Ross’ 2 HRs, J.J.’s CG, Chipper’s Mantle-matching RBIs lead Braves

SAN DIEGO – Braves backup catcher David Ross sang an Eddie Money ‘80s hit “Shakin’” as a good-luck ritual during a series sweep at San Francisco last weekend. On Tuesday, he and sh-sh-shook San Diego and Padres pitcher Aaron Harang.

Ross hit two homers to drive in four runs during the Braves’ 8-2 win against the Padres at Petco Park, where Jair Jurrjens pitched the first complete-game win for the Braves since 2009 and Chipper Jones matched a mark by the great Mickey Mantle.

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jj

April 27th, 2011
3:28 am

Great game JJ and I hope you remain a Brave for a long time.I believe we have the best backup catcher in MLB.Congrats.Mr Ross.I hope Hanson and a rested bullpen finish this roadtrip strong today and our hitters keep it going.I hope Freddie havew a breakout day today.Let’s Go Braves and please don’t trade JJ.He’s the man and except for last year he has been lights out.

Jim

April 27th, 2011
3:29 am

First!! Sorry I had to do it.

Jim

April 27th, 2011
3:30 am

Awww. Man, I thought I had it.

SUMMER OF 91

April 27th, 2011
4:36 am

I heard that song when I jumped in my truck tonight(last night) around 20:30, and I thought of Ole Rossy and the Ole beat blog….maybe there’s something there. BTW what song does Kimbo come into when he comes in for a save? anybody know?

Kinshin Kawakami

April 27th, 2011
7:19 am

you can trade me,

Scroggy 7

April 27th, 2011
7:28 am

Does David Ross have a first base glove ???

Joey

April 27th, 2011
8:20 am

Ross would be starting nearly anywhere else. Mac’s bat keeps in the lineup, not his glove or arm.

Bill

April 27th, 2011
8:23 am

Great job JJ and Ross……..Hudson should have had complete game also except for Fredi.
If the song turns players on so be it..nothing like fun in clubhouse.

enz

April 27th, 2011
8:24 am

Man, it is just indescribable how important Ross is to our team….I heard that Eddie Money song last night before the game too!
Good job Dave…Have a safe trip home!

O-me

April 27th, 2011
8:25 am

Nothing wrong with Freeman’s glove. It looks more like gold everyday and his bat has been hot.

1911A1

April 27th, 2011
8:29 am

I love to see when people try to steal on Ross and he guns them down. The guy has a cannon for an arm.

phil

April 27th, 2011
8:44 am

That was a sweet game last night. Looking for the negative though, McOut was 0-4 and JJ gave up some hits….fire FG….

but seriously, even Uggla managed a hit and a walk to make up for his bumbles in the field…

Ross is basically a stud. Wish there was some way to play him every day….

phil

April 27th, 2011
8:46 am

Proud of JJ and the way he pitched. A CG 3 games into his season isn’t shabby. He’s been easily our best out of the gate. If he can stay healthy, a force for sure. Perfect time for the CG on the heels of the marathon games of late…

And Chipper…you’ve got to love him.

Larry

April 27th, 2011
9:21 am

Yes, we know two things:

1. When the Braves hit home runs against mediocre pitching they have a great chance at victory.
2. The guy that hit two of those home runs, David Ross, was left stranded on the bench in the loss the night before.

Given his 2010 performance and his upper 80’s fastball during Spring training, I am pleasantly surprised at JJ’s performance. He seems to have found a few more mph.

Nice win…let’s home they can take today’s game and come home with a 6-4 road trip.

Larry

April 27th, 2011
9:27 am

And top of the morning to you, phil!

David O'Brien

April 27th, 2011
9:42 am

1. When the Braves hit home runs against mediocre pitching they have a great chance at victory. — Larry

Harang was 4-0 with a 1.88 ERA in five starts before the Braves pounded him Tuesday. He’s pitched better than mediocre in 2010.

2. The guy that hit two of those home runs, David Ross, was left stranded on the bench in the loss the night before.

Yes, that’s where most backup catchers in the NL spend most games. Your point?

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
9:55 am

Yeah, that was another cheap shot homer for the slow bat of Chipper.
And the Braves beat another “sore-arm pitcher.

Arthur Redding, Jr.

April 27th, 2011
10:03 am

I’ve always liked Ross–is there a better back-up catcher in baseball?

I’m surprised nobody’s tried to pry him away from the Braves and make him their starting catcher. (Or maybe they have but nothing came of it.) What would the Red Sox, for example, give in a trade for Ross? They could sure use him.

But so can we.

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
10:05 am

I now know what Fredi should have done in the 13th inning of the first game. He should have put Ross in to PH and then told Ross to go ahead and hit a HR in that game, instead of hitting two in the second game of the series. Because he would only needed one for each game.
Oh yeah, Fredi should have specified to Ross, that he needed the 3run HR from him in the first game, so that he could give Sherrill or Ascensio a little breathing room. Or, Fredi could have just gone ahead and burnt Kimbrel’s arm out.

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
10:06 am

I wouldn’t trade Ross.

CajunStorm

April 27th, 2011
10:07 am

My posts have pretty much been boring so far this season but TWO thongs I’ve said from day one
1. The Braves will win 93 games! (Wake me when we get there)
2. Jair Jurrjens is our best pitcher! (Not Tommy & JJ is not injury prone!)

Anyway…. the offense will kick in and oh what a sight it will be.

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
10:17 am

McLouth should be batting 1.000, there is no excuse for him not doing it.

TC

April 27th, 2011
10:30 am

I guess we wont be seeing any posts from Larry for a little while…thanks DOB

Arthur Redding, Jr.

April 27th, 2011
10:32 am

My guess is that Wren is actively looking for a replacement for McLouth–he’s just not the CF’er the Braves have got to have.

Ken Stallings

April 27th, 2011
10:45 am

Tom Glavine made an interesting point at the close out of his color commentary of our last home game. He said that if the Braves could emerge from this road trip, “in the area of .500″ that they would be in good shape. His point was that the Braves have faced a veritable murderer’s row of pitchers so far this young season. And if you look at the teams the Braves have faced, Glavine is right!

San Diego’s offense is the weak spot of that team. It kept them out of the playoffs (barely) last year and with the departure of Adrian Gonzalez, the team is very weak at the plate. The pitching staff is among the best in the NL. So, the Braves have played well to get the runs they have. Last night was a nice performance all around. Unfortunately the Braves did not get a few breaks, and had a few breakdowns on the base paths on Monday night. Else, the Braves might be looking to pull off a second sweep in a row tonight.

Going up against the Dodgers, Giants, and Padres on a 10 game road trip and emerging either 5-5 or 6-4 is acceptable. The team was in a pitiful state at the end of the home stand, but they are showing signs of the offense finally clicking. I’m not concerned about the pitching, either starters or relievers. The Braves are as good as any team in baseball in those two areas.

This is still the team many people expect to compete for the NL East. They are starting to look like that team.

Total Grace

April 27th, 2011
11:01 am

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S'paw_99

April 27th, 2011
11:01 am

I’ve been wishing for a while that there was a way to play both B-Mac & Rossy everyday, but there isn’t. We all know that Ross is better offensively that some of our other guys (McLouth). Freeman is actually starting to play well right now, & I think one of the biggest improvements on our D has been his glove at 1B digging out the bad throws.

O-me

April 27th, 2011
11:01 am

Whats your point TC? You don’t like others to give their opinion…does that sound familiar? I like to hear someone other than homer on here.

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Larry

April 27th, 2011
11:28 am

Mr. O’Brien

In the past when one has too strong of a dissenting opinion to your’s or in any way questions you the result is you simply ban them. Therefore, since this is your blog and you have your finger on the ban button I’ll not offer a counter point and leave this discussion the way you prefer it…one sided with omnipotent control.

Enjoy the bike rides and try to remain objective and open minded to counter arguments if you want a spirited and progressive dialogue outside of the “yes” men here of mindless followers. Or, as you so have the power to do, just “out” me and other men of the courage and willingness to challenge the status quo, question the bland and boring, and seek without end a championship personally and professionally.

And think you know perfectly well my point about David Ross not being used, don’t you?

Joey

April 27th, 2011
11:43 am

Not one single mention of Chipper tying Mantle’s RBI total on ESPN today. Further proof that they give not a whit about Atlanta or most teams outside of LA, Boston, and NY.

Navigator

April 27th, 2011
11:45 am

Please don’t embarrass yourself by comparing Mantle to Jones. Mantle’s constant partying ended his career at 32 years (last positive year), but he dominated the American years during his best years and set up the years of the M&M boys and during his career won many world series. Chipper doesn’t have the pedigree so stop talking about him doing it over 16 years when he never dominated anything but the Mets.

phil

April 27th, 2011
11:51 am

O-me…thank you. Yes, it’s nice to hear something other than way to go team….doesn’t mean we have to agree with it…

I’ll assume there’s a history of “bad” blood with Larry and DOB? I didn’t think Harang was mediocre by any stretch. His numbers certainly didn’t forecast that egg he laid. That said, he certainly didn’t look good at all…in fact, he looked very mediocre. An off night clearly, unless it becomes bad habit….

Reckingball – You think Harang has a sore arm?

Larry – lol at “mindless followers”….and be nice to Dave…he’s cranky and ready to get home to his own bed.

phil

April 27th, 2011
11:53 am

Joey – as i was saying about chipper last nite on the blog….he isn’t respected at all nationally and will have trouble being elected to the HOF….you can see it coming, no matter how much it may piss us off….

Navigator – you’re right. Chipper’s a bum….

alexander

April 27th, 2011
11:54 am

I like ross, but having him on the bench most of the time is a waste.Given the sorry state of mlb catching in general;I would think that the “Maja”( f.w.) is shopping him for a very good center fielder.

phil

April 27th, 2011
11:59 am

I would be in favor of packaging Ross with someone to get a really GOOD CF…..he is indeed not much help riding the pines, which he obviously has to do most of the time….McLouth just isn’t panning out…..I wish he would but he can’t hit, can’t throw….so….

I’m far from a hitting coach, but it seems if McOut would reinvent the swing a little – flatten it out some for crying out loud – that he’d be seeing a lot more baseknocks and a lot fewer ks and grounders to first…..that loop in his swing takes hours to clear the strike zone….

nique

April 27th, 2011
12:36 pm

DOB, Ross shouldn’t be left on the bench with Boscan also on the bench – I thought that was the reason for the move?

Skeezix

April 27th, 2011
12:52 pm

#7 of the Yankees was a childhood sports hero (as was the Braves #44). I followed #7 in the newspapers and once in a while on radio, but have only seen #7 play in old documentary films about the Yankees or past World series. Now it is so cool that Chipper (#10), who I have watched play since he was a rookie, now has matched #7 in RBIs. My grandson, who is just becoming aware of baseball, will definitely hear me speak about the greatness of #7, #44 and of course now #10.

Congratulations Chipper!!

Skeezix

April 27th, 2011
12:57 pm

Re: This long road trip. While most of the time the offense has struggled, this has shown that they have fight in them and won’t give up. The sweep of the Giants (after disappointment in LA) should be a wake up call to all other NL teams that this team can get it done, while sturggling offensively, even against great pitching ——————- hear that wake up call Phillies?

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
1:02 pm

Some of these comments are ridiculously funny.

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
1:04 pm

SO many of them sound like the same person is making them, using different names. It is highlarious.

wjones

April 27th, 2011
1:27 pm

nique, Boscan was optioned back to Gwinnett on April 16. That was the day that we activated JJ.

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
1:32 pm

The Braves better get it in gear, or they will never make the playoffs.
Absolutely no chance of catching the Phillies, because they will never lose a game, with those starting pitchers that they have.
One or two more losses for the Braves, and that is it. There has never been a team that ended April, with a .500 or one or two games below .500 record, that was able to make it into the playoffs, in the entire history of MLB.

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
1:34 pm

SOmeone push the panic button.

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
1:41 pm

When the Braves get home, they should tar and feather McLouth, and ride him out of town on a rail.

Justin B

April 27th, 2011
1:41 pm

Reckingball the braves finished last season with a losing record in april and made the playoffs.

Wat

April 27th, 2011
1:47 pm

DOB I’m hearing that Roy Oswalt has left the Phillies for personal reasons with no expected return date.

Do you have anymore information on what is happening up in philly?

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
1:48 pm

How dare Chipper Jones, to have the audacity to tie the RBI record of Mickey Mantle. Who does he think he is anyway?
Chipper will never make the HOF, no matter how many records he holds, or how great of a player he has been, or the asset to the game that he has been.

phil

April 27th, 2011
1:57 pm

reckingball – you feeling ok?

David O'Brien

April 27th, 2011
2:04 pm

nique, Boscan hasn’t been on the team for almost two weeks. He was on the team for total of eight days, during a time when Braves didn’t need fifth starter.

Larry

April 27th, 2011
2:07 pm

“highlarious”

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
2:14 pm

Is that me, or just an ehco of some of the earlier comments, on this page?

FJR

April 27th, 2011
2:20 pm

I’ve never understood the point of having to keep your backup catcher on the bench. yes, I understand that the catcher position is more likely to be injured during the game. That being said, I just think it’s ridiculous to forgo nearly 100 PH AB opportunities for Ross for a small chance that McCann MIGHT get injured during the game and we’d have to put in an emergency catcher. ESPECIALLY when you consider the fact that Ross would only PH late in the game, so basically you’re looking at the chance that McCann gets injured in the 9th inning of a game.

It’s like when a player gets 4 fouls early in a basketball game and the coach sits the player for nearly the whole game and the player ends up logging only 10 minutes. What was the coach scared of, that the player would foul out and only play 10 minutes?

I think the fear that the catcher might get injured and we’d need a backup is nowhere near enough to basically keep your backup catcher from entering the game as a PH 80-100 times over the course of a season. Just because that’s what most NL managers do doesn’t mean it’s smart.

Such a situation might happen 1 time over the course of a year. Do you think the risk of having somebody like Brooks Conrad having to emergency catch one inning in one game over the course of a season is so awful that you forgo 80-100 PH opportunities?!

FJR

April 27th, 2011
2:23 pm

and agree or disagree with Larry, he at least made an argument. DOB didn’t make an argument, he just appealed to the authority of managers. If you look up a list of logical flaws, blind appeal to authority is listed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority

FJR

April 27th, 2011
2:26 pm

another point is that most NL managers don’t use their backup catcher as a PH at least partially because the overwhelming majority of backup catchers in the NL are awful hitters, not significantly better than a good hitting pitcher. I’d guarantee that few managers in the NL would use a guy like David Ross as little as we do if they had him.

BravesLegend

April 27th, 2011
2:35 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=6437252
I hope everything personally is okay with Roy Oswalt, but it looks like the Phillies lose one of the Fab “4″ for a while.

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
2:38 pm

I believe that Ross was the last unused position player left in the 13 inning game, in the 13th inning, so Conrad was not available for emergency catching.

But it does sound like a good idea to try and train Conrad or somebody to be an emergency catcher.
Or MLB could expand the rosters to 26, so the Braves could keep a 3rd catcher.
But most of the teams would probably want an additional pitcher instead.

FJR

April 27th, 2011
2:44 pm

yeah, reckingball, they’d definitely add another bullpen arm. It just seems like, especially when you have a backup as good as ross, who we pay as much as we do (and I think he’s worth it) it’s kind of silly to not maximize our investment.

In some crazy situation where every other player is used and then the catcher gets injured, then you could have your most expendable versatile player currently in the game catch and put a pitcher in LF. I mean yeah, that would be less than ideal, but again, the chances are so miniscule and it would be for very little of the game. it just seems crazy to lose all those PH AB’s on the chance that something bad might happen once every few seasons.

To me it seems more likely that both catchers get injured in the same game than a single catcher gets injured in a scenario where you burned your backup late in the game. It seems a bit like not going to the store because you’re afraid of being hit by a tractor trailer.

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
2:48 pm

In my opinion, Fredi didn’t use Ross as a PH in the 13th of Monday’s game, because of the pitchers that he had left on the bench, more than the idea, that he didn’t want to use the back-up catcher.

FJR

April 27th, 2011
2:50 pm

I don’t even want to speculate on why Fredi did that, I’ve long given up on trying to figure out Fredi’s reasons for the decisions he makes. Fredi does what he does, don’t try to understand it. I was mostly just responding to DOB’s reasoning.

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
2:50 pm

I do agree with you that Ross is a valuable and powerful weapon in the batter’s box.
I would also like to see him get a lot more ABs.

FJR

April 27th, 2011
2:53 pm

Yeah, I’d like to see Ross get 200-250 PA’s in a year instead of the 150 he’s historically gotten.

FJR

April 27th, 2011
3:09 pm

Now, I don’t want to suggest that I think Ross is a better hitter than McCann, because I don’t think that at all. I just want to point out what a huge weapon we often leave in the holster with Ross with a simple fact. Ross’s OPS has been higher than McCann’s every season that Ross has been here.

jch

April 27th, 2011
3:09 pm

scroggy – are you suggesting Ross take over at 1B from Freeman? Seriously???

Freeman just might be the best defensive 1B in the league and his bat is definitely coming around – remember, he’s a rookie and happens to be leading all NL rookies in several offensive categories including doubles and HR’s.

Exactly why would we want to replace him???

If baseball management is your chosen profession I hope you work in Philadelphia!

FJR

April 27th, 2011
3:18 pm

jch,best to ignore that statement, you’ll completely blow your brain up trying to think about all the different ways that scroggy’s statement made no sense. (for instance on the crazy chance that we were going to move one of our catchers to 1B, wouldn’t it be McCann, and not the defensive wizard Ross?)

phil

April 27th, 2011
3:31 pm

You guys in and around ATL, please keep both eyes on the weather tonight….ominous forecast and serious stuff on the move towards us….

phil

April 27th, 2011
3:36 pm

reckingball

April 27th, 2011
1:41 pm
When the Braves get home, they should tar and feather McLouth, and ride him out of town on a rail.

exactly…

phil

April 27th, 2011
3:37 pm

Brooks Conrad? A catcher? Can you imagine the passed ball count?

The Bream Team

April 27th, 2011
3:42 pm

Is this the main game blog?

wjones

April 27th, 2011
3:52 pm

On the subject of herd mentality, it is getting absurd with the 13 pitchers thing. I understand that once one or two successful managers start doing something others follow suit, and I also understand that our bullpen is overworked with all the extra innings and apparently the fact that Lowe’s contract prohibits him from pitching past the sixth. But here’s a radical idea….option down your overworked 12th pitcher and call up another! I know, I know, he has to stay down for 10 days unless there is an injury. I would counter that we probably have two or three pitchers in AAA that we could rotate in and out of the 12th spot, and not have to sacrifice a bench spot. Matt Young could be up as a utility player and pinch runner, instead of having a 13th pitcher who only pitches if we start running out of pitchers. Several of our AAA guys are already on the 40-man, and I don’t believe we have any pitchers out of options (I could be wrong). Again, I know it’s radical, but 10 years ago the idea of a 13-man pitching staff was radical as well.

wjones

April 27th, 2011
3:55 pm

How do we know that Conrad would be a poor defensive catcher? I’m sure if we put McCann or Ross at second base they would make more errors than Conrad there. Freddie Freeman is a terrific first baseman, but he would probably make a ton of errors in CF. I sure wouldn’t mind giving him some instruction there, and it seems like I read somewhere that he had, though I might be mistaken.

FJR

April 27th, 2011
3:59 pm

@wjones,

I think phil’s point wasn’t a dig at the idea of Conrad as an emergency catcher as much as it was a joke about Conrad’s defensive lapses last year.

phil

April 27th, 2011
4:02 pm

That’s right FJR…i just can’t get past the 3 errors in the playoff game….i need counseling….please, no more Conrad at ANY position on a baseball field of any kind or size!! Please.

phil

April 27th, 2011
4:07 pm

I’d almost rather have Heavy Hinske in center….i’m not kidding…I want McOut to succeed and he’s had a good trip overall, but now he’s something like 1 for his last 10, hitting in the low .230s again and misplayed a ball last night….

jch

April 27th, 2011
5:34 pm

For what it’s worth and not to fuel the Conrad to Catcher; McCann to First furor but I do recall hearing Conrad was our “emergency” catcher last year – I would assume that would carry over to this year as well as long as Boscan is in Gwinnett.

I’m still struggling with the thought of benching Freeman for anybody, much less our back-up catcher (nothing against Ross but we need him exactly where he is).

jch

April 27th, 2011
5:42 pm

I was considering Ross’ position last night during the game and, if you think about it, he has a pretty good gig.

It’s true, he may start somewhere else but he’d never be an all-star (not likely anyway) and he definitely isn’t headed for the hall. He plays the most physically demanding position on the diamond and, as a starter, is expected to do so 9 innings/game, day-in and day-out only getting a rest once a week or so.

As is, he makes over $1.6M/year; plays every 5th day or so along with the occasional pinch-hit/late-innings stint. Physically, he can continue doing this for a lot longer than if he were playing every day and still pull down a very nice check.

Sounds like a pretty shrewd dude to me!

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