5:46 pm January 25, 2011, by Carroll Rogers
McFann O O
January 26th, 201112:12 pm
Just tell BMac we (I) can’t wait for the season to get started and we look forward to another terrific year…and he’s the absolute best and we wish him nothing but the best!
I mean…if you get the opportunity…and I suppose you cann mention my “name” if you want to. Heeheehee…That’s kind of embarrassing…
January 26th, 201112:13 pm
JJJ just hasn’t been the same since his sholder injury.
January 26th, 201112:14 pm
C’mon Robert, you’re taking 1 step forwards and 2 backwards… gimme a day without talking about Bobby. Then we’ll work our way up to 2 days, then 3, and so on.
Don’t make me begin the aversion therapy.
January 26th, 201112:15 pm
“As for the supposed attitude of Reyes…he’s a an All-Star caliber five tool talent. So is Hanley Ramirez. As was Barry Bonds”
You can not be serious in comparing Reyes’ tool set to that of Hanley Ramirez
Reyes has a career adjusted OPS of 101 – Hanley Ramirez has a career adjusted OPS of 135
That’s not in the same area code – much less comparable
Reyes is closer to Rey Ordonez than he is to Hanley Ramirez
January 26th, 201112:16 pm
Maybe DOB or Carrol can give some insight to the state of the media exposure in the Mets clubhouse compared to others? I am simply forming an opinion based on admittedly flawed information, but my point is that we don’t really know the full truth about Reyes’ attitude as fans. — RC
Coincidentally, I just talked to a former Mets player in the past week or so.
This guy told me that the Mets clubhouse, at least a couple of years ago, was toxic. He said Carlos Delgado was a good teammate, great guy to talk to, but that Beltran was anything but. As for Jose Reyes, he said he “could never figure him out.”
January 26th, 201112:17 pm
“Don’t make me begin the aversion therapy.”
I had 17 years of aversion therapy.
Every time I saw Cox in the dugout, I got nauseous and had the urge to vomit
January 26th, 201112:18 pm
FX has a new series named Lights Out about a boxer trying to keep his family together after his career is over. It has all the makings of another winner for FX with one exception. Stacy Keach plays the boxers father and I barely recognized him and then had to look him up in the credits to be sure. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an actor age less gracefully. Drugs catch up to another…………
January 26th, 201112:22 pm
Bummer for Ward!
Every time I saw Cox in the dugout, I got nauseous and had the urge to vomit – Robert
Tell us how your really feel.
January 26th, 201112:24 pm
Thanks Ark Transplant!
My day is now complete!
January 26th, 201112:27 pm
Even though DOB’s comment had nothing to do with Frenchy… I get the feeling francoeur didn’t thoroughly enjoy being a Met.
As expected, Braves come in at #3 behind Kansas City and Tampa Bay in Keith Law’s MLB Organization Rankings:
3. Atlanta Braves
Those top three Latino arms keep marching to the big leagues, and the Braves will produce at least two other rookies who’ll spend all or most of 2011 in Atlanta in regular roles. They have a knack for getting good young talent back in deals and signing players off the waiver wire and scrap heap, including Arodys Vizcaino as a sort of throw-in to the Javier Vazquez trade.
January 26th, 201112:28 pm
The Braves would have at least 12 World Championships if I were managing the team instead of Cox.
January 26th, 201112:30 pm
Other NL East teams: Phillies at #5, Nationals at #19, Mets at #26 and Marlins at #29
Law’s Top 100 prospects comes out tomorrow.
“The Braves would have at least 12 World Championships if I were managing the team instead of Cox.” – Robert
Keylargo, The first 3 episodes have been compelling. Leary’s brother is a train wreck. He seems to be able to keep himself and everyone around him in some sort of a bind at all times. It’s painful to watch, but good television.
January 26th, 201112:31 pm
My ability to lead young men to multi-win T-Ball seasons obviously qualifies me to talk out my @$$ about a future HOF manger’s abilities.
I read most of the overnight conversation. ward did not have a lot to say and seemed nervous to me. I suppose he has reason to be.
I thought Robert had a new bone to worry in Pendleton, short lived though, he just loves his Cox bone too much.
January 26th, 201112:33 pm
The Braves would have at least 12 World Championships if I were managing the team instead of Cox. — Robert
Nah, probably only 10.
January 26th, 201112:34 pm
Why did we let Hubbard go?
January 26th, 201112:35 pm
flange1, don’t mention it.
My list of free agent SS came from Cot’s baseball contracts. Guess theirs isn’t up-to-date.
Thanks for the info on the situation of the Mets clubhouse. I had heard before that Delgado was a good guy, I thought he just got a bad rap for his national anthem protest. Kind of suprised to hear that about Beltran, but the more I think of it I can’t remember any specifics about him being that good of a guy from his earlier days. Just was no public vitriol toward him prior to his time in NY, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t always there.
January 26th, 201112:37 pm
DOB – I trust you dont think it was me that wrote that 12 championships line
I will say this
You couldve picked names out of a phone book to manage the team and we’d have at least 3 WS titles
January 26th, 201112:39 pm
This was sort of already addressed, bu that never stopped anyone on this log before. I don’t think the hole at SS next season or maybe even this season is that big of a deal by itself. Its not like anybody is counting on Seabass to be a big part of the offense. The thing is though that next year the Braves will need a CF and a SS and maybe a LF if Chipper retires and Prado moves to 3B. Wren would have something like $20 million to fill three stating slots in that scenario. No small task. If Chipper doesn’t retire Wren will have to find a way to replace two starters with less than $10 million to spend. There is no viable internal options at either position for 2011. (Spare the Jordan Schafer talk, please.) There’s no way to sign impact players with that kind of money in today’s market, so it will require signing players off the scrap heap or trading prospects. Neither of those options is appealing. It will be very interesting to see how Wren addresses these issues.
They have a knack for getting good young talent back in deals and signing players off the waiver wire and scrap heap, including Arodys Vizcaino as a sort of throw-in to the Javier Vazquez trade.
I’d consider it a salary dump since we couldn’t keep Lowe and Vazquez. Vizcaino was a top prospect while Mike Dunn might have been considered a throw in. Of course he became a throw in again in the Uggla trade.
January 26th, 201112:42 pm
There has to be some deep rooted anger from Robert at Bobby, I’m guessing he’s Bobby’s neighbor and Bobby’s Dog has craped on Roberts lawn too many times. Nobody could keep up years of that daily tirade on here unless there is something deep, which leads to another point its getting deep again today.
T for Texas
Yeah, but it was only for one season, last year. He is a young man, and I think odds are better than not that he comes back and has a strong performance this season.
January 26th, 201112:45 pm
Bobby Cox pwnd Robert.
Mike Dunn might have been considered a throw in.
But the Braves gave the Yankees Boone Logan in that trade as well. It seems the clubs just swapped young LHPs in that end of the deal. Logan for Dunn.
There’s a name that hasn’t come up that is pretty interesting because he plays every position but 1B and catcher. Alfredo Amezaga would be a very good fit IMO, plus he was also one of Fredi’s players.
Jurrjens pitched a little over his head in 2009, and in 2010 he was hurt most of the year. Its hard to say what we can reasonably expect out of Jurrjens this year.
January 26th, 201112:49 pm
“Thanks for the info on the situation of the Mets clubhouse”
There is far too much emphasis placed on “clubhouse chemistry” and “being a good teammate”
The players are there to do a job. The primary concern is NOT that they be happy in their little clubhouse.
Look at the A’s dynasty – They fought with each other. They hated their owner. The manager hated the owner (and quit after winning two consecutive WS)
And they won
We are paying Chipper Jones all those millions of dollars to win titles – NOT for him to be satisfied with how his clique behaves in his clubhouse
January 26th, 201112:51 pm
I’m glad that the Braves have installed a new hitting coach, partly to change things up and give Fredi “his guy” at the position (prolly the 2nd or 3rd most important position on a ball club).
I tend to agree that this will hurt TP from a future mlb managers stand-point, as it appears to be a step back. However, it will round out his resume. Maybe he skipped over some positions that would have helped him develop as a coach/manager.
I’m surprised at some of the vitriol directed towards TP. Because Bobby stuck with slumping guys forever, TP prolly took more heat for slumps than a hitting coach on another team might.
However, before crucifying TP for the horrible job he’s done with Francouer, look at the other hitting coaches that have failed to correct JF’s problems. Same for Andruw, KJ, Nate-dog…
Every super slumper that I can think of who was under TP’s tutelage has gone to other clubs and continued to slump. Maybe the problem is the hitter?
January 26th, 201112:57 pm
abwright – don’t put KJ in that group. He had a great year – better than any Brave.
.284 / .370 / .496 / .865 / 128 OPS+ with 36 doubles and 26 HR
Bat Masterson, January 25th, 2011, 7:52 pm … “critical thinking skills are mean thoughts.”
This is the funniest thing I’ve heard today. Do I have to pay you a royalty if I use it?
“However, before crucifying TP for the horrible job he’s done with Francouer, look at the other hitting coaches that have failed to correct JF’s problems”
Not a comparable situation.
The Braves manager and coaches were the ones who were in a position to lay down the law with a young player. He mightve tried to hold his breath til he turned blue, but ultimately he wouldve learned who was in charge and wouldve learned respect
Once that young player was allowed to show no discipline and was allowed to act like he was entitled to his everyday role, that’s all he will ever be – all he will do at this point is resent anyone who doesnt let him behave like Cox let him behave
You gotta keep people off welfare to begin with – Once they are on it, they feel entitled and you cant ever take them off it
Robert, you’re an idiot.
Have you ever tried to work at a job where you didn’t get along with your co-workers? It affects your job performance, bottom line.
And you’re not paying Chipper Jones anything. The only thing you pay for is your own self-loathing attitude.
January 26th, 201112:58 pm
Team Chemistry does play a role for a teams success. Maybe not on all teams but on most. A team that gels together plays harder. You can trust your teamates more. IMO a good team chemistry is essential for success.
January 26th, 20111:00 pm
Let’s talk about the future and forget about the past.
As Willie Nelson said “There’s nothing I can do about in now.”
Biggest case against Booby “The Donkey” Cox: how could a team with Russ Ortiz as its ace not make it out of the first round? Many managers have done more with less. I could take 5 Horacio Ramirez’s and come out with at least an NL pennant.
January 26th, 20111:02 pm
Robert (and Don) “he knew Bobby wouldn’t back his coaches” Huh? Francoeur? HUH? You just proved yourself wrong! Francoeur was TRADED!!!!! (not to mention Escobar). Even Andruw was not kept around. All primarily because they refused to listen to the coaches and the manager, I believe. You guys are really overboard with your Cox hate. It makes you sound like blithering idiots! (well, if the shoe fits…)
January 26th, 20111:03 pm
Robert “I could take 5 Horacio Ramirez’s and come out with at least an NL pennant.”
I could take 5 of Horacio Ramirez’s cleats and come out with at least a trip for you to the proctologist to have them removed!
January 26th, 20111:04 pm
Law loses a bit of credablity in claiming Vizciano was a throw-in in the Vasquez trade. Vizciano was the centerpiece of that trade. Melky was the throw-in.
January 26th, 20111:05 pm
Ortiz was a head case who went through periods where he couldn’t throw a strike. I was happy to see him go. Yet another “blithering idiot” moment.
January 26th, 20111:06 pm
bobby hill The thing is though that next year the Braves will need a CF and a SS and maybe a LF if Chipper retires and Prado moves to 3B. Wren would have something like $20 million to fill three stating slots in that scenario.
i dont think thats quite right…with no chipper, no gonzalez, no mclouth, no kawakami, thats over $30mil right there. there will be some raises, but thats also not all the money coming off, with guys like sherril, linebrink, ect.
besides, there may not be a hole at CF, or SS for that matter. we dont know that yet. id say having shafer play CF is more likely than having a SS step up. ill spare the shafer talk, if you spare the “too many holes, too little money in 2012″ talk for another year.
January 26th, 20111:07 pm
I cant believe that Keith Law thinks Vizcaino was a throw in.He was rated the 4th best Yankee prospect at that time.
This is like calling a “30 yr old aceto balsamic” salad dressing.
January 26th, 20111:08 pm
Just which three of the 15 post seasons would Robert have not won the World Series? Give us a clue Robert just which of the 3 we can’t simply blame on Cox or credit to your superior managing skills?
Nick in the daylight
January 26th, 20111:10 pm
GO Phillies, Braves won’t even make the play-offs.
Frankly I think a couple of the Robert and Don comments were by imposters. But what difference does it make. Carry on.
January 26th, 20111:13 pm
Snot – I saw at least 1 by each that was obviously an impostor attempting some humor. It’s actually not needed, as they make fools of themselves with no additionsl help.
If Cox is a donkey, what animal will Freddi become after the first couple of months of the season? Have you got one already picked out? We can’t wait until you start second-guessing the new guy, but then he probably couldn’t have won 12 titles in 15 tries like you could ( even with 5 HoRams in the rotation!)
January 26th, 20111:14 pm
It’s actually not needed, as they make fools of themselves with no additionsl help.
Exactly my thoughts as well.
January 26th, 20111:15 pm
Do I have to pay you a royalty if I use it? _ abwright
Thank you, abwright.
No, not at all. Public domain, feel free.
January 26th, 20111:16 pm
IMO a good team chemistry is essential for success.
Baseball is a lot more about physics than chemistry.
The heartiest Escobar-hater on this board probably realizes that the guy wouldn’t have been traded if he had hit .300 in 2010. Rickey Henderson wasn’t exactly beloved in the clubhouse, but no one clamored for his removal. Ty Cobb never picked up a dinner check in his life, and I doubt there was much worry that he was a clubhouse pain-in-the-rear.
Sure, it’s more fun when you like the guys you’re playing with, but, bottom line, it’s how much you like the d-bag between the lines, not whether you have drinks with him after the game. I’ll bet many here have played with guys that one would fight for to keep on the field, yet would not invite that same sucker home for supper.
January 26th, 20111:18 pm
I had forgotten the KK money, but still all those other guys with expiring contract will have to be replaced. And Uggla and the other arb eligible guys will get additional raises. (Are Heyward and Hanson going to be Super 2’s?) I don’t think Chipper will retire this year. It’s just too much money to just walk away.
Either way, unless you count Schafer, there’s currently no one projected for those 2012 starting slots. Maybe someone in the minors has an amazing year. Maybe not. My guess is that at the deadline this year the Braves will need to add offense and will acquire either a SS or a CF. Given the lack of quality CF’s my guess would be a SS with a career OBP higher than .294.
January 26th, 20111:19 pm
keylargo … my bad. I remember that KJ started off like a superstar but kind of sucked wind towards the middle. Arizona was so far off radar by the end that I have no idea how KJ finished.
Also, KJ may be a legit major league starter who ran afoul of the arbitration system (kind of like Mark Derosa).
January 26th, 20111:22 pm
So Phillies are number 5 on the minor league prospect depth? That’s amazing. I thought they lost quite a bit of it with the Lee & Halladay trades. I thought they had Domonic Brown and Jason Donald as the top names, but a big gap after that. Guess I didnt have all the information.
January 26th, 20111:23 pm
Robert, January 26th, 2011, 12:57 pm … “The Braves manager and coaches were the ones who were in a position to lay down the law with a young player.”
You’re so wrong on this that I don’t even know where to start. Bobby Cox and Terry Pendleton were not the reason that Jeff Francoeur is a marginal MLB player with an attitude.
Many here seem to believe the Braves ahould (are intitled to) win every game. Nothing short of 162-0 will be good enough. Otherwise, someone is to blame. Don and Robert (amoung others) blame Cox, and continue to do so, even though that is old news, and he is gone. They will blame Freddie, and whoever comes after him. Others find the “player of the day” to blame. The fact is that no team is perfect. The Braves have done a pretty good job of puting together highly competitive teams for 20 years, and done it within a restrictive budget for the last several. That is all you can reasonably ask.
Most (not quite all) of the of the other teams are trying every year to win it too, and they are run mostly by good baseball people as well. The Braves don’t have a “birthright” to win championships. As a big Braves fan since they moved to Atlanta, I say CARRY ON.
January 26th, 20111:24 pm
When I read the title of the article I couldnt help but to have a vision of Pendleton standing in front of the mirror, practicing waving the runner and holding the runner
I’ve gotta admit, that one was funny, Robert.
bobby hill, the holes that will be there after 2011 will have to be addressed, but if chipper stays, only needing to find a SS and a CF wont be bad. i mean….what do we have in those positions this year? they arent MVP’s or anything.
whats a bigger deal, that we wont have a SS or CF, or that we DO have jason heyward, dan uggla, brian mccann, martin prado, chipper jones, tommy hanson, jair jurrjens, craig kimbrel, johnny venters….the list goes on. know what i mean? we could get gregor blanco and adam everett and have a pretty good team. the braves are a solid team, and they are going to stay that way for a few years, here, based on the way it is set up.
January 26th, 20111:27 pm
Bobby Cox and Terry Pendleton were not the reason that Jeff Francoeur is a marginal MLB player with an attitude.
Nah, they probably had the cure for “slider-spin-recognition failure” all along.
January 26th, 20111:32 pm
DOB…. Is there any chance the Braves try to make a deal for an unhappy Michael Young? I know the 16mil a year would be hard to swing. However he would be a great insurance policy at a # of positions…
January 26th, 20111:36 pm
There was a considerable distinction in Kelly Johnson’s home and away splits.
A terror at home, a terrier away.
January 26th, 20111:38 pm
Where do you guys come up with these questions?
I agree with Robert.
January 26th, 20111:40 pm
$16 M per year is a little more than we are likely to spend for an “insurance policy at a # of positions”, especially with our budget. That would be a no.
I am just saying it may be worth a shot trying Heyward in center… I know everyone hates that idea… But Michael Young has played all around the horn… Why not RF?
January 26th, 20111:41 pm
Fish – What do you agree with, the idiotic blithering, or the endless (baseless) ranting?
January 26th, 20111:43 pm
daniel – 1 – He costs $16 M/year
2 – he’s a malcontent
How many more do you need?
January 26th, 20111:44 pm
s there any chance the Braves try to make a deal for an unhappy Michael Young? I know the 16mil a year would be hard to swing.
This makes me want to comment on the curious position of the Texas Rangers. They dug the hole they are standing in.
First they signed Beltre to what looks like a dangerous long term deal. Something that not only started this Young confusion but triggered events that would only make it worse.
So now that Beltre was signed, the Angels, having lost out earlier on Crawford/Werth etc decided they needed to do something and desperately traded for Wells. Ok bad deal. But they sent Napoli to the blue jays and their alerady crowded roster. I guess the Jays were happy to get anything back for the monster contract to be off their books. Now when the Jays are waiting to flip Napoli to someone else, who comes in but our extremely desperate Rangers – who will now try to shoehorn Napoli between C,1B and DH further reducing Young’s role. And now they will have to try and trade Young’s bad contract. What the heck is going on? Madness I tell you.
January 26th, 20111:47 pm
I would be of malcontent myself if my job was being passed around like a 10 dollar hooker… The poor guy just keeps getting moved all around the diamond… I just know that Nolan Ryan likes those Texas sized pitchers so Derek Lowe’s contract for Young would be a great idea in my opinion. I would just like another big bat in this lineup
SB,makes you wonder if Nolan Ryan is getting a little too involved.
January 26th, 20111:50 pm
“If Cox is a donkey, what animal will Freddi become after the first couple of months of the season? Have you got one already picked out? ”
I didnt start having an issue with Cox until 1993.
I am not going to label Fredi a donkey if some one decision he makes during a game doesnt work out.
Now, if he develops a pattern of repeated fundamental managerial errors over the course of several years, then it will be time to reevaluate him
January 26th, 20111:53 pm
That’s 18 years. You’ve been complaining about the same thing for 18 years straight?
The new owners certainly seem more willing to throw around money. Looks like they are banking on quick success bring in a lot more fans and money.
January 26th, 20111:55 pm
“Many here seem to believe the Braves ahould (are intitled to) win every game. Nothing short of 162-0 will be good enough. ”
Last I checked it your boy Cox who admitted that he dreams of 162-0
January 26th, 20111:56 pm
I can go 162-0 on MLB 2010!!! LOL
January 26th, 20111:58 pm
daniel buck I would just like another big bat in this lineup
then why are you talking about michael young?
I would be of malcontent myself if my job was being passed around like a 10 dollar hooker… The poor guy just keeps getting moved all around the diamond…
I agree with this.
2003 – He moves from 2B to SS to accommodate Soriano.
2009 – He moves to 3B to accommodate Andrus
2011 – Would you mind moving to 1B.
Uhhh…. okay, I guess.
Actually, sorry. we meant could you pitch the 7th inning instead?
January 26th, 20112:02 pm
Batting average over .300 and 22 HR last two years… How big a bat would you like.. Compare to our left fielder… or right fielder for that matter in 2010 DAP.
January 26th, 20112:04 pm
Robert. Im sick of your comments. You dont belong here.. Youre out of your element son. DOB pretty Much told you to get a life, and find a REAL hobby… This blog is no hobby..
Hello every one! I would like to hear more on our young shortstops.We haven’t heard too much about them. It would be nice to hear more……..
January 26th, 20112:05 pm
“Arodys Vizcaino as a sort of throw-in to the Javier Vazquez trade”
This guy clearly doesn’t know his stuff. I knew nothing about Vizcaino, but everyone here on the blog said that the whole point of that trade was to get him and that Melky was actually the mediocre throw in.
That seems to be the case at this point because Melky is almost out of a MLB job.
I think TP was a great infielder and should show off some of his skills as a coach. Also, he will be more well rounded as a coach. I think he has the skills to be a great major league manager . I remember that when he was on the field, we had another coach there. He used to go over and talk to the pitcher all the time. Go TP !
January 26th, 20112:06 pm
Ok Ward…. Ed Salcedo will end up being a super bad-ass…. How is that?
January 26th, 20112:07 pm
Its people like you robert who keep me looking for the gray highlighted comments, your logic is complete garbage…. Go find a hobby.
January 26th, 20112:08 pm
I thought they had Domonic Brown and Jason Donald as the top names, but a big gap after that.
Yeah their top 6-7 prospects or so is pretty strong. Jon Singleton, Jarred Cosart, Trevor May, Brody Colvin, Jesse Biddle, Jiwan James, Sebastian Valle. Very good group. Scary, given how damn good their MLB team is. Plenty of talent to trade during this 2-3 year window, if they deem it necessary.
“I didnt start having an issue with Cox until 1993.
That’s 18 years. You’ve been complaining about the same thing for 18 years straight?”
It’s called triage.
For 18 years, the Braves and their fans were worried about and bickering about secondary or tertiary issues – what extra hitter to go after, or who would be the last guy out of the bullpen,or whether we should put the water cooler by Cox’s office or near Chipper’s locker or whether Rafael Belliard looked better in short-shorts or a miniskirt
It doesnt matter whether you paint the walls blue or yellow if someone is just going to smear them with feces no matter what
January 26th, 20112:09 pm
Last I checked it your boy Cox who admitted that he dreams of 162-0 _ Robert
Robert’s critical thinking skills are in full bloom.
Frank from KS(now livin in CO)
Robert is like the guy that got his heart broke by some girl….and has resentment issues and can’t let go
January 26th, 20112:11 pm
Thanks Efrim. Knew I could count on you for that.
Scary indeed.Hope they fall on their face soon.
D.O.B.: How about a full article on our young shortstops?
January 26th, 20112:12 pm
“Robert’s critical thinking skills are in full bloom.”
Bat, are you denying that Cox made the comment that he dreams of going 162-0?
January 26th, 20112:14 pm
Robert i found your hobby! Why dont you start managing basebal games???? Thats right in your element….Then, when youre good enough for a real ballclub to hire you ( which we all know is GONNA happen), go win division titles for 15 years…
January 26th, 20112:16 pm
Robert – We ALL dream of a 162-0 season. Few expect it. Even less blame it on the manager.
Read this article by Carroll. It has a write-up on some of the SS prospects being discussed here.
Robert, the Braves – with Bobby Cox as their manager – won 104 games in 1993. I know, I know….he didn’t win the World Series, so that means he’s a horrible manager.
I know there’s nothing I can say, because your mind is already made up. Anything I do say you’ll just twist around to make Bobby Cox at fault. And frankly, we’re all tired of hearing about it, so I don’t think I should keep feeding you.
January 26th, 20112:17 pm
Robert: Let Bobby Cox go in peace…….He is still a great manager, and will be in the Hall Of Fame. He got the braves in The Play Offs, and we should be happy with that. How many teams don’t make it there?We should be proud of Bobby’s success! He made mistakes,but all great managers do…..We could miss him if thing don’t go well this year……
January 26th, 20112:19 pm
I think he’s more pointing out how you’re taking one Bobby Cox comment made in passing and making a big deal about it.
DOB: Bobby, what’s your goal for this season?
Bobby: Well I’d like to go 162-0
Bobby and the people in attendance share a laugh
Robert: Did you hear that?!?!??? That old senile BUFFOON thinks we can go undefeated!!! FIER BOOBY!!!!!!
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