Braves’ voluntary pre-spring pitching camp starts Monday

The Braves begin Coach Roger McDowell’s voluntary two-week pitching camp Monday at Turner Field.

Pitchers will use the two weeks leading up to spring training to throw bullpen sessions, typically every other day, to continue building up arm strength. Braves pitchers and catchers report to spring training on Monday, Feb. 14 and begin workouts the following day.

Among pitchers who either live in the area or are in town for the Braves caravan and are expected to participate are: Tim Hudson, Tommy Hanson, Peter Moylan, Eric O’Flaherty, Craig Kimbrel, Brandon Beachy, Mike Minor, Scott Linebrink, George Sherrill, and Cory Gearrin.

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Keith King

January 29th, 2011
8:09 pm

Can fans stop by and spectate?

NYC_Brave

January 29th, 2011
8:14 pm

April can’t come soon enough. Make sure to pass along some pictures of sunny Orlando, DOB. I’m buried in 6 foot mounds of grey snow up here in New York and I could use a little of that Florida weather.

Steve From Dalton

January 29th, 2011
8:19 pm

Pretty weak lineup on the Braves Caravan to Chattanooga:
George Sherrill
Eric O’Flaherty
Cory Gearrin
Jordan Schafer
Eddie Perez
Frank Wren

55 yr FAN

January 29th, 2011
8:26 pm

Please team a new play by play announcer with Joe Simpson this year. I love the Braves and have for a long time but I swear if you bring back CC I am going to fill my time in a better way.
Thanks, Lifelong fan.

Keith King

January 29th, 2011
8:27 pm

@DaltonSteve I totally agree. That’s why I am trying to make 3 other dates. (already made it to the Athens signing)

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bravofan

January 29th, 2011
8:38 pm

Keith: pretty sure that’s a negative!

justin1

January 29th, 2011
10:29 pm

Absolutely cannot wait til spring. Its been an extremely long winter. I dont care how many lineups I, and everyone else on here, have posted. Im doing it again. This lineup is THE winning formula for a successful offensive season:
1. Schafer
2. Prado
3. Chipper
4. Uggla
5. Mac
6. Heyward
7. Freeman
8. Gonzo
Now some might say “Why in the world are you putting Schafer in the leadoff spot? Let alone in the starting lineup?” Well, he is still the Braves’ future. If the organization hasn’t seen anything to deter them from keeping him, then I still believe he can be a major leaguer. Also he is and always has been a leadoff man. Prado has been great for us in the 1-hole yet, he is not a leadoff hitter. Prado is the PERFECT 2-hole hitter. Of course, if he struggles, then you assume this lineup:
1. Prado
2. Chipper
3. Mac
4. Uggla
5. Heyward
6. Freeman
7. Gonzo
8. Nate/Schafer
At this point, Mac would be a great 3 hole option. Not saying that Chipper couldnt do it still, but with Chipper’s ability to get on base, not to mention his BA alone, he would be a good 2 hole guy as well. Mac has gotten better each year at getting on base via hit or walk. People focus too much, in my opinion, on the leadoff position. I agree it is a very important spot, but the 2-hole is overlooked. We need 2 high on base guys at 1 and 2.

justin1

January 29th, 2011
10:32 pm

And if you want to be a complete pessimist:
1. Prado
2. Nate (Until he proves otherwise)
3. Mac
4. Uggla
5. Heward
6. Freeman
7. Mather/Ski
8. Gonzo

Smiling Jack

January 29th, 2011
10:48 pm

With Atlanta weather like today and tomorrow, let the season begin! WOW it gets exciting doesn’t it as we look forward to a spring and summer of baseball and hopefully a full fall postseason! A World Series maybe? GO BRAVES!!!

DHD

January 29th, 2011
10:51 pm

Nate
Prado
Heyward
Uggla
Chipper
Mac
Gonzo
Freddie

Billy Jack's Barbecue & Shrimp Co.

January 29th, 2011
11:21 pm

I would term this voluntary camp a “light” version. Missing about 40% of the projected staff who are either starters (i.e. Lowe, Jurrjens) or relievers we are counting on to play a huge role (i.e. Venters and perhaps Proctor).

So Cal Brave

January 29th, 2011
11:41 pm

justin1, why would you have 3 lefties in a row?
Our line up will be:
Prado
McLouth
Chipper
McCann
Uggla
Hayward
Gonzalez
Freeman.
This line up is what Freddy is going with, unless something happens during S/T that makes him change his mind.

Trey

January 29th, 2011
11:47 pm

Interesting. Looking forward to this.

Larry

January 30th, 2011
1:50 am

Best thing about the Braves line up is that T-BALL won’t be there to screw up their hitting.He will just get them caught stealing. Washington will still dominate the Braves. LaRoche will continue where Dunn left off.

Norman Cochran

January 30th, 2011
6:16 am

My suggested lineup is as follows:

Prado, LF
McLouth, CF
Heyward, RF
Uggla, 2b
Jones, 3b
McCann, C
Freeman, 1b
Gonzales, SS

MitchC

January 30th, 2011
8:00 am

I don’t think I’ve ever looked forward to baseball season more than this year. I live in the North East, where we have been ravaged by cold and snow all winter. The words “Pitchers and Catchers”, show us that spring is, thankfully, not far away.

Play ball!

nickz

January 30th, 2011
8:07 am

Prado
Heyward
Chipper
Mac
Uggla
Gonzales
Freeman
McLouth

That’s probably openingday lineup…

jimmy a

January 30th, 2011
9:02 am

tinking gonzales better get it together to many strikeouts and ground balls to many feilding errows lot of shortstops in minors waiting

jimiz

January 30th, 2011
10:06 am

My turn at a line up. i think some of us are missing alittle. i have mine alittle different.

1. nate L
2.prodo r
3. heyward L
4.chipper sh
5.mcann L
6. uggla L
7. gonzo r
8. freemen L
I think this line up will produce the most for Freddy G.

jimiz

January 30th, 2011
10:11 am

I think that with all the lefthand power we have. maybe the braves would think about moven up the fence about 5 feet. would help us i believe.

BraveMan

January 30th, 2011
10:22 am

Braves’ Caravan in Greenville, SC is pretty weak too: Tommy Hanson, Cory Gearrin, Brooks Conrad, Carlos Tosca.

MPIMENTEL

January 30th, 2011
10:54 am

uggla is a right hand

BravesFan27

January 30th, 2011
11:09 am

Speaking of Lineups,here are my thoughts. PLEASE,FG, take Chipper Jones out of the 3 spot!!! Chipper is no longer a number 3 hitter. His bat speed is slower and he is no longer a 30-40 home run hitter. With that being said. Here is my lineup:

1.McLouth/Schafer
2.Prado
3.Heyward
4.Uggla
5.McCain
6.Chipper
7.Gonzo
8.Freeman
That lineup provides you the potential (depending on which side Chipper bats from) to go left-right all the way through the order.

xharmonx

January 30th, 2011
11:10 am

i went to the auburn caravan yesterday it was hudson,conrad,beachy,and snitker

ryan c

January 30th, 2011
11:25 am

Schafer has a lot to prove before being inserted into the lineup, much less the leadoff position. Since being demoted, he’s had 87 games of an injury plagued sub-.600 ops. Sure, McLouth had an utterly horrible year last year, but let’s not forget that Nate had 3 very successful years in the MAJOR LEAGUES prior to last year compared to Schafer’s 2 successful year in the MINOR LEAGUES 2 years ago.

Nate deserves the spot. If Jordan wins it later (not during Spring where smokescreen stats fly because subpar pitchers are throwing their subpar stuff), then so be it. Matt Young must feel like the red-headed stepchild. I mean, he’s only had 3 straight years of success in the minor leagues with above average speed, and yet Jordan Schafer is in the talks here for leadoff hitter when he hasn’t had success in 2 years.

Madness!

justin1

January 30th, 2011
11:28 am

I’m telling you, my lineup would click. Those arent just 3 lefties in a row. Those are 3 lefties who can mash against southpaws. My guess would be about 85% of the leagues starters are right handed anyway, so if youre concerned about 3 lefties in a row, dont be. And if we are facing a tough lefty, tinker with it a bit and move gonzo up in the order. People, have you ever been a left handed hitter and faced a lefthanded pitcher?? Well, I have and it’s not as difficult as ppl get wrapped up in. Given, Ive never faced major league pitching ( or MiIB pitching for that matter) but dont worry too much about Heyward, Freeman, and Mac hitting lefties. They’ll be just fine. Just look at Phillies’ lineup….

justin1

January 30th, 2011
11:33 am

Starters: Huddy, Lowe, Hanson, JJ, Minor
Lineup: Schafer, Prado, Chipper, Uggla, Mac, Heyward, Freeman, Gonzo
Bench: Nate, Hinske, Mather, Ross, Diory
Bullpen: Moylan, Venters, O’Flerhety, Kimbrell, Sherrill, Linebrink, Proctor

That WILL be our opening day 25 man roster.

David O'Brien

January 30th, 2011
11:34 am

I’m telling you, my lineup would click. Those arent just 3 lefties in a row. Those are 3 lefties who can mash against southpaws. My guess would be about 85% of the leagues starters are right handed anyway, so if youre concerned about 3 lefties in a row, dont be. — justin1

The manager is not likely to put three good left-handed hitters in a row in his lineup — unless he has no better options. Why would you put three good lefties in a row, thereby allowing an opposing manager to bring in his situational lefty to face all of them in a situation with the game on the line, without that pitcher having to face any right-handed hitter?

bvillebaron

January 30th, 2011
12:05 pm

ryan c:

How many games has Matt Young played in the big leagues? That would be exactly zero. Young is 28 years old and has spent 6 years in the minors. Did it ever occur to you that there is a reason he never got even a cup of coffee in the bigs before despite that much time in the minors?

Schafer is only 24 and looked pretty darn good in the bigs before he injured his wrist and ultimately had to have surgery. No one knows if Schafer can return to his form before the injury, but I for one can understand why his name comes up before Matt Young. Besides, if Young is all that you believe him to be, he will get his chance to prove it this spring.

justin1

January 30th, 2011
12:18 pm

Good point DOB.
Now I will ask you to pencil in your lineup…….

IHEARTCARROLL

January 30th, 2011
12:31 pm

Hi Ms. Rogers,

I read somewhere that KK would compete in spring training (with little shot of making the team).

Are other teams waiting to see how he performs or just waiting to see how much salary the Braves will eat?

Thanks.

Fastball

January 30th, 2011
12:45 pm

I like Chip Caray.

Bobby Cox is Da Man

January 30th, 2011
1:19 pm

Write it down, McClouth has a bounce back year like say .260 20 hrs 80 RBIs and 15 steals. The guy had an off year, it’s not like his talent left him. This will be key for the Bravos…

Horner's Corner

January 30th, 2011
3:04 pm

bvillebaron-

Matt Young not getting a shot in the ML’s has nothing to do with his baseball ability , rather it has everything to do with his unconventional size. That’s right, the guy’s tiny. He’s is listed at 5′ 8″ and I would bet he actually goes 5′ 5″. No matter, he is a really good player. Which guy would you give a shot to based on his minor league numbers?

Player #1
PA-3,209 H-779 BB-413 SO-362 AVG-.289 OBP.390 SLG-.385 OPS-.775
Steals last 3 seasons – 30/43/39

Player #2
PA-1,942 H-449 BB-174 SO-432 AVG-.258 OBP-.326 SLG-.416 OPS-.742
Steals last 3 seasons – 12/3/12

The first player is Matt Young and the second is Schafer. And by the way, approx. 60% of Young’s minor league plate appearances have been at either the AA or AAA level, where as only 33% of Schafer’s PA’s have been. Not saying Young is the next Willie Mays, but he has done far more to prove himself in the minors than Schafer has to date.

CharlieAlphaBravo

January 30th, 2011
4:41 pm

My pre spring training lineup:

1. McClouth
2. Prado
3. Chipper
4. Mac
5. Uggla
6. Heyward
7. Gonzo
8. Freeman

This would be the lineup vs. RHP, and Mac and Uggla would switch vs. LHP.

McClouth’s spot at the top would be contingent on a promising performance in spring training. Schafer could certainly emerge this spring as a legit leadoff hitter if he can return to Spring ‘09 form.

If all that fails, Prado could lead-off and Chipper might slide into the 2-hole. Perhaps focusing on contact and limiting his power swings would keep those pesky obliques in order.

I’m pretty sure a similar lineup was posted by either Carroll or DOB, but it’s the only one that makes much sense. “What Freddi likes” remains to be seen. Wow, it still hasn’t truly hit me yet that Bobby is gone…

Now if we could only convince U2 to play in south Florida for each series we’re supposed to be visiting. That’d give us nine extra home games. I think we just may have found what we’re looking for…

chief noc-a-homa

January 30th, 2011
5:05 pm

jajaajaja Schaffer ????? nooooooo forget that schaffer dont have a place in this team .,….

25 man roster for Opening day

Catchers : McCann, Ross
Infielders: Jones,Hernandez,Gonzalez,Conrad,Uggla,Freeman,Hinske
Outfielders: Prado,McLouth, Heyward,Mather

maybe a surprise and Matt Young take the spot for Mather :P

Starting Rotation: Hudson,Hanson,Lowe,Jurrjens,Minor
Long Relieve Pitcher; Beachy
Middle Relieve Pitchers: Moylan, O’Flaherty, Sherrill, Linebrink,
Set-Up: Venters
Closer: Kimbrel

( And….If Wagner have a great idea to return in some moment of the season all people go crazy :) )

maybe wagner take the beachy or linebrink in roster spot

LINEUP :

1-Prado LF
2-Heyward RF
3- C.Jones 3B
4-McCann/Uggla C/2B
5-Uggla/McCann 2B/C
6- Gonzalez SS
7-Freeman 1B
8-McClouth CF
9- Pitcher Spot

ryan c

January 30th, 2011
6:21 pm

bvillebaron…
just an utterly horrible argument. you discount matt’s 6 years in the minors and credit schafer’s one week in the majors (which it was…his stats in the majors after one week of fast balls were atrocious, even pre-injury). discounting 3000 atbats for 22.

forget what i said earlier. that wasnt madness. this is madness.

Biff Pocoroba

January 30th, 2011
7:09 pm

If Chipper would retire and Frank Wren could unload Derek Lowe’s contract, Albert Pujols in a Braves’ uniform could be reality after the 2011 season !

Sugar Bear Blanks

January 30th, 2011
7:12 pm

Jordan Schafer hasn’t demonstrated what he can do on the minor league level, let alone the majors. Yeah, we all remember opening day weekend in 2009. It was an illusion, just like the one Braves’ fans are seeing who think Schafer will be anywhere other than the minors in 2011.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

January 30th, 2011
7:45 pm

not sure why everyone thinks schafer will even make the lineup. he’s horrible folks, don’t any of you have a memory of what he was for this team?

Bigwheel

January 30th, 2011
8:02 pm

Biff Pocoroba-ZZZZZzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzz

justafan

January 30th, 2011
10:36 pm

Agree with ryan c and Horner’s corner on Schafer..Give Young a chance, he deserves it. Stop the good old boy crap. Schafer has proved nothing except–he had 6 good weeks of Spring training and couple weeks in bigs. Injury are not he need time in AAA.

Buckeye Brave

January 30th, 2011
10:55 pm

What’s with the Jordan Schafer haters? He broke his wrist for crying out loud! His minor league stats from the last two years suck b/c recovery from this surgery takes a long time. Have you Schafer hating fools not been reading DOB’s blog this winter?

santa3247

January 31st, 2011
12:26 am

The God’s people over the world do you know so called The principle of conservation of energy? Yeah this is important. Why? this is directly connected with the climate change.

The Geomagnetic field is the resource of resonance schumann(Neutron), so the more fiercly Babylon’s friends would use R.S, the more quickly the resource of R.S. would disappear from earth.

Under the geomagnetic field, plus & minus can exist, so eletricity can exist and electric wave too. And under no magnetic field, no electricity & electric wave can exist. And whole flying object like airplane would stop activating under no magneticfield, why? just onetime of being under no magneticfield, all electric machine don’t activate eternally. From past to now NASA & USArmy have been receiving the electric signal of virtual world from neutron radiator, not from satelite which can’t activate without magneticfield at all.

Precisely speaking, Earth is motor and Geomagneticfield is magnet, for this reducing magnet, the selfspinning of earth losing now the RPM. As a result of that, whole energy from sky such as sun’s heat & moon’s coldness per unit area is exploding, therefore global warming together with Ice Age coming near to us.

And furthermore the energy from Magma rapidly growing up. So gradually here and there Volcano erupt now for fiercing pressure from Magma, the stablization between Magma & Mentle broke down. You got it?

Do you know Andes Mountains’s gigantic salt field? Death Sea of Israel? by stopping self-spining of earth, the tide of Oceans did overspread toward east direction. You got it? And you can easily find the unbelievable proof of Ocean’s attack on the geologic layer over the world.

After all, the reducing geomagnetic field is the culprit of whole kind of disasters & the climate change on earth and the owner of neutron radiator is Babylon Empire. Do you remember the horn of Satan? milstone shaped one on top of hill on Babylon’s great city?

If you could not destroy this milstone shaped horn of satan, almost human race must be exterminated, but for people qualified for Messianic Era & children not need to be qualified for Messianic Era.

Do move together with whole nations of Europe Union, the returned king Arthur! You are immortal and don’t worry about thing like that.

Now the only enemy of human race is Babylon. In first the system of Babylon is target. For the purpose of destroying the system, you have to exterminate Neutron Radiator. And the virtual world must disappear from earth. After that, we can solve the problem of devils.

May the force of Messiah be with you

Knight

January 31st, 2011
7:00 am

Schafer’s minor league numbers BEFORE the wrist injury were nothing to write home about either, and he was on steroids then.

Hopefully Wren has a real backup option when McLouth stinks it up again.

Knight

January 31st, 2011
7:05 am

Schafer’s Class A stats from 2007 were impressive on steroids, but he’s done nothing since. This is 2011 and Class A and the major leagues aren’t comparable.

Time to move on !

Braveman n Orlando

January 31st, 2011
7:29 am

Too cool to see all the lineup debates! It shows a lot of interest in the team. No matter who’s lineup is right, wrong, crazy ludacris….whatever. It’s all good. it would be great if that interest poured over into the stadium. I have my Spring Training tickets. I’m catching a few games at Diz an then a few more when the Braves travel to other parks. There’s nothing like sitting back with a Coke and a dog and watching all the stars and wanna be’s taking BP up close and personal. I can’t wait!
Go Braves 2011!

Hooter Girl

January 31st, 2011
7:43 am

Damn Santa, some acid trip.

Jordan Schafer's Mama

January 31st, 2011
8:05 am

Stop hating on my boy!

Jordie has been working hard this offseason with Terry Pendleton, getting his swing down. Even Bobby Cox said Jordie’s been tearing it up in batting practice.

He’ll prove you all wrong !

Braveman n Orlando

January 31st, 2011
9:07 am

I’m all for Jordan AND McClouth getting it together. I’m really pulling foe Conrad as well. Great guy with a tough series at a bad time. He is SO much better than that. Hopefully everyone remembers how clutch he was during the season and not so much of the playoff stuff. If for some reason the Braves don’t keep him, there will be several teams ready to jump on him so he will be fine personally.

bvillebaron

January 31st, 2011
9:14 am

Horner’s Corner and Ryan C:

Apparently the Braves management also has discounted Matt Young’s minor league “accomplishments”. Funny how I am supposed to get all warm and fuzzy about how well Young has played in the minors (for 6 years) and yet both of you discount how well Schafer played in the spring of 2008 (where he was widely regarded as one of the most impressive rookies even by other organizations) with the argument that he did it against back up pitchers (i.e. that would be the same AA and AAA pitchers who get sent to the minors at the end of spring training who Young then faces for the rest of the season in the minors). Your argument that Schafer was overmatched by fastballs after the first week in the bigs conveniently overlooks the fact that he injured his wrist in the opening series against the Phils.

You guys are getting way too sensitive here. All I said was that when the Braves talk about possible candidates for CF, the pecking order of the discussion rightfully so is (1) McLouth (since he has been an All Star in the bigs in the past); (2) Schafer (since he did enough to convince management that he deserved a shot in the bigs at age 22 despite limited time in the minors and looked good before he got hurt) and (3) Matt Young (because he has played well in the minors). I hope you both are right and Matt Young turns out to be the next great thing in center, but the fact remains there are very few true prospects at age 28.

All I said is that Schafer is 4 years younger, has already played and had some success in the major leagues (the stuff about Schafer being overmatched by fastballs after the first week is laughable since you guys conveniently overlooked that he hurt his wrist during the first week in Phily).

Don

January 31st, 2011
9:18 am

Why is the participation in this camp for pitchers VOLUNTARY???

Swede

January 31st, 2011
9:23 am

Nickz (30/01/2011 08.07) is probably right, unfortunately…

I would prefer:

1. McLouth
2. Prado
3. Heyward
4. Chipper
5. Uggla
6. McCann
7. Gonzalez
8. Freeman
9 (pitcher)

With Heyward and Chpper’s OBA, Uggla excels in the 5th spot. Should Ugglas ball stay in the park, then McCann can clear the bases ;-)

O'flarity's water bottle

January 31st, 2011
9:23 am

Santa, are you drinking too much koolaide?

Swede

January 31st, 2011
9:24 am

Ooops, OBA = OBP…

toby

January 31st, 2011
9:30 am

i agree with 55yr fan,i will not & i repeat will not sit through 3 hours of Chip Caray’s assanine comments,he’s the worst personality thats ever been on tv!!!!!

O'flarity's water bottle

January 31st, 2011
9:30 am

swede, people dont take chippers OBP into consideration and want him to retire.

O'flarity's water bottle

January 31st, 2011
10:10 am

I agree with tobay, the long HR type of yellong for it to be a flyball out.

O'flarity's water bottle

January 31st, 2011
10:17 am

Chip Careys new nickname is Chip Tooth…”THIS BALL IS CRUSHED, GOING WAY BACK, DEEP,DEEP,DEEP!…and beltran get the the third out. The braves strand three, bottom of the 8th. Met up with this one, 4-1.”

Chuck

January 31st, 2011
10:19 am

I know what Bobby Cox’s lineup would be:
Prado
Heyward
Chipper
Uggla
McCann
Freeman (maybe Gonzalez instead)
Gonazalez
McClouth
We’ll see if Freddy will shake things up according to his observations in spring training. We will win a few more games because of Freddy’s ability to remove pitchers on time, but it may equal out because of Bobby’s ability to get the most out of youngsters. Talent should be better this year, and we won 90 last year. Phillies are going to be different, with greater pitching, but older and missing Werth.

O'flarity's water bottle

January 31st, 2011
10:22 am

chuck, no Schafer?

Swede

January 31st, 2011
10:27 am

@O’flarity’s water bottle, that is very true. I think a lot of people jump to hasty conclusions, without properly getting the full picture before thae start to shout their lungs out…

Chipper (still) means A LOT to this ballclub!

Having positive vibes about this season…

Billy

January 31st, 2011
10:58 am

Ok this is for the occasional Braves fan and the Braves fan that doesn’t follow the team religiously. Also these are the facts that some try to alter or manipulate.

Jordan Schafer was the hits leader in all of minor league baseball for an entire season.

Schafer was the number one Braves prospect in the entire organization.

Schafer is still the best defensive CF in the organization.

Schafer was suspended for association with HGH, which is not steroids, and was a better player after his suspension. It has never been proven he took HGH.

Schafer won the starting CF job in 2009 with a very good spring training and was playing spectacular baseball until he broke his wrist during the Braves first home stand that season.

Schafer was told his wrist would take up to a year to heal after surgery. That one year anniversary was a few months ago.

Schafer has said recently he is 100% healed and pain free when he swings the bat for the first time since breaking his wrist.

Schafer has been working out for months with two trainers, one for strength and another trainer for agility. He has been working on a quicker first step to steal a bag and a quicker first step to get a better jump on the ball. He said he is quicker now in both departments and getting quicker. He said he has lost all the scar tissue that was causing pain and has regained all his strength back and has added more strength. He also stated he is driving the ball and hitting with more consistency. He said he wants to leadoff. Schafer said his best spot in batting order is leadoff.

Schafer hopes to make the team and just be able to show he can help the Braves win games with his bat and glove. Did I forget to mention that cannon of an arm?

There are thousands of fans out there that will acknowledge what I am saying because they take the time to stay informed on the behind the news information available to all if you really want to know what is true. Those that are ignorant, have an agenda, or just choose to believe untruths will still defend their need to be right.

Good luck Jordan and thank you for explaining everything that has happened since 2008 and more on the recent live talk show you participated in. Also thank you for answering all the questions put forth to you.

With your athleticism and drive you will be an asset to the Braves.

Buckhead Braves Fan

January 31st, 2011
11:06 am

1. Mclouth
2. Prado
3. Chipper/Heyward
4. Uggla
5, Mac
6.Heyward/Chipper
7.AG
8.Freddie

Buckhead Braves Fan

January 31st, 2011
11:08 am

lets send this in a diff direction…all time braves lineup? babe, hank, dale, everyone…..

Billy

January 31st, 2011
11:20 am

What has me and others excited about the prospect of a healthy Schafer, returning to the form he had when he was the starting CF for the Atlanta Braves, is how strong the team will be if Nate continues his slide.

Not many teams have a former number one prospect to fall back. I hope Nate regains his 2008 form and makes this team strong, but the possibility of Schafer being back to form makes this team so scary with FF and Heyward teaming with Mac and Prado. Add Uggia to that.

Dick Greenwood

January 31st, 2011
11:45 am

Reporting date for Pitchers & Catchers is Feb 14. No date given for Team Reporting and commencement of practice. Wish someone would post it.

Billy

January 31st, 2011
11:55 am

Pitchers & Catchers Feb. 14
First Workout Feb 15
Position Players Feb 18
First full workout Feb 19

ryan c

January 31st, 2011
11:56 am

Why does it make us “haters” when we use stats to back up an argument? I HOPE SCHAFER DOES WELL!!!!!!!!!!!

It doesnt discount the fact that he hurt his wrist in April of 2009, has been injury plagued and has played incredibly poor for almost 2 years.

Spring training stats are worthless, as is one week’s worth of Major League Stats. Remember when Jeff Francoeur was called the “Natural” because he was ridiculously good for 1/3 of a MLB season? I was on board with Francouer and many more educated Braves fans were telling me to be wary of the Small Sample Size because Jeffy isn’t really this good (his track record in the Minors proved it). Needless to say, they were right.

Now, I’m not saying that Schafer is comparable to Francoeur. Far from it. Schafer has the plate discipline that Jeffy never had. But the fact remains that Schafer hasn’t had success in 2 years and his glorious week in the Majors and his great 2009 Spring should have absolutely nothing to do with Jordan Schafer of 2011. They are ridiculously Small Samples and mean nothing.

On Spring Training: Many players (veterans mostly) use Spring to get stretched out and don’t necessarily look their best during most Spring games. Rookies or players trying to earn a spot come to Spring prepared and already “game ready”. The result being the “hungry” players look amazing and head over heels better than everyone else on the field. Sure, it might win them a spot on the roster, but the true test comes in the season. Jordan has not passed that test in 2 years.

Billy, I’ve read up on Schafer, and I’m glad he’s working hard and has fully healed. I’m not doubting his abilities. He just needs to earn it, and not during Spring, but during real at-bats in AAA (where he’s never shown true success).

Dick Greenwood

January 31st, 2011
11:58 am

Thanks Billy. Couldn’t find it anywhere.

Billy

January 31st, 2011
12:22 pm

Another false assumption that needs to go away is Schafer is injury plagued. He had the one injury to his wrist that was misdiagnosed. It was not believed to be serious and he tried to downplay it by not making a big deal out of it. It was broken and he continued to try and play through it until it was discovered he had broken it and it required surgery. He was told at the time of surgery it would take one year to heal and they were right.

People speak of Schafer as if he was just a prospect. This player has every chance to have as good as a career as FF, Heyward. Nobody that I know of is giving him a position in Atlanta. Scared has already won the CF job once. It is his to reclaim. Spring training is exactly where jobs are won and lost. If Schafer makes the team out of ST as the 4th OF’er than that means he earned it just like many other young players do.

Nobody has given this gifted athlete anything. He is the best all around athlete on the 40 man roster with Heyward a close 2nd. He will earn everything he gets. After speaking directly to Schafer I was impressed with how hard he has worked to get back to where he was physically and beyond. He said he was squaring the ball up and hitting line drives to all fields. He said he could now get to the low inside fastball for the first time since he injured his wrist with that fateful swing that broke it.

Schafer is called a “Baseball Rat” in baseball circles which is a compliment. He does not have “Baseball Amnesia” and has been working to regain the rhythm he had to be the player that led all the minor leagues in hits that year. A huge accomplishment considering the players he was competing against at every level that year.

If he has to go to AAA to get some AB’s he said he will. The front office and he both don’t think he will need to do that, but ST will answer that question. Schafer is a big league player whether anyone wants to admit it. He is so much more mature now that he has had this setback to deal with. He is physically ready and mentally ready to compete for any job the Braves have in store for him. he is a true team player and my money is on him breaking camp and fans will be glad he did.

K.C. Frenchy

January 31st, 2011
12:28 pm

Chuck Oliver states that there is a gay member on the Braves but didnt say who it is, Im guessing maybe Medlen??? Anyone know who it might be?

K.C. Frenchy

January 31st, 2011
12:31 pm

Buckhead Braves Fan, that is the perfect lineup with Heyward 3rd & Chipper 6th, providing that McOut produces from the leadoff spot of course, Chipper is NOT a 3 hole hitter anymore for sure!!!

Billy

January 31st, 2011
12:32 pm

” He just needs to earn it, and not during Spring, but during real at-bats in AAA (where he’s never shown true success).”

This statement confounds and puzzles me. How can a number 1 Braves organizational prospect win the starting CF job, just like another number 1Braves organizational prospect named Heyward, when Heyward never played AAA. Schafer’s wrist was broken when he played AAA and the only reason he played triple A was nobody knew he had a broken wrist. He was sent to AAA to get at bats because he was struggling. W e all now know why he was struggling. It is near, no not near, it is impossible to swing a successful bat at any level with a broken wrist.

Beisbol Ben Beri Beri Gud

January 31st, 2011
12:48 pm

Jordan Schafer’s relatives need to quit blogging !

He once WAS a lot of things, but he’s demonstrated ZILCH since his season at Class A back in 2007.

I predict he’ll be gone by Opening Day, banished to the minors and never heard from again .

ryan c

January 31st, 2011
12:49 pm

Comparing Heyward to Schafer is absurd, Billy. Heyward was the #1 prospect in the whole frickin’ league.

And he has been injury plagued over the past 2 years, no matter if it was one injury or not. I never said he was an injury plagued player. I said that of his last two years, which is incredibly true.

Tyler

January 31st, 2011
1:29 pm

Call me crazy

1. Heyward – speed/high OBP
2. Prado
3. Chipper
4. McCann
5. Uggla
6. Freeman
7. Gonzo
8. Pitcher
9. McClouth/Schafer

Heyward would be an ideal piece a top a lineup.

Billy

January 31st, 2011
3:29 pm

I compared two Braves players as being number 1 prospects for the Braves. How you spin it in your imagination is up to you.

I compared Schafer as an athlete to Heyward as an athlete, not as baseball players. How you spin it in your imagination is again up to you. And I will say it again. Schafer is not injury plagued. It was one continuous injury that was failed to be diagnosed or treated properly. That needs to go on the medical personell of the team, not Schafer. It was not an injury being injured and reinjured over and over.

The only fact you have agreed with is it was an injury over two seasons.

Schafer has far too many supporters in his corner that he doesn’t need the misinformed misguided few here

Swede

January 31st, 2011
4:05 pm

Billy, thanks for a thorough and initiated breakdown on Jordan Schafer. I agree with you, ST is where he can win one of the outfield spots. He has always performed well when healthy, and if he is yet back to his pre-injury physical status, there is no reason why he couldn’t get back to playing at a very high level.

Nate McLouth also looked very good towards the end of last season, and both players should be in a position to prove the pessimist wrong…

2011 will be a GOOD year…

Swede

January 31st, 2011
4:08 pm

… delete the ‘yet’ from my post above…

Sorry the mishandle (as that the proper word?) the English language like this… ;-)

Chipper is #3

January 31st, 2011
4:23 pm

All of you who are projecting anyone other than Chipper hitting in the 3 hole are smoking something. Besides maybe Prado he’s the best #3 hitter we have. His OBP has always been great even when his avg has been down. I like the idea of batting Prado first, Nate second than Chip, Mac, Uggla and Heyward. Think of that line up? Prado is animal leading off, Nate should see better pitches with Chip hitting behind him, Chip will have an opportunity to drive the gaps, Mac should see some real fat pitches with Uggla behind him and Uggla will do what he’s been doing for the last 5 years. Heyward is a 2ND YEAR PLAYER GIVE THE KID A BREAK!!! Look at his numbers last year, he hit way better when he was down in the lineup. I expect nothing more of him than what he did last year .280 AVG maybe 20HRs and 60-80 RBI. This is a good lineup guys stop complaining about Chipper and making up ridiculous with him batting in 6 and above or not even in the lineup at all.

ryan c

January 31st, 2011
6:22 pm

billy…
Misinformed and misguided? That’s misrepresented and missmart. Spin it how you want in that imagination of yours.

The assumption that I’m not a “supporter” of Jordan’s because I think he needs to earn his spot in AAA is preposterous. What have I said, other than facts, that say I’m not a supporter of Jordan’s? Injured or not, Jordan hasn’t had baseball success in 2 years.

If you want to have a true baseball discussion other than being a “Schafer Homer”, will see who’s misinformed and misguided. The only thing you’ve shown thus far is that you have some fascination for Jordan that let’s your imagination run wild thinking that his “words” on a Bill Shanks interview are law.

Another thing you fail to grasp is that you talk about Jordan but completely forget that Nate McLouth, one of the best guys in baseball, is playing CF currently and has put up numbers at the Majors that surpass anything Jordan did in the Minors. So, would I be right in assuming that you aren’t supportive of Nate. Of course not. Yet, you assume that about me because I think Jordan needs to earn his spot. It’s called being realistic, not unsupportive.

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