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DS1
November 30th, 2010
1:46 am
ward
We already have our leadoff guys in Prado, McLouth and long shot Schafer. Ain’t gonna be no speedy additions, unless you consider Hinske and Diaz speedy!
nolie
November 30th, 2010
1:47 am
I think he might run a bit more than Bobby did, which is not necessarily a good thing with limited speed guys. Hey and McN might get a few more opportunities.
ward
November 30th, 2010
1:48 am
I Hope it’s Prado in the lead off then.
DS1
November 30th, 2010
1:48 am
ward
Actually, I’d rather lobby for some outstanding Q or fish tacos or some chile verde!
DS1
November 30th, 2010
1:49 am
How ya been nolie? We haven’t talked much lately. Hope your health is getting back on track for ya.
ward
November 30th, 2010
1:49 am
I don’t consider Hinske , and Diaz speedy, and not Mcouth, but would rather have Hinkse.
ward
November 30th, 2010
1:50 am
Florida does have good fish!
bravesfan4ever
November 30th, 2010
1:54 am
I think the we should sign them both.(Hinske,Diaz) What ever it takes to get them on the roster. they both deserve it. If not, it could come back and bite the braves later on. Hinske can help Freeman at 1st. Maybe Diaz can finally get a shot at left field.
DS1
November 30th, 2010
1:58 am
Just kidding about speedy Hinske and Diaz. McLouth had a good SB percentage with Pittsburgh. That is more important to me than quantity. As nolie states, a SB isn’t all it’s cracked up to be sometimes.
ward
I googled a place called Barbara Jeans that looks interesting. But when they start talking about “upscale” and “fine dining” then I get turned off pretty quick.
Doc Holiday
November 30th, 2010
1:59 am
nolie,
At this point braves dont need anymore pop……….hey……this lineup is really good.
A very good leadoff man would make this team unstoppable.
CF good leadoff hitter with lots of speed
LF Martin
3B Chipper
2B Uggla
C Mc
RF Jason
SS Alex
1B Freeman
Man when your 7th and 8th hitter are Alex and Freeman you know you lineup is good.
I personally think right now Blanco is a better option than McLouth. He has a .358 lifetime OBP. in 836 ABs. Thats not a decade, but thats enough ABs to tell he knows how to get on base.
That lifetime OBP. (Blanco) would have ranked 4th among NL CF last season, behind Gonzales (COL), McCutchen and Rasmus. Thats good enough to me. Just for you to get the idea. Last season Infante had a .359 OBP and Prado had .350. Thats how good Blancos .358 is.
McCanns lifetime OBP is .360.
Furcals lifetime OBP is .351
Otis Nixon .343
Brett Butler .377
ward
November 30th, 2010
2:01 am
DS1: Very… Very…. funny stuff!!!!!
Doc Holiday
November 30th, 2010
2:02 am
DS1,
Nate best SB total is 22. Thats way to low for guy that has speed. A high % with low quantity could mean the runner only runs on pitchers even their grandma´s would steal a base to. I agree % is important, but quantity is as important.
DS1
November 30th, 2010
2:03 am
nolie
Any decent beaches along the gulf in FL that are a decent bargain these days? (in case my ship comes in!)
Doc Holiday
November 30th, 2010
2:04 am
A guy with 20 SB in a season is not going to drive any defense crazy.
ward
November 30th, 2010
2:05 am
Maybe Nate will suprise us? Just a Maybe????
Doc Holiday
November 30th, 2010
2:07 am
Just to let you know, ever Chipper once stole 25 bases. Compare to Nate´s best (22).
And to make Nate look even worse………Terry Pendleton stole 24 in 1986. That should tell you how good of a stealer Nate is.
ward
November 30th, 2010
2:08 am
Prado could steal about 40 base?, If we could find another out fielder who could match that? The Braves could have balance in the out field…..
reckingball
November 30th, 2010
2:09 am
You never fully understood the reasoning as to why Cox stopped platooning Diaz and Hinske in left field.
I never could understand the reasoning for a lot of the moves that Cox made, during his many years with the Braves.
Doc Holiday
November 30th, 2010
2:10 am
ward,
enough surprises from Nate. I couldnt take any more surprises.
DS1
November 30th, 2010
2:10 am
Doc
Gotta disagree with ya on the whole speed thing. We just need hitters at the top of the order who can get on base at a high rate. Chipper, Heyward, Prado (not overly high, but still hits well), etc.
Speed and stolen bases are way overrated in my humble opinion. If you had somebody with those attributes, that would be excellent. But we don’t need to go out and search for one when we have a 6.5 million dollar option for CF on our roster, who WILL get every opportunity to steal his 20-25 bases next year.
We went to the playoffs with 1 guy with over 10 steals, if memory serves me correctly.
Doc Holiday
November 30th, 2010
2:14 am
DS1,
Barely made it, early exit.
Speed is not a must but is sure makes a team more balanced and complete.
Doc Holiday
November 30th, 2010
2:14 am
is= it
Ron Hyatt
November 30th, 2010
2:15 am
Now if we can just be Chipper free by design instead of default, things might go well this year. Retire already, gimpy!
Doc Holiday
November 30th, 2010
2:17 am
Going to bed
ward
November 30th, 2010
2:19 am
I agree with Doc! The Braves need speed.I will talk to you tomrrow!!! I got a couple of Play Station 3 games I bought! Infamous, and Red Dead Redemption. I’m going to play them in a few minutes. “Go!!! Braves!!!.”
DS1
November 30th, 2010
2:19 am
There were 26 players in all of major league baseball last year who stole over 25 bases. 17 players stole over 30 bases.
The Braves had Heyward with 11, and 3 players with 7 each. Two are gone. McLouth was the third one.
We don’t need Brett Gardner or CoCo Crisp. We got our masher. Let’s let the hand play out next year.
DS1
November 30th, 2010
2:23 am
Doc
Barely made it (injuries down the stretch kept us from winning more convincingly). Early exit: can you say Prado, Conrad and Wagner?
If Prado doesn’t go down, Conrad doesn’t start at second base. Glaus doesn’t play at third. Wagner probably doesn’t strain his oblique trying to avoid Glaus.
Now, we’d have probably got our azzes kicked against the Phillies, but who knows???
Speed didn’t hurt us this year like a lack of pop and injuries did.
I’m off to bed too. Later folks.
nolie
November 30th, 2010
3:11 am
At this point braves dont need anymore pop……….hey……this lineup is really good. DOC
I said the pressing need was pop, I agree that with Uggly trade that is not so much needed now. but he ain’t gonna spend for a starting CFer most likely. So he more or less says and so I believe. If they do pick up another OFer then I agree that speed would be pleasant, but a speedy CFer with a decent enough OBP to be a satisfactory leadoff hitter would almost certainly cost more than Wren is gonna have available. I simply fail to see a lot of sense in insisting that they should get something that they are unlikely to be able to afford. Davis might have been a good addition but he is gone. The combination of speed, good OBP and decent defense is not usually a cheap commodity.
nolie
November 30th, 2010
3:28 am
all that speed scares the defenders is an old wive’s tale. If it were true teams that lead the league in steals would also lead the league in runs scored, and that does not usually happen. It’s nice to have if the other skills are there in a player too, but the speedy ones who are cheap enough to pick up now are usually lacking in other skills , often the ability to get on base enough to make the speed a real asset. I’ll take a guy with a good OBP over a speedy guy who can’t get on very much every time at leadoff and second both.
mowreck
November 30th, 2010
3:41 am
TennesseePaul: “The Girl that kicked the Hornets Nest” doesn’t come out on video until January 25. I have the other two DVDs, “dragon tatoo” and “played with fire”. I have the “Hornets Nest” BOOK. But don’t know how you could have seen that movie. I have it on order from Amazon.
mowreck
November 30th, 2010
3:42 am
Anybody that hasn’t seen those movies, they will make the hair stand up on your neck. Great!
Jake
November 30th, 2010
5:38 am
I say we stay with A GREAT young rookie named Cody Johnson or Try out Jordan Schafer again?Anybody Agree?
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2010
6:26 am
I think Adam Dunn is a necessity at first base.– bravesfanbob
Well, it ain’t happening.
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2010
6:31 am
Martini Is Our Number 2 hitter by default…He is the 2010 version of Placido Polanco in his prime but with more power
The only way Martini Leads off is if Nate Dawg has another garbage April — Chef Tomahawkin
That’s not how Fredi G. viewed it as of a couple weeks ago. He said after the Uggla signing that most of his lineups had Prado hitting leadoff and McLouth batting second. That’s if McLouth is hitting, of course. If he had a terrible spring, I’m fairly certain the lineup would look different at the top.
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2010
6:35 am
Are Drive By Truckers thug people that ride by and shoot pedestrians ? You know like drive by shooters in da hood ? — Harry Nurtz
In your cerebral analogy, wouldn’t Drive-By Truckers run over pedestrians, or otherwise “truck” them?
ChrisInPittsburgh
November 30th, 2010
6:53 am
I don’t know about anyone else, but I think Ryan Theriot makes a lot of sense as a utility infielder, replacing Omar.
Thoughts?
steve whitmire
November 30th, 2010
7:03 am
Wren gets to get it together and sign Diaz and Hinske, these two guys can hit a ton, what’s the hangup, break out the checkbook cheapskate!
Russell Bell
November 30th, 2010
7:49 am
Its not like Wren’s spending his own money. He has a budget to maintain that is funded by someone else. He can’t just ‘open the checkbook.’ That’s what owners do, not GMs.
ajj
November 30th, 2010
7:57 am
DOB what ever happened to Willy Taveras? Didn’t we sign him to a minor league deal this June/July?
Aaron
November 30th, 2010
8:00 am
Any idea if the Braves are one of the 8 teams that have inquired about Bill Hall? Seems like he would fit in quite well in Atlanta. Also could we see Martin take some reps at short in case of emergency?
Eric from MO
November 30th, 2010
8:21 am
Stealing a base is probably one of the most exciting things in baseball to watch, right up there with walk-off homerun and a base-loaded save, however other than that not much there. I think fans think it wins alot of games because they are exciting. The player either moves up without a ball put in play, or he is thrown out without the ball put in play. Its fast, which is rare in baseball unlike basketball and football where there are many bang-bang plays. However with all that said stolen bases has very little to do with winning. I will take a high OBP guy over a guy with stolen base potential. I also will take a doubles hitter over a stolen base guy. You see far more guys getting thrown out trying to steal a base than trying to get a double. Also a double hitter has a better chance to drive in baserunners than a single hitter who can steal bases. But then again a stolen base is more exciting than a double.
Bama Brave
November 30th, 2010
8:34 am
If this is all we added was UGGLA is good BUT we didnt do nothing for our outfield.
ncscoots
November 30th, 2010
8:35 am
However with all that said stolen bases has very little to do with winning.
Or scoring. In only one offensive scenario per inning does a stolen base to put a runner in scoring position actually affect the inning’s offensive outcome: when the stealing baserunner is the only run to score in the inning. In all other offensive scenarios for the inning, the stolen base is moot (the runner did not score or would have scored without the stolen base). Balance that against the risk of both removing a baserunner AND giving up an out (the combination of which drastically reduces the run expectancy of the inning), and one can see that stealing just ain’t all that important to creating runs.
Doesn’t mean that there aren’t situations in which the risk isn’t worth the candle, at all. There are, just as there situations in which a bunt, or a hit-and-run, or some of the other blog faves, is a valid tactic. Just can’t confuse the use of a tactic with actual offensive startegy, that’s all. The “need for speed” is a purely bloggian creation.
richbrave
November 30th, 2010
8:42 am
ERIC IN RENSSELAER, N.Y.
To answer from previous post…….Not been to a squirrels game to date, but I suppose I’ll quit holding my breath and relent this season.
coachx
November 30th, 2010
9:10 am
LOVE the DBT reference ! Good ole’ Southern Rock with Patterson Hood and the boys. Cooley rocks !
Arkansas Transplant
November 30th, 2010
9:10 am
ChrisInPittsburgh
November 30th, 2010
6:53 am
Must have read my post yesterday? I totally agree with Theriot as someone off the bench.
Jake
November 30th, 2010
5:38 am
Sorry Jake, but there is no Cody here.
DaveFromDallas(NC)
November 30th, 2010
9:11 am
Thanks DOB for correcting posters on where Nate McLouth is going to be positioned in the batting order. I thought I remembered Fredi Gonzalez saying he’d hit second. Of course, I don’t know which is worse: McLouth being the table setter at the top of the order or McLouth trying to advance a runner when he can’t make contact a lot of the time. Either way, McLouth has got to get back to the pre-2010 McLouth or Frank Wren will have to address that without it being another Rick Ankiel.
Arkansas Transplant
November 30th, 2010
9:12 am
And as much as a pipe dream this may be, I’d like to see either Jacoby Ellsbury or Cody Rasmus in CF.
DAP
November 30th, 2010
9:14 am
Hey Matt Diaz….”Find A Clue!!”
ncscoots
November 30th, 2010
9:15 am
McLouth trying to advance a runner when he can’t make contact a lot of the time.
McLouth has never struck out 100 times in a season.
(though he might well have last year, given enough appearances, LOL)
VOR
November 30th, 2010
9:16 am
Bama Brave, November 30th, 2010, 8:34 am, If this is all we added was UGGLA is good BUT we didnt do nothing for our outfield.
Uh… how about we added a LF who hit .307, drove in 65 and scored 85 runs while making his first All-Star appearance, and was the undisputed catalyst for his team who made the playoffs for the first time in 5 years?
DaveFromDallas(NC)
November 30th, 2010
9:16 am
Arkansas, I would love Ellsbury more than Rasmus. That’s just my preference because I like some of the tools he has. As much as I would love it, I don’t see it happening. My big thing continues to be that Frank Wren knows he won in the Dan Uggla trade. He didn’t give up premium prospects to get the big bat he needed. He won’t give them up for CF either.
Richard Dawson
November 30th, 2010
9:21 am
Diaz: Amiable? God first? Give me a break. Not sure which god this “amiable” character is worshipping, but he lost a fan for life when he blew off my 10-year old son in pre-game last season. The guy is a plague. The problem with you beat writers (or whatever you are, amateur musician, hard to tell) is that you get emotionally invested in these losers. Diaz was a BACKUP IN KC! He’s a nobody. He’s a platoon OF of which there are dozens and dozens. His stats are only as good (mediocre) as they are because he faces mostly lefties. We don’t need him, and furthermore, we don’t want him. Furthermore, his outfield defense is worse than Jeff Burroughs. CUT HIM LOOSE.
NOBreggie4Dogs
November 30th, 2010
9:22 am
nolie – where do YOU hit JHey this season ?
NOBreggie4Dogs
November 30th, 2010
9:27 am
scoots – unless baserunner has extremely high % SB then statistically it tips point in favor of said speed in analogous lineup
Heisenberg
November 30th, 2010
9:27 am
I wish the guys at Wikileaks would do something useful and post hot-stove documents.
Diaz has been listed before as the 3rd emergency catcher and has filled in occasionally at 1B. So he could have value in those roles, especially as a right-handed occasional 1B to spell FF against tough lefties. With the signing of Mather & moving Prado to LF the outfield gets a bit crowded. But if Chipper has problems and misses time which moves Prado to 3B, then he is needed for OF depth (at the right price).
Nick 'n Nash
November 30th, 2010
9:28 am
I know it’s happened before, so I really hope it happens again. Nate will rebound and have a good-great season and the Braves will tender his 2012 option. Bank on it. Well….at least hope for it..
NOBreggie4Dogs
November 30th, 2010
9:29 am
BAMA Brave – our OF gota lot better because an 850 OPS guy (Prado) is playing LF and is getting stronger at the dish each year, plus a full year of a healthy Heyward and hopefully a SEP ‘10 version of Nate and we look much better…. 3B/1B production is the ??
JeanE
November 30th, 2010
9:35 am
Thanks for mentioning MattE D, DOB (hey, a rhyme!). I am in the minority that want MattE back over Hinske. I’m praying Hinkse signs with his hometown team. I am sick at the idea of Diaz as a Philly but I will root for him wherever, he is such a great guy! It makes me sick that we might lose him, Frank Wren is a bonehead. This guy can still be vital to this team, in LF or pinching, wherever. Bring MattE back!!!!!!!!!!
P-Town Brave ©
November 30th, 2010
9:37 am
?
Is there really any way that the Braves get both Hinske AND Diaz back?
I don’t see the money there, but if possible, that would be a luxury.
ncscoots
November 30th, 2010
9:38 am
But if Chipper has problems and misses time which moves Prado to 3B
I know I’ve said this before, but, I really, really hope that there’s a bench acquisition who can handle 1B and 3B. I’m not in favor of juggling Prado back and forth, at all. Some here think that going to LF is a piece of cake, but that’s dangerous thinking. Moving a player around irregularly from IF to OF just isn’t a great idea, if it can be helped.
Buckeye Brave
November 30th, 2010
9:39 am
How would Dexter Fowler look in center? Sounds like Diamondbacks on the market in exchange for a pitcher. Might solve our speed and centerfield issue.Only downside is he’s a Boras client.
Frank Ren
November 30th, 2010
9:40 am
We need someone that can play 3rd too. Do we only have Chipper and Prado?
bambooman
November 30th, 2010
9:42 am
Mike Cooley is to the left of Patterson Hood.
Frank Stimpy
November 30th, 2010
9:44 am
3B has lacked depth, and continues to do so. Nothing much past Chipper and Martin…
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2010
9:45 am
Diaz has been listed before as the 3rd emergency catcher and has filled in occasionally at 1B. — Heisenberg
Entering the offseason I thought about Diaz as a backup 1B, too. But Braves officials haven’t mentioned him as a possibility, which tells me they probably don’t think much of his ability at the position. Diaz has only played 1B twice in games, for a total of 2-2/3 innings, and that was in 2007. They’ve had ample situations where they needed a pinch 1B since then, and haven’t turned to him once. So again, tells me he’s not viewed as much of an option there. As for emergency catching, teams have to use one so rarely — not even once in most seasons — that it just doesn’t seem like a big consideration in personnel decisions.
Richard Dawson
November 30th, 2010
9:48 am
Chipper hasn’t played 3B (adequately), well, ever. Still remember the Rockies game at the end of the season around ‘00 or ‘01 where he let one go through his legs to blow the game and home-field advantage in the playoffs. Among many other errors. Are his 55 errors at SS in one season at Richmond still the all-time record? Talk about a one-dimensional player, and now, zero-dimensional. I would rather see Junior Moore or Pat Rockett at 3B.
Richard Dawson
November 30th, 2010
9:48 am
Or Sugar Bear Blanks.
JeanE
November 30th, 2010
9:49 am
Oh and excuse me, MattE D only made 2 errors in LF last year, that is not craptastic by any definition of the word. So there!!!
Hillbilly
November 30th, 2010
9:49 am
Season finale of Sons of Anarchy tonight. Looks like the “rat” storyline might be the main topic of interest leading into season 4. Ought to be an intersting night.
DAP
November 30th, 2010
9:52 am
tomahawkin Our Bench was very overlooked last year…Probably the best bench we have had since maybe 1999? Check Me if I’m Wrong?
yes we had a good bench, but no, they were not overlooked. we had an all-star over there.
Arkansas Transplant
November 30th, 2010
9:55 am
Don’t forget The Walking Dead season finale.
Heisenberg
November 30th, 2010
9:57 am
Thanx DOB. If that is the case then there is not room for Diaz. In addition to Phully, my guess is Marlins or Rays would also be a good fit.
FWIW Dextor Fowler, Chirs Young, Matt Kemp would be better options than Nate for CF. Then again me winning the lottery would be a better option than going to work every day. Which is more likely?
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2010
10:01 am
If this is all we added was UGGLA is good BUT we didnt do nothing for our outfield — Bama Brave
You added a 30-homer, 95-RBI man to the middle of the batting order, and he plays second base. So you move to left field the guy who was probably the team MVP in 2010, Martin Prado, a very versatile guy who has played solid outfield defense in winter ball in the past, say those who’ve seen him there.
So what’s the difference than if the Braves had traded for a 30-homer, 95-RBI outfielder this winter and kept Prado at 2B? Offensively, at least, the move would have been exactly the same. Right?
So it comes down to defense, and we’ll just have to wait to see if the Braves are better, worse or similar to last year. My guess is they’ll be better defensively (and obviously better offensively) in left field than they have been for a few years, and not as good defensively at 2B than they were with Prado, but better than they were there with Kelly Johnson.
Also, consider how many 30-homer, 95-RBI outfielders were available, outfielders with the consistent offensive production Uggla’s had in his five major league seasons? If there were any, chances are they’d have cost a helluva lot more in a trade — multiple young players and/or prospects — than what the Braves gave up for Uggla. And the scant free-agent outfielders available with anywhere close to that level of production, would have cost far more in long-term contracts than the Braves would spend.
DAP
November 30th, 2010
10:02 am
bamabrave If this is all we added was UGGLA is good BUT we didnt do nothing for our outfield.
im not sure if you quite understand what happend.
because of the uggla trade, we not have two allstars in the outfield. one of them was an all star 2ndbaseman, but still, an all star.
dpelfrey
November 30th, 2010
10:03 am
It was 56 errors at A-ball Macon. But Chipper’s defense has improved a lot over his career. He’s no Rolen, but he’s no Sandoval either.
unbelievable
November 30th, 2010
10:05 am
DOB, I know that the Braves have had their eyes set on Mather for a couple of years now. However, whats their plan if he has a very poor spring. Dude’s got potential sure, but he hasnt really proven anything yet. Maybe he’ll be the next Ludwick, but outside of his 2007/2008 MILB stats he hasnt impressed at all. He did follow up those two seasons with a .573OPS in the minors in 2009, was he injured? Seems like a bad idea to let Diaz walk when he’ll stick around for $2 mil and just take a chance with this guy.
unbelievable
November 30th, 2010
10:07 am
” we didnt do nothing for our outfield.” – bamabrave
does that mean we did something?
ajj
November 30th, 2010
10:09 am
What happens when are All star LF’er is playing 3rd base most of the season?
CB
November 30th, 2010
10:10 am
I think the idea of getting Dexter Fowler is not bad,give you a few more options of how to use the lineup.Platoon option wirh Nate,better defensively with a decent OBP and still young enough to get better.
DAP
November 30th, 2010
10:11 am
i think there may be room for both diaz and hinske, but i dont know if the braves view it the way i do.
to me, if hinske is signed, he takes brooks conrad’s spot. lefty pop off the bench. i know conrad switch hits and plays infield, but he isnt much of an infielder and does most of his damage lefthanded.
so, if you sign hinske, and leave off conrad, you have ross, hinkse, and three question marks. it leaves room for your middle infield utility (3rd, SS, 2nd) a defensive outfielder who can play all three spots, and lefty killer matt diaz.
i dont know if the money available will allow it, but you could have ross, hinske, diaz, mather, and henandez, and let conrad get the first call if someone goes down.
unbelievable
November 30th, 2010
10:12 am
DAP, can Mather play CF effectively?
dpelfrey
November 30th, 2010
10:14 am
And Derek Jeter also had 56 errors in A-ball. I think he’s won a few gold gloves since.
Career minor league fielding percentage at shortstops:
Chipper Jones – .931
Rafael Furcal – .933
Derek Jeter – .934
Edgar Renteria – .942
Elvis Andrus – .943
Lew
November 30th, 2010
10:14 am
It wasn’t speed that kept us from winnuing 100 games last year – it was not hitting a single with runners in scoring position or the bases loaded.
Wouldn’t mind jhaving Hinske back, but wouldn’t be overly yuoset if he’s a Brewer, either. Like someone said earlier – he won’t make or break this team.
David O'Brien
November 30th, 2010
10:15 am
ajj: Mather is an option. Hinske will be, if signed. Diaz could be a part-time option, if they tender him. Moving McLouth to LF is an option, if the Braves have another CF (Schafer? Young? A winter pickup?). But it’s still so early, and so many things can happen. The Braves obviously need to strengthen their bench, and have said as much. Wren lists bench and bullpen as the remaining needs.
We haven’t even had the Winter Meetings yet; it’s not like there isn’t ample time to add another backup outfielder. How many other significant moves have even been made in baseball so far this winter, other than the Uggla trade?
Lew
November 30th, 2010
10:16 am
dpelfrey- I’d bet that the infield at Luther Williams Field in Macon had something to do with Chipper and Fokkie’s lousy Fldg% in the minors. It was notoriously terrible.
Nova Scotia Steve
November 30th, 2010
10:19 am
I think we may need to get the people at Wikileaks to “investigate” baseball’s 2010/2011 Hot Stove – that’ll get some juicy gossip churning.
Or at least expose a rumor or two I’m sure….:D
DAP
November 30th, 2010
10:20 am
unbelieveable, could be wrong, but from what i understand, mather plays all three outfield spots, 1st and 3rd.
ajj
November 30th, 2010
10:26 am
I’m not being critical of the the Ugla trade at all or being critical of the lack of any other significant move being that it is early in the off season, I’m just saying to assume that our outfield is going to consist of Prado for the majority of the season is the Best Case Scenario and not the most Likely one.
Jacoby Ellsbury
November 30th, 2010
10:26 am
I want to play centerfield as an Atlanta Brave !
Nick 'n Nash
November 30th, 2010
10:26 am
buckeye braves fan – not sure if you know this or not, but dexter fowler plays for the rockies, and with his upside it would cost a lot to get him….so doubtful
DaveFromDallas(NC)
November 30th, 2010
10:27 am
Dexter Fowler? Diamondbacks? Did I miss something?
Not a Hall of Fame without Dale Murphy
November 30th, 2010
10:27 am
Dave what is your take on the Uggla trade? It seems like the Marlins got held up at gun point. Was there that little interest in 30 HR 2nd baseman that they could not get anyone to better the Braves offer? The two draft picks after next season are close in value to Omar and Dunn. I thought for certain any trade would have to be for at least 3 players, one of whom is a top prospect. Please share your insight especially since you used to cover the Marlins.
dingo ate my baby
November 30th, 2010
10:28 am
DOB
NYE – who you going to see?
Lew
November 30th, 2010
10:32 am
Jacoby – Good for you. Try playig a season without injury first and maybe they might consider it. Need to find out if your injuries are chronic or you’re just a wimp. Tiom Glavine pitched games with broken ribs and didnt miss 143 games.
DaveFromDallas(NC)
November 30th, 2010
10:34 am
I have a deal proposal: Trade one of the Braves’ young prospect pitchers; Receive: CF who hits .260, 6 HR, 36 RBI, 13 SB. What do you think? That’s what you would get if you dealt for Dexter Fowler. Somewhat resembles what we already have or could get from Matt Young or Jordan Schafer, doesn’t it?
Redneck Ricks
November 30th, 2010
10:38 am
Okay DOB. That all sounds pretty good. But what about CF ? I mean Nate is a liability out there. What team has a .186 hitting starting CF ? Not even the lowly Pirates,Royals,or Astros. Who cares if Nate is owed $6 million this year ? Just consider it a bad move just like the KK signing and move on. Relying on Nate to return to Pirates form is not good enough. The Pirates must have knew something by trading his sorry azza ?
Lew
November 30th, 2010
10:38 am
Not a HOF without Dale – I heard an analysis of what the Marlins did so far this winter and looking at it from that point, it makes sense.
The Marlins needed someone to play second – they traded for an All Star who hit over .300. They needed another starter – they ot Javy Vazquez, who they wouldn’t have had the $$$ for with Uggla on the team.
The Marlins needed relief pitching – Dunn gave upo runs in (I believe) one game last year and showed much promise, especially if he tones down the walks – anyway, a definite improvement to their pen.
The Marlins needed catching – They signed JOhn BUck and would not have had the $$$$ to do so with Uggla on the team, eating their paltry salary.
So for Uggla and a loss of some power, offset a fair amount with Omar;s versatility and offense, they got an All Star, an up and coming relief pitcher, a #4 starter with the potential to have another 09-like season and a good catcher.
Not bad, actually.
RC
November 30th, 2010
10:39 am
DaveFromDallas(NC),
Don’t forget phenomenal defense with Fowler. I don’t think there is much chance of Colorado trading him though…having a guy with his speed is a necessity with the size of their OF.
WatchEmEveryNight_Fans
November 30th, 2010
10:40 am
DOB: Who is playing Winter Ball and where?
We hope we can keep Eric AND Mattie for 2011.