2:13 pm November 22, 2010, by Carroll Rogers
November 22nd, 20104:01 pm
You tell me why when they are almost the same age does Jeter play 150 games a year over the last three years and chipper can barely play 130?
Genetics? Previous injury history? Height? Luck?
Pick one. I’m the same age as Yunel Escobar, but with a lifetime of working out I’d never be able to play SS as well as he does. People are different, even ballplayers.
November 22nd, 20104:02 pm
So your assumption is that if players are of the same age, physically they should be identical in terms of wear and tear, injuries etc. They aren’t clones you know.
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November 22nd, 20104:04 pm
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November 22nd, 20104:06 pm
raleighbravesfan, i think maybe the alcohol is to sooth the neck from staring up at moldings….or even ceilings – yes i am thorough, too thorough!
rainman, if Chipper doesn’t make it back, and Prado is there every day, then they’d have to make a move at that time – in spring training, early in the year whenever it is.
November 22nd, 20104:07 pm
Too many people listening to Brian Jordan on fitness. I seem to remember he was injured a lot when he played also.
November 22nd, 20104:08 pm
So Votta win MVP because he leads his team to the playoffs and the AL Cy Young goes to a guy on a team that was…61-101 worst in AL.
Pujols played on a worse offensive team, played better defense and was a better hitter. The guy that was most valuable to his team was Pujols. His team didn’t make the playoffs, but its not like that diminishes his value. That’s on the other guys that sucked it up.
November 22nd, 20104:09 pm
Yeah, Jordan was never in shape, that’s why he played in both MLB AND the NFL.
I’d say Jordan’s injuries had much more to due with the beating a body takes from football than any lack of work ethic.
November 22nd, 20104:10 pm
The MVP is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER and should always go to a division winner (since the award is voted upon prior to the playoffs). The question always has to be: Could (Player’s Team) finish in (whatever) place without (certain player)? The Cards could have finished out of the playoffs without Pujols, the Reds could NOT have won the division without Votto.
I loved Andre Dawson but in 1987 he had NO business winning the MVP. The Cubs could have finished in last without his 49 HRs.
Votto deserved it and I’m glad to see it was won convincingly…
November 22nd, 20104:11 pm
You could argue that and then I could argue the effects of lineup and who was protecting Pujols vs who was protecting Votto.We could argue all day long without coming to a conclusion because in the end it is subjective. Which is why they poll so many writers – 2 per city. And then you hope with the differing points of view a consensus can be reached. Nobody is saying it is perfect, but when 31 writers think Votto is the MVP probably it is not quite the joke you think it is.
November 22nd, 20104:13 pm
The doctor did a brain MRI the other day and he said that the radiologist told him he didn’t see anything but empty space.
Where does Hinske call home during the offseason? I’ve read that the Brewers are interested in Hinske. From what I’ve gathered he grew up just north of Milwaukee. I wonder if that would play a big factor. Seems like he may get more playing time with Braves with Chipper/Freeman.
November 22nd, 20104:14 pm
BravePack..Guess we will have to agree to disagree. Our defense is pretty stout and our offense is very stout as well. Have you seen Lofton play, Weatherspoon? The only way you have a chance is if Abraham can’t go because of his groin. But if he is in there Mr. Rodgers will be on his back looking up at the Dome ceiling alot on Sunday.
The Cy Young is a completely different award. The Cy Young goes to the BEST pitcher that year…not the Most Valuable Pitcher. That’s why a pitcher can also win the MVP.
King Felix won the award because it’s an INDIVIDUAL award. He was the best pitcher…hands down. WINS are a TEAM effort which is why they should not come into play when considering an INDIVIDUAL award. If Hernandez is on the Yankees he wins 25 games at least…
November 22nd, 20104:16 pm
Cy Young has nothing to do with MVP. I’m glad Cy Young awards are not based on W-L or the team’s record. Else Greinke and Felix would not have won it.
November 22nd, 20104:18 pm
Hillbilly, here’s the story (http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2008/07/08/chipper-jones-strikes-out-with-kelly-clarkson/
KM: Do you get recognized everywhere you go by now?
CJ: Funny story about that. Last year I was at the Daytona 500 with a friend and Richard Childress. Kelly Clarkson, who had sung before the race, came into the room. She walked my way, looking at me like she knew who I was, so I started to put out my hand. Then she pulls out a camera and asks me to take a photo of her and her friends. My buddy lost it. I’m from Daytona, so everybody knows me there. I was so embarrassed that I just wanted to go get a beer. Boy, was I put out.
Tyler, Hinske is from Wisconsin yes. Big Packers fan. I’m betting geography would not make as much of a difference to him as the length of the contract, getting that security. If the Brewers offered him two years, then they’re onto something. If not, I’d think he’d still take being back in the Braves clubhouse. But that’s a good point you raise.
November 22nd, 20104:19 pm
It’s quite simple Joe Torre was a hard A__ ! He made Jeter do wind sprints and jog 10 miles every morning then made him play not just one game but then he also made him play in the split squad game and if there was a simulated game going on he also had to attend these. Bobby’s country club atmosphere was the culprit to all Chippers short comings. Chipper should hire a lawyer and sue the dog sh– out of Bobby!!
They’ve got Silver Slugger for the best hitter and gold glove for the best defender. Cy Young for the best pitcher…..MVP is a different deal. A pitcher can win MVP you know.
November 22nd, 20104:21 pm
How does one measure the MVP? I mean its the same argument. Votta helped lead his team to more wins than Pujols. Which is absolutely not quantifiable.
So rather than the MVP perhaps they should change it to best position player. Because there you could actually compare players better without penalizing a guy for not making the playoffs.
Pujols played in a worse park offensively and had better numbers. And if you need to you can compare the two players defensively as well, which apparently Albert is better according to the Gold Glove voters.
There is no real way to tell how valuable a guy was to his team, so the term MVP seems a little absurd.
November 22nd, 20104:22 pm
Assuming only one of Minor or Beachy is on the 25-man roster to start the season (not a sure thing at all), it looks like the Braves have the following bullpen and bench players locked in for their 12 non-starting slots:
3. Moylan (possibly non-tendered, but very unlikely)
4. O’Flaherty (see Moylan)
By my count that leaves 3 bullpen slots and 4 bench spots that are still up in the air. Among the 4 bench spots the Braves will need at least one player who can back up SS, and ideally a backup CF.
For the bullpen slots Scott Proctor seems very likely to get one of them, and it’s very possible that Brandon Beachy claims one of these spots as well.
For the 4 bench slots, it sounds like there is a very good chance that Hinske re-signs, and until proven otherwise I’m going to assume that Conrad makes the opening day roster. Mather or Young seems the likely backup CF, with Mather getting a slight advantage due to MLB experience and the ability to play multiple positions. Diaz could be offered a contract, but if the Braves are able to re-sign Hinske I’d say there is very little chance Diaz is back.
All that really leaves is a backup SS. Diory is the only in-house option, so maybe the Braves will go out and get someone else.
November 22nd, 20104:23 pm
Not to mention the Cardinals killed the Reds 12-6 in the season series.
November 22nd, 20104:24 pm
Three things there, starting with the latter. I dont think Chipper should be joking about cheating on his wife again lol.
2nd thing is maybe if they did have to run 6 min miles and do things the “new age” way, we wouldnt be plagued with injuries like we always are. And lastly, I dont like hearing that Chipper is out walking miles of rough terrain. Youre a professional baseball player who is very important to the success of the Braves. Not to mention in his last years of being able to play the game. I think he should be a little bit more responsible. Brian Jordan nailed it last year. He shouldnt have had to appologize.
November 22nd, 20104:25 pm
Votta helped lead his team to more wins than Pujols. Which is absolutely not quantifiable.
What about WPA and WAR? Now, you might quibble on the methodology used to produce those numbers, granted, but, otherwise, that’s exactly what they attempt to quantify.
November 22nd, 20104:26 pm
Carroll Rogers – If a pitcher can win MVP then why don’t they? It’s because the award is biased towards hitters. That Halladay guy was a pretty darn good pitcher and should have won the award over Votto. I think he threw some kind of no-hitter or something against Votto’s team in the playoffs.
So saying that a pitcher can win MVP is not exactly true. He CAN, but it is highly unlikely. With all the injuries the Phillies had this year, the major constant to this team and especially down the stretch was Hallday.
November 22nd, 20104:27 pm
That story about Chipper and Kelly Clarkson is hilarious. It reminds me of a story from my back in my college days when some friends of mine ran into Peyton and Eli Manning at a bar in Buckhead. Soon after they walked in a co-ed walked up to Peyton with a camera in hand and asked him if he minded taking a picture. He replied “Sure”, but was suprised when the girl handed him the camera and posed with her friends. One of my buddies was waiting in line for the bathroom next to him a few minutes later and asked about him about it….Peyton thought it was the funniest thing ever.
November 22nd, 20104:28 pm
A what? You come to spring trainning not ready to play and out of shape? No wonder why Braves get hurt all the time when real games are played.
November 22nd, 20104:29 pm
………..But it looks like everybody and their neighbors have already stated my points. wow you ppl are fast.
November 22nd, 20104:30 pm
CraZyTRaDeMaN = Pamela Cox
Yeah, you better defend Bobby . . .
Assuming they don’t offer Derrek Lee arbitration, any chance that they’ll want to sign him on the cheap if they don’t offer him arbitration and if he doesn’t get offered a multi-year deal elsewhere?
November 22nd, 20104:31 pm
maybe if they did have to run 6 min miles and do things the “new age” way, we wouldnt be plagued with injuries like we always are.
Yes, we could just get them all out of the way in March. Might make it a little tough to field a squad WHEN THE GAMES ACTUALLY BLEEPIN’ COUNT, but, other than that…
And lastly, I dont like hearing that Chipper is out walking miles of rough terrain.
How is that any different from doing squats, or leglifts, or anything else, LOL? He’s working the knee, and it’s holding up. He could blow the sumbee out in the weight room just as easily as walking to his deer blind.
McEased that mutha, LOL.
November 22nd, 20104:32 pm
Jones on Gonzalez: He said Fredi Gonzalez was his one and only pick, if he’d had one, to become only the second big league manager he has ever played for. Carrol “only the second big league manager for whom he has played”
November 22nd, 20104:33 pm
You do realize that there were 2 St.Louis writers who had a vote and yet Pujols got only 1 first place vote right. You know what that means right?
Even if you dont want to embrace those advanced stats, as I said it need not be quantifiable for writers to vote on. You think if you asked DOB or Carroll to tell you who was the Braves MVP, they would scurry to a sabermetric matrix and give you their idea based on a number. Heck no – it can be subjective and most often is.
November 22nd, 20104:34 pm
You wrote in the blog that Chipper said he was going to try and convince Uggla to stay for more years thoughout the season. By that do you get the impression the Braves will wait until after the season to try and extend Uggla? In my eyes that would be a big mistake to try and outbid other teams when he becomes a free agent. It seems both parties are happy to get something worked out long term so why not get it done soon instead of waiting. Braves have long needed a right hand power bat and Uggla wants to contend, get paid, and be close to home which the Braves can offer. Seems pretty easy to me.
November 22nd, 20104:35 pm
MFin04 – I can’t quite figure out why you are so worked up about this. Did Votto kick your dog or insult your sister? Do you have some kind of crush on King Albert? I personally think until a Brave gets disrespected, that it’s not worth geting upset about it one way or the other.
To the Chipper haters – Get over it! And the Jeter is in better shape than Chipper argument may be the dumbest thing ever said on this blog (not by Don).
You think if you asked DOB or Carroll to tell you who was the Braves MVP, they would scurry to a sabermetric matrix and give you their idea based on a number.
Nah. Shaun’s just a phone call away, if you want that little nugget.
November 22nd, 20104:36 pm
Matt Young is everything the Braves wanted McClouth to be and not much shorter. Play Young and sit McClouth. The team will score many more runs than last year with McClouth on the bench and with Young as starting CF and leadoff.
what about picking up David Eckstein “the X factor”
he is hard nose player who can play ss and 2nd we could use him
November 22nd, 20104:37 pm
I agree to an extent about pitchers but they have an award tailored specifically to them that position players cannot win. For a pitcher to win the MVP he has to have a pretty special season all around and NOT ONLY be the best pitcher in the league, but also be the Most Valuable Player in the entire league.
There is no doubt that Votto (31 of 32 1st place votes) is the Most Valuable to his team this year. It’s not the player of the year award…
November 22nd, 20104:38 pm
Braves MVP was Prado……Not that you asked. (smile)
HT, Lee wants to play every day. Don’t see it happening here.
MFin04, I’m just saying MVP is not an award simply based on one particular skill. And you made my point for me by saying Halladay shoulda won it then.
November 22nd, 20104:39 pm
No, no, please no. David Eckstein is Brooks Conrad minus the power.
November 22nd, 20104:40 pm
Thanks for that Clarkson/Jones story. I love it. Hella-funny!
I love Chipper, but we all know he’s not going to make it to the all star break without getting injured. If you think his bat speed slowed down last year, I seriously doubt that a bad knee is going to help any next year. Don’t make the same mistake we made last offseason counting on an often injured Glaus. Hurry up and sign another outfielder while we still have a chance instead of waiting until we have to and the best guy we can get is another Ankiel type. Ordonez should be the guy or maybe Jorge Cantu who can play either 3rd or 1st base in case of a Chipper injury or Freeman doesn’t pan out. Gonzalez has managed him before and the guy played great in Florida for the last couple of years before getting traded to Texas.
November 22nd, 20104:41 pm
Didn’t it say in the blog that Chipper always starts to work out around Christmas and this year plans to start earlier?
Ah,yes,David Eckstein is a must.
November 22nd, 20104:42 pm
Young might end up being better than McLouth, but it’d be irresponsible to go into a season projecting that to happen. And to be honest neither he nor McLouth needs to be leadoff…in face, I wouldn’t begin the season with either of them in anything higher than the #7 spot. To me, the first 3 in the lineup need to be Prado, Heyward, Jones. Add some combination of Uggla and McCann after that, then Freeman/Gonzalez/McLouth(or Young).
CB the trouble-maker. Allllways stirring the pot, LOL.
November 22nd, 20104:44 pm
I like Uggla’s bat, but I really think it’s going to hurt us defensively. Does it fill a need? Yes. But what about defense?
We really stunk up the joint defensively last year and it bit us just when it counted the most. Just not sure what they are going to do about the gaping hole in CF also. I like Nate and I want him to be successful, but how much confidence can they have in the guy?
Allllways stirring the pot, LOL.
Probably he volunteers at a local soup kitchen.
November 22nd, 20104:46 pm
Love the new blog. I can’t wait to see how the rest of the roster shakes down. I know Frank Wren will likely give Nate McOut another shot but that’s a big mistkake. Contractually, you can’t just eat his contract but that position hindered Atlanta all season last year. I hope he bounces back and resembles the player he was his first several years in the bigs. If he does, the Braves are onto something. Eric Hinske and Joe Mather on the bench would not be overkill. I like the idea of Matt Young being a backup outfielder with Hinske able to play out there as well. One man who could play of 2B, 3B and SS would be great on the bench. The bullpen just needs one solid closer and we’re there. Who will be the man on the back end? Will Wren trust Craig Kimbrel?
November 22nd, 20104:47 pm
David Eckstein is pretty damn good with the glove.
Chipper Jones with Jason Aldean is an unstoppable force
MARKET THIS WREN!!!!!!!!!
Miami – Ordonez doesn’t fit the bill defensively and I can’t understand why folks on here are clamoring for us to get older (he’s 37), slower and more one dimensional.
And Cantu barely sniffed it when he joined the Rangers and they figured out that he couldn’t play…
November 22nd, 20104:49 pm
“For” is not a preposition….did you go to Auburn ?
Ok, I’ll move off of the MVP.
What the heck is Chipper doing running around hunting with a recently repaired ACL?
Dave from Dallas –
Pretty much committed to Kimbrell now that Billy Wags in on the farm…I believe he can handle it. Hope I’m right
November 22nd, 20104:50 pm
Jacoby Ellsbury should be Frank Wren’s primary objective this off season
Alex in DC
I heard they just signed Mark Wohlers to a 1 year deal. He’ll be closing for us in 2011.
Miami – NO ONE, including you knows that Chipper is “not going to make it to the all star break without getting injured”. He may not, but I wouldn’t place a bet either way. Don’t you at least want to see what Chipper, Young, McLouth, and others in the family can do during ST before making a bunch of unfounded assumptions? Of course, we can always rush out and get an OF and/or 3rd baseman that we don’t need, because someone steps up, and then AG, Mac, Uggla gets hurt, and we have no more money to spend. This is only November people. Chill a little.
November 22nd, 20104:51 pm
Carroll…Did you try one of those paints that has the primer added to it?…
November 22nd, 20104:52 pm
David Eckstein in the pass two years he has played in over 2000 innings and has only made 2 errors that dont sound like conrad to me
November 22nd, 20104:53 pm
Maybe we should have a poll to see how many people think it is a great idea for Chipper to be hunting after tearing his 15 million dollar ACL.
Surely the Braves management don’t think that’s the greatest idea in the world.
RC, love the Manning Bros story. Priceless.
Hillbilly, indeed it is. I sure got a laugh!
Who is liberty media anyway?
November 22nd, 20104:54 pm
Wren needs to look into Grady Sizemore…under the radar…great OF… and Indians may be willing to part with yet another great player
November 22nd, 20104:57 pm
Hope Chipper doesn’t get Aldean’s two earring look. He looks like a sissy . . .
Talking of bar stories, does anyone remember the one where one of our blog denizens thought Kris Medlen was Kelly Johnson and got him to show his ID to prove he wasnt? Can you imagine what Medlen thought about that one.
November 22nd, 20104:59 pm
Check Sizemore’s numbers the past few seasons to McLouth’s. They are really, really similar. Add to that the fact that Sizemore is trying to recover from microfracture surgery on his knee, and that the Braves already have McLouth, and I don’t think this move makes a lot of sense.
November 22nd, 20105:01 pm
He probably thought “Sweet! Someone thinks I’m as old as Kelly Johnson, instead of a 14-year-old skater punk like I usually am mistaken for!”
November 22nd, 20105:02 pm
“For” is not a preposition….did you go to Auburn?
I think the better question is where did you go to school?
November 22nd, 20105:03 pm
Bring back MattE D!!!!!! I can’t believe Chipper or other players wouldn’t make a case for bringing him back, but then I’m still having trouble adjusting to the player I’ve always hated, Uggly (cracked me up that someone in the AJC vent wrote “I thought Uggla was the UGA mascot.” Hilarious. I guess I’m the only one who’s going to miss Omar, too. I’m not all about winning if I can’t root for the actual players that are on the team. MattE is worth the 2.5 million, no doubt. They’re just trying to go cheaper with guys like Mather or Young. Mistake. But then, a guy like Renteria win’s World Series MVP and then dumped. Diaz is a guy you need on this team, no matter what people say, he will rebound and he is a team 1st guy all the way. Bring him back!!@!!
mark bradley's 70's fro and mustache
November 22nd, 20105:06 pm
Whats the deal with chipper comments about no training for spring training? Is he showing up with a Grab Bag of Funyuns and a Big Gulp? Is that why Brian Jordan made a comment about his shape for his age??
having done both with a bad knee, walking through mountainous terrain is a lot less stress then swinging a bat…besides, what is Chipper supposed to do? Some of you seem to think he should be doing nothing but working out and laying in bed with an ice pack…
And I think his comment about not coming to camp “in shape” meant that most guys (I think it’s more common for teams then not) come to camp with the idea that they will work themselves into “playing shape” by the time camp ends- that is the point of camp. Not to be ready to play 162 games right away.
November 22nd, 20105:07 pm
The braves need to get Matt Damon for CF!
November 22nd, 20105:09 pm
I think we havent heard it all till Rob from SC gives his opinion on Chippy being out of shape.
November 22nd, 20105:11 pm
November 22nd, 2010
Maybe we should have a poll to see how many people think it is a great idea for Chipper to be hunting after tearing his 15 million dollar ACL.
Amen brotha! Just ask Ron Gant!
Anybody for bringing back Andruw? Can he still play center? What did he hit 19 homers last year? in how many at bats? He was the greatest centerfielder ever until he fell off the planet. Why is there such animosity towards him. Only 2 outfielders in history have more gold gloves. Alright, he doesn’t hit for average and Ks alot. If he gets to 500 homers, doesn’t he get into the Hall with his 10 gold gloves? Why are Atlantans so down on the second face of the franchise. If he’s in shape, ain’t he better than McLoser (who I don’t recall seeing any assists from in 2010). In fact, on several occasions McLoser had a throw to make and he punked out for some reason. Is his arm hurt?
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 22nd, 20105:13 pm
Matty D is a nice player! he fits the braves club well… with that said i think turnover in a ballclub can be a really good thing i think if you can bring someone up or cut payroll or replace a few players in order to make the team look different than the year before can be a really good thing for a clubhouse. matt seems like a guy who overachieved in his first few years and i think that roll on the team (players who overachieve) is no longer something matt is cut out for. i love matt im a big fan of him and i hate to see him go but i dont think the braves should or will bring him back.
November 22nd, 20105:14 pm
JeanE – why is Diaz so valuable? He’s a free swinger who can’t hit righties and plays bad defense. I think he’s a great guy who is good in the clubhouse, but he’ll be 33 in Spring Training…bye bye Matty.
November 22nd, 20105:17 pm
Andruw could be brought to maybe — MAYBE — platoon in LF… and then probably only if Prado has to move to 3B full-time. He fits the bill of a part-time player at this point in his career- and if he’s willing to accept that role, then he could be a fit because of his past in ATL and the fact that this is still his home. Then again, that could lead to complacency, too.
November 22nd, 20105:19 pm
Andruw, seriously Stew? He’s 34 and can’t play CF anymore…he’s right where he belongs…role player on an AL team…either that or retired…
Here ya’ go Chipper, here’s how to get away with the Carrie Underwood remark; say that you MEANT, your wife is a huge Carrie Underwood fan, so if Carrie Underwood is performing, then your wife will surely want to go.
Andruw… nice to know you… i said it then ill say it again
not much different than francoeur
November 22nd, 20105:20 pm
Carrie Underwood may have married a hunter but she is totally in bed with PETA as she donated $100,000 to the anti’s this year. Wonder how she explained that one to her huntin’ hubby!
It probably went something like this. “Honey, I want my money to do the Maximum amount of good, so I’m deducting this $100,000 from your allowance.”
November 22nd, 20105:21 pm
Pujols played in a worse park offensively and had better numbers.
Votto did hit for a better average, get on base more, and slug a little heavier. Votto’s park adjusted weighted on base average is better. WAR is split on the two as fangraphs like Votto a little more and baseball-reference likes Pujols a little more. Votto did win fairly handily in Win Probability Added by 6.85 to Pujols’ 5.38 which takes into account both negative and positive plays. Votto has a good case.
Now, I can’t imagine many voters looked at all of this info. I think Pujols most likely suffers the most not because he wasn’t great, but because he wasn’t as great as he usually is. Lowest average of his career and 2nd lowest OBP and SLG.
@stew, his defense was never a question. His offense was the question.
Here’s hoping Chip’s wheels heal up so he’ll be back on the 2011 team.
OTOH I hope we don’t bring AJ back, in any role. I never liked his little smirks whenever he struck out (and there were lots of smirks).
November 22nd, 20105:25 pm
Andruw has been and always will be better than Frenchy in nearly every facet of the game.
November 22nd, 20105:26 pm
@RC…Is Medlen old enough to be in a bar?
November 22nd, 20105:31 pm
Funyuns and a big gulp???..thats good stuff, I dont care who you are.
Jeter is 35 Chipper is 39. Close maybe at a bar, but not close in sports.
November 22nd, 20105:39 pm
we btter ask the marlins if we can trade mateen to the dback for jerk offf upton
November 22nd, 20105:42 pm
Any guess to why Andruw Jones looks a lot fitter these days! _ Lee in S GA
Diet….. exercise ……… self respect …… pride …… knee surgery …… demanding wife … mistress …. Who knows, maybe someone should ask him.
November 22nd, 20105:46 pm
Meds just turned 25
The Braves need a strong bat (30 hr/100rbi) that can play cf. If they do not get one they will not be any better in 2011. Conyerrs
guess they are SOL then, Got any idea how mant CFers hit 30 homers last season?
November 22nd, 20105:47 pm
I have done a fair amount of that painting stuff, and I know why many painters are alcoholics! _ raleighbravefan
Are they alcoholics because they are painters, or are they painters because they are alcoholics?
I know CAB, he just looks so much younger
The Brewers will offer a 2 year contract for Hinske! Left hand bench player they need! If the Braves want him, 2 Years!
November 22nd, 20105:48 pm
Chipper’s day has come and gone. I enjoyed watching him and appreciated what he has done for the Braves. The last 2 years he has been a shadow of himself, both at the plate and in the field. He has NO range and the best play me made all year was the play where he got hurt. If he comes back it is for greed and not the ability to help this club. The money saved from his and KK’s contract could really help the Braves become a better team.
November 22nd, 20105:51 pm
Phil, his OBP is too high to ignore though
Got any idea how mant CFers hit 30 homers last season?
I’m guessing 2. Hamilton and Wells.
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