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Glord1
December 23rd, 2010
2:42 pm
I don’t know what kind of numbers Freeman will put up next year but there are a few reasons to be optimistic about his future. The first is his age. Very few players put up his numbers at AAA at 20 years old. The ones that have most times have become stars eventually. Another reason to be excited is his defense. Way above average at 1B. Again not usual for a 20 year old. Lastly his tools. The scouts love the swing and potential. He looks like a very good player to me. Will it happen next year? We will see.
JoeFan
December 23rd, 2010
2:43 pm
The 2011 Braves season will hinge on whether they have a hole at 3B that creates a hole in LF and whether they can fill the hole in CF. Almost forgot the potential hole at 1B. Looks like a team with multiple question marks and not one that is ready to challenge Philadelphia.
Snotboogie
December 23rd, 2010
2:43 pm
There is an insider only article up on ESPN by KC Joyner that asserts that Matt Ryan is the best QB in the NFC South. Right in time for Monday Night Football. Wonder if this or Roddy White will be the main feature on the Siants bulletin board. Hmm.
I see chad is again trying his best to rile up folks about McCann. I dont understand why folks encourage that fellow. He goes away for a few days and the back to the same topic. Like he has the tourettes or something.
Efrim
December 23rd, 2010
2:44 pm
If all GM’s follow a similar evaluation scheme, then trading our pitching prospects for position players may not be that easy (or a trade without the feeling we gave up too much).
sri, I don’t follow that system of ranking prospects, but it makes some sense. I go back and forth on whether or not it’s better to have a system chocked full of position players than pitchers, given the attrition rate as you said. Balance, of course, is pretty important. I think the Braves system will most likely be in the Top 10 this year, but it’s certainly a concern that they don’t have a lot of position player talent.
abwright
December 23rd, 2010
2:44 pm
I love how Frank Wren is quoted as saying that the organization sets its payroll so as to be competitive and profitable … and some folks rip him for not throwing around “just one more million” to make the team better.
It sounds like Liberty lets Wren and Co run the Braves since the Braves are profitable. No interference (like was recently quoted from one of the Phillies owners) in player hiring or trading.
Despite the poor performance from 2008, Braves have built a pretty competitive team year in and year out for most of 2 decades, including a ridiculous run of 14 straight division titles.
And, they appear to be poised to make another long run based on the young talent starting to come up to the bigs.
If the Braves want more payroll, they need to develop more revenue … not spend into the red. Since they’re competitive with their existing payroll, why throw, e.g., $126 Million at Werth? Would that really make so much difference that it would be worth the cash? If the Braves ran at a $10 Million loss for those seven seasons, would a WS really make up for that loss?
jeffrey d
December 23rd, 2010
2:45 pm
How ’bout we get through this season before we start worrying about 2012?
Please, I’m already worried about 2017
P-Town Brave ©
December 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm
And thats what Jim Rome would characterize as one element of “Bad Sports Fan”…
Look ahead guy…
You know him, the guy who is always worried about a game that not only isn’t this week, or even next week…
Hell, this game isn’t even THIS YEAR!
Yeah, we all hate that guy…
richbrave
December 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm
klaus
December 23rd, 2010
2:36 pm
The Brave’s farm system is stacked with arms. Now that FF is up its a giant air pocket re: offense.
That cannot continue if they expect to be competitive with a sub 90mm payroll especially in the NL East.
They will need a LF, a CF and a SS by Dec 2011. They have little to chose from in the minors in terms of credible/proven offense powerhouses.
Schafer is a wild card who has not played ball in 2 yrs. Hardly something you can hang your hat on.
They a few smallish/slap hitting SS prospects in the minors but that is about it.
klaus:
How many clubs today stock-pile ML-ready players on the farm, and keep them there because they can’t beat out the players on the 40-man??
P-Town Brave ©
December 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm
BTW, anyone on here listen to Muse…
Great stuff!
DAP
December 23rd, 2010
2:48 pm
bring me the head of A more important question is whether the Phillies have now become so good as to deny the possibility of the NL wildcard coming from the East.
or have the braves improved enough to overtake the phillies?
dont forget, the phillies lost their top offensive performer and are replacing him with a rookie, as well as adding cliff lee.
the braves kept their pitching staff mostly intact while acquiring one of the better power hitters in the game.
keep in mind that based on the braves’ and phil’s run differential last season, the braves were only 2 games worse than the phillies.
an improved run differential and/or a little luck for the braves, and a mostly static run differential for the phillies might mean we have caught up with them.
abwright
December 23rd, 2010
2:51 pm
Run differential? But … I thought the Phillies were going to win 118 games?
DAP
December 23rd, 2010
2:52 pm
p-town BTW, anyone on here listen to Muse…
not lately, but i like them.
O.J.
December 23rd, 2010
2:52 pm
What is a sub 90mm payroll?
Snotboogie
December 23rd, 2010
2:53 pm
klaus
Next offseason, there is going to be a shortage of top quality on the free agent market. Carpenter and Wainwright have options that will mostly be picked up. Then you have Mark Buerhle and Sabathia with the opt-out clause. That’s it. We are likely to use our pitching surplus to get a few position player prospects and even starters. That should be enough to beef up our farm, a little at least.
jeffrey d
December 23rd, 2010
2:56 pm
A payroll under $90 million
richbrave
December 23rd, 2010
2:57 pm
JoeFan
December 23rd, 2010
2:43 pm
The 2011 Braves season will hinge on whether they have a hole at 3B that creates a hole in LF and whether they can fill the hole in CF. Almost forgot the potential hole at 1B. Looks like a team with multiple question marks and not one that is ready to challenge Philadelphia.
Well JOE we see the same things, but I see some holes over in PHILLY……bull-pen…….oh wait I forgot, four PHILLIES starters will pitch winning complete games almost every time out. BRAD LIDGE will suddenly become the BILLY WAGNER PHILLY hasn’t had for years now. Bench…….??? Top hitters……..??? WERTH replacement??? Injuries like those of last year, and come-backs from them by starting position players ROLLINS, UTLEY, HOWARD???
JOE, root for the PHILLIES if that’s your preference. No need to point out the BRAVES weaknesses. We all too aware of them. Anything of value to add????
richbrave
December 23rd, 2010
2:58 pm
O.J.
December 23rd, 2010
2:52 pm
What is a sub 90mm payroll?
A machine-gun????
David O'Brien
December 23rd, 2010
3:00 pm
jeffrey d, I think O.J. was alluding to the second “m” in “sub 90mm payroll.” And I’m kinda curious myself, what is the second “m” for? There aren’t two m’s in million. That reads like it’s payroll below 90 millimeters.
DAP
December 23rd, 2010
3:01 pm
abwright, like i said, im no expert on run differential, but it looks like to me that every +10 in run differential is worth an extra win over 81. braves had a +109 run differential, so they should have had roughly 11 wins + 81 wins = 92 wins. (baseball reference has their pythagorean record at 93 wins, so its not exact, but i have to do it that way, cause i dont know the real way)
based on run differential, braves should have won 93 in 2010, and the phils should have won 95. actual wins were 91, and 97. so the phils beat theirs by 2 and we missed ours by 2. if the opposite had happened, braves could have won the division in 2010.
anyways, i think the braves and the phillies are extremely close based on run differential for 2011. the braves do have a chance to win the east.
O.J.
December 23rd, 2010
3:02 pm
LOL, DOB got what I was trying to say, I thought it was pretty funny.
O.J.
December 23rd, 2010
3:03 pm
A 90 millimeter payroll.
richbrave
December 23rd, 2010
3:03 pm
99
DMBJAMS
December 23rd, 2010
3:04 pm
DOB, you forgot DMB’s live in NYC. Honest mistake I’m sure. (smile)
The rest of your list looks nice. I’ll be checking out some of those albums I missed. (you should do the same…)
chadb1733
December 23rd, 2010
3:16 pm
David O’Brien
I want to ask you a question, since you are with the team on a regular basis, about McCann. Is he a team leader. Does he get in the face of a team mate that makes an error or does not run out a pop up. I have been watching the last couple of years and do not see much emotion. It seems that there leadership comes from bench players or rookie instead of veterans. They said it is Chipper’s team but down the strech chipper was absent from the dugout. Where is McCann to get these young pitchers deeper into games. I dont see leadership that you except from a top player on your team.
Steve from OH
December 23rd, 2010
3:18 pm
Among the top names is Mr. Buckeye himself Terrelle Pryor
Mr. Buckeye? Who called him that? I daresay there will be few Buckeye fans sad to see him go, even before this incident. I can barely stand to see him win.
UKUGA
December 23rd, 2010
3:20 pm
DOB & Others . . .
In banking/finance, one “m” is for thousand, and two “m”s is for million.
$90M = $90 thousand
$90MM = $90 million
Journalists don’t use this, but bankers, etc, do. It occasionally creeps into other writing because some folks get used to it in their jobs and it comes out naturally at other times.
(The Roman numeral for 1,000 is “M”. The Roman numeral for one million is an M with a bar over it).
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
3:21 pm
chad-
leaders don’t necessarily have to be the screaming, get in your face type of guy. Mac doesn’t strike me as that type of guy, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a leader of this team
O.J.
December 23rd, 2010
3:22 pm
So the question begs to differ, did Klaus know this or was it a mistake that was funny?
Soph
December 23rd, 2010
3:22 pm
So, who does the yelling on the Phillies?
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
3:25 pm
Hi Soph!
simple
December 23rd, 2010
3:26 pm
I think it’s pretty clear if you’ve watched the Braves for the last 20 years that they aren’t get in your face and yell at people kinda guys. That’s not the most professional way to go about things. Maybe in slow pitch softball, but not pro ball.
chadb1733
December 23rd, 2010
3:28 pm
victiorio, rollins, utley but most of all manuel he is a real in your face manager. he has benched rollins,werth,utley ect to get there attention. I hope the new manager is better than Cox. He would never bench players.
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
3:30 pm
except that he has benched players…
and there are other ways to go about getting your players attention then yelling and screaming…
simple
December 23rd, 2010
3:30 pm
I think it’s safe to say that Fredi G is not afraid to bench players.
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
3:31 pm
besides, maybe the phillies just need more discipline then the Braves do
chadb1733
December 23rd, 2010
3:31 pm
Simple
I am not saying on field. but you never hear of the braves player holding special closed door meeting to tell each other to get off their butts and playball. During there championship runs Smotlz never had a problem calling out players even chipper jones.
Rhino
December 23rd, 2010
3:32 pm
Contra and Sigh No More should have been much higher but still a good list. Nicely done.
simple
December 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
I can’t pretend to know what they do off field or behind closed doors.
BravesAC
December 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
DOB and all…
The Braves payroll just feels like 90 millimeters when it’s trade deadline time. wasn’t there a cigarette ad about a 100 millimeter longer? That would work for the Braves payroll too – might pick abother OF bat.
Merry Christmas to DOB and all on the blog that make this site so much fun while being infomative.
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
3:34 pm
just because we don’t hear about it doesn’t mean they don’t talk…the Braves just don’t share every detail with the media…
chadb1733
December 23rd, 2010
3:38 pm
simple
Exactly my point, that is why i ask David O Brien. He is around them and knows what type of player McCann is. If he was a true leader in the club house, I would change my view of him. He maybe a player that I would have different views about. His numbers alone and value by stats alone to not justify his as a elite player. Also it should not be determined by the spot the plays on the field.
Snotboogie
December 23rd, 2010
3:39 pm
Uh Oh. Corey Wimberly got traded to the Pirates. How long before Coach is on here to question Wren?
Roman Gal
December 23rd, 2010
3:41 pm
you people need to entertain me! cab
This guy really knows how to work a crowd:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMgyi57s-A4
Ingenuity at it’s best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmG34QB07Bc
I think I can only post two links at a time, so…
Roman Gal
December 23rd, 2010
3:41 pm
…here you go.
Maybe this is really Dentz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnvgq8STMGM
A classic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N1iwQxiHrs
Consider yourself entertained.
witko
December 23rd, 2010
3:42 pm
Neil Young #34? Guess I missed a lot this year.
Snotboogie
December 23rd, 2010
3:44 pm
RG
Saw your msg for me from the other day.
Roman Gal
December 23rd, 2010
3:45 pm
Please, I’m already worried about 2017
And you should be! That’ll be when I go to my 10-year high school reunion. Crazy!
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
3:45 pm
RG-
NOOOOOOOOO!!! NOT THAT SONG!!!
Roman Gal
December 23rd, 2010
3:46 pm
Snot-
Good. I actually did pick up a pack of pacifiers at Wal-mart, too…just decided at the last minute not to get them.
Roman Gal
December 23rd, 2010
3:47 pm
Geez, Cab…Did you start at the end?
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
3:49 pm
no! But now I can’t remember anything else!
Snotboogie
December 23rd, 2010
3:49 pm
Well, best not to escalate the issue just yet.
Roman Gal
December 23rd, 2010
3:51 pm
Ok, so maybe I put that last one in there to entertain myself…
Roman Gal
December 23rd, 2010
3:53 pm
Maybe, snot. But she’s past the point of being able to do anything about it. I might get if for her as a graduation gift.
What I want for Christmas from DOB
December 23rd, 2010
3:53 pm
All I want from Christmas is ‘Update on Chipper Jones Re-hab’ bloggage from DOB like this story from relief blogger-extraordinaire, Carrol Rogers:
K-Med and medicine balls …
What I want for Christmas from DOB
December 23rd, 2010
3:54 pm
Unfortunately, I’m afraid this story would turn DOB into a fiction writer …
Soph
December 23rd, 2010
3:57 pm
Hi cab.
I can’t pretend to know what they do off field or behind closed doors.
Bingo.
Bat Masterson
December 23rd, 2010
4:01 pm
The safer thing to me would be to make him earn it rather than hand it to him. I’d like to see Kimbrel avoid being Devine’d as much as possible. _ Braveheart
I don’t get the angst over Kimbrel. It would seem if he is closing early next year it’s because he earned it. Earned it by the way he pitched last year and in spring training and the role he has been training for in the minors.
There was a game last year when Cox pulled Kimbrel from a dicey situation and I wondered on the blog if Devine was on Cox’s mind when he did so. If so I think that time has passed. Kimbrel seemed more confidant towards the end of last season and finished strong. .5/bb and 2 K’s an inning…….. 4+ innings and 1 walk in the playoffs. We’ll see.
Venters is more of the sure thing and proven commodity,………… He’s shown he doesn’t get too full of himself when things are going good, and doesn’t get too down when things are going against him.
The game where he blew the run down, but stayed in and worked out of it, convinced me he is one mentally tough guy. Love that……….
Bat Masterson
December 23rd, 2010
4:04 pm
Dap_
Thanks for the link regarding Heap. What’s not to like about that guy, huh.
chadb1733
December 23rd, 2010
4:05 pm
Ok i am not hear to bash McCann. I know alot of people think he is a great player. So lets drop the whole McCann thing, so we can talk some baseball.
Bat Masterson
December 23rd, 2010
4:10 pm
I think is it time to get excited about baseball in Atlanta. They have some great young talent. Heyward is a special talent. They have also added some power which will help them. They should be ready in a few years to take back the division. _ chadb1733
Well you’re a magnanimous so-n-so, chad, gotta give you that.
David O'Brien
December 23rd, 2010
4:15 pm
Here’s link to the full Wren Q&A I just posted: http://bit.ly/hY1s5A
chadb1733
December 23rd, 2010
4:16 pm
Bat Masterson
I think the Braves will win the division in the next few years. I think the Phillies will still hang on for the next 2 maybe 3 years. They still have great players and will have the best staff in baseball for at least the next 4 years. As the Braves young players develop, they will hopefully win a few. But, I also think it will be hard for them to estabish a long win streak because of their decision not to pay players.
Pameeee
December 23rd, 2010
4:25 pm
Here’s wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy & Prosperous New Year!!
Bat Masterson
December 23rd, 2010
4:26 pm
But, I also think it will be hard for them to estabish a long win streak because of their decision not to pay players.
Come on chad, surely you’ve heard of the 13th amendment.
The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution officially abolished and continues to prohibit slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. It was passed by the Senate on April 8, 1864, passed by the House on January 31, 1865, and adopted on December 6, 1865. It was then declared in the proclamation of Secretary of State William H. Seward on December 18
CraZyTRaDeMaN
December 23rd, 2010
4:27 pm
Hope all my Blog friends have a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year! You guys get me through everyday at work. I’d hate to have to spend my time at work actually working.
Time to hit the road on my 1000 stop family visiting trip. See you guys in January.
MIBravesFan
December 23rd, 2010
4:30 pm
Hope you have a Merry Christmas and Hapy New Year too, CraZyTRaDeMaN
MIBravesFan
December 23rd, 2010
4:31 pm
Happy (geez, already with the typos!)
TnBrian
December 23rd, 2010
4:31 pm
chad, I wouldn’t bet on baseball. Weird game which is what’s kept me interested so many years now.
chadb1733
December 23rd, 2010
4:32 pm
nice
Come on chad, surely you’ve heard of the 13th amendment.
MIBravesFan
December 23rd, 2010
4:33 pm
“Pameeee
December 23rd, 2010
4:25 pm
Here’s wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy & Prosperous New Year!!”
You too!
TnBrian
December 23rd, 2010
4:33 pm
$$ Merry Christmas $$ everybody!
TnBrian
December 23rd, 2010
4:35 pm
I work in a department store and talk about crazy crowds and that traffic in the parking lot. I’m lucky to get home in one piece.
chadb1733
December 23rd, 2010
4:36 pm
TnBrian
chad, I wouldn’t bet on baseball. Weird game which is what’s kept me interested so many years now.
It is interesting for sure. However I think the Phillies had the worst year possible last year. They lost every player for sometime to injury and every player had their worst year except for ruiz. However they still won the division easily.
Teabagger Johnson
December 23rd, 2010
4:43 pm
What else is he going to say?
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
4:47 pm
great article by Stewart Mandel on the Ohos State suspensions and the NCAA selective enforcements…
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/stewart_mandel/12/23/ohio-state-suspensions-ncaa/index.html?eref=sihp
Steve from OH
December 23rd, 2010
4:52 pm
cbf–yeah, what a farce. All-around.
Also, what is wrong with them selling their own personal possessions (I’m under the impression that they sold their championship rings and this is why they’re suspended)? That said, I’ll not defend Pryor…I hope he declares for the draft as soon as he can. But I agree, the NCAA is a farce. That’s not Pryor’s fault.
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
4:56 pm
Steve-
I gotta say, all of this is just adding fuel to USC’s appeal…
Steve from OH
December 23rd, 2010
4:57 pm
But what a terrible thing to do, in any case. Sell your Big 10 championship ring? For a puny 1000 dollars? What a show of disrespect and lack of intelligence.
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
4:58 pm
Steve-
It’s just a ring…some people cherish those things more than others (I would never sell mine if I were in that position, but I know people that don’t hold the same sentimental attachment to such things)
Rob
December 23rd, 2010
4:58 pm
Everywhere I see mention of Braves’ Baseball, the mood is always greater than positive about the trade for Dan Uggla. I disagree with this. I think that he is a good power hitter, especially considering how his home run and rbi production rank compared to other second sackers, contemporary and historically. I cannot be excited about this, though, for various reasons.
First, it was defense that cost us the opportunity to advance in the playoffs last year. By putting Uggla in at second, we make the defense at that position weaker. By moving Prado to left, we make that position weaker. That is weaker defense at two positions because of one move.
Second, and maybe I am just crotchety, but I think that Uggla has far too many unproductive AB’s. I have always been of the mindset that K’s are the most overrated stat for a pitcher and most underrated stat for a hitter. Prado provided All-Star production from second base last year. That was not the position we needed to “upgrade.”
Third, we are not sure of how Chipper is going to be after recovering from injury this year. Although we still have Prado and Uggla that can play 2nd and 3rd, we had an easier fix with Prado and Infante, if ever an emergency 3rd bagger was needed or if the game was out of hand and we wanted to give Mr. Jones the rest of the night off.
Last, the outfield is and has been the place where the Braves don’t measure up to the rest of the league. I am not sure of the market for big hitting outfielders this off season, but typically there are more plentiful big bats in the outfield than at second base. Supply and demand suggests that, thereofre, a big outfield bat should cost less than a big second base bat. Were there no outfielders available in our price range that fit the bill? Is the plan to trade Uggla for an outfield bat? Is Uggla even tradeable?
These are my questions. I likelly wont see any answers, as there are so many comments that it is hard to look back and see them, but I am curious what others think of my thoughts.
Steve from OH
December 23rd, 2010
4:59 pm
cbf–Yes! And even so, it is extremely unfair to punish an entire program like that for the transgressions of few. How can Carroll or Tressel or whoever monitor 100 kids on a college campus? It’s impossible. And to make the others suffer like they did at USC is a terrible thing to do. The NCAA needs to do some serious thinking about their rules and regulations, and soon.
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
5:00 pm
Is the plan to trade Uggla for an outfield bat?
I’m going to go out on a limb here and say no.
N8
December 23rd, 2010
5:01 pm
“BMac has been THE best catcher in the majors over the last 4 seasons…Silver Sluggers are piling up as are All-Star game appearances…” P-Town
Let’s not get carried away here. Mac has been the best HITTING catcher in the majors the last 4 seasons.
Mac’s not even the best defensive catcher on his own team.
Besides, Buster Posey will probably interrupt some of those silver slugger and all-star appearances the next couple years unless Mac goes off. But generic voters are going to vote for the recognizable name and winning the ROY and the WS in the same year, usually makes the voting skewed in the short term.
Mac will still go to the all-star game. But it wouldn’t shock me at all if Posey is voted in next year, based on what he did this past year.
That is unless you think the city of Atlanta will band together and pile of the votes for Mac? My guess is SF fans will be a little more die-hard about it.
Steve from OH
December 23rd, 2010
5:01 pm
It’s just a ring
If that’s the case, why are they suspended? It’s their own personal property, after all.
And even so, I think it’s terribly disrespectful to your school, your teammates, and to yourself to sell something like that. Especially when you’re likely to head to the NFL or (at the very least) a cushy booster-supported job somewhere. At the very least, it shows how stupid the kid is. As if I haven’t heard a thing or two, anyway.
Salty Dawg
December 23rd, 2010
5:01 pm
Happy Holidays all!
Looking for some advice and I know the topic of skiing has come up here several times. Any recommendations for a good place to go skiing relatively near Georgia? Just a bunch of beginners, so we’re more concerned about nice lodging that break-neck slopes. I’m hoping to find a cool place to take the family for Christmas next year. A nice rustic type cabin close to decent ski accommodations would be awesome.
Steve from OH
December 23rd, 2010
5:02 pm
Well, I’m out. I’ll chat with y’all later.
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
5:06 pm
Steve-
The thing is, almost all of what USC got punished so harshly for are things that Reggie’s parents supposedly did. Not Reggie, not the school, his parents. And none of the allegations have anything to do directly with the school or anyone assoicated with the school. (Nor did they have anything to do with Reggie’s ability to play football.) So just to recap: USC gets a 2 year bowl ban and a reduction of 30 scholarships over 3 years because a player’s parents were involved with an agent, but Cam Newton’s dad openly shops his kid to schools for $180,000 but doesn’t tell his son- and we all believe that one- so there is no punishment and Ohio State gets basically slapped on the wrist because the players “didn’t know they were breaking the rules”…which USC was told was no excuse. Did I leave anything out?? OK- getting ranty again. Stopping now.
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
5:08 pm
Steve-
I think the suspensions are just stupid. It is their own property but apparently they can’t profit off their football abilities, even though everyone else does.
MIBravesFan
December 23rd, 2010
5:11 pm
cabravesfan – I don’t think the penalty issues about the Cam Newton situation have been dealt with yet. I think that ruling was just about eligibility. I could be wrong, but I think what has happened so far with Auburn was from a different NCAA unit. And isn’t there also an ongoing FBI investigation?
northbeach Scott
December 23rd, 2010
5:12 pm
Rob,
You have some catching up to do on this subject as it has been covered ad nausuem on the blog. If you cannot be bothered to keep up with the blog, we cannot be bothered to give you a more thorough response.
McFann O O
December 23rd, 2010
5:13 pm
DAP—
Thank you SO much for posting that article!!!
I’d read a smaller story about that shortly after it happened…really enjoyed reading more about it.
I ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ BMac!
Such a great guy. And I’m so happy for that little boy, especially now that he’s cancer-free!!
cabravesfan leaders don’t necessarily have to be the screaming, get in your face type of guy. Mac doesn’t strike me as that type of guy, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a leader of this team
Very true. Matt Diaz said BMac was without question the leader of the Braves—DOB posted the quotes…I think it was 2009.
chadb1733
December 23rd, 2010
5:18 pm
Cool if this is true and he is the leader than you keep him and build team around him.
cabravesfan
December 23rd, 2010
5:19 pm
MIBravesFan-
The problem (for me at least- although I think a lot of people feel the same way) is in the explaination- that He was eligible because he “didn’t know” what his dad was doing. With the Reggie Bush case (and I keep using that as an example because it’s the one I am most familiar with) USC showed pretty good evidence that they were unaware of what his parents were doing and were told that not knowing was not an excuse for it to happen. So my issue is that even if Cam didn’t know (really trying not to laugh every time I tyoe that) it should not have mattered to the NCAA…he should have been ruled ineligible if they were using the same guidelines they did with USC. But since it was right before one of the biggest games of the year, suddenly it was OK…
DAMN-IT! YOU PEOPLE NEED TO STOP MAKING ME RANT!!!
nolie
December 23rd, 2010
5:19 pm
As good as Wagner was, the performances of the guys setting up for him were almost as vital last season mr baseball
yes they were and that is actually mtmain worry with losing him. and Saito. the other guys have to move uo which IMO gives us more question marks even id K & V do well.
Lew
December 23rd, 2010
5:21 pm
Bat – Not only has slavery been abolished, but they did away with the Reserve Clause, too.
chadb1733
December 23rd, 2010
5:24 pm
nolie
should not be a problem linbrink and sherill are dependable. The two could also close if need be.
chadb1733
December 23rd, 2010
5:26 pm
rob
I agree that is was not the best thing they could have done. I have been saying they needed an outfield bat for years. However if they are not willing to spend more or give up prospects, this is how it turns out.
Bat Masterson
December 23rd, 2010
5:27 pm
It would seem everyone is ticked off with the NCAA, as well they should be. They are trying to control an uncontrollable situation and at the same time defend the indefensible.
MIBravesFan
December 23rd, 2010
5:28 pm
Sorry cabravesfan, not trying to do that, and not defending Cam Newton or the NCAA ruling. I’m just not sure that what has happened so far is the end of it. If/when “the other shoe” drops, it could be bad news for Auburn, too.