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sidslidkid
January 25th, 2011
10:16 pm
I hope we can see Tehran in the bullpen in September. Hopefully we won’t have a need or room for him as a starter this year.
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:18 pm
They have Delgado ranked # 141
Righthander Randall Delgado is a wiry power pitcher with three quality pitches and developing control. His fastball, which can touch 95, lives more in the 92mph range with significant late movement. His control is about where you’d expect it to be in such a youngster: some days he can blow hitters away, while on other days he looks lost on the mound. Starting in High-A Rome and ending in AA Mississippi, Delgado put together a composite 7-12 record in 2010, though he’s a better pitcher than that suggests. He’s likely to stay there for 2011
keylargo
January 25th, 2011
10:19 pm
Here’s a great picture of Fort Jefferson:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Fort-Jefferson_Dry-Tortugas.jpg&imgrefurl=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fort-Jefferson_Dry-Tortugas.jpg&h=796&w=1200&sz=1038&tbnid=IIw4ZB15XOVYdM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfort%2Bjefferson&zoom=1&q=fort+jefferson&usg=__oHP2ijsCn7999pIbuvL2ltTmjIA=&sa=X&ei=UZI_TcaMIIOCgAfHzdigAw&ved=0CCcQ9QEwAA
tiger297
January 25th, 2011
10:19 pm
DOB – would Gaylord Hotel be a good place to stay (location wise) if I were going to spend a few days at Spring Training?
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:20 pm
Vizcaino # 67
The Yankees top international signee back in 2007, righthander Arodys Vizcaino was one of the team’s top prospects when he moved to Atlanta as part of the trade that sent Javier Vazquez back to the Bronx. His fastball hovers in the low 90s, but should get harder as he matures. He complements that with an already-superb curve and a developing change. His development over the next year in Atlanta’s pitching labs will determine whether he’s starter or bullpen material, but he’s already proven he can pitch rather than just throw: in 2009, he posted a 1.16 WHIP and a 2.13 ERA in 42 innings of work at short-season Staten Island
Efrim
January 25th, 2011
10:21 pm
Thanks for the posts, nolie!
Trout at #7 is probably the lowest I’ve seen him ranked anywhere. Right now, if you’re an Angels fan, he’s the only thing to hang your hat on. I’d be so mad if the Braves ever made such a ridiculous trade like the one that brought them Wells.
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
10:21 pm
This Teheran Cat is playing with me…Word on The Street is that he has the Credientials of a young Pedro Martinez…?
I just wonder if McDowell is gonna start Pitching Camp Early for the fact that there are so many new young guys (1st/2nd year players-BB, M&M, Kimmie, Vennie-Macc) in the Bullpen as compared to last year and a mix of veterans from Outside the organization….?
Petey-Pablo and Easy E are the only holdovers from the Braves Pen from 2009…They are the Vets in that pen now…
I hope Petey Pablo does some Kerry Ligtenberg Sideburns or something along those lines…anything but one of those Stoopid Mo-Hawks
P'cola Brave
January 25th, 2011
10:22 pm
I hope Delgado develops. Holding onto him is putting a lot stock in him for our future. Freeman and Teheran excite me. Still not sure what to suspect of Minor. Is he a top of the rotation guy or lower end?
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:22 pm
Kimbrell # 79
.A fireplug righty in the Jon Broxton fashion, Kimbrel is the Braves’ number one closer prospect. His heavy fastball touches 96, and when he mixes in his plus slider, he’s near-unhittable. The Braves Minor League Pitcher of the Year in 2009, he proved valuable in the major league bullpen in 2010, and he looks like the favorite for saves in 2011, though new manager Fredi Gonzalez isn’t likely to let him handle too much pressure too soon
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:22 pm
They obviously have MUCH less regard for Delgado than we do.
Efrim
January 25th, 2011
10:25 pm
They obviously have MUCH less regard for Delgado than we do.
Yeah, but he’ll be top 100 for Law, Baseball America, and Baseball Prospectus. I’d bet he’s Top 100 for MLB.com too, if it went that far.
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:26 pm
Trout at #7 is probably the lowest I’ve seen him ranked anywhere Efrim
GREAT numbers but he is still low enough in the minors for legitimate differences of opinion I guess. Very promising no doubt.
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
10:26 pm
And I’m Really Suprised That this issue hasn’t been Talked about on here nor on 680AM the Fan…
What Happens If Chipper Goes Down again or has a season like 2009-10 again…? Who will be his Heir-Apparent in the Future…?
Danga
January 25th, 2011
10:26 pm
Their stat in the Delgado blurb was a won-loss record. Lame.
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:27 pm
you think so Ef? I’m not quite as sure of that (about Delgado) but I hope you’re right.
Danga
January 25th, 2011
10:28 pm
And kudos for TP for keeping it classy. Nice interview DOB.
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:29 pm
what do you mean it hasn’t been touched on T’? It’s been talked about all winter. Man you gotta stop partying so much
McFann O O
January 25th, 2011
10:30 pm
Snotboogie Do people ever learn! Tsk tsk.
I know, right?
P'cola Brave
January 25th, 2011
10:31 pm
t-hawkin
I thought Prado was Chippers heir-apparent. At least thats what I’ve heard. Thats been my biggest gripe. We aren’t really prepared for Chipper to go down like we have in the past.
GTSteve
January 25th, 2011
10:31 pm
TH..if big Hoss goes down…I think a couple of the pitchers named on this page will be moved for the replacement….even though I don’t have a clue who it would be for
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:32 pm
Danga I think they were using that as an indicator of how inconsistent he has been, which is what I have heard a lot. We’ll see what he does. I think he is better than what he has consistently shown so far, he still has time to settle down.
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
10:32 pm
What Happened to Cody Johnson…?
Pameee
January 25th, 2011
10:34 pm
Between 5:30 and 6:00 pm it was on 680 the fan. The thought was that Prado is the certain replacement. The problem is who will take overleft field. The trade value the Braves own will be used to fill left.
tiger297
January 25th, 2011
10:34 pm
nolie – have you heard anything about Salcedo at SS? I think I heard Wren mention it at one of the season ticket holder presentations when asked about long term 3B solution.
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
10:34 pm
P’cola Brave
“t-hawkin
I thought Prado was Chippers heir-apparent. At least thats what I’ve heard. Thats been my biggest gripe. We aren’t really prepared for Chipper to go down like we have in the past.”
Good Point…Since UGG is Locked Up, Then I would Imagine That Martini would be Chipper’s Heir Apparent…The only other place I see Martini playing is SS but I’m Lusting for seeing Jose Reyes there after 2012…
Danga
January 25th, 2011
10:35 pm
No one player will be able to replace Chipper. Heyward will have to become his replacement in the lineup. McCann will likely be the leader in the clubhouse and unofficial team captain. And Prado will likely play his position in the field.
Efrim
January 25th, 2011
10:35 pm
Definitely be Top 100 on all of em. He was last year for Law, and I don’t think he hurt his stock this year. BA will have him in there too. Vizcaino could drop completely out because of the injury. But I expect Teheran, Freeman, Minor, and Delgado to be Top 100 for most all lists. He pitched as a 20 year old last year, and put up some pretty good rate stats. Only turning 21 in Feb. To already have 40 innings in Double-A at that age is impressive, imo.
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:35 pm
Depends on what they find easiest to acquire i suspect. They can move Prado to third and look for an OFer of keep him in left and look for a third bagger. It is usually easier to find an OFer with a certain level of performance than it is a third guy, and maybe cheaper too, but they will have options. I think they will try to move Prado and look for an OFer first
tiger297
January 25th, 2011
10:35 pm
that should have read Salcedo for 3B not SS
yogi2
January 25th, 2011
10:35 pm
I believe C Johnson was sold to the Yankees
McFann O O
January 25th, 2011
10:36 pm
Danga McCann will likely be the leader in the clubhouse and unofficial team captain.
Totally.
P'cola Brave
January 25th, 2011
10:37 pm
T-Hawk
I hate Reyes with a passion. Hell of a player but he rubs me the wrong way. I don’t like the way he acts. I would much rather see the money spent on LF if Chipper retires and fill SS with a cheaper option.
Pameee
January 25th, 2011
10:37 pm
Danga
January 25th, 2011
10:35 pm
No one player will be able to replace Chipper. Heyward will have to become his replacement in the lineup. McCann will likely be the leader in the clubhouse and unofficial team captain. And Prado will likely play his position in the field.
Well Said and I now rest my case…
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
10:37 pm
Pameee
“Between 5:30 and 6:00 pm it was on 680 the fan. The thought was that Prado is the certain replacement. The problem is who will take overleft field. The trade value the Braves own will be used to fill left.”
Buck and Kincade Were Talking About That? If So then I’m In Shock
Good thing is we got over 40 mill coming off the Books after the 2012 season…If you negate the Arb Raises/etc then we will have about 20 mil to spend (guessimating) but its to early to speculate
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:39 pm
that site ranked Salcedo around # 100 which is pretty good IMO considering how poorly he played last year. They must expect him to improve a lot.
Delgado is the one that stands out as being much different from what many of us think.
P'cola Brave
January 25th, 2011
10:39 pm
tiger
Salcedo is a long way off. At least a few years. Only 18 plus he struggled on his promotion to A ball.
Pameee
January 25th, 2011
10:39 pm
Yeah, they basically said that Chipper will be fine.
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:40 pm
a coupla old friends Max Ramirez and Flowers were both still ranked in the 70s
keylargo
January 25th, 2011
10:41 pm
They needed a spot on the 40 man roster and sent Cody Johnson to the Yankees.
Braves trade Cody Johnson to Yankees
According to the Newark Star-Ledger, the Braves traded outfielder Cody Johnson to the Yankees for cash considerations.
Our View: Johnson, a 2006 first-round pick, hasn’t made an MLB impact since being drafted, but he’s still a young prospect with upside as a power bat. The 22-year-old hit .212 with 18 home runs and 60 RBI in the minors last season, and he’ll be given a chance to become the DH of the future.
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
10:41 pm
P-Cola Brave
When J. Reyes is on his Game, then He is the Deion Sanders of baseball…The player that every fan loves to hate but respects his game…
2012 or 2013
Reyes
Martini
J-Hey
1-2-3 in the lineup to start games =’s Nasty, but It won’t happen…But I’m getting Turned on just thinking about it though!
McFann O O
January 25th, 2011
10:41 pm
Oh lord…I packed up a badge with the name “Flowers” on it today, and I thought of Tyler.
keylargo
January 25th, 2011
10:42 pm
The same 40 man roster spot “retired” Billy Wagner has occupied.
Danga
January 25th, 2011
10:42 pm
I think they were using that as an indicator of how inconsistent he has been
I suppose it works from that perspective. The value of conversation. Still distrustful of a W-L record as an indicator of skill or ability.
tiger297
January 25th, 2011
10:42 pm
yeah the discussion was a couple of years ago (before he actually started playing)
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:42 pm
so did, some didn’t, but Prado has been seen as the immediate replacement with the future somewhat fluid depending on what they find easiest and cheapest to acquire. Salcedo has also been talked about at third, but it looks like he is at three years away at least.
P'cola Brave
January 25th, 2011
10:43 pm
T Hawkin
Reyes has all the talent in the world. Like you said when hes on theres none better. Theres no doubt he will be priced out of our budget.
keylargo
January 25th, 2011
10:43 pm
McFann – You should tell your teacher (MOM) that you need a History field trip. Suggest Fort Jefferson.
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:44 pm
Still distrustful of a W-L record as an indicator of skill or ability. Danga
oh yeah, for sure
keylargo
January 25th, 2011
10:46 pm
If I could choose one stat for a pitcher it would be WHIP.
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
10:46 pm
Has anyone Bought the season ticket passes yet…? If so are they doing the same format as last year or has it changed?
Mark (another one)
January 25th, 2011
10:48 pm
Back to TP, I am glad he is still with the Braves and wish him a successful 2011. Coaching players at the major league level has to be a challenge since they all were successful to get there. I am sure TP first had to learn each of them and then learn how to help them. Anyone who insisted on his way would have been fired long ago.
He is in a potentially difficult position, but he is a class guy who will hold up.
nolie
January 25th, 2011
10:48 pm
if limited to just one I think I would too KL. Thank goodness we ain’t.
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
10:49 pm
P-Cola-Brave
“Theres no doubt he will be priced out of our budget.”
(SMH like a Spoiled Little Kid)
No, No, No…! We all thought UGG would be out of our range…? Things happen…
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
10:52 pm
Speaking of WHIP
It might be time to listen to “Whip It”…The Only Devo Song I like because It was on Beavis and Butthead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45qNdJTagRw
Pameee
January 25th, 2011
10:52 pm
The hitting coach should be able to recognize pitches and pitch patterns. I noticed them around the league and the 2nd 3rd time around the batters start hitting. If this is something that Chipper did then shouldn’t TP have been the expert?
P'cola Brave
January 25th, 2011
10:52 pm
T-Hawkin
That is true. But we also sent some money to the Marlins in that trade. Reyes will be at least 12 mil
Braveheart
January 25th, 2011
10:56 pm
Why did that site cite Delgado’s won/lost record? It’s bad enough to do that with major leaguers, but even worse with minor leaguers. Then they said Freeman’s glove was just average. They also said Kimbrel’s fastball touches 96. The lowest I’ve seen him touch in the minors and majors was 96. I know I’m more of a homer than they are, but those 3 things jumped out at me as credibility problems.
Kyle
January 25th, 2011
10:58 pm
Thanks CR. im so excited im skipping class lol
keylargo
January 25th, 2011
10:58 pm
Nolie – You can tell a few things about a pitcher by their WHIP. Like if it is 2.00, he ain’t gonna be the closer. Or at least you’re actively looking for another one.
Bravefaninok
January 25th, 2011
10:59 pm
P’cola Brave
January 25th, 2011
10:52 pm
T-Hawkin
That is true. But we also sent some money to the Marlins in that trade. Reyes will be at least 12 mil
What Money????
Steve McP
January 25th, 2011
11:00 pm
Surprised to see that the article thinks Freeman will platoon at first, heard no indication of that from either Wren or Fredi.
Trey
January 25th, 2011
11:01 pm
McFann, you should also go to Washington D.C. to check out the Smithsonian.
P'cola Brave
January 25th, 2011
11:01 pm
Bravefaninok
Infante and Dunns contract. That offsets some of Uggla cost. Reyes would be a FA signing so there wouldn’t be any offset there.
nolie
January 25th, 2011
11:03 pm
Not saying we didn’t, but I don’t remember that we sent money along with Infante and Dunn
Bravefaninok
January 25th, 2011
11:05 pm
Just say no to Reyes…..Expensive DL risk
P'cola Brave
January 25th, 2011
11:06 pm
Nolie
I meant their contracts.
keylargo
January 25th, 2011
11:08 pm
Now Trey be honest. Late January – would you rather be at the Smithsonian or an island where it’s 80 degrees?
Trey
January 25th, 2011
11:10 pm
keylargo, last year I was in Cuba, so I think I’d rather be in Cuba right now.
Trey
January 25th, 2011
11:11 pm
Never got cold there, so I miss it when I feel this weather.
nolie
January 25th, 2011
11:11 pm
oh I see
cabravesfan
January 25th, 2011
11:12 pm
I think I’ll stick with Southern California
nolie
January 25th, 2011
11:13 pm
or Florida even.
Trey
January 25th, 2011
11:13 pm
I think I’d take a hot, sunny beach right by the Caribbean sea, over CA, CAB.
keylargo
January 25th, 2011
11:14 pm
Trey – It’s one of the things I truly am looking forward to in the future – being able to go to Cuba. I’ve flown over it several times going to the Cayman Islands, but the Keys and Caymans are parking lots compared to Cuba.
I’ve had a pilot’s license for several years and it’s about an hour to any part of Cuba from where I live. Before I die, I’m going to be able to fly down for dinner in Havanna and be back home before Midnight.
cabravesfan
January 25th, 2011
11:14 pm
Trey-
Only difference is the temperature of the water
Trey
January 25th, 2011
11:14 pm
Nolie, I would love to be in Florida. i am considering Florida for retirement.
cabravesfan
January 25th, 2011
11:15 pm
and Southern CA is a little closer (and cheaper
)
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
11:15 pm
BravesFanInOK
Good Point…Jose Might be worse that some players on our team who sit out with minor injuries…
Trey
January 25th, 2011
11:16 pm
Keylargo, yeah, I want to visit Havanna, too. I didn’t get anywhere other than the American controlled part.
Trey
January 25th, 2011
11:17 pm
cab, well, does it get over 100 degrees in January in California?
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
11:17 pm
@Trey
Go To Boca Raton Fl or West Palm Beach…Lovely Place
I just need cold weather a lil bit otherwise I’d go back down there…Ft Myers and Port Charlotte are Nice as well
cabravesfan
January 25th, 2011
11:17 pm
Trey-
Nope. It’s been in the mid-70s to low 80s all month
Trey
January 25th, 2011
11:19 pm
Keylargo, I didn’t know you had your pilot’s license though. I bet you just love that, being able to fly whenever you want. I bet it saves you money on plane tickets if you have your own personal plane.
Trey
January 25th, 2011
11:20 pm
Tomahawkin, I hear West Palm is nice. I love Amelia Island and P’Cola. St. Augustine is pretty cool, too.
CAB, well then it ain’t tha same.
Bravefaninok
January 25th, 2011
11:20 pm
from Bleacher report
The Mets have an infield of potential, and most of its potential and success is tied to shortstop Jose Reyes.
Reyes is one of the game’s most talented players, but is a cancer in the locker room due to lackadaisical play.
The Mets are loaded at the corners with a superstar David Wright and an emerging superstar in Ike Davis.
If Reyes plays to potential, which is likely because it’s his walk year, the Mets will be one of the surprise teams of 2011, and have one of the game’s best infields. If Reyes has another lackluster year, the Mets will be playing the same old song…
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/582735-mlb-power-rankings-ranking-the-30-teams-projected-infields#page/24
cabravesfan
January 25th, 2011
11:21 pm
Trey-
nolie
January 25th, 2011
11:22 pm
I can remember when Cuba was the playground of the Caribbean . Will take a huge amount of labor and capital to ever get that back
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
11:22 pm
@Trey
It Got up to the Low 90’s in S. Florida (Inland) in late Janurary of 2003…Wierd
D. Harris
January 25th, 2011
11:22 pm
I personally find Terry Pendleton’s attitude refreshing, especially in a business in which more and more players are in it for “me, me, me.” I’m glad we still have him as a coach and hope we do for many years to come.
nolie
January 25th, 2011
11:24 pm
got a lot of crime though
keylargo
January 25th, 2011
11:24 pm
Trey – ask CAB how many times she’s been swimming, water skiing, or scuba diving this year. In the Keys and Cuba, the Gulf Stream continually brings that 80 degree water up between the Islands and you can swim year round as long as the outside temp is over 70.
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
11:24 pm
The Best Thing about S. Florida This Time of year is that you can go outside at midnight and play baseball in 73 degree weather…We did that a lot when I would go up to Palm during my freshman year of college at FAU
cabravesfan
January 25th, 2011
11:26 pm
keylargo-
It’s very hard to water ski in the Pacific- too rough (I have been water skiing on a lake more then once, however) and there really isn’t much to see by way of scuba diving (and I’ve never been)- I said the water temp is the only difference! I freely admit that the Pacific is freezing!
Trey
January 25th, 2011
11:26 pm
Two places I’d love to visit would be Melbourne, or Sydney.
cabravesfan
January 25th, 2011
11:28 pm
I’ve been to the Caribbean several times- I love the warm water (I’m a water girl at heart- love being on it, in it and near it)
Trey
January 25th, 2011
11:28 pm
Cab, believe it or not, I actually find hurricanes and storms fascinating.
Keylargo, I will.
Tomahawkin, that is impressive.
keylargo
January 25th, 2011
11:28 pm
The Cubans have kept their Capitalism skills alive here in South Florida and will be back down there the minute after Castro is out of power (dead in other words). It won’t take a year before Cuba is the favorite destination for Americans going out of the country.
cabravesfan
January 25th, 2011
11:29 pm
Trey-
Don’t know about hurricanes, but I do love watching storms over the water- they can be stunningly beautiful
yogi2
January 25th, 2011
11:30 pm
Why not let Nate Mclouth coach first base.
Tomahawkin
January 25th, 2011
11:33 pm
But The Traffic on the Interstates in S. Florida Is just as bad as the “A”!