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Murph

November 30th, 2010
1:38 pm

The Yankee guy is coach, not a kid. Coach hasn’t been a kid since the 1920’s.

jeffrey d

November 30th, 2010
1:39 pm

I’m sure there are some dumb Braves fans going on other blogs and doing the same thing

McFann O O

November 30th, 2010
1:40 pm

Hey, Ease! How’s it goin’? I got something for ya:

“But Seriously, Forks…”

P-Town Brave ©

November 30th, 2010
1:43 pm

So…

Any further word on whether Uggla is taking Chipper up on changing to a single digit #?

Ease™ in Sandy Springs

November 30th, 2010
1:44 pm

:lol: McFann!

Just adds fun to the grammaticaness of the conversation!

Mozelle's

November 30th, 2010
1:45 pm

It makes me glad when DOB burns dumb commentators.

Doug

November 30th, 2010
1:46 pm

Murph: Actually not correct, i.e. A “spree” refers to a period of “uncontrolled self indulgence”. “Spees” has often been used to refer to multiple occurances of the same or similar events. However there is simply no word “imbread” nor is it appropriate to use a noun to “describe” an adjective…thus there was no self flagellation that occured especially in the groin area.

unbelievable

November 30th, 2010
1:47 pm

I dont see how you can compare what Tulo just received to what Uggla will get. Tulo is probably the best defensive SS in baseball. He’s also 26 and has put up an .930 OPS or higher the last two years. A top 5 offensive player and one of the best defensive players is a lethal combo.

Uggla is 4 years older. While he is a great offensive bat, he’s never reached an OPS higher than .877 and he’s brutal in the field. Im glad to have him, but he’s not at Tulo’s level

dpelfrey

November 30th, 2010
1:48 pm

jeffrey d…”I’m sure there are some dumb Braves fans going on other blogs and doing the same thing”

No, that phenomenon is isolated to northeast sports fans. The only exception is dumbass Cowboy fans.

timthebrave

November 30th, 2010
1:51 pm

unbelievable, I agree with your point about Tulo’s fielding but the high OPS might have something to do with playing in Denver

P'cola Brave

November 30th, 2010
1:53 pm

Hinske sure is buying his time. Can’t wait for Thursday so we know who all will be FA and who is retained. Hopefully the hot stove picks up after that. Tired of this quiet offseason outside of the Jeter saga.

Murph

November 30th, 2010
1:55 pm

Murph: Actually not correct, i.e. A “spree” refers to a period of “uncontrolled self indulgence”. “Spees” has often been used to refer to multiple occurances of the same or similar events.

Show me where this has been used outside of this blog and I will apologize. I’ve never heard or seen the word “spee” used. It doesn’t appear in the dictionary either.

Murph

November 30th, 2010
1:58 pm

Urban Dictionary has a definition for “spee”, but I don’t think that’s what you were referring to when you used it.

jeffrey d

November 30th, 2010
2:02 pm

PL was a Cowboys fan

Ease™ in Sandy Springs

November 30th, 2010
2:06 pm

jeffrey – remember when he called that game? The exact score?

McFann O O

November 30th, 2010
2:07 pm

Ease

:P Now I’m just trying to find the one that inspired my nickname for Shane Victorino, “The Reaper”.

grammaticaness

:lol: I can’t even figger out how to pronounce that one!

unbelievable

November 30th, 2010
2:08 pm

timthebrave – I understand your point on his OPS in denver. He’s still putting up very solid numbers on the road. His splits arent off the charts like Carlos Gonzalez. Either way, he’s a better overall player than Uggla and will get paid alot more for it.

jeffrey d

November 30th, 2010
2:09 pm

jeffrey – remember when he called that game? The exact score?

….no. But then again, I don’t remember CB calling the Uggla trade either

beekay

November 30th, 2010
2:11 pm

DOB
Saw the movie Sugar on HBO..have you seen this? Must have been rough for guys like Yunel and others that couldn’t speak English adapting to life in the states, especially the ones that were sent out to the midwest where the Spanish language is almost never used. If you haven’t seen it, it’s worth checking out

jeffrey d

November 30th, 2010
2:12 pm

Must have been rough for guys like Yunel and others that couldn’t speak English adapting to life in the states

Hey, let’s talk about Yunel some more!

nyyankees are the best

November 30th, 2010
2:13 pm

Buckeye Brave

who said i was a fan of any college in ny see your ingnorant and how many national championships have osu won that they have been in just like the rest just plain stupid

Ease™ in Sandy Springs

November 30th, 2010
2:14 pm

jeffrey – It was like Cowgirls/Eagles or Giants…And they won, he called the score and spent weeks shouting for props and calling people MOR****…Eh, guess it was just a typically crime shame PL day.

McFann – I know we talked about Blue Oyster Cult and “Don’t Fear the Reaper”, but maybe that was because we were playing the Phils, and you were getting upset (enraged).

grammatica ness

Ease™ in Sandy Springs

November 30th, 2010
2:16 pm

Hey, let’s talk about Yunel some more!

Ok…Braves used to have a SS named Yunel…but no more.

Mitchie-san

November 30th, 2010
2:18 pm

I remeber PL calling that score. Just when you thought he couldnt get more annoying….

nyyankees are the best

November 30th, 2010
2:19 pm

so how are yall doing today sure is nice and rainy here in the wonderful state of georgia

timthebrave

November 30th, 2010
2:20 pm

unbelievable, I agree that he is a really good player…Not sure I would have paid him and extension for 7 years for $134 million when he was already signed for 3 or 4 more years

GTSteve

November 30th, 2010
2:21 pm

grammatica ness

Wasn’t he a kicker

Ease™ in Sandy Springs

November 30th, 2010
2:21 pm

a ward sighting?

BravePack

November 30th, 2010
2:22 pm

I’d like to see what fellow bloggers think are the chances Uggla gets an extension with the Braves before the season? Seeing as Wren only has maybe a bullpen arm and 1 or 2 bench players to sign or re-sign I think it should be a priority for him to get this done. He could be the veteran leadership the young Braves need when Chipper is gone. Not to mention the power bat we needed from the right side for how many years now.

Tomas

November 30th, 2010
2:22 pm

I’d like Diaz back for 2 million. And I hope he works on his defense so he can play some CF. But he really needs to work on defense.

nyyankees are the best

November 30th, 2010
2:23 pm

timthebrave

you just upset that the braves will never have they money to give a player a 100 million dollar contract

Bat Masterson

November 30th, 2010
2:23 pm

Ok…Braves used to have a SS named Yunel…but no more. _ Ease

Any idea why they traded him?

nyyankees are the best

November 30th, 2010
2:24 pm

BravePack

not a chance in he** he will be in pin stripes next year sorry

P'cola Brave

November 30th, 2010
2:26 pm

Sign Hinske, Cristian Guzman, and Jon Rauch and call it an offseason

beekay

November 30th, 2010
2:26 pm

ok…we can use Omar instead of Yunel or even Prado if Yuni is off limits….makes me look at these young kids in a different way…… many can’t speak English and are under incredible amounts of pressure from home to make it to the show. The family rely on these kids to send home money and get them out of the slums. 18 years old with almost no education and no English language living with some family in the middle of farm land, homesick etc….lots of pressure on a young man

Ease™ in Sandy Springs

November 30th, 2010
2:27 pm

Any idea why they traded him?

Traded? No, had no idea he was traded…Was he any good? Yunel…sounds Cuban.

nyyankees are the best

November 30th, 2010
2:27 pm

why does the braves always have to choose from the trash nobody else wants could someone please answer that

ward

November 30th, 2010
2:27 pm

Hello every one! Nate is not a lead off hitter to slow, and doesn’t have a good eye at the plate. Did Pittsburge put Nate in the lead off? Putting Nate in the lead off is another disaster waiting to happen.

P'cola Brave

November 30th, 2010
2:29 pm

Yankee Dumba$$

Because we can’t buy the league like the Yanks. Sad thing is, ya’ll have a team full of allstars and overpayed juice heads and made it as far as the Braves. So can you tell me why that is?

P'cola Brave

November 30th, 2010
2:31 pm

Ward

Nate actually batted leadoff a lot. He has more at bats at leadoff than any other spot. Here is his career line at leadoff.

.255/ .342/ .449/ .791

Besides the average he has really good numbers there. He may not be the worst leadoff assuming he could return to that line which is around his career norm.

Churchy

November 30th, 2010
2:31 pm

As I recall, Nate hit some lead off when on the Pirates. At that point, it was a dilemna for them as he was one of their better bats. They ended up hitting him some in the middle of the lineup as well.

jeffrey d

November 30th, 2010
2:31 pm

ward – Nate isn’t super fast, but he’s not slow either. He’s also good for 60-70 walks a year if he’s full time

ward

November 30th, 2010
2:33 pm

If we don’t make it to the post season? It is because Wren didn’t go out, and get a lead off man with speed. Speed never goes into a slump.

dpelfrey

November 30th, 2010
2:33 pm

I think Tulo is going to be one of the best players in baseball for the next decade, but I wouldn’t offer anyone a 10-year contract. If you go back and look at the longest and biggest contracts in recent memory.

Jason Giambi – 7/120
Carlos Beltran – 7/119
Ken Griffey – 9/117
Mike Hampton – 8/121
Vernon Wells – 7/126
Barry Zito – 7/126
Alfonso Soriano – 8/136
Todd Helton – 8/117
Miguel Cabrera – 8/152
Manny Ramirez – 8/160
CC Sabathia – 7/161
Mark Teixeira – 8/180
Derek Jeter – 10/189
Alex Rodriguez – 10/275

Excluding the Yankee contracts, since they don’t exist in the real world, who can afford to pay $20 million per year for just about anybody, the only contracts out of those that probably aren’t regrettable were Manny and Helton. And even those deals extended so far that the last few years weren’t up to their previous production. And I think the Rockies end up paying Helton through 2024 or something ridiculous like that.

jeffrey d

November 30th, 2010
2:33 pm

Speed never goes into a slump.

But Gregor Blanco does

P'cola Brave

November 30th, 2010
2:33 pm

Nate has struggled and swings at some terrible pitches but hes overall a patient hitter. His career OBP is nearly 80 pts higher than his BA. Even with a terrible avg this year his OBP was just under .300. The guy takes his walks. If he can return even to the career norm he will be a valuable assett.

DAP

November 30th, 2010
2:34 pm

i dont think giving tulowitski a 10 year contract is that bad of an idea. dude is going to compete for MVPs and be the face of that franchise, and they dont have to worry about him running off to new york or boston in his prime.

obvioulsy, there is alot of risk involved, but i dont think that was a bad idea. they did the same thing with helton, though they signed him long-term at a little bit of an older age…i think his big extension with them started when he was 29.

i hope the braves sign jason heyward to a 10 year deal in 2 or 3 years.

ward

November 30th, 2010
2:34 pm

Sorry i’m not convinced with Nate.Bad…bad… move……

P'cola Brave

November 30th, 2010
2:34 pm

Speed may not go into a slump but it can be hampered by injury and is no good if not on base.

ward

November 30th, 2010
2:37 pm

So can legs cramps with power hitters.

Bat Masterson

November 30th, 2010
2:37 pm

Traded? No, had no idea he was traded…Was he any good? Yunel…sounds Cuban.

Yeah, he was pretty good for awhile, kinda fell off some though. Cuban, nicknamed Smiley

P'cola Brave

November 30th, 2010
2:38 pm

Stolen bases are nice but like it was posted here before, they don’t guarantee runs. Getting caught stealing can run you out of an inning just as quick. I think stolen bases are overhyped. Solid at bats and timely hits along with good baserunning is what produces runs.

ward

November 30th, 2010
2:39 pm

Colorado signed way to much money for Tulowitski. It will cost them in the long run.

ward

November 30th, 2010
2:40 pm

Speed helps against good pitching.

P'cola Brave

November 30th, 2010
2:40 pm

And when it comes to speedy OF’s, we have a couple in the minors. One will be given a shot at the team this year in Matt Young. We don’t need a 70 SB guy. This team is built off high OBP. We will have plenty of chances to score. We just need guys that can score from 2nd on a single.

beekay

November 30th, 2010
2:40 pm

Surprised Schafer’s name still comes up as a possible CF option. The guy has been dreadful the past 2 years. The wrist was an excuse for a while but my bet is Young beats him out easily for a back up role.

jeffrey d

November 30th, 2010
2:40 pm

Getting caught stealing can run you out of an inning just as quick

Too bad we can’t have McCann catch when we’re batting

DAP

November 30th, 2010
2:40 pm

dpelfry, the reason i think the tulo extension is different from the ones you mentioned is because of how young he is. most if not all of the guys you named were in their late 20s at least before those big deals. tulowitski is 26.

Buckeye Brave

November 30th, 2010
2:41 pm

NYYankee “starting to fear what im more afraid of the pirates braves are garbage and thats all they can afford is garbage just like osu is garbage.”

When you make garbage statements be prepared to backup your garbage statements. The only garbage being slung around here is yours. You obviously can’t have an intelligent conversation on this blog so I and I hope everyone else, will no longer respond to your ignorant comments. Yes I do know how to spell ignorant,unlike you.

P'cola Brave

November 30th, 2010
2:41 pm

beekay

Took him a long time to come back from injury. This will be the deciding year on Schafer. IF he doesn’t produce in the minors I would imagine he has no future in ATL.

McFann O O

November 30th, 2010
2:42 pm

Ease I know we talked about Blue Oyster Cult and “Don’t Fear the Reaper”, but maybe that was because we were playing the Phils, and you were getting upset (enraged).

Yeah, that was part of it, true…but there’s a FarSide, too—as soon as I find it, I’ll upload it to PhotoBucket. I had it the other day, but lost the page. :roll:

grammatica ness

Ah! Much better. :P

McFann O O

November 30th, 2010
2:43 pm

jeffery d Too bad we can’t have McCann catch when we’re batting

Don’t make me come over there…

:evil:

timthebrave

November 30th, 2010
2:43 pm

nyyankees are the best….Why can’t you type in complete sentences that make sense? Can you please answer that?

P'cola Brave

November 30th, 2010
2:44 pm

jeffrey d

McCann was better this year. IF he’d just bring that throw in to the bag a little more he’d have a higher success rate. To many balls soared into right center this year. Its all in his mechanics. Hopefully he will spend a little time correcting that this year.

Nova Scotia Steve

November 30th, 2010
2:44 pm

Why are the Braves and Zach Grienke being mentioned in the same sentence let alone breath on Twitter….

I know there aren’t many rumors floating around the hot stove – but – this is a little much?????

jeffrey d

November 30th, 2010
2:45 pm

I love McCann…it was really just poking fun at him/McFann

ward

November 30th, 2010
2:46 pm

People are to afraid to steal any more. Who goes by the books any way. Thats all part of stealing bases to get into scoring position, and to put presure on the pitcher.It worked for San Fran.

ward

November 30th, 2010
2:48 pm

I believe speed opens up your offense.Congradjulations to the 49rs fans out there.

jeffrey d

November 30th, 2010
2:49 pm

People are to afraid to steal any more

Tip of the cap to our nation’s finest

P'cola Brave

November 30th, 2010
2:49 pm

I’d like to see the braves steal a little more but there were numerous times where we should have bunted or hit an ran. I’d like to see them do more of that and steal on certain occasions.

Ease™ in Sandy Springs

November 30th, 2010
2:49 pm

Speed never goes into a slump.

So we can just assign an automatic runner every time McCann gets on base?

cricket

November 30th, 2010
2:50 pm

“I demand excellence” – Richard Dawson

laughable, just laughable. Are you the best at what you do? Im guessing that you are not.

He’s definitely got the best and biggest bowl of sad..

Murph

November 30th, 2010
2:52 pm

ward’s in the house. Hey ward, some Yankee fan came on here and was basically saying you don’t know what you’re talking about. He said “hey, whos the leader of this here blog” (he doesn’t use punctuation) and we all said “ward is” and he said “that ward is imbread” and we said “that doesn’t make any sense”.

I can’t believe you missed it.

unbelievable

November 30th, 2010
2:52 pm

If we don’t make it to the post season? It is because Wren didn’t go out, and get a lead off man with speed. Speed never goes into a slump. – Ward

OBP is far more important that speed. One fast player isnt going to make or break your playoff chances. A number of things could go wrong that would keep the Braves from making the playoffs.

jeffrey d

November 30th, 2010
2:52 pm

Whoa, Richard Dawson was on here?

jwilli120

November 30th, 2010
2:52 pm

@ds1 try jenkins bbq the best in j-ville

DAP

November 30th, 2010
2:52 pm

p’cola brave We just need guys that can score from 2nd on a single.

not to many major leaguers who cant do that. i bet 95% of players can score from 2nd on about 90% of singles. probably another 5% of those singles wouldnt score any player.

TennesseePaul

November 30th, 2010
2:53 pm

i dont think giving tulowitski a 10 year contract is that bad of an idea

Not a bad move at all. The kid will be 36 when it is finished. The deal is not back loaded, which won’t cripple the team like Helton’s contract. And, he’s friggin good. He’s a Dirtbag. No reason not to lock that guy up if you can.

ward

November 30th, 2010
2:53 pm

Just an old saying about speed. When you don’t hit, you can walk, and get on.Steal some bases. Bunt to get on bases,slap the ball passed the third baseman or first baseman. Speed creates a lot of weapons.

Murph

November 30th, 2010
2:54 pm

Who would win in a fight… Richard Dawson or Chuck Woolery? If they were both in their prime…

I’d put my money on Richard Dawson. I bet he bites… he looks like a biter.

jeffrey d

November 30th, 2010
2:56 pm

What I don’t get about the Tulo deal is that he was already signed for 4 more years

ward

November 30th, 2010
2:58 pm

Speaking of fights! Evander Holyfield is fighting agian.

McFann O O

November 30th, 2010
3:00 pm

jeffrey d it was really just poking fun at him/McFann

Oh, well, that makes a difference…

Whoa, Richard Dawson was on here?

Yeah, but he won’t last long around here—not with those Joe Mauer sideburns.

Murph I’d put my money on Richard Dawson. I bet he bites… he looks like a biter.

:lol:

Bat Masterson

November 30th, 2010
3:00 pm

Speed creates a lot of weapons. _ ward

Speed kills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyG6NIgpzBM

cricket

November 30th, 2010
3:01 pm

People are to afraid to steal any more

That explains lower shoplifting rates

ward

November 30th, 2010
3:02 pm

Murph Yankee fans can be full of crap too! After all they buy their way in. A small little joke!

ward

November 30th, 2010
3:05 pm

Nolie: Is our man guy on the blog, and quit the expert.

Efrim

November 30th, 2010
3:06 pm

Wow. Seems like everyone is declining arbitration. That supplemental round in the draft next year will be over 30 selections. Insane.

ward

November 30th, 2010
3:06 pm

Nolie: is our Main expert . He knows way more than I

jeffrey d

November 30th, 2010
3:06 pm

nolie knows way more than a lot of us. He’s a guru

Skeezix

November 30th, 2010
3:07 pm

We want Hinske!

ncscoots

November 30th, 2010
3:08 pm

Speed doesn’t kill, it merely wounds.

Worse than a paper cut, but not much. :-)

P-Town Brave ©

November 30th, 2010
3:08 pm

P’Cola-

Hey, I’d rather see them do anything other than pitching a tent and securing it to the 1b bag

Clarence

November 30th, 2010
3:09 pm

Is this the girls’ field hockey blog?

Ease™ in Sandy Springs

November 30th, 2010
3:09 pm

nolie is no ward who knows bestest about baseball !

Murph

November 30th, 2010
3:09 pm

Well, if nolie is our leader, then ward, you are our mascot.

Bobby Hill

November 30th, 2010
3:09 pm

You know, a lot of what Blunders has said is true. There are question marks up and down the Braves roster. You could put a question mark next to Seabass, Freeman, Chipper, McLouth, Diaz, Jurrjens, Minor, Breachy, Lowe, Venters, and Moylan. Most of those guys are unproven, are coming off down years, or were over worked last year. There really no way to know what to expect from these guys in 2011. The most likely scenario is that a few a them will sink even lower, a few will bounce back, and most will tread water.

That being said, that isn’t exactly a reason to write off the Braves at this point. All teams have question marks. Particularly at this time of year. Plus, the Braves were able to reach the playoffs with minimal contributions from several of the higher paid players on the team last year. With the addition of Uggla there’s no reason to believe that this team won’t be improved over last year.

On the other hand, this team will still probably enter the season picked to finish second behind the Phillies. I’m not sure I can take finishing second to the Phillies again.

David O'Brien

November 30th, 2010
3:10 pm

beekay: Saw that movie (Sugar) recently. That’s the most realistic portrayal I’ve seen of the experience that so many of those Latin kids go through. Judging from all I’ve been told over the years, and what I’ve seen myself, it was accurate.

ward

November 30th, 2010
3:10 pm

You guy’s all have a good one! Got to go to work! Slap some Yankees in the head for me!!! Yakees suck!!!! Peace…… Go!!! Braves!!!.”

ward

November 30th, 2010
3:12 pm

I spelled the Yankees wrong, but who care thier the Yankees!!! Peace……

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