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cabravesfan
February 1st, 2011
3:17 pm
What’s the eye roll for??
Tom O'Hawke
February 1st, 2011
3:18 pm
Why is Ward capitalized today?
Ease, he did that a few days ago, for some unknown reason. I pointed out, to him, that it made him appear taller. He agreed, and the rest is now blog history.
nolie
February 1st, 2011
3:19 pm
If Lopez is even serviceable I could see him being trade bait 10P
if someone wanted him why would they not just sign him to a minor league contract instead of trade for him. Seems like the expensive way to get him and oesn’t make a lot of sense to me
Ease® in Woodstock
February 1st, 2011
3:22 pm
cab – because I know that you work from home, and I am secretly envious of your 4-minute commute.
or… because I cannot fathom anyone being a NIners fan…
Ease® in Woodstock
February 1st, 2011
3:23 pm
Tom – I remember when nolie tried to capitalize himself once…just does not have the same affect…I felt like he was always shouting at us…
Tom O'Hawke
February 1st, 2011
3:25 pm
4-minute commute????
Ease, that’s only on her real bad hangover days. Usually she makes it in a few seconds.
Tom O'Hawke
February 1st, 2011
3:27 pm
Yeah, Ease. Didn’t work for nolie. Besides, he’s already 6′ 2″.
cabravesfan
February 1st, 2011
3:29 pm
Ease-
It only takes me 4 minutes if I get lost
May I ask which team you support?
DAP
February 1st, 2011
3:29 pm
nolie if someone wanted him why would they not just sign him to a minor league contract instead of trade for him
because the braves got him first. there was competition for his services when the braves signed him, dont forget. and lopez’s value can go up depending on what needs a team has, and how lopez is piching in the minors, or out of the bullpen.
Murph
February 1st, 2011
3:34 pm
In related news, McLouth knocked the Hannah Montana covers off his bed this morning. He brought them in to show JS, saying “This is what you have to look forward to this year.”
JS didn’t seem all that impressed.
Tom O'Hawke
February 1st, 2011
3:36 pm
Ease-
It only takes me 4 minutes if I get lost
And that only happens on the rare occasion when she wakes up still plastered.
cricket
February 1st, 2011
3:38 pm
Why is Ward capitalized today?
Murph finally slipped a bit..
nolie
February 1st, 2011
3:38 pm
because the braves got him first. there was competition for his services when the braves signed him, DAP
but they could just have made a slightly better offer. it would have been cheaper than having to give up a player.
not saying it couldn’t happen, but I seriously doubt that was the impetus for the deal from the Braves standpoint
nolie
February 1st, 2011
3:40 pm
I remember when nolie tried to capitalize himself once
that was not intentional, I am waaay toooo modest to use an uppercase letter
ncscoots
February 1st, 2011
3:40 pm
Guy’s got a point there, scoots…
When you got to use Melky to make a favorable comparison…
In any event, Damon in a Braves’ uni would have probably put me on a fan hiatus for a season. But, he wasn’t, and that’s that, Melky notwithstanding.
Murph
February 1st, 2011
3:53 pm
Murph finally slipped a bit..
Whatever you say . Don
BravePack
February 1st, 2011
3:56 pm
I read that preview on the Braves from Yahoo sports and I can honestly say I disagree with their prediction on the Phillies running away with the division. Yes they added Lee but like we’ve stated on here Werth leaving will affect that line-up. The Braves added Uggla, and I see our pitching being even better than last year. Hanson has another year under his belt, Lowe seemed to figure something out at the end of last season which hopefully will carry over to this year. The Bulldog will be his usual dominating self with more stamina toward the end of the season unlike last year where you could tell he was getting tired. JJ will hopefully rebound and get more wins than last year, and Minor looks to be the real deal, especially as a 5th starter.
Guys we won 91 games without Chipper and Prado for the last month or so and nothing from our 1st base position except for like a month when Glaus was roping. Who can honestly say this line-up isn’t going to be better than last year with Uggla, Heyward, Prado, McCann, and hopefully a healthy Chipper. Not to mention Freeman will be better than Glaus even if he struggles some and Gonzalez will be better than Escobar was last year. I have a really good feeling this team will be fighting for a division title up until September and in my opinion WILL WIN the NL East in 2011. Mark.it.Down. Febuary 1st 2011 BravePack said it.
Bat Masterson
February 1st, 2011
3:59 pm
Man, it’s windier than N8 out there. Damn near blew my truck off the road on the way home from the grocery store.
ncscoots
February 1st, 2011
4:01 pm
Man, it’s windier than N8 out there.
Best find low cover and hunker down, then.
cabravesfan
February 1st, 2011
4:01 pm
Tom-
TennesseePaul
February 1st, 2011
4:03 pm
In any event, Damon in a Braves’ uni would have probably put me on a fan hiatus for a season. But, he wasn’t, and that’s that, Melky notwithstanding.
Melky blew through my budget last season. I had a set amount allotted for smashed TV panels at local bars… Glad that guy is gone.
TennesseePaul
February 1st, 2011
4:06 pm
Thinking about that budget for this coming season… I can see where it could very well be decreased. JoJo is gone. Melky is gone… I like the guys on this club. Hopefully none of them will burn through as the season unfolds.
raleighbravefan
February 1st, 2011
4:07 pm
scoots – Funny! (about Nate). I hear we will get a Nate warning tonight before the Hurricanes game.
cricket
February 1st, 2011
4:13 pm
Whatever you say . Don
That sir was below the belt. I have no option but to indulge in worst name calling possible on the blog and call you Robert.
ncscoots
February 1st, 2011
4:15 pm
Thinking about that [broken television] budget for this coming season… I can see where it could very well be decreased.
When in sports bars, I’ve found that drinking expensive and pretentious microbrews tends to cut down on my beerglass-flinging. I mean, I already look like a dilettante for drinking such stuff, don’t want to add “glass-throwing thug” to the resume at the same time.
The beers mostly own suckage, but I’m saving a lot of TVs from the landfill. I guess it evens out.
Bat Masterson
February 1st, 2011
4:16 pm
Ensconced in my, up to the latest hurricane building codes house now, scoots. Should be good to go.
TennesseePaul
February 1st, 2011
4:18 pm
I’ve found that drinking expensive and pretentious microbrews tends to cut down on my beerglass-flinging.
Tried that. Melky and JoJo had a way of getting around all the obstacles and making my life miserable.
DAP
February 1st, 2011
4:18 pm
nolie but they could just have made a slightly better offer. it would have been cheaper than having to give up a player.
not saying it couldn’t happen, but I seriously doubt that was the impetus for the deal from the Braves standpoint
thats not always how this stuff works, especially if a guy is looking at a minor league deal, he may not have given other teams very long to up the offer. he may have not given them anytime.
you could be right, but i think it WAS the impetus for the deal, hoping to capitalize on a need later in the season. the fact that the braves have quite a logjam of pitchers supports my way of thinking, in my opinion. signing him to help the team seems just as far fetched if not more than signing him in hopes of building his value and flipping him.
raleighbravefan
February 1st, 2011
4:19 pm
Murph and cricket – guys! There is no place for that kind of nasty language in the blog. Robert and .Don indeed. Go home and wash out your mouths with soap.
ncscoots
February 1st, 2011
4:22 pm
Bat, I saw a pretty amazing riff on building codes on This Old House the other day. They showed all the “seismic renovation” stuff necessary when updating a home in LA, safeguarding against earthquakes. 18-inch concrete retaining walls, beams vertical and horizontal to protect against shear and racking, etc. Pretty amazing (and expensive) stuff. I imagine some of the same, in your neck of the woods.
Bat Masterson
February 1st, 2011
4:23 pm
The last three times I’ve seen Robert commenting here he has been holding his tongue, talking about other stuff. May not hold, but it’s been a welcome change of pace.
ncscoots
February 1st, 2011
4:25 pm
Tried that. Melky and JoJo had a way of getting around all the obstacles and making my life miserable.
Hey, I didn’t say it was a total preventive solution. Merely ameliorating.
RC
February 1st, 2011
4:26 pm
The last three times I’ve seen Robert commenting here he has been holding his tongue, talking about other stuff. May not hold, but it’s been a welcome change of pace.
Agreed. Robert holds his opinions very strongly, but if you can ever get him onto another subject he seems to be fairly reasonable.
.Don just spews vitrol.
Jeff R
February 1st, 2011
4:27 pm
BravePack… I think your opinion is closer to the truth than Braves’ fans who have already conceded the division to the Phils. No doubt the Phils rotation is superior, but the Braves’ rotation could possibly feature four 15-game winners and the Braves’ bullpen is better than Philly’s (Yes, I know Kimbrel still needs to prove himself, but I think he will – and the rest of the bullpen is solid).
Phils have an edge offensively, but here, again, if everything falls right for the Braves, they could have a solid offense. Defense… the Braves are so-so; Phils are better.
Yeah, sure, the Phils are, indeed, the pre-season favorites to take the division. But writing off the Braves’ chances at the division title is premature. 162 games is a long season.
DAP
February 1st, 2011
4:30 pm
jeff r Phils have an edge offensively, but here, again, if everything falls right for the Braves,
i think an argument could be fairly easily made that the braves’ offense is equal to the phillies. at least equal. and if everything falls right for the braves, they are the top scoring team in the NL.
ncscoots
February 1st, 2011
4:31 pm
and if everything falls right for the braves, they are the top scoring team in the NL.
Reds and Brewers might have something to say about that, I think.
Just Pat
February 1st, 2011
4:32 pm
scoots
My hubby would’ve been SO happy to see your post! He does “preventive” work, NOT “prevenTAtive” work and it drives him nuts to see “prevenTAtive”, rather than preventive!
Bat Masterson
February 1st, 2011
4:38 pm
scoots_
When I first moved here the framing just blew my mind. 5/8 threaded rods from the foundation through the wall to the roof every where through out the house and the porches. Straps, joist hangers, plywood nailed every 4 inches on all the walls. No styrofoam sheathing here. 150 MPH wind resistant doors and windows. The list goes on and on.
The cost of the windows and doors alone, on the average Watercolor or Watersound development cottage cost more than my very nice (3300 sq ft under roof) plantation style home in Ga.
ncscoots
February 1st, 2011
4:38 pm
Copy and paste it for him, Pat, and let me know if there are other words I can use to make him happy, LOL.
DAP
February 1st, 2011
4:39 pm
some interesting offensive rankings from 2010. the braves were 5th in the league in runs scored (738), behind the reds (790), phillies (772), rockies (770), and brewers (750). the braves had the highest OBP of those teams and the lowest slg% of those teams.
my guess that those 5 teams, plus the cardinals will be in the mix for top 5 offenses next year. so, which teams out of the braves, phillies, rockies, cardinals, brewers, and reds actually improved offensivly?
my prediction has been bold. i think the braves score 800 runs in 2011. it doesnt seem far fetched for them to be the best in the NL.
Bobby Hill
February 1st, 2011
4:40 pm
I don’t think its revisionist history to say that most people on here were optimistic about the Braves chances to win the division a year ago.
A year ago everyone was talking about the Braves’ rotation as the best in the National League. The rebuilt bullpen looked really solid assuming Saito and Wagner could stay healthy. Everyone was going gaga over Heyward and his spring training moon shots. Everyone was expecting a big year from McLouth and Yunel. Glaus looked to be a high upside low risk signing. KK was set to have an improved year after adjusting to MLB, and Chipper was healthy.
No one expected McLouth to suck as bad as he did. No one expected Melky to play as much as he did. No one expected Jurrjens to have an awful year. No one expected Lowe to suck for most of the year. No one expected Prado and Chipper to go down in the way that they did.
Even as bad as the 2010 team was at times (when they were awful, they were really awful) they still led the division most of the summer and made the playoffs. The 2010 team was a good team that was never able to put it all together because of injury and bad luck, and whatever happened to Mclouth.
DAP
February 1st, 2011
4:41 pm
agreed, scoots.
ncscoots
February 1st, 2011
4:41 pm
Bat, yowsah, LOL. That’s doing work, bubba. Probably a good feeling to know all that, though, if it came to crunch time.
Just Pat
February 1st, 2011
4:41 pm
Bat
That’s whatcha get for buying from a St. Joe development.
Just Pat
February 1st, 2011
4:50 pm
Bat
Kidding (in a way) about that. Trust me, we found out about the development standards while building my mother-in-law’s place a few years ago and followed them. Meanwhile, we live in a dinky place that four guys put up back in 1976 following NO standards and it’s still standing…..right across the drive from our “fancy” building.
ncscoots
February 1st, 2011
4:53 pm
Meanwhile, we live in a dinky place that four guys put up back in 1976 following NO standards and it’s still standing…..right across the drive from our “fancy” building.
Best not tug on Superman’s cape, Pat, LOL.
Murph
February 1st, 2011
4:57 pm
That sir was below the belt. I have no option but to indulge in worst name calling possible on the blog and call you Robert.
Oh yeah? Well, you play ball like a GIRL!
Bat Masterson
February 1st, 2011
5:03 pm
J Pat_
I did not buy or build a house ( for myself) in those ST Joe developments, though I did get burned on a lot in the River Camps one. Seemed like a good idea at the time, no flipping involved and it may pay off in ten years or so.
St Joe did alright for awhile, but things got out of hand fast. I don’t know how they could have stopped people from flipping those lot and houses, really. That said they screwed up (IMO) trying to build cheap, too. I had a friend that bought a lot in Watersound, closest to the beach by the dunes, won a lottery drawing and paid 450k. Sold it three years later for a cool million bucks.
I have to admit I did well here, made a lot of money but I knew it was going to crash, how could it not. I almost bought a house in 06, wooded area five or six blocks from the beach. 1736 sq feet, no garage or carport, no fireplace no built in bookcases or anything really. 3 bedrooms 3 baths, not bad but nothing special either, 580K. Thankfully I said the hell with all that and walked away.
Just Pat
February 1st, 2011
5:04 pm
scoots
*sigh*..I know, but we can’t just bulldoze the place (like we’ve wanted to many times!). Instead we’ve slowly but surely put in our own upgrades and hope for the best.
Just Pat
February 1st, 2011
5:08 pm
Bat
We had to deal with Billy Buzzett when he was before our county commission for permission on SummerCamp, and my horrible, terrible, awful impression of St. Joe comes directly from that. When I read that he’d been appointed to DCA, I literally, GAGGED.
Jeff R
February 1st, 2011
5:08 pm
DAP… On second thought, I think you’re right that the Braves could have a better offense than Philly – if things fall into place for the Braves. I think McLouth, Chipper, and Freeman are keys.
Bat Masterson
February 1st, 2011
5:14 pm
Pat_
Things are a mess and not likely to improve anytime soon, from what I see. Of course St Joe is not going anywhere because they still own all the Dirt.
Just Pat
February 1st, 2011
5:18 pm
Bat
Had a friend down here who wrote a little ditty (you can imagine the music it’s set to): Can you tell a pretty lie, Billy Boy, Billy Boy? Can you tell a pretty lie, charming Billy? I can tell a pretty lie in the twinkling of an eye; I’m a St. Joe boy but please don’t tell my mother.
Bat Masterson
February 1st, 2011
5:32 pm
Pat_
A friend gave me a book to read about St Joe’s plans for the Fl panhandle a couple of years ago, Green Empire. Things had crashed by then and i have not bothered to read it, maybe I should.
They drove the train but others were happy to hook up to it. Man the stories I could tell.
Just Pat
February 1st, 2011
5:44 pm
Bat
Sounds like we ought to get together over a beer or something! Yeah, hubby and I were in the forefront of “stuff” here in our little hometown and, you’re right. St. Joe wasn’t the ONLY problem. We DID manage to stop Grand Legacy’s “vision” for here, though! Yeah…sure….two 8 story condos! GRRRRRRRRRRR We have empty lots and condos all over the place and we smirk every time we go by them thinking of the speculators having to pay taxes on them. ‘Course..doesn’t help that OUR taxes went up BECAUSE of the speculators!
N8
February 1st, 2011
5:56 pm
“By the way, I mentioned to Chipper today that his talking about knee tendinitis yesterday brought out another round of skepticism on the blog, Twitter, etc. He kind of smirked and said, “Tell ‘em I’m gonna be in the lineup Opening Day.””
Oh, I don’t doubt for a second that he’ll be in the opening day lineup.
How many games will he last and and how will his surgically repaired, 39 year old knee hold up? That’s my concern.
But in fairness to Chipper, the blog was full of the same questions about Tim Hudson last year at this time and I never doubted he’d be fine. But he was also 18 months removed from the surgery and had gotten some live pitching in the previous September. So there was something to go off of, that showed with some luck with his health, Hudson was “back”.
Unfortunately, until Chipper has to go full speed ahead for a few weeks at a time (something I doubt he seriously does in spring training or exhibition games), we just won’t know.
But I like his confidence. Better than him sulking about it, shrugging and saying he doesn’t know how it will respond.
Good for him (and us if he’s right).
nolie
February 1st, 2011
6:24 pm
thats not always how this stuff works, especially if a guy is looking at a minor league deal, DAP
really? In my actual experience it is the way it almost always works. They have already told David that they signed him as possible #5 backup and that makes a whole lot more sense to me that that they think another team might end up trading a player for some guy they could have gotten for next to nothing and NO player. Pretty convoluted logic you are espousing there ol buddy.
nolie
February 1st, 2011
6:29 pm
i think the braves score 800 runs in 2011. it doesnt seem far fetched for them to be the best in the NL. DAP
seems kinda far-fetched to me. It would take a relatively healthy full year from most all regulars. That usually doesn’t happen, but if it does you might be right.
keylargo
February 1st, 2011
6:34 pm
Nolie – what would you say is a good number for the cost per year to develop a minor league player? Does that cost stay constant from the low minors to AAA? Is that number all inclusive of salaries, insurance?
ncscoots
February 1st, 2011
6:37 pm
Instead we’ve slowly but surely put in our own upgrades and hope for the best.
You bet. I spent a couple of years renovating my place here, doing all sorts of stuff. About half of which I had planned to do initially, LOL.
nolie
February 1st, 2011
6:38 pm
windy as a N8 out huh? That’s a great line, and oh so true.
You get done with one of his posts and you end up with a bit of lint in one hand, a bit more fluff in another, and a bad case of hot air burn around your eyes
ncscoots
February 1st, 2011
6:42 pm
[800 runs for the Braves] seems kinda far-fetched to me.
Especially since no team in the league reached that last year, did they? Year of the pitcher, and all that? And maybe it’s just my confirmation bias, LOL, but it seems to me that the starting pitching in the league is a notch better than last year. On paper, at least. 800 might be tough for anybody this year, is what I’m saying.
nolie
February 1st, 2011
6:42 pm
sorry KL I am too long away from that aspect to be cognizant of current costs.
Despite what some here think I don’t talk about stuff that I have no real knowledge of.
TennBravesFan
February 1st, 2011
6:45 pm
DOB…..or anyone else who can answer this question:
Wasn’t Chipper thrown out of a game while on the DL? If he was, don’t the rules say he will be suspended for a game? This means he may not actually be the “opening day” third baseman.
ncscoots
February 1st, 2011
6:47 pm
Despite what some here think I don’t talk about stuff that I have no real knowledge of.
What numbletard thinks that? Point him out.
CB
February 1st, 2011
6:51 pm
scoots,I hope you caught Couch Tater’s confirmation bias remark directed at you this morning around 7:00am.
nolie
February 1st, 2011
6:54 pm
TBF I think I read somewhere that was dropped, but I’m not positive. I’ll look around and see if I can find what i am thinking of.
Bravefaninok
February 1st, 2011
6:58 pm
http://twitter.com/ajcbraves/status/32510698621771776
this tweet by DOB says it all
nolie
February 1st, 2011
7:00 pm
thanx BFOk
nolie
February 1st, 2011
7:04 pm
gee even when i admit that I’m not sure i am right, I am right. good thing I am so humble or that might go to my head
CB
February 1st, 2011
7:05 pm
Shut up,nolie.
Just Pat
February 1st, 2011
7:06 pm
TnBraveFan
This was addressed on DOB’s (I think) Twitter…..no, he will NOT hafta serve the suspension.
nolie
February 1st, 2011
7:08 pm
yes sir CB
CB
February 1st, 2011
7:13 pm
: mr green :
CB
February 1st, 2011
7:14 pm
Well, McEased that.
TennesseePaul
February 1st, 2011
7:14 pm
As much as I point out that the phrase “expanding payroll” has resulted in a stagnant payroll or inflation adjusted payroll reduction, I’d still rather have these complaints about the Braves owners than to be pulling up SI or FoxSports or ESPN and seeing the owner of my favorite team dragged into court for affiliation with a Ponzi scheme. I do find it ironic that my least favorite franchise in baseball is at the center of this mess.
nolie
February 1st, 2011
7:15 pm
I ainta gonna say a thing mr green
nolie
February 1st, 2011
7:16 pm
but I do have a good link for using smileys for sale
cabravesfan
February 1st, 2011
7:18 pm
:mr.green:
cabravesfan
February 1st, 2011
7:18 pm
or not…
I hate computers.
Trey
February 1st, 2011
7:19 pm
:mr green:
CB
February 1st, 2011
7:20 pm
cab,welcome to the dummy club,lol
Trey
February 1st, 2011
7:20 pm
TennBravesFan
February 1st, 2011
7:20 pm
Thanks for answering my Chipper question.
Trey
February 1st, 2011
7:21 pm
How’s it going?
cabravesfan
February 1st, 2011
7:22 pm
Trey-
That’s not actually why I hate computers. My work machine just completely went to crap on me, in a rather spectacular fashion…No internet, no e-mail, and it took me three attempts just to get the damn thing to shut off…
nolie
February 1st, 2011
7:22 pm
buncah DOHs here tonight I see
Trey
February 1st, 2011
7:22 pm
I read about Chipper and it looks like he is coming together nicely. Knocking covers off of balls is definitely a good sign.
cabravesfan
February 1st, 2011
7:22 pm
Trey
February 1st, 2011
7:24 pm
“That’s not actually why I hate computers. My work machine just completely went to crap on me, in a rather spectacular fashion…No internet, no e-mail, and it took me three attempts just to get the damn thing to shut off…”
? I was just trying to see if I could get Mr. Green to work. I saw everyone else trying to figure it out.
nolie
February 1st, 2011
7:24 pm
including moi obviously. buncah??
nolie
February 1st, 2011
7:24 pm
Buncah Hill
cabravesfan
February 1st, 2011
7:25 pm
Trey-
I know
I’m just super annoyed and need to vent…
Trey
February 1st, 2011
7:25 pm
“Buncah Hill”
Jonah Hill
nolie
February 1st, 2011
7:26 pm
I see your priorities are in order. As soon as it started working you came right back here
cabravesfan
February 1st, 2011
7:26 pm
Trey-
Sorry! I guess that should have been directed at CB- I thought it was you that said it
Trey
February 1st, 2011
7:27 pm
Cab, yeah I don’t blame ya. I would be too if my computer was acting up.
cabravesfan
February 1st, 2011
7:27 pm
nolie-
Nope- it’s still not working. I’m on the laptop now, which I can’t work from because it doesn’t have the software that I need…
Trey
February 1st, 2011
7:27 pm
cab, notta problem.
Bravefaninok
February 1st, 2011
7:28 pm
No internet, no e-mail, and it took me three attempts just to get the damn thing to shut off…
Those are classic symptoms of a nasty virus.