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Steve McP
November 23rd, 2010
6:57 pm
What benefit is a salary cap? Of the top 10 teams in salary in 2010 only the Yankees, Phillies and Giants (who were 10th) made the play offs, it is not all about buying success.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
6:58 pm
liberty JS and Wren dont listen to us…. hell if they did who knows what the team would look like… we would be looking at the 2nd yr of Griffy and prolly be begging for smoltz back in the pen…
the team runs on its fans but it doesnt make its team due to what the fans think… if they did they would be sold back to ted and would likely have Mark T holding our payroll down.
people love coke products but the CEO doesnt care what you think of who he hires and what he does…
yankee fans may not like it if jeter moves on or is disrespected but they will not care once they start the 162. yankee fans will still show up and jeter would just be a blip on the radar.
they really dont have to listen to fans… look where it got the mets
ncscoots
November 23rd, 2010
7:01 pm
Not to sound pompous but there are a lot of folks who are baseball fans whether the teams has a winning season or not.
Yeah, but it’s the squeaky wheel here, nolie. Between screaming bandwagoners and droning stats-is-The-Holy-Grail-ers, it might seem that actual, real baseball fans are in the minority…but I don’t believe it. Not really.
braveschick
November 23rd, 2010
7:01 pm
found this blog just now. love all the braves talk…go braves! =)
Ease® in Woodstock
November 23rd, 2010
7:05 pm
I feel like I have been Rick Rolled…minus the good song…
ncscoots
November 23rd, 2010
7:05 pm
found this blog just now. love all the braves talk…go braves!
Yeah, but will you still love us when we talk about barbecue and banana pudding?
CB
November 23rd, 2010
7:06 pm
braveschick,welcome. Always room for more.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:06 pm
in business do you think people care if they are petty?
jeter has his heart in this contract… the yankees have money in it
i dont think hal or hank really care if they look petty. they have a job to do. they have to do the best job they can if it means they are called petty or not… i dont think they care… jeter is great but… isnt it the yankee way of thinking “it doesnt matter we’ll just buy a better one anyway”?
jeter is more expendable than everyone thinks
Snotboogie
November 23rd, 2010
7:11 pm
people love coke products but the CEO doesnt care what you think of who he hires and what he does…
Huge problem with this analogy. Jeter is part of the product, he is in fact one of the products. He is not an executive working in the 10th floor of the Coke office that you dont think about when drinking a can of coke. So fans do and will care about it if he is thrown overboard because they would rather overpay for some new guy.
Ease® in Woodstock
November 23rd, 2010
7:12 pm
Between screaming bandwagoners and droning stats-is-The-Holy-Grail-ers, it might seem that actual, real baseball fans are in the minority
scoots – kinda agree…I played baseball first a) cause I was good at it, b) because I loved the game. And this was in spite of growing up in the 80’s and watching some pretty bad Braves teams, whom I grew to love…Now that I can no longer play, and I don’t get to see the Braves as often as I like, it’s still baseball, whether Pirates, Royals, etc, etc…and yes, even Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies or Mets. There is more to a game than the colors a person wears…
Efrim
November 23rd, 2010
7:13 pm
Yeah, Cashman is taking a hard stance with Jeter. I understand he has regressed and isn’t even worth what they had offered him, but what is the point? Yankees could spend 300 million on their players without breaking a sweat. It’s not like Jeter is “just another guy”. Not to mention they gave Burnett 82.5 million over five years. If they aren’t willing to go four years, then fine, I understand that. But just go ahead and give him 18 per through 2013 and call it a day. After that, go back the truck up for Tulo….
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:14 pm
Not to beat a dead hores… but if jeter wants respect… he is lucky he even got an offer… the fact that he was offered a contract by his old team should mean something to the guy… there are about 26 other teams that wouldnt have even made him a contract offer… he should feel lucky he ever played in the bronx.
its business not grade school.
braveschick
November 23rd, 2010
7:15 pm
thank you CB. not sure how many 22 year old girls you got in this blog. but i do have knowledge of the braves
ncscoots
November 23rd, 2010
7:16 pm
i dont think hal or hank really care if they look petty.
Then, that would make them either uncaring of their franchise’s history or perhaps just simply obtuse. If they believe in the legacy of the franchise (and their father, by the way), then they shouldn’t appear parsimonious with a Yankee captain. Certainly, working a slimy backdoor campaign in the press is beneath their (ostensible) image.
Hard to claim the high ground of The Universe’s Greatest Sports Franchise when you’re acting like Jeffrey Loria, is what I’m sayin’.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:18 pm
Huge problem with this analogy. Jeter is part of the product, he is in fact one of the products. He is not an executive working in the 10th floor of the Coke office that you dont think about when drinking a can of coke. So fans do and will care about it if he is thrown overboard because they would rather overpay for some new guy.
not true… look at bernie williams… the game goes on… jeter is a nice lable on coke but the people still buy coke if the lable has santa on it or the easter bunny… jeter doesn change the attendance the merch. the people who show up to see them outside of ny it doesnt change the yankee brand in any way… it honestly doesnt change anything and the fans get over things fast! like the very next game!
Efrim
November 23rd, 2010
7:18 pm
Few random arbitration thoughts:
Brewers offer Hoffman arbitration?!?! http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/110243579.html
D-Backs offering LaRoche arbitration was a surprise, although I don’t really think they have anyone to play first next year and Adam may just end up accepting.
Rockies offering arbitration to Dotel was something I didn’t expect.
Red Sox offering arbitration to Felipe Lopez….(I wish our org. philosophy was like there’s. Draft picks are so important to them…..I wish I could say the same for the Braves)
It’s been a little crazy this year. Poor Braves second rounder won’t be until 100 at this rate.
Snotboogie
November 23rd, 2010
7:20 pm
Eric
huh? Why – he is 35. He had one bad season and he still plays good defense. Why would you think 26 others teams wont make him an offer? This is very similar to the Chipper situation – you think Chipper would’ve walked away happily with a 3 yr – 18M offer instead of the one he got?
ncscoots
November 23rd, 2010
7:21 pm
There is more to a game than the colors a person wears
“Baseball, Ray.”
Not “The Braves, Ray”, or “The Red Sox, Ray”. Ease is on the money, as usual.
Ahh, don’t get me started on this, LOL. I’m liable to go all Ring Lardner on you guys and wax poetic, then have to beat up ten guys who think I’m sissified for doing it.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:22 pm
yankees wont lose fans just cus jeter left to play for houston … see also roger and andy! life goes on they dont miss a beat and i would think they make more money than the last year cus thats what the yankees do… so why is jeter so important to this club other than a couple fans being sad… its baseball fans of 29 teams get very sad once a year… and if you were the lucky one not to get sad on any given year… wait till next year… youll be crying
Steve McP
November 23rd, 2010
7:22 pm
braveschick
November 23rd, 2010
7:15 pm
thank you CB. not sure how many 22 year old girls you got in this blog. but i do have knowledge of the braves
+++++++
Well that puts you ahead of the curve versus a lot people on here
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:24 pm
huh? Why – he is 35. He had one bad season and he still plays good defense. Why would you think 26 others teams wont make him an offer? This is very similar to the Chipper situation – you think Chipper would’ve walked away happily with a 3 yr – 18M offer instead of the one he got?
i mean if he was on about 26 other teams, when he came up for free agentcy he wouldnt have been offered a contract by the team he was on… he is lucky he is a yankee so he can be offered a contract,
Snotboogie
November 23rd, 2010
7:24 pm
Dude you are no longer beating a dead horse – you’ve missed the target by a bit and it’s the friendly dog that is lying dead.
Braveheart
November 23rd, 2010
7:26 pm
Vales ruined the Fredo thing for me (BTW, Vales, Fredo was not the younger brother of Michael). Now I can’t use that anymore. It’s kind of like the time I turned on the radio while driving to lunch and I heard Colin Cowherd going on and on and on about how Animal House was outdated and hadn’t held up. He was stealing my material, and I didn’t like that it was coming from Cowherd. So I changed my mind, and now believe Animal House to be a hilarious classic that has aged like fine wine.
braveschick
November 23rd, 2010
7:26 pm
lol thanks Steve McP. my whole family are braves fan, so thats how i got my advantage
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:28 pm
Dude you are no longer beating a dead horse – you’ve missed the target by a bit and it’s the friendly dog that is lying dead.
sorry i get a little worked up about the evil empire of the empire state… i have to battle them day in and day out up here… anyway fans up here agree with my stance and dont want to over pay him…
so um … how bout them braves… uggla gunna finally hit 40 this year? b macc 30? that would be nice!
CB
November 23rd, 2010
7:30 pm
braveschick,there are some good young ladies on this blog who fit right in with the conversations. Main thing is don’t be offended by the dummies who know nothing,like me.
Snotboogie
November 23rd, 2010
7:31 pm
sorry i get a little worked up about the evil empire of the empire state… i have to battle them day in and day out up here… anyway fans up here agree with my stance and dont want to over pay him…
Very understandable. I dont live anywhere close by and still dislike them a lot. Cant really explain why. Must be quite bad being a Braves fan in enemy territory for you.
braveschick
November 23rd, 2010
7:31 pm
haha oh ok, thanks for the heads up CB =)
Snotboogie
November 23rd, 2010
7:32 pm
Main thing is don’t be offended by the dummies who know nothing,like me.
And watch out for people who sandbag you.
ncscoots
November 23rd, 2010
7:34 pm
Vales ruined the Fredo thing for me
Aww, man, don’t be that way, LOL. I was looking forward to some more of that.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:36 pm
Very understandable. I dont live anywhere close by and still dislike them a lot. Cant really explain why. Must be quite bad being a Braves fan in enemy territory for you.
Ummm i think my hate started in 1996… and got bigger in 1999… im a bigger braves fan up here than about 90% of yankee fans ive ever met… see also november 23 on the braves blog on the AJC. its pretty bad when you wake up on september 15th as early as you can… (before the braves advertize it) and check out the next yr schedule to see what day im going to see the braves in seattle in 2011… yeah i love this blog cus there are countless #’s of me posting pluss insiders!
nolie
November 23rd, 2010
7:38 pm
Lou ruins a lot of stuff
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:39 pm
i mean countless #’s of fans like me
Murph
November 23rd, 2010
7:39 pm
Bah, Lou didn’t ruin anything other than his wife’s birthday and his kid’s future. He has no affect on the blog unless you let him. Just ignore him and move on.
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
7:41 pm
I honestly have gained so much respect for the Yankees after finding out there approach towards Derek Jeter. They gave him an offer and said if dont like it try to go fond a better one on the market.
Joel Sherman of the New York Post, Jeter’s position in the negotiations is essentially “I am Derek Jeter, pay me.”
3 year 45 million is a blessing from the Yankees. TAKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
7:43 pm
Eric
We gotta meet up sometime during the season. Its tough to find die hard braves fan in the same city especially in New York.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:43 pm
Joel Sherman ugh!!! … the only 2 people i cant stand more are tim mccarver and CB Bucknor
nolie
November 23rd, 2010
7:44 pm
they are likely just gonna take what they keep from Jeter and spend it on more free agents which denigrates home grown talent & exalts mercenaries. Kinda surprised y’all think that is cool since so many complain about the cost of free agents and how poorly home grown heroes are treated. But hey, whatever; just don’t see a lot of consistency in the stance
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:45 pm
We gotta meet up sometime during the season. Its tough to find die hard braves fan in the same city especially in New York.
Im Down!!!
saw some guy in the price chopper by X-gates mall on saturday… i didnt say anything cus a lot of people up here just like the hat… =)
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:49 pm
NOLIE… sometimes we like to play GM… sometimes we like to piss and moan about the system… i think a lot of my stance has to do with paying chipper jones another 2 years. i think im taking my anger out on jeter now cus i would never say a bad word about my chipper. =)
braveschick
November 23rd, 2010
7:49 pm
yea i like how the yanks are playing hard ball with jeter. wouldnt it be something if he was on another team?
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
7:50 pm
Eric
I notice that a lot too, i just think to myself that even if they dont like the Braves at least they contributed to there payroll in someway. Keep buying the hats.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:50 pm
not that i even think chipper ripped the club off… i know he has saved the club lots of money… but i guess he is under playing his contract right now… its all just a sad thing that im taking my chipper frustrations out on jeter ,,, but hey its the yankees so F Him!
SoWeGa Fanatic
November 23rd, 2010
7:51 pm
Wow, you guys were on a roll today.
nolie
November 23rd, 2010
7:52 pm
, but hey its the yankees so F Him! Eric
hey, I’ll go along with that !
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
7:53 pm
Eric
Chipper has been underpaid his WHOLE career. I honestly dont mind if we give him some extra loot the past couple years.
Derek Jeter got paid 22.6 MILLION this year. Thats not including the hundreds of endorsements he has.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:53 pm
Brave4life
Do you have XM or the MLB Package On timewarner? keep coming to the ajc even if u dont post you can get all your inside stuff faster than all your friends!!! believe it or not i tell my friends in atlanta what the braves do b4 they hear it most of the time.
CB
November 23rd, 2010
7:54 pm
I would love to see the Red Sox get involved with Jeter – wouldn’t that be a spit in the eye?
Braveheart
November 23rd, 2010
7:54 pm
Chipper will not be worth what we pay him, that’s a guarantee.
This guarantee… is this baseball related, as in, game performance, or business related? I think it would be rather myopic to only view this from an on-field value level. Chipper will bring in the money even if he isn’t playing up to his 1999 MVP standards. He’s a very important part of the team.
Good point, 10Paul. If I walked around my office building, and asked every person in the building to name me some Braves, I guarantee there will only be two that each can name: Chipper Jones and Jason Heyward. What the value of that is to the franchise, I ain’t sure.
For alot of them, I’ll hear the names of Justice and Gant and McGriff and Smoltz and and Maddux and Glavine mentioned more than the names of McLouth and Prado and Freeman and Lowe and Hanson and Hudson. It is what it is.
I mean, for crying out loud, there’s one retarded janitor in my building who loves to talk my ear off about the career of Marvin Freeman, but he can’t name one reliever presently pitching for the Braves. Those almost daily conversations with that guy are always 5 minutes of my life I’ll never get back.
Danga
November 23rd, 2010
7:54 pm
I think it would be a crime for Jeter to finish his career elsewhere.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:55 pm
Brave4life…. this was my post to correct my comment
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:50 pm
not that i even think chipper ripped the club off… i know he has saved the club lots of money… but i guess he is under playing his contract right now… its all just a sad thing that im taking my chipper frustrations out on jeter ,,, but hey its the yankees so F Him!
braveschick
November 23rd, 2010
7:55 pm
lol if jeter played for the redsox, he would have to wear and play in a bullet proof vest when they go visit yankee stadium
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
7:56 pm
Eric In Albany N.Y.
I have MLB extra innings package. I also had ESPN insider which was WORTHLESS last year. I just go to MLB trade Rumors from now on. I have been on this blog since the beginning of the 2010 season. Nick is by far my favorite blogger,
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:56 pm
Danga
November 23rd, 2010
7:54 pm
I think it would be a crime for Jeter to finish his career elsewhere.
Call the cops when it happens see where it gets ya
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
7:58 pm
I Have XM and I Get MLB,tv its easier for me cus im not home a lot in the summer… i can watch them whenever and hear them when i cant watch
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
7:59 pm
NO ONE WILL PAY JETER close to 45 million over 3 years
as fellow blogger tomahawkin would say, BANK ON IT
Efrim
November 23rd, 2010
7:59 pm
These back door agreements with teams and Type B free agents really tick me off. The system sucks and I hope draft pick compensation is eliminated at some point…..
I could just be saying that because the Braves never take advantage and I’m jealous, but hey, just sayin….
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
8:00 pm
i think it would be hard to find a team to even go the 3rd year much less 2 and an opt.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
8:00 pm
and im not even putting a $ amount on it
McFann O O
November 23rd, 2010
8:00 pm
Eric b macc 30? that would be nice!
Yeah, it would…but y’all know my stance on that:
[Everybody!] I’d gladly take around (even slightly less than) 20 homers if it came with 40+ Doubles!
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
8:01 pm
Eric
I cant watch the Braves game on my laptop. too small of a screen. I got my basement with the whole theater system going on. It was awesome during the playoffs when Ankiel hit that bomb. It was a different story with brooks conrad………………………a good dude (as DOBwould say)
braveschick
November 23rd, 2010
8:01 pm
Brave4life- if the yankees cant get a deal done with jeter, i’m sure other teams might reconsider on giving jeter a good 4 year deal
SoWeGa Fanatic
November 23rd, 2010
8:02 pm
The talking heads on XM’s baseball channel were saying today theYanks should pay Jeter more because of the 5 rings he won them. I wonder what happened the other 24 guys. If Jeter doesn’t take 3 yrs for $45 mill, he is a fool.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
8:02 pm
McFann O O
IM A BIG DOUBLES GUY!!! I REMEMBER WHEN THE BRAVES USED TO CIRCLE THE BASES WITH DOUBLE AFTER DOUBLE AFTER DOUBLE… Chipper used to hit them like it was his job… oh wait… it was!
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
8:03 pm
Mcfann
I feel bad for McCann right now, because i have a feeling Posey is going to beat him out for the allstar game next year. McCann has been snubbed for too many years.
SoWeGa Fanatic
November 23rd, 2010
8:03 pm
Nobody outside of NY would give Jeter 4 years. That puts him at 42 and he is already in decline.
Tomahawkin
November 23rd, 2010
8:04 pm
“Bing!”
“Get Out The WAYYY
Boom!, Pretty Boy Coming Through! Me And My Crew! We Swaggin In The Room!”
Bat Masterson
November 23rd, 2010
8:04 pm
found this blog just now. love all the braves talk…go braves! =) _ braveschick
Just what this blog needs, more braveschick’s. Welcome aboard
CB
November 23rd, 2010
8:04 pm
braveschick,McFann is one of our lovely blog ladies. She is lovely until you say something bad about Brian McCann,then you better duck!
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
8:05 pm
braveschick
you have to remember the Yankees offer iis 3 years 45 million
If teams went 4 years they would go TOPS 40 million. Brian Cashman obviously knows the market now considering that he directly told Jeter to test the market.
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
8:06 pm
if the team that jeter played for his whole career wont give him 4 years (and they know him better than any one and any scout)… another team isnt giving him 4… if another team goes for him and gets their chance it will end up like andruw, manny, and damon, 2 years tops and expect the chances to be pretty high that 2nd year is an opt and maybe a player opt
braveschick
November 23rd, 2010
8:06 pm
haha mccann is awesome. best hitting catcher in the national league, as long as buster posey doesnt go nuts hahahaha =)
Tomahawkin
November 23rd, 2010
8:06 pm
Brave4life
“NO ONE WILL PAY JETER close to 45 million over 3 years
as fellow blogger tomahawkin would say, BANK ON IT”
That Phrase That pays is starting to get plagarized on here, but Its so much sweeter when T-Hawkin says it…
I don’t really have no bold predictions to make at this time…
One of these days I’m going to make one of those posts on 680AM the Fan…
I really like the Chuck and Matt Show…
Tomas
November 23rd, 2010
8:07 pm
Totally agree with Cashman on the Jeter situation they offered him the best possible deal by far of what he could get in the market.
I could see the Giants offering 3 yrs 42 million though. Maybe he is tired of all the bu11sh1t that New York brings to the table and whats a change of scenery. Good I want to see Yankee fans suffer.
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
8:07 pm
Derek Jeter is 36 years old. He will not keep that bat speed up for another 4 years.
Tomas
November 23rd, 2010
8:08 pm
wants not whats in my last comment
Tomahawkin
November 23rd, 2010
8:08 pm
Bat Masterson
“found this blog just now. love all the braves talk…go braves! =) _ braveschick”
Just what this blog needs, more braveschick’s. Welcome aboard
Co-Sign, Braveschick, Welcome To the Dogg-House! I will take you under my wing
SEC chicks that go all out for them Braves Kick Ass!
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
8:09 pm
Tomas
If i were the Giants i would just go after Jerry Hairston. cheaper, and almost as productive
Carroll Rogers
November 23rd, 2010
8:10 pm
Just saw that my good friend Dan Connelly of the Baltimore Sun is tweeting that the Royals are interested in Kevin Millwood….yet another former Brave of interest to the former Braves scouting director Dayton Moore…..And wait, Millwood is 35? How’d that happen so fast?
braveschick
November 23rd, 2010
8:10 pm
brave4life- jeter is still productive and will also sell ALOT of merchandise to whatever team he plays for. i dont think any team would go well beyond 3 years 45 million, but i think some teams would consider a 4 year 60 million contract
Ease® in Woodstock
November 23rd, 2010
8:10 pm
If Jeter ends up playing for the Red Sox, then we can say…He got the Smoltz treatment….
My personal opinion…Icons are of days past, and yet are still invaluable to a franchise, because not many teams left have them, and when they lose them, the franchise takes a hit. I mean players will always be associated with the team that they spent the majority of their career with, but to what does degree that respect flow, toward the player, or toward the franchise?
In most cases, it is not the player, but the franchise who take the tumble…
SoWeGa Fanatic
November 23rd, 2010
8:10 pm
ooops, I thought Jeter was 38.
Tomahawkin
November 23rd, 2010
8:11 pm
CB
“braveschick,McFann is one of our lovely blog ladies. She is lovely until you say something bad about Brian McCann,then you better duck!”
You Bring up a good point…
Wayyy back in the blogs early days D.O.B. used to post what bloggers on here were like in real life. ya know the blogs early days before it Blew up on facebook and Twitter
And BTW am I the only one who doesn’t use Twitter?
Not To mention its almost time for the 2nd Annula D.O.B. blog awards…
Carroll Rogers
November 23rd, 2010
8:12 pm
Lou, I’m not disagreeing with what you describe, I’m just saying that you were all over the place in the point you were trying to make. Like maybe you shouldn’t quit your day job kinda thing. Just poking fun a little. Striking a nerve instead.
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
8:12 pm
SoWeGa Fanatic
38, thats our ole’ friend Chippppppa Joneees
SoWeGa Fanatic
November 23rd, 2010
8:12 pm
braveschick, you’re wrong…but, I’m glad you’re here. (Someone throw a smiley face in for me.)
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
8:13 pm
alright im out guys, have fun blogging and venting
Tomahawkin
November 23rd, 2010
8:13 pm
I could care Less about Jeter…
I detest Greedy men like him and his agent in this tough economy more and more with all the BS he does to make his pockets fatter…
I’m just checking on what that team in Philly as well as the Rotten Apple do this offseason…
SoWeGa Fanatic
November 23rd, 2010
8:14 pm
Brave4life
November 23rd, 2010
8:12 pm
SoWeGa Fanatic
38, thats our ole’ friend Chippppppa Joneees
************
Yeah, I know, but didn’t want to think about that. Thanks a lot.
Ease® in Woodstock
November 23rd, 2010
8:14 pm
Co-Sign, Braveschick, Welcome To the Dogg-House! I will take you under my wing
there are better wings to fly under….
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
8:15 pm
My personal opinion…Icons are of days past, and yet are still invaluable to a franchise, because not many teams left have them, and when they lose them, the franchise takes a hit. I mean players will always be associated with the team that they spent the majority of their career with, but to what does degree that respect flow, toward the player, or toward the franchise?
In most cases, it is not the player, but the franchise who take the tumble…
i find it hard to believe the yankees would lose any money over the loss of jeter and i find it hard to believe the yankees would take a tumble if jeter didnt end up back with them… lets be real here people… yankees will be fine without him
braveschick
November 23rd, 2010
8:15 pm
sowega fanatic- derek lowe has a 4 year 60 million dollar contract jeter>lowe….maybe?
Tomahawkin
November 23rd, 2010
8:15 pm
Philly fans are in a stoic mode on the philly.com/phils forum…
Since the Red Faux lost V-Mart to the tigers that means the Red Faux will go hard after Jason Werth…
Tomahawkin
November 23rd, 2010
8:18 pm
Ease® in Woodstock
[Co-Sign, Braveschick, Welcome To the Dogg-House! I will take you under my wing]
“there are better wings to fly under….”
OUCH…And On The Other hand are you going out to NE Arkansas? for T-Day?
SoWeGa Fanatic
November 23rd, 2010
8:20 pm
I heard the Mets’ new GM on XM today, and he sounds a lot smarter than their last guy. Mets’ payroll after next year drops to $60 mill, giving them a lot of leverage considering it’s $140 mill now. With the new manager, who has always won, the Mutts may be shaping up in a few years.
Ease® in Woodstock
November 23rd, 2010
8:20 pm
My point was general…the fact that his is a Yankee is a moo point…
How are the icons in your lifetime (if you want to argue the point)?
Eric In Albany N.Y.
November 23rd, 2010
8:21 pm
sowega fanatic- derek lowe has a 4 year 60 million dollar contract jeter>lowe….maybe?
Lowe was an innings eater up to that point… still is… he also was the cornerstone to change the perception of the braves to other players who didnt think of the braves as a contender… he was in a way more valuable to the braves…. and their future than jeter would be to the future of a ballclub who may pick him up as a rent a player for 4 years. pitchers are more of an impact player than a SS with declining ability,… The Braves are could have ended up with AJ but they got D Lowe!… good signing!
Ease® in Woodstock
November 23rd, 2010
8:23 pm
T-hawkin’ – HELL NO…I am a GA boy…no roots in ARK besides what I married…Just givin’ grief,,,,!
SoWeGa Fanatic
November 23rd, 2010
8:23 pm
braveschick
November 23rd, 2010
8:15 pm
sowega fanatic- derek lowe has a 4 year 60 million dollar contract jeter>lowe….maybe?
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We were desperate for pitching in a sound economy. I wouldn’t have given Lowe the 4th year either. Of course, then he would have been in New York.
Bat Masterson
November 23rd, 2010
8:24 pm
And BTW am I the only one who doesn’t use Twitter? _ Tomahawkin
Hardly