10:06 am December 6, 2010, by David O'Brien
December 6th, 201011:53 pm
nope BAS, sorry. I be a dummy about Macs
Uggla’s name here can be the Hobbit. Kinda looks like a Hobbit.
December 6th, 201011:55 pm
If you want to read something that is just plain fun, a southern story, try ” Run With The Horsemen” Ferrol Sams. If you have not read it, man laugh out loud funny.
Enter your comments hereguy has a strange sense of humor BAS. One novel hid bad guy got his forearm bitten off by a barracuda so he strapped a weed eater to it. I especially love his earlier books.
Bay Area Steve
December 6th, 201011:56 pm
That’s exactly what I’m talkin’ about, Braveheart.
How is my attention-span going backwards? People talk about kids today, and instant gratification and all that. Meanwhile, if a frickin’ TV show doesn’t have me on the floor in seven minutes, I’m posting ‘ish about it on a baseball blog.
It’s becoming clear to me: I am the problem.
damn I hate it when the Enter your comments here thingy don’t go away
December 6th, 201011:58 pm
Noted, Bat. It’s on the list.
December 6th, 201011:59 pm
hell yeah, I’m finding that if I wanna watch a movie it takes me three or four half hour sittings
December 7th, 201012:00 am
You haven’t reported anything on the possible Uggla extension talks. Have you heard anything about all the potential rumors going around that the Braves are making progress?
December 7th, 201012:02 am
used to have a guy here who posted under a Hiaasen character’s name. Gov. Tyree
December 7th, 201012:06 am
Yep nolie, Gov Clinton Tyree, right.
I saw someone posting as ” Doc Ford” somewhere, I thought it was here.
Yunel's Frosted Tips
December 7th, 201012:07 am
Good to see the Jets handed their ass even if it was the Pats
Don’t remember seeing that one here Bat. Good books though
December 7th, 201012:10 am
We may be scratching the Pirates off the list of teams interested in KK soon. Just agreed to sign Correia and have a tentative agreement w/ Scott Olson.
December 7th, 201012:11 am
You haven’t reported anything on the possible Uggla extension talks. Have you heard anything about all the potential rumors going around that the Braves are making progress? — BravePack
Where are “‘all the potential rumors going around”? I saw one — Jon Heyman’s two-sentence Twitter post, which MLBTR simply repeated on its site without further elaboration.
Who else reported there’s been progress? Have you seen anything more than that two-sentence Twitter post? I’m honestly just asking to find out if you saw it somewhere else.
December 7th, 201012:14 am
So there is no Uggla extension progress?
I figured it wouldn’t get done til Spring Training anyway.
December 7th, 201012:22 am
Yeah good books, nolie and your neighbor I believe.
December 7th, 201012:30 am
As far as the LH reliever goes, would Ohman be someone they target? I know Bowman threw Mahay out earlier but seemed to be pure speculation.
December 7th, 201012:34 am
yeah White used to be a fishing guide at Sanibel Island in the 80s when I first got to that area. had a pretty good rep and was a nice guy.haven’t lived in that area in 22 years or so.
NO MORE BOBBY
December 7th, 201012:35 am
Big return for Schafer? To where…. Pink Pony?
December 7th, 201012:37 am
haha i like pink pony
December 7th, 201012:38 am
DOB……..Greetings and salutations Dave hope the weather you are having there is at least a comfort. Just curious if you get any sense now or even during the season that Bobby has any regrets about maybe leaving earlier than he wanted….and I know in his heart I suppose he never wanted to go—just mean ever any sense that maybe he would like to have stayed another year or two but for reasons personal or professional he felt compelled to go out this year as opposed to next or any other time frame than 2010
Just heard so many comments from people/players who knew him so well about him being a lifer–and not thinking he would be ready to retire from the game yet…..sorry for the long convoluted question–just didnt want it to come out wrong way
December 7th, 201012:42 am
Keith Law: The Braves are exploring an extension for Dan Uggla. This is like acquiring some 30-year-old aceto balsamico and using it in a vinaigrette. [via Twitter]
December 7th, 201012:43 am
what the heck is “aceto balsamico”?
December 7th, 201012:53 am
December 7th, 20101:06 am
Just got home after a trip to New Haven, CT to see a basketball game..driving through a whiteout is never fun especially after a loss. Eleven pages of comments to skim through too… here’s hoping I’ll somehow have some down time tomorrow at work to read them or it’ll wait for tomorrow night after another eleven pages up haha.
David, great piece on Schafer, was nice read tonight.
December 7th, 20101:45 am
Bowman said that was on Wren’s agenda, Heyman reported it, and Law. Don’t mean to bother you but was just wondering as most of us Braves fans come to you for info around this time and haven’t seen you write anything about it.
December 7th, 20101:49 am
I like how BravePack called them “potential rumors” about Uggla extension talks. What exactly are potential rumors? Would that be kinda like a thought you haven’t had yet?
December 7th, 20101:50 am
Wren says there is plenty of time to talk about an extension or contract for Uggla. I believe what he says. Why or we worrying about it now? How is every one doing?
December 7th, 20101:54 am
What boggle me is the way some people like Nate over Schafer! Schafer is 24 years old, and Nate is 29, and can’t hit…..At least schafer has potential. I would take 24 years of age over 29.
December 7th, 20101:56 am
Tell me what has done? Not a whole lot. Nate is done, and washed up!!!!
December 7th, 20101:57 am
Nate has done nothing , and you wan’t to give him another chance! Hmmmmmm……
I can see it’s getting to the point of the night where bloggers take every word literally. A potential rumor is a rumor someone writes that has the potential to become true. Any other english lessons you need Lollygagger?
December 7th, 20101:58 am
Feel free to rip me…..
December 7th, 20102:01 am
No, BravePack. That about clears it up for me. Thanks.
December 7th, 20102:02 am
December 7th, 20102:04 am
I’m with ya ward. As long as Schafer is healthy I say give hima shot. He’s better defensively and he can’t do any worse than Nate did last year offensively. I personally think the real Schafer is the one we saw in Philadelphia the first couple games 2 years ago.
December 7th, 20102:05 am
I don’t care what kind of money Nate makes! He shouldn’t be rewarded Center field for playing bad…..
I’m a big fan of the ole wide eyes smiley face post. Thanks for posting that buddy.
December 7th, 20102:07 am
Glad to have some one on board…..
December 7th, 20102:09 am
We should try, and get Bill Hall, and then give Matt Young a chance too. Play the youngsters…………
December 7th, 20102:10 am
If we don’t have to trade much or sign much. We should be fine….
December 7th, 20102:11 am
BravePack sounds like he needs a six pack. Relax, I’m just messin’ with ya man. I know exactly what you meant by potential rumors- just poking a little fun. I can be a smarta** sometimes. No harm. Soooo- serious question: you think Schafer has potential to overtake McLouth in spring? I personally am pulling for Schafer, but I think McLouth’s salary is gonna be Schafer’s biggest challenge.
December 7th, 20102:13 am
If you say someone is figuratively being raped, it sort of takes away the impact.
December 7th, 20102:17 am
Yeah it’s late so a drink could help…I just want the best option out there in CF and from what I saw out of Nate last year I was dissappointed. I thought he would have a good year offensively and then I was even more disappointed in his defense and him refusing to at least try and throw runners out. I hate to base it on spring results but if Nate has another bad spring and Schafer shows he’s healthy and hits well I say give him a shot. The guy obviously works hard and wants to prove he belongs in the Show which could be a blessing for the Braves this season if no moves are made for CF.
December 7th, 20102:22 am
I personally never wanna think about Rex Ryan and rape at the same time. Yikes.
December 7th, 20102:23 am
I just wish Wren would let Nate go… I’m tired of hearing about him.
Bowman said that was on Wren’s agenda, Heyman reported it, and Law. — BravePack
Heyman had a two-sentence Twitter comment this afternoon, and the entirety of Law’s comment on Uggla was also two sentences on Twitter: “The Braves are exploring an extension for Dan Uggla. This is like acquiring some 30-year-old aceto balsamico and using it in a vinaigrette.”
Law was only using the subject to set up a one-liner.
BravePack, it’s been on Wren’s agenda since the day they traded for Uggla. An extension could come this week, next week, spring training, or midseason. I don’t know how much progress has been made, but Uggla and Wren have both made it clear that they want to get something worked out.
December 7th, 20102:28 am
I know it won’t make me very popular- but I actually became a bigger fan of Schafer’s when he did get suspeded 50 games for not ratting out his friends/teammates in that HGH situation. I’ve said it earlier, and I’ll repeat: It showed me that he’s loyal, and he’s got his teammates backs. I want people like that in my clubhouse. Plus, from DOB’s article, it sounds like he’s hungry to get back and prove people wrong. Playing with a chip on his shoulder, if you will- I like guys like that because you know they’re gonna put it all out there on the field. Yes, he hid an injury and hurt himself and the team… but it was because he wanted to play and carry his team badly. Count me in.
December 7th, 20102:31 am
Braves are interested in Ron Mahay left hander.
December 7th, 20102:32 am
We should try, and get Bill Hall, and then give Matt Young a chance too. Play the youngsters… — Ward
Play what youngsters, and why?
Young, by the way, isn’t very young. He’s 27, only 12 months younger than McLouth. Schafer is, in fact, young — four years younger than Young (Matt).
December 7th, 20102:34 am
Oh man May hay?
seriously? Nate’s getting paid over $7 million dollars, man. And Wren should just eat that money and kick him out the door because you don’t want to talk about him anymore? I’m not trying to be rude to ya… but Nate’s gonna not only get another chance at CF, he’s gonna get a 2nd chance and 3rd chance again after that because of that price tag. Unless he’s injured- McLouth is your everyday CF all next season.
December 7th, 20102:36 am
O.k. I over expressed it! Anybody is better than Mclouth! It makes me wan’t to puke to even see Mclouth bat…
December 7th, 20102:38 am
I know what your saying. Its just painful to see Mclouth come up to bat or in the out field….
December 7th, 20102:39 am
since I see you’re on now… you care to put a percentage on the odds of Diory Hernandez being the b-u IF? If you don’t think Diory is the answer- You think the Braves would have any interest in guys like Jeff Keppinger or Brendan Ryan, or are they looking for slightly cheaper options?
December 7th, 20102:41 am
wait a minute ward… McLouth takes his at bats from the OF? Dang, no wonder he misses so many pitches! (Sorry, I’m gonna call smarta** on myself there. I just couldn’t help it.) You know I’m kidding you, bro. You’re a fun dude- I’ll give you that all day.
December 7th, 20102:42 am
I’ll pass on Mahay, by the way. Not that anyone asked…
December 7th, 20102:44 am
Any body see Monday Night Football.Wow….. Rex got a good old fashion but whipping…….Very …very funny….
December 7th, 20102:45 am
It’s cool … It’s all cool….
December 7th, 20102:46 am
At last some one shut Rex up! I’m enjoying this one……..
December 7th, 20102:53 am
I actually enjoy Rex Ryan- I just don’t care for the Jets. Rex is a funny guy- a lot like his father and in same mold as the Jim Mora and Dennis Greens… very entertaining at press conferences. But Ryan is more in a joking way- Mora and Green would just have complete mental meltdowns. The best of all-time has got to be that dude from Oklahoma State a few seasons ago. “I’m a man. I’m 40. Come after me!” Protecting his QB and immortalizing himself in coach meltdowns history. Good stuff.
December 7th, 20102:59 am
I guess you could say so! Wren is waiting on kk,before he does any thing else.Pirates were interested in kk, but I don’t know right now.Other teams are interersted too.Wren won’t mention who….
December 7th, 20103:35 am
Anybody read the nice article on Dale Murphy? DOB: Can you write an artilce for Dale Murphy? He needs all the support to get into the hall Of Fame……..
December 7th, 20103:40 am
Guy’s: Have a good nite! Talk tomorrow, and peace………
December 7th, 20104:13 am
Pearl Harbor-69 years ago Today
December 7th, 20104:23 am
Every one lets all remember Pearl Harbor.Take the time to thank the service men, and women.They fought for us,and we should not forget them! God….. Bless…. you…..and many, many thanks….I’m speaking from my heart! Thank you all…… and God..Speed……Nite …Every one…….
December 7th, 20104:27 am
DOB– If you’re up, it’s twenty-five degrees in Atlanta; makes one want to look up a bowl of shrimp-corn chowder, some collard greens, and a couple of fish tacos at T de Sol.
Also, I’m going to follow your lead and get the Loretta Lynn tribute CD today and I appreciate the heads up. Remember, Jack White produced her last CD and even sang on a cut or two.
Speaking of White, what did you think of “Cold Mountain”; the book and movie?
And reading the Washington Post articles concerning the Kennedy Center honors made me a Merle fan all over again.
December 7th, 20104:28 am
‘Nite ward…er…mornin’ ward
December 7th, 20104:44 am
David O’Brien is a “dangerous” man with a good story and a laptop. Than you, DOB.
December 7th, 20105:08 am
The Jason Werth dollars remind me of a flip side of free agent negotiations back in 1992, when Greg Maddux left 26 million dollars on the table and signed with the Braves instead of the Yankees.
Of course, Hall Of Fame ballots are out and I believe the voters have until December 31st to mail ‘em in. Dale Murphy’s time for eligibility is running out until he’s left to be considered by the Veteran’s Committee, Bert Byleven and Roberto Alomar have been inching closer and closer and I believe both will be enshrined in 2011. Palmeiro won’t make it this year; and isn’t that something with his 3,000 hits an 500 homeruns. If this were 1985, folks would be casting his bronze plaque to hang in Cooperstown and the steroids make his 3000 and 500 appear “soft”; plus the fact he never led the league in batting average, HR’s, or RBI. Tim Raines is on te ballot and the knock against him seems to be that he simply hung around long enough to build some stats. However, he certainly was a force in his early Expo years and was probably the top leadoff hitter in the early 80’s.
“When it’s sleepytime down south”
‘Nite/ mornin’ folks.
December 7th, 20105:21 am
Does the Correia signing take the Pirates out of the running for KK?
December 7th, 20106:12 am
I can’t imagine that even the Pirates would bite on Kawa-crummy. And the Braves would have to eat $5 million to “sweeten” the deal. Oh, well, saving $1.5 million is a savings, after all.
December 7th, 20106:52 am
Are you doing p.r. for Jordan Schafer, DOB? Let’s see him actually do something before we get overly optimistic about him helping the Braves.
Best-case scenerio, he could help out post-All Star break after geting some ABs at Double A or Triple A.
December 7th, 20107:35 am
I’ve noted this before, but I still enjoy it…
Beginning on July 1, 2011, the Mets will pay former player Bobby Bonilla $1.19 million a year for 25 years as part of a buyout of the $5.9 million the team owed him in 2000. – Wall Street Journal, July 1, 2010
He last played for the Mets in 1996. He will be on the Mets payroll until 2035. Bobby Bo will be 72
Maybe he can develop a knuckler: The Mets will be paying Brett Saberhagen $250,000/Yr. until 2029. 65
December 7th, 20108:13 am
Playoffs!!!!… What did you read that suggests DOB was “overly optimistic” about Schafer? DOB was reporting on what the Wren and others had to say about Schafer. If that comes across as “overly optimistic,” those are the quotes from the sources.
December 7th, 20108:17 am
Couch Tater… Pretty amazin’ that the Mets are paying Bonilla and Saberhagen until they’re old men. You think with all the dough the mets have to burn, they’d find the best baseball minds to run the operation. Instead, they’re run by second-raters. That’s why the Mets are amazin’.
December 7th, 20108:29 am
Are the Braves still paying Bruce Sutter a million or something a year for that contract from 25 years ago?
December 7th, 20108:34 am
Keith Law: The Braves are exploring an extension for Dan Uggla. This is like acquiring some 30-year-old aceto balsamico and using it in a vinaigrette. [via Twitter]
I can’t disagree with Law here. I just think giving 30 year olds who are already below average defensively 4-5 year deals is a bad contract waiting to happen. And Uggla plays second base, where of course, defense is pretty damn important. Wren did his job by getting Uggla for next to nothing, I’m not sure it’d be wise to offer him an extension with so many big contracts being handed out this offseason. Oh well, it could be A LOT worse. Uggla can still rake, and will probably continue to rake for the majority of whatever extension is worked out. I just hope a position switch is in his future.
I also think there is something to the fact that Wren has a lot potential holes to fill next offseason. Uggla, McLouth, Gonzalez, Linebrink and perhaps even Jones if he opts for retirement, could of been guys that he had to replace. So my guess is that could be apart of his thinking as well.
When it comes down to it, extensions like the one they are working on for Uggla don’t get me as mad as trading large prospect packages for players with little contractual control. That grinds my gears…..
braveheart—i think it was 100,000 a year for 20 years…..i think hrabosky got a similar deal
December 7th, 20108:35 am
Now that Iwamura’s deal with the A’s fell through, maybe Oakland will have more interest in getting Kenshin. To me, Kawakami for 1-2 million is a pretty solid trade for a lot of teams with very little pitching. Gotta imagine something can get done.
December 7th, 20108:40 am
Actually Efrim, 4-5 years isn’t that bad in my mind, particularly when there are 7-10 year deals being handed out to players in their 30’s. Werth’s 7 years will keep him under contract through 38 years old. Cliff Lee looking for the same which will keep him through 38. Now Pujols is looking for a 10 year extension at the end of which he’ll be 41. The ARod extension last year put him under contract through age 42.
There’s going to be a harsh reality setting in on these owners. The contracts being negotiated right now are based on the fact that guys were excelling well into their late 30’s and early 40’s up until a few years ago. Now that the new drug policies are in place, we’ve already seen power numbers go down, and my hunch is the number of guys producing big numbers at 38 will go down as well. The market needs a correction.
December 7th, 20108:41 am
I think a 4 year deal would be good for Uggla w/ maybe a 5th year as a vesting option if he can remain on the field.
December 7th, 20108:43 am
I’d almost be willing to bet that the team willing to give Lee 7 years is the Nats.
December 7th, 20108:45 am
Actually Efrim, 4-5 years isn’t that bad in my mind, particularly when there are 7-10 year deals being handed out to players in their 30’s
Exactly why Uggla’s price tag probably went up…..
And just because everyone is doing it, doesn’t mean the Braves have to follow suit.
December 7th, 20108:46 am
sounds like we might have anothe good outfielder!!! give him a chance ….. what is wrong with lf?? fred in sc. l go braves!!!
semiballcoach, yeah, i never knew the particulars. just know it’s been brought up on here before
The Yankees are just waiting for a team to go that 7th year with Lee, then they’ll do the same with more money. That’s how the machine works.
December 7th, 20108:50 am
I’m not going to get overly excited on Schafer yet. But it would be nice for him to show up in ST and have an ‘09 type spring. I still believe he will be our CF in 2012 if not by sometime this year.
December 7th, 20108:51 am
Efrim, I don’t see how a 4-5 year deal for a 30 year old isn’t drastically different than a 7 year deal to a 31 year old. Not sure I understand your comment about the Braves following suit. If they followed suit, they’d go 6-7 years with Uggla. I think 4-5 is completely reasonable and covers what should be mostly prime years for a ML hitter.
to all vets onlilne tks for your service!!!!! and to all now serving too……
December 7th, 20108:53 am
And Uggla’s price tag is up because he’s averaged 30 homers and 90 RBI for 5 seasons. If his price tag was down, that would be because he was coming off a down and we’d all be complaining about something different, like trading for a guy coming off a down year.
December 7th, 20109:06 am
Not sure I understand all the Lorenzo Cain stuff. I try to follow prospects pretty closely, and I never heard of the guy before yesterday. And looking at his stats, he made it to AAA at the end of 2008, then struggled through A-AA in 2009 before doing well again in 2010. Don’t know what the deal was, maybe he was hurt in 2009. But I wouldn’t give up a single valuable piece for him.
December 7th, 20109:07 am
Bobby Cox had to leave late last night for an illness in the family, so he won’t be at today’s press conference for the retired managers. Piniella, Torre, Gaston are going to be there.
December 7th, 20109:09 am
You want to see the worst baseball contract I know of? How’d you like to be tethered to this contract owed to a 255 pound, 31 year old guy who isn’t getting better any more?
Ryan Howard 1b
3 years/$54M (2009-11)
5 years/$125M (2012-16), plus 2017 option
* 5 years/$125M (2012-16), plus 2017 option
o signed extension with Philadelphia 4/26/10
o 12:$20M, 13:$20M, 14:$25M, 15:$25M, 16:$25M, 17:$23M club option ($10M buyout)
o limited no-trade clause
Steve from OH
December 7th, 20109:26 am
Keith Law: The Braves are exploring an extension for Dan Uggla. This is like acquiring some 30-year-old aceto balsamico and using it in a vinaigrette.
You know, I generally like Keith Law, but talk like that has no place on a baseball blog. Or anywhere, really.
December 7th, 20109:27 am
And yeah, 4 years for Uggla. I’d have a tough time going 5.
December 7th, 20109:29 am
would love to see what players the Braves have to pay money to in the future that are no longer with the team..DOB ????
December 7th, 20109:31 am
DOB, we have heard two other tweets from heyman about uggla. one said “looks like uggla did the right thing to turn down $48mil for 4 years” which insinuates the braves may be paying him more for longer, and then we got another one that said progress was being made, and that uggla loves freddi.
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