uga-brave: DeNiro actually has a pretty good movie out now with Ed Norton Jr., called Stone. Or at least it was out a few weeks ago when we saw it at Midtown Cinemas. Got mixed reviews, but it was powerful acting by both of those guys. A prison movie, Norton the con and DeNiro the retiring prison psychiatrist.
But I definitely agree with you, his output of great movies has slowed to a trickle, and mostly it’s just the goofball funny roles now (and what do you want to bet he’s probably paid many times more for those Meet the Parents and Analyze This roles than he was paid for his career-defining dramatic roles. He’s probably my favorite actor of all time. Damn, he’s been in so many of the best movies of my lifetime.
I mean, off top of my head: Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, Casino, Godfather II, The Deer Hunter, Bang The Drum Slowly, Mean Streets, Once Upon a Time in America, The King of Comedy … just so many. I loved him in his over-the-top role in Cape Fear, too. And a lot of his comedic stuff, topped by Midnight Run.
But before Stone, I can’t even think of his last memorable dramatic role. But he’s in his late 60s, probably about the same age as Jack Nicholson, who is also in a similar sort of stretch (with the notable exception of his terrific turn in The Deparated, Jack’s doing mostly funny-old-guy roles these days).
Yeah, Scorsese certainly has seemed to peg Leo as his new guy. Mixed results there.
Wasn’t Harvey Keitel originally Scorsese’s guy in the beginning of Scorsese’s career (around the time of Mean Streets), but then Deniro stole Scorsese away from Keitel?
I’ll second DOB’s recommendation for the movie THE TOWN…very good film!
Now onto Jeter and the Yankees…I can’t believe Jeter and his agent had the balls to sit there and rake the Yankees over hot coals for that much money…but I guess the good news for the Yankees is that they overpaid…but instead of paying x3 (which is what we’ve expected) they only went x2! So a “win” for the Yankees at the end…they bought themselves an aging player with diminishing skill set and gave him the “thank you retirement contract” same as the Braves did with Chipper 2 years ago.
Of course the big difference between the Yankees overpaying for Jeter in his “final contract” versus the Braves doing the same with Chipper Jones is…they continue to spend money as they see fit without a care…where in the Braves situation it cripples your payroll for the next 3 years…
Braveheart: That sounds about right, the Keitel/DeNiro/Scorcese thing as you described. How ’bout those guys in Mean Streets? Wow. And DeNiro in Taxi Driver? I mean, he’s 175 pounds of freakin’ absolute tension, ready to explode. And then he gets the Mohawk, and it’s on. Then it’s just a matter of, who gets taken out first, and how messy is it gonna be? What a great, great movie.
DeNiro–”You can start by shutting the **** up. I know you all of five minutes and I don’t like you
already”.
Grodin-”Gee, that’s too bad ’cause I really like you”.
Frankie Knuckles: Thanks for clearing that up about Little Pigs BBQ. Some asked on Twitter where it was, and I said someone else had mentioned Asheville, but that I wasn’t sure.
I know it was just off the top of your head DOB so not trying to “gotcha”, but just a few more of Deniro’s incredible performances for me: The Untouchables and A Bronx Tale, but like you said, there are just so many of them…
One more thing before go! I see your Point DOB: It’s painful to see Mclouth struggle, and to watch as a Braves fan…….Check out the new movie “True Grit” with Jeff Bridges. It looks awsome…… Nite every one………
Hey dave. I know Youve probably said it 100 times now, but in your opinion where is the best que and taco joint in miami/ft lauderdale? The wifes good friend is having a wedding there for new years, any help is welcome.
bronx tale was a great movie. just for the mush thing.
I went to school with the kid from the Bronx Tale (Lillo Brancato). Was pretty good friends with him. One of the craziest, funniest people you’ll ever meet in life (mostly in a good way). Pretty good baseball player too. Loved riding his bike, always dreamed of being the next Greg Lemond. He absolutely worshiped Deniro. He was always doing impressions of him when we were back in grammar school. Kind of lost touch with him after freshman year of high school, and then by the time we were seniors, there he was on the big screen playing the lead role in a Deniro movie. Very, very sad how his life turned out. I don’t think he ever would have shot a cop, but unfortunately he got caught up like a dumb arse in a situation where a cop got shot and killed. The irony was that he didn’t get the message of the damn movie he was in. “Nothing worse than wasted talent.”
Yeah, DOB, when I was watching Stone, I couldn’t help but think about what if the Deniro from around the time of Taxi Driver/Raging Bull was playing the Norton role opposite of the Deniro of today.
She called me baby baby all night long
used to hold and kiss me till the dawn
Then one day I woke and she was gone
now there’s no more baby baby all night long
She called me baby baby all night long
kissed my tears away when things went wrong
What I’d give if she’d just come back home
and call me baby baby all night long
She called me baby baby all night long
lift me up so high and made me strong
Now each night in dreams just like a song
I still hear baby baby all night long
not too bad Frankie. could use a baskup IF who can play short and a 4th OFer who can play all positions, but we may already have them.I’m a bit of a worrier so I never feel too comfortable
nolie,
I think the shakiest move so far is Linebrink. Hope Wren’s not trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice. Meaning, I hope he had several scouts advocating the guy before he made the push. But hey, Frank’s a pretty smart fella. We can handle the infield reserve in house. You gotta admit this team has some serious potential – and i’ll caveat that by saying, I’m a Braves optimist.
I gotta call B.S. on 2:39am. In the event this is true, please pardon.
don’t blame you. it’s true, but it does sound like b.s., and, besides, who here gives a crap that i knew some kid 20 years ago in grammar school? that’s why i should have kept it to myself. just one of them things. either no one cares or they think you’re full of sh!t. kind of like when i hear larry king talk about being childhood friends with sandy koufax. i either assume he’s lying, or i don’t give a crap even if he is telling the truth. and that’s at least mildly interesting since they’re both famous. i’m just some middle class schlub and he’s a scumbag who appeared in a movie one time, amounted to nothing, and is now sitting in a prison cell. so who really gives a sh!t? I’ll give you my email address, and send you the photos though if you think I’m lying
Cool BraveHeart,
You hear these things and wonder, that’s all. Hell, I played poker at a house party with Puck from Real World a few years ago at Myrtle Beach – and some people think I’m lying – ha.
I actually would like to see the photos. i always thought that kid had some potential. He was good in The Tale. Cheers bro..
I’m sitting here outside Atlanta, waching the temperature drop and we’re supposed to have lows in the 20’s beginning tonight, lasting through Friday.
I first heard “She Called Me Baby” performed by none other than the esteemed Tennessee Ernie Ford on an early 70’s release he did with Glen Campbell called “Ernie sings and Glen Picks” It’s actually a good album. Folks can say what they may about Campbell, but the guy remains an incredible guitarist. In fact, I was just looking through my Cline collection–which includes the boxed set–and I don’t have her version of “Baby”; so your link was my first time hearing it.
How are you feeling and how is your mom? t was months ago you last made mention of her.
While we’re talking music and stories, I was at the old Center Stage for Nancy Griffith concert a few years ago and, just to the rear of me, a guy kept coughing and hacking to the point where I wished he would excuse himself, especially due to the fact many of Griffith’s songs are very quiet.
Well, a half hour or so into the concert, the pauses between songs and says she’d like to welcome guest who’s in the audience, a fellow who wrote “Busted” for Ray Charles and “I Fall To Pieces” for Patsy Cline. Just about that time–still caughing and hacking–Harlan Howard stood up two chairs to my left–one row behind–and took a bow before the clapping audience.
yup Howard wrote it, and many others good songs.
I’m ok, fighting thrush again but that’s about all right now. My mom is fine, thanx for asking. She will be 93 on the 10th. Her sister is coming down from St Pete and we will all go out to dinner as a celebration.
we were s’posed to get some cold weather-well for us anyway around 45 during the day- but it stalled out a bit higher in the state and the days have been 60-62 instead. great weather.
Brave On In AZ: Medlen’s supposed to be cleared to begin throwing any day now. Carroll’s got a story about him coming up.
Too early to know when he’ll be back, other than it should be sometimes around 12 months after surgery. So late August or September is realistic goal, at this point. Could be a little sooner or later, just no way of knowing this early. But he’s had no setbacks in recovery.
BraveOne AZ- I’m thinking Medlen’s situation wil be similar to Hudson’s coming of of TJ surgery. Huddy made five starts. I wouldn’t count on Medlen doing much – if any – more.
Jason – Don’t we have enough players coming off of subpar and injury shortened seasons without having to get another like Ellsbury? Glaine pitched (and I think won a CY Young) with broken ribs. Ellsbury missed an entire year and no one is certain whether or not it was anomalous or not – even the powers that be in Boston.
Why do we always have to take chances on more players who we HOPE can come back to norms? For once I’d like to avoid the terms “IF he can come back from injury” or “IF he can hit like he did (how many ever) years ago”.
Nate’s enough of a rehab project and we aren’t trading any talent for someone as Iffy as Ellsbury.
Haggard: Speaking of country greats, you should get the new Loretta Lynn tribute CD, Coal Miner’s Daughter. Almost every song on it is terrific, including a few that you’d never have suspected would be so good: The White Stripes covering “Rated X,” Carrie Underwood’s “Coal Miner’s Daughter,” and young Nashville pop-punker Paramore doing “You Ain’t Woman Enough (To Take My Man).”
Those are great, and so are most others including Lucinda Williams’ “Somebody Somewhere (Don’t Know What He’s Missing Tonight),” Alan Jackson/Martina McBride doing “Louisiana Woman, Mississippi Man,” Lee Ann Womack’s version of “You’re Looking At Country,” and Steve Earle and wife Allison Moorer covering “After The Fire Is Gone.”
Got a 1 p.m. flight to Orlando. Good day to get out of Atlanta, with highs only getting into mid-40s. Actually going to be chilly in Orlando all week, too. But I’ll be stuck inside that meetings hotel all week anyway, so doesn’t much matter.
Bama Brave – Time to start breathing again. I really wouldn’t expect much more except waiver signings and the like.
Uggla and Linebrink are pretty well going to be all there is – along with the kids they’e calling up and the string of Non Roster Invitee signings last week.
DOB: As I mentioned yesterday, Milledge would be someone to look into depending on whether he thinks he’s going to get a starting gig or not (he’s not but he may think he will).
You jumped someone (Ward???) for mentioning Milledge and then proceeded to note if the Braves cut McLouth, any team could sign him for the minimum, which would make him a much more attractive acquisition.
That’s what makes Milledge so interesting. He’s a player that has immense potential but for various reasons hasn’t panned out. But he’d make the minimum which makes him someone to think about.
We’re talking about one of the top prospects in baseball for several years. Now he’s had his mental lapses and attitude has probably been part of the problem with his development. But there have been many players that have turned it around after shaky starts to a career.
That AL MVP would be one that comes to mind.
That’s the type of player the Braves need to take a chance on with that last OF spot. Prado in left leaves not many starts available. Ditto for RF with Heyward. CF is McLouth’s to lose but we’ve all witnessed the potential he has to lose it. Why not bring in a toolsy player that has not panned out as of yet but still has great potential and will come very cheaply? Low risk, potential high reward.
It’s good, sound thinking, especially for a team operating with the Brave’s payroll setup.
The Reds have made a habit of taking failed prospects and getting production out of them for cheap.
TommyP- I don’t know – MAYBE for a minimum and a short leash on MIlledge? Not so sure five years of not much of anything is just a “slow start” – especially with all of his (shall we say)social issues.
Dude has no power, doesn’t steal bases, has an OBP of .328 (marginal), played only a full season once, has behavioral problems and has been dumped by every team he’s played for.
And as to the Reds and rejects – Where, exactly has that gotten them? How many losing seasons the past twenty years? Last year was the first success they’ve had. Not so sure that business model is really working for them – any more than it really worked for us the past four or so years.
Non-roster invitee. He’s the definition of it. Low-risk, potential high reward. If he does anything to tick you off, you send him packing.
Some of the prospect gurus can correct me on this but wasn’t Milledge the #1 prospect in baseball? I can’t remember but he was top 5, no doubt. So there’s obviously tremendous potential there.
Lew: “Dude has no power, doesn’t steal bases….”
He stole 24 bases just 2 years ago. Power is often an adjustment in mechanics. If someone can work on his mechanics, he could definitely flash the “25 home run potential” that was talked about for years.
He DID hit .277 and .291 the last two years. There’s something to build on here.
Again, he’s brought in to compete for a backup OF job. We’re not talking a savior here.
Did I say “base your whole blueprint on finding failed prospects”? Hardly.
I said sign a former top prospect and let him compete for the 5th OF slot.
Besides, the Reds haven’t built with failed prospects, they just bring in several every year to let them battle for a roster spot. Lightning in a bottle for no cost at all.
Tommy P – Yet another “He did something two years ago” player. How much longer does this need to continue? If only Nate can return to form. If only Ellsbury can come back from the injury. If only, If only, If only.
Really getting tired of hearing it in reference to players we acquire.
Yeah, like I said MAYBE as a minimum salary invitee, but I still don’t see it happening. The Braves will NOT start to get players with attitude problems just cause Fredi’s managing now.
TommyP- Didn’t twist anything, much less do it Masterfully. You specifically cited the Reds as getting rejects and making them work. I pointed out it didn’t work. What’s twisted there? Read the last paragraph of your post.
And Lightning in a bottle is NOTgoing to the playoffs once every twenty years like the Reds. Ever since the Dibble Days, they haven’t done diddly and it wasn’t until lat year when they did – When a Home Grown player won the MVP for them.
TommyP- Immaterial, when you consider they’d be getting him as insurance in case Nate tanks again and they have to sit him down, send him to the minors or just bite the bullet and eat the salary (doubtful).
Face it – Milledge is just not a Braves’ type player and even so, they’ve already brought in quite a few non roster invitees that play outfield and infield. They also have home grown Matt Young – a player not unlike Milledge – already there, who can also play infield. Milledge won’t even be a consideration.
I said the Reds bring in guys that are “toolsy” players to fill back up spots on the team. They fight it out for a roster spot. Not to start. To backup. The Reds have 50 other reasons for why they haven’t won over the years but it’s not because of non-roster invitees to battle it out in spring for the 25th roster spot.
You are now trying to prove to me that building from within like Joey Votto is the way to go. I have no idea why you are arguing that with me. What does that have to do with ANYTHING I’ve said?
Let me give you the Cliffs Notes version of what I said. Bring in a supremely talented former top prospect in baseball to compete for the last spot on the roster. To back up. Nothing more.
I never said the Reds were a model to build with failed prospects.
The “lightning in a bottle” you referenced simply refers to 1 player on your team. You’re not trying to base your offseason plan on these types of players.
I’m with you. I would take a chance on a guy like Milledge. I wouldn’t get my hopes up, but I don’t see any problem with picking someone up on the cheap to see if they pan out. We used to do that with pitchers all the time. We aren’t in a position where we need to depend on Milledge. We’d just be checking it out. Low risk, low reward.
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cabravesfan
December 5th, 2010
1:30 am
Well, if we are going to end the season without a bowl game, there’s no better way to end it they beating ucla
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
1:32 am
bravey, i think his film company is called tribecca.
he has checked out.
martin scoresia, not spelled right has chose leo as his next guy.
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
1:35 am
cab, kinda like beating GT.
Lollygagger
December 5th, 2010
1:36 am
Greinke? Really? Next…
cabravesfan
December 5th, 2010
1:36 am
uga-brave-
yup. Kinda like that…except we have won enough games to play in a bowl, we just can’t play in a bowl
Snotboogie
December 5th, 2010
1:38 am
has chose leo as his next guy.
Yeah but his range isnt as great. He is more of a star than an actor.
ward
December 5th, 2010
1:38 am
So keep him, and hope he does well…… I just don’t see it happening. Worst seven million dollar investment ever…..I wish Nate the best……..
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
1:39 am
pretty sure between mark richt’s pot luck church dinners he has to take notice.
well maybe not?
auburn, lsu, florida, alabama. etc..
all are about to play or have played for a national championship.
ward
December 5th, 2010
1:39 am
Guy’s Be Cool, and I will talk tomorrow….. Nite……
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
1:43 am
mark, if you lose to boise state next year and follow it up with a loss to the thunders chickens , god aint gonna save you.
David O'Brien
December 5th, 2010
1:46 am
uga-brave: DeNiro actually has a pretty good movie out now with Ed Norton Jr., called Stone. Or at least it was out a few weeks ago when we saw it at Midtown Cinemas. Got mixed reviews, but it was powerful acting by both of those guys. A prison movie, Norton the con and DeNiro the retiring prison psychiatrist.
But I definitely agree with you, his output of great movies has slowed to a trickle, and mostly it’s just the goofball funny roles now (and what do you want to bet he’s probably paid many times more for those Meet the Parents and Analyze This roles than he was paid for his career-defining dramatic roles. He’s probably my favorite actor of all time. Damn, he’s been in so many of the best movies of my lifetime.
I mean, off top of my head: Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, Casino, Godfather II, The Deer Hunter, Bang The Drum Slowly, Mean Streets, Once Upon a Time in America, The King of Comedy … just so many. I loved him in his over-the-top role in Cape Fear, too. And a lot of his comedic stuff, topped by Midnight Run.
But before Stone, I can’t even think of his last memorable dramatic role. But he’s in his late 60s, probably about the same age as Jack Nicholson, who is also in a similar sort of stretch (with the notable exception of his terrific turn in The Deparated, Jack’s doing mostly funny-old-guy roles these days).
Braveheart
December 5th, 2010
1:49 am
Yeah, Scorsese certainly has seemed to peg Leo as his new guy. Mixed results there.
Wasn’t Harvey Keitel originally Scorsese’s guy in the beginning of Scorsese’s career (around the time of Mean Streets), but then Deniro stole Scorsese away from Keitel?
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
1:49 am
how about those thrashers.
bought a half season package. the wife is a huge hockey fan.
just whipped washington again.
big BUFF can skate.
Braveheart
December 5th, 2010
1:51 am
Yeah, I saw Stone after DOB recommended it. Very good acting by Deniro and Norton in it.
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
1:53 am
midnight run with him and grodin, pretty darn good.
David O'Brien
December 5th, 2010
1:55 am
I just looked it up and DeNiro is actually six years younger than Nicholson. DeNiro is 67.
Supes
December 5th, 2010
1:55 am
I’ll second DOB’s recommendation for the movie THE TOWN…very good film!
Now onto Jeter and the Yankees…I can’t believe Jeter and his agent had the balls to sit there and rake the Yankees over hot coals for that much money…but I guess the good news for the Yankees is that they overpaid…but instead of paying x3 (which is what we’ve expected) they only went x2! So a “win” for the Yankees at the end…they bought themselves an aging player with diminishing skill set and gave him the “thank you retirement contract” same as the Braves did with Chipper 2 years ago.
Supes
December 5th, 2010
1:57 am
Of course the big difference between the Yankees overpaying for Jeter in his “final contract” versus the Braves doing the same with Chipper Jones is…they continue to spend money as they see fit without a care…where in the Braves situation it cripples your payroll for the next 3 years…
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
1:57 am
goodfellas, what a great movie.
took a film class as my last objective at georgia.
we studied the scene when they walked into the nightclub with the camera following them throughout the the club.
David O'Brien
December 5th, 2010
1:57 am
Braveheart: That sounds about right, the Keitel/DeNiro/Scorcese thing as you described. How ’bout those guys in Mean Streets? Wow. And DeNiro in Taxi Driver? I mean, he’s 175 pounds of freakin’ absolute tension, ready to explode. And then he gets the Mohawk, and it’s on. Then it’s just a matter of, who gets taken out first, and how messy is it gonna be? What a great, great movie.
Jarryd
December 5th, 2010
1:58 am
just got home. Sorry VJ, but damn is it not great to be a GSU fan. This playoff run is going to do wonders for our program.
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
2:00 am
kinda like what mike jacobs did with camera angles in the graduate.
the graduate camera angle wise was awesome.
loved that movie.
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
2:03 am
dob, michael douglass, harrison ford, all just about 67.
mean steets, for all you plebes check out that movie.
Frankie Knuckles
December 5th, 2010
2:04 am
Great football today! Cam really is nasty.
DOB, Little Pigs BBQ’s a joint in Asheville – this I know. The question is, photoshopped? Regardless it’ll be my wallpaper for a while.
Thanks for the updates man!
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
2:06 am
HEAT, michael mann had his shot. deniro and pachino. did it miami vice like. good movie. actually really good.
David O'Brien
December 5th, 2010
2:07 am
DeNiro as Travis Bickle, Taxi Driver: http://www.entertonement.com/clips/pwgldzcgfx–Some-day-a-real-rain-will-come-and-wash-all-the-scum-off-the-streetsTaxi-Driver-Robert-De-Niro-Travis-Blickle-
Jethro Bodine
December 5th, 2010
2:09 am
DeNiro–”You can start by shutting the **** up. I know you all of five minutes and I don’t like you
already”.
Grodin-”Gee, that’s too bad ’cause I really like you”.
Jethro Bodine
December 5th, 2010
2:11 am
“Mrs. Robinson, you’re trying to seduce me”.
David O'Brien
December 5th, 2010
2:12 am
Frankie Knuckles: Thanks for clearing that up about Little Pigs BBQ. Some asked on Twitter where it was, and I said someone else had mentioned Asheville, but that I wasn’t sure.
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
2:14 am
DOB, bbq, braves, cash, and wifi should be your lead in always.
Mike S
December 5th, 2010
2:15 am
I know it was just off the top of your head DOB so not trying to “gotcha”, but just a few more of Deniro’s incredible performances for me: The Untouchables and A Bronx Tale, but like you said, there are just so many of them…
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
2:17 am
mike S, bronx tale was a great movie. just for the mush thing.\\\
everyone has a mush friend.
Jarryd
December 5th, 2010
2:18 am
I have to agree with uga, Heat was damn good.
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
2:21 am
everyone has a mush. that guy that is unlucky. not unlucky, but cursed.
kinda unlucky like the flintstones woosy wozey.
ward
December 5th, 2010
2:23 am
One more thing before go! I see your Point DOB: It’s painful to see Mclouth struggle, and to watch as a Braves fan…….Check out the new movie “True Grit” with Jeff Bridges. It looks awsome…… Nite every one………
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
2:23 am
like scleprock, woosy wozey. everyone has a friend like him.
Jethro Bodine
December 5th, 2010
2:23 am
What was the one DeNiro did with Duvall? Duvall was a priest, I believe
Jethro Bodine
December 5th, 2010
2:25 am
Ronin and Sleepers for DeNiro
Bigwheel
December 5th, 2010
2:25 am
Hey dave. I know Youve probably said it 100 times now, but in your opinion where is the best que and taco joint in miami/ft lauderdale? The wifes good friend is having a wedding there for new years, any help is welcome.
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
2:29 am
efrim, just so you know. i like macc. just dislke where he hits in the order.
watching him hit fourth or fifth, scares me.
he is a six hole guy.
he is a great hitting catcher, who now hits into a shift.
he is not a cleanup guy, nor is he a fifth hole hitter.
Jarryd
December 5th, 2010
2:30 am
Forgot about Ronin, Good one too.
Jethro Bodine
December 5th, 2010
2:38 am
True Confessions was the movie and I had the roles reversed. DeNiro was the priest and Duvall played his brother, a detective.
Andrew in PA
December 5th, 2010
2:39 am
Let’s hope the Yankees can get Crawford so then we can get Gardner.
Braveheart
December 5th, 2010
2:39 am
bronx tale was a great movie. just for the mush thing.
I went to school with the kid from the Bronx Tale (Lillo Brancato). Was pretty good friends with him. One of the craziest, funniest people you’ll ever meet in life (mostly in a good way). Pretty good baseball player too. Loved riding his bike, always dreamed of being the next Greg Lemond. He absolutely worshiped Deniro. He was always doing impressions of him when we were back in grammar school. Kind of lost touch with him after freshman year of high school, and then by the time we were seniors, there he was on the big screen playing the lead role in a Deniro movie. Very, very sad how his life turned out. I don’t think he ever would have shot a cop, but unfortunately he got caught up like a dumb arse in a situation where a cop got shot and killed. The irony was that he didn’t get the message of the damn movie he was in. “Nothing worse than wasted talent.”
Jethro Bodine
December 5th, 2010
2:41 am
The bail bondsman in Midnight Run morphed into one of Lt. Gerrard’s team in The Fugitive and the followup.
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
2:50 am
braveheart, kinda like the basketball diaries. i know you saw that movie.
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
2:52 am
i absolutely know the guy you are talking about. correct me if i am wrong he also did a stint in the sorpranos.
Braveheart
December 5th, 2010
2:56 am
yeah, uga, never thought of it like that, but there are some similarities to the basketball diaries
Braveheart
December 5th, 2010
3:00 am
yeah, he was in the sopranos for a few episodes before he got whacked by Tony
Braveheart
December 5th, 2010
3:04 am
Yeah, DOB, when I was watching Stone, I couldn’t help but think about what if the Deniro from around the time of Taxi Driver/Raging Bull was playing the Norton role opposite of the Deniro of today.
uga-brave
December 5th, 2010
3:07 am
bravey, always a pleasure. since the day you walked into dave’s friends record record shop and said anybody got aint whitesnake you had me.
Frankie Knuckles
December 5th, 2010
3:45 am
Just caught Robert Deniro on SNL saying, “New York, home of the Atlanta Braves.” – pretty cool.
Hope it wasn’t a jab.
nolie
December 5th, 2010
4:45 am
She called me baby baby all night long
used to hold and kiss me till the dawn
Then one day I woke and she was gone
now there’s no more baby baby all night long
She called me baby baby all night long
kissed my tears away when things went wrong
What I’d give if she’d just come back home
and call me baby baby all night long
She called me baby baby all night long
lift me up so high and made me strong
Now each night in dreams just like a song
I still hear baby baby all night long
nolie
December 5th, 2010
4:57 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9Yssf90XQM
Patst Cline
He Called Me Baby
Frankie Knuckles
December 5th, 2010
4:58 am
Braveheart,
I gotta call B.S. on 2:39am. In the event this is true, please pardon.
Frankie Knuckles
December 5th, 2010
4:59 am
Nolie,
You feeling good about next season? Me, I have the same concerns that always lead to a season in which I watch 4 games a week.
nolie
December 5th, 2010
5:11 am
not too bad Frankie. could use a baskup IF who can play short and a 4th OFer who can play all positions, but we may already have them.I’m a bit of a worrier so I never feel too comfortable
haggard
December 5th, 2010
5:14 am
nolie
That’s some fine Patsy. My all-time favorite by her just may be “Why Can’t He Be You”. Talk about a torcher !
Frankie Knuckles
December 5th, 2010
5:27 am
nolie,
I think the shakiest move so far is Linebrink. Hope Wren’s not trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice. Meaning, I hope he had several scouts advocating the guy before he made the push. But hey, Frank’s a pretty smart fella. We can handle the infield reserve in house. You gotta admit this team has some serious potential – and i’ll caveat that by saying, I’m a Braves optimist.
Braveheart
December 5th, 2010
5:31 am
I gotta call B.S. on 2:39am. In the event this is true, please pardon.
don’t blame you. it’s true, but it does sound like b.s., and, besides, who here gives a crap that i knew some kid 20 years ago in grammar school? that’s why i should have kept it to myself. just one of them things. either no one cares or they think you’re full of sh!t. kind of like when i hear larry king talk about being childhood friends with sandy koufax. i either assume he’s lying, or i don’t give a crap even if he is telling the truth. and that’s at least mildly interesting since they’re both famous. i’m just some middle class schlub and he’s a scumbag who appeared in a movie one time, amounted to nothing, and is now sitting in a prison cell. so who really gives a sh!t? I’ll give you my email address, and send you the photos though if you think I’m lying
haggard
December 5th, 2010
5:34 am
Braveheart
You’re solid here and I enjoyed the connection.
Frankie Knuckles
December 5th, 2010
5:41 am
Cool BraveHeart,
You hear these things and wonder, that’s all. Hell, I played poker at a house party with Puck from Real World a few years ago at Myrtle Beach – and some people think I’m lying – ha.
I actually would like to see the photos. i always thought that kid had some potential. He was good in The Tale. Cheers bro..
nolie
December 5th, 2010
5:43 am
hi there hag. whats the haps?
Cline is great as is Hank Sr.
was in a Called me baby kinda mood tonight I guess
nolie
December 5th, 2010
5:45 am
ain’t all that unusual to know some famous folks. thanx for the anecdote
haggard
December 5th, 2010
5:57 am
Mornin’ nolie
I’m sitting here outside Atlanta, waching the temperature drop and we’re supposed to have lows in the 20’s beginning tonight, lasting through Friday.
I first heard “She Called Me Baby” performed by none other than the esteemed Tennessee Ernie Ford on an early 70’s release he did with Glen Campbell called “Ernie sings and Glen Picks” It’s actually a good album. Folks can say what they may about Campbell, but the guy remains an incredible guitarist. In fact, I was just looking through my Cline collection–which includes the boxed set–and I don’t have her version of “Baby”; so your link was my first time hearing it.
How are you feeling and how is your mom? t was months ago you last made mention of her.
haggard
December 5th, 2010
6:07 am
nolie
While we’re talking music and stories, I was at the old Center Stage for Nancy Griffith concert a few years ago and, just to the rear of me, a guy kept coughing and hacking to the point where I wished he would excuse himself, especially due to the fact many of Griffith’s songs are very quiet.
Well, a half hour or so into the concert, the pauses between songs and says she’d like to welcome guest who’s in the audience, a fellow who wrote “Busted” for Ray Charles and “I Fall To Pieces” for Patsy Cline. Just about that time–still caughing and hacking–Harlan Howard stood up two chairs to my left–one row behind–and took a bow before the clapping audience.
haggard
December 5th, 2010
6:12 am
nolie
Just realized Howard also penned “She Called Me Baby”.
nolie
December 5th, 2010
6:21 am
yup Howard wrote it, and many others good songs.
I’m ok, fighting thrush again but that’s about all right now. My mom is fine, thanx for asking. She will be 93 on the 10th. Her sister is coming down from St Pete and we will all go out to dinner as a celebration.
nolie
December 5th, 2010
6:24 am
we were s’posed to get some cold weather-well for us anyway around 45 during the day- but it stalled out a bit higher in the state and the days have been 60-62 instead. great weather.
haggard
December 5th, 2010
6:31 am
Good to hear. And sounds like a good evening in the making with dinner on the 10th.
JasonInFL
December 5th, 2010
7:23 am
I like this lineup:
Ribsbury
Prado
J-Hey
Uggs
Chip
Mac
Gonzo
FF
Brave One In AZ
December 5th, 2010
7:54 am
DOB,
Any report on how Kris Medlin is doing in rehab?
I know hes probably not back til late August, but could he be a guy that could eat some innings as a starter or reliever during the dog days?
Or is he a guy they probably will shut down for all of 2011?
jeffrey d
December 5th, 2010
8:16 am
Who’s Ribsbury?
Sounds delicious
JasonInFL
December 5th, 2010
8:34 am
jeffrey d…Ellsbury
Of course, if we can’t (and most likely won’t) get Ribsbury. The second best lineup would be Nate getting his freaking act together…
Nate
Prado
J-Hey
Uggs
Chip
Mac
Gonzo
FF
I think that would be one of our best lineups and would be lefty/righty througout the lineup
David O'Brien
December 5th, 2010
9:23 am
Brave On In AZ: Medlen’s supposed to be cleared to begin throwing any day now. Carroll’s got a story about him coming up.
Too early to know when he’ll be back, other than it should be sometimes around 12 months after surgery. So late August or September is realistic goal, at this point. Could be a little sooner or later, just no way of knowing this early. But he’s had no setbacks in recovery.
Lew
December 5th, 2010
9:24 am
BraveOne AZ- I’m thinking Medlen’s situation wil be similar to Hudson’s coming of of TJ surgery. Huddy made five starts. I wouldn’t count on Medlen doing much – if any – more.
Jason – Don’t we have enough players coming off of subpar and injury shortened seasons without having to get another like Ellsbury? Glaine pitched (and I think won a CY Young) with broken ribs. Ellsbury missed an entire year and no one is certain whether or not it was anomalous or not – even the powers that be in Boston.
Why do we always have to take chances on more players who we HOPE can come back to norms? For once I’d like to avoid the terms “IF he can come back from injury” or “IF he can hit like he did (how many ever) years ago”.
Nate’s enough of a rehab project and we aren’t trading any talent for someone as Iffy as Ellsbury.
richbrave
December 5th, 2010
9:27 am
Trey
December 4th, 2010
11:39 pm
jeffrey, I know it’s kind of a contradiction. I quit spraying spiders too. I felt too bad.
Thank you Jeffrey. Everyone at the University of Richmond appreciates you actions.
David O'Brien
December 5th, 2010
9:35 am
Haggard: Speaking of country greats, you should get the new Loretta Lynn tribute CD, Coal Miner’s Daughter. Almost every song on it is terrific, including a few that you’d never have suspected would be so good: The White Stripes covering “Rated X,” Carrie Underwood’s “Coal Miner’s Daughter,” and young Nashville pop-punker Paramore doing “You Ain’t Woman Enough (To Take My Man).”
Those are great, and so are most others including Lucinda Williams’ “Somebody Somewhere (Don’t Know What He’s Missing Tonight),” Alan Jackson/Martina McBride doing “Louisiana Woman, Mississippi Man,” Lee Ann Womack’s version of “You’re Looking At Country,” and Steve Earle and wife Allison Moorer covering “After The Fire Is Gone.”
jeffrey d
December 5th, 2010
9:36 am
No problem richbrave…I was thinking of the University of Richmond when I called him out…
David O'Brien
December 5th, 2010
9:41 am
Got a 1 p.m. flight to Orlando. Good day to get out of Atlanta, with highs only getting into mid-40s. Actually going to be chilly in Orlando all week, too. But I’ll be stuck inside that meetings hotel all week anyway, so doesn’t much matter.
Bama Brave
December 5th, 2010
9:54 am
any news on any more trades?
jeffrey d
December 5th, 2010
10:00 am
We’re trading DOB for some cold weather
Lew
December 5th, 2010
10:13 am
Bama Brave – Time to start breathing again. I really wouldn’t expect much more except waiver signings and the like.
Uggla and Linebrink are pretty well going to be all there is – along with the kids they’e calling up and the string of Non Roster Invitee signings last week.
TommyP
December 5th, 2010
10:14 am
DOB: As I mentioned yesterday, Milledge would be someone to look into depending on whether he thinks he’s going to get a starting gig or not (he’s not but he may think he will).
You jumped someone (Ward???) for mentioning Milledge and then proceeded to note if the Braves cut McLouth, any team could sign him for the minimum, which would make him a much more attractive acquisition.
That’s what makes Milledge so interesting. He’s a player that has immense potential but for various reasons hasn’t panned out. But he’d make the minimum which makes him someone to think about.
We’re talking about one of the top prospects in baseball for several years. Now he’s had his mental lapses and attitude has probably been part of the problem with his development. But there have been many players that have turned it around after shaky starts to a career.
That AL MVP would be one that comes to mind.
That’s the type of player the Braves need to take a chance on with that last OF spot. Prado in left leaves not many starts available. Ditto for RF with Heyward. CF is McLouth’s to lose but we’ve all witnessed the potential he has to lose it. Why not bring in a toolsy player that has not panned out as of yet but still has great potential and will come very cheaply? Low risk, potential high reward.
It’s good, sound thinking, especially for a team operating with the Brave’s payroll setup.
The Reds have made a habit of taking failed prospects and getting production out of them for cheap.
Lew
December 5th, 2010
10:21 am
TommyP- I don’t know – MAYBE for a minimum and a short leash on MIlledge? Not so sure five years of not much of anything is just a “slow start” – especially with all of his (shall we say)social issues.
Dude has no power, doesn’t steal bases, has an OBP of .328 (marginal), played only a full season once, has behavioral problems and has been dumped by every team he’s played for.
I don’t see it happening.
LTBF
December 5th, 2010
10:25 am
Good morning all
On this morning posts. Ed Norton is a great actor and Patsy Cline a wonderful singer.
Lew
December 5th, 2010
10:26 am
And as to the Reds and rejects – Where, exactly has that gotten them? How many losing seasons the past twenty years? Last year was the first success they’ve had. Not so sure that business model is really working for them – any more than it really worked for us the past four or so years.
TommyP
December 5th, 2010
10:32 am
Non-roster invitee. He’s the definition of it. Low-risk, potential high reward. If he does anything to tick you off, you send him packing.
Some of the prospect gurus can correct me on this but wasn’t Milledge the #1 prospect in baseball? I can’t remember but he was top 5, no doubt. So there’s obviously tremendous potential there.
Lew: “Dude has no power, doesn’t steal bases….”
He stole 24 bases just 2 years ago. Power is often an adjustment in mechanics. If someone can work on his mechanics, he could definitely flash the “25 home run potential” that was talked about for years.
He DID hit .277 and .291 the last two years. There’s something to build on here.
Again, he’s brought in to compete for a backup OF job. We’re not talking a savior here.
TommyP
December 5th, 2010
10:35 am
Lew: You’re becoming a master at twisting words.
Did I say “base your whole blueprint on finding failed prospects”? Hardly.
I said sign a former top prospect and let him compete for the 5th OF slot.
Besides, the Reds haven’t built with failed prospects, they just bring in several every year to let them battle for a roster spot. Lightning in a bottle for no cost at all.
Lew
December 5th, 2010
10:38 am
Tommy P – Yet another “He did something two years ago” player. How much longer does this need to continue? If only Nate can return to form. If only Ellsbury can come back from the injury. If only, If only, If only.
Really getting tired of hearing it in reference to players we acquire.
Yeah, like I said MAYBE as a minimum salary invitee, but I still don’t see it happening. The Braves will NOT start to get players with attitude problems just cause Fredi’s managing now.
Lew
December 5th, 2010
10:41 am
TommyP- Didn’t twist anything, much less do it Masterfully. You specifically cited the Reds as getting rejects and making them work. I pointed out it didn’t work. What’s twisted there? Read the last paragraph of your post.
Lew
December 5th, 2010
10:43 am
And Lightning in a bottle is NOTgoing to the playoffs once every twenty years like the Reds. Ever since the Dibble Days, they haven’t done diddly and it wasn’t until lat year when they did – When a Home Grown player won the MVP for them.
TommyP
December 5th, 2010
10:45 am
Lew: We’re not acquiring a player like this to start. We’re talking back-up OF.
The problem for the Braves has been they’ve signed a few of these types TO START. This is strictly an end of the roster type player. Nothing more.
Lew
December 5th, 2010
10:50 am
TommyP- Immaterial, when you consider they’d be getting him as insurance in case Nate tanks again and they have to sit him down, send him to the minors or just bite the bullet and eat the salary (doubtful).
Face it – Milledge is just not a Braves’ type player and even so, they’ve already brought in quite a few non roster invitees that play outfield and infield. They also have home grown Matt Young – a player not unlike Milledge – already there, who can also play infield. Milledge won’t even be a consideration.
Lew
December 5th, 2010
10:51 am
And if he’s disruptive as a starter, you think he’ll be any more pleased coming in as a sub?
TommyP
December 5th, 2010
10:52 am
You’re simply not following. ANYTHING I’ve said.
I said the Reds bring in guys that are “toolsy” players to fill back up spots on the team. They fight it out for a roster spot. Not to start. To backup. The Reds have 50 other reasons for why they haven’t won over the years but it’s not because of non-roster invitees to battle it out in spring for the 25th roster spot.
You are now trying to prove to me that building from within like Joey Votto is the way to go. I have no idea why you are arguing that with me. What does that have to do with ANYTHING I’ve said?
Let me give you the Cliffs Notes version of what I said. Bring in a supremely talented former top prospect in baseball to compete for the last spot on the roster. To back up. Nothing more.
I never said the Reds were a model to build with failed prospects.
The “lightning in a bottle” you referenced simply refers to 1 player on your team. You’re not trying to base your offseason plan on these types of players.
Bravefaninok
December 5th, 2010
10:52 am
Enter your comments here
TommyP
December 5th, 2010
10:53 am
Trust me, Lew. The Braves CAN afford to cut a minimum salary player if he doesn’t work out.
VaBravesFan
December 5th, 2010
10:58 am
Good Morning friends, Making a early prediction that Tommy Hanson will have a dominant season and be in the Cy conversation.
Owl Hunter
December 5th, 2010
10:58 am
TommyP
I’m with you. I would take a chance on a guy like Milledge. I wouldn’t get my hopes up, but I don’t see any problem with picking someone up on the cheap to see if they pan out. We used to do that with pitchers all the time. We aren’t in a position where we need to depend on Milledge. We’d just be checking it out. Low risk, low reward.