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Tomas
December 14th, 2010
7:54 pm
or Dontrail Willis
Eric In Albany N.Y.
December 14th, 2010
7:55 pm
Last year the braves fans had no reason to believe our pitching staff couldnt win for us… this year is no different… other teams can do all they want to make super teams and great pitching staffs or offencive teams but well rounded teams with good clubhouse chemestry can win too!
see also rangers giants rays and others… im honestly glad we’re all complaining about the pitchers philly has and not complaining about our own!
Braveheart
December 14th, 2010
7:58 pm
Tweet of the Day by The Jay Hey Kid in response to a question by a Phillies fan on his thoughts on facing the Phillies rotation next season:
@JasonHeyward: I ain’t shook.
Paul Snyder
December 14th, 2010
7:58 pm
Chopshop – My top 10 is almost exactly the same…maybe I swap Beachy and Carlos Perez’s positions…but I have Edward Salcedo at #10…and JJ Hoover right outside the top 10…I’m sure you know all about Salcedo…but for those who don’t, Salcedo is a Dominican SS…and the Braves highest $ international sign ever…just turned 19 in July/Aug…came over to the States in July and played a couple of months at Rome as an 18 (or just turning 19) year old…struggled a little bit numbers wise…but was very young for the league…and was also adjusting not only to pro ball…but being in the US…had some visa problems initially in getting back to the US…just the fact that he was sent straight to Rome (and not Danville) at that age shows how impressive he is…very impressive tools…and a very impressive looking athlete…already about 6-2 195…some think he might ultimately profile at 3B or even LF down the road…esp if he grows more or puts on a lot more muscle…but some think that outside of Freddie Freeman he’s our best position player prospect…
Maybe on the others of note I add Joe Leonard, Cory Gearrin, Tyler Pastornicky, Cory Harrilchak…but that always depends on where you want to draw the line…
Jim
December 14th, 2010
8:01 pm
don’t forget IF Phil Gosselin, drafted last year from UVA. Not a top 10 yet, but will play in majors in 2-3 years.
Jake W.
December 14th, 2010
8:06 pm
@JasonHeyward: I ain’t shook.
Thats what i’m talking about. Hopefully an extra digit for Jason can lead to some better production against the phils next year. That and just having a little experience under his belt. Ready to see how this season will play out. Interesting offseason to say the least.
Soph
December 14th, 2010
8:09 pm
I don’t think Soph undersells Avery……
You know it, McFann. Avery was to me what Mac is to you. It’s pretty ironic because I was listening to 680 interview him on my way home from work earlier this evening – right around the same time you posted that.
nolie
December 14th, 2010
8:10 pm
not sure Salcedo is gonna make the top 10 after last year. If he does it will speak volumes as to how weak the system is after the top half dozen or so
Trey
December 14th, 2010
8:10 pm
Who knows, maybe Cliff Lee will pull a Mike Hampton next season and this deal will be a huge waste of money for them. I don’t wish injury upon anyone, but that would be, well, I don’t know the word to decribe.
Soph
December 14th, 2010
8:11 pm
@JasonHeyward: I ain’t shook.
I love it.
keylargo
December 14th, 2010
8:11 pm
Paul Snyder – I apologize for getting Greinke’s salary wrong. I included the first two years in addition to the last two of his heavily backloaded contract. You were right that he is due $13.5 M in 11 and 12. The $4 and $7 were 09 and 10.
You have to look at Greinke’s 09 season to see what he is capable of. American League, bad defense and he is 16w and 8l with a 2.17 era and a 1.07 WHIP More than a strikeout an inning in 229 innings. All for the Royals.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/greinza01.shtml
Jake W.
December 14th, 2010
8:17 pm
Who knows, maybe Cliff Lee will pull a Mike Hampton next season and this deal will be a huge waste of money for them. I don’t wish injury upon anyone, but that would be, well, I don’t know the word to decribe.
I don’t wish bad luck on anyone but this rotation has drawn a lot of comparisons to the braves of the 90’s and the Maddux acquisition but its important to point out that when Maddux joined the braves he and the other parts of that great rotation were on the right side of 30. 3 of the phillies big four are on the other side. Its something to consider, the injury thing, which is why I heard someone on mlb network say they wish that they could keep Blanton for insurance purposes in case one of them goes down but his salary doesn’t really make that ideal.
nolie
December 14th, 2010
8:17 pm
KC has been specific about what they want for the G man, we ain’t really got it
Trey
December 14th, 2010
8:22 pm
Jake W, I think their rotation can be the most related to the Braves rotation of the 90s, but I think we still had the better of the two pitching rotations.
nolie
December 14th, 2010
8:24 pm
walk walk walk
Oh no. a graveyard
twee twee twee
McFann O O
December 14th, 2010
8:26 pm
Thanks for the BMac quotes, Ms. Rogers! Excellent points and good to hear (read) from him. What’s he been up to, anyway?
Soph Avery was to me what Mac is to you.
Oooo…shcary!
Nah, I knew you had a soft spot for Avery… 
It’s pretty ironic because I was listening to 680 interview him on my way home from work earlier this evening – right around the same time you posted that.
Whoa, creepy. Suddenly I feel psychic…
(That’s uh, psychic, not psycho, remember…)
McFann O O
December 14th, 2010
8:27 pm
MIBravesFan I knew he was smart (he had to be to step in and handle Smoltzie and the veteran pitchers the way he did from the start) but he reminded me of that when he said “Nothing is going to be won over offseason acquisitions.” Well said, Brian!
Yep! Yep yep yep…he’s no dummy, that’s for darn!
Soph
December 14th, 2010
8:28 pm
Hi nolie, I read about your mom. Best wishes to her and you – hopefully, all goes well.
Soph
December 14th, 2010
8:29 pm
McFann the psychic, do tell. Will we win it all next season? How many doubles will Mac have?
nolie
December 14th, 2010
8:29 pm
thanx soph, they did the procedure today. got 4 stones out. she is feeling some better
Bravefaninok
December 14th, 2010
8:31 pm
nolie
December 14th, 2010
8:29 pm
thanx soph, they did the procedure today. got 4 stones out. she is feeling some better
That is good news nolie,glad shes doing better.
Soph
December 14th, 2010
8:32 pm
Good to hear, noles. Glad she’s feeling a bit better.
Trey
December 14th, 2010
8:33 pm
Nolie, I read about your mother from Sophie’s post. I hope your mom does feel better soon.
cabravesfan
December 14th, 2010
8:33 pm
nolie-
Add me and VJ to people glad to hear things went well with your mom! All the best for her recovery!
McFann O O
December 14th, 2010
8:34 pm
Soph—
I’ll let you know when it happens.
Soph
December 14th, 2010
8:35 pm
cabalicious, how have you been?
McFann O O
December 14th, 2010
8:35 pm
Glad she’s doing better, nolie! Were they kidney stones? I know those things cann be horrible.
JasonInFL
December 14th, 2010
8:37 pm
I bet we could get KC’s attention if we still had Elvis, Escobar, Salty, and Neftali… (:
Just kidding, kind of…I, for one, would love to see Greinke in the ATL. I think he would be DOMINANT in a Braves uniform and in the NL.
nolie
December 14th, 2010
8:38 pm
gall bladder stones McF. The problem is her age (93) and that she already has a pace-maker and a leaky heart valve that they won’t operate on, so any little problem or procedure is a potential dander. Thanx
Trey
December 14th, 2010
8:40 pm
Jason, I’d like him here, too. Unfortunately, that most likely won’t happen.
The Royals want almost MLB to MLB ready players.
Efrim
December 14th, 2010
8:42 pm
My guess on the BA top ten tomorrow:
1. Teheran
2. Freeman
3. Minor
4. Delgado
5. Vizcaino
6. Kimbrel
7. Lipka
8. C. Perez
9. Beachy
10. Bethancourt
Just missed: Hoover, Pastornicky, Salcedo, M. Jones, Simmons
cabravesfan
December 14th, 2010
8:42 pm
Hi Soph!
I’ve been not bad- you? You seem to not be around a whole lot lately
Braveheart
December 14th, 2010
8:43 pm
I’m surprised to learn that Nolie’s mother is younger than Nolie.
Trey
December 14th, 2010
8:43 pm
So, how bad is Greinke’s anxiety?
McFann O O
December 14th, 2010
8:44 pm
nolie—
Oh yikes…yeah, that’s scary! I’ll say some prayers for her.
Paul Snyder
December 14th, 2010
8:44 pm
Jim – Oh definitely on Gosselin…nice looking hitter…had a very solid debut last year at Rome after the draft…should be at high A Lynchburg to start off the year…Like I said on the others of note lists…it’s all a matter of where you want to cut off…I definitely have Gosselin in my top 20 overall though…
Nolie – Not sure why you’re souring so soon on Salcedo…it appears that you are though…Best wishes to your mother…from the dialogue it looks like she had a procedure recently…i hope she continues to feel better…
Keylargo – no worries on the Greinke thing…
McFann O O
December 14th, 2010
8:45 pm
Check out these amazing photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/yahooeditorspicks/galleries/72157625550600212/
I wish they gave more descriptions under each one, but they’re still pretty dang cool.
MIBravesFan
December 14th, 2010
8:47 pm
nolie – good to hear about your mom feeling better.
keylargo
December 14th, 2010
8:47 pm
Trey – I read your comment about running in the cold. It was 48º this morning when I got on my bike. For a guy used to 70+ minimum, I froze my butt off for a couple of hours. The wind was about 25 mph straight out of the North and with 2 weeks left in the year, I feel very confident it was the lousiest ride of 2010. My blood is just very thin – and unfortunately is ain’t from alcohol.
LPad
December 14th, 2010
8:47 pm
richbrave, if you don’t believe what DOB says why do you even come on this blog?
bottom line grow up stop calling people names and get over the fact that the Braves don’t think Beachy is untouchable or near untouchable.
Sorry, but the Braves and all of baseball think Hanson, JJ, Minor, Teheran, Delgado and Vizcaino will be better pitchers. No one is kicking the door down to get Beachy even though he is available.
Paul Snyder
December 14th, 2010
8:47 pm
Efrim – We’re all pretty close on our Top 10’s…it definitely wouldn’t surprise me if BA had Lipka in there instead of Salcedo…or instead of Hoover (from Chopshops list)…
PUREFAN
December 14th, 2010
8:47 pm
Kawakami and a new locker + run support might not be a bad insurance policy.
He has come up big in a few tough match-ups. Especially if there is no help picking up his salary.
brian
December 14th, 2010
8:48 pm
a lot of people dreaming of Greinke in a Braves uniform I see after reading the posts above……Since I can’t beat you guys I might as well join you in the dreaming.
If the Braves could get Gardner from the Yankees for Lowe that would be huge (not happening but any dream scenario has the Braves unloading Lowe).
Dayton Moore is looking for a Tex type package and as unlikely as the Braves are to do that again, it would cost us Delgado, Kimbrel or Venters, and Beachy/Minor since we have no position prospects that would interest KC. Either that or Delgado, Prado, and Beachy/Minor. Greinke would be a very pricey addition.
Hudson, Hanson, Jurrjens, Greinke, Beachy/Minor
versus
Halladay, Lee, Oswalt, Hamels, 5th starter
Trey
December 14th, 2010
8:51 pm
keylargo, I hate running in this weather, but I need to run, so I just said f**** it, bought a wool “watch” cap, and some leather gloves and wore sweat pants and a hoodie and sucked it up. It’s about 27 degrees now.
Rob from SC
December 14th, 2010
8:52 pm
Heyward will win MVP this season
nolie
December 14th, 2010
8:53 pm
not really souring on him Paul, just saying that he did not do well and that might drop him off the chart. Bethancourt was disappointing too this year. Certainly too soon to write either one off , but they will both bear watching.. I do think the system is a bit weak, if not in terms of actual talent then in terms of how low the more promising prospects still are
Trey
December 14th, 2010
8:53 pm
keylargo, it just needs to warm up.
jeffrey d
December 14th, 2010
8:54 pm
I just go out and run in shorts…once you get going your body heats up right away. I hate running in sweats because once you get warm you’re screwed
JasonInFL
December 14th, 2010
8:54 pm
Rob, you are a good guy my friend, but a little too much Eggnogg?
jeffrey d
December 14th, 2010
8:54 pm
keylargo, it just needs to warm up.
It’s not even winter yet, bud
nolie
December 14th, 2010
8:56 pm
Rob thinks Hey is the second coming. always has
Trey
December 14th, 2010
8:58 pm
jeffrey, I don’t heat up in this temperature.
MiaBchBravesFan
December 14th, 2010
8:59 pm
Frankly, I don’t sweat the Lee signing. In the absence of anything resembling a bullpen, the Philly rotation will implode under the stress of having to carry the full nine innings – 162 times.
As comedian Steven Wright said, “You can’t have it all… where would you put it?”
keylargo
December 14th, 2010
8:59 pm
It’s not even winter yet, bud
Next week, huh? I’m glad you told me………I just realized I really wasn’t cold at all.
Efrim
December 14th, 2010
9:00 pm
I do think the system is a bit weak, if not in terms of actual talent then in terms of how low the more promising prospects still are
I think it’s a Top 10 system, but position prospects overall are weak and the strength is pitching, for sure.
jeffrey d
December 14th, 2010
9:00 pm
Running and getting your heart moving for a few minutes will heat anybody up.
Danga
December 14th, 2010
9:01 pm
I’m not sure one good year in a very low key city and in a sport where Cy Young candidates not located in the AL East are never going to be the lead in story.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/joe_posnanski/11/17/greinke.cy.young/index.html
That cover in the article was released in May of that season. Certainly gave him plenty of time to implode under the spotlight.
He has pitched well against against AL East teams in their stadiums. It could be argued that going to the mound every day for a team that is awful defensively and offensively is its own special kind of pressure. And we aren’t just talking about a good season here. We are talking about a great season. That season ranks as the 33rd best pitching performance ever by any pitcher in baseball history.
Soph
December 14th, 2010
9:01 pm
cab – I’m fine. Work’s kicking my butt right now but 6 more days until vacay.
Niners are still in it, eh?
jeffrey d
December 14th, 2010
9:01 pm
keylargo – I meant that the cold weather is just beginning
jeffrey d
December 14th, 2010
9:01 pm
Work’s kicking my butt right now but 6 more days until vacay
3 for me…where’re you going?
Danga
December 14th, 2010
9:01 pm
33rd best pitching performance according to adjusted ERA+.
Rob from SC
December 14th, 2010
9:02 pm
nolie
I really think he has a legit chance of winning the MVP if he hits third
nolie
December 14th, 2010
9:02 pm
yeah me too Efrim. to me it’s just that the most promising position players are low in the minors and therefore more questionable than if they were more advanced. Not complaining about it at all.
MiaBchBravesFan
December 14th, 2010
9:02 pm
Hell, Philly can have Greinke!!!
Poor guy’ll spaz and soil himself with those lovely Philly (or)phans.
Trey
December 14th, 2010
9:03 pm
“cab – I’m fine. Work’s kicking my butt right now but 6 more days until vacay.”
Nice, I am taking leave in four days.
Soph
December 14th, 2010
9:04 pm
jeffrey, visiting family in South Carolina then my nieces will be staying with me for a few days here. You?
nolie
December 14th, 2010
9:04 pm
of course you do Rob, that’s what I was saying.
might even be right.
I’m just kidding you, not saying you are wrong to think so highly of him.
cabravesfan
December 14th, 2010
9:06 pm
Soph-
Technically the Niners have not been eliminated yet, but I’m not overly hopeful…
How much time do you get off? I’m actually not sure when my “vacation” starts or ends, or if I officially get one…not that we have any plans but we shall see
MiaBchBravesFan
December 14th, 2010
9:06 pm
How about a JJ Prognosis for 2011?
I say JJ bounces back strong in the first four months, sputters in August because he was not stretched out this year, due to injuries…
September is a toss-up. I fear that JJ’s balky shoulder will bite. Pray for a ready Medlen.
cabravesfan
December 14th, 2010
9:07 pm
Soph-
That sounds nice! How old are your nieces? We had lunch yesterday with VJ’s daughter and granddaughter which was great…his granddaughter is a delight
(his daughter’s great too- didn’t want to make it sound bad! 
)
PUREFAN
December 14th, 2010
9:08 pm
Chipper; Comeback Player of the Year.
Nate rebounds
Prado back in form
Heyward and McCann All-Stars(again)
Uggla 30/100+ and 5 year deal
Freeman ROY
Hudson/Lowe/Hanson/JJ/Minor 15+ wins each
Kimbrel/Venters 45 saves combined
Fredi Manager of the Year
Fantasy baseball sure is fun
(It could happen)
jeffrey d
December 14th, 2010
9:10 pm
I’ll be in Memphis for the Liberty Bowl and to visit my Dad/sister
Soph
December 14th, 2010
9:12 pm
cab, they gave us the 23rd, 24th, 30th, and 31st off and I used my days in between so I’ll get 11 lovely days off.
My nieces are 10, 8, and the youngest is a month old but I don’t think she’ll be staying with me. I don’t do diapers!
Soph
December 14th, 2010
9:13 pm
Oh, and cab – I remember seeing a pic of VJ’s granddaughter on fb – she’s such a cutie!
Soph
December 14th, 2010
9:13 pm
jeffrey, I thought your sis was here, no? Or, is she already in college?
keylargo
December 14th, 2010
9:15 pm
Greg Maddux pitched 11 seasons for the Braves. Arguably the peak years of his career.
In 2009 Greinke had a 2.17 ERA and a 1.07 WHIP
Greg Maddux had better numbers than that exactly TWICE. In the National League. For a perennial winner with a great defense.
jeffrey d
December 14th, 2010
9:16 pm
Got 2 half sisters…1 here with our mom, 1 in Memphis (and at the U of Memphis) with our dad.
jeffrey d
December 14th, 2010
9:16 pm
Duh.
cabravesfan
December 14th, 2010
9:17 pm
Soph-
I don’t do diapers either
That sounds like fun!
Soph
December 14th, 2010
9:18 pm
Don’t steal my word. That’ll be 50 cents payable to me.
Jake W.
December 14th, 2010
9:19 pm
That cover in the article was released in May of that season. Certainly gave him plenty of time to implode under the spotlight.
Making one cover isn’t the equivalent of the type of pressure this guy can face if he goes to a contender, especially in New York. Some cities and some situations just do not work for certain players. I don’t know if Greinke falls into that category but given his past and that his anxiety will never go away, I think any team looking to acquire him as a means to help get their team to the next level has to consider those things. One Cy Young season on a bad team doesn’t exactly mirror the pressure of a pennant chase. Rightfully or wrongly, its something that has to be considered when thinking about acquiring Greinke. It may turn out to be a none issue but nobody knows for sure whether it will.
jeffrey d
December 14th, 2010
9:19 pm
Duh is your word?
Soph
December 14th, 2010
9:22 pm
That will be another 50 cents.
Yes, I claimed it last season, duh. I called it on here and everything.
nolie
December 14th, 2010
9:22 pm
he might have only beat the ERA twice but he had a better WHIP any number of times, not sure why you would even mention that part.
There is no comparison between Maddux and Greinke as to career , only in in that one isolated year
jeffrey d
December 14th, 2010
9:23 pm
I thought Robert owned “duh”
nolie
December 14th, 2010
9:24 pm
only as a personal adjective jeffrey
nolie
December 14th, 2010
9:25 pm
and he should share that with Mitchell and coach….
jeffrey d
December 14th, 2010
9:25 pm
Oh okay…guess I owe Soph $1.50 then
Carroll Rogers
December 14th, 2010
9:26 pm
Paul Snyder, I think it’s cool that you’re sign-on is Paul Snyder.
Soph
December 14th, 2010
9:26 pm
I don’t want to own duh then.
Trey
December 14th, 2010
9:27 pm
“I don’t want to own duh then.”
Too bad, you claimed it.
jeffrey d
December 14th, 2010
9:28 pm
Trey’s got you there
McFann O O
December 14th, 2010
9:30 pm
Oh yeah, “duh” is totally Soph’s. But when I used it in 2009, I only had to pay 25¢…I guess this is what inflation does…
And I did pay her, too.
Soph
December 14th, 2010
9:31 pm
Actually, I think McFann claimed it before I did last year. It’s all hers.
jeffrey d
December 14th, 2010
9:31 pm
You really paid her a quarter?
I have no intention of paying that $1.50
Soph
December 14th, 2010
9:32 pm
Yes, she did. Your invoice is due by January 14, 2011. I’ll send a friendly reminder in a few weeks.
E-Brave Fan
December 14th, 2010
9:33 pm
Carroll, sorry for the delayed response…trying to get massive tree decorated. Got 450 lights on it and I think it is finally enough! The stand comes with a plastic 3 gallon tub that I ditched and use an old 3 or 4 quart cook pot that holds plenty for our use. The plastic tub was just too big and awkward to handle. Pot works just fine. I absolutely love this stand and would recommennd it to anyone who likes live trees.
McFann O O
December 14th, 2010
9:36 pm
Soph—
I don’t think I claimed it, but I’ll take it!
Yes, she did.
Thank you for vouching for me.
jeffrey d—
Sure I did! I’m no welsher…
nolie
December 14th, 2010
9:38 pm
so now Soph gets to sit with Robert,Mitchell, coach and another select few huh? Lucky gal…
McFann O O
December 14th, 2010
9:39 pm
OK, I am SICK of my stupid page refreshing to some random part of the…page!! I refresh, read a post, start typing a response to it, and it finishes its dumb refresh and shoots up to some random spot while I’m still typing/reading…AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHG!!!
OK, I should maybe be fine now…