3:15 pm December 10, 2010, by David O'Brien
December 10th, 20103:26 pm
December 10th, 20103:27 pm
1st? Oh my!
December 10th, 20103:28 pm
I’d a beat ya soldier if I could remember my dern email address!
Sorry Blackbird, my first first!
December 10th, 20103:29 pm
Oh my indeed, your Failed Firstie is ridiculous.
December 10th, 20103:30 pm
Now that the bullpen is set, how about the Bermuda Triangle known as centerfield?
Lorenzo Cain or Jacoby Ellsbury are the missing piece to an exciting, explosive Braves’ offense for 2011
Make it happen, Frank Wren !
I still think we are one outfielder away. McOut is probably not the answer. Wishe we had a 20 hr righthanded bat in center.
Chief Nock A Homa
December 10th, 20103:37 pm
Johnny Damon is available… Why not take a stab at him if the money’s right??
We’d definitely be on the plus side at that point… And you have to know Chipper is going to be out at least a fair portion of the season, moving Prado to third…
If Chipper’s healthy, we’ve got Prad in left, Damon in center and the second coming in right… And, a great clubhouse guy in Damon to continue the trend of “mentors”… And, McClouth becomes less of a concern and is icing if he turns it back on….
December 10th, 20103:39 pm
(hands Branch and others a couple of bats to use on that dead equine)
December 10th, 20103:46 pm
Sounds good. McDowell should have them all ready by April.
Still need a speedy lead off type CF and a solid utility infielder.
December 10th, 20103:48 pm
I’m pretty sure we’re not getting another big bat in the OF guys. We got Hinkse back, who I assume will play LF when Prado has to move to 3B to cover for Chipper. Now if we can get some cash back for KK, that could be another story.
We’re going to have to hope McClouth or Jordan Schafer remember how to play baseball.
December 10th, 20103:49 pm
Damon belongs nowhere in the field.
I also doubt that Wren will relinquish his hold on our prospects and trade for a CF. Instead he will wait to see how McLouth does. If McLouth is stinking it up then he will give Schafer or Matt Young a shot. One thing I’ve learned is that Frank Wren does not trade top prospects unless they are obviously blocked like Flowers was.
December 10th, 20103:50 pm
Enough of the Jacoby Ellsbury talk. He was injured most of last season and Boston hasn’t even made him available.
December 10th, 20103:52 pm
Still no speed. All outfielders have average speed and are all average outfielders. No one to set the table for McCann, Uggla, Heyward at the top of the order.
December 10th, 20103:53 pm
I like it that Sherrill seems to be lights out against lefty batters but it would be nice if he can start getting righty batters out again so that he could go at least an inning at a time. Peter Moylan typically gets so many innings during the year that by August and September it seems that he becomes a bit less effective than he usually is the first four months of the season.
The Braves skipper really needs to be able to spread the work a bit more evenly to keep from wearing certain pitchers out by the end of the season. Mainly for the later inning guys, of course, than the long relief guys. The potential does seem to be there for another good year from the bullpen.
December 10th, 20103:54 pm
Chipper will not retire and I do not blame him with 28 million due the next 2 years. I just hope he retires aftern the 2 years are up. He has blocked the BRAVES from going after someone like a Carl Crawford.
Can we bring TED TURNER BACK !!!!!!!!!!
December 10th, 20103:58 pm
For those clamoring for an OF, Jay Bruce was one guy i liked but he just got extended. I really like Hunter Pence. If the Braves could get Hunter Pence I think our team would be serious contenders. Hunter Pence!!
Carl Crawford? 142 mill for a career .781 OPS. No thanks.
December 10th, 20103:59 pm
Stop talking Ellsbury and Cain and lets go for the jackpot. Hunter Pence!
December 10th, 20104:01 pm
DOB, was anyone shocked that the Red Sox paid so much for Crawford and Gonzalez in an economic recession ?
December 10th, 20104:03 pm
lol – I wish we could, 01HAWK, but it looks like he’s too busy now saving the planet and all of it’s inhabitants that he would no longer find saving the Braves a worthy task.
December 10th, 20104:05 pm
These blogs are giving me a headache. Wait to see if McClouth can come back – wait to see if Chipper will be healthy! Have you people not watched any games in the last two years? Two years is waiting long enough.
December 10th, 20104:15 pm
DOB, are you getting the sense they are going to with a 12 pitcher staff instead of 11 next season?
December 10th, 20104:16 pm
I agree except I believe we need 2 outfielders. Chipper may not be ready to go and even if he is, the inevitable injury means Prado moves to 3rd. The outfield is still a glaring weakness.
December 10th, 20104:19 pm
Agree with you Wes. McClouth is done and the 2000 version of Chipper ain’t showing up.
December 10th, 20104:23 pm
Fredi G. needs to ask Mr. Wren one simple question…..where the HELL is my lead-off hitter?!!!!!
December 10th, 20104:24 pm
I really like the moves thus far this off-season, but the fact remains that we are going to be 2 outfielders short in 2011.
I’m a huge Chipper fan, but have a feeling that he will probrably injure himself in spring training- most likely getting out of his car!
Chipper- For the good of the team, please go ahead and retire.
Prado will have to take over for you at third next season and we will again only have the Hey-Train to work the outfield.
December 10th, 20104:34 pm
I understand why you and others are down on McLouth, but he does not have “average” speed. He has very good speed and is a very good base stealer as is evidenced by the fact that he has successfully stolen 83 bases in 96 attempts during his career. It wasn’t his fault that Cox wouldn’t let him try to steal more often last year.
December 10th, 20104:48 pm
There seem to be a lot on here who are so darn sure that Chipper will not play, that Nate will flounder, that Schafer will bomb, and that the Braves will not do well
Tell you what. Run right down and buy a lottery ticket since you are so wonderful at predicting the future.
Or consider waiting until maybe…oh I don’t know….the actual beginning of spring training…before you bury the team you are a supposed fan of?
December 10th, 20104:51 pm
He needs to get on base in order to steel bases so yes it was his fault.
December 10th, 20104:52 pm
I think that most people on here are realist and can see that we are going to be dificient in the outfield. I wouldn’t take that as our saying that the Braces won’t do well. We are just concerned about our options in the outfield.
Chipper’s had problems staying on the field the past two years. Tell me why that should not concern us given the fact that he is another year older and coming off of reconstructive surgery???
GO DAWGS!!! LOL
December 10th, 20105:03 pm
Gonzalez is making it clear that McLouth will get every opportunity to win back the CF job. Still, with all the minor league signings, and the news that Schaefer seems to be regaining his health, Wren is indicating that if McLouth can’t hit, he won’t be on the team for long.
Fredi doesn’t have the same investment in the current roster that Bobby had, and Wren has shown he can be creative with roster moves. Take nothing for granted right now.
December 10th, 20105:12 pm
In my humble opinion I think what we need in CF is not necessarily a power guy as much as we need someone who can cover the gaps and possibly bat leadoff. Both of which we are lacking with Nate. To me he is more of a left fielder and a bottom of the order hitter if he could hit his career averages.
The one constant we always had during the pennant run was speed in CF. I believe that we will see a lot of Schafer and Young in spring training and that they will be given every opportunity to win the job.
Chipper will limp out and take our money once again. I knew that contract was a mistake when we did it. And I don’t even care about baseball. Go Falcons!!!!
December 10th, 20105:17 pm
I think Chipper has stated his willingness to defer some salary if it would help better the team.
December 10th, 20105:21 pm
December 10th, 2010
Chipper will limp out and take our money once again. I knew that contract was a mistake when we did it. And I don’t even care about baseball. Go Falcons!!!!”
If you don’t care about baseball, then shut up and get off our blog!
December 10th, 20105:24 pm
Ramblingman, good post, and I will put an Amen to it! If some of these folks obsess about everything in their lives the way that do about the Braves, they must be a real joy to live with!
December 10th, 20105:31 pm
If George Sherrill is worth 1.2 million, then surely we can get some team to pay at least 2.5 million of Kenshin K salary before Spring Training is over. Right or Wrong?
Curse of the Flat Billed Cap
December 10th, 20105:35 pm
Flat bill Sherrill. So he could actually make up to 1.4 mil as a situational lefty? Something wrong with this picture.
December 10th, 20105:36 pm
Sally, I think you can see that although some may be realistic, others are downright pessimistic, and those are the ones I was addressing.
Are there question marks? sure. Name one team without question marks. Even the Yankees and Red Sox have holes. But to listen to some of these posters, the Braves are the only team without superstars at every position including bench, and their future is to finish dead last unless we trade for approximately 15 different outfielders.
Not to mention that every thirty seconds someone posts that the Braves should just “trade KK and McLouth” like that has not occurred to anyone ever before and is just a matter of picking up the phone and sayng who wants em?
December 10th, 20105:37 pm
curse, the only thing wrong with the picture is that you might be looking at it through mud colored glasses
December 10th, 20105:52 pm
Dave, have you heard what kind of guy Sherrill is? Since he’s a lefty I am sure he’s goofy in some odd way
December 10th, 20105:54 pm
Smack: I can’t even remember the last time the Braves went with an 11-man pitching staff for any significant period.
December 10th, 20106:08 pm
What about Darnell McDonald from Red Sox as 4th OF…would be cheaper than most.
Anyone but rambling DA..please. We know his answer to everything.
Conyers Braves Fan
December 10th, 20106:15 pm
DOB: No comments this time about your report on the bullpen situation. Just an observation on how the pitching has changed in an unchanged nine inning game. Used to be a pitcher was expected to finish a game unless he just did not have his stuff and got knocked around. Next came the era of a closer, then a set-up man and closer. Now we have s situational pitcher who is brough in to pitch to one or two batters a most because he is
good only vs right or left hand batters. No complaints about the game changing as it does give more pitchers a chance to play I guess.
Matt the Brave
December 10th, 20106:23 pm
With the bullpen stocked, where are we going to put Kenshin?! ;D
For real, is the deal with the Pirates dead at this point?
mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache
December 10th, 20106:38 pm
KK, is going to be deliver the AJC paper route next year.
December 10th, 20106:39 pm
the second comming in rf yea uh huh ythe second coming of brad kominski saw trhat act walked out so willl everyone else who knows a baseball player from a watermellon patch ; lol
December 10th, 20106:40 pm
What about Jordan Schafer or Matt Young as the 4th outfielder?
December 10th, 20106:42 pm
Werther’s unoriginal – if you mean my answer for everything is to not panic and begin tossing out every name in the book, and to just see what we already have will do, those who will cost us absolutely nothing (better than cheap, no?), then yeah, I guess you do know my answer.
December 10th, 20106:44 pm
one can only hope the hey trains next destination is ny city or gwinnet co lol
December 10th, 20106:49 pm
I refuse to feed the trolls. They just breed and that’s quite ugly.
December 10th, 20107:01 pm
Just like others said..you’re a smart ass that lives on blog.
December 10th, 20107:17 pm
johnny damon makes sense but he’s too much moolahh
thunderbull56 (he of the moderater)
December 10th, 20107:32 pm
Davey,thanks.I have thoroughly enjoyed your HSL reporting.It’s obvious to all of us who have followed our team ‘lo these many years,that they have a plan.Though much sober since Ted.Yes,it’s wishful thinking Larry will resurrect into an MVP candidate,but the rest of the overall sceme seems well thought out.Spring training will tell us the rest.Also,I understand that it’s socially unacceptable to enjoy/discuss tobacco products,but don’t let you editors scare you off mentioning a good cigar from time to time.
Kennesaw Mountain Landis
December 10th, 20107:51 pm
In the olden days we didn’t need all these dad-blame specialty pitchers. If you started you stayed with it until it was over. If you were lucky you might even get to pitch a double-header.
December 10th, 20107:52 pm
If my logic and wit attract the occasional death wish or crude personal attack, so be it. That’s the price of embarrassing trolls.
December 10th, 20108:41 pm
Matt, The Pittsburg Tribune Review Reports–the hang up on Kawakami is now much Braves will pay on his contract. KK to Pirates if Braves eat all but $1 million or $2 million on the pitcher’s deal.
So it up to Wren and Braves…but I believe Wren said O’s were also interested. Maybe DOB has more news.
December 10th, 20108:43 pm
can’t even sp my handle..Poorbrave
December 10th, 20109:13 pm
DOB: I know that Merek’s stats were impressive but what is the scouting report, what is his ceiling. No one speaks of him. But his stats are impressive.
December 10th, 20109:15 pm
When you are hitting south of .200, you can’t blame Bobby Cox for McOut’s not stealing any bases. After 100 years or more of Baseball, no one has yet to steal 1st base!!
December 10th, 20109:17 pm
Maybe we can take up a collection to help Wren. If 40,000 fans will pony up $25.00 each, that will cover $1 million of KKs salary!
December 10th, 20109:19 pm
I hope Chipper Jones has the best year of his career. He’s been fantastic for the Braves. A Hall of Famer versus some of the guys lately that are getting silly money and quite likely won’t be seriously considered for the Hall.
December 10th, 20109:32 pm
Let the new batting coach, Larry Parrish, work with McLouth. You never know.
December 10th, 20109:53 pm
Why do we keep listing Schafer as an option. The guy ended the year in double A.
Mclouth will be given a chance because of the money he is owed. But we know where he ended up last year and that is the minors too.
December 10th, 201011:03 pm
I think since he’s a pitcher he’s goofy in some odd way. Pitchers are one strange bunch.
So Cal Brave
December 10th, 201011:04 pm
Go look up McLouth’s numbers for september… if he can get anywhere close to that, he’ll be a good addition to our line up, or at least good trade bait for the final stretch run.
Line up is set, rotation is set, bullpen is set, bench may still have one or two more openings to be decided during ST… let’s play ball already!
December 10th, 201011:20 pm
Just read Paste’s top 50 albums of 2010. I can’t believe Avett Brothers’ I and Love and You came out in 2009… Makes me feel old when time is passing by this quickly.
December 10th, 201011:43 pm
Ramblingman, finally someone knows something about the Braves, good to hear someone not panicking about the OF, some of these guys would give away the farm to get any OF other than give Schaffer and Young a chance and not give away any of our pitchers like Beachy (who looked great against the Phils) and Minor (the only lefty) we have to possibly start.
December 10th, 201011:44 pm
Roja: If 40,000 fans would pony up 100.00 that would buy a good outfielder. $4 mil ought to get it done. Why not ask for something worthwhile and get rid of KK at same time? $1 mil. to get rid of him and $3 mil to spend on outfielder.
December 10th, 201011:45 pm
OF is going to be fine this year. Question is will the infield with 3B and SS do as well?
December 10th, 201011:46 pm
Oh yeah still a ? at 1B until Freddy proves different. However, I believe the Braves will truly exceed our expectations this year.
December 11th, 201012:25 am
I love some of our so called “fans.” They have no faith in the players, coach’s or executives that make the decisions. We are not the Yankee’s, Red Sox or Philly so we can not spend like they do. Let everyone do there jobs and I think we will be fine. The only other thing I think we might need is maybe a 4th outfielder and a decent backup infielder other then that play ball. I think we have a shot this year cause Philly didn’t get any better this off season they actually lost a couple of players and everyone else in the division is getting there but not there yet. Before you write off your so called team look and see what we actually have first.
December 11th, 20102:06 am
Actually, Roja, first base has been stolen. It’s happened a few times that the shortstop/2nd baseman has told the runner that it was a foul ball. Thus, the runner went back to first–stealing first from second!
December 11th, 20102:16 am
I would agree the Braves are at the wait and see part of the year.If Posednik,Ellsbury (or any other speedy outfield option).Makes themselves available for the right price.But the Braves are in the position of power.Because there is no reason to make a move at this moment.
December 11th, 20102:25 am
I remember a play we used to do way back in my Dizzy Dean days. If an opposing baserunner clearly had second stolen, our catcher would throw the ball straight up above the shortstop, so it looked to the runner like a popup and he had to retreat.
December 11th, 20103:08 am
hey why not scott posednick vould get pretty cheap and good veteran.
December 11th, 20107:01 am
Retire Chipper! Enough is enough!
December 11th, 20107:55 am
Chief Nack-A-Homa…..Chief, did you ever wonder why the original Nock-A-Home has never been invited back to any Braves functions? He was fired for unsavory behavior with little children when he got them inside his leftfield tee-pee. You may consider changing you moniker after reading this. Dale Murphy would be a safer name. Just a suggestion!
December 11th, 20108:37 am
Looking forward to spring training, the new Atlanta Braves, and
John in Nashville
December 11th, 20109:55 am
When Prado plays third, Mclouth moves to left where he’s better suited imo, and Schafer or Young to center. How hard is that? Or can we we get Melky back? That worked out great.
December 11th, 201010:04 am
We’re done with moves for right now. FW will do something in ST if necessary. Lets see how people bounce back from slumps and injuries before we declare them garbage in December.
December 11th, 201010:05 am
The Chief had a drinking problem..I was working there at the time.
December 11th, 201010:25 am
Braves to sign Smoltz as vet in the pen.
December 11th, 201010:58 am
Call me crazy or maybe just tipsy off the Kool-Aid that O’Brien’s been serving, but I really believe that Jordan Schaefer is gonna have a super year for us this year. The kid no doubt has all the tools, and you don’f just forget how to play baseball. We’ve all seen athletes from every sport try to play through what they thought was a minor injury, only to further complicate things and just make things worse. And we’ve all seen those same athletes be driven by the competitive fire that burns in them try to come back from those injuries too early and do nothing more than reaggravate their injury and prolong their rehabilitation. I see this kid as a tough competitor, with that cockiness that you like (or at least I like it) in a ballplayer.
December 11th, 201011:19 am
I can’t believe we let The Melk Man go to Royals for nothing in return.
December 11th, 201011:34 am
I’d like to see the braves sign Xavier Nady he can play both corner outfield spots and 1st base plus he’s a righty. We all know Chipper can’t stay healthy so Prado will have to play some 3rd and who knows what we’ll get from Freeman.
December 11th, 201011:58 am
Schafer could be our best bet for now. The salaries for good players are out of control. The fact that players deserve good money is not doubted but 20 million a year is crazy. Wait till closer to spring taining and we may find a great option. There has been some good players signed late for bargain prices the last few years.
I just read on MLBTR that the Giants are going to offer around $1Mil to Edgar Renteria!!!
Now, Im not sure how he would feel about backing up another veteran shortstop, especially right after being named World Series MVP, but how about that SS platoon???
I know he split time with Uribe and I think Fontenot for a while, so maybe he wouldnt mind coming back to Atlanta to share some time with Alex Gonzalez…..
What are the odds this happens, in your opinion?
December 11th, 201012:11 pm
Norris, it’s been explained to you several times that Schafer has been injured and/or recovering from surgery for the last two years, so where he ended up last year is moot. You won’t see Medlen pitch this spring training. That’s no reason to begin calling for his immediate release or trade.
December 11th, 201012:20 pm
Pace….you are correct with the drinking of Chief Nock-A-Homa. Combine that with his unsavory obsession of young children and you have a dangerous situation. His obsession not his illness got him fired!
December 11th, 201012:31 pm
Paddy, I know the chief (Levi Walker Jr) had a drinking problem but have not heard of any problem with children. I know he worked at a gas station in the offseason near my home and was a nice man. I have heard over the years about disagreements over money and the drinking thing. Do you have any link to anything that backs up the accusation about children? I have to take that with a grain of salt until I see something else about it from another source.
December 11th, 201012:37 pm
a leadoff hitting,base stealing,3.00 hitter in c.f please.iwonder if nocahoma is avaiable i would feel better with levi in c.f
December 11th, 201012:40 pm
The Braves were a playoff team in 2010, and with the moves they’ve already made they will either win the NL East or be the wild card team in 2011. I agree we need a speedy CF but if McClouth can come back to where he was in Pittsburgh, we may already have one – somewhat of a BIG “if.” Nonetheless, in the post steroid era, pitching will trump hitting most times, and The Braves have one of the best staffs in the majors. So if the 2011 Braves can find a way to score about 4-5 runs per game, we will win 90+ games and make the playoffs. GO BRAVES. BTW, it’s looking like the Mets are the new cellar dweller in the East.
December 11th, 201012:46 pm
I worked with Chief for 4 are more years and tailgated after games with him but never hear that. I do know about 5 years ago he told me he had stop drinking. He was going around talking at schools etc about the harms for drugs. I pray he has………he had a good heart and thats the way I remember him.
December 11th, 20102:01 pm
ramblingman……somethings are better dropped. I should have never brought the subject up about chief. Lets just says “moniker Pace” @ 10:05 am was not the only person close to the situation with information on this issue.
December 11th, 20103:05 pm
Fine, it’s dropped, but I will withhold any credence on that subject until I have more than simply your innuendo
December 11th, 20104:49 pm
Wren continues to make the right moves. I still think we have yet to see the real Scott Proctor. What a heck of a “ARMsnel” we have going for us….. P.S.- Let’s push the buttons need to grab Mr. Cain from the Brewers. I think this guy will be something if given the opparitunity.
December 11th, 20106:59 pm
Ramblingman… There are those here that would probably say ” we can always trade KK, McClouth, and 2 rookie leaguers and get Alex Rodriguez from the Yankees to play 3rd. They seem to think that we can get something for nothing… Also .. The Braves will only win about 20 games with our current outfield… … Ummm… Ok. y’all just need to chill… And to the guy that said we let Melky go to the Royals for nothing.. That’s what free agency is, dude. Wow. unbelievable.
December 11th, 20107:10 pm
Agree Mungo. The Rays are talking to Brewers about Cain. If they deal for Cain, Upton will be moved. I rather have Cain but don’t forget we got SCHAFER.
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