P’cola I have metioned Thames last off season and was ridiculed. I think he could be a nice fit. not an everyday player but can play LF when CJ needs a rest and I believe he has played sparingly at 1st with Detroit
December 1st, 2010
7:02 pm
Hinske shminske. Nate shmate.
Gimme Matt Young playing like he is in Winter ball, Mather producing anywhere near his potential, and a solid veteran reliever and call it a day.
David O’Brien
December 1st, 2010
7:07 pm
I like how so many people here suggest getting this guy and that and “calling it a day,” or signing this one and trading for that one and “let’s play ball.”
This means you MURPH. The “let’s play ball” line reminds of “The THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR.” with PIERCE BROSNAN.
if the star wackers get to nate mclouth before the season, kill him and make it look like a suicide or overdose (their m.o., see david carradine & heath ledger), do we still have to pay his contract? isnt suicide a form of professional retirement?
I’m a little (or a lot) behind on my reading…just made a list of about a dozen books by my favorite authors that I have not read yet…glad Christmas is coming up so I can afford to buy some
Some of us understand the budgetary constraints the Braves face. I, for one, am a pragmatist, and know when to push myself away from the table of gluttony and greed.
I would gamble and take a chance on Scott Proctor as my veteran presence in the bullpen. That said, if we garner ONE vet reliever of merit, my Braves’ cup would runneth over.
Yeah cab, books make great gifts. I have not been reading as much as normal this year, for any number of reasons. Even so I have read quite a few good books, it’s just that normally one might consider me an obsessive reader. I renewed my Barnes and Nobles card the other day and picked up a few books. I have one of those lifetime Gold discount cards from Books a Million, they stopped giving those out years ago, probably because of people like me.
I have a Nook e-reader, which is great because the books are usually a lot cheaper to buy that way- I usually get at least one gift card at Christmas (fingers crossed…) I used to read a lot more then I do now (VJ’s fault )- probably a book and a half a week depending on length…
There is one thing most will agree on. When it comes to intangibles such as clubhouse chemistry, leadership, charisma and all around talent….the Braves cannot replace Eric Hinske. Two years seems like such a no brainer when weighing the risk versus reward.
I have not tried an e reader, though I know they are convenient and cheaper. I’ve heard good thing about them, but I love the feel and smell of a book. That said, considering the number of books here the space saving might be helpful.
I read pretty much anything, biography, social sciences, political, historical and most kinds of novels. One reason I read so many books is because I will read what some might consider junk. What might be called chick lit, because I get a kick out of the community aspect, mysteries, whatever …….. Some people veg out with mindless TV, I do so with certain novels. I came across a south Florida author a while back that writes mysteries and picked one up, it was pretty decent and one of the first in a series of 15 or 16. So I went back, got them all and read them over a week last year. It beats yelling at the idiots on the TV news.
Nothing beats the smell of book but the ability to carry 100 books in my purse at once is kinda nice too I love biographies, mysteries, sci-fi, historical mysteries, pretty much anything but romance novels I have often discovered new authors simply by wondering around the bookstore for hours, picking up anything that looks semi-interesting and seeing if the description holds my attention. If it does, I usually end up reading the entire series (I like series- I find reading stories with people I’ve already met like seeing an old friend again- that may sound cheesy, but it’s true )
Nerwbie C WILKIN CASTILLO’s spirits seem to be lifted by his BRAVE-ness along with his BA. He gets his first triple of the fall session as he goes 1-3, 1 3B, 3 RBI (17), 1 SO, .279 BA.
MEXICO
Full slate. Games just underway. 2B JOE THURSTON 0-1, 1 SO top of the first.
PUERTO RICO
No BRAVE played today.
VENEZUELA
Full slate tonight.
SS LUIS ‘THE LIBERATOR’ BOLIVAR 0-2, .230 BA.
LH/RP LUIS AVILAN is dusted early tonight not even recording an out before being lifted for a second reliefer. His line: 0.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 6.92 ERA.
(I like series- I find reading stories with people I’ve already met like seeing an old friend again- that may sound cheesy, but it’s true )
Ha, it does not sound chessy to me, I know what you mean. I love to browse the book store and find new authors to read. I have a cousin that is one of those guys that never reads buy one day a couple of years ago he told me had read something and liked it, some he probably should have read in high school or something I can’t remember what. Anyway he ask me if Grapes of Wrath was good, so I said “well yeah”. When I talked to him not long after and asked how it was, he said it was slow, real slow and I thought uh oh.
I told him to read some other Steinbeck, ” Of Mice and Men” or something, but he said, no I’m going to finish it. Well I felt bad about it, I mean I should have thought about it before I said, yeah read it. Okay, “Grapes” was fine with me but still Steinbeck wrote that for the literati, measuring himself against Thomas Wolfe or something and I should never had said, yeah read it, to a guy that does not love to read.
Damn long story, sorry. I went to the bookstore to find him a copy of “Mice and Men” and came across ” We Need To talk About Kevin” by Lionel Shriver, a great book and an author new to me. Serendipity ……………… As far as I know he never finished Grapes, nor read another book.
Braveheart – yeah, well…if the Braves would’ve beat the Giants, and went onto play the Phils and went to the WS and won that….the fact he’d sucked for the last 19 weeks of season, would’ve been forgotten…(LOL) especially if the Braves would’ve won that game (Game 4? against the Giants) Hinske hit the HR to put them ahead before everything went to %$#@ in the top of the 9th.
I’ve got a couple of Rule 5 questions for you. Why didn’t the Braves protect LH starter Scott Diamond on their 40-man roster? I know he doesn’t have the greatest stuff, but they have no lefty starters in the majors, and he got all the way up to AAA last year (almost guaranteeing he’ll be picked).
Also, why don’t the Braves ever choose players in the Rule 5 draft, even at the minor league level? It should be one of the most cost effective ways for them to add depth to thin areas in their overall system (such as righty power bats,lefty starters, and speed).
According to what I’ve gleaned from Baseball America’s scouting of players available in the Rule 5 draft, Marquez Smith (3B from the Cubs AAA club) and Brandon Waring (3B/1B from the Orioles’ AA club) could either be worth it to be picked by the Braves. Below are their scouting reports:
• Marquez Smith, 3b, Cubs: At 25, Smith isn’t going to get much better, but he’s a useful reserve infielder with some thump in his bat. He had a huge second half at Triple-A Iowa (.347/.406/.682) and has bat speed, which gives him acceptable power. Defensively, he fits best at third but has some experience at second base as well. His profile would be helped greatly if he ran better or batted lefthanded, but his winter showing in Venezuela—he hit five home runs in his first 76 at-bats—could get him popped.
• Brandon Waring, 3b/1b, Orioles: It’s odd that a farm system that’s quite thin, such as Baltimore’s, has some intriguing talent available. It almost seems as if the O’s are cleaning house, or they’re in for a repeat of Pittsburgh’s 2003 Rule 5 experience, when the Pirates lost five of the first six players selected, including Jose Bautista (whom they traded to get back). Waring doesn’t have great tools and fits better defensively at first base than third, but he has excellent power and has produced at the Double-A level. The 24-year-old hit .242/.338/.458 with 22 homers, 32 doubles and 179 strikeouts at Bowie in 2010. He led the EL in strikeouts.
If Hinske had been able to play first, third, or left, alot of problems would have been solved. We had to endure Glaus stinking up the joint, Glaus playing third in the playoffs, Conrad playing second in the playoffs, and Melky Cabrera all because Hinske has eaten himself out of capably fielding those positions, and because his bat was pretty useless for the last 19 weeks of the season. I would like him back as a pinch hitter on a one year contract, but a two year contract for a pinch hitter who can’t field because he’s too fat, and who couldn’t hit when he received regular playing time, is just asinine.
you dont offer Hinske a 2 yr deal, there’s no point. Im also concerned with going to arb with Moylan. He was below replacement value last season and his control has gotten consistently worse since 2007. He also gave up 5HR’s last year in 63IP while giving up 0 in his 80IP prior. Something isnt right there and 2011 may not be a great year for him. Hope he can get back to his 2007 form.
iTunes has most or all of Project Gutenburg available. That’s 80,000 books for free, many of them the best of the best of literature from the beginning of books.
Glaus and Hinske were both good for about 2 months of last season. The rest of the time they were quite unproductive. Glaus doesnt even get a back-up job because his knees are supposedly done. But some people think Hinske should get a two year deal worth more than 1 M a year. Why all this trust in him?
MattyD has been a great player for the Braves. He’s prolly going to hit much better next year without the palm splinter infection in his thumb.
But, … he really doesn’t make much sense for the 2011 Braves. Once Prado moved to LF, the Braves needs reduced to a 4th OF that could play all three OF positions. Unfortunately, that’s not MattyD.
Braves need their $$$ to fill other needs and $2.5M will help alot with those needs.
I hope the Braves sign Eric Hinske AND Matt Diaz and see no real reason for them to let either go, let alone both. To quibble over the second year of a would-be contract seems a bit unnecessary on Frank Wren’s part.
Offer Billy Wagner a contract to pitch the second half of the season and THEN retire. He pitched very well last year and then had the playoff injury, which was pretty disappointing. Maybe he’d return for a half-season.
Liberty Media apparently lacks the business aptitude to realize that investing more revenue in the Braves would be just that– an investment, a wise one. Putting some cash on the table to maneuver for Carl Crawford, Jayson Werth, etc. would be great for the Braves.
I’ve read a lot about the Braves’ need for a leadoff man and how the team really has lacked one since Rafael Furcal skipped town after 2005. Aside from Willie Harris in 2007, they really largely have. Josh Anderson was a heck of a leadoff man and proved this fact in the minors AND majors in 2008, but what happened? Atlanta got infatuated with Jordan Schafer’s small-case-sample spring in 2009, gave him the job, and ran Anderson out even though Schafer never played Triple-A to that point. Atlanta needs to learn from these unwise actions and not repeat them. Had Atlanta not made this move, the team would’ve had a simultaneous leadoff man, a MAJOR basestealer, and a more-than-sufficient centerfielder. Not bad, not bad at all. Instead, it ran him out prematurely and meddled with Schafer’s career and in addition unnecessarily brought in the lucrative contract of Nate McLouth.
Derek Jeter reportedly wants a 5-year, $125-million contract, which would be the ninth-largest contract in MLB history, something he doesn’t deserve. This “unselfish” player knows that his relationship with the Yankees is romanticized and that the Yankees will seem like a hateful spouse if they don’t basically triple their 3-year, $45-million offer. This “unselfish”, “great” player is really overrated in both regards and has been for years, especially the former. First of all, the Yankees were in the right place at the right time in 1996 and rode fan interference as a springboard through the AL playoffs and had the luxury of not facing David Justice, a better candidate for Mr. October, at least at the time, in the World Series. Jeter is a fine player but also one of many cogs in Joe Torre’s hit-and-run offense at the time and was complemented well by Tino Martinez and Paul O’Neill. This “unselfish” player also is quite the showoff. A lot of his defensive plays have been masochistic and have hurt himself and the team more than the intrinsic out has helped it. Nowadays, he constantly barks and bothers his pitcher about some guy taking a lead off second base, which really is nothing more than an attempt to look like a leader for the camera, a la Tom Brady’s recent tirade in the Pittsburgh game. I don’t buy the hype and wish others wouldn’t, either. If he wants to leave, let him leave. The Yankees have a defensive stalwart/great prospect at shortstop who has more range than Jeter ever has had, so if Jeter wants to leave town, I’d hold the door for him.
One masochistic thing Jeter did NOT do was his wisely taking first base without charging the mound after John Rocker clocked him in 2000, after Jeter’s comments about him.
Don’t see the problem in Diaz year. He walked more this year yes but he still had an ERA under 3. This wasn’t quite his career year but still a damn good year. If he cuts the walks down he’ll be fine.
GO tell me how ole Josh Anderson is doing now. Last I checked hes out of a job. He was back with the braves for a bit this year. He had his one little moment in the sun and thats it.
I’ve got a couple of Rule 5 questions for you. Why didn’t the Braves protect LH starter Scott Diamond on their 40-man roster? I know he doesn’t have the greatest stuff, but they have no lefty starters in the majors.
Two years seems like such a no brainer when weighing the risk versus reward.
Risk: Being locked in beyond this season to an easily-replaceable baseball quantity; also, the player could fall flat on his ass (see Norton, Greg circa 2009).
Why didn’t the Braves protect LH starter Scott Diamond on their 40-man roster? I know he doesn’t have the greatest stuff, but they have no lefty starters in the majors, and he got all the way up to AAA last year (almost guaranteeing he’ll be picked). — Hammy the Brave
First of all, the Braves have a lefty starter, Mike Minor.
Secondly, they didn’t protect Diamond because they don’t have to. He’s not eligible for Rule 5 draft yet, has only been in minors three years. (This is incorrect. I’ve since had it clarified by a team official — Diamond signed in 2007, even though he didn’t pitch in minors until 2008. It’s only the signing date that matters, and that makes him eligible for Rule 5 draft.)
Here are the rules:
Players are eligible for selection in the Rule 5 draft who are not on their organization’s 40-man roster and:
a. were signed at age 19 or older and have been in the organization for four years; or
b. were signed at age 18 or younger and have been in the organization for five years.
As for the second part of your question, why the Braves haven’t taken anyone recently: If they thought a player such as the ones you mentioned above could help them, don’t you think the Braves would take them if such a player was still available when Braves selected in the draft? Don’t think they have at least as good a scouting reports as can be obtained online by any fan or media member?
Why didn’t the Braves protect LH starter Scott Diamond on their 40-man roster? I know he doesn’t have the greatest stuff, but they have no lefty starters in the majors…
Mike Minor is a left-handed starting pitcher. And he’s pitched in the majors. And he’s already on the 40-man roster. So…..
K, that was weird — before I posted my comment, DOB’s comment said nothing about Mike Minor…then I post my comment, and the line about Minor’s in there.
I think (hope at the very least) that every Braves fan on this site can agree that the Braves front office is handcuffed on who they can go out and get because Liberty Media is a cheap ownership group that cares more about the investment part of the Braves instead of being able to sign a few key players to this team in order to get it back to the World Series.
With that said, I believe that for the most part Frank Wren has done a great job in making this team a contender despite not having that much money to spend every year. Being 20 games above .500 is nothing to sneeze at, but unfortunately for the Braves, they have the high powered Phillies in the same division.
I hope that with the additions to this team that we can be true contenders for the division title again next season. I like Fredi Gonzalez as our manager, and Wren should be awarded an Emmy for his trade for Dan Uggla. I am hoping that those two deals alone could get us another 10 wins or so. I mean Gonzalez will take more chances to score runs, and how many 1 run games did we lose last season that we would have won had we had Uggla in the lineup? I don’t think for a second that winning an extra 10 games next year is out of the question at all. Hope some on here agree with that.
I don’t know that I’d call Liberty really a cheap organization. They don’t spend like Turner did but were still 15 in team salary this year and 8th in the NL. It would be nice to up the payroll some. Even if it was only up to 95-100 mil.
Ryan C, I thought we made it pretty clear here two days ago in the blog that the Braves haven’t spoken to Diaz since the end of the season nor indicated any intentions to tender him a contract. That’s been obvious all along, since before the season even ended. Because we knew they wouldn’t tender a contract and thus be on the hook for possible arb salary that would rise above $3 mill.
The only way he’d be back would probably be if the Braves were interested in bringing him back at a salary below last year’s, if he’d accept that. But when I talked to him this week, they hadn’t given him any indication that they were interested in doing that.
Here’s what we wrote in the blog above, on Monday: “Diaz has made it clear he’d skip his final run at arbitration and return for something close to the $2.55 million he made last year, but the Braves haven’t made an offer or indicated any intention to tender a contract.”
Looking over the payroll the last few years the Braves payroll seems to have settled in the mid to upper 80s since ‘05. It was 97 mil in ‘03 but 79 mil in ‘04.
I just hope they dont lower payroll again. Its dropped from $102 to $84
in the last two years. They definitely arent cheap. Their CEO just made $87 mil last year. It probably wouldve been a good idea for at least one person from Liberty showing up during the playoffs though
Daybed, I forgot that when I started writing comment to Hammy about Diamond not being eligible for Rule 5. I got caught up in checking his stats to make sure he’d only been in system three years. (Did Hammy the Brave not consider Minor a major league starter, or did he just forget he was a lefty? Hammy, what say you?)
If any Rays fans have stumbled onto this page, David Price is alive and well, as I saw him at the Vanderbilt-Western Kentucky basketball game tonight. Not that this is really news, but it’s not every day you run into one of the best pitchers in baseball (well, unless you’re friends with one or you’re a sportswriter).
P’cola Brave – Ya know, for people bitching and moaning about Liberty Media being so damn cheap…
I’d say to them…try being a Royals fan..and having cheap-#@! David Glass as the owner. The Royals who was MY team growing up (George Brett & Company) have had sooo many damn good players…(Damon, Dye, Beltran…JUST to name a few) but Glass is soooo damn cheap, he don’t care about winning and paying them any sort of money, and they leave.
AND mark my words, Greinke will be another one you can add to that list too…either THIS off-season, this coming season or next off-season.
You guys realize Hinske sucked for the last 19 weeks of the season, right? BH
what I been saying, even with numbers, but I guess we ain’t true believers and have no conception of the importance of his mere presence in the clubhouse.
They paid Greinke / Meche. Alex Gordon hurt that team alot. I’d be curious to see where KC rates with payroll as a % of attendance. Too lazy and not that curious to look it up, but guessing its right the w/ Cincy, Pitt, Milwaukee, etc – spent some $ on the stadium didn’t they?
Some folks get too worked up over whether the Braves payroll is 84 million or 87 million or 93 million.
Some even think they can add up all the players’ salaries and come up with a legit number that would represent the payroll.
It truly doesn’t matter. FW is going to spend what he has to fill his needs. I think he might even keep a pad available for mid season additions.
Doesn’t matter if it’s 88 or 90 or 92 million. For a mid market team, we are very fortunate to have ownership that is willing to spend a decent amount of money to fund our team.
What I was trying to say was…Glass don’t pay’em to keep’em there in KC longterm. To have some stability within the organization…(ie. players staying where they think they’ll have a chance of winning, etc).
DS1 – Am I a Brave fan that would love to see Crawford or some other big named FA in a Braves uni? yeah, sure…MOST definately, but I’m sick and tired of people %$#@ and moaning about Liberty Media being so cheap when there’s OTHER owners that are MORE cheap..PLUS they don’t care about winning at all..(ie…Royals owner David Glass)
Fredi’s Fu Manchu: Yes, talked to him tonight on phone. Schafer’s feeling good for first time in a long time. I’m going to write new blog about him tomorrow or Friday.
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Venice Jim
December 1st, 2010
7:50 pm
Talking to Nick…
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
7:51 pm
Working hard, I see…
Bat Masterson
December 1st, 2010
7:51 pm
cabravesfan i dont feel like going back in the blog what do u think about putz?
Whatever cab might think, I think he has an unfortunate name.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW7GwoN09h4
jeffrey d
December 1st, 2010
7:53 pm
BURN
richbrave
December 1st, 2010
7:53 pm
Eric In Albany N.Y.
December 1st, 2010
7:19 pm
never expect payroll to go up! not with liberty at the helm!
RENSSELAER flash. Whad’ ‘dup dude.
bostonbravo
December 1st, 2010
7:53 pm
make McLouth the hitting coach,,,
Hinske can do fitness
Conrad can be fielding coach
There, problems solved.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
7:54 pm
Can’t disagree with you there, Bat
richbrave
December 1st, 2010
7:54 pm
Hey VJ:
Good luck this weekend.
spinelli
December 1st, 2010
7:54 pm
P’cola I have metioned Thames last off season and was ridiculed. I think he could be a nice fit. not an everyday player but can play LF when CJ needs a rest and I believe he has played sparingly at 1st with Detroit
Snotboogie
December 1st, 2010
7:57 pm
Saw this on the side panel:
RT @FreddieFreeman: Happy birthday my dear friend
muah @PeterMoylan 37 mins ago
Really? “Muah” ?! Come on man.
richbrave
December 1st, 2010
7:59 pm
Murph
December 1st, 2010
7:02 pm
Hinske shminske. Nate shmate.
Gimme Matt Young playing like he is in Winter ball, Mather producing anywhere near his potential, and a solid veteran reliever and call it a day.
David O’Brien
December 1st, 2010
7:07 pm
I like how so many people here suggest getting this guy and that and “calling it a day,” or signing this one and trading for that one and “let’s play ball.”
This means you MURPH. The “let’s play ball” line reminds of “The THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR.” with PIERCE BROSNAN.
Frankie Wren
December 1st, 2010
8:12 pm
Give Hinske 1 yr contract and with royalties from King and Queen reruns should be more than enough financially to get him back
Venice Jim
December 1st, 2010
8:14 pm
richbrave – Thanks! I hope everyone has healed…
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
8:15 pm
Now get back to work!
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2010
8:16 pm
spinelli
Yea looked like Thames regained some form last year and may be a nice, cheap fit.
Venice Jim
December 1st, 2010
8:35 pm
Wow, you chased everyone back to work…
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
8:37 pm
cool! I Have The Power!
Bat Masterson
December 1st, 2010
8:38 pm
Ha, not me I’m reading a book.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
8:40 pm
Bat-
Really? What book?
jed
December 1st, 2010
8:47 pm
if the star wackers get to nate mclouth before the season, kill him and make it look like a suicide or overdose (their m.o., see david carradine & heath ledger), do we still have to pay his contract? isnt suicide a form of professional retirement?
Venice Jim
December 1st, 2010
8:48 pm
It must be a good book since he’s ignoring you…
Bat Masterson
December 1st, 2010
8:50 pm
The Girl Who Played With Fire.
Bat Masterson
December 1st, 2010
8:51 pm
It is good.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
8:51 pm
Bat-
Ah- that’s the one after Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, right? I have yet to read the first, but plan to soon
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
8:52 pm
Are you done working yet? I’m hungry!
Bat Masterson
December 1st, 2010
8:55 pm
That’s right, cab. I read TGWT Dragon Tattoo last weekend, very good.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
8:57 pm
I’m a little (or a lot) behind on my reading…just made a list of about a dozen books by my favorite authors that I have not read yet…glad Christmas is coming up so I can afford to buy some
MiaBchBravesFan
December 1st, 2010
9:01 pm
Some of us understand the budgetary constraints the Braves face. I, for one, am a pragmatist, and know when to push myself away from the table of gluttony and greed.
I would gamble and take a chance on Scott Proctor as my veteran presence in the bullpen. That said, if we garner ONE vet reliever of merit, my Braves’ cup would runneth over.
I am quite excited about 2011!
Venice Jim
December 1st, 2010
9:01 pm
About to move along – shutting down blog…
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
9:02 pm
YAY!
MiaBchBravesFan
December 1st, 2010
9:05 pm
However, things look mighty grim on another front…
KK might stay a Brave for 2011.
Bat Masterson
December 1st, 2010
9:22 pm
Yeah cab, books make great gifts. I have not been reading as much as normal this year, for any number of reasons. Even so I have read quite a few good books, it’s just that normally one might consider me an obsessive reader. I renewed my Barnes and Nobles card the other day and picked up a few books. I have one of those lifetime Gold discount cards from Books a Million, they stopped giving those out years ago, probably because of people like me.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
9:26 pm
Bat-
I have a Nook e-reader, which is great because the books are usually a lot cheaper to buy that way- I usually get at least one gift card at Christmas (fingers crossed…) I used to read a lot more then I do now (VJ’s fault
)- probably a book and a half a week depending on length…
Coach (2011 Fredi G. A Go))
December 1st, 2010
9:29 pm
There is one thing most will agree on. When it comes to intangibles such as clubhouse chemistry, leadership, charisma and all around talent….the Braves cannot replace Eric Hinske. Two years seems like such a no brainer when weighing the risk versus reward.
Jarryd
December 1st, 2010
9:45 pm
Anybody out there listen to any Particle?
Jarryd
December 1st, 2010
9:49 pm
Anybody out there?
braveslifer
December 1st, 2010
9:49 pm
Coach- Greg Norton was a nice guy too but everyone is very glad we didn’t lock him up for multiple years after his 2008 campaign.
Bat Masterson
December 1st, 2010
9:49 pm
cab_
I have not tried an e reader, though I know they are convenient and cheaper. I’ve heard good thing about them, but I love the feel and smell of a book. That said, considering the number of books here the space saving might be helpful.
I read pretty much anything, biography, social sciences, political, historical and most kinds of novels. One reason I read so many books is because I will read what some might consider junk. What might be called chick lit, because I get a kick out of the community aspect, mysteries, whatever …….. Some people veg out with mindless TV, I do so with certain novels. I came across a south Florida author a while back that writes mysteries and picked one up, it was pretty decent and one of the first in a series of 15 or 16. So I went back, got them all and read them over a week last year. It beats yelling at the idiots on the TV news.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
9:54 pm
Bat-
Nothing beats the smell of book but the ability to carry 100 books in my purse at once is kinda nice too
I love biographies, mysteries, sci-fi, historical mysteries, pretty much anything but romance novels
I have often discovered new authors simply by wondering around the bookstore for hours, picking up anything that looks semi-interesting and seeing if the description holds my attention. If it does, I usually end up reading the entire series (I like series- I find reading stories with people I’ve already met like seeing an old friend again- that may sound cheesy, but it’s true
)
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
9:55 pm
That’s the one thing I miss the most (well, besides the yard) about moving- I miss all my books
richbrave
December 1st, 2010
10:00 pm
FALL BALL
DOMINICAN
Nerwbie C WILKIN CASTILLO’s spirits seem to be lifted by his BRAVE-ness along with his BA. He gets his first triple of the fall session as he goes 1-3, 1 3B, 3 RBI (17), 1 SO, .279 BA.
MEXICO
Full slate. Games just underway. 2B JOE THURSTON 0-1, 1 SO top of the first.
PUERTO RICO
No BRAVE played today.
VENEZUELA
Full slate tonight.
SS LUIS ‘THE LIBERATOR’ BOLIVAR 0-2, .230 BA.
LH/RP LUIS AVILAN is dusted early tonight not even recording an out before being lifted for a second reliefer. His line: 0.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 6.92 ERA.
richbrave
December 1st, 2010
10:11 pm
NYTOL 1
bigwheel
December 1st, 2010
10:12 pm
Any chance of Tulo’ loosing the Mullet?
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
10:19 pm
bigwheel-
probably- he was doing it for charity
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
December 1st, 2010
10:19 pm
cab – I’m not sold on Putz either….
As I said to TnBrian, I wished they’d go get Kerry Wood, but don’t think thatzzzz gonna happen.
cabravesfan
December 1st, 2010
10:24 pm
I’ll take a pass on Kerry Wood to
Braveheart
December 1st, 2010
10:24 pm
You guys realize Hinske sucked for the last 19 weeks of the season, right?
Bat Masterson
December 1st, 2010
10:26 pm
(I like series- I find reading stories with people I’ve already met like seeing an old friend again- that may sound cheesy, but it’s true )
Ha, it does not sound chessy to me, I know what you mean. I love to browse the book store and find new authors to read. I have a cousin that is one of those guys that never reads buy one day a couple of years ago he told me had read something and liked it, some he probably should have read in high school or something I can’t remember what. Anyway he ask me if Grapes of Wrath was good, so I said “well yeah”. When I talked to him not long after and asked how it was, he said it was slow, real slow and I thought uh oh.
I told him to read some other Steinbeck, ” Of Mice and Men” or something, but he said, no I’m going to finish it. Well I felt bad about it, I mean I should have thought about it before I said, yeah read it. Okay, “Grapes” was fine with me but still Steinbeck wrote that for the literati, measuring himself against Thomas Wolfe or something and I should never had said, yeah read it, to a guy that does not love to read.
Damn long story, sorry. I went to the bookstore to find him a copy of “Mice and Men” and came across ” We Need To talk About Kevin” by Lionel Shriver, a great book and an author new to me. Serendipity ……………… As far as I know he never finished Grapes, nor read another book.
Playoffs!!!!
December 1st, 2010
10:27 pm
A veteran presence in the bullpen? I’d like to see us take a look at Trevor Hoffman.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
December 1st, 2010
10:28 pm
Braveheart – yeah, well…if the Braves would’ve beat the Giants, and went onto play the Phils and went to the WS and won that….the fact he’d sucked for the last 19 weeks of season, would’ve been forgotten…(LOL) especially if the Braves would’ve won that game (Game 4? against the Giants) Hinske hit the HR to put them ahead before everything went to %$#@ in the top of the 9th.
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2010
10:28 pm
Hinske wasn’t terrible but he wasn’t great either. If he hadn’t got off to such a hot start I wonder if we’d even be having this conversation.
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2010
10:29 pm
My votes for the pen go to Jon Rauch or Dan Wheeler.
Hammy the Brave
December 1st, 2010
10:30 pm
DOB,
I’ve got a couple of Rule 5 questions for you. Why didn’t the Braves protect LH starter Scott Diamond on their 40-man roster? I know he doesn’t have the greatest stuff, but they have no lefty starters in the majors, and he got all the way up to AAA last year (almost guaranteeing he’ll be picked).
Also, why don’t the Braves ever choose players in the Rule 5 draft, even at the minor league level? It should be one of the most cost effective ways for them to add depth to thin areas in their overall system (such as righty power bats,lefty starters, and speed).
According to what I’ve gleaned from Baseball America’s scouting of players available in the Rule 5 draft, Marquez Smith (3B from the Cubs AAA club) and Brandon Waring (3B/1B from the Orioles’ AA club) could either be worth it to be picked by the Braves. Below are their scouting reports:
• Marquez Smith, 3b, Cubs: At 25, Smith isn’t going to get much better, but he’s a useful reserve infielder with some thump in his bat. He had a huge second half at Triple-A Iowa (.347/.406/.682) and has bat speed, which gives him acceptable power. Defensively, he fits best at third but has some experience at second base as well. His profile would be helped greatly if he ran better or batted lefthanded, but his winter showing in Venezuela—he hit five home runs in his first 76 at-bats—could get him popped.
• Brandon Waring, 3b/1b, Orioles: It’s odd that a farm system that’s quite thin, such as Baltimore’s, has some intriguing talent available. It almost seems as if the O’s are cleaning house, or they’re in for a repeat of Pittsburgh’s 2003 Rule 5 experience, when the Pirates lost five of the first six players selected, including Jose Bautista (whom they traded to get back). Waring doesn’t have great tools and fits better defensively at first base than third, but he has excellent power and has produced at the Double-A level. The 24-year-old hit .242/.338/.458 with 22 homers, 32 doubles and 179 strikeouts at Bowie in 2010. He led the EL in strikeouts.
What are your thoughts on these questions, DOB?
Thanks for all your good info,
Hammy the Brave
keylargo
December 1st, 2010
10:33 pm
I have often discovered new authors simply by wondering around the bookstore for hours, picking up anything that looks semi-interesting
Well, I guess that beats match.com
JK CAB. You left yourself open for that one!
Venice Jim
December 1st, 2010
10:36 pm
She just does that on the blog…
Venice Jim
December 1st, 2010
10:36 pm
keylargo-
So far that’s only applied to books…and now VJ probably won’t let me go to the bookstore alone
Braveheart
December 1st, 2010
10:37 pm
If Hinske had been able to play first, third, or left, alot of problems would have been solved. We had to endure Glaus stinking up the joint, Glaus playing third in the playoffs, Conrad playing second in the playoffs, and Melky Cabrera all because Hinske has eaten himself out of capably fielding those positions, and because his bat was pretty useless for the last 19 weeks of the season. I would like him back as a pinch hitter on a one year contract, but a two year contract for a pinch hitter who can’t field because he’s too fat, and who couldn’t hit when he received regular playing time, is just asinine.
Bat Masterson
December 1st, 2010
10:39 pm
Keylargo _
Randy Wayne White : Doc Ford series. Set in you and nolies area of S W Florida.
unbelievable
December 1st, 2010
10:43 pm
you dont offer Hinske a 2 yr deal, there’s no point. Im also concerned with going to arb with Moylan. He was below replacement value last season and his control has gotten consistently worse since 2007. He also gave up 5HR’s last year in 63IP while giving up 0 in his 80IP prior. Something isnt right there and 2011 may not be a great year for him. Hope he can get back to his 2007 form.
N Nine
December 1st, 2010
10:46 pm
HIS NAME IS DAN UGGLA!!!!
abwright
December 1st, 2010
10:50 pm
Bat and CAbravesfan …
iTunes has most or all of Project Gutenburg available. That’s 80,000 books for free, many of them the best of the best of literature from the beginning of books.
Snotboogie
December 1st, 2010
10:50 pm
Glaus and Hinske were both good for about 2 months of last season. The rest of the time they were quite unproductive. Glaus doesnt even get a back-up job because his knees are supposedly done. But some people think Hinske should get a two year deal worth more than 1 M a year. Why all this trust in him?
ryan c
December 1st, 2010
10:52 pm
Bowman just posted that Diaz is as good as gone and the Braves will not be tendering him a contract.
ryan c
December 1st, 2010
10:57 pm
Hinske, as a pinch hitter/substitute had a 1.067 ops. as a starter, he had a .723 ops. he’s a bench player, and a darned good one.
abwright
December 1st, 2010
10:58 pm
MattyD has been a great player for the Braves. He’s prolly going to hit much better next year without the palm splinter infection in his thumb.
But, … he really doesn’t make much sense for the 2011 Braves. Once Prado moved to LF, the Braves needs reduced to a 4th OF that could play all three OF positions. Unfortunately, that’s not MattyD.
Braves need their $$$ to fill other needs and $2.5M will help alot with those needs.
Ronald Millsaps
December 1st, 2010
10:59 pm
I hope the Braves sign Eric Hinske AND Matt Diaz and see no real reason for them to let either go, let alone both. To quibble over the second year of a would-be contract seems a bit unnecessary on Frank Wren’s part.
Offer Billy Wagner a contract to pitch the second half of the season and THEN retire. He pitched very well last year and then had the playoff injury, which was pretty disappointing. Maybe he’d return for a half-season.
Liberty Media apparently lacks the business aptitude to realize that investing more revenue in the Braves would be just that– an investment, a wise one. Putting some cash on the table to maneuver for Carl Crawford, Jayson Werth, etc. would be great for the Braves.
I’ve read a lot about the Braves’ need for a leadoff man and how the team really has lacked one since Rafael Furcal skipped town after 2005. Aside from Willie Harris in 2007, they really largely have. Josh Anderson was a heck of a leadoff man and proved this fact in the minors AND majors in 2008, but what happened? Atlanta got infatuated with Jordan Schafer’s small-case-sample spring in 2009, gave him the job, and ran Anderson out even though Schafer never played Triple-A to that point. Atlanta needs to learn from these unwise actions and not repeat them. Had Atlanta not made this move, the team would’ve had a simultaneous leadoff man, a MAJOR basestealer, and a more-than-sufficient centerfielder. Not bad, not bad at all. Instead, it ran him out prematurely and meddled with Schafer’s career and in addition unnecessarily brought in the lucrative contract of Nate McLouth.
Derek Jeter reportedly wants a 5-year, $125-million contract, which would be the ninth-largest contract in MLB history, something he doesn’t deserve. This “unselfish” player knows that his relationship with the Yankees is romanticized and that the Yankees will seem like a hateful spouse if they don’t basically triple their 3-year, $45-million offer. This “unselfish”, “great” player is really overrated in both regards and has been for years, especially the former. First of all, the Yankees were in the right place at the right time in 1996 and rode fan interference as a springboard through the AL playoffs and had the luxury of not facing David Justice, a better candidate for Mr. October, at least at the time, in the World Series. Jeter is a fine player but also one of many cogs in Joe Torre’s hit-and-run offense at the time and was complemented well by Tino Martinez and Paul O’Neill. This “unselfish” player also is quite the showoff. A lot of his defensive plays have been masochistic and have hurt himself and the team more than the intrinsic out has helped it. Nowadays, he constantly barks and bothers his pitcher about some guy taking a lead off second base, which really is nothing more than an attempt to look like a leader for the camera, a la Tom Brady’s recent tirade in the Pittsburgh game. I don’t buy the hype and wish others wouldn’t, either. If he wants to leave, let him leave. The Yankees have a defensive stalwart/great prospect at shortstop who has more range than Jeter ever has had, so if Jeter wants to leave town, I’d hold the door for him.
One masochistic thing Jeter did NOT do was his wisely taking first base without charging the mound after John Rocker clocked him in 2000, after Jeter’s comments about him.
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2010
11:00 pm
Don’t see the problem in Diaz year. He walked more this year yes but he still had an ERA under 3. This wasn’t quite his career year but still a damn good year. If he cuts the walks down he’ll be fine.
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2010
11:05 pm
Sorry didn’t mean Diaz. I meant Moylan
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2010
11:07 pm
R. Millsaps
GO tell me how ole Josh Anderson is doing now. Last I checked hes out of a job. He was back with the braves for a bit this year. He had his one little moment in the sun and thats it.
Doc Holiday
December 1st, 2010
11:10 pm
I dont know why the braves let Blanco go away.
Steve McP
December 1st, 2010
11:12 pm
Hammy the Brave
December 1st, 2010
10:30 pm
DOB,
I’ve got a couple of Rule 5 questions for you. Why didn’t the Braves protect LH starter Scott Diamond on their 40-man roster? I know he doesn’t have the greatest stuff, but they have no lefty starters in the majors.
——
Mike Minor is a LH starter
Steve from OH
December 1st, 2010
11:14 pm
Two years seems like such a no brainer when weighing the risk versus reward.
Risk: Being locked in beyond this season to an easily-replaceable baseball quantity; also, the player could fall flat on his ass (see Norton, Greg circa 2009).
Reward:…intangibles?
No-Brainer. Got it. Thanks for enlightening me.
David O'Brien
December 1st, 2010
11:16 pm
Why didn’t the Braves protect LH starter Scott Diamond on their 40-man roster? I know he doesn’t have the greatest stuff, but they have no lefty starters in the majors, and he got all the way up to AAA last year (almost guaranteeing he’ll be picked). — Hammy the Brave
First of all, the Braves have a lefty starter, Mike Minor.
Secondly, they didn’t protect Diamond because they don’t have to. He’s not eligible for Rule 5 draft yet, has only been in minors three years.(This is incorrect. I’ve since had it clarified by a team official — Diamond signed in 2007, even though he didn’t pitch in minors until 2008. It’s only the signing date that matters, and that makes him eligible for Rule 5 draft.)Here are the rules:
Players are eligible for selection in the Rule 5 draft who are not on their organization’s 40-man roster and:
a. were signed at age 19 or older and have been in the organization for four years; or
b. were signed at age 18 or younger and have been in the organization for five years.
As for the second part of your question, why the Braves haven’t taken anyone recently: If they thought a player such as the ones you mentioned above could help them, don’t you think the Braves would take them if such a player was still available when Braves selected in the draft? Don’t think they have at least as good a scouting reports as can be obtained online by any fan or media member?
Daybed Wagmoe
December 1st, 2010
11:23 pm
Why didn’t the Braves protect LH starter Scott Diamond on their 40-man roster? I know he doesn’t have the greatest stuff, but they have no lefty starters in the majors…
Mike Minor is a left-handed starting pitcher. And he’s pitched in the majors. And he’s already on the 40-man roster. So…..
Daybed Wagmoe
December 1st, 2010
11:24 pm
K, that was weird — before I posted my comment, DOB’s comment said nothing about Mike Minor…then I post my comment, and the line about Minor’s in there.
In Fredi I Trust
December 1st, 2010
11:25 pm
I think (hope at the very least) that every Braves fan on this site can agree that the Braves front office is handcuffed on who they can go out and get because Liberty Media is a cheap ownership group that cares more about the investment part of the Braves instead of being able to sign a few key players to this team in order to get it back to the World Series.
With that said, I believe that for the most part Frank Wren has done a great job in making this team a contender despite not having that much money to spend every year. Being 20 games above .500 is nothing to sneeze at, but unfortunately for the Braves, they have the high powered Phillies in the same division.
I hope that with the additions to this team that we can be true contenders for the division title again next season. I like Fredi Gonzalez as our manager, and Wren should be awarded an Emmy for his trade for Dan Uggla. I am hoping that those two deals alone could get us another 10 wins or so. I mean Gonzalez will take more chances to score runs, and how many 1 run games did we lose last season that we would have won had we had Uggla in the lineup? I don’t think for a second that winning an extra 10 games next year is out of the question at all. Hope some on here agree with that.
In Fredi I Trust
December 1st, 2010
11:27 pm
Daybed,
I saw that as well. I think DOB just added that Minor bot to his post above. I didn’t see it either when I read it.
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2010
11:29 pm
I don’t know that I’d call Liberty really a cheap organization. They don’t spend like Turner did but were still 15 in team salary this year and 8th in the NL. It would be nice to up the payroll some. Even if it was only up to 95-100 mil.
David O'Brien
December 1st, 2010
11:30 pm
Ryan C, I thought we made it pretty clear here two days ago in the blog that the Braves haven’t spoken to Diaz since the end of the season nor indicated any intentions to tender him a contract. That’s been obvious all along, since before the season even ended. Because we knew they wouldn’t tender a contract and thus be on the hook for possible arb salary that would rise above $3 mill.
The only way he’d be back would probably be if the Braves were interested in bringing him back at a salary below last year’s, if he’d accept that. But when I talked to him this week, they hadn’t given him any indication that they were interested in doing that.
Here’s what we wrote in the blog above, on Monday: “Diaz has made it clear he’d skip his final run at arbitration and return for something close to the $2.55 million he made last year, but the Braves haven’t made an offer or indicated any intention to tender a contract.”
P'cola Brave
December 1st, 2010
11:32 pm
Looking over the payroll the last few years the Braves payroll seems to have settled in the mid to upper 80s since ‘05. It was 97 mil in ‘03 but 79 mil in ‘04.
unbelievable
December 1st, 2010
11:36 pm
Even if it was only up to 95-100 mil. – Pcola
I just hope they dont lower payroll again. Its dropped from $102 to $84
in the last two years. They definitely arent cheap. Their CEO just made $87 mil last year. It probably wouldve been a good idea for at least one person from Liberty showing up during the playoffs though
David O'Brien
December 1st, 2010
11:37 pm
Daybed, I forgot that when I started writing comment to Hammy about Diamond not being eligible for Rule 5. I got caught up in checking his stats to make sure he’d only been in system three years. (Did Hammy the Brave not consider Minor a major league starter, or did he just forget he was a lefty? Hammy, what say you?)
Fredi's Fu Manchu
December 1st, 2010
11:38 pm
Minor is ambidextrous. Pitching RH this year.
Fredi's Fu Manchu
December 1st, 2010
11:40 pm
Talk to Schafer yet?
D.J.
December 1st, 2010
11:41 pm
If any Rays fans have stumbled onto this page, David Price is alive and well, as I saw him at the Vanderbilt-Western Kentucky basketball game tonight. Not that this is really news, but it’s not every day you run into one of the best pitchers in baseball (well, unless you’re friends with one or you’re a sportswriter).
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
December 1st, 2010
11:43 pm
P’cola Brave – Ya know, for people bitching and moaning about Liberty Media being so damn cheap…
I’d say to them…try being a Royals fan..and having cheap-#@! David Glass as the owner. The Royals who was MY team growing up (George Brett & Company) have had sooo many damn good players…(Damon, Dye, Beltran…JUST to name a few) but Glass is soooo damn cheap, he don’t care about winning and paying them any sort of money, and they leave.
AND mark my words, Greinke will be another one you can add to that list too…either THIS off-season, this coming season or next off-season.
unbelievable
December 1st, 2010
11:47 pm
talk to schafer about what?
nolie
December 1st, 2010
11:47 pm
You guys realize Hinske sucked for the last 19 weeks of the season, right? BH
what I been saying, even with numbers, but I guess we ain’t true believers and have no conception of the importance of his mere presence in the clubhouse.
Braveheart
December 1st, 2010
11:48 pm
A Tribe Called Quest Documentary Trailer:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/68404/238856
Fredi's Fu Manchu
December 1st, 2010
11:50 pm
They paid Greinke / Meche. Alex Gordon hurt that team alot. I’d be curious to see where KC rates with payroll as a % of attendance. Too lazy and not that curious to look it up, but guessing its right the w/ Cincy, Pitt, Milwaukee, etc – spent some $ on the stadium didn’t they?
Fredi's Fu Manchu
December 1st, 2010
11:51 pm
Think DOB said he was going to talk to him today or tomorrow.
DS1
December 1st, 2010
11:51 pm
Some folks get too worked up over whether the Braves payroll is 84 million or 87 million or 93 million.
Some even think they can add up all the players’ salaries and come up with a legit number that would represent the payroll.
It truly doesn’t matter. FW is going to spend what he has to fill his needs. I think he might even keep a pad available for mid season additions.
Doesn’t matter if it’s 88 or 90 or 92 million. For a mid market team, we are very fortunate to have ownership that is willing to spend a decent amount of money to fund our team.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
December 1st, 2010
11:52 pm
Fredi’s Fu Manchu
What I was trying to say was…Glass don’t pay’em to keep’em there in KC longterm. To have some stability within the organization…(ie. players staying where they think they’ll have a chance of winning, etc).
I hope that makes sense.
Fredi's Fu Manchu
December 1st, 2010
11:53 pm
Frank – Wouldn’t you want a min-Tex hall for Greinke?
DS1
December 1st, 2010
11:55 pm
Bbbbbbut nolie, he provides intangibles…………..
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
December 1st, 2010
11:56 pm
DS1 – Am I a Brave fan that would love to see Crawford or some other big named FA in a Braves uni? yeah, sure…MOST definately, but I’m sick and tired of people %$#@ and moaning about Liberty Media being so cheap when there’s OTHER owners that are MORE cheap..PLUS they don’t care about winning at all..(ie…Royals owner David Glass)
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
December 1st, 2010
11:57 pm
Fredi’s Fu Manchu
? @ your 11:35 p.m.
David O'Brien
December 1st, 2010
11:58 pm
Fredi’s Fu Manchu: Yes, talked to him tonight on phone. Schafer’s feeling good for first time in a long time. I’m going to write new blog about him tomorrow or Friday.
uga-brave
December 1st, 2010
11:59 pm
DOB, wasn’t uggla a rule 5 guy when the marlins got him?
Fredi's Fu Manchu
December 1st, 2010
11:59 pm
Would you like to see Greinke go (now) for a slew of top prospects like Braves did for Teixeira?