In wake of Lee signing, don’t expect Braves to change course – updated

For those wondering what the Braves reaction to Cliff Lee’s signing with the Phillies, it won’t be knee-jerk.

While the Phillies just added the gem of the free agent class to an already vaunted rotation, Braves general manager Frank Wren said Tuesday it won’t have any direct bearing on their next move.

“It really has no impact on the construction of our roster,” Wren said in an e-mail. “We will continue to work to get better, but we are in most regards ready for spring training. We feel our club matches up well with other clubs in our division.”

The Braves took care of their biggest need last month by trading for Marlins second baseman Dan Uggla, the power bat they’d been seeking for the middle of the order. Since then they’ve added some key pieces to their bullpen in veteran Scott Linebrink and left-hander George Sherrill and they resigned Eric Hinske for their bench.

Those moves have catcher Brian McCann excited about the season regardless of what the Phillies did.

“They got better, we got better,” McCann said. “…Obviously it makes the Phillies a better ball club, but I don’t really worry about what other teams do. I think we have a team that’s a championship caliber team, and I’m excited to get the season started.”

The Braves’ biggest questions at this point are whether Chipper Jones will return to health at third base and if Nate McLouth will return to form in center field. They could still make a move for an outfielder, most likely a backup centerfielder, but they are limited financially, with possibly only a few million to work with unless they can unload some of Kenshin Kawakami’s salary in a trade. So far they’ve found no takers.

Now the Braves, who finished six games behind the Phillies in the NL East last season and settled for the wild card, will have to contend with a rotation that just got significantly better, adding Lee to reigning NL Cy Young award winner Roy Halladay, Roy Oswalt and Cole Hamels.

But McCann and the Braves are confident they can contend with their rotation of Tim Hudson, Derek Lowe, a healthy Jair Jurrjens and Tommy Hanson.

“We can compete with anybody, I feel like,” McCann said. “Now that our lineup has gotten stronger and Jason Heyward is a year older and (Martin) Prado is going to come back healthy, I really feel that we have a championship-caliber team.”

 He also points out that nothing is decided in December.

“Baseball, you play 162 games, people get hurt,” McCann said. “Injuries play a big part in teams that make the playoffs and don’t. Nothing is going to be won over offseason acquisitions.”

- By Carroll Rogers, Braves blog

407 comments Add your comment

BobHornersCast

December 14th, 2010
11:18 am

f’n phillies

richbrave

December 14th, 2010
11:19 am

I have been trying in vein to find individual game stats of each individual on the 2011 PHILLIES staff vs. the BRAVES in 2010. Anybody got a clue?

Yakman

December 14th, 2010
11:19 am

Anyone else think that this should at least warrant a call to Wagner’s Alpaca farm about that option?

Maybe he’ll trade us some equipment for Kawakami.

First

December 14th, 2010
11:20 am

Joey M

December 14th, 2010
11:24 am

We need a major deal like a trade for Zach Greinke. And a table setter in CF to get our lineup hitting. I would like to see Ellsbury in CF. He’s fast, he can bunt for a hit, and he’s a gamer. If we stand pat, we will watch our Eastern rivals go to the World Series once again.

Joey M

December 14th, 2010
11:28 am

richbrave, you will not be able to find that information until November 2011. The Phillies staff doesn’t have 2011 stats because it’s still 2010. Unless you have a DeLorean that can go 88 mph, you will be stuck looking at 2010 stats as a comparison.

Cmon Man

December 14th, 2010
11:29 am

I remember when Lee was just an average pitcher fighting for the fifth spot in the Indians rotation. He really must love wearing the feminine rosy red!

Ramlin on

December 14th, 2010
11:31 am

Have no Fear SCHAFER is here.

AdirondackDave

December 14th, 2010
11:32 am

justwanna win

December 14th, 2010
11:33 am

Sign Bill Hall and trade for J Upton……….Thats all we need.

Donovan

December 14th, 2010
11:34 am

I don’t want to sing, Turn out the lights…the party’s over, but the main reason for ending up 6 games out of 1st place was the fact that Philly employed 3 aces on their mound. Now it seems that the deck is further stacked with the acquisition of “Lights Out Lee”. Lord help us!

AdirondackDave

December 14th, 2010
11:34 am

I think the Braves may have just gone from co-favorite in NL East to a pretty distant second.

Price66

December 14th, 2010
11:36 am

I like Tim Hudson vs Cliff Lee and I like JJ vs Oswalt and I like Hanson vs Hamels, but Lowe on his best day is not close to Halladay. We need a strong 5th starter. Ellsbury is not the answer, he would cost way too many prospects. I say give Matt Young and Jordan Schafer a chance to battle out the CF job and use McLouth as a filler. Spend the money or prospects on Zach Greinke and keep the palying field equal.

justwanna win

December 14th, 2010
11:36 am

I hope Parish is worth his salt. Got to be better than TP.

Dick Ankles

December 14th, 2010
11:36 am

Pray for Philadelphia injuries!!!

Raider Fan

December 14th, 2010
11:37 am

Trading for Ellsbury and Greinke would be awesome, but it won’t happen. Why? ‘Cause the Braves don’t need to trade for either one. As usual, they’re banking on the players jelling to form a really cohesive lineup and staff, and I feel they’re actually right. They have SO much pitching depth and talent in the minors that they have the luxury of picking and choosing what they want to do. Do the Phillies have a great staff? Yes. Is it possible the Braves could have an even better staff in 2-3 years? No doubt.

BS

December 14th, 2010
11:39 am

BEWARE!……..ramblingman is now trolling.

lexbrave

December 14th, 2010
11:39 am

ha i called this generic bs response by wren about an hour ago. must be nice to be a gm for a team that has owners who care about more than counting their piles of cash.

HCR#7

December 14th, 2010
11:39 am

I know this won’t happen and we aren’t making anymore big moves but it’s just an idea so don’t burn me on this. Trade Julio Teheran, Brandon Beachy, Christian Bethancourt, Matt Young or Mycal Jones to the Pirates for Andrew McCutchen…That’d be the only way I’d give up Teheran.

AdirondackDave

December 14th, 2010
11:40 am

On the bright side, at least the Yankees didn’t get him and they won’t match up well against the Red Sox in ‘11. Take your pleasures where you can find them.

PDOG

December 14th, 2010
11:41 am

Maybe they can dump KK on the Yanks or Rangers

Die hard

December 14th, 2010
11:42 am

Liberty Media needs to sell the team to someone who gives a f**k about winning.

AdirondackDave

December 14th, 2010
11:43 am

HCR#7 — Not Teheran but the others yes.

Buster

December 14th, 2010
11:43 am

Wren said just what any GM would say.You can’t make deals and trades from a got to attitude.
The Man is thinging as we post, bet on it.
They’re some other very good pitchers out there still.

Buster

December 14th, 2010
11:46 am

AdirondackDave agree no to Teheran..ok with others

lexbrave

December 14th, 2010
11:46 am

On the bright side, at least the Yankees didn’t get him and they won’t match up well against the Red Sox in ‘11. Take your pleasures where you can find them.

is a red sox v. phills world series any less disgusting in your eyes?

cause it certainly is in mine.

meh

December 14th, 2010
11:46 am

McLouth, KK, and Beachy to the Reds for Drew Stubbs. Make it happen Frank Wren.

Naf Sevarb

December 14th, 2010
11:46 am

We will be fine. They(Philly) are not going to win 120 games. They wont be much better than last year so I feel pretty good about our chances. There lineup is older and more injury prone. We will be fine and as the last playoffs show just get in and see what happens. I kinda remember the braves having 4 studs and only one the WS once.

HCR#7

December 14th, 2010
11:46 am

Randall Delgado,Corey Rasmus,Brandon Beachy,Christian Bethancourt, and Matt Young or Mycal Jones for McCutchen.

Naf Sevarb

December 14th, 2010
11:47 am

Hey meh, put down the pipe my friend. Who would take KK and McLouth? Only somebody that is smoking what you are.

Naf Sevarb

December 14th, 2010
11:49 am

You are right. We need an owner that cares.

BraveFan

December 14th, 2010
11:49 am

We Never have enough bats

HCR#7

December 14th, 2010
11:49 am

I only included Teheran because that would probably be more appealing to the Pirates .

The truth

December 14th, 2010
11:49 am

The braves suck

HCR#7

December 14th, 2010
11:50 am

I seriously hope Liberty Media sells the team after the 2011 season. Arthur Blanks or Ted Turner would be awesome.

jonathan Simeone

December 14th, 2010
11:50 am

What the Braves really need is a new owner. Until their payroll can top the 100 million-dollar amount they are going to have trouble hanging with the Phillies.

We ready

December 14th, 2010
11:51 am

Tim Hudson, Tommy Hanson, JJ, and the new Derek Lowe isn’t exactly chop liver. We need more offense!!!

The truth

December 14th, 2010
11:52 am

If the Giants rotation made the braves look like they couldn’t hit golf balls, what do you think the phillies will do? Roy, Cliff, Roy, and Cole will destroy the braves

ryan

December 14th, 2010
11:53 am

Bunch of over paid weenies screw baseball period .

The truth

December 14th, 2010
11:53 am

Tim Hudson, Tommy Hanson, JJ, and the new Derek Lowe

That rotation is REAL scary

JoeMac

December 14th, 2010
11:53 am

You are correct. The Braves had the stud pitchers, but won only one WS because the stud pitchers could not overcome the dud manager.

AdirondackDave

December 14th, 2010
11:53 am

Lexbrave — Yup, Sox vs. Phils is less annoying. I blame the Yankees (and accomplice Selig) for the gigantic imbalance in club payrolls. Profit sharing means nothing when you simply have the ownership and profit capability to spend in unlimited amounts.

James

December 14th, 2010
11:54 am

Brian Jordan on MLB Network. Jordan says Phillies just bought ticket to WS. However he said that the Braves need some power for the outfield and they’ll be good to go, including the addition of Uggla. We also have a good rotation.

Gwinnett Fred

December 14th, 2010
11:56 am

This move doesn’t surprise me at all.
1- He was NOT going to NY after the incident with his wife in the playoffs, I don’t care what anybody says
2- Texas just doesn’t have deep enough pockets
3- The Phillies have more money than they know what to do with. With 3+ straight years of selling out every dang game, they are equal to the Yankees with disposable cash and Lee had a positive experience when he was there.

As for the Braves. They cannot match this or even come close. What they need to do is what they have been doing with the salary restrictions placed upon them: Spend wisely and form as good of a TEAM as possible – superstars will not be added.

HCR#7

December 14th, 2010
12:04 pm

Well it would never hurt to ask the Pirates…

WOW

December 14th, 2010
12:04 pm

Among 456 of the largest U.S. public companies. Maffei, the head of liberty Media Corp., which owns the Braves, tops the list. if a company is so flush with dollars that the CEO can draw an income of $87.1 million, is there not another $15 to $20 million a year for the Braves to beef up their lineup? Braves 2010 payroll was $84 million, $3 million less than Maffei’s salary. Don’t put the blame on Frank Wren!! It’s these crappy owners who don’t care about winning.

Joey

December 14th, 2010
12:05 pm

Didn’t we just add a young, stud outfielder – name of Martin Prado?

AdirondackDave

December 14th, 2010
12:05 pm

WOW — Agree with you on that.

Yea....Stand pat Frank Wren

December 14th, 2010
12:10 pm

What needs to happen is trade Beachy or Minor along with any minor leagers other than Teheran for Justin Upton… end of discussion, this would be the only way we compete for the East. Period

Reid Adair

December 14th, 2010
12:10 pm

Of course they won’t change. Frank Wren is in charge. Did anyone really think Cliff Lee’s signing would affect the Braves’ actions?

lexbrave

December 14th, 2010
12:10 pm

AdirondackDave – i guess the red sox have just gotten on my nerves lately, all their fans do is complain about how much money the yanks spend and this will be the 2nd offseason in a row that they have outspent every team in baseball. by a lot.

Jeremy

December 14th, 2010
12:11 pm

Joey hit it on the head, everyone is freaking out about the Phillies. Pretty similar to last year when everyone was saying they were a lock to win it all. I am curious to know who they are replacing Werth with? Prado will be in the top 5 LF’s by the end of the year COUNT ON IT!

Phils Suck!

December 14th, 2010
12:13 pm

I really hate that every time the Braves get closer to Philly in talent, via Uggla, they simply go off and spend $100 million and poof they jump leaps and bounds back ahead.
I agree with most people on this poll that we have the pitching to stay with them, but our achillies heel will once again be our bats.
We cannot stake our year on Chipper remaining healthy and coming back to form and Mclouth remembering how to hit the ball.
I love this team and I think we will still win the wild card, but WREN get us some more offense and a true table setter at the top of the lineup. Prado is great, but he does not run very often, which is something this team is missing and its something the Phils have.

kdbanks01

December 14th, 2010
12:15 pm

Where does Philly get all this money?

lexbrave

December 14th, 2010
12:15 pm

wren’s comments are kinda like somebody asking me if the fact that my neighbor buying his 2nd benz will have any effect on my next car purchase.

we both pull the insides of our pockets out and just shrug.

gene garbage

December 14th, 2010
12:15 pm

dang, i just made a comment over the weekend that i really hope Lee don’t sign with the Yankees, just so that they don’t get their way(like they seem to always do)….can i take that back now???

braves95js

December 14th, 2010
12:15 pm

I agree that the Braves will not add any stars, because there is money. But I do expect one more addition… maybe in the outfield? Frank should acquire a young backup centerfielder that is a character guy.

richbrave

December 14th, 2010
12:16 pm

richbrave

December 14th, 2010
11:19 am
I have been trying in vein to find individual game stats of each individual on the 2011 PHILLIES staff vs. the BRAVES in 2010. Anybody got a clue?

Joey M

December 14th, 2010
11:28 am
richbrave, you will not be able to find that information until November 2011. The Phillies staff doesn’t have 2011 stats because it’s still 2010. Unless you have a DeLorean that can go 88 mph, you will be stuck looking at 2010 stats as a comparison.

Did you not understand what I am looking for? I’m looking for 2010 stats of LEE, HAMELS BLANTON, HALLIDAY and OSWALT against the BRAVES.

Dan

December 14th, 2010
12:16 pm

Looks like Texas and the Yankees need pitching and we have plenty to trade!

AdirondackDave

December 14th, 2010
12:16 pm

Lesbrave — I see your point. I may be over the top on this but I really put primary blame on the Yanks and Steinbrenner along with culprit Selig for the modern imbalance in baseball. I cheer whenever they don’t live up to expectations after spending 200M+ on their annual payroll.

nemov

December 14th, 2010
12:17 pm

Jeremy is right… the Phillies already had a team capable of making the playoffs. Adding Lee doesn’t really improve their playoff staff. If they don’t replace Werth there not as good as last year.

BravoHeart

December 14th, 2010
12:17 pm

Perfect counter,

Grienke,J Upton/L. Cain, and Bill Hall..Bravos are back in the hunt by also including KK,Lowe, and McClouth in the 2 trades..

Liberty Media is the blame also but I doubt FW is pushing for more money to spend..

Joey

December 14th, 2010
12:18 pm

Stand pat? Who has made more moves than Wren? And he never shows his hand before making a move.

I think he’s shown he’ll do everthing he can, within his budget, to help the team. My guess is Wren waits until June to see what McLouth, Young, and Shafer can do in CF.

Who knows, maybe Parrish helps McLouth get back his swing, and he puts up his ‘08 numbers.

Dean

December 14th, 2010
12:18 pm

No need to panic. Is it just me but is Lee pumped up by the media becuase he has been so strong against the Yankees in the last two postseasons. Don’t get me wrong, he is very good but let’s not get carried away with this like ESPN wants you to do. They got 4 good starters who have about 2 more years in each of their primes. The lineup is old and you could see the production fall off steeply last year plus they lost werth. Yes, they will be favored but you still have to play the games. They also have no bullpen and they push their starters for heavy innings work. They are primed to break down over the long haul of a season. Do not panic and change your opporating mode becuase of another teams actions.

JoeFan

December 14th, 2010
12:19 pm

The Braves should have enough in the tank to fight for the wildcard and who knows if one or two of the Phillies starters will have less than stellar years. Lets play the games before crowning them champions.

Tomahawk'n

December 14th, 2010
12:19 pm

DOB – tell the real story why the Braves won’t try to match the Phillies’ move in signing Lee — MONEY! The Braves are almost maxed at payroll that the cheap tightwads at Liberty Media give the Braves. Plus, if the Braves do deal KK, they have to eat at least 4 of the 6 million dollars that they owe him. Two million dollars isn’t going to get you a very good pitcher, unless you do trade KK and then, you’d have to trade the farm away to KC to get Greinke for ONE YEAR, because Liberty Media isn’t going to pad the payroll for his salary for 4 or more years. That hasn’t worked out well lately — Mark Teixeira, the most shing example of late.
The Braves despirately need new ownership!

Ray Pugh

December 14th, 2010
12:19 pm

Do you chicken littles not realize the Phillies lost Jayson Werth, arguably their best position player last year and are replacing him w/ a rookie who flopped last year?

Coach13

December 14th, 2010
12:20 pm

At this point we don’t need pitching. We need another upgrade to the offense. The only producers in this linuep are Prado, Heyward, Uggla, and McCann. Mcclouth has had 1 good year, Chipper is worthless, Gonzo had the best year of his career last year and Freeman is a rookie. Braves are now playing for the Wild Card again. It would go a long way to getting a leadoff hitter that can steal bases.

Breeze

December 14th, 2010
12:22 pm

Now I know how other teams felt when we ran out Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz every three days. Except now the Phillies can make it through four days. Remember last year when the Phillies went through a slump that left them 7 games out and then they regrouped to finish 6 games ahead of the Braves, a 13 game swing. If they stay healthy all year the rest of the east division will scramble to see who can finish 20 games behind in second place. Ah, how nice it is to have money and be able to purchase 75% of your starting pitchers from other teams.

The Real Brave

December 14th, 2010
12:22 pm

You’re kidding right? Exactly what type move would the Braves even consider.
We don’t sign Type-A free agents; we don’t trade for Type-A players with multi-year contracts; we don’t make moves to compete at the top level in our sport!

Who do you think we are? The Falcons?

Dean

December 14th, 2010
12:22 pm

More to the point.. Do not trade your minor league pitching. We can be cometitive now and we can be very good in the near future. You only have to get into the posseason and then get hot. We are built to be in the postseason. Stop listening to the media heads who will go on and on about this. It’s not that big a deal. The Phils were already good. This maybe gives them 5 more wins a season and possibly gives them the edge in postseason series.

braves95js

December 14th, 2010
12:23 pm

Other teams are picking up more interesting and cheap free-agent nontenders than Mather, and I think theres room for a centerfielder that is ready to start instead of McLouth if he doesnt come around after this lonnggg second chance. Melky was not the answer.

monty

December 14th, 2010
12:24 pm

Now I know how all the Phillie fans felt all those years when Ted Turner owned the Braves!

Ray Pugh

December 14th, 2010
12:24 pm

And that we added the lefty-mashing power hitting we’ve been dying for since Texeira? All is not lost…

Will

December 14th, 2010
12:24 pm

Until us Braves fans start appreciating the team enough to show up and pack out the Ted for every game like the Yanks, Phils, and Sox, then why should we expect ownership to spend like them. Wren only has so much to work with. We can’t afford to mortgage our future in an arms race we can’t possibly win. In Frank and Freddie we trust…

Joey

December 14th, 2010
12:24 pm

I believe Philly did this because of the Braves lineup. If Chipper can still play, look at our lineup. It’s got a hell of a lot more pop than the World Champ Giants . . .

big o

December 14th, 2010
12:25 pm

Wow !!! The Phillies are now built to win the division because I dont see any long loosing streaks coming. If we can get in via wildcard then I think the Giants showed that anything can happen. So Phuck the Phillies… I just wish our ownership would spend some of that loot so we can get a slugger and out score them.

Joey

December 14th, 2010
12:25 pm

Right, Dean, Lee lost twice to the Giants in the WS.

HCR#7

December 14th, 2010
12:27 pm

Hopefully we’ll survive with what we got lol

Ken Price

December 14th, 2010
12:29 pm

big 4 for phillies career era of 3.47.
big 4 for braves career era of 3.48.

lexbrave

December 14th, 2010
12:30 pm

AdirondackDave – you are right…the yanks say they spend the money because mlb allows them to, the red sox say they spend the money because the yanks do and the braves say they don’t spend money because they don’t care what the phils do.

at the end of the day, the only one to blame is mlb/players union for setting up such a flawed scenario of unfairness. that is why they are so quick to point out how much parity they believe exists when one of their cash cash lucks up and wins the world series with 100 million payroll instead of a 150+ million payroll.

The truth

December 14th, 2010
12:34 pm

Frank Wren will stand pat with injury prone chipper jones and the braves will suck once again. Everyone is satisfied with Dan Uggla but can he pitch to? We need another top pitcher

Lomas

December 14th, 2010
12:36 pm

My biggest fear is that the Braves stand pat and then next year the salaries of KK and Nate McLouth come off the books and Liberty Media does nothing except slash salary again.

richbrave

December 14th, 2010
12:37 pm

December 14th, 2010
12:23 pm
“……..Other teams are picking up more interesting and cheap free-agent nontenders than Mather………,”

The point is that the BRAVES think MATHER best fits THEIR needs not that someone else is better overall. That individual may not be what the BRAVES want in place because there’s no guarantee that player fits well in the BRAVES scheme of things. He might very well be a better player……..but somewhere else.

Mattatrab

December 14th, 2010
12:37 pm

Adiding uggla doesn’t make us good enough to beat the phils no matter how big of a piece braves management want to sale it to the fans. We need a big bat in centerfield.

braves95js

December 14th, 2010
12:38 pm

Pick up Reed Johnson or Fred Lewis and they could contribute now instead of wating til the summer to make the outfield stronger.

Bravo Scott

December 14th, 2010
12:39 pm

From those links, you can find their 2010 stats vs. current Braves.

Bravo Scott

December 14th, 2010
12:41 pm

richbrave,
If you go to Yahoo player pages, you can search Batter Vs. Hitter pages and see each year vs. a particular team. That is the easiest way I know to see each player vs. the Braves.

ramblingman

December 14th, 2010
12:42 pm

richbrave, I understood what you were asking. Try baseball-reference.com. Look up each pitcher then you can look at splits for each year or by career. That will give you their records against Atlanta for last year.

(continuing to ignore the troll puppy that nips at my heels because I embarrassed him thoroughly a few days ago)

lexbrave

December 14th, 2010
12:42 pm

will, your argument is like a move studio saying we’ll start putting johnny depp in our movies when more people start paying to see movies with jon gossling.in them.

The Sham

December 14th, 2010
12:44 pm

Halliday vs Hudson = tie (consistently great stuff on both parts)
Lee vs Jurrjens = tie (if JJ is healthy)
Hamels vs Hansen = tie (both can be extremely hot or cold)
Oswalt vs Lowe = tie (both impressed down the stretch)
Blanton vs Minor = Advantage Braves (Minor was far better his first couple starts. I believe he just got noodle arm from pitching longer into the year than he had ever done before.) If Medlin was here, then this would be a slam dunk Braves advantage.

Bottom line = the bats will decide this year’s series. Lets hope we catch them on the back end of their rotation and our bats step up. They couldn’t be more clutch but they can come to life earlier in the game… No pressure Ugla, but you getter bring your UGLY STICK!

To DOB – No charge for my expert analysis! ;)

Chaos

December 14th, 2010
12:44 pm

I trust in what Wern has been able to do so far, the Braves have always been station-to-station hitters, thats the way Bobby did it. Im hoping the new folks will employ the ability to create runs when the the bats are cold. The best run in baseball is the one scored without a hit! get some speed at the top of the lineup.

Mark

December 14th, 2010
12:45 pm

To those of you crying out for a big trade.. Remember what we gave up for JD Drew and Mark Teixiera? Wainwright, Feliz, and Andrus just to name a few. To me, this move by Philly says they know they only have one maybe two more years left to win the WS with this group. Trading big time prospects is not the answer. The Giants proved anything is possible in the playoffs. Its all about chemistry and being hot at the right time. Be patient.

bob

December 14th, 2010
12:47 pm

Braves have the starting pitching, it is fielding, speed and a leadoff hitter they lack.
The season has a funny way of making December views seem silly though.

Mike Bobo 17Int.

December 14th, 2010
12:47 pm

To win a Championship the Braves need to dump Chipper!

The truth

December 14th, 2010
12:47 pm

Halliday vs Hudson = tie (consistently great stuff on both parts)
Lee vs Jurrjens = tie (if JJ is healthy)
Hamels vs Hansen = tie (both can be extremely hot or cold)
Oswalt vs Lowe = tie (both impressed down the stretch)

The Sham has left no doubt that he is a complete idiot

Jeremy

December 14th, 2010
12:48 pm

Good point Ken, they may have a stacked rotation but I’m sure a lot of teams wish they had our rotation. The games still have to be played and we added a lot of pop with Uggs and I think Wren may make another small tweak or two but we aren’t in a bad spot at all and I can’t wait to see the look on the Phuckin Phils when we win the division!

Nova Scotia Steve

December 14th, 2010
12:48 pm

Ken Price – RE: 12:29 post

Let’s see where that ERA is in three years -

Jason

December 14th, 2010
12:49 pm

Since everyone else throws out there dream trades here is my fantasy trade that I think the BRaves should try for:

A 3 team trade with Royals and Yanks. Lowe and McClouth to Yanks, with us picking up McClouths salary, Greinke and Gardner here. Royals get Beachy, and 3 prospects(2 which are good) and Cervelli of the Yanks to the Royals since the Yanks got Martin.

Dumb Braves Fan

December 14th, 2010
12:52 pm

How about

McLouth, KK for Pujols? the salaries match

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