clear that Roger is telling a different story about what happened and there are enough witnesses to back him up. I’d bet my tickets for this Sunday that there is no way he said kids don’t belong at the ballpark.

The mad hungarian

April 29th, 2011
7:06 pm

To Jere, let’s not confuse the issue calling for Leo Mazzone’s return. You ever think it is not a coincidence that no MLB team has bothered to hire Leo after he was fired from Baltimore? He has practically campaigned for a job for the past several years.

NoThrow

April 29th, 2011
7:07 pm

daveinnepa what article ?

pdt

April 29th, 2011
7:07 pm

If he said these things he should go. And for Fredi to say McDowell should keep his job, but will probably have to “jump through some hoops” is almost as bad. Jumping through hoops means doing ridiculous, meaningless tasks. McDowell obviously has a deep problem and needs to do more than jump through hoops. I’m pretty disgusted with both of them.

GTBoro

April 29th, 2011
7:08 pm

If McDowell did this, that’s unfortunate and should be addressed. The plaintiff in the case, however, is certainly giving off all the signals of being a shallow publicity-seeker. Retaining a showboat attorney in the name of protecting your kids? Disingenuous. If he’s concerned about his kids, then take them home or take them aside, explain what was offensive and why. But don’t make a media circus out of it for your own hoped-for enrichment.

Bubba

April 29th, 2011
7:09 pm

My guess is that Mr. Ouinn was amused at the heckling the gays were laying on Roger and wanted to join in till Roger reacted.

Elmer Fudd

April 29th, 2011
7:16 pm

Agree with Ed@6:33 and RLM. The dad and Gloria recreated the scene at the press conference that was so offensive to his daughters right in front of them as they snickered.

Good grief!

uga vii

April 29th, 2011
7:17 pm

I think all you idiots out therre who want mcdowell gone are stupid. He made a mistake and he will pay for it, but he will keep hi job.YOU IDIOT MORONS

Elmer Fudd

April 29th, 2011
7:18 pm

dan, your flamboyance is evident.

Brent

April 29th, 2011
7:18 pm

Mr. Quinn, a student/motocross show radio host, according to the L.A.Time and S.F. Chronicle tried to pitch this story to ESPN before he hooked up with Gloria Allred and staged his press conference. If all he says is true, McDowell needs to clean up his act, but not be fired. Methinks Mr. Quinn is a publicity hound, which means he’s not innocent as the driving snow, either. My guess is he sees a chance to “monetize” his “trauma.”

howard

April 29th, 2011
7:18 pm

He should be suspended without pay without question. He also needs to meet with the folks he offended and apologize to them and explain his actions. His job would depend on their response. And, he would get no second chances because his behavior is unacceptable and cannot be tolerated

NoThrow

April 29th, 2011
7:19 pm

Couple of points here !! So called Primo attorney simulates a sex act with a baseball bat in the presence of the 9 year old twins, one who seems to laugh at the press conference !! Also, everyone Google the attorney and see who she has represented

Total Grace

April 29th, 2011
7:19 pm

Enter your comments here

Rick

April 29th, 2011
7:19 pm

My question is, what has been going on with Roger? Maybe he has some personal issues and some stress we don’t know about. Not to offer an excuse, just a thought. I also wonder if perhaps he was under the influence of something (hope not!). I just happen to believe there is something underneath the surface we don’t know about.

Ray

April 29th, 2011
7:19 pm

Go to Breitbarttv.com and watch the village idiot and his lawyer simulate anal sex with a baseball bat with his children in the room and watching the performance.

Say Goodbye Roger!

April 29th, 2011
7:21 pm

Sorry folks this guy has to go, first Rocker who was off his rocker then this, the Braves apparently have a bigger problem somewhere that is just now coming to the surface. When this guy puts on his Braves jersey he becomes a public figure and responsible for what he says. The Braves fire him Gloria Allred’s concerns about the Braves are addressed and then she does whatever she wants with Roger. It’s time for the Braves to step up and start acting as professionals and not idiots!

Coffee Lover

April 29th, 2011
7:21 pm

Gonzalez needs to make some apologies, too.

“In my opinion it shouldn’t,” Gonzalez said. “I’m sure there’s going to be some hoops that he’s going to have to go through and some apologizing, which he should have to go through, but for a person to lose their job, I wouldn’t think so and I hope it doesn’t.”

ChrisfromSacramento, Ca

April 29th, 2011
7:21 pm

OK i MAY BE WRONG BUT..

I was at the game 10 feet from Roger in the bullpen watching Jair throw his bullpen. I never heard Roger say what is being reported. It was really loud and the Giants fans were brutal and drunk hippies making themselves look like fools.

I NEVER , NEVER SAW ROGER WALK TOWARDS ANYONE WITH A FUNGO AND SAY ANYTHING ABOUT TEETH OR THREATEN ANYONE.

I WAS THERE FOR ALMOST 50 MINUTES WATCHIGN THE BULLPEN. MY SEATS WERE NEXT TO THE BULLPEN FRONT ROW. ROGER EVEN GAVE A YOUNG BOY A BALL.

I NEVER SAW ANYTHING. I WAS THERE.

kirkinga

April 29th, 2011
7:22 pm

If he did not do what has been alleged, and other witnesses back him up, then he should be coaching today. Shame on the Braves for leaving him dangling as it sends the wrong message.

Even more confusing is why Fredi would say he hopes McDowell keeps his job if he did nothing wrong?

Assuming he returns to the team, he and the team are likely to see increased heckling by some people trying to get a rise out of somebody.

Innocent till Proven Guilty

April 29th, 2011
7:30 pm

I Googled Remember Amber Frey ? Scott Peterson’s mistress ? Model Kelly Fisher for allegedly breaking off their relationship to begin his relationship with Princess Di, dropped shortly after the fatal wreck , Sued the Boy Scouts for not allowing a female in etc !!!

Jeff

April 29th, 2011
7:31 pm

FIRE HIS ASS, no one should judge anyone. God knows, he will do so in the end. If all this god stuff is true there are a lot of gay people who just landed on this planet by accident to invade all you homophobes. Being straight I have many gay friends, two daddy parents as friends. Whom have they harmed? They bible addresses this in Sodom and Gomorrah. The only sin was unkindness because LOT let the travelers in. Not a damn thing to do with being gay. JEEEEEEEEEZ

ChrisfromSacramento, Ca

April 29th, 2011
7:33 pm

Jeff people are judged everyday. Get over it.

Van Kalen

April 29th, 2011
7:34 pm

While I obviously look down upon Rogers actions, I feel he is getting punished way more severely than any player would had they done the same thing. Since Roger is easily replaceable, they have no problem with letting him go. Why was Kobe not facing a leave after his gay slur?

Roger was not putting anyone’s life at risk while Lowe’s speed racing, drunk driving fiasco WAS an endangerment to the public and greatly overlooked. McDowell should of realized that he is expected to act differently being in a professional setting, but I still find it unfair to see him get so severely punished when millions of gay slurs go unnoticed each day and kobe gets a slap on the wrist

Neil

April 29th, 2011
7:35 pm

IF…he said those things, then he’s pretty stupid and should have known better. What isn’t hard to believe is that bloodsucker Gloria Allred is getting her ugly mug in front of a camera. She lives for this kind of thing. She’s the queen of political correctness.

anthony

April 29th, 2011
7:36 pm

The waitress at the Waffle House was rude to me…What’s Gloria Allred number

Jeff

April 29th, 2011
7:37 pm

Chris Sacramento you missed the point totally. As my dad would say your ignorance is showing.

Boca Baby

April 29th, 2011
7:41 pm

Thank God McDowell didn’t call them “A bundh of Christians.” That would have been the most reprehensible thing he could have called them in SF.

BornADawg

April 29th, 2011
7:51 pm

@NickP…Aren’t you being a little hypocritical there calling someone a moron.when you said ‘This is not the same old USA where anyone different can be bashed and embarassed because you see them as different.” I guess that applies only until someone doesn’t agree with your politically correct point of view then it’s open season on them to call them whatever you like..

jt

April 29th, 2011
7:57 pm

In my opinion they are all a bunch of scum bags. McDowell for saying and doing that. The Dad for letting Gloria Allred show that thing with a bat, and Gloria Allred for being the bottom feeding, scum sucking media wh**e she is.

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
8:04 pm

i’m offended by gloria allred simulating sex with a ballbat and a man. who can i get to represent me at my news conference? didn’t they commit child endangerment? shouldn’t they have changed ends on the bat? they clearly didn’t know what they were doing.

jt

April 29th, 2011
8:10 pm

Oh yeah I meant to say that thing with the bat in front of his kids. Isn’t there a law against that???

bill maier

April 29th, 2011
8:10 pm

kids at the game and the guys kids if your watching or listening to the game please cover your ears hudson just said teh f word when he missed the bunt

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
8:14 pm

that thing with the bat? aren’t there two bats in the video?

cmac22

April 29th, 2011
8:16 pm

Saying kids don’t belong at a baseball game? Threatening a Father in front of his kids? And the piece of crap mcdowell dosn’t have the guts to speak his apology? Fire the a-hole!

jt

April 29th, 2011
8:17 pm

Let me get this correct! It is ok for Gloria Allredy (to file any lawsuit anywhere for anything) to do this with the Bat in front of this guys kids, but not for McDowell?????????

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
8:22 pm

right jt. this seems worse. the father should have control over this situation.

Murf4HOF

April 29th, 2011
8:23 pm

lifetime Atlanta sports fan,but have to say many Atlantasports fans are as dumb as a rock… kneejerk reactionaries…… and fair weather fans. LOOK we can’t win every game….players are not perfect, neither are coaches……get a lifw haters

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
8:24 pm

maybe the father would have been more of a parent if he had the girls wear earmuffs and cover their eyes throughout the press conference

UGASlobberknocker

April 29th, 2011
8:26 pm

@cmac22. You are exactly right. Ive taken my kids to planty of games..if he had of pulled that crap on me in front of my kids I would have threatened HIM. and if he was dumb enough to come over, he would have been sorry. Fire his butt.

Deb

April 29th, 2011
8:29 pm

It is amazing to me that so many posters on here automatically assume the accuser is telling the entire truth. You are going to take somebody’s word that immediately hired a leech like Allred and make assumptions? Obviously McDowell said something, but it may not be all that this person accused him of. I don’t think a person should lose their job, and basically entire career, over one mistake without at least a chance to learn from it and move on. The NFL welcomed the felon Vick back with open arms, yet McDowell can’t make one mistake (that didn’t involve killing a living creature, I might add) without folks calling for his head immediately…very sad…

Bravefaninok

April 29th, 2011
8:29 pm

“We have Roger’s side of the story and we also have some witnesses that have corroborated what Roger has told us,” Wren said. “Once we have completed that process we’ll be a little more forthcoming with the facts.

Wait till we get the rest of the story before we string anybody up…….Come on folks if rodger did all he is being accused of somebody would already have it on you-tube!

UGASlobberknocker

April 29th, 2011
8:29 pm

@rugburn. You are wrong. There are plenty of haters on this and other blogs, but hating has nothing to do with this. My outrage comes from the parental standpoint. I wonder if his kids ever went to the ballpark? Im guessing yes..so where does he get off saying that?

At the very least he should pay a heavy fine, 50k at least, and be suspended without pay for at least 15 games. make it hurt.

Bill in VA

April 29th, 2011
8:30 pm

That’s one way not to have to throw to third!!

joedub

April 29th, 2011
8:35 pm

You guys suck. You’re ready to throw this guy under the bus and you haven’t even heard the whole story yet.

NomanNowonder

April 29th, 2011
8:37 pm

I say mcdowell should be fired immediately. Trash like this shouldn’t be allowed on a ball field, he owes everyone apologies and he’s really not a very good pitching coach. Get rid of him.

dagnabit

April 29th, 2011
8:41 pm

Fire McDowell now.

Boca Baby

April 29th, 2011
8:43 pm

For all you virgin ears out there, you must not have been courtside at an NBA game. Whatever you do don’t take your kids down there.

SM

April 29th, 2011
8:44 pm

I understand that McDowell’s comments were inappropriate, but I truly feel he should not lose his job over it….a suspension, fine or even both….but not his job. I guarantee you, any person who has commented on this article, has at some point in their life, said the wrong thing at the wrong time to someone and have regretted it….I for one am one of those individuals. Lets move one already.

Boca Baby

April 29th, 2011
8:44 pm

dagnabit: You must be a closeted Phillies fan.

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
8:50 pm

i’m not hating. i just said that if the father is so offended by the acts of roger being seen by his girls, he should not have been subjecting his girls to the same acts again being performed by their dad and a strange woman in a public forum. no hate, just a thought.

jt

April 29th, 2011
8:53 pm

Maybe Hudson should be a bullpen pitcher good for 3 or 4 innings

joedub

April 29th, 2011
8:56 pm

jt maybe you should watch more baseball before making retarded comments.

jt

April 29th, 2011
8:58 pm

Retarded ?? Retarded? I got your retarded!!

Got that one from McDowell

gresham brown

April 29th, 2011
8:59 pm

But what about the black people?

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
9:03 pm

roger allegedly acted alone. the depiction in the press conference is clearly a travesty. if roger did all that he is accused of, he is wrong. i wasn’t there so i don’t know. i did however see the press conference, and that was very wrong.

Max

April 29th, 2011
9:04 pm

Joe Simpson read the Braves’ release about Roger McDowell being placed on administrative leave and then closed with he hopes Roger is back with the team soon. Between him and Gonzalez, it sounds like a bunch of neanderthal jocks reflexively circling the wagons around one of their own. Then add that Derek Lowe has apologized only for the distraction
of his DUI arrest, but not for actually getting arrested for racing on a city street after drinking, and well I’m thinking there are a lot better ways I can spend my money this summer than at Turner Field. This is a bunch of overpaid prima donnas.

joedub

April 29th, 2011
9:05 pm

watch it jt. i’m calling a damn lawyer. she’s going to demonstrate retarded bat sex in a press conference. I won’t let her say “ass” though. THAT would be going too far.

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
9:09 pm

funny joe dub.

Richard

April 29th, 2011
9:10 pm

From the article it seems Gonzalez is ready to sweep all this under the carpet. I don’t blame him in some ways but I wonder what his reaction would have been if it were anti-Hispanic slurs being voiced?

jt

April 29th, 2011
9:12 pm

Richard ; They would have used a freshly picked cucumber rather than a bat>

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
9:14 pm

for the pc it’s darn lawyer and challenged bat fornication

joedub

April 29th, 2011
9:15 pm

rugburn, bring your kids dude. one can hold the bat, while the other one simulates a butt hole.

Dhaus

April 29th, 2011
9:17 pm

Fire the Bum just because he is the Major League pitching coach should not save his job. Yes athletes and staff cus, but you do not do that to a FAMILY!!!!!!!

Dhaus

April 29th, 2011
9:19 pm

Typical Atlanta Braves good old boys situation, just like everybody else they turn there back because its a coach typical Jose Martinez CRAP!

jt

April 29th, 2011
9:20 pm

Dhaus: Why not Dad let Gloria do that to his family

Humpback Liner

April 29th, 2011
9:26 pm

Hate it for McDowell, he’s a nice guy as for the rest of the da braves I wouldn’t care if they locked’em all up with the announcers and threw away the key

baseballfan

April 29th, 2011
9:29 pm

The Braves do not need any staff who get into arguments with fans–such immaturity belongs with the Tea Party maybe but not with the Braves leadership team. Get rid of him!!!

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
9:32 pm

joedub, why jump me? i was on your side……so ….as far as my kids simulating an a-hole, how could they, they’ve never met you.

jt

April 29th, 2011
9:36 pm

Hey baseballfan

Fear the TEA PARTY

They are coming for you!!

Tom Persuschevesky

April 29th, 2011
9:37 pm

I don’t know anything about what went on out there except what’s been said in the papers. However, years ago when I lived in NYC, Mcdowell acted like an idiot in the dugout at Shea all the time. They finally gave showed him the door. He’s been w/ the Braves for 6 years now; their pitching is mediocre at best. They could hire another coach for way less, do just as well or better and not have to deal with this nonsense.

Scooby Snax

April 29th, 2011
9:39 pm

I can’t believe I’m defending an ex-Met or any part of the Braves organization, but I don’t know what more people want from McDowell? He had a lapse in judgment and apologized for it, is he supposed to be shunned forever for making a mistake? I hate this PC society we live in where the minority rules the majority and nobody can get their wittle feelings hurt. Ugh, sac up and move on…

Roger's fine

April 29th, 2011
9:40 pm

Just give him a fine and a talking to. No big deal. Bobby Cox had rape allegations. Chipper Jones was knocking up Hooters broads. It’s no big deal. If they fire Roger McDowell, it will be one of the most pathetic things this franchise has ever done……right up there with Bob Horner.

jt

April 29th, 2011
9:41 pm

What did Horner do??

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
9:42 pm

agreed scooby, i would actually like to hear from the three guys he had the original issue with

Bob Horner?

April 29th, 2011
9:44 pm

Super Fat DL Bum.

HL

April 29th, 2011
9:45 pm

Family Day at the Braves should be fun. Gloria Allred is a grifter but that doesn’t excuse inappropriate comments. McDowell apologized and feels bad so we have to assume he said something.
BTW.. The Yankees are giving 500,000 to tornado victims. Although I hate the Yankees, it is a classy move and I’d love to see the Brave’s do the same thing.

joedub

April 29th, 2011
9:45 pm

rugburn, my bad dude, you misunderstood. i was still riffing on the press conference video. i don’t really want your kids to simulate retarded bat sex. that would make me as bad as Quinn.

KBB

April 29th, 2011
9:48 pm

when something like this happens in college football, NFL or NBA the comments are telling. Its is usually stuff like “see this is why im growing apart from the sport” “oh they are thugs” “oh the end of days are here” etc etc………when some good ole boy in MLB does this its “hey this country is soft!” “whatever happened to free speech!” “get thicker skin” The comments overlook drug abuse, wife beating (cough…bobby cox), children out of wedlock (cough…..chipper), and other equally bad behavior. Why does MLB get a pass? It has the highest number of bad people and douchebags per capita of all the major sports!

Big James

April 29th, 2011
9:49 pm

Maybe he said them and maybe he didn’t, I don’t know, however I do know that I have sat near the bullpen before and what he allegedly said is nothing and I mean NOTHING compared to what is yelled at the opposing teams players. This was at Atlanta Fulton Co stadium not in Philly or Chicago!!!!! If he did say those things I really don’t blame him.

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
9:50 pm

i remember going to a game years ago,sitting by the dodgers bullpen and ragging on steve yeager throughout the whole game. after the game he grinned and waved and said “see ya tomorrow night”. good times and no pc involved.

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
9:53 pm

joedub, i take it back. it was as lame as “i know you are but what am i?” anyway. it’s all good. back to trash. in the video, which one are we calling the retarded bat?

Big James

April 29th, 2011
9:54 pm

Reality Bites

April 29th, 2011
9:54 pm

Whats the world coming to when u cant call out someone for being a walking vilation of the laws of nature? Good thing cops dont enforce those laws……..

guy

April 29th, 2011
10:00 pm

what’s the big deal? he’s a pitching coach, not a kindergarten teacher

guy

April 29th, 2011
10:02 pm

all the gays trying to pile on here. lol
get it?

joedub

April 29th, 2011
10:02 pm

gloria allred’s gotta be the retarded bat. dude’s wife is a creeper though, maybe she’s the retarded bat

Reality Bites

April 29th, 2011
10:03 pm

Oh….btw how many fines did Maddogg get on the mound when he was here?
PC is the ruination of this country. If u want to be something, but dont want to be called what you are….then u r the one needing help, not the namecaller.

joedub

April 29th, 2011
10:07 pm

man, i love sea bass

Scott 35

April 29th, 2011
10:08 pm

Not defending what is alleged to have happened in SF, I did the kid’s parade with my seven and nine year old daughters a few weeks ago. McDowell, McCann, Lowe and Eddie Perez were warming up in right field about 20 feet from where we were walking. McDowell was waving at the kids and really seemed to be enjoying the interaction. All of what is alleged is disturbing, but because of what I saw I was most intrigued by the comment about kids at the ballpark because he really seemed to appreciate the kids being there that day.

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
10:10 pm

you know? watching the video i don’t think i even noticed his wife. gloria was the centerpiece and the father just didn’t look like he wanted to be there

rugburn

April 29th, 2011
10:12 pm

someone update me on the game. we survived the tornadoes here in se tenn but sadly our cable didn’t.

Ron Hyatt

April 29th, 2011
10:22 pm

Oh my goodness, I’m offended. Let me sashay on over there and bop you with my magic wand full of pixie dust.

Stephen

April 29th, 2011
10:23 pm

i was at all 3 of the braves vs giants games, i got to every game atleast 3 hours before the gates to enter the park were opend, Met roger mcdowell outside of the stadium a real cool guy, and inside he was signing for everybody. I dont really understand how Quinn can say for Mcdowell to watch his language, when quinn was sitting in the worst part of the stadium where the roughest crowd is. There were 2 fights in the left field bleachers on saturday, and the crowd shouting ” whats the matter with heyward…. He’s a bum!!” Giant fans were also Harrasing David Ross, Johnny Venters, and Kraig Kimbrle.They were using a large amount of vulgar language. but i guess Quinn and his twin daughters diddnt see the 2 fights, or hear the crowd, everybody that has been to a baseball game knows that the bleachers is the roughest crowd in the stadium! So get off rogers back man and get a real job, instead of trying to get rich over night

Reality Bites

April 29th, 2011
10:24 pm

Gloria Allred has a pee pee. She was one of the original cast of Rocky Horror Picture Show.

USAFCCF

April 29th, 2011
10:25 pm

Hiring Gloria (publicity hound) Allred is a big red flag. Somebody is looking for $$ and attention

Ted

April 29th, 2011
10:42 pm

It’s despicable behavior on McDowell’s part. Oh, and by the way Fredi, no one cares what you think about this. You’d defend him no matter what.

Elmer Fudd

April 29th, 2011
10:45 pm

Reality Bites…excellent former comment; the last one…not so much.

Maddog always shouted expletives for those who sat close to home plate. It is part of sports including baseball.

Quit being so PC. The likes of Gloria Allred and her legal buddies are what has this country in a mess.

As far as Lowe…no it wasn’t right and that’s why there is a law against it. He will be punished by the law, but it is not the Braves place to dole out his sentence. Baseball players and coaches are people just like everyone else. They are a microcosm and include all that is good and all the warts of the rest of society. If you are upset that they make outrageous salaries, fine. But don’t think they should be subjected to harsher penalties than the rest of society when they err.

Smiling Jack

April 29th, 2011
10:49 pm

Jeff, your Dad, if he read this blog, would certainly declare it to be the most ignorance concentrated in one place that he has ever seen. I’m nearly 75 years old and declare I’ve never seen so much ignorance. For the most part the opinions expressed here are not helpful, but rather hateful. We all ought to let the Braves, major league baseball and the legal system handle their affairs. They will have the advantage of facts and make judgements. We don’t know anything particularly because we where not there and have no excess to the parties involved. Why over react? Why make such judgements from our vantage point? None of us are personally affected Why would anyone post such opinions?

Smiling Jack

April 29th, 2011
10:51 pm

Well, it looks like the Braves will lose to the Cards tonight. They are down 2 runs and coming to bat. Hard to lose this one, but there is always tomorrow! Go Braves!

Johnny Beach

April 29th, 2011
10:53 pm

Enough of this…………These fans are good at baiting the players and coaches……Leave McDowell alone……………..He has caught hell enough about this trivial nonsense.

LouDawg

April 29th, 2011
11:01 pm

This is a sad and unfortunate story. How does a guy with 20 plus year experience in the Majors put himself in this situation to begin with? It really blows my mind. You wonder if McDowell was somehow kidding or thought he was kidding w/ the fans. It sounds like some other fans are corroborating with the the fan’s story. I really think the Braves should fire McDowell. In a job like such as this you are held to a higher standard. You cannot engage in any type of confrontation with fans – PERIOD. Then on top of this the comments he made were derogatory towards children and a minority group. It’s not too much unlike the Damon Evans saga. It pained Bulldog nation for him to be fired, but it was such an awful PR nightmare for the school we had no choice.

Bill Mac

April 29th, 2011
11:11 pm

If and only if it is determined that the statements are true then an appropriate punishment should be addressed, However I agree with a number of other responses in that by hiring the nutcase Alred the Fan bringing the complaint has lost a lot of credibility with me and I am sure a numbver of others.
Oh by the way, where are the three “men” to which the comments where directed?

tom

April 29th, 2011
11:15 pm

nick p — your the idiot—– not for one minute do i believe things happened the way this dad said they happened— who goes an gets an attorney when you hear bad words—- and who parades their kids like this— someone who has other motives– just stifle yourself nick p–= the color yellow probably make s you sad too

DeafGary

April 29th, 2011
11:25 pm

The last time I checked, Freedom of Speech was still protected, under the Constitution of the United States of America.
Of course, for the last 35 or so years, that has been interpreted to say You’re free to denigrate God and His Kingdom, but not to say anything about the sin in the world!!
I can remember as far back as 1978, when it was illegal to speak of Jesus Christ inside any building that wasn’t a church – BUT, nobody said a word, when people would take the Holy Name of the Risen Lord in vain, in those same buildings.

Personally, I am sick and tired of this double standard. For a person to say something is his right — in the America I know. For Roger McDowell to vent by making disparaging statements about homosexuals is also protected under the Constitution of the United States (at least he one I believ in).
So, get off the man’s case. If the queers don’t like it, THEY are only upset becausse they know THEY are dong something wrong!!

Dark Times

April 29th, 2011
11:27 pm

What a sad joke this country has become. Special interest groups have all the rights and set the rules. Obviously if you don’t bow down to them you may be fired from your job. If McDowell were gay and made a derogatory comment to a fan about being straight would anybody be talking about it? Would McDowell be sitting at home wondering if he was going to be fired? What happened to Koby Bryant for his “gay slur” recently? A fine and that is it. If McDowell were black that moron lawyer would have never taken the case and this would have been one day news. White straight males in this country are nothing more than punching bags and will continue to be so until/unless we start punching back.

Hoss10

April 29th, 2011
11:40 pm

I have read some of these comments on this blog and I’m a little embarrassed to be a Braves fan right now! There are some idiots on here! It seems quite obvious to me that this father of the 2 girls is trying to make a payday out of this whole ordeal. Why do some of you people believe every freakin thing this guy has claimed happened and was said? He’s hired a scummy “celebrity lawyer” to make money and get attention, yet claims he wants his daughters protected…right!

And all these people thinking McDowell will be/should be fired are dead wrong. Oh and bring back Leo…are you kidding me? He is retired and has been a long while and the Braves wouldn’t be interested in bringing him back. His personality would be too strong for a new manager, with Bobby it was manageable. He didn’t do too well in Baltimore either, which many people here obviously don’t remember! Shutup already, some of you are just plain dumb!!!!!!!

Dark Times

April 29th, 2011
11:40 pm

Would gays, blacks, hispanics, asians, and all sub-groups submit a list to us dumb straight white folks as to what we can say, where we can say it, and in what tone we may say it in going forward. Since we have to work for a living, we really need to keep our jobs and continue paying taxes for everyone else to tell us what, where and how to conduct ourselves.

Chris

April 29th, 2011
11:41 pm

‘Jump through hoops”? Gonzales seems to think this is just a little matter that needs to be pushed under the rug. He doesn’t sound like much of a winner himself. I don’t give him very long in that position with all the junk that is going on with the Braves.

Dark Times

April 29th, 2011
11:47 pm

One more comment and I will give the board back to the homos, I have read some comments about folks not going to another Braves game if they don’t fire McDowell. Let me say that I do actually go to several Braves games a year and always have. However, if McDowell should be fired, I will NEVER go to another Braves game. I am sick of seeing management give in to special interest because of homo threats.

DollarDawg43

April 29th, 2011
11:49 pm

McDowell probably did let his emotions get the best of him and said things he now regrets but we’ve all done that. How many of us lost our jobs because of it? How many of us have had to undergo sensitivity training because of it? I’m guessing none of us posting here.

He owes the fans an apology and thats it. He lost his temper and said hurtful things and needs to right his own wrong. That is the same standard any of us would be held to. If not, we would all be unemployed and spending all of our time in seminars if every display of anger and/or regrettable comments resulted in the loss of a job or the requirement to attend sensitivity training.

The involvement of Gloria Allred has to make anyone with a brain suspicious and the repetitive re-enactment of the sex act with the bat REPEATEDLY in front of the very children the father supposedly wants to protect from this speaks volumes.

I see another Punk Fan

April 30th, 2011
12:06 am

Only a gay fan would want Roger fired. All these idiots commenting like Roger is supposed to be a Saint. I can only imagine what the punk fans up in the stands were screaming out Funny how some fans love to verbally abuse people while they hide in the stands.

Mike

April 30th, 2011
12:36 am

Wren should be fired for putting him on administrative leave. The fact Allred is involved I say give him the bats back and let him finish the job. Grow a spine Wren and protect him.

what me worry

April 30th, 2011
12:49 am

Free speech is bad. Good ole fashion PINKO COMMUNISM. Guess baseball players should be wearing dresses. If Roger was a cop in SF and they were pointing a gun at him,he couldn’t fire until they shot at him first.

Brava

April 30th, 2011
1:06 am

Blah, blah, blah…

Tip Of The Cap

April 30th, 2011
1:49 am

McDowell is our Michael Richards aka Kramer. What a jerk.

Tip Of The Cap

April 30th, 2011
1:52 am

what me worry – Serious? He cursed in front of kids and said they had no right being at a ball park. Then threatened people with a bat. Really? He is supposed to be professional and deal with hecklers. Not scare kids to the point of never wanting to see another game. If kids were not involved it would be different but he messed up. Just saying.

tempe Zac

April 30th, 2011
2:50 am

I remember seeing Randy Johnson strike out like twelve braves as a kid. I got to hear nine of them say the f-word.

tempe Zac

April 30th, 2011
2:56 am

They don’t belong there, if you never want your kid to hear swearing.

Carpetbagger

April 30th, 2011
3:53 am

If McDowell did say these things… I’m wondering what he says to the pitchers on the mound. Scary!

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stew

April 30th, 2011
7:55 am

This is just a ploy to try to extol money in a lawsuit. This guy is only in it for the money and it’s a shame that this guy is gonna get 10-20 years of my salary just because McDowell cursed at this guy or made anti gay remarks to him. I hate the way money gets tossed around so frivolously when there are so many people out of work and underwater with there mortgages. It amazes me how people continue to go to sports events and fork up to $300 for a crappy seat including maybe a hot dog and a beer. You can’t live the high life with nothing backing you up. The problem I have with A-Rod’s contract and the Yankees in general is just the pie in the sky mentality that pervades our society. “Money for nuthin and chicks for free.”

mike Funkhouser

April 30th, 2011
8:37 am

this whole thing seems a little weird! maybe roger did go over board with his comments but who hires a lawyer for that? that guy is hiding behind his lawyer! I will say i was at turner field for the braves & marlins a few weeks ago & was sitting on row 1 down the line between first base & right field and both nights I was there roger spoke very nice to me & he even came over and gave the kid next to me a baseball! It does not seem like the act of a guy who would say something like what that dummy in san fran is saying!

Chad

April 30th, 2011
8:39 am

I don’t know what is worse. The behavior of the coach or the media play and re-inactment with the husband, attorney, wife, et-al.

Sensitivity training – are you serious. This is a grown man coaching baseball pitchers. Is he wrong? Yes, of course he is, but the other side is making a mockery out of a bad incident.

To the homosexual men that were offended…Be a man, move on. To the children…learn how not to be…

chuck

April 30th, 2011
8:57 am

These are very “serious” charges. I suggest a 5 dollar fine and get back to baseball.

NJ Choppin

April 30th, 2011
9:08 am

Funny how no one has mentioned the heckling that started the whole thing. I mean, we hear all the terrible things Mcdowel said, but those three fans heckling him? I bet they just wanted an autograph. And I bet that guy was just being a good dad.

It’s a shame that evil man from the opposing team, no less, would say such hateful things unprovoked. Completely believable story, that this man would just calmly ask Roger, very politely, to not swear in front of kids; that Mcdowel’s response would be to just fly off the handle.

Oh, that all above was satire, if you didn’t pick up on it. I’m certainly not condoning Mcdowel’s actions. But to honestly believe this fan’s story, well, I’m sorry. I’m not buying it. It is obviously a publicity stunt; the press conference with his children says it all.

I guess this guy just got caught up trying to protect his children. So much so that he is exploiting them mercilessly.

If you have ever been to a sporting event, you know some of the most foul things you hear come from the STANDS, you know, fans sitting right next to you. It doesn’t make Roger right, but come on now. Just because he is in the spotlight, he has to be the ONLY one accountable? What about those heckling him? They get a pass because they paid admission?? And I bet they weren’t hurling expletives around either, but amazingly (the hometown fans) this “father of the year” was only offended by Mcdowel’s comments?

Again, not buying it. This father is a loser, and he is doing more harm to his children by not letting this go. He is basically telling them that if you get offended; or your feelings get hurt, you can go to the police (and maybe make some extra cash, too). Especially if you have children to tow around as “victims”. Make sure you coach the kids to look as sad and hurt as possible in the photo op. Good one. Teach them lying, too.

oldmaninatlanta

April 30th, 2011
9:25 am

I absolutely don’t care what was said to Mcdowell.He should have been a man and walked away.My grandmother oncw told me that when you get mad and start screaming things that the “REAL” inner person comes out and I do beleive that.That being said,I dont want to hear ….oh..he’s not that type of guy.BULL…he just showed his true colors.

NJ Choppin

April 30th, 2011
9:30 am

The point people, is I doubt VERY much that Mcdowel said that “kids don’t belong at the park”. I find it very hard to believe that Mcdowel was going to “bash this guy’s teeth in” in front of this children. You know the saying, if it sounds too good to be true, it is? Well, if it sounds so completely ridiculous, then it probably is.

Again, I’m sure Roger said things he shouldn’t have. But, let me ask you guys: Have you ever said something you didn’t believe? Or say something out of anger/frustration–or even say an inappropriate joke?? If you NEVER have, then be the first to cast a stone Roger’s way.

But remember that these athletes, coaches, etc. (in any sport) are humans. We have to stop treating them like they are more than human because they make a lot of money. We have to stop elevating these guys into being role models; just because it is easier than being role model’s ourselves.

Personally, I find what D Lowe did MUCH MUCH more reprehensible. If someone has to lose their job, it should be Lowe. Lots of innocent people DIE every year because of drunk drivers such as him. And if convicted, he should be suspended the rest of the season (or longer if possible).

I would lose my job if I was arrested for a DUI. And I make about 14.9 million dollars LESS a year than him. But, hey, Roger should be fired; right?

NJ Choppin

April 30th, 2011
9:33 am

So, old man, it only took 30 years or so for mcdowel to “show his true colors”, eh? Couldnt have possibly been a foot in the mouth thing, right? Because I bet you have NEVER said anything you wish you could take back, right? So I guess because Mcdowel is a MLB pitching coach, then there is no excuse and he should lose his job for that? Wow, you are one righteous person, old man.

NJ Choppin

April 30th, 2011
9:40 am

old man, you think that this is the first time mcdowel’s been heckled? The guy played in NY AND Philly for all those years. Probably 2 of the roughest places to play. He also has an OPENLY HOMOSEXUAL (Cubs fan) writing letters on Roger’s behalf. How come this is the first time we are hearing how bad Mcdowel is? Probably because this father of the year is blowing this thing WAY out of proportion (and most likely flat out lying).

Reverie

April 30th, 2011
9:56 am

For the people calling for Rogers head on a platter, I would think you would have a stronger case if the offended fans had simply called the Braves and asked for an apology. The moment they chose to make this a matter for the press is the moment they crossed the line from righteously offended to whining publicity monger. Using Gloria Allred as their mouthpiece shows that all they are after is fame and fortune. This assumes that Roger even said all those things.

Red Wolf

April 30th, 2011
9:56 am

The totality of his repugnant remarks and irrational behavior leave the organization little choice but to dismiss him. This behavior cannot be tolerated, certainly not by the Atlanta Braves. A professional should not react to heckling in this manner, particularly someone who played in NYC for the Mets.

NJ Choppin

April 30th, 2011
10:19 am

reverie, that is exactly my point. That I don’t believe for a second Roger said those things. And what he did say, what was the context? It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if those 3 fans and Roger were messing around having fun. Roger IS KNOWN for having fun with the crowd. He may have said those things screwing around.

All of it is moot though, because I wasn’t there. Didn’t get the context, hear what was said or HOW it was said. And neither were ANY OF YOU PEOPLE calling for his head. So, we all know what the father of the year is accusing, but not much else.

And for those who say it doesn’t matter HOW something is said- you are wrong. It does matter. Because things can be said facetiously, etc. Not everything is black and white. Oh, and NOT ONE OF US WAS THERE. Did I mention that already?

It is easy to see the comments in print (if those comments were in deed ACTUALLY MADE) and jump on the bandwagon to call for his dismissal.

But, again, there are quite the righteous group here on this blog. People who I bet have NEVER said anything inappropriate. Never have made an ass of themselves. Never have put their foot in their mouth. I guess though that is what makes those in the stands different. If I am in the stands, calling a player something regrettable, then hey that’s expected. But if that player turns around gives it back, well then he is repugnant and irrational. Because he isn’t human, like me. Why? Because he makes more money and is in the public’s eye.

How is that thinking rational? It isn’t. The basis is that players/coaches can’t make a mistake or say something stupid. But fans at the games? Well, we can’t expect anything more from those slobs. Is that it?

muddy waters

April 30th, 2011
11:41 am

Chopin, the deal is this: When McDowell is wearing a MLB uniform in a MLB park and the park is full of fans who paid a lot of dough to park, enter, eat, etc., McDowell is not allowed — by his employers — to make obscene gestures at said fans, threaten said fans (if he did), etc.

Dumb stuff that you CAN do on your own dime, you CAN NOT do as a representative of your employers and their professional organization.

What’s hard to understand about this?

LTBF

April 30th, 2011
12:05 pm

Good morning all
Another loss, this team cannot seem to hold a lead in a close game. It is very upsetting that they cannot get above .500 ball. 13-13 record after finishing a tough road trip and playing good ball at the end of it, then they come home with a big crowd at the Ted and they disapoint once again.

klaus

April 30th, 2011
12:20 pm

Well said Muddy Waters. That is the case in a nutshell and why Roger is in very hot water. He was on the clock representing not only the Braves (a very conservative & PR conscious team) but also the MLB league.

Finely he is part of team leadership not a player. Older mgrs don’t get as much leash in these situations. Some 28-30yo rich star ball player can shoot off his mouth and get fined b/c he is hard to replace (if good).

A pitching coach that embarrasses a team won’t get the same leash Ozzie G in Chicago notwithstanding

He insulted a demographic versus tossing a ball at a drunk fan and he did it in front of a family with two little girls in tow. PR nightmare for Selig and MLB.

If he doesn’t get fired it will be b/c the guy lied his butt off and gets caught.

Right now Roger McDowell fans better hope the guy stretched the truth b/c if he didn’t Roger is gone.

Old School

April 30th, 2011
12:48 pm

If it is proven what he said to the young kids, he has given up his right to be on the field as a professional representative of the Atlanta Braves. Fire him and fire him immediately! He hasn’t done much with the pitching crew anyway – won’t be much of a loss.

GiantsFansSuckManParts

April 30th, 2011
1:12 pm

The problem is Gloria Allred. Having her involved in this case doe not bode well for McDowell because that b@tch is determined to win every case put before her even if it’s totally retarded like this one. I just want to meet the dude McDowell said this too and tell him to STFU and deal with it. Cursing and threats are everywhere in sports no matter which one you are at. Hell in Europe obscene gestures are traded between fans and players during Soccer matches. America is way too up tight about what we say and what we do. I stand behind Roger and would have done they exact same thing because more than likely those people who are harassing were interfering with Rodger’s ability to do his job which is what he gets paid to do…..right?

ph

April 30th, 2011
2:48 pm

to everyone that says McDowell should go because the Braves are a classy organization, etc. Remember, our prized manager Bobby Cox got in some trouble with the law for beating his wife in the mid 90s

Giants 2010 Champs!

May 1st, 2011
6:00 am

The story that Quinn is claiming is not being backed by others that were in the stands. They claim Quinn was instigating the situation, and they never saw any kind of threat by McDowell. Though they did verify McDowell’s initial comments to the 3 hecklers…. they described it as a back and forth and everyone in the section was laughing, including the original hecklers. This was during batting practice, and McDowell was hitting fly balls from CF to players standing in RF. It was very relaxed… there was some back and forth going on with the fans… McDowell clearly wasn’t thinking about the repercussions of his “juvenile” comments. But everyone had moved on, then Mr. Quinn got involved and proceeded to make it an ugly situation. Demanding to know what McDowell meant by his sexually loaded comments and actions. He asked McDowell to repeat the comments because his Daughters did not understand them He said McDowell should not talk like that with kids around. (which he is correct… in fact the comments should not be made no matter who is around). McDowell wondered why Quinn didn’t speak up when the hecklers were talking smack. He didn’t say “kids should not be at freaking baseball games”, clearly a statement that Allred and Quinn are using to stir up controversy. (How dare McDowelll say children do no belong at our AMERICAN PASTIME!)

McDowell’s comments were juvenile… but sadly it is something guys do. Guys bust other guys balls all the time with gay references. It’s not right, and it’s incredibly stupid to do it in a public forum…. but it’s very common in male dominated fields, or with groups of guy friends. It’s really not done out of hate… it’s like saying a guy acts like a chick. But I understand that inherently it is not a healthy practice. And at the age of 56 McDowell should realize that.

Keep in mind that the hecklers were not gay… and if he thought they were, he probably would have not made the comments. I am assuming that because he was not angry with the hecklers… he was heckling back in his own way.

Quinn also claims he felt threatened by McDowell. He claims McDowell walked towards him with a bat and he felt threatened. I have season tix at AT&T Park… that is an 8 foot wall… Quinn is looking down at McDowell… there is no way McDowell is getting to Quinn. How threatened could he feel?I

The other SF fans are claiming Quinn kept barking at McDowell and Quinn’s wife told him to leave it alone. In which Quinn replied, don’t worry it’s not like McDowell is going to come into the stands. Definitely doesn’t sound like the traumatized victim he and his lawyer Gloria Allred is claiming him to be.

McDowell screwed up… what happens to him he can only blame on himself. But I do not think that Quinn… who initially contacted ESPN with this story before getting a lawyer… should be awarded in any way. He is an opportunist…. a guy that says he is protecting his children… but has no problem with putting them in front of cameras while watching Gloria Allred reenact anal sex with their Dad, and a baseball bat.

The guy is looking for 15-minutes of fame, or a payoff!

Carol

May 1st, 2011
4:32 pm

Thank God for Gloria Allred if she did not represent the everyday guy NO ONE WOULD LISTEN. If Mcdowell said these horrible words he should be ashamed of himself and be FIRED.Braves org. and the MBA should not condone this behavior.

testing

May 2nd, 2011
2:50 pm

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