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FEAR
December 2nd, 2010
7:40 pm
jeffrey d – I was a KK supporter last season and the one before that. But it’s obvious the Braves do not want him at all. So i kinda gave up. Watch he’ll go to some lame team (pirates, KC, Nats) and be like 3rd runner up to the cy voting.
David O'Brien
December 2nd, 2010
7:42 pm
which bullpen guys are the braves looking at adding dob? — joedirt
don’t know that yet, joedirt. They’ve been waiting, like other teams, to see who might get non-tendered today. In next few days and at Winter Meetings, we’ll nose around, make calls, talk to agents, and hopefully hear of a few players the Braves have interest in. As you might imagine, the Braves themselves aren’t providing updates on possible interest level in today’s non-tendered pitchers and players.
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
7:42 pm
FEAR
From what I heard TP say in an interview he was a big reason as to why J-Hey was such a disciplined hitter at the plate for a 20 year old rookie…
thats why TP grew on me…
nolie
December 2nd, 2010
7:42 pm
I’m guessin’ everybody in baseball knows that the Braves are not gonna use him and will take whatever to move him and they are not gonna offer what he is worth, which is more than 1.5 mil
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a Go)
December 2nd, 2010
7:43 pm
Three names for consideration concerning the need to replace Omar Infante’s utility role.
Robert Andino, Andrew Romine and Corey Wimberly.
P'cola Brave
December 2nd, 2010
7:44 pm
Joker
Can’t argue with that. Besides Gonzo the braves were very disciplined hitting team. Led the league in OBP. IF TP did anything right it was teach discipline.
nolie
December 2nd, 2010
7:44 pm
sigh
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
7:45 pm
FEAR
December 2nd, 2010
7:40 pm
jeffrey d – I was a KK supporter last season and the one before that. But it’s obvious the Braves do not want him at all. So i kinda gave up. Watch he’ll go to some lame team (pirates, KC, Nats) and be like 3rd runner up to the cy voting.
You willing to Bank On It…? If he goes to another ML team, he will get a hella lot more run support than he did as a Brave
I thought Javy Vazquez was bad in terms of receiving run support but KK had a whole nother level of run support, or lack thereof…
His W-L record is misleading, I really hate that stat…
If KK ends up anywhere it will be with the Rangers where their pitchers have to get run support to be 1/2 way effective
P'cola Brave
December 2nd, 2010
7:47 pm
Personally I think a good landing spot for KK is Seattle.
Braveheart
December 2nd, 2010
7:47 pm
Back up short stop and the bullpen, it’s gonna be a boring rest of the winter until spring training.
23 days ’til Christmas, and all Frank Wren has left to buy are stocking stuffers.
SoWeGa Fanatic
December 2nd, 2010
7:47 pm
TP’s been around what? 10-11 years? All of a sudden he’s teaching discipline to hitters?
nolie
December 2nd, 2010
7:47 pm
which would be kinda amazing since he had little himself. however most of the players had already exhibited plate discipline B4 he got them ,especially Heyward, and most of those who hadn’t didn’t improve much if any, so I’m kinda skeptical myself
jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
7:47 pm
FEAR – I know he has no future with the Braves, but I think he deserved better than to be locked in a closet. Now the Braves are saying “Hey, we don’t like you, and we’re going to pay $6 million to get rid of you.”
keylargo
December 2nd, 2010
7:47 pm
I can taste a Kevin Gregg Signing by the Braves F.O. by the end of next week…
He is the veteran arm out of the pen that we need…
My feelings on K Greg, after watching him close for the Marlins, can be summed up in a few words.
“Is Chris Reitsma available”?
jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
7:48 pm
What?? I thought the most important art of hitting was your hitting coach
nolie
December 2nd, 2010
7:49 pm
“Is Chris Reitsma available” KL
not sure, but he might be as good as Gregg if he is
P'cola Brave
December 2nd, 2010
7:49 pm
Looks like ole Buddy Carlyle is back in the states. Signed minor league deal with Yanks.
FEAR
December 2nd, 2010
7:49 pm
i agree with you a 100% jeffrey. As fas as him pitchng well with a crap team I was sorta kidding. Though it wouldn’t surprise me to see him go to a team with a lot of run support and see him do pretty well.
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
7:50 pm
“jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
7:38 pm
I’m not going to argue that KK’s pitched great, but has he really pitched poorly enough to force the Braves to shove him in the basement and eat millions just to get rid of him?
I know he’s not overly popular on here, but a few things to consider:
-He allowed 3 or fewer runs in 10 of his 16 starts last season
-He had an ERA under 4 in 2009
-His ERA since becoming a Brave (4.32) is lower than Lowe’s (4.33)
Again, not saying that KK is amazing, but I do think he’s better than some make him out to be.”
I thought that way after 2009 and thought he would be better in 2010. He wasn’t – he seemed to go in the other direction. I know he had awful run support (I don’t know the numbers but I know it was not good). I don’t think you can really compare him to Lowe – well, you can, but it doesn’t seem likely the Braves see it that way. Is it fair that they have decided to give up on KK? Can he be a good pitcher in the MLB? Maybe. But it apparently is what it is. And if they’re going to eat money on a contract, it’s easier for them to do it with a starting pitcher at this point than a CF.
nolie
December 2nd, 2010
7:50 pm
how did Buddy do over there P?
jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
7:51 pm
As fas as him pitchng well with a crap team I was sorta kidding
No, that sorta thing happens….like when Francoeur was hitting .400 after the first couple weeks of this season
Jake W.
December 2nd, 2010
7:51 pm
Today we salute you, Mr. In-game overreactor
Mr. In-game overREACTORRR!
So many of those to salute on this blog.
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
7:52 pm
“Braveheart
December 2nd, 2010
7:47 pm
Back up short stop and the bullpen, it’s gonna be a boring rest of the winter until spring training.
23 days ’til Christmas, and all Frank Wren has left to buy are stocking stuffers.”
A sure sign of a really good off-season!
Danga
December 2nd, 2010
7:52 pm
What?? I thought the most important art of hitting was your hitting coach
Only when the players aren’t hitting well.
Braveheart
December 2nd, 2010
7:53 pm
“Just in talking to him, he said don’t forget about me for the future.”
Diaz is standing outside Frank Wren’s window with the boom box over his head, blasting “Don’t You Forget About Me” by Simple Minds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAdaQhitdKg
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
7:53 pm
jeffrey d
“I hope They have me on one of those “Real Men of Genius” Radio Commercials one day…
Today we salute you, Mr. In-game overreactor
Mr. In-game overREACTORRR!”
LMAO, I do have To Co-Sign On That…”Watching the Game is a Mans time of the month w/o the Cramps…
Ohhh and I’m worse During the Falcons/SEC games
Soph
December 2nd, 2010
7:54 pm
Alright, Soph!
Hmm, I don’t know how I feel about having the #1 baby name of 2010.
jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
7:54 pm
haha, like the mop in those Swiffer commercials
FEAR
December 2nd, 2010
7:54 pm
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
Braveheart
Funny stuff guys!!
jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
7:55 pm
Just messin, Tomahwkin
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a Go)
December 2nd, 2010
7:58 pm
Stocking stuffers indeed! So I guess Bill Hall would fit nicely in one of those?
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
7:58 pm
Jeffrey D
“No, that sorta thing happens….like when Francoeur was hitting .400 after the first couple weeks of this season”
Wow I forget about the Hype that was on here when that happened…
I’m suprised that the guys on 680TheFan don’t talk about him no more
Matty-Ice Is The Biggest name in The “A” nowadays…
jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
7:59 pm
Soph – I just wonder why it’s Sophia. I know on Friends when Ross and Rachel had Emma there was a huge spike in that name. And isn’t the girl in those Twilight books/movies named Isabella (2nd or 3rd on the list)
What’s Sophia from?
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
7:59 pm
“Braveheart
December 2nd, 2010
7:53 pm
“Just in talking to him, he said don’t forget about me for the future.”
Diaz is standing outside Frank Wren’s window with the boom box over his head, blasting “Don’t You Forget About Me” by Simple Minds:”
lol!
But not a fair analogy. That was probably Matt’s way of saying no hard feelings and he’d be happy to come back in the future if it works for both parties.
jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
7:59 pm
I don’t want to see Bill Hall in stockings
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
8:00 pm
Another Stupid Shoutout, Goes To Soph…
Its a reunion night up in here…! Where is RHR?
Speaking of Reunions…?
D.O.B. You need to throw a Charity Christmas Party…
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
8:02 pm
jeffrey d
‘I don’t want to see Bill Hall in stockings”
Co-Sign! That would be a lump of coal…
jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
8:02 pm
What’s the charity?
David O'Brien
December 2nd, 2010
8:02 pm
Xmas Jam Again: Saw your post about the Christmas Jam lineup on the other blog. If you’re here now, I’ll repeat what I said there. Sorry to be bearer of bad news, but Drive-By Truckers announced yesterday they’ve cancelled their Christmas Jam appearance Dec. 11 in Asheville. They’d already cancelled the rest of their European Tour, because several band members have been sick and Mike Cooley collapsed on stage last week from exhaustion and/or dehydration.
Still a killer lineup for the Jam. I always forget to plan ahead, and by the time you remind me (again) it’s too late to make plans. Anyway, I’m not getting back from Winter Meetings until Thursday night (Dec. 9), and we’re flying to New Orleans on Dec. 11 for a few days of relaxation. Might go see Robert Earl Keen in New Orleans Dec. 11. Definitely going to see some good music at Maple Leaf or Tipitina’s, and get some grub at Mother’s and Port of Call (definitely a burger with mushrooms at Port of Call).
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
8:05 pm
Coach (2011 Fredi G. a Go)
“Stocking stuffers indeed! So I guess Bill Hall would fit nicely in one of those?”
This Is The Beavis and Butthead in me, but Gawd That didn’t sound right…lol
Soph
December 2nd, 2010
8:07 pm
jeffrey, I have no idea. I knew the name was becoming more popular but I definitely wouldn’t have guessed it was the #1 name this year.
Yeah, one of the main characters in Twilight is Isabella or Bella.
FEAR
December 2nd, 2010
8:07 pm
yeah all the regulars tonight.
SoWeGa Fanatic
December 2nd, 2010
8:07 pm
You know, as big an optimist as I am, Bravos have a lot of what-if’s. What if FF doesn’t pan out for a couple of years, Chipper ain’t Chipper, Nate is the 2010 version,Prado actually can’t handle left field, etc. Course, I guess every team has it’s questions.
BravesFanChris26
December 2nd, 2010
8:07 pm
Our old friend Buddy Carlyle is now a Yankee. They signed him to a minor league deal.
Soph
December 2nd, 2010
8:08 pm
Hi T’hawkin. What’s with the names?
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
8:08 pm
E.I. E.I. UGGGHHHH OHHHHHH
D.O.B. Down in the Big Easy and on Bourbon Street?…I know you are going to be off the Chain Out There…
Rock On especially Since the Braves made the playoffs this year I know this has had to been your busiest season since 2005…
Drink those Shots of Liquid Cocaine for Me and all braves fans…!
jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
8:09 pm
Yeah, one of the main characters in Twilight is Isabella or Bella.
Which one is it, Tomahawkin?
Soph
December 2nd, 2010
8:09 pm
Well, they’re booing the crap out of Lebron in Cleveland. Figured that was gonna happen. I have to say the “Lyin King” t-shirt I saw with a pic of Lebron surrounded by a mane was pretty clever.
FEAR
December 2nd, 2010
8:10 pm
hahaha. yeah TH. What’s the scoop on Twilight?
Braveheart
December 2nd, 2010
8:10 pm
For position players who’ve played 500+ games as an Atlanta Brave since 1966, Matt Diaz had the 4th best batting average, 15th best OBP, 14th best OPS, 17th best OPS+, and 21st best WAR per plate appearance. A damn good Brave.
jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
8:10 pm
Too bad today wasn’t tomato day at the Q
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
8:11 pm
Soph…
I watched Clips from Next Friday on Youtube with Joker in them and he is hilarious so i had to use another alias…I will go back to T-Hawkin Saturday unless im in pain or something
P'cola Brave
December 2nd, 2010
8:12 pm
I’ll pass on Bill Hall in my stocking. Go ahead and slip Melvin Mora in mine.
SoWeGa Fanatic
December 2nd, 2010
8:12 pm
Braveheart
December 2nd, 2010
8:10 pm
For position players who’ve played 500+ games as an Atlanta Brave since 1966, Matt Diaz had the 4th best batting average, 15th best OBP, 14th best OPS, 17th best OPS+, and 21st best WAR per plate appearance. A damn good Brave.
******************
Wow. Sniff, I’m gonna miss the guy.
Jake W.
December 2nd, 2010
8:12 pm
Cleveland is a bit like a jilted lover tonight. Let them get it out there system this game then hopefully we can take a break from all this Cleveland hates Lebron stuff. We get it by now.
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
8:12 pm
Soph
“Well, they’re booing the crap out of Lebron in Cleveland. Figured that was gonna happen. I have to say the “Lyin King” t-shirt I saw with a pic of Lebron surrounded by a mane was pretty clever.”
If I were A Cavs/Browns/Indains Fan I would’ve Thrown Batteries at him…They are better than me
I love That Lyin King Nickname…!
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
8:13 pm
Soph
You going to any Falcons Games? Or have u been?
Jake W.
December 2nd, 2010
8:17 pm
If I were A Cavs/Browns/Indains Fan I would’ve Thrown Batteries at him…They are better than me
I wouldn’t have, players leave all the time, thats what free agency is about. If Cleveland fans had actually paid attention to Lebron over the years, they could have actually read the writing on the wall for this one. Him leaving wasn’t exactly a shocking development to me, it was him going to Miami to form basketballs version of voltron that surprised me.
SoWeGa Fanatic
December 2nd, 2010
8:17 pm
Matty D. on not being an everyday player: “[A] lot of people would think about the money they’re not making if they don’t play every day, but we all make enough money.”
I am really, really going to miss this guy.
Soph
December 2nd, 2010
8:17 pm
No, I haven’t been this season T’hawkin. I’ve only been to one Falcons game my whole life and it made me feel claustrophobic. I don’t like the Dome. The Falcons/Saints game would be a blast but it’s probably crazy expensive.
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
8:17 pm
jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
7:40 pm
[I hope They have me on one of those “Real Men of Genius” Radio Commercials one day…]
“Today we salute you, Mr. In-game overreactor
Mr. In-game overREACTORRR!”
Do You Care to Elaborate on what I would be like in that commercial?
And start with “Only You Can”?
Soph
December 2nd, 2010
8:18 pm
Cleveland’s being a tad bit dramatic, no? The opera music, 3 Musketeers slogan, etc.
jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
8:19 pm
Only you can declare a game lost, when your team has the lead
This ballgame is over!
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
8:20 pm
Soph
Co-Sign on Falcons games, not to mention the Tailgate experience Sucks from what I heard…
I heard The Food They Have at the Georgia Dome Is Garbage…
Soph
December 2nd, 2010
8:20 pm
or when they haven’t even played an inning yet
nolie
December 2nd, 2010
8:21 pm
show that to the Braves Bh. maybe they will still sign him
TexasBrave
December 2nd, 2010
8:26 pm
DOB or anyone else, do you know where one could find a list of all the players that were not tendered today?
Joker AKA Tomahawkin
December 2nd, 2010
8:27 pm
TexasBrave
Mlbtraderumors.com
I’m sure they have those on there
MiaBchBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
8:28 pm
If the Braves are willing to take a $5 million hit, then I agree with you, DOB.
Which beggars a good question: not counting option buyouts, or injuries during a contract, have the Braves eaten anything beyond $3 million in contract money on a players they have either released or traded in the past 10 years?
P'cola Brave
December 2nd, 2010
8:30 pm
TexasBrave
Mlbtraderumors.com has a running tracker.
P'cola Brave
December 2nd, 2010
8:31 pm
Now that Hinske is on board I can’t wait for next week. The winter meetings are the best part of the offseason.
Braveheart
December 2nd, 2010
8:39 pm
Meant to also include that Diaz had the 14th best SLG for position players who’ve played 500+ games as an Atlanta Brave since 1966
Braveheart
December 2nd, 2010
8:44 pm
players leave all the time, thats what free agency is about. If Cleveland fans had actually paid attention to Lebron over the years, they could have actually read the writing on the wall for this one. Him leaving wasn’t exactly a shocking development to me, it was him going to Miami to form basketballs version of voltron that surprised me.
yeah, it’s not like the whole world didn’t know he was gonna leave at least 2 years ago, and maybe even a year or two before that.
Braveheart
December 2nd, 2010
8:49 pm
What do they pay NBA coaches to do? A kindergartener could come up with an offense that consists of you stand over there by yourself with the ball, and the other 4 of you should stand on the other side of the court staring at the guy with the ball
VaBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
8:50 pm
Wonder if the Braves would be interested in Tony Gwynn who was non-tendered by the Padres. He would be a minor league deal type, make him eanr a job in spring traning. Plays CF and has good speed.
jeffrey d
December 2nd, 2010
8:51 pm
A kindergartener could come up with an offense that consists of you stand over there by yourself with the ball, and the other 4 of you should stand on the other side of the court staring at the guy with the ball
That’s like saying baseball is so easy because even a 5-year old can hit a ball with a stick
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
8:53 pm
Didn’t “Voltron” involve forming a unit? Has that happened yet with the Heat? Will it ever? And if it doesn’t, is that the coach’s fault? I’m reminded why I so prefer college basketball to the NBA.
Jake W.
December 2nd, 2010
8:57 pm
For the heat its really to early to tell how good they will be. I never jumped on the whole, “they’re gonna win 5 plus rings” bandwagon because you don’t win with a team on paper. You gotta put it together and so far they have yet to do it but I wouldn’t count them out already, not with all that talent. That young coach has got his work cut out for him.
MiaBchBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
8:59 pm
With all due respect to Matty D, if Hinske, with the season he had, is worth $1.45, then Matty is going to find getting that $2.55 mil a very tough proposition indeed.
If McLouth were not in the books, Matty would’ve had a better chance. Good luck, Mr. Diaz – you are a good man, and you will be missed.
David O'Brien
December 2nd, 2010
9:04 pm
Boog’s calling the KU-UCLA game from Lawrence, getting ready to start on ESPN2.
Crime Dog
December 2nd, 2010
9:08 pm
That’s like saying baseball is so easy because even a 5-year old can hit a ball with a stick
I had a long, drunken argument defending baseball coaches/managers to my college roommates. They claimed a manager essentially did nothing.
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
9:09 pm
“Jake W.
December 2nd, 2010
8:57 pm
For the heat its really to early to tell how good they will be. I never jumped on the whole, “they’re gonna win 5 plus rings” bandwagon because you don’t win with a team on paper. You gotta put it together and so far they have yet to do it but I wouldn’t count them out already, not with all that talent. That young coach has got his work cut out for him.”
Spot on about “you don’t win with a team on paper” (ask the Yankees!
) I don’t count the Heat out at all – they won it all a few years ago with less talent, didn’t they? (I have a sibling who is a Heat fan so . . . .)
Tom O'Hawke
December 2nd, 2010
9:11 pm
I had a long, drunken argument defending baseball coaches/managers to my college roommates. They claimed a manager essentially did nothing.
Crime Dog, you room with Robert?!
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
9:12 pm
“MiaBchBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
8:59 pm
. . . .
Good luck, Mr. Diaz – you are a good man, and you will be missed.”
Agreed.
Steve McP
December 2nd, 2010
9:14 pm
I once spent a couple of drunken hours in an airport lounge arguing with a colleague (who was not a sports fan) that the art and craft in something like top quality spin bowling in international cricket is akin to the art and craft of any artist in any aesthetic field.
It made perfect sense at the time and I believe I made a wonderful argument for the aesthetics of sport even though I was three sheets to the wind at the time.
A-Ville Ranger
December 2nd, 2010
9:15 pm
Hinske re-signing is a big deal. Many a good team has gone down for lack of a reliable bench. Hinske has proved he has what it takes to stay prepared and come thru in this role.
Crime Dog
December 2nd, 2010
9:16 pm
Tom O’Hawke-
Just reading that sentence made me me ill. I can’t imagine what that would be like.
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
9:17 pm
“David O’Brien
December 2nd, 2010
9:04 pm
Boog’s calling the KU-UCLA game from Lawrence, getting ready to start on ESPN2.”
Hey, a Boog sighting! Good luck to your Jayhawks, DOB! (Not that they probably need it!)
Tom O'Hawke
December 2nd, 2010
9:20 pm
Crime Dog
If just reading it made you ill, then don’t go any further.
Bat Masterson
December 2nd, 2010
9:20 pm
Bat…Those books in the same line as Girl With The Dragon Tattoo?
Danga _
Yes, the second and third.
Soph
December 2nd, 2010
9:20 pm
Save the luck for my Tarheels. They need it these days.
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
9:28 pm
“Soph
December 2nd, 2010
9:20 pm
Save the luck for my Tarheels. They need it these days.”
That would be like wishing Duke luck. Some things will just never happen.
Bigwheel
December 2nd, 2010
9:28 pm
ESPN has to put Boog in Joe Morgans sunday night baseball seat……
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
9:31 pm
Bigwheel – unless Boog was doing the game last night, too (I don’t think he was), ESPN didn’t do that. You’re right – they should have, if they didn’t!
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
9:36 pm
Vitale was doing the MSU-Duke game last night and congratulating the guy he was broadcasting with about getting the Sunday night MLB job. It wasn’t Boog.
Soph
December 2nd, 2010
9:37 pm
MIBravesFan – hey now, I was cheering for MSU last night. Kyrie Irving on Duke is gonna be a good one though.
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
9:41 pm
Soph – thanks for that!
But you would have been rooting against Duke anyway1 
Mikeyc588
December 2nd, 2010
9:43 pm
Tony Gwynn was non-tendered. Not a stick by any means, but the guy has a serious glove. Also, Bobby Jenks was non-tendered (though he might be looking for a closer’s role, despite coming off one of his worst seasons).
Soph
December 2nd, 2010
9:44 pm
MIBF – true, I guess I wasn’t really cheering for MSU – more like cheering against Duke.
The Sunday night team on ESPN is gonna be Dan Schulman, Orel Herschiser (sP?), and Bobby Valentine (yuck).
MIBravesFan
December 2nd, 2010
9:46 pm
Good to see Bat on the blog when I’m on here – haven’t for a while. And always good to see Tom O’Hawke.