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Bat Masterson
January 31st, 2011
10:14 pm
Trey_
That was for cab.
N8
January 31st, 2011
10:14 pm
So at 5:59, nolie decides to post a quote from my 2:30 posting. The following is said quote:
“And at some point you have to have the balls as a GM to make tough decisions.” N8
To which nolie responds:
“aah. no balls huh? how ’bout Glavine and Smoltz? sigh”
Here is the entire first paragraph (no editing – just simply copied and pasted it), of that 2:30 post in which he took the quote, and then made his little snarky remark:
But do you really think he was going anywhere else? And at some point you have to have the balls as a GM to make tough decisions. Wren has shown he has those balls based on what he did with Glavine and Smoltz (and not to mention leaving Ripken behind at the airport).” N8 @ 2:30
I think the old man is losing it! I get that my posts get long winded and perhaps some occasionally sound points get lost in the shuffle. But when you’re so damn quick to copy and paste a quote and then attack it…… with a point that damn near cites what I said word for word in the NEXT FRICKIN’ SENTENCE????
Funny how I’m always accused as the guy who likes to argue for the sake of arguing and rattling the boat, huh?
Anyhow, glad we agree nolie.
tiger297
January 31st, 2011
10:15 pm
I’m here N8 what can we argue about
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
10:15 pm
Even open milk only lasts a few days…My question was more along the lines of buying several milks or like an entire shopping cart full of bread…I just don’t get that…
Trey
January 31st, 2011
10:15 pm
Bat, oh. Well, that’s what the Ward was arrested for on the article.
Bat Masterson
January 31st, 2011
10:17 pm
Ah I see,Trey.
tiger297
January 31st, 2011
10:18 pm
ok N8 that was supposed to be a regular smiley face I’m not flirting with you
cabravesfan – so normally the storm only puts people inside for a few days (5 days if it is really bad and its atlanta). And most people will buy a couple gallons of milk and maybe 2 loaves of bread. But when everybody buys it on the same day as opposed to spread out over the course of a week the Supply Chain for grocery stores can’t keep up.
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
10:20 pm
Just seems awfully panicky to me… but what do I know? It was 62 degrees here today and my mom was wearing a sweater AND a down vest…
Bravefaninok
January 31st, 2011
10:21 pm
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
10:15 pm
Even open milk only lasts a few days…My question was more along the lines of buying several milks or like an entire shopping cart full of bread…I just don’t get that…
We have a 14 yr old and 17 yr old boys i bought 3 loaves of bread and sandwich meats…..just 1 fresh gallon of milk and a couple bags of cereal. No cart fulls,but i get your point.
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
10:23 pm
Bravefaninok-
With 2 teenage boys, that’s probably a normal shopping week for you
N8
January 31st, 2011
10:23 pm
BTW, I didn’t see if anybody responded to my post earlier about which GM (Wren or JS) was “responsible” or on the clock when Delgado and Teheran were obtained.
It was JS. Wren took over in the off-season that followed the 2007 season.
Julio Teheran was signed as an undrafted free agent in the summer of 2006 and Randall Delgado’s path was the same in 2006.
So, with Hanson, Heyward, Freeman, Teheran and Delgado already in place before the “buck” began stopping at Frank Wren, the future was set up very nicely for Wren to have smooth sailing provided he doesn’t just give those guys away. Which he hasn’t so far.
Which of course, is very nice for all of us. Unless you one of the few morons who wanted to trade Hanson for Peavy or any other number of hair-brained ideas in recent off-seasons involving our young stable of talent.
N8
January 31st, 2011
10:24 pm
it’s all good tiger. LOL.
what? You expected me to argue with you about it, didn’t you? Sorry man. Not gonna happen.
Tom O'Hawke
January 31st, 2011
10:24 pm
It’s going down to 7 tonight. 0 on Thursday night. If we lose power, my beer will freeze!
Bravefaninok
January 31st, 2011
10:24 pm
It was 50 degrees @ 3 pm now its 28degrees and starting to sleet,The freezing rain is coming next then turn to snow overnight with 25-50mph winds……BRRRRRRRRRRRR.
keylargo
January 31st, 2011
10:25 pm
I remember when the Braves signed Mark Redman in 07. It was late spring but he said he was in shape and ready to pitch. After about 6 starts and an ERA over 10 he revealed he had been working out by pitching to his wife in his basement.
Playoffs!!!!
January 31st, 2011
10:25 pm
If the power goes out, you can put the milk outside
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
10:25 pm
mmmmmm….beer slushees!
N8
January 31st, 2011
10:25 pm
Teheran was signed as an undrafted free agent in 2007. Delgado was 2006.
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
10:26 pm
Hope those beers are in cans, Tom.
Bravefaninok
January 31st, 2011
10:29 pm
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
10:23 pm
Bravefaninok-
With 2 teenage boys, that’s probably a normal shopping week for you
Well yeah but we werent ready for them to be home from school for the extra days….We needed to go stock up anyway but just wasnt ready.
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
10:30 pm
Bravefaninok-
That’s true- forgot about kids being home from school (like I said, what do I know?
)
N8
January 31st, 2011
10:31 pm
“It was 50 degrees @ 3 pm now its 28degrees and starting to sleet,The freezing rain is coming next then turn to snow overnight with 25-50mph winds……BRRRRRRRRRRRR.”
My current temperature outside is -6. With an overnight forcast of -40 to -50 below zero with the wind chill. I’ve shoveled mine and my dad’s driveway 3 times each since Friday and have literally nowhere else to put snow at either place. Might actaully have to call somebody to come remove it.
But yeah, dropping from 50 degrees to 28 and having that wind on top of it is no fun. It was in the upper 30’s and lower 40’s here late last week. I’m gonna go with not many other places in the US where there can be near a 50-60 degree temperature increase and then decrease 80-90 degreees within a span of 10 days.
But hey…. my kids can walk 3 blocks to the park in the summer and I literally have no worries about them dying or disappearing on an hourly basis. Apparently kidnappers and molestors don’t like the cold.
Bravefaninok
January 31st, 2011
10:37 pm
. Apparently kidnappers and molestors don’t like the cold. N8
that is funny,good stuff!
Tom O'Hawke
January 31st, 2011
10:39 pm
Yes, cabravesfan, cans. Those long durations in the Catskills caused me to go from glass to aluminum, several years back. The bottles were becoming a pain in the butt to transport back and forth.
Bravefaninok
January 31st, 2011
10:46 pm
Goodnight folks,stay warm(unless your on the beach)….take care,Only 2 weeks til pitchers and catchers report.
Kat
January 31st, 2011
10:48 pm
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
10:13 pm
Kat-
It’s still a Snow Day! We don’t even have real seasons!
——————–
I think this northeast saying states it the best. We have four seasons Almost Winter, Winter, Still Winter and Construction. So we too don’t have real seasons either
Duke
January 31st, 2011
10:50 pm
DOB, Dead Confederate came down to Valdosta last weekend and put on a good show. I like that dude’s voice a lot. Have you listened to much of their stuff?
On another note; good signing of Lopez. Never hurts to have too many major league ready pitchers. Plus, if he pitches well in the minors the Yankees are always in need a starter it seems.
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
11:00 pm
Kat-
Sounds like us but it’s more Summer, Just past Summer, Early Summer and Soon-to-be Summer
DAP
January 31st, 2011
11:01 pm
its 46 degrees here right now. yesterday during the day was 65 and sunny.
we dont just talk about cold, crappy weather on here, do we?
Venice Jim
January 31st, 2011
11:02 pm
I don’t know about that – I noticed about three weeks of actual summer last year…
Tom O'Hawke
January 31st, 2011
11:05 pm
Kat, just tell cabravesfan to shaddup!
Venice Jim
January 31st, 2011
11:25 pm
Apparently, Tom’s wrath has cause everyone to remain quiet…
Tom O'Hawke
January 31st, 2011
11:28 pm
That’s power, buddy.
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
11:31 pm
Or it’s just mean and nobody wants to talk to you anymore
Tom O'Hawke
January 31st, 2011
11:34 pm
Yeah…. or that.
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
11:36 pm
We used to have a saying that LA had 4 seasons: Earthquakes, Fires, Mudslides and Riots, but it doesn’t really apply anymore- we haven’t had a good riot in quite some time…
richbrave
January 31st, 2011
11:36 pm
TOM O’:
You all stocked up on everything you need to hibrenate ’til spring there in N.Y.?
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
11:37 pm
Tom does his hibernating in the summer time
Tom O'Hawke
January 31st, 2011
11:39 pm
richbrave, from earlier when I thought you were still aboard.
Tom O’Hawke
January 31st, 2011
9:18 pm
Go get milk, bread, and food in general. Set up the aux. power generator with lots of gasoline, flashlights with good batteries, or lots of cured wood if you have a wood-stove. Getting out of your home in about 18-24 hours is going to become problematic at best for a few days. Thank god, we’re being spared.
richbrave
Thanks, buddy, but I always keep an eye on the forecast. My “necessity supply list” was a smidge different than the one you suggested, however. I just unloaded 4 cases of beer.
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
11:41 pm
I just unloaded 4 cases of beer.
Of which 3 are left…
richbrave
January 31st, 2011
11:41 pm
TOM O’:
“…….Thanks, buddy, but I always keep an eye on the forecast. My “necessity supply list” was a smidge different than the one you suggested, however. I just unloaded 4 cases of beer……..”
Now you’re talkin’ HAWKIN’. Been away at a WIZARDS fun-fest as they march steadily toward setting an NBA record for futility on the road. Just catching up on my reading.
Tom O'Hawke
January 31st, 2011
11:41 pm
we haven’t had a good riot in quite some time…
It’s nice to see that the LAPD is behaving themselves.
cabravesfan
January 31st, 2011
11:42 pm
It’s nice to see that the LAPD is behaving themselves.
OK- I have to admit that made me giggle
Tom O'Hawke
January 31st, 2011
11:44 pm
…march steadily toward setting an NBA record for futility on the road
richbrave
January 31st, 2011
11:55 pm
MARK REDMAN is not TODD REDMOND right? Damn what a warp. Maybe I had a six of TOM’s suds and don’t realize it. I feel like Corporal UPHAM in SAVING PRIVATE RYAN……”there’s….no ‘FUBAR’ in the GERMAN dictionary.”
richbrave
January 31st, 2011
11:58 pm
Boo-Yah, one minute to the official beginning of countdown to report date
Tom O'Hawke
January 31st, 2011
11:59 pm
I was wondering where the hell they went!
richbrave
February 1st, 2011
12:00 am
And-d-d-d we’re off………February is officially here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tom O'Hawke
February 1st, 2011
12:00 am
Official according to whom, richbrave?
richbrave
February 1st, 2011
12:01 am
TOM O’:
Tried any AUDIO LOTION yet.???????
richbrave
February 1st, 2011
12:02 am
The clock.
Venice Jim
February 1st, 2011
12:03 am
It’s not February here…
Venice Jim
February 1st, 2011
12:04 am
East Coast elitist richbrave…
richbrave
February 1st, 2011
12:04 am
TOM O’:
Gotta’ run, toodles all.
richbrave
February 1st, 2011
12:05 am
Venice Jim
February 1st, 2011
12:04 am
East Coast elitist richbrave…
True, too true, and handsome also. Nite VJ.
Tom O'Hawke
February 1st, 2011
12:08 am
Tried any AUDIO LOTION yet.???????
Not yet, but I’ll have plenty of time the next to days between shovelings.
Soups on, gotta go. I’ll be seeing you fine people shortly. Good night.
cabravesfan
February 1st, 2011
12:08 am
Night richbrave! Night Tom!
Tom O'Hawke
February 1st, 2011
12:09 am
“to”? I seemed to have a dearth of a “w”.
Murph
February 1st, 2011
12:25 am
A lot of people putting Nate in at leadoff. That’s a lot to ask of a guy who hit .190 last season.
Even if he bounces back to a more normal Nate-like season he’ll be at .250 with a .335 OBP.
I’m not seeing it.
nolie
February 1st, 2011
12:32 am
His American Leauge ERA of 5.00 translates to about a 3.80 in the N.L PO
how do you figure that? there is not that much difference between the two
nolie
February 1st, 2011
12:35 am
then why the hell say it N8. if he obviously has cajones?
and I’m pretty sure no valid points were made let alone lost
nolie
February 1st, 2011
12:43 am
Even if he bounces back to a more normal Nate-like season he’ll be at .250 with a .335 OBP murph
then you should look harder. the last 3 years B4 2010 his OBP was over 350, not 335 which was because of his first two seasons . as I have posted numerous times he was in the top 10 of all CFers three years in a row, once in the top 5.
keylargo
February 1st, 2011
12:45 am
His American Leauge ERA of 5.00 translates to about a 3.80 in the N.L PO
how do you figure that? there is not that much difference between the two
Especially since he played in the National League last year.
keylargo
February 1st, 2011
12:47 am
His American Leauge ERA of 5.00 translates to about a 3.80 in the N.L PO
how do you figure that? there is not that much difference between the two
Especially since he played in the NL last year.
nolie
February 1st, 2011
12:48 am
yeah actually he has been in the NL since 2007, though I admit it was in tough parks.
nolie
February 1st, 2011
1:21 am
any way no reason not to sign him to a low cost contract even if the odds are long, he might be a help.
nolie
February 1st, 2011
1:23 am
Wren didn’t really need any cojones for that huh N8?
Ward
February 1st, 2011
1:26 am
Hello my fellow friends! I wonder if Lopez could be our exrta inning guy if needed…..Did you guy’s know chipper is going through a work with tendinitois in his knee after surgery….Hope it doesn’t affect him to much……
haggard
February 1st, 2011
1:27 am
“Let it snow, let it snow (hic), let it snow”–Tom O’Hawke@9:30
I’m still laughing and will never be able to listen to Johnny Mathis sing that song again without imagining him slurring the words. Or maybe I’ll just imagine Dean Martin singing, who did slur the words..
Ward
February 1st, 2011
1:30 am
Now that we have Lopez. Could K.K. be traded for a back up middle in-fielder…….
David O'Brien
February 1st, 2011
1:30 am
Duke, I like Dead Confederate. I don’t think they’ve matched their excellent debut EP yet in either of their two full-length albums, but I like ‘em. Seen them a couple of times at The Earl.
Ward
February 1st, 2011
1:32 am
Will Chipper remain Healthy, or will Tendinitis bother his knee……
David O'Brien
February 1st, 2011
1:34 am
I remember when the Braves signed Mark Redman in 07. It was late spring but he said he was in shape and ready to pitch. After about 6 starts and an ERA over 10 he revealed he had been working out by pitching to his wife in his basement. — keylargo
As Roger Clemens would say, you’re misremembering.
Redman said from the day he was signed that he’d been throwing on the mound in his basement all winter to keep in shape. We wrote about that right away.
Ward
February 1st, 2011
1:35 am
Black Crows, Red Scorpion,Fire House are real cool bands…….
haggard
February 1st, 2011
1:38 am
Ward
Chipper says tendinitis was a part of his last rehab on the same knee and explains a recurrence was expected. However, he’s “a bit” older this time around, so I guess we’ll have to keep our fingers crossed. It would be great to see him bounce back at age 39 like Mays did: .291/28/83. I know it’s a stretch, but…………….
Ward
February 1st, 2011
1:42 am
haggard: I hope so, I’m rooting for Chipper…… I read the blog from earlier.Good thing I let Murph take some of the beating today……Ha! Ha!Ha A small joke……
haggard
February 1st, 2011
1:45 am
Ward
I guess it’s tough staying on top, huh? Like the old saying goes: If you’re gonna walk in a mine field, walk behind somebody.
nolie
February 1st, 2011
1:45 am
as is Whitesnake ward
nolie
February 1st, 2011
1:47 am
no,please, after you ward
Ward
February 1st, 2011
1:47 am
Offspring is a good band too…..
nolie
February 1st, 2011
1:49 am
you next hag, I don’t mind taking the rear
Ward
February 1st, 2011
1:49 am
Nolie: Interesting in getting Lopez.Now we will have to see what happens to K.K.
haggard
February 1st, 2011
1:52 am
David O’Brien
Did you see the second installment of “American Masters” featuring Jeff Bridges? Probably the most interesting observation–IMO–came from Sam Peckinpah, who explained that while father Lloyd Bridges was alive, he felt Jeff sort of “held back” and didn’t veture out as an actor because he was afraid of eclipsing what his dad had accomplished. That’s how he explains the wide range of projects Bridges has chosen the past few years.
BravesAC
February 1st, 2011
1:53 am
The baseball magazines are out and I was reading the Sporting News mag, I believe, and they have a section in each teams’ blurb called something like “another take” where they quote unamed sources on the team being reviewed. In the Braves take, an unamed scout called the Braves “a mess”. Poorly constructed and Uggla will kill ya comments were in there too. I was burning mad reading it on how can that source be so far off base.
But in the Phillie’s same section, they mention Howard’s horrible contract for a declining player, and how Ibanez kills ya in the field no matter where he plays. I thought “wow unamed source, I couldn’t agree more!”
As an aside, the same blurb mentioned how Toronto leaned on Halladay too much and that he gets a much easier ride in Philly.
haggard
February 1st, 2011
1:54 am
Ward
Switching from that lower case has it’s consequences too.
haggard
February 1st, 2011
1:56 am
nolie
I’ve got your back.
haggard
February 1st, 2011
2:00 am
David O’Brien
Peckinpah added he thought son Jeff had long eclipsed his father’s accomplishments prior to Lloyd’s passing.
Ward
February 1st, 2011
2:02 am
Murph: Will be O.K. He knows I’m only joking…..
Ward
February 1st, 2011
2:04 am
There are a lot of people that don’t like the Braves,so they will say any thing to destroy the organization…….People picked against the Braves last year too.
BravesAC
February 1st, 2011
2:05 am
Haggard -
Saw a Sam Peckinpah movie last night, one of his very early ones – Ride The High Country with Joel McRea and Randolph Scott. Scott’s last movie, and one of McRea’s last too. About two old cowboys on a last job – pretty dang good. Had a young Marriete Hartley too – not a bad looker! I do remember seeing Peckinpah’s Wild Bunch in the movie theater and wondering how all the realism got past the censors. It was something back then.
haggard
February 1st, 2011
2:11 am
nolie
You’ve really got me re-evaluating the whole Western genre and I’m truly enjoying a lot of performances with a newfound respect. And I didn’t know until tonight that John Wayne had performed the leading role in more movies than anyone else, ever.(Of all places, I believe that fact came from an episode of “Pawn Stars”). If you have a list of, say, 10 of your all-time favorites, lay ‘em on me when you have a mind to.
Murph
February 1st, 2011
2:12 am
the last 3 years B4 2010 his OBP was over 350, not 335 which was because of his first two seasons
Look, Nate’s career OBP is .337 for a reason. I don’t really care what where he ranked 3 previous years but not counting last year but after his first 2 bad years, fact is his OBP last season was .298.
Why do you assume he’s going to magically return to some pre-2010 form, but only his 2007-2009 form, not his 2005-2006 form, when last season he set a new bar for how bad a starting CF can be.
I hope you’re right, but you know the old saying… Hope in one hand and poop in the other and see which fills up first.
haggard
February 1st, 2011
2:18 am
BarvesAC
When you mentioned Peckinpah and Randolph Scott in the same sentence, I didn’t know how that would be possible–the overlap didn’t seem to work–until you mentioned it was Scott’s last movie. And Mariett Hartley; I haven’t thought of her since those great Polaroid commercials she did with James Garner when I was in grammar school. Sort of like Barbara Bel Geddess, whom I only knew as Miss Ellie on “Dallas” until I saw her in Hitchcock’s “Vertigo”. She was a looker in her day too.
And I’ll put “Ride The High Country” on my list to see. Thanks.
Murph
February 1st, 2011
2:19 am
I read the blog from earlier.Good thing I let Murph take some of the beating today
The Boras thing? Pfffft. That wasn’t much of a beating. I don’t like the guy, don’t care what he’s accomplished, and nobody can make me think otherwise. He could get his client a $1bil contract and all it would do is make me cringe, not stand up and applaud.
Ward
February 1st, 2011
2:22 am
Murph buddy: I agree with you, don’t like Boras either. He is bad for baseball period….
Ward
February 1st, 2011
2:23 am
Free agency is bad for baseball…….
haggard
February 1st, 2011
2:35 am
“When it’s sleepytime down south”
Goodnight good folks
Ward
February 1st, 2011
2:45 am
Baseball is suposed to be a game for the ages. It Americas Past-Time, and The Free agency has turned it into a money, making ,greedy buisness. More players make more money than the President of The United States now, and is growing out of control.Bud S. is the Blame for it too,and the New York Yankees.It’s up to the commissioner to stop this,but he hasn’t tried too.Baseball should never have become a buisness game at all.It’s a game for fun,and pure enjoyment.Money should never have gotten involved. It’s only a matter of time,before money destroys the sport we love entirely.It’s up to the owners,,and players to decide if they love the game,or love money……Baseball should be a game for fun,and not the enjoyment of money…….I hope someday the players will see that,because I love the game, and hope some day greed will stop…….
Ward
February 1st, 2011
2:47 am
Nite all,and peace……
N8
February 1st, 2011
2:53 am
“then why the hell say it N8. if he obviously has cajones? nolie
You picked one quote that made it look like I was griping about giving him that contract and didn’t have the balls to walk away. When in reality, at the time the contract looked fine and might end up (in hindsight) being a bad deal for the Braves over the 4 years of the deal.
It would have taken REAL balls on his behalf to have let Chipper walk if he (chipper) wanted more than 2 years and an option, had he chosen to do so.
By giving Chipper the 4 years, he wasn’t “caving” at the time. But if you look at a team like the NE Patriots (yeah, I know…. different sport without guaranteed contracts), they always seem to let a guy go (even popular players) one or two years too early, rather than lock themselves down with bad contracts to older players.
I’ll repeat it AGAIN. I don’t remember my sentiment at the time of the extention. I probably was happy he was remaining a Brave. But as a fan probably would have quickly gotten over it had he let him walk (knowing what we know now).
I can say that I do remember the following. I was PISSED off to no end when word of Smoltz going to Boston broke. But once it became known that Wren offered him a fair deal with the chance for Smoltz to EARN about the same amount of money had he been healthy and pitched great (something he wasn’t and didn’t for the Sox), that looked like one of the smartest moves he has made as a GM. No matter how unpopular it looked at that moment.
Similar to the Chipper contract, in hindsight it sure looks like Wren could have let him walk and we really wouldn’t be out much the past two years (and possibly wouldn’t be out much in the NEXT two years).
This isn’t about me disliking Chipper Jones or disrespecting what he’s done and meant to the Braves.
He’s not a “hero” for taking less money to be where HE wanted to be, playing for a manager that he adored (and still does), remaining close to his kids, family and friends and staying on a roster that was stacked through his first couple of chances at free agency.
Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, Big Cat, Andruw, McGriff etc… ALL took less money to remain Braves (or become one in Maddux’s case in 93), at some point.
The contract (Chippers’) hasn’t hindered the Braves (yet) at competing or putting a good team on the field. But if he can’t play this year and Brooks Conrad is our best replacement option, it surely did (in hindsight) hinder Wren from having the dollars to get a viable replacement this winter.
That being said, if Chipper rebounds, all is good. I’m not sure if he can do it. That’s not a knock on him. Dude is pushing 40 years old. It happens. Guys not on steroids don’t recover well in their late 30’s from bad seasons and major injuries.
If that makes me a hater? So be it.
I’m not calling Wren out for NOT letting Chipper walk. I simply stated it would have take some major nuts to do so after he won the batting title.
What’s so hard to understand about that?
You can back-peddle all you want and spin this into a “why even say it then?” type of deal. But the bottom line is that you mocked me for ignoring the Glavine/Smoltz moves by Wren, when one sentence after you quoted me in the same post, I brought it up.
Talk about the strawman crying “Hay!”…..