Braves sign all arb-eligibles; Prado, Jurrjens top $3 million (updated)

Braves pitcher Jair Jurrjens and second baseman-turned-left fielder Martin Prado saw their salaries soar from below $500,000 to above $3 million after agreeing to one-year deals Tuesday and avoiding arbitration.

Relief pitchers Peter Moylan ($2 million) and Eric O’Flaherty ($895,000) also agreed to terms as the Braves again avoided going to hearings with any of their four arbitration-eligible players who had been unsigned.

If teams failed to reach settlements with players by Tuesday, salary figures were swapped and hearings would be scheduled during the first three weeks in February. As expected, Prado and Jurrjens got the biggest pay bumps for the Braves as first-time arbitration-eligible players, one a starting position player and the other a starting pitcher.

Prado, 27, an All-Star second baseman in his first season as a lineup regular in 2010, got a raise from $440,000 to $3.1 million in 2011. He hit .307 with 40 doubles and 15 homers in 2010, and is moving to left field to accommodate slugging second baseman Dan Uggla, acquired in a November trade from the Marlins.

The Braves recently signed Uggla to a five-year, $62 million contract extension that bought out his final year of arbitration and first four years of free agency.

Jurrjens got a bump from $480,000 to $3.25 million in 2011, a salary that would have been higher if not for a string of injuries that slowed him for much of the 2010 season. He was just 7-6 with a 4.64 ERA in 20 starts, after winning 27 games in his first two full seasons and posting the league’s third-best ERA (2.60) in 2009.

Jurrjens, who turns 25 on Jan. 29, can earn an additional $50,000 in performance incentives.

O’Flaherty was disabled for much of the second half of the season with mononucleosis, but the left-hander still doubled his $440,000 salary after posting a 2.45 ERA in 56 appearances.

Moylan, in his second time through arbitration, nearly doubled his $1.15 million from 2010, after going 6-2 with a 2.97 ERA in 85 appearances. He was 6-2 with a 2.84 ERA in 87 appearances in 2009.

The 32-year-old Aussie sidearmer has been one of the Braves’ most valuable relievers since being signed off the Australian team at the World Baseball Classic in 2006. Moylan has a 2.58 ERA in 274 appearances, including 80 or more appearances in each of his three healthy seasons (he missed most of 2008 for ligament-transplant elbow surgery).

– by David O’Brien, Braves blog

152 comments Add your comment

jaybob

January 18th, 2011
2:47 pm

JoshTown

January 18th, 2011
2:48 pm

eskippy

January 18th, 2011
2:49 pm

jaybob

January 18th, 2011
2:49 pm

OMG! Ive always wanted to be first…and now I am!! I’m gonna have a drink.

As far as signing Martin and JJ…good deal. I’m SOOO looking forward to this season. GO BRAVES!

goldwreck

January 18th, 2011
2:56 pm

Jaybob,
Bear Bryant told his players to act like they’ve been there before.
Seriously,I’m excited as you are over this news.The pieces are coming together.Now if Chipper can only bounce back.

gadawgs

January 18th, 2011
3:01 pm

Great news DOB. Thanks.

b

January 18th, 2011
3:02 pm

IMO, Prado deserved more money than Jair.

Bobby's Cox

January 18th, 2011
3:10 pm

I’m happy for Prado. He deserves the cash. Probably should’ve gotten more. If he has another good offensive year, we need to sign him long term

Melissa

January 18th, 2011
3:11 pm

Prado may deserve more than Jurrjens, but JJ’s agent is Scott Boras. I don’t think that’s the only reason for the salary difference between the two, but I bet it’s certainly a contributing factor.

jwilli120

January 18th, 2011
3:12 pm

GO BRAVES!!!! something to cheer about in the ATL and in GEORGIA
get my drift, let’s do a little something, something.

T.O

January 18th, 2011
3:18 pm

Question….who’s playing 3rd base if Chipper can’t go? Also who’s playing center after Nate starts .160 in May? 2 holes we should be addressing now instead of waiting until June.

Lefty

January 18th, 2011
3:19 pm

7th?
First off, what is the status of Chipper? 2nd, I like the extension to JJ, but not sure about Prado. He had 1 outstanding season, and gets 3 mil? Maybe an extension for half that amount loaded with incentives. If he has another great season this year, then pay him that much.

Brooks Conrad

January 18th, 2011
3:19 pm

BOO!!

Scared you? I’m still here!

coach13

January 18th, 2011
3:21 pm

Chipper ain’t bouncin back boys. Injury prone 39 yr olds don’t “bounce back” after major knee surgery. We need Chipper to hit .300/25-30/85-100 and there is no way he will do that. .270/15/60 does not help us one Iota.

Braves Need

January 18th, 2011
3:24 pm

still need a center fielder!

Alex in DC

January 18th, 2011
3:25 pm

Bring on the season!

ryan c

January 18th, 2011
3:27 pm

3:21
So, basing arguments on batting average, home runs, and rbis? What is this, 1980?

If Chipper can give the team 120-130 games of 15-20 home runs and an .850-900 ops, he’ll be well worth his contract.

Alex in DC

January 18th, 2011
3:27 pm

They’ve been doing a lot to find a CF. They’re paying Nate too much to not give him a chance to return to his old self– otherwise we have a few options including Jordan Shafer now that he’s healthy again. Prado would play 3rd if Chipper is out.

JoeBravesFan

January 18th, 2011
3:29 pm

I still think Prado should stay at 2nd and Uggla go to left field. Prado has proven to be better defensively at 2B. Glad they’re both on our team, though!

Heisenberg

January 18th, 2011
3:29 pm

I wish I could have arbitration at my job and “loose” only having to settle for tripling my salary instead of quadrupling.

JoeBravesFan

January 18th, 2011
3:37 pm

Hey DOB, what do you think the odds are that Chipper decides to retire if his knee doesn’t hold up like he thinks it will? Also, if he DOES retire, would that free up his salary immediately so the Braves can upgrade in the outfield and/or shortstop?

ryan c

January 18th, 2011
3:48 pm

@3:29
You’re right. Statistically, Uggla has been worse than Prado at 2nd, but there are a few arguments to be made for moving Prado to LF instead of Uggla.
1. Prado plays OF every year in Winter League. And plays it quite well, actually. Prado could adjust to life in the OF much easier than Uggla.
2. For his career, Uggla played 81 games/year at the Marlin’s stadium. The infield there is notoriously “fast” and “hard” making life difficult for Marlins’ infielders.
3. Position swap: Prado has been a slightly-below average defensive 2B and an above-average defensive 3B. Moving Prado to LF for the next year or 2 means only Prado, himself, will have to change positions (again) when Chipper retires. If Uggla moved to left, when Chipper retires, Uggla would move back to 2B and Prado would move to 3rd and both would have to make adjustments to regain comfort at their new (old) positions. Moving Prado is the path of least resistance.
4. Prado’s younger. Simple. More full-sprints and chance of muscle pulling in LF.

David O'Brien

January 18th, 2011
3:55 pm

JoeBravesFan: I haven’t seen or heard anything to make me believe Chipper will retire. Rehab’s gone well, so I’d make those long odds that you asked about.

ray

January 18th, 2011
3:56 pm

Moylan’s agent used to be the 2 guys that handled Furcal and got into the argument with Wren. I wonder if there still is bad blood. This could be a problem.
It’s amazing how Jurgens can be injured, have a disappointing season and still get such a large raise.
There goes the money for another OF. Braves have to unload KK first.

JoeBravesFan

January 18th, 2011
3:58 pm

Good points, ryan c. I do love Prado’s versatility and willingness to do whatever necessary to help the team win. Who knows, if Chipper decides to call it quits this year, Prado will move to 3B sooner than we think. My question THEN would be: Who takes over in LF for Prado?

JoeBravesFan

January 18th, 2011
3:59 pm

Good to hear, DOB! Thanks!

JoeBravesFan

January 18th, 2011
3:59 pm

Good to hear, DOB! Thanks!

JoeBravesFan

January 18th, 2011
4:00 pm

Dang computer! :)

Lefty

January 18th, 2011
4:01 pm

Has Brad Komminsk retired?

PMC

January 18th, 2011
4:01 pm

Always nice to see deserving people get paid accordingly.

These guys have played their behinds off for the Braves.

David O'Brien

January 18th, 2011
4:08 pm

Moylan’s agent used to be the 2 guys that handled Furcal and got into the argument with Wren. I wonder if there still is bad blood. This could be a problem. — ray

Why could it be a problem? Until he’s a free agent, it doesn’t matter. If the two sides don’t settle, they swap arb salary figures. The Braves offer what they think he’s worth, his rep asks for what he believes he’s worth, and an arbitration panel picks one of the two salaries, nothing in-between. Simple as that.

If the Braves try to low-ball or Moylan’s agent asks for something clearly too much, it serves neither party’s interest to do that. Because the arb panel is going to pick the salary that’s closer to what players of his ilk and arb status make.

SoWeGa Fanatic

January 18th, 2011
4:12 pm

JJ is underrated by Braves fans. He could win 15+ this year.

David O'Brien

January 18th, 2011
4:16 pm

JJ is underrated by Braves fans. He could win 15+ this year. — SoWeGa Fanatic

Agreed on him being dismissed, or at least underrated, by far too many.

Lefty

January 18th, 2011
4:23 pm

I believe JJ may be one of the best in the N.L……when he is healthy. Prado on the other hand, not sure of. I know he had some nagging injuries at the end of the season. I am betting that last year was the most games he has ever played in 1 season. I would have liked to see the Braves hold off on giving him that much money until he had proved his worth over a period of 2-3 strong seasons at the major league level.

Alex in DC

January 18th, 2011
4:29 pm

If JJ is fully healthy this year, Lowe remembers how he pitched at the end of last year, Hanson and Huddy continue to dominate while Medlen recovers– Atlanta will have a top staff next year in all of baseball. The question for me is can we finally get the bats going. Uggla will help… but will it be enough.

DOB – Do you believe in the “Protection Myth”… will Chipper return to the days of hitting .360+ with Uggla/McCann behind him as he did with Teixiera?

Wes

January 18th, 2011
4:30 pm

Do the Braves have any plans of acquiring a fast runner? Someone who can steal more than 5 bases a year would help greatly.

Kat

January 18th, 2011
4:31 pm

Good to hear some great news on Jurrjens and Prado.

K.K.

January 18th, 2011
4:51 pm

How come I no get raise?

Skeezix

January 18th, 2011
4:54 pm

Prado’s a spark plug and J.J’s a stud. I’m so glad these deals were put to bed and these two can go into the season with one focus–help us win the NL east and then get to the WS.

raleighbravefan

January 18th, 2011
4:56 pm

I think I can already hear Don railing against paying JJ over $3 M, when we all know he has a bad shoulder, and will never again be any good. (In case there is any doubt, I don’t agree with that assesment, and believe JJ will be healthy, and an ace or #2 level guy).

Mitchell

January 18th, 2011
4:57 pm

Wes

January 18th, 2011
4:30 pm

Do the Braves have any plans of acquiring a fast runner? Someone who can steal more than 5 bases a year would help greatly.

I keep thinking about Juan Pierre. Well, not in that way.

That guy needs to be in a Braves uniform sometime before the 2011 season is done.

Maybe we could trade Chipper to the White Sox for him.

That could work.

Conyers Braves Fan

January 18th, 2011
5:00 pm

The Braves still need power from the outfield positions. The management knows this and hopefully they will get someone before its too late. Hopefully ,Heyward will improve but LF/CF? Right now these are very big question marks given the Prado may wind up at 3b and Nate is a huge risk.

raleighbravefan

January 18th, 2011
5:02 pm

Mitchell – I hope you are being facetious, but I’m afraid you are actually serious about Pierre (and Chipper).

Frank Wren

January 18th, 2011
5:04 pm

I wish Chipper would retire so I can use that money on a slugger, one that can play every day. We got enough cheerleaders on the bench !

Ryan Braun would look good in a Braves uniform !

I can dream, can’t I ?

My GOD, what am I gonna do about centerfield ?

Its a good thing I work in Atlanta where the local media is good at throwing me softballs to answer. I wouldn’t last in Boston, NY or Philly !

raleighbravefan

January 18th, 2011
5:05 pm

Conyers – That’s what ST is for.

Wes

January 18th, 2011
5:12 pm

Mitchell – Scott Podsednik would be a PERFECT fit for the Braves. He has what we desperately need – SPEED. In addition, he’s a decent hitter and also plays left field. So when Chipper’s legs give out half way through the season, and they gotta move Prado back to third, they can stick Podsednick in left.

Scroggy 7

January 18th, 2011
5:13 pm

Is anybody all that excited about Freddi Freeman at First ??? He didn’t show much last fall, albiet not to much of an opportunity. We all hope he’ll be fine, but what if he’s not? Who is our right handed hitting option at First Base w/o Troy Glaus? I’m sure we would have heard if there was any thoughts in having Chipper play some first against left handed pitchers w/Prado at Third. It’s a much easier position to play than third. Especially with a bum knee on old legs. Has that ever been discussed much or at all?

TJ

January 18th, 2011
5:16 pm

According to Twitter (from DOB himself) the Braves have also signed Moylan and O’Flaherty, so no worries about arbitration with any of the players this year. Good to hear.

Tomahawk

January 18th, 2011
5:17 pm

“O’Flaherty was disabled for much of the 2010 season with a case of mononucleosis and lingering effects, but the left-hander was expected to at least double his $440,000 salary.”

I will always love baseball, but this is a great example of one of the many things that are wrong with it. O’Flaherty is a great bullpen arm, but they guy barely did anything last year and he doubles his salary??

urban redneck

January 18th, 2011
5:17 pm

JJ is not underrated………I would just like to trade him for a CF!

TJ

January 18th, 2011
5:17 pm

Scroggy: Chipper has made it very plain that he has no interest in playing first base.

WV Braves Fan

January 18th, 2011
5:17 pm

Thanks for the good news, David. Great decisions by the Braves. It seems like Prado does really well anywhere they put him in the field or in the lineup, and Jurrjens is an ace when he is healthy. Do pitchers and catchers report in less than a month? Looking forward to another good season for the Braves.

bvillebaron

January 18th, 2011
5:22 pm

Scroggy 7:

I would assume that if Freeman isn’t ready, that Hinske would get most of the playing time at 1B. I for one am very excited about Freeman. He hit .319, with 18 homers and 87 RBI at AAA last year when he didn’t turn 21 until September. A word of caution regarding Freeman however. If you follow his history in the minor leagues, he normally starts out slow when promoted to a higher level and then turns it on after he adjusts (which is exactly what he did last year at Gwinnett). Consequently, I hope the Braves fans don’t get down on him if he gets off to a slow start next April which, based on his history, is very likely.

JEB

January 18th, 2011
5:24 pm

Is the World Baseball Classic this year??

Alex in DC

January 18th, 2011
5:26 pm

Stop hating on Chipper. He is a leader on the team and has done more for this franchise over the last decade and a half than anyone else currently in uniform. How soon we forget– the guy hit .360 2 years ago!?!!

Frank Wren

January 18th, 2011
5:33 pm

If Chipper would retire, and I could unload Derek Lowe’s bloated contract on the Yankees, then I could go after Albert Pujols !

Kelly's Johnson

January 18th, 2011
5:35 pm

Trade JJ to the Red Sox for Jacoby Ellsbury.

JJ’s tired of pitching for a team that won’t score him any runs !

Dave in Green Bay

January 18th, 2011
5:41 pm

ALEX IN DC:

I can’t agree with you more. Chipper is a 1st ballot HOF candidate.He’s been a great team player.
We need him to stay healthy this year to make a run. His OB% is fine.

Chipper is Old

January 18th, 2011
5:42 pm

Chipper hit .364 in 2008, then DROPPED 100 points in 2009 to .264; rebounding in 2010 with a stellar .265 !

Not only is his hitting in reverse, but the gold glove has several cracks in it.

Time to hang it up before he embarasses himself any further !

DoninAcworth

January 18th, 2011
5:49 pm

I just can hardly believe football is over and now it’s the hard little round ball that deserves my attention. So….. here goes….. GO BRAVES!! But what will everyone say when our little ol’ center fielder comes of age and hits and wins comeback player of the year and elephants fly and they bring back Furman Bisher and alls well that ends well!

MightyQuinn

January 18th, 2011
5:54 pm

@bvillebaron/5:22, Good post, good point. Noticed that too last year w/FF.

Hanshin Tigers

January 18th, 2011
6:01 pm

A big raise after a good year is ok, as long as we can cut the salary just as much after a poor season. Of course, that never happens…

ryan c

January 18th, 2011
6:05 pm

According to fangraphs, Chipper has been worth 24 million dollars the past 2 years. He hasn’t been worth his contracts, but he’s still very valuable.

I’m trying not to be too critical to some on the board, but I’m about to shout so hold your fingers…STOP LOOKING AT BATTING AVERAGE TO PROVE/DISPROVE WORTH. It is a very outdated statistic. A good place to start would be to study up on OPS (on-base percentage plus slugging).

Quick tutorial: A good power hitting player (such as Uggla) will OPS .800-.850. Uggla’s OBP (on-base percentage) will be around .350, while his slugging will be anywhere between .475-.525.

Chipper, even in his down years, has been a better offensive player than Uggla (with the exception being last year). Because Chipper’s OPS is “on-base” heavy, Chipper can slack a bit in slugging and still maintain a high OPS.

Chipper, if he would have qualified, had the 6th highest OPS last year (5th was Prado) of third baseman, so he’s still in the top tier. If healthy, Chipper provides everything that this offense needs, average be damned.

@Frank Wren

January 18th, 2011
6:09 pm

Lowe’s salary is turning out to not look as bloated as it once did…

braveshoo

January 18th, 2011
6:13 pm

Love these blogs. Go Bravos.

Innocent Bystander

January 18th, 2011
6:15 pm

Glad we could avoid arb on all counts. Never fun for either side to go through it right before the start of the season, especially since one side wins and the other loses.

downtowner

January 18th, 2011
6:16 pm

Chipper will not “bounce back.” Brian Jordan was right: when you are pushing 40, your work and health habits need to be optimal. Chewing tobacco 24/7 and hunting during every off-season (and missing some rehab this winter in the process) would catch up with anyone. Look at Nolan Ryan’s notorious off-season regimen.

yogi2

January 18th, 2011
6:36 pm

Basball is a world sport,played in almost every civilized country. Somewhere on this planet has to be a center fielder that is better than these BOZOs that the Braves are planning on using. McLouse and Schafers
are pitiful excuse for CF

WTF??

January 18th, 2011
6:44 pm

We wasted all this money on these losers? Fire Frank Wren!!!!

Peter

January 18th, 2011
6:44 pm

This is going to be an interesting year…… A couple of great years from guys and we will be in the thick of it…..A couple of guys having off years, and we will be in the basement.

No speed to start with, the old men’s club for a team, and center filled with weak arm Nate or Schaffer……..good luck with that, and who is the closer and set up guys that are proven talent ?

That is a mentally tough position.

Maybe we will actually play aggressive baseball, and not wait for the long ball…..so a change in philosophy ?

Do we make less errors…. hard to say with two brick hand middle infielders, and a slowing 3rd baseman.

Hmmmmm….. time will tell, but I don’t see a great year coming unless pitching is better than last year, and they were very good.

nique

January 18th, 2011
6:46 pm

Why only 1 year deals? Doesn’t that set them up for another round of big pay raises next year if they perform as expected?

LTBF

January 18th, 2011
6:47 pm

Why only one year contract for Martin?

BrandonC

January 18th, 2011
7:02 pm

Prado deserves every bit of $3 million based on last year and the final 3 months of 2009. I don’t like him playing LF solely because he won’t get the recognition on the All Star balloting that he would get at 2B. Regardless of where he plays he’s a major part of our lineup.

We all knew JJ would get a big raise, but hopefully he can stay healthy and put up the numbers we all KNOW he can put up or he will be trade bait by the end of the year. Julio Teheran is waiting in the wings and I would expect we will see him get a call up in September.

I’m also ready to see what Schafer can do in Spring Training, because I still don’t think we have seen the best of him yet. That wrist injury really set him back, but from everything I’ve read recently he is finally 100% healthy and ready to show what he’s got. The kid has a ton of talent!

JJ

January 18th, 2011
7:05 pm

JJ

January 18th, 2011
7:05 pm

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bravos10

January 18th, 2011
7:23 pm

Those are bargain prices for the caliber talent in all of the players mentioned: Mylan, Prado, JJ, O’Flaherty.

Philly is going to be a force but anything can happen. Huddy, JJ, Lowe, Hanson are a solid front four as well.

GO BRAVES!

tls

January 18th, 2011
7:34 pm

The arb-eligible guys are getting raises based on not only last year, but their entire body of work. When you look at it that way, they all are huge bargains, especially JJ who would have gotten at least twice that much had he had 2009 numbers last year.

SuperRay

January 18th, 2011
7:48 pm

I still think they ought to let Weems run the ball to the outside, since Jealous can’t play.

SuperRay

January 18th, 2011
7:50 pm

Lowe pitched pretty good last year. If the Braves had traded him like they wanted, the Braves would have never made the post season.

richbrave

January 18th, 2011
7:52 pm

BrandonC:

If TEHERAN settles in early in AA, expect a May call-up to AAA. He has had some problems handling the promos from A to A+ to AA, so the intro at TURNER might be 2012 rather than the end of 2011, a best case scenerio, but barring the unforseen, he’ll be in ATLANTA fairly soon.

COT’s says were on the hook money-wise to the tune of $ 77,628,334 before today’s four raises, but their 2010 pay is not in the total COT’s figure, so the actual payroll yesterday should have stood at $80,138,334. Add $6,735,000 to that sub-total and you have a tidy $86,873,334 which I’m guessing is near last year’s payroll on the high side. Don’t see why a couple of million can’t be added if we need a CF or back-up SS, and we’ll have plenty of lee-way if KAWAKAMI can now be moved, and save a couple mill. more. Three or four million for emergencies would be nice.

richbrave

January 18th, 2011
7:55 pm

You know that LINEBRINK deal might just be a “saving” grace especially if he pans out.

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Gene

January 18th, 2011
8:08 pm

Prado–Yes; McOut–No!

Scroggy 7

January 18th, 2011
8:20 pm

bvillebaron:
Don’t get me wrong, I hope Freddi does a fine job, plays 156 games, hits . 285 w/15 HR & 75 RBI. I’ll be pulling for him. I just think getting off to a slow start up here is much different than starting slow in the minors. And you and I both know if he is hitting .200 in mid-May the pressure is going to increase by the day. With Hinske being a lefty,too I just think we need a right handed bat as a backup over there to spell him regardless if he struggles or not. I guess Prado is an option

TJ:
Speaking as an old man, I would think it would be something to consider. I know he had no interest in moving back to the OF, but I’ve never heard 1B being mentioned as a possibility. Worked for Pete Rose for his last 4-5 years.

Yo

January 18th, 2011
8:32 pm

bwell

January 18th, 2011
8:41 pm

Now that they have gotten paid, I pray that they step their game up and produce.

Colonial Dawg

January 18th, 2011
8:41 pm

I would have no problem at all with paying Prado. He hasn’t just had 1 good season, but since he was inserted into the lineup for Kelly Johnson back in (I think) June of 2009 he has been solid. The play that put him out for the remainder of the season last year was a super catch at third base. And how can you not like a guy who when asked 2 years ago what his favorite position was said “lineup”!

kaminari

January 18th, 2011
9:13 pm

So happy to hear of Braves talk. Thanks DOB. And it’s great news to see our guys inked. I’m really happy about Prado moving to left. Hopefully getting him moving around in the field will help him prevent little nagging injuries. I’m really curious about this year’s team.

DawgDad

January 18th, 2011
9:23 pm

If I were Wren I’d be looking for two players, a veteran infielder who can play second, short, and third, and play a lot if needed, and a right-hand hitting fourth outfielder who can play center field and platoon with McLouth.

I expect Prado will be in the hunt for a batting title. Sure would be nice to see JJ fully recovered.

Poorbrave

January 18th, 2011
9:24 pm

Great job…now everyone is ready for Spring Training.
Chipper will be ready…bet on it.

Sfblump

January 18th, 2011
9:47 pm

The Braves have a tough schedule to start with. On Mar. 31 they open in Washington, off April 1st. finish the series in Washington on 2nd and 3rd. then fly to Milwaukee to play on April 4th, a 4 game series
with the Bucks, another off day to come home and open a 3 game series
with the Phillies.

Quicherbichin

January 18th, 2011
9:52 pm

Oh what a joy to see Mitchell back… I wondered what he’d have to gripe about with Bobby gone.. Mitchell would find something to gripe about if we went 162-0 and our oitchers pitched the entire year without giving up a single run and our batters led the league in hom runs. I can hear him.. Well.. That was just the regular season.. If we can’t steal bases in the playoffs.. We’re done.
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Ron Roberts

January 18th, 2011
10:11 pm

So any math-niks ready to number crunch and see where the Braves’ payroll is now?

Edlver

January 18th, 2011
10:22 pm

2-1 after the 1st series, 3-1 in the 2nd. come home 5-2 and begin the world championship run. get on board now

N8

January 18th, 2011
11:00 pm

“Agreed on him being dismissed, or at least underrated, by far too many.” DOB, on Jair’s percieved “value”.

I have to disagree. I think the people that don’t think he has any value is a select few, whether on the blog or listening Atlanta sports radio online’s callers and emailers.

Don’t confuse the amount of people that think since we got by without him last year and feel we could trade him for some nice players with not appreciating his abilities. And maybe you’re not, so I’m not trying to argue with you – but when I’ve “argued” with fellow bloggers on this, their first attack on me is that I don’t appreciate him.

To me it’s the opposite. I think guys like myself have so much faith in his ability, and assume that smart baseball people would look past the injuries and take a long hard look at gambling on a trade for him. If anything, we’re OVER valuing what he’s worth after coming off the injury season that he had last year.

In my opinion, he’s the Ace in the hole that could make our rotation every bit as potent as the Phillies rotation. Especially in a short playoff series.

For the most part, since we traded peanuts for Uggla and since have re-signed him to an extention, my “trade JJJ” stance has softened. I still think he eventually gets traded (because of Boras – and the glut of young pitching on it’s way up the Braves farm system), but probably not anytime soon. And maybe not even next off-season. But I think he’ll get traded before he hits free agency. Just my opinion.

But there were some of us who called him the true Ace of this staff in 2009 over Vazquez and got ripped for it. His injury shouldn’t change that. Guys get hurt, they struggle and most rebound nicely. Barring the injury being a continuous one (ask Prior and Wood).

But I don’t think I’ve really ever seen anybody other than Phillies and Mets trolls rag on JJJ. I have been wrong before though. :-)

Chris from the Rock

January 18th, 2011
11:07 pm

Hmmm. I wonder if Eckstein would take a reduced role and sign with ATL as a UTIL. He’s not great with the stick, but he’s solid with the glove and a great clubhouse guy. Thoughts?

daniel buck

January 19th, 2011
12:24 am

DOB… Is there any news thru the grapevine about one more outfielder… CF preferably ????

Mitchell

January 19th, 2011
2:11 am

Alex in DC

January 18th, 2011
5:26 pm

Stop hating on Chipper. He is a leader on the team and has done more for this franchise over the last decade and a half than anyone else currently in uniform. How soon we forget– the guy hit .360 2 years ago!?!!

No one else currently in uniform has been with the franchise for the last decade and a half and he hit .364, for the record.

And actually it was three years ago.

Chipper Jones

January 19th, 2011
7:42 am

The offseason is for hunting on my Texas ranch.

Spring training is for fishing and golf in Florida.

By May 1st I should be in mid-season form – on the disabled list !

Keep those big checks coming, Frank Wren !

Maybe I’ll get up to .270 this season

Andy

January 19th, 2011
8:12 am

Dave…do you have a current salary number for the Braves after the raises that just went out?

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