3:22 pm April 29, 2011, by Carroll Rogers
April 29th, 20118:14 pm
that thing with the bat? aren’t there two bats in the video?
April 29th, 20118:16 pm
Saying kids don’t belong at a baseball game? Threatening a Father in front of his kids? And the piece of crap mcdowell dosn’t have the guts to speak his apology? Fire the a-hole!
April 29th, 20118:17 pm
Let me get this correct! It is ok for Gloria Allredy (to file any lawsuit anywhere for anything) to do this with the Bat in front of this guys kids, but not for McDowell?????????
April 29th, 20118:22 pm
right jt. this seems worse. the father should have control over this situation.
April 29th, 20118:23 pm
lifetime Atlanta sports fan,but have to say many Atlantasports fans are as dumb as a rock… kneejerk reactionaries…… and fair weather fans. LOOK we can’t win every game….players are not perfect, neither are coaches……get a lifw haters
April 29th, 20118:24 pm
maybe the father would have been more of a parent if he had the girls wear earmuffs and cover their eyes throughout the press conference
April 29th, 20118:26 pm
@cmac22. You are exactly right. Ive taken my kids to planty of games..if he had of pulled that crap on me in front of my kids I would have threatened HIM. and if he was dumb enough to come over, he would have been sorry. Fire his butt.
April 29th, 20118:29 pm
It is amazing to me that so many posters on here automatically assume the accuser is telling the entire truth. You are going to take somebody’s word that immediately hired a leech like Allred and make assumptions? Obviously McDowell said something, but it may not be all that this person accused him of. I don’t think a person should lose their job, and basically entire career, over one mistake without at least a chance to learn from it and move on. The NFL welcomed the felon Vick back with open arms, yet McDowell can’t make one mistake (that didn’t involve killing a living creature, I might add) without folks calling for his head immediately…very sad…
“We have Roger’s side of the story and we also have some witnesses that have corroborated what Roger has told us,” Wren said. “Once we have completed that process we’ll be a little more forthcoming with the facts.
Wait till we get the rest of the story before we string anybody up…….Come on folks if rodger did all he is being accused of somebody would already have it on you-tube!
@rugburn. You are wrong. There are plenty of haters on this and other blogs, but hating has nothing to do with this. My outrage comes from the parental standpoint. I wonder if his kids ever went to the ballpark? Im guessing yes..so where does he get off saying that?
At the very least he should pay a heavy fine, 50k at least, and be suspended without pay for at least 15 games. make it hurt.
Bill in VA
April 29th, 20118:30 pm
That’s one way not to have to throw to third!!
April 29th, 20118:35 pm
You guys suck. You’re ready to throw this guy under the bus and you haven’t even heard the whole story yet.
April 29th, 20118:37 pm
I say mcdowell should be fired immediately. Trash like this shouldn’t be allowed on a ball field, he owes everyone apologies and he’s really not a very good pitching coach. Get rid of him.
April 29th, 20118:41 pm
Fire McDowell now.
April 29th, 20118:43 pm
For all you virgin ears out there, you must not have been courtside at an NBA game. Whatever you do don’t take your kids down there.
April 29th, 20118:44 pm
I understand that McDowell’s comments were inappropriate, but I truly feel he should not lose his job over it….a suspension, fine or even both….but not his job. I guarantee you, any person who has commented on this article, has at some point in their life, said the wrong thing at the wrong time to someone and have regretted it….I for one am one of those individuals. Lets move one already.
dagnabit: You must be a closeted Phillies fan.
April 29th, 20118:50 pm
i’m not hating. i just said that if the father is so offended by the acts of roger being seen by his girls, he should not have been subjecting his girls to the same acts again being performed by their dad and a strange woman in a public forum. no hate, just a thought.
April 29th, 20118:53 pm
Maybe Hudson should be a bullpen pitcher good for 3 or 4 innings
April 29th, 20118:56 pm
jt maybe you should watch more baseball before making retarded comments.
April 29th, 20118:58 pm
Retarded ?? Retarded? I got your retarded!!
Got that one from McDowell
April 29th, 20118:59 pm
But what about the black people?
April 29th, 20119:03 pm
roger allegedly acted alone. the depiction in the press conference is clearly a travesty. if roger did all that he is accused of, he is wrong. i wasn’t there so i don’t know. i did however see the press conference, and that was very wrong.
April 29th, 20119:04 pm
Joe Simpson read the Braves’ release about Roger McDowell being placed on administrative leave and then closed with he hopes Roger is back with the team soon. Between him and Gonzalez, it sounds like a bunch of neanderthal jocks reflexively circling the wagons around one of their own. Then add that Derek Lowe has apologized only for the distraction
of his DUI arrest, but not for actually getting arrested for racing on a city street after drinking, and well I’m thinking there are a lot better ways I can spend my money this summer than at Turner Field. This is a bunch of overpaid prima donnas.
April 29th, 20119:05 pm
watch it jt. i’m calling a damn lawyer. she’s going to demonstrate retarded bat sex in a press conference. I won’t let her say “ass” though. THAT would be going too far.
April 29th, 20119:09 pm
funny joe dub.
April 29th, 20119:10 pm
From the article it seems Gonzalez is ready to sweep all this under the carpet. I don’t blame him in some ways but I wonder what his reaction would have been if it were anti-Hispanic slurs being voiced?
April 29th, 20119:12 pm
Richard ; They would have used a freshly picked cucumber rather than a bat>
April 29th, 20119:14 pm
for the pc it’s darn lawyer and challenged bat fornication
April 29th, 20119:15 pm
rugburn, bring your kids dude. one can hold the bat, while the other one simulates a butt hole.
April 29th, 20119:17 pm
Fire the Bum just because he is the Major League pitching coach should not save his job. Yes athletes and staff cus, but you do not do that to a FAMILY!!!!!!!
April 29th, 20119:19 pm
Typical Atlanta Braves good old boys situation, just like everybody else they turn there back because its a coach typical Jose Martinez CRAP!
April 29th, 20119:20 pm
Dhaus: Why not Dad let Gloria do that to his family
April 29th, 20119:26 pm
Hate it for McDowell, he’s a nice guy as for the rest of the da braves I wouldn’t care if they locked’em all up with the announcers and threw away the key
April 29th, 20119:29 pm
The Braves do not need any staff who get into arguments with fans–such immaturity belongs with the Tea Party maybe but not with the Braves leadership team. Get rid of him!!!
April 29th, 20119:32 pm
joedub, why jump me? i was on your side……so ….as far as my kids simulating an a-hole, how could they, they’ve never met you.
April 29th, 20119:36 pm
Fear the TEA PARTY
They are coming for you!!
April 29th, 20119:37 pm
I don’t know anything about what went on out there except what’s been said in the papers. However, years ago when I lived in NYC, Mcdowell acted like an idiot in the dugout at Shea all the time. They finally gave showed him the door. He’s been w/ the Braves for 6 years now; their pitching is mediocre at best. They could hire another coach for way less, do just as well or better and not have to deal with this nonsense.
April 29th, 20119:39 pm
I can’t believe I’m defending an ex-Met or any part of the Braves organization, but I don’t know what more people want from McDowell? He had a lapse in judgment and apologized for it, is he supposed to be shunned forever for making a mistake? I hate this PC society we live in where the minority rules the majority and nobody can get their wittle feelings hurt. Ugh, sac up and move on…
April 29th, 20119:40 pm
Just give him a fine and a talking to. No big deal. Bobby Cox had rape allegations. Chipper Jones was knocking up Hooters broads. It’s no big deal. If they fire Roger McDowell, it will be one of the most pathetic things this franchise has ever done……right up there with Bob Horner.
April 29th, 20119:41 pm
What did Horner do??
April 29th, 20119:42 pm
agreed scooby, i would actually like to hear from the three guys he had the original issue with
April 29th, 20119:44 pm
Super Fat DL Bum.
April 29th, 20119:45 pm
Family Day at the Braves should be fun. Gloria Allred is a grifter but that doesn’t excuse inappropriate comments. McDowell apologized and feels bad so we have to assume he said something.
BTW.. The Yankees are giving 500,000 to tornado victims. Although I hate the Yankees, it is a classy move and I’d love to see the Brave’s do the same thing.
rugburn, my bad dude, you misunderstood. i was still riffing on the press conference video. i don’t really want your kids to simulate retarded bat sex. that would make me as bad as Quinn.
April 29th, 20119:48 pm
when something like this happens in college football, NFL or NBA the comments are telling. Its is usually stuff like “see this is why im growing apart from the sport” “oh they are thugs” “oh the end of days are here” etc etc………when some good ole boy in MLB does this its “hey this country is soft!” “whatever happened to free speech!” “get thicker skin” The comments overlook drug abuse, wife beating (cough…bobby cox), children out of wedlock (cough…..chipper), and other equally bad behavior. Why does MLB get a pass? It has the highest number of bad people and douchebags per capita of all the major sports!
April 29th, 20119:49 pm
Maybe he said them and maybe he didn’t, I don’t know, however I do know that I have sat near the bullpen before and what he allegedly said is nothing and I mean NOTHING compared to what is yelled at the opposing teams players. This was at Atlanta Fulton Co stadium not in Philly or Chicago!!!!! If he did say those things I really don’t blame him.
April 29th, 20119:50 pm
i remember going to a game years ago,sitting by the dodgers bullpen and ragging on steve yeager throughout the whole game. after the game he grinned and waved and said “see ya tomorrow night”. good times and no pc involved.
April 29th, 20119:53 pm
joedub, i take it back. it was as lame as “i know you are but what am i?” anyway. it’s all good. back to trash. in the video, which one are we calling the retarded bat?
April 29th, 20119:54 pm
Whats the world coming to when u cant call out someone for being a walking vilation of the laws of nature? Good thing cops dont enforce those laws……..
April 29th, 201110:00 pm
what’s the big deal? he’s a pitching coach, not a kindergarten teacher
April 29th, 201110:02 pm
all the gays trying to pile on here. lol
gloria allred’s gotta be the retarded bat. dude’s wife is a creeper though, maybe she’s the retarded bat
April 29th, 201110:03 pm
Oh….btw how many fines did Maddogg get on the mound when he was here?
PC is the ruination of this country. If u want to be something, but dont want to be called what you are….then u r the one needing help, not the namecaller.
April 29th, 201110:07 pm
man, i love sea bass
April 29th, 201110:08 pm
Not defending what is alleged to have happened in SF, I did the kid’s parade with my seven and nine year old daughters a few weeks ago. McDowell, McCann, Lowe and Eddie Perez were warming up in right field about 20 feet from where we were walking. McDowell was waving at the kids and really seemed to be enjoying the interaction. All of what is alleged is disturbing, but because of what I saw I was most intrigued by the comment about kids at the ballpark because he really seemed to appreciate the kids being there that day.
April 29th, 201110:10 pm
you know? watching the video i don’t think i even noticed his wife. gloria was the centerpiece and the father just didn’t look like he wanted to be there
April 29th, 201110:12 pm
someone update me on the game. we survived the tornadoes here in se tenn but sadly our cable didn’t.
April 29th, 201110:22 pm
Oh my goodness, I’m offended. Let me sashay on over there and bop you with my magic wand full of pixie dust.
April 29th, 201110:23 pm
i was at all 3 of the braves vs giants games, i got to every game atleast 3 hours before the gates to enter the park were opend, Met roger mcdowell outside of the stadium a real cool guy, and inside he was signing for everybody. I dont really understand how Quinn can say for Mcdowell to watch his language, when quinn was sitting in the worst part of the stadium where the roughest crowd is. There were 2 fights in the left field bleachers on saturday, and the crowd shouting ” whats the matter with heyward…. He’s a bum!!” Giant fans were also Harrasing David Ross, Johnny Venters, and Kraig Kimbrle.They were using a large amount of vulgar language. but i guess Quinn and his twin daughters diddnt see the 2 fights, or hear the crowd, everybody that has been to a baseball game knows that the bleachers is the roughest crowd in the stadium! So get off rogers back man and get a real job, instead of trying to get rich over night
April 29th, 201110:24 pm
Gloria Allred has a pee pee. She was one of the original cast of Rocky Horror Picture Show.
April 29th, 201110:25 pm
Hiring Gloria (publicity hound) Allred is a big red flag. Somebody is looking for $$ and attention
April 29th, 201110:42 pm
It’s despicable behavior on McDowell’s part. Oh, and by the way Fredi, no one cares what you think about this. You’d defend him no matter what.
April 29th, 201110:45 pm
Reality Bites…excellent former comment; the last one…not so much.
Maddog always shouted expletives for those who sat close to home plate. It is part of sports including baseball.
Quit being so PC. The likes of Gloria Allred and her legal buddies are what has this country in a mess.
As far as Lowe…no it wasn’t right and that’s why there is a law against it. He will be punished by the law, but it is not the Braves place to dole out his sentence. Baseball players and coaches are people just like everyone else. They are a microcosm and include all that is good and all the warts of the rest of society. If you are upset that they make outrageous salaries, fine. But don’t think they should be subjected to harsher penalties than the rest of society when they err.
April 29th, 201110:49 pm
Jeff, your Dad, if he read this blog, would certainly declare it to be the most ignorance concentrated in one place that he has ever seen. I’m nearly 75 years old and declare I’ve never seen so much ignorance. For the most part the opinions expressed here are not helpful, but rather hateful. We all ought to let the Braves, major league baseball and the legal system handle their affairs. They will have the advantage of facts and make judgements. We don’t know anything particularly because we where not there and have no excess to the parties involved. Why over react? Why make such judgements from our vantage point? None of us are personally affected Why would anyone post such opinions?
April 29th, 201110:51 pm
Well, it looks like the Braves will lose to the Cards tonight. They are down 2 runs and coming to bat. Hard to lose this one, but there is always tomorrow! Go Braves!
April 29th, 201110:53 pm
Enough of this…………These fans are good at baiting the players and coaches……Leave McDowell alone……………..He has caught hell enough about this trivial nonsense.
April 29th, 201111:01 pm
This is a sad and unfortunate story. How does a guy with 20 plus year experience in the Majors put himself in this situation to begin with? It really blows my mind. You wonder if McDowell was somehow kidding or thought he was kidding w/ the fans. It sounds like some other fans are corroborating with the the fan’s story. I really think the Braves should fire McDowell. In a job like such as this you are held to a higher standard. You cannot engage in any type of confrontation with fans – PERIOD. Then on top of this the comments he made were derogatory towards children and a minority group. It’s not too much unlike the Damon Evans saga. It pained Bulldog nation for him to be fired, but it was such an awful PR nightmare for the school we had no choice.
April 29th, 201111:11 pm
If and only if it is determined that the statements are true then an appropriate punishment should be addressed, However I agree with a number of other responses in that by hiring the nutcase Alred the Fan bringing the complaint has lost a lot of credibility with me and I am sure a numbver of others.
Oh by the way, where are the three “men” to which the comments where directed?
April 29th, 201111:15 pm
nick p — your the idiot—– not for one minute do i believe things happened the way this dad said they happened— who goes an gets an attorney when you hear bad words—- and who parades their kids like this— someone who has other motives– just stifle yourself nick p–= the color yellow probably make s you sad too
April 29th, 201111:25 pm
The last time I checked, Freedom of Speech was still protected, under the Constitution of the United States of America.
Of course, for the last 35 or so years, that has been interpreted to say You’re free to denigrate God and His Kingdom, but not to say anything about the sin in the world!!
I can remember as far back as 1978, when it was illegal to speak of Jesus Christ inside any building that wasn’t a church – BUT, nobody said a word, when people would take the Holy Name of the Risen Lord in vain, in those same buildings.
Personally, I am sick and tired of this double standard. For a person to say something is his right — in the America I know. For Roger McDowell to vent by making disparaging statements about homosexuals is also protected under the Constitution of the United States (at least he one I believ in).
So, get off the man’s case. If the queers don’t like it, THEY are only upset becausse they know THEY are dong something wrong!!
April 29th, 201111:27 pm
What a sad joke this country has become. Special interest groups have all the rights and set the rules. Obviously if you don’t bow down to them you may be fired from your job. If McDowell were gay and made a derogatory comment to a fan about being straight would anybody be talking about it? Would McDowell be sitting at home wondering if he was going to be fired? What happened to Koby Bryant for his “gay slur” recently? A fine and that is it. If McDowell were black that moron lawyer would have never taken the case and this would have been one day news. White straight males in this country are nothing more than punching bags and will continue to be so until/unless we start punching back.
April 29th, 201111:40 pm
I have read some of these comments on this blog and I’m a little embarrassed to be a Braves fan right now! There are some idiots on here! It seems quite obvious to me that this father of the 2 girls is trying to make a payday out of this whole ordeal. Why do some of you people believe every freakin thing this guy has claimed happened and was said? He’s hired a scummy “celebrity lawyer” to make money and get attention, yet claims he wants his daughters protected…right!
And all these people thinking McDowell will be/should be fired are dead wrong. Oh and bring back Leo…are you kidding me? He is retired and has been a long while and the Braves wouldn’t be interested in bringing him back. His personality would be too strong for a new manager, with Bobby it was manageable. He didn’t do too well in Baltimore either, which many people here obviously don’t remember! Shutup already, some of you are just plain dumb!!!!!!!
Would gays, blacks, hispanics, asians, and all sub-groups submit a list to us dumb straight white folks as to what we can say, where we can say it, and in what tone we may say it in going forward. Since we have to work for a living, we really need to keep our jobs and continue paying taxes for everyone else to tell us what, where and how to conduct ourselves.
April 29th, 201111:41 pm
‘Jump through hoops”? Gonzales seems to think this is just a little matter that needs to be pushed under the rug. He doesn’t sound like much of a winner himself. I don’t give him very long in that position with all the junk that is going on with the Braves.
April 29th, 201111:47 pm
One more comment and I will give the board back to the homos, I have read some comments about folks not going to another Braves game if they don’t fire McDowell. Let me say that I do actually go to several Braves games a year and always have. However, if McDowell should be fired, I will NEVER go to another Braves game. I am sick of seeing management give in to special interest because of homo threats.
April 29th, 201111:49 pm
McDowell probably did let his emotions get the best of him and said things he now regrets but we’ve all done that. How many of us lost our jobs because of it? How many of us have had to undergo sensitivity training because of it? I’m guessing none of us posting here.
He owes the fans an apology and thats it. He lost his temper and said hurtful things and needs to right his own wrong. That is the same standard any of us would be held to. If not, we would all be unemployed and spending all of our time in seminars if every display of anger and/or regrettable comments resulted in the loss of a job or the requirement to attend sensitivity training.
The involvement of Gloria Allred has to make anyone with a brain suspicious and the repetitive re-enactment of the sex act with the bat REPEATEDLY in front of the very children the father supposedly wants to protect from this speaks volumes.
I see another Punk Fan
April 30th, 201112:06 am
Only a gay fan would want Roger fired. All these idiots commenting like Roger is supposed to be a Saint. I can only imagine what the punk fans up in the stands were screaming out Funny how some fans love to verbally abuse people while they hide in the stands.
April 30th, 201112:36 am
Wren should be fired for putting him on administrative leave. The fact Allred is involved I say give him the bats back and let him finish the job. Grow a spine Wren and protect him.
what me worry
April 30th, 201112:49 am
Free speech is bad. Good ole fashion PINKO COMMUNISM. Guess baseball players should be wearing dresses. If Roger was a cop in SF and they were pointing a gun at him,he couldn’t fire until they shot at him first.
April 30th, 20111:06 am
Blah, blah, blah…
Tip Of The Cap
April 30th, 20111:49 am
McDowell is our Michael Richards aka Kramer. What a jerk.
April 30th, 20111:52 am
what me worry – Serious? He cursed in front of kids and said they had no right being at a ball park. Then threatened people with a bat. Really? He is supposed to be professional and deal with hecklers. Not scare kids to the point of never wanting to see another game. If kids were not involved it would be different but he messed up. Just saying.
April 30th, 20112:50 am
I remember seeing Randy Johnson strike out like twelve braves as a kid. I got to hear nine of them say the f-word.
April 30th, 20112:56 am
They don’t belong there, if you never want your kid to hear swearing.
April 30th, 20113:53 am
If McDowell did say these things… I’m wondering what he says to the pitchers on the mound. Scary!
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April 30th, 20117:55 am
This is just a ploy to try to extol money in a lawsuit. This guy is only in it for the money and it’s a shame that this guy is gonna get 10-20 years of my salary just because McDowell cursed at this guy or made anti gay remarks to him. I hate the way money gets tossed around so frivolously when there are so many people out of work and underwater with there mortgages. It amazes me how people continue to go to sports events and fork up to $300 for a crappy seat including maybe a hot dog and a beer. You can’t live the high life with nothing backing you up. The problem I have with A-Rod’s contract and the Yankees in general is just the pie in the sky mentality that pervades our society. “Money for nuthin and chicks for free.”
April 30th, 20118:37 am
this whole thing seems a little weird! maybe roger did go over board with his comments but who hires a lawyer for that? that guy is hiding behind his lawyer! I will say i was at turner field for the braves & marlins a few weeks ago & was sitting on row 1 down the line between first base & right field and both nights I was there roger spoke very nice to me & he even came over and gave the kid next to me a baseball! It does not seem like the act of a guy who would say something like what that dummy in san fran is saying!
April 30th, 20118:39 am
I don’t know what is worse. The behavior of the coach or the media play and re-inactment with the husband, attorney, wife, et-al.
Sensitivity training – are you serious. This is a grown man coaching baseball pitchers. Is he wrong? Yes, of course he is, but the other side is making a mockery out of a bad incident.
To the homosexual men that were offended…Be a man, move on. To the children…learn how not to be…
April 30th, 20118:57 am
These are very “serious” charges. I suggest a 5 dollar fine and get back to baseball.
April 30th, 20119:08 am
Funny how no one has mentioned the heckling that started the whole thing. I mean, we hear all the terrible things Mcdowel said, but those three fans heckling him? I bet they just wanted an autograph. And I bet that guy was just being a good dad.
It’s a shame that evil man from the opposing team, no less, would say such hateful things unprovoked. Completely believable story, that this man would just calmly ask Roger, very politely, to not swear in front of kids; that Mcdowel’s response would be to just fly off the handle.
Oh, that all above was satire, if you didn’t pick up on it. I’m certainly not condoning Mcdowel’s actions. But to honestly believe this fan’s story, well, I’m sorry. I’m not buying it. It is obviously a publicity stunt; the press conference with his children says it all.
I guess this guy just got caught up trying to protect his children. So much so that he is exploiting them mercilessly.
If you have ever been to a sporting event, you know some of the most foul things you hear come from the STANDS, you know, fans sitting right next to you. It doesn’t make Roger right, but come on now. Just because he is in the spotlight, he has to be the ONLY one accountable? What about those heckling him? They get a pass because they paid admission?? And I bet they weren’t hurling expletives around either, but amazingly (the hometown fans) this “father of the year” was only offended by Mcdowel’s comments?
Again, not buying it. This father is a loser, and he is doing more harm to his children by not letting this go. He is basically telling them that if you get offended; or your feelings get hurt, you can go to the police (and maybe make some extra cash, too). Especially if you have children to tow around as “victims”. Make sure you coach the kids to look as sad and hurt as possible in the photo op. Good one. Teach them lying, too.
April 30th, 20119:25 am
I absolutely don’t care what was said to Mcdowell.He should have been a man and walked away.My grandmother oncw told me that when you get mad and start screaming things that the “REAL” inner person comes out and I do beleive that.That being said,I dont want to hear ….oh..he’s not that type of guy.BULL…he just showed his true colors.
April 30th, 20119:30 am
The point people, is I doubt VERY much that Mcdowel said that “kids don’t belong at the park”. I find it very hard to believe that Mcdowel was going to “bash this guy’s teeth in” in front of this children. You know the saying, if it sounds too good to be true, it is? Well, if it sounds so completely ridiculous, then it probably is.
Again, I’m sure Roger said things he shouldn’t have. But, let me ask you guys: Have you ever said something you didn’t believe? Or say something out of anger/frustration–or even say an inappropriate joke?? If you NEVER have, then be the first to cast a stone Roger’s way.
But remember that these athletes, coaches, etc. (in any sport) are humans. We have to stop treating them like they are more than human because they make a lot of money. We have to stop elevating these guys into being role models; just because it is easier than being role model’s ourselves.
Personally, I find what D Lowe did MUCH MUCH more reprehensible. If someone has to lose their job, it should be Lowe. Lots of innocent people DIE every year because of drunk drivers such as him. And if convicted, he should be suspended the rest of the season (or longer if possible).
I would lose my job if I was arrested for a DUI. And I make about 14.9 million dollars LESS a year than him. But, hey, Roger should be fired; right?
April 30th, 20119:33 am
So, old man, it only took 30 years or so for mcdowel to “show his true colors”, eh? Couldnt have possibly been a foot in the mouth thing, right? Because I bet you have NEVER said anything you wish you could take back, right? So I guess because Mcdowel is a MLB pitching coach, then there is no excuse and he should lose his job for that? Wow, you are one righteous person, old man.
April 30th, 20119:40 am
old man, you think that this is the first time mcdowel’s been heckled? The guy played in NY AND Philly for all those years. Probably 2 of the roughest places to play. He also has an OPENLY HOMOSEXUAL (Cubs fan) writing letters on Roger’s behalf. How come this is the first time we are hearing how bad Mcdowel is? Probably because this father of the year is blowing this thing WAY out of proportion (and most likely flat out lying).
April 30th, 20119:56 am
For the people calling for Rogers head on a platter, I would think you would have a stronger case if the offended fans had simply called the Braves and asked for an apology. The moment they chose to make this a matter for the press is the moment they crossed the line from righteously offended to whining publicity monger. Using Gloria Allred as their mouthpiece shows that all they are after is fame and fortune. This assumes that Roger even said all those things.
The totality of his repugnant remarks and irrational behavior leave the organization little choice but to dismiss him. This behavior cannot be tolerated, certainly not by the Atlanta Braves. A professional should not react to heckling in this manner, particularly someone who played in NYC for the Mets.
April 30th, 201110:19 am
reverie, that is exactly my point. That I don’t believe for a second Roger said those things. And what he did say, what was the context? It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if those 3 fans and Roger were messing around having fun. Roger IS KNOWN for having fun with the crowd. He may have said those things screwing around.
All of it is moot though, because I wasn’t there. Didn’t get the context, hear what was said or HOW it was said. And neither were ANY OF YOU PEOPLE calling for his head. So, we all know what the father of the year is accusing, but not much else.
And for those who say it doesn’t matter HOW something is said- you are wrong. It does matter. Because things can be said facetiously, etc. Not everything is black and white. Oh, and NOT ONE OF US WAS THERE. Did I mention that already?
It is easy to see the comments in print (if those comments were in deed ACTUALLY MADE) and jump on the bandwagon to call for his dismissal.
But, again, there are quite the righteous group here on this blog. People who I bet have NEVER said anything inappropriate. Never have made an ass of themselves. Never have put their foot in their mouth. I guess though that is what makes those in the stands different. If I am in the stands, calling a player something regrettable, then hey that’s expected. But if that player turns around gives it back, well then he is repugnant and irrational. Because he isn’t human, like me. Why? Because he makes more money and is in the public’s eye.
How is that thinking rational? It isn’t. The basis is that players/coaches can’t make a mistake or say something stupid. But fans at the games? Well, we can’t expect anything more from those slobs. Is that it?
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