7:27 pm December 5, 2010, by David O'Brien
December 6th, 20109:49 am
Braveshoo, that is actually not a bad proposal. It’s realistic to talk about trading JJ. I think that is a stealth move that FW has been holding back if it could net us a better player. He is the most likely player of any worth to go from the current team, IMO.
Would the Yankees do it? Not sure, but they are the most likely to accept that type of deal. It’s certainly a lot closer to reality than most of the lopsided suggestions from these forums.
I’ve been thinking JJ could be gone by spring for some weeks now. This would be a good return for his talent.
December 6th, 20109:52 am
“With the signing of Jason Werth by the Nats, does this increase the probability that the Nats would be willing to deal Josh Willingham? Who would be the best fit for the Braves: J WIllingham, J Ellsbury or Bill Hall?”
I would rather see Ellsbury, because Willingham is a LF and we’ll have Prado there, despite all the posters who are trying to bury Chipper or ship him off to an old folks home. Hall is more suited to a reserve role, IMO.
December 6th, 20109:53 am
td523…Matt Young is years ahead of Schafer..unless we play the good ole boy rule.
Bill Hall would fill alot of holes for Fredi. and 18+ homers.
Great Observation by breveshoo.
Yankees need to move past the Jeter deal and with Boston securing AG from Padres there is much more competitive division.
I too want Gardner in CF. If it takes JJ and McClouth (with Braves eating one half of the salary) and throw in KK (with braves eating one half of the salary) then do it.
CF and speed is too important.
December 6th, 20109:57 am
Yankees will not take KK and Nate. What the hell would the do with them?
December 6th, 20109:58 am
The Yanks are desperate enough for pitching, we should not have to eat any of McOuts salary in that deal. I have been suggesting a JJ/McOut bundle for weeks and this is a nice fit. KK will have to go in a separate deal.
December 6th, 201010:29 am
I saw Bobby Cox and Fredi Gonzalez at the airport Sunday afternoon. It looks like they missed all the fireworks!
December 6th, 201010:48 am
Can we talk more about Scott Linebrink?? I understand the Braves also received $3.5 million from the White Sox to help offset his $5.5 million contract. But that is $2 million you could’ve spent on Diaz or maybe someone with more than 7 career saves or an ERA under 4.
December 6th, 201010:55 am
On topic, tweaking the bench necessitated keeping Diaz. It’s a train wreck without him.
December 6th, 201010:56 am
hAL – you really think Heyward is a hole in RF? I find it remarkable that there are some fans out there that will complain about a 21yr old putting up a .898OPS with great defense making $400K
December 6th, 201011:03 am
Linebrink was one of the best setup men in MLB when he played in SD. The Braves drooled over him at the time but did not match the huge contract he got which is now being shown to be foolhardy. It’s a classic case of buy low sell high. Linebrink is a big talent who could very well be a steal a la Javier Vasquez. Plus, he fills the veteran presence that Wren wanted in the pen. The Braves were going to spend that much or close to it to get anybody decent in a setup role, so it’s hardly wasted money.
As for Diaz, I have been one of his most ardent supporters for five years. I don’t think anyone outside his family wanted him to remain with the Braves more than I did. The door is not completely shut on his returning, but things would have to fall into place for him to be considered. All of that being said, I wish Matt the best of luck no matter where he goes (except on days he’s facing the Braves of course). I just don’t see them resigning him, sadly. All Matt ever did was hit like a beast and play a serviceable outfield, be available for any reporter looking for a quote, sign autographs, and generally bring credit to the Atlanta team.
December 6th, 201011:14 am
Why is everyone saying that I’m going to miss at least half of this season? I’ve been working really hard to be ready for spring training and I’m very excited about what we have going into the year. Plus I have a lot of money owed to me so I need to see that I at least play in a few games. Go Braves!!
December 6th, 201011:17 am
Signing kk was a joke.
The Braves gave him all that money and never even saw him pitch.
Not even a Braves scout saw him live.
And yet they pay him an exhorbitant amount and won’t give Diaz 2.5.
December 6th, 201011:21 am
To borrow a quote from Meatloaf….”you took the words right out of my mouth”. But before anybody asks there was no kissing going on.
On a hot summer night.
Would you offer your 7yr/126M to the Werth with the red roses?
ok I will stop now
December 6th, 201011:36 am
The Braves will be greatly improved and they do have at least 4 guys who could hit 20 or more hr and maybe more. Uggla 25-30, Heyward 20-25, McCann 20-25, Freeman at least 20, Alex Gonzalez could hit 20, Prado is capable of hitting close to 20. If Chipper can get back healthy and I’m confident he will then these other guys will take pressure off him. He could still hit 15-20 and we know he will play solid defense. We will have no holes on defense in the infield now. Freeman will will be a vacuum cleaner at 1st. I’m as excited as I’ve been in years in ATL. Last year was the start of something special. If we had UGGLA at 2nd in the playoffs than you don’t see the Giants win it all.
December 6th, 201011:47 am
i dont see why the braves dont trade kk to the royals? its seems like every year the braves and royals do a trade since the royals gm used to work for the braves and likes the braves players
December 6th, 201011:49 am
Do not count on Freeman or Gonzo to hit 20 dingers. I would take it but put money on McOut hitting 20 before either of those guys. He may bat a buck 80 and strike out 150 times but will accidently hit 20 if he gets enough ABs. And no I am not suddenly a McOut fan. Just saying I do not expect FF or Gonzo to hit 20 taters.
December 6th, 201012:21 pm
Haha. The Royals owe us a favor after we took Ankiel & Farnsworth off their hands. But they may think we owe them for sticking them with Chavez. However, considering KC also got 2 good young players in that deal plus salary relief I say KC owes us.
December 6th, 20101:13 pm
All this KK trade talk is great but unrealistic when you look at what he’s owed along with his record. Putting him in a trade deal is like trading a low value or rated AA player who’s owed way to much money. He has really no trade value to any team what so ever. Maybe you could trade him for a higher ranked A player somewhere who need’s more years to develop and then the Braves would still have to pay most of KK’s salary. Hate to say it but the Brave might as well hold on to him this year and just hope for the best unless some idiot GM can take him and pay his salary, which will never work. Remember Frank Wren is our GM and no one else does business like he does.
December 6th, 20101:26 pm
I want you, I need you, but there ain’t no way I’m ever gonna pay you
But don’t feel sad…two out of three ain’t bad
Will you pay me forever?
Well, let me sleep on it.
Will you pay me forever?
Let me sleep on it.
I couldn’t take it any longer, Lord I went crazy
And the feeling came upon me like a tidal wave
Started swearing on my Visa and my Mastercard
That I would pay you till the end of time
Don’t get me started on Meat Loaf! LOL
December 6th, 20101:31 pm
Why don’t anyone talk about how good this guy was despite his double-digit losses. Got hurt a lot by run support over the past couple of years and matched up fine against aces in some key games!
Can’t trade dirt water! Make him sound good for once, O’Brien! You keep dogging him like you want him to be untradeable!
December 6th, 20102:00 pm
Within 3 years, the Nats will be praying for the end of time to hurry up and arrive!
December 6th, 20102:34 pm
@ramblingman: before we go any further, i wanna know right now…will we keep him foreverrrrr??? LOL
your 1:26 post was funny as hell.
December 6th, 20105:21 pm
Greinke sounds great, except he’s making $13.5 million a year in 2011 and 2012 before becoming a free agent. I’d rather have Jurrjens who is coming off an injury and still has good stuff. Even though Jurrjens is entering arbitration, I don’t see him making more that $4 million. Jurrjens at $3.5 million > Greinke at $13.5 million.
December 6th, 20105:23 pm
Also, I believe its realistic to assume Freeman will hit more like 15 homers and the same with Gonzalez and Chipper. I would expect Prado to hit north of 17 homers this year as he’s done nothing but improve and improve over the years.
December 6th, 20105:29 pm
mushcreek, I would say either Ellsbury or Hall, because while Willingham would be great, he plays a corner outfield spot while we already have Prado and Heyward set. Hall is way too expensive, so Ellsbury would be the ideal choice. It would take a bit for the Red Sox to trade him, although if Boston signs Carl Crawford, Ellsbury becomes expendable.
December 6th, 20107:23 pm
jacoby ellsbury or brian garner will be an upgrade, specially if we can trade nate to any team without have to pay him his next season salary, but I think that we cannot trade jj…just yet…teaheran wont be readdy to step up the next season…I am from dominican republic, we are in our winter baseball tournament, j.costanza is smocking over here, diory hernandez is courrently out of his team because of his lack of offense, our GM have to take a look over here … to see a lot of playes that we can use for the next season…emilio bonifacio is an extremely fast player who can play all outfield position and 2nd base as well… hi is a very good option coming from the bench…
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