That’s why I’m not a big fan of Philly fans because they think their Phillies are well immune to such things. We all know that any team can be ravaged by injuries, but apparently Phillies are immune if you talk to them.
I’m not wishing anything on Utley, I hope he is alright because he is one of the only few Philly players I like, but seeing the fans squirm is amusing.
People who think Chipper should not be batting in one of the top three slots in the order simply do not think avoiding outs should be a concern. If you think you’re best or second-best out-avoider should be at the bottom of the order and someone more prone to outs should come up more often, costing your team outs more often, you probably shouldn’t be making comments on blogs. Because no one is going to take you seriously on a baseball-related blog. You just simply don’t know enough about the game. Sorry if that sounds arrogant or brash or whatever but that’s the truth. Call me all the names you want. But I think I’m being pretty objective here.
People who think a .265 batting average is more telling about a player’s offensive value than a .381 on-base percentage represent everything that is wrong with not only baseball but probably the world in general. These are the people that reject objectivity, evidence, logic, reason, science, etc. These type people are the equivalent of the Roman Inquisition who tried Galileo or the Flat Earth Society.
I am going to try to get a radio feed online for game today. Best to go to a radio station site I guess, MLB makes you pay for thier radio feed , don’t they?
yes you pay for mlb radio,but if you have mlb.tv the radio feed is included!
Honestly, I do think it’s a minority that doesn’t appreciate what Chipper still brings to the table. These are mostly people who frankly don’t understand the game in any real depth. These are the people who still think it’s a good idea to primarily judge the success and failure of a player by only his hits in non-sac, non-walk plate appearances. We enlightened fans understand that offense in baseball starts with whether a player makes and out or whether he gets on base. Seems like this should be common sense and shouldn’t require great enlightenment that on-base percentage is the true measure of success and failure. But I think some people just are too intellectually lazy to dig that deeply into the game of baseball or care somewhat about the game but not enough to go beyond what the history books tell them are the important stats instead of relying on logic, reason, facts, evidence, etc.
So the falcons want to put a new open air stadium a block from the dome. That makes sense….
I know Arthur wants a new stadium so he can get more money but why not just build a new dome or retractable roof stadium to take the place of the old dome. No use having two football stadiums that close to each other. If retractable roof is too expensive just build a new dome. I just don’t see us operating two stadiums so close in proximity.
Lew, not necessarily if you “believe” in batting average. Batting average has its value. But if you think batting average is more telling than on-base percentage regarding a player’s offensive value, that type of thinking is what’s wrong with the world. It is anti-logic, anti-reason, anti-evidence, anti-science, anti-curiosity, anti-intellectual, etc.
Lew, and I don’t think that goes for the very casual baseball fans. They are just regurgitating what they’ve heard from baseball history that batting average is the key success/failure stat. They shouldn’t be expected to know better. But folks posting comments on baseball blogs and folks who are getting paid to be baseball reporters and analysts should understand that batting average has value but that on-base should be valued over batting average.
I’m glad that Chipper is using the ignorant, vocal minority and the ignorance of very casual fans as motivation. But hopefully he understands that the more enlightened fans understand that his .381 on-base last season was a lot more meaningful and telling than his .265 batting average. By the way, I think most of the regulars who post on the blog are the more enlightened fans.
It’s strange, I live in Arizona, and I was able to pull up the game from 680, and then they cut away to football talk espn. I buckled down and paid the 20 bucks to get the whole spring training package.
Think about if the Georgia dome was leased to the braves for Big Philly,Cubs,Interleague,mets games. Braves could earn alot more cash and haveing 5-10 games a season in a different venue would be neat… just a idea..
Click on teams on the left and then Braves and it posts all the radio links that normally broadcast the Braves. I’m too lazy to go through them to see if I can find one.
Lew, don’t take it so seriously. A lot of my post was hyperbole for comic effect and to purposely be over-the-top about on-base being more telling than batting average especially with regard to Chipper’s value to the Braves.
Big applause for Chipper, as expected. By the way, it’s not full house. Beautiful Sunday afternoon with Mets in town, and there’s a whole section or two that’s pretty much empty.
Think about if the Georgia dome was leased to the braves for Big Philly,Cubs,Interleague,mets games. Braves could earn alot more cash and haveing 5-10 games a season in a different venue would be neat… just a idea.
I think the braves currently play in one of the largest remaining baseball stadiums. Most new ones are being built with a smaller capacity but Turner Field is one of the last few places that still holds 50,000 plus I think.
Brava – Yeah, it’s like that on XM, too. I listen on XM while watching The Extra Innings package so I can hear Sutton and Powell instead of some of the other team’s guys and there is about a one pitch delay.
Oh, one last comment on Chipper batting third (or even higher): Anyone who thinks it’s somehow a sabermetric viewpoint that Chipper bat lower than third simply misunderstands sabermetrics. If anything, the sabermetric viewpoint is that Chipper should bat higher than third, because of his remarkable on-base ability. And anyone who uses stats to make the argument that Chipper should be batting lower than third aren’t looking at the telling stats.
So basically if you believe in reason and evidence and logic, Chipper should bat third or higher. If you believe Chipper should bat lower, you are anti-reason, anti-evidence, anti-logic or you simply don’t pay enough attention to baseball to have a valid opinion on the issue.
DOB I saw Bowman is starting at third today. I guess the new manager is trying to get the writers more involved in the game. When do you get your start and which position? I see you as a first baseman so you have someone to talk to.
Cy Young will be a Pest all season when he faces us, Bank On It…That was an underrated acquisition by the NY Mess in the offseason…Young is a really good pitcher…
“But he had a stronger message for those who suggest that he’s only playing because of the $28 million he’s owed over these next two seasons”
It’s easy for Chipper to be self righteous and passionate in late February.
I’m not interested in his spring training passion
I’m interested in what he will be like in September – if his choice is to run 10 sets of wind sprints and take another round of ground balls and therbey help the team or to go play eighteen holes, what will he choose
1,253 comments Add your comment
Milt Famey
February 27th, 2011
12:56 pm
Here’s a toast to Frank Wren. He has filled the management of the organization with quality baseball men and an excellent roster with great chemistry.
BravesFanChris26
February 27th, 2011
12:57 pm
Lew
That’s why I’m not a big fan of Philly fans because they think their Phillies are well immune to such things. We all know that any team can be ravaged by injuries, but apparently Phillies are immune if you talk to them.
I’m not wishing anything on Utley, I hope he is alright because he is one of the only few Philly players I like, but seeing the fans squirm is amusing.
Shaun
February 27th, 2011
12:57 pm
People who think Chipper should not be batting in one of the top three slots in the order simply do not think avoiding outs should be a concern. If you think you’re best or second-best out-avoider should be at the bottom of the order and someone more prone to outs should come up more often, costing your team outs more often, you probably shouldn’t be making comments on blogs. Because no one is going to take you seriously on a baseball-related blog. You just simply don’t know enough about the game. Sorry if that sounds arrogant or brash or whatever but that’s the truth. Call me all the names you want. But I think I’m being pretty objective here.
People who think a .265 batting average is more telling about a player’s offensive value than a .381 on-base percentage represent everything that is wrong with not only baseball but probably the world in general. These are the people that reject objectivity, evidence, logic, reason, science, etc. These type people are the equivalent of the Roman Inquisition who tried Galileo or the Flat Earth Society.
Mixxo
February 27th, 2011
12:58 pm
See, I knew DOB was toying with us.
BravesFanChris26
February 27th, 2011
1:00 pm
DOB
Has someone just concluded the National Anthem?
Just wanna make sure my radio feed is in sync.
Bravefaninok
February 27th, 2011
1:00 pm
LTBF
February 27th, 2011
12:48 pm
I am going to try to get a radio feed online for game today. Best to go to a radio station site I guess, MLB makes you pay for thier radio feed , don’t they?
yes you pay for mlb radio,but if you have mlb.tv the radio feed is included!
BravesFanChris26
February 27th, 2011
1:00 pm
Radio guy said Beachy and Minor are to follow Lopez.
Lew
February 27th, 2011
1:01 pm
Chris26 – they been freaking over Cliff Lee’s strained latissimus dorsai muscle under his arm?
BravesFanChris26
February 27th, 2011
1:01 pm
UGH
BSPN commercials.
Bravefaninok
February 27th, 2011
1:02 pm
I think the gameday audio package is like $19.99 for the season as well
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:02 pm
Who Commentates on the YES Games other than Michael Kay?
Lew
February 27th, 2011
1:03 pm
Shaun – If you believe in Batting Average you’re part of what is wrong with the world? Right.
Lew
February 27th, 2011
1:04 pm
That has got to be one of the most over the top, full of BS statements ever uttered on this blog – or anywhere else for that matter.
Shaun
February 27th, 2011
1:04 pm
Honestly, I do think it’s a minority that doesn’t appreciate what Chipper still brings to the table. These are mostly people who frankly don’t understand the game in any real depth. These are the people who still think it’s a good idea to primarily judge the success and failure of a player by only his hits in non-sac, non-walk plate appearances. We enlightened fans understand that offense in baseball starts with whether a player makes and out or whether he gets on base. Seems like this should be common sense and shouldn’t require great enlightenment that on-base percentage is the true measure of success and failure. But I think some people just are too intellectually lazy to dig that deeply into the game of baseball or care somewhat about the game but not enough to go beyond what the history books tell them are the important stats instead of relying on logic, reason, facts, evidence, etc.
BravesFanChris26
February 27th, 2011
1:04 pm
Lew
Yeah, they freak over anything slightly remotely dealing with a hangnail much less a significant injury.
Fargo
February 27th, 2011
1:04 pm
Does anyone know of a radio stream? my usual feed isn’t carrying the game today…
Jake W.
February 27th, 2011
1:05 pm
So the falcons want to put a new open air stadium a block from the dome. That makes sense….
I know Arthur wants a new stadium so he can get more money but why not just build a new dome or retractable roof stadium to take the place of the old dome. No use having two football stadiums that close to each other. If retractable roof is too expensive just build a new dome. I just don’t see us operating two stadiums so close in proximity.
Shaun
February 27th, 2011
1:05 pm
Lew, not necessarily if you “believe” in batting average. Batting average has its value. But if you think batting average is more telling than on-base percentage regarding a player’s offensive value, that type of thinking is what’s wrong with the world. It is anti-logic, anti-reason, anti-evidence, anti-science, anti-curiosity, anti-intellectual, etc.
BravesFanChris26
February 27th, 2011
1:06 pm
680thefan has football talk on now BOOOOOOOOO.
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:06 pm
@D.O.B.
Lol, in that 12:51 post
Lew
February 27th, 2011
1:07 pm
Shaun – Over the top, most BS statement ever uttered on this blog. Comparing it to the SPANISH Inquisition? Seriously?
Bravefaninok
February 27th, 2011
1:07 pm
http://www.680thefan.com/
David O'Brien
February 27th, 2011
1:07 pm
Rodrigo Lopez fell behind 3-0 to start against leadoff hitter Willie (Kill Braves) Harris. It’s 3-2 now
Lew
February 27th, 2011
1:07 pm
Shaun – The Blog’s Illuminati.
Jake W.
February 27th, 2011
1:08 pm
680thefan has football talk on now BOOOOOOOOO.
If you’re in the Atlanta area you’ll have to listen on the radio, not the internet. Don’t know about folks outside the area.
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:09 pm
Dammit, I’m trying to find a radio link as well…I might have to listen to 93.7
Soph
February 27th, 2011
1:10 pm
Yeah, online link for 680’s not providing the game today for me. Had to pull out my handy dandy radio.
ColoradoBravesFan
February 27th, 2011
1:11 pm
Does any one have a link for the Braves game on radio? I tried 680 the fan and it’s espn radio.
Shaun
February 27th, 2011
1:11 pm
Lew, and I don’t think that goes for the very casual baseball fans. They are just regurgitating what they’ve heard from baseball history that batting average is the key success/failure stat. They shouldn’t be expected to know better. But folks posting comments on baseball blogs and folks who are getting paid to be baseball reporters and analysts should understand that batting average has value but that on-base should be valued over batting average.
I’m glad that Chipper is using the ignorant, vocal minority and the ignorance of very casual fans as motivation. But hopefully he understands that the more enlightened fans understand that his .381 on-base last season was a lot more meaningful and telling than his .265 batting average. By the way, I think most of the regulars who post on the blog are the more enlightened fans.
shmoe
February 27th, 2011
1:11 pm
uggla makes the play!
choppertochipper
February 27th, 2011
1:11 pm
It’s strange, I live in Arizona, and I was able to pull up the game from 680, and then they cut away to football talk espn. I buckled down and paid the 20 bucks to get the whole spring training package.
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:11 pm
Ike Davis may’ve been the most underrated rookie last year
Nice leadoff inning
Matt
February 27th, 2011
1:12 pm
Think about if the Georgia dome was leased to the braves for Big Philly,Cubs,Interleague,mets games. Braves could earn alot more cash and haveing 5-10 games a season in a different venue would be neat… just a idea..
Soph
February 27th, 2011
1:13 pm
You may be able to find a link on http://www.freebaseballradio.com.
Click on teams on the left and then Braves and it posts all the radio links that normally broadcast the Braves. I’m too lazy to go through them to see if I can find one.
Matt
February 27th, 2011
1:13 pm
Largest attended baseball game ever played was at a football field…
Shaun
February 27th, 2011
1:13 pm
Lew, don’t take it so seriously. A lot of my post was hyperbole for comic effect and to purposely be over-the-top about on-base being more telling than batting average especially with regard to Chipper’s value to the Braves.
shmoe
February 27th, 2011
1:13 pm
shaun…you forgot anti-christ and anti-baby-kittens lol
shmoe
February 27th, 2011
1:14 pm
anyone have the pitching lineup for braves today?
A.J.
February 27th, 2011
1:14 pm
I was being serious. How long does it typically take to write a full blog like this?
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:15 pm
Soph
“Yeah, online link for 680’s not providing the game today for me. Had to pull out my handy dandy radio.”
Me Too, i had to whip out my throwback MP3 player..good thing is I have my songs uploaded on it for commercial breaks…
I love that Martini is coming out to Jimi Hendrix
cabravesfan
February 27th, 2011
1:15 pm
WGMK 106.3 on freebaseballradio seems to be working…
Lew
February 27th, 2011
1:15 pm
Shaun – Dude, you don’t do comic relief well at all.
Lew
February 27th, 2011
1:15 pm
At least not intentionally.
Matt
February 27th, 2011
1:15 pm
ahhh who cares how long it takes to be happy the man does it gesh..
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:16 pm
I love the fact that Schafer is bunting…
Brava
February 27th, 2011
1:16 pm
Gameday is about useless. It’s so far behind the audio.
David O'Brien
February 27th, 2011
1:16 pm
Big applause for Chipper, as expected. By the way, it’s not full house. Beautiful Sunday afternoon with Mets in town, and there’s a whole section or two that’s pretty much empty.
cabravesfan
February 27th, 2011
1:16 pm
rockin1063.com if you want to try the station directly
Jake W.
February 27th, 2011
1:16 pm
Think about if the Georgia dome was leased to the braves for Big Philly,Cubs,Interleague,mets games. Braves could earn alot more cash and haveing 5-10 games a season in a different venue would be neat… just a idea.
I think the braves currently play in one of the largest remaining baseball stadiums. Most new ones are being built with a smaller capacity but Turner Field is one of the last few places that still holds 50,000 plus I think.
rob from sc
February 27th, 2011
1:17 pm
At least Schafer is working on his bunting…Not going well but he is trying.
BravesFanChris26
February 27th, 2011
1:17 pm
YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
I got radio feed.
Lew
February 27th, 2011
1:17 pm
Brava – Yeah, it’s like that on XM, too. I listen on XM while watching The Extra Innings package so I can hear Sutton and Powell instead of some of the other team’s guys and there is about a one pitch delay.
Kat
February 27th, 2011
1:19 pm
For those who can’t get it to work on 680.. try listening on 730AM….
http://www.730ump.com/
Brava
February 27th, 2011
1:19 pm
You’d think with the technology available they could do better, Lew.
LuisG
February 27th, 2011
1:22 pm
Thank you Kat!
Mixxo
February 27th, 2011
1:22 pm
You may be able to find a link on http://www.freebaseballradio.com. – Soph
The first link works (106.3)……not the cleanest feed, but it works. Thx.
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:23 pm
Hell Yeah, Nice DP
MIBravesFan
February 27th, 2011
1:23 pm
Yeah Freddie!
Shaun
February 27th, 2011
1:24 pm
Oh, one last comment on Chipper batting third (or even higher): Anyone who thinks it’s somehow a sabermetric viewpoint that Chipper bat lower than third simply misunderstands sabermetrics. If anything, the sabermetric viewpoint is that Chipper should bat higher than third, because of his remarkable on-base ability. And anyone who uses stats to make the argument that Chipper should be batting lower than third aren’t looking at the telling stats.
So basically if you believe in reason and evidence and logic, Chipper should bat third or higher. If you believe Chipper should bat lower, you are anti-reason, anti-evidence, anti-logic or you simply don’t pay enough attention to baseball to have a valid opinion on the issue.
Mixxo
February 27th, 2011
1:24 pm
Kat – Thanks! Much better feed there.
BravesFanChris26
February 27th, 2011
1:24 pm
I am using feed that cabravesfan posted. It’s in sync with everything
abwright
February 27th, 2011
1:24 pm
Braves … top of first
Lead Off Guy … fly to OF
Schafer … Didn’t beat out bunt single
Chipper … called out on a close 3-2 pitch
Bottom of first
Hairston … lead off in field single off Gonzalez glove
Next guy … fly out to Schafer
Freeman to Gonzalez to Lopez for double play to end the inning.
Mixxo
February 27th, 2011
1:24 pm
Freeman….great hands!
P'cola Brave
February 27th, 2011
1:25 pm
Nice play by #5.
Mixxo
February 27th, 2011
1:26 pm
Mr. Uggla says not to expect much early.
abwright
February 27th, 2011
1:27 pm
Uggla to the plate against Chris Young.
BravesFanChris26
February 27th, 2011
1:27 pm
Lets go Uggla!
rob from sc
February 27th, 2011
1:27 pm
can anyone give paly by play
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:28 pm
It Seems like a lot of the online feeds are about 25 seconds slower than the radio feed on 93.7 here in “A” (Atlanta), so I will keep the radio feed…
What Is That Music that Fab 5 Freddie is coming out to…? its horrible
Mixxo
February 27th, 2011
1:28 pm
2-2 count
ColoradoBravesFan
February 27th, 2011
1:28 pm
SOPH… Thanks for the freebaseball link It is working.
GO BRAVOS
williamva
February 27th, 2011
1:28 pm
DOB I saw Bowman is starting at third today. I guess the new manager is trying to get the writers more involved in the game. When do you get your start and which position? I see you as a first baseman so you have someone to talk to.
abwright
February 27th, 2011
1:28 pm
Chopper to 2nd for an out off Uggla’s bat.
Mixxo
February 27th, 2011
1:29 pm
Uggla grounds out
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:29 pm
Did anyone notice if Fab 5 Freddie Choked up on the bast last year…I don’t think he did?
abwright
February 27th, 2011
1:31 pm
Freeman strikes out swinging.
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:31 pm
Cy Young will be a Pest all season when he faces us, Bank On It…That was an underrated acquisition by the NY Mess in the offseason…Young is a really good pitcher…
Mixxo
February 27th, 2011
1:32 pm
FF k’s.
David O'Brien
February 27th, 2011
1:32 pm
Gonzo flied out to LF warning track to end second inning
abwright
February 27th, 2011
1:33 pm
Gonzalez flies out to the warning track to end the bottom of the second.
BravesFanChris26
February 27th, 2011
1:33 pm
Alex pops out. Ends the inning.
jeffrey d
February 27th, 2011
1:33 pm
Exciting…thanks for the Sunday blog, DOB
McFann Ô Ô
February 27th, 2011
1:33 pm
Freeman got out? Sheesh…what’s up with that?
David O'Brien
February 27th, 2011
1:34 pm
Mike Minor in to pitch 3rd for Bravos
BravesFanChris26
February 27th, 2011
1:35 pm
So Rodrigo Lopez did fairly well I suppose.
P'cola Brave
February 27th, 2011
1:35 pm
T’Hawk
Couldn’t agree more. Chris Young can be filthy when hes healthy.
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:35 pm
Valetino Pascucci wasonce a can’t miss prospect with Montreal…I wonder what happened to him?
abwright
February 27th, 2011
1:35 pm
Lopez pitched two scoreless.
Mike Minor stands in to take the next two innings.
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:37 pm
M&M
Looking good…
Kat
February 27th, 2011
1:37 pm
What is with these sound effects.. they’re pretty bad haha.
Robert
February 27th, 2011
1:38 pm
“But he had a stronger message for those who suggest that he’s only playing because of the $28 million he’s owed over these next two seasons”
It’s easy for Chipper to be self righteous and passionate in late February.
I’m not interested in his spring training passion
I’m interested in what he will be like in September – if his choice is to run 10 sets of wind sprints and take another round of ground balls and therbey help the team or to go play eighteen holes, what will he choose
BravesFanChris26
February 27th, 2011
1:38 pm
2 up 2 down
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:38 pm
I love Quick Spring games…
P'cola Brave
February 27th, 2011
1:39 pm
Has anyone had a hit yet?
BravesFanChris26
February 27th, 2011
1:39 pm
Uno, Dos, Tres inning over!
abwright
February 27th, 2011
1:39 pm
Two ground outs and a fly out to Prado finish the Mets off in the top of the third.
jim Pierce
February 27th, 2011
1:39 pm
http://player.cumulusstreaming.com/SLPLayer.aspx?WUMP-AM
got the game here ^
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:39 pm
S/o To Robert
Whats Happenin Chief?
abwright
February 27th, 2011
1:40 pm
Minor’s fast ball touched 92 on the gun, which led the announcers to remark about his improved velocity.
Tomahawkin
February 27th, 2011
1:41 pm
Rossy Had an “Off Year” last year but with that said the dude is the best backup catcher in the league!