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McFann Ô Ô
February 28th, 2011
7:44 pm
Soph—
He did, thanks! I trust you did as well…you’re not still at work, are you?
Soph
February 28th, 2011
7:47 pm
Nope, McF – made it home. Interesting drive home.
McFann Ô Ô
February 28th, 2011
7:49 pm
Soph—
That’s good! So did you run into some rough patches?
jeffrey d
February 28th, 2011
7:50 pm
No, don’t worry everyone. I made it home safe.
Trey
February 28th, 2011
7:52 pm
Enjoyed the article, Carroll. I also saw the results of the spring game, and looks like Chipper has gotten off to a quick start in these two games. McLouth also seems to be doing well, so far, hopefully he can silence many of his critics, including me.
Soph
February 28th, 2011
7:52 pm
Visibility stunk in certain areas but overall not bad, McFann. Heard there was hail in certain parts of Gwinnett – mostly near Mall of GA.
Crazy flashes of lightning though. Scares the fudge out of me.
Glen W
February 28th, 2011
7:56 pm
Ok, I think I said this about 1,000 times last year. Stop acting like YE got traded for AG straight up. We did not sale low… we got other value back in the trade that acknowledged that Yunel’s affordable contract merited the Braves getting other compensation in the deal.
jeffrey d
February 28th, 2011
7:57 pm
We did not sale low… we got other value back in the trade that acknowledged that Yunel’s affordable contract merited the Braves getting other compensation in the deal
We got a midget SP who we traded for Derrek Lee who is now gone.
Powder Blue (formerly "I Miss Ted Turner")
February 28th, 2011
7:58 pm
Good to see Lowe’s off to a solid start.
Brava
February 28th, 2011
7:59 pm
That storm scared my 2 Shih Tzus more than me. We laid under the weight bench in the basement for a while, but no damage done.
Anyway, Blair, no way I re-sign McLouth. Any player that can go into a slump that lasts all season is just scary to me. I hope he does well this season and the Braves get something good out of trading him at mid-season. I think that will happen, BTW.
Glen W
February 28th, 2011
8:00 pm
We got a midget SP who we traded for Derrek Lee who is now gone.
Oh sorry, I forgot that he was just a minor leaguer that we traded for Derek Lee. No biggie.
Man, being away from this blog for 5 months is like being away from a soap opera for 5 months. You come back and realize that you did not really miss that much.
McFann Ô Ô
February 28th, 2011
8:00 pm
Soph—
Thankfully we never got any hail…just hard rain, and yeah, the crazy lightening. Scares the crud outta me, too—but I think I got that point across already.
jeffrey d—
Oh, that’s good…I imagine storms are really unpleasant in your line of work—being outdoors and all.
Soph
February 28th, 2011
8:03 pm
RG, I think you’re gonna need this -
http://i55.tinypic.com/nyfhhx.jpg
I made it pink because I know you like “different” things.
Powder Blue (formerly "I Miss Ted Turner")
February 28th, 2011
8:03 pm
“You come back and realize that you did not really miss that much.”
That’s pretty much how I feel. I’m trying to get back into this, but I don’t think it’s gonna’ take.
Brava
February 28th, 2011
8:05 pm
Powder Blue (formerly “I Miss Ted Turner”)
February 28th, 2011
8:03 pm
“You come back and realize that you did not really miss that much.”
That’s pretty much how I feel. I’m trying to get back into this, but I don’t think it’s gonna’ take.
______________
Perhaps, but it’s a good place to hang out and be a fan. At least for me.
Roman Gal
February 28th, 2011
8:06 pm
Soph-
That’s incredibly lovely. I’m going to print it out and put it in my room…somewhere…
Jake W.
February 28th, 2011
8:06 pm
Stop acting like YE got traded for AG straight up. We did not sale low… we got other value back in the trade that acknowledged that Yunel’s affordable contract merited the Braves getting other compensation in the deal.
Who could forget that we threw in Jojo Reyes to sweetin up that deal. Young lefty with a pulse, always attractive to someone.
Soph
February 28th, 2011
8:08 pm
I’m honored. You still owe me a glittery Marteeeeeen cape.
McFann Ô Ô
February 28th, 2011
8:09 pm
Hey, so do you think Fredi’s gonna stick with this playing-McCann-every-other-day thing? ‘Cause if he does, that means BMac’s not gonna play on March 3rd, which is the first televised game…
McFann Ô Ô
February 28th, 2011
8:09 pm
Roman Gal That’s incredibly lovely
Jake W.
February 28th, 2011
8:11 pm
Bibby went from the Wizards to the Heat, cool. Still trying to figure out why we had to give up 3 players and a first round pick for Hinrick and a player sentenced to the end of the bench never to be seen but in garbage time if lucky.
Roman Gal
February 28th, 2011
8:13 pm
You still owe me a glittery Marteeeeeen cape.
I’ll get to work on that right away!
cabravesfan
February 28th, 2011
8:14 pm
Jake W.-
Because in the NBA the monetary value of a trade has to be close to equal on both sides
Soph
February 28th, 2011
8:15 pm
Jake – At least the Hawks have been playing good D the last two games. I know consistency isn’t Atlanta’s highest point but I’ve been impressed recently. Plus, with Bibby gone, Teague gets to start.
Jake W.
February 28th, 2011
8:19 pm
Soph and cabravesfan
Its the draft pick that gets me more than anything. We gave them Bibby, Evans, and Crawford who was our first round pick last year. Not sure why we had to throw in another future first round pick for what we got.
Brava
February 28th, 2011
8:20 pm
RG – I’m glad you’re here. I hope we have no hard feelings over our earlier exchange.
Truth be known, I was an avid Yunel fan. The revelation that the team gave AG a standing ovation when he arrived caused me to rethink this matter. I guess my military background made me understand that, for the Braves, the team is more important than the individual. That helped me to deal with the trade although I was as shocked as any by it.
AG is a very solid and talented SS and I refuse to hold it against him because he was Yunel’s replacement. That isn’t fair to him.
That’s just my take. No hard feelings here. As Ward would say, …peace….
cabravesfan
February 28th, 2011
8:21 pm
Jake-
Most likely because they wanted that pick more then they wanted the players- they’ve already bought out Bibby’s contract…
Soph
February 28th, 2011
8:23 pm
cab, ever heard of Yummy Cupcakes? A cupcake place in Burbank, CA that makes cupcakes in a jar. Watching them on Food Network and it looks gooood.
cabravesfan
February 28th, 2011
8:24 pm
Soph-
Can’t say that I have…there are soooo many designer cupcake places out here now it’s hard to keep them all straight
(Plus, Burbank is not exactly next door… 
)
Roman Gal
February 28th, 2011
8:25 pm
I hope we have no hard feelings over our earlier exchange. Brava
Of course not! If we got mad at every person whose opinion we disagree with, we’d be pretty Dentz. It was just a little frustrating that people kept taking the things I said out of context, but I’m over it. No hard feelings here.
Soph
February 28th, 2011
8:25 pm
Jake, I agree that the Wizards came out on top financially but like cab said, the pick might’ve been what made the trade go through. I wasn’t happy about giving up on JCraw2 though.
With them buying out Bibby’s contract, he’s leaving 6 mil on the table for next season. Guess he really wants to play for a contender. I can respect that.
Brava
February 28th, 2011
8:27 pm
Glad we’re cool, RG.
Soph
February 28th, 2011
8:27 pm
cab, it was interesting. The lady made pancake and bacon cupcakes. Not my cup o’ tea but I admit that’s creative.
cabravesfan
February 28th, 2011
8:27 pm
bacon cupcakes are really popular…I’m dying to try one
Soph
February 28th, 2011
8:29 pm
I wish I could come up with ideas like that. I love to bake but nothing ever comes out right when I try to make up my own recipes.
McFann Ô Ô
February 28th, 2011
8:32 pm
Soph—
Aw, that’s too bad!
cabravesfan
February 28th, 2011
8:35 pm
Soph-
Me too!
Jake W.
February 28th, 2011
8:35 pm
I got no problem with Kirk by the way, just bemoaning the price to get him. We’ve made quite a few changes lately with the Hawks and the team has only improved slightly. Got rid of the coach, no real improvement, now Crawford who I too wanted to see more of and another possible first round pick. Took forever for the Hawks to get just to where they are right now, just don’t want to backtrack.
Soph
February 28th, 2011
8:39 pm
Definitely agree, Jake. Might be my imagination running away from me but it seems like the players don’t always give it a 100%. Sometimes, they seems just a bit too comfortable. Love ‘em but they frustrate me greatly sometimes.
cabravesfan
February 28th, 2011
8:40 pm
Soph-
Have you seen their website? Their menu is 23 pages long…
Soph
February 28th, 2011
8:45 pm
cab, on Food Network they said that the lady has approx 160-something different types of cupcakes.
cabravesfan
February 28th, 2011
8:46 pm
soph-
Sounds about right…some of them sound amazing
Jake W.
February 28th, 2011
8:50 pm
Might be my imagination running away from me but it seems like the players don’t always give it a 100%.
Not your imagination Soph, I see it too and that lack of effort likely cost Woodson his job. When things don’t go their way some players get visibly frustrated and they go away from their game plan. Thats why I was afraid firing the coach wouldn’t be enough to improve this team because to me its the players and their attitude that needed to change the most. This team was more talented than that team that was swept in blowout fashion by the magic but unlike other elite teams they don’t always fight through the tough times, they give up. They aren’t young anymore, time to grow out of that phase. I hear Kirk is the kind of player that doesn’t mind being that tough guy and tells the truth on the court. Maybe thats what we need the most, that attitude that he is bringing.
jeffrey d
February 28th, 2011
9:07 pm
Bacon cupcakes, there’s an idea.
Hey, how about some chocolate gravy?
Home of the Braves
February 28th, 2011
9:09 pm
Lowe’s comments in the secondary blog (or whatever they’re called) make it sound like it really takes a toll on him to throw that slider so much. I wonder if he’ll go all out with it like he did in September from Day 1, or if he’ll ease off it during the season just to maintain stamina through the whole year. I know that sounds ridiculous, but reading his comments, he makes it sound like it takes so much of a toll that he might not last a full season.
Mekons5
February 28th, 2011
9:16 pm
We got a midget SP who we traded for Derrek Lee who is now gone.
Actually, we got Tyler Pastornicky, a SS who is a real prospect. The midget RP, not SP, was traded in the Farnsworth/Ankeil trade. We got more than fair value for Yunel. Particularly since he was going to be traded no matter what. I think the standing ovation Gonzalez got when he showed up speaks volumes about how Yunie’s teammates felt about him.
DS1
February 28th, 2011
9:24 pm
Looks like the blog is getting worked up into season form. Let me say that as much as I totally loved Escobar, I am trying real hard to not hold it against Gonzalez.
(thought you’d like that one RG)
Actually, I am planning to pull for ALL of the team this year.
Brava
February 28th, 2011
9:25 pm
Home of the Braves – I read the same article and came away with none of your concerns. Lowe did not intimate that throwing a slider takes a toll on him. He said he was working on his pitches and would add additional pitches into his repertoire slowly over spring training. That only makes sense and causes me no concern.
Jake W.
February 28th, 2011
9:25 pm
I think the standing ovation Gonzalez got when he showed up speaks volumes about how Yunie’s teammates felt about him.
The infamous standing O. Hopefully the braves actually like Seabass for Seabass and not because he’s just not Yunel. We get it, the boys didn’t play well together in the locker room. Something tells me though the main reason we traded Yunel was because of the lack of production on the field, not the fact that he failed the locker room chemistry test.
jeffrey d
February 28th, 2011
9:29 pm
Crap, that was the Farnsworth deal. And I didn’t realize Pastornicky came with Yunel. So I was wrong on a lot of ends.
Anyway, and I know he’s still young, but I’m not too crazy about Pastornicky. He’s got low average, little power, and strikes out a lot.
richbrave
February 28th, 2011
9:29 pm
Pen problems early in ST. McDOWELL’ll get ‘um straight.
Roman Gal
February 28th, 2011
9:32 pm
Soph-
Your glittery, Christmas-lighty cape: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/5b1yFHSfJjQL3HOgQY_JLTh4YcUTz6PoBNq-_1sKSxs?feat=directlink
jeffrey d
February 28th, 2011
9:33 pm
He also made 12 errors in 83 games at SS last year.
jeffrey d
February 28th, 2011
9:33 pm
Why does Soph look crazy?
Roman Gal
February 28th, 2011
9:35 pm
Let me say that as much as I totally loved Escobar, I am trying real hard to not hold it against Gonzalez.
I was to…until earlier today when it became a little bit harder.
Roman Gal
February 28th, 2011
9:35 pm
Is that a trick question?
richbrave
February 28th, 2011
9:38 pm
Jake W.
February 28th, 2011
8:50 pm
Might be my imagination running away from me but it seems like the players don’t always give it a 100%.
I hear Kirk is the kind of player that doesn’t mind being that tough guy and tells the truth on the court. Maybe thats what we need the most, that attitude that he is bringing.
You hear right. Seeing KIRK on offense and defense for two-thirds of a season was like watching two different teams on the court. KIRK was playing championship ball, and every other WIZARD was either dogging it or wondering where they were supposed to be. He is elated to be out of D.C. I can tell you that. A consumate professional. Never a negative comment about his time in WASHINGTON. He hated it here.
jeffrey d
February 28th, 2011
9:40 pm
I was to…until earlier today when it became a little bit harder.
What happened? Did AG frown?
Is that a trick question?
No….I’m coming in on the tail-end of this conversation.
DS1
February 28th, 2011
9:41 pm
RG
What caused you to turn away from A-Gon today? Just think of him as a loveable little SeaBass!
Roman Gal
February 28th, 2011
9:42 pm
jeffrey d-
Ok, we’ll just call it artist interpretation.
Roman Gal
February 28th, 2011
9:43 pm
As I’ve said in the past, I do ok with AG as long as people don’t try to bash Escobar to put him on a pedestal. That sort of happened today. Plus, I’m not above admitting I’m still bitter over the trade.
nolie
February 28th, 2011
9:46 pm
spirited debates today, or is that just an euphemism for the crazies were out in force today?
jeffrey d
February 28th, 2011
9:46 pm
Did Soph have a crazy meltdown today?
Roman Gal
February 28th, 2011
9:47 pm
nolie-
I was out in full force today. What are you insinuating?
jeffrey d
February 28th, 2011
9:48 pm
Plus, I’m not above admitting I’m still bitter over the trade.
Me either. But it’s in the past and that topic’s been beaten beyond recognition.
Jake W.
February 28th, 2011
9:49 pm
I got no problem with Seabass, although I do admit I cringe a little bit when I see him swing at those awful pitches.
I found proof earlier that Seabass does smile sometimes on the Foxsports videos for the braves. Wish he would do that more. Maybe thats why so many don’t like him on the blog, not enough smiling. He needs to remember thats what got the last ss in bad standing on this blog.
Roman Gal
February 28th, 2011
9:49 pm
Did Soph have a crazy meltdown today?
Not that I know of. Soph was probably one of the more reasonable ones here today.
nolie
February 28th, 2011
9:49 pm
He also made 12 errors in 83 games at SS last yea jeffrey
you’re judging someone’s D on # of errors? Are you still stuck in the 20th Century?
That is sooo 1980
Tom O'Hawke
February 28th, 2011
9:51 pm
nolie-
I was out in full force today. What are you insinuating?
Ha! nolie pulling an O’Hawke!
nolie
February 28th, 2011
9:52 pm
not saying that you were the only crazy out thar today Gal
Frank from KS(now livin in CO)
February 28th, 2011
9:52 pm
raleighbravefan @ 5:00 p.m. – “This is why I say the whole issue is a “dead horse” issue, but then so is Chipper (batting 3rd, injury prone, overpaid vs. still able to contribute, the face of the franchise, a great influence on the team), Bobby (now RETIRED BTW, not that it matters to Don, Robert, et al), the Tex trade, the Wainright trade, and whatever old or irrelevent news we can bring up.”
Can we get a AMEN from the congregation?
LOL
nolie
February 28th, 2011
9:53 pm
That’s OK Tom, I can handle this. RG and I are ol’ buddies, she won’t hurt me too much….
jeffrey d
February 28th, 2011
9:53 pm
That’s about all BaseballReference lists for him. What’s his UZR?
Bat Masterson
February 28th, 2011
9:55 pm
Hey, how about some chocolate gravy?
With some fresh, hot buttermilk biscuits? Count me in.
DS1
February 28th, 2011
9:55 pm
Here’s the deal. I am still hurt because we traded Brett Butler!!!
Folks, that is counter productive. Escobar is the name of a young SS we used to have. He’s not here any more. Our SS is a pretty slick fielding, low OBP, bit of pop player that will not embarrass us on the field this year.
Does it really matter what anybody says about him or the other guy? A-Gone is our SS. From now until he is replaced, he is my FAVORITE SS in all of baseball, because he is OUR SS.
nolie,
Yeah, and folks were tough on Conrad last fall for the same reasons. So 80’s!
nolie
February 28th, 2011
9:55 pm
that’s one of the reasons that we spend a lot of time on other subjects on the night shift I think. All the Braves stuff has already been beaten to a pulp for the most part.
Roman Gal
February 28th, 2011
9:56 pm
she won’t hurt me too much….
So you think! Crazy people tend to do rash things…
Tom O'Hawke
February 28th, 2011
9:56 pm
Yeah, that’s what I say about cabravesfan, nolie. Just the same, I like the 3,000 miles of separation. And the frigid NY weather doesn’t hurt either.
cabravesfan
February 28th, 2011
9:58 pm
I can see you, Thomas
Tom O'Hawke
February 28th, 2011
9:58 pm
Here’s the deal. I am still hurt because we traded Brett Butler!!!
The sit-com actress? Where the hell did she play?
DS1
February 28th, 2011
9:58 pm
Rumor is that Rush Limbaugh and Barack Obama had a beer summit, and both agreed that Alex Gonzalez IS the Braves SS this year! It must be true!
DS1
February 28th, 2011
10:00 pm
RIP the Duke and Jayne Russell!
Tom O'Hawke
February 28th, 2011
10:01 pm
Well, there’s my favorite. How are you, lovely LAdy?
Jake W.
February 28th, 2011
10:02 pm
Rumor is that Rush Limbaugh and Barack Obama had a beer summit, and both agreed that Alex Gonzalez IS the Braves SS this year! It must be true
No I heard that Lovie Smith had a press conference and said Alex “Seabass” Gonzalez is our ss….
Oh and come the beginning of the season one side of this philly is the best team in the world/ the phillies are overrated argument will get to say in Dennis Green style,
“The Phils are who we thought they were…..”
cabravesfan
February 28th, 2011
10:03 pm
Thomas, Thomas, Thomas…already trying to dig out of trouble
Aside from my legs still not wanting to work, I’m not bad- how are you?
DS1
February 28th, 2011
10:03 pm
Jake
Excellent!
Arkansas Transplant
February 28th, 2011
10:05 pm
How’s it going everyone? Looks like the bats were on fire today.
Tom O'Hawke
February 28th, 2011
10:06 pm
I’m fine, cabravesfan. What’s the matter with your legs? Sore from exercise?
DS1
February 28th, 2011
10:07 pm
AT
It’s always nice when our team does well, but it’s really hard to put too much emphasis on an early spring game when these pitchers are trying to get into game shape.
But still, it’s nice for McLouth to get 2 hits and 2 walks today.
cabravesfan
February 28th, 2011
10:08 pm
Tom-
Yeah- did calf stretching on Saturday and still can’t walk right…hurts like hell
nolie
February 28th, 2011
10:09 pm
I have problems with UZR. so I wouldn’t bother posting it if I could find it for the minors.
Unfortunately there is no +/- for down there. From raw data and a few scouting reports he looks to be average to maybe a bit above, and I remember that he pitched some in the 90s so he must have a real good arm.
Worry about his bat some though
Arkansas Transplant
February 28th, 2011
10:09 pm
I’ll take any positives I can take!!
NC State Nate
February 28th, 2011
10:11 pm
That is a great article by Stark but guess what the title is… “Brave’s New World”. I mean who would have guessed?
I challenge one of the national media outlets, meaning someone other than AJC, to write a story about the Braves without the “new world” thing. PLEASE!
Tom O'Hawke
February 28th, 2011
10:12 pm
Really, just stretching? No calf exercises? Sounds like you may have overstretched. You shouldn’t be hurting just from stretching.
richbrave
February 28th, 2011
10:13 pm
Is there a box of today’s game anywhere?
cabravesfan
February 28th, 2011
10:14 pm
Tom-
They were exercises, but it just involved stretching the calves like you would on the edge of a stair or similar for 3 minutes…
cabravesfan
February 28th, 2011
10:15 pm
richbrave-
Probably on ESPN or MLB (or maybe the Braves homepage)
Kat
February 28th, 2011
10:15 pm
richbrave
February 28th, 2011
10:13 pm
Is there a box of today’s game anywhere?
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http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2011_02_28_houmlb_atlmlb_1
Tom O'Hawke
February 28th, 2011
10:15 pm
I’ll take any positives I can take!!
I think that’s a huge positive, AT. Can you imagine what would be going on in McLouth’s head if he starts the first few games of ST with an 0′fer?
DS1
February 28th, 2011
10:15 pm
richbrave
go to the ajc/braves page, and earlier there was a link to the box score….