6:26 pm November 16, 2010, by David O'Brien
November 16th, 20108:02 pm
crawford does not like to play CF – besided, he is probably going to the angels.
November 16th, 20108:03 pm
Uggla is not that bad defensively. He had a lot of errors but also had a lot more chances and games than most at his position.
BTW, the people on here hating this deal are so far the only fans on the entire internet I have heard complain. Folks from every other team over on mlbtraderumors and such are calling this a straight up hwy robbery of the Marlins by the Bravos. The marlins fans there are hanging their heads and cursing their GM!!! This is an amazing trade. It really is. Seriously, say it with me …utility infielder who had a career high OPS of under .800 and a good lh pen arm with control issues for a 2nd baseman with a career OPS of .850+ who average over 30 hr’s……… It’s such a no brainer? we didn’t trade prospects, we didn’t move Delgado, Vizcaino, Teheran , Minor,Beachy, Marek….etc This is nothing like the Tex or JD Drew deals…….. It’s one of the best trades in franchise history.
By the way, not all muscle guys are on roids. Ron Gant was not on roids, and Uggla is not either.
John Wayne, Johnny Cash, John Deere
November 16th, 20108:04 pm
Frank Wren- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMqfBlMjU0A
November 16th, 20108:05 pm
I will have see this “defense is not that bad” before I believe it. Hubbard is gone. And from what I have seen of Uggla, he is a pretty bad fielder.
Dave O'Briens Brain
Enter your comments herethe Cardinals expect talks to heat up with Albert Pujols within the month, they may also be looking at a former All-Star second baseman. Though the free-agent market is short on second basemen, the Florida Marlins’ willingness to make power-hitting Dan Uggla available for trade has caught the Cardinals’ notice.
Read more: http://www.fannation.com/#ixzz15UtcLBoD
Could we now package Uggla to St Louis for Colby?
Don't touch my Junk!
Bill Hall can play 7 positions instead of 6..just looked at his stats and he pitched a complete inning .no hit, runs=0.00 EA. Hope Wren checks him out. Anyone know his agent?
Still need more
Not over the top in love with this trade and im not going to railroad the trade. I’m hoping that Wren doesn’t just stop here because while we upgraded ourselves defensively we’ve drowngraded what was already a bad defense. Time to get some true outfielders and it also might be time for Chipper to play more of a role off the bench. Really, at 39… how many games are we truly expecting to see him play this year? How many times next year are we going to have to go to Brooks or Mather to play games at 3rd or 2nd… or see Prado moved down to 3rd and have Mather or Diaz play LF with McLouth out in center.
Frank, i implore you… go after one of the Uptons or even Kemp. Get a natural outfielder! Add some more speed to an even slower line up that you just created.
Good move Frank Wren!! May I ask how u pulled that one off?? You must have had some nude photos of someone in the Marlins organization!! Lol just kidding.. I hope the Braves can sign Uggla to an contract extension but if they don’t they basically gave Dunn for an upgrade from Infante to Uggla. Plus we have a surplus of lefties and we traded from our strength. I don’t think the Braves need to go out and max out their payroll before the season starts in case later in the season if Chipper gets hurt again we have the flexibilty to replace him or bring Prado to 3rd and get an OF.. Gives us options. Plus we are gonna need a couple veterans in the bullpen after losing Wags and Siato.. I would say let McClouth try to get back on track possibly with our new hitting coach and bring in…… Wait for it….. Listen Frank Wren……………..bring back Andruw Jones.. He will command a salary under 1million and the last 2 years with under 300 at bats each season he has hit 17hr and 19 hr.. Plus he has passed his Fat Albert days and seems to be in better shape.. Plus he is only 33 yrs old. I know he will bat only .220 but he always played good defense and still has power. Also Braves fans would be excited to have him back!! Upton will bat about the same and cost us prospects..
November 16th, 20108:06 pm
Although I love Omar as much as everyone else does, this is a great deal for ATL regardless of whether they can resign Uggla. It’s really not even debateable.
Or Wren may have said this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daoV-LsINiA
whoops better quailty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85cL1HisrNc&feature=related
fslusser seminole 58
I said I would wait & see what we would have to give up to get a good hitter, but I was not thinking of infante. I might like this trade if we did not have to give away our top hitter, and then face him all next year. Why not Gonzales I still do not think he is going to hit enough to justify keeping him. It does not matter because we don’t have any in put on the trades to begin with so we root for the cards that are delt our way.
November 16th, 20108:07 pm
Is Uggla and update defensively over Conrad? I’ll have to wait and see before I ‘OK’ this trade. FW – you’re on notice.
November 16th, 20108:11 pm
I would love to see Uggla packaged in a Rasmus deal. That would truly make the team stronger. Keep Prado at 2nd and get a good CF with some speed and some power. I like the Uggla trade, but his hands of stone keep it from being an absolute OMG upgrade to the team. It was a great trade though, and I’m glad we did it.
Tony Graffanino is available
Uggla’s defense matches his name. His offense is pretty, though. Still, Infante? I hate having to give him up. We lose 40 points in b.a. and better defense. FW gave us Jair and Javier Vasquez, so it’s possible he knows more than me.
Now, if we can just get Chip to do the right thing and ride into the sunset, we could use his 16 mil…
This is an even trade. Omar is a really good baseball player. It’s a matter of needing power, which Uggla provides, to balance the lineup. Omar doesn’t figure to hit .321 again, but he will hit for a good average. But no power. We have enough guys like that in the lineup. Uggla has to hit cleanup. McCann is much better suited for the 5 hole. I think Heyward should hit third and Chipper 6th behind McCann. It’s a spot suited to his game now, and if he’s healthy, he can produce a lot there. Sign Podsednik to hit leadoff. Prado second. Keep all the pitching. It’s a real good team that could win the division.
How can this NOT help the BRAVES?
Omar had a breakout season…we need POWER and INSURANCE…plus Freddi knows him!!!
Nice trade Wren!!!
November 16th, 20108:12 pm
Infante our best hitter? Eli Marrero hit .330 for the Braves a while back in a similar role to Omar’s. Would you have called him our best hitter? Ridiculous, I’m going to make a cocktail.
ATLER (ramblin wreck)
Can we get more African American player on this team????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why do we always cater to the rednecks in this state!!!!!!!!!!!!! BTW Micheal Vick looked awesome, Falcons should have kept him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now bring it on haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chattvol…exactly…this is an average trade if you count 1) he is a rental player 2) 3rd lowest fielding % for 2B in MLB in 2010. 3) FW says this is “our big deal”. Given this…our defense still is in terrible shape, we have zero team speed and the worst OF in MLB for the FOURTH year in a row.
November 16th, 20108:13 pm
Infante wasn’t our best hitter!!!!! He wasn’t even in the top 5!!!!
team OPS numbers:
He has little power. He is a good slap hitter, but good slap hitters aren’t better than guys like Uggla who last year put up an OPS of .877!!! He would have been the best hitter on the team!!!
November 16th, 20108:14 pm
ChattaVol, I am a defensive upgrade over Conrad at second.
Uggla is better at getting on base than Infante
Infante wasnt going to start anyways
This is a good trade for a few reasons:
1. We sign Uggla to an extension and have a power bat…
2. Uggla walks, but has an outstanding year b/c he’ll be a free agent
3. We get 2 picks if he walks…
JC from DR!
November 16th, 20108:15 pm
There goes Omah! He will be missed!
Great move Wren, if we cant beat Uggla, then let’s make him a Brave! LOL!
BJ Upton is black enough and lazy enough to fill the void. I see your hater and raise you a hater.
ok fellow braves fans who do yall think will be the next last name put on the back of a braves jersey
upton either one
Kerry…are you on crack? No one who watched Andruw play his last three years with the Bravos would be ‘excited to have him back’! He was a guaranteed GIDP with runners on base, unless you got lucky and he only struck out with runners in scoring position. We have enough centerfielders who can’t hit.
November 16th, 20108:16 pm
I was all excited to get on this blog and join in on the fun of enjoying one of the most lopsided trades in recent memory (remember the Tim Hudson deal). And I get here and people are actually mad that Wren acquired exactly what this team needed (a power hitting right hander to hit cleanup) without giving up a single legitimate prospect. I’m shocked. Absolutely shocked that anyone could not like this deal. Shocked. Did I mention I’m shocked.
ATLER: I agree with you Vick was Sick last night…and we brought in Lee…never were gonna resign him…brought in Anderson…and well he played like he didnt want to be here. Prolly cause he was alone if you know what i mean.
November 16th, 20108:17 pm
Atler, I don’t agree with the red-neck crap but I would love to see BILLY HALL playing for Braves.
I will take BJ
November 16th, 20108:18 pm
We get 2 picks if we offer him arbitration, and he would probably get 10-12 million in arb .. so it’s not a definite that the Braves would risk it.
Just wanted to put that out there.
dpelfry…we couldve gotten the power numbers by getting Burrell. and he doesnt figure into the amount of balls in play that the butcher Uggla does.
Garret Anderson was uppity. Like Kenny Lofton.
November 16th, 20108:19 pm
Omar could play every position he has even caught. That is versatility any team can use.
-"The Boss" G-
NICE NICE trade Frank Wren..you da man!!! Love this move, love Uggla and yes he does rake at the ted! Sad to see omar going but man what a great deal for a top power hitter, so excited.. Wondering though since it seems like chipper will be out of the lineup a good deal (as usual) who will play LF?? Are we gonna acquire a LF or stick with diaz and re up his deal and hope he turns it around from this season…
I live in South Florida and fans down here are DISGUSTED over this trade. Marlins are now without the two fan favorites: Cody Ross and Uggla.
Can’t wait to get my uggla jersey
November 16th, 20108:20 pm
Count..Anderson was uppity to the plate and back downity on the pines as fast as 3 strikes were thrown
why dont you get a life get the h**l off here and quit bring up race people like up give the human race a bad name that has to be the dumbess d**n comment i have ever read shut the h**l up
Wow, wet dreams do come true!
Don't touch my JUNK!
November 16th, 20108:21 pm
Bob Watson retires…good!
Hope Lee resigns with Texas.
ATLer, you’re right, the Falcoons should’ve kept Vick. Of course, it would’ve wreck two seasons not having a quarterback while he
November 16th, 20108:22 pm
Burrell is past his prime. What he showed in SF was a flash in the pan. Uggla is still in his prime and is almost a lock to hit 30 homers and drive in 90 runs. You can take Burrell on your fantasy team, I’m happy to have Uggla on the real Braves.
oops, while Vick was in PRISON. But, hey this is UGGLA’s blog. Good job FW. ATLer, take that race card and put it back in your deck. I’m sure you’ll use it again soon.
November 16th, 20108:23 pm
Looking at defensive stats. Here are the fielding percentages for when these players were playing 2B.
Uggla: career .980, last year .976
Prado: career .982, last year .987
Infante: career .981, last year .978
Where do you see that Uggla is such a liability on defense? He’s far from being one of the best fielding 2B but he’s not bad.
Got a pal that works with the Cardinals that says any trade involving Rasmus will most likely have to include Kimbrel
November 16th, 20108:24 pm
I hope Uggla is good at catching throws from the catcher in right center field
Atler…Why not Fire that Coach at GT named Hewitt..he’s not worth a crap..
THANK GOD. POWER. NOW PLEASE GET ELSBURY, or KEMP
Uggla made on average ONE error every NINE GAMES — not 9 errors in 1 game like Conrad did.
He made 18 errors the entire season. He averages 30 hr’s a year and 100+ rbi’s (more hr’s and rbis than Prado and Infante combined)
2 years ago David Wright won a gold glove with only TWO less errors.
November 16th, 20108:25 pm
November 16th, 2010
dpelfry…we couldve gotten the power numbers by getting Burrell. and he doesnt figure into the amount of balls in play that the butcher Uggla does
I remember when I was 5 and didn’t know much about baseball, too.
You have to watch Uggla to see how had he is at 2nd base. He will not have range, and he will stone hand many balls. He also hits 30+ HRs, so, we can live with it. By the allpstar break, you will see that not all .980 fielding percentages are created equal.
November 16th, 20108:26 pm
DOB, do you think there’s any mutual interest in the Braves and Andruw Jones on a one year deal to be 4th outfielder? He could platoon with McLouth in CF and one of them could play LF if/when Chipper gets hurt. Seems like we still need another OF bat or two, depending on what happens with Hinske & Diaz. Andruw only made 500K last year and hit 19/48 with .827 OPS.
Yuk, Uggla a Brave, gag, I guess I have to get used to it. Hope the homers he hits outweigh the inevitable gaffes at 2nd. And for the love of God, Frank, resign MattE D for the bench. He will turn it around next year and it better not be for another team!!!!!!!!
What Burrell showed us in the World Series (he took an O for the Series) is what he’s got left in the tank.
Jesse you just like Uggla cause he’s white
November 16th, 20108:27 pm
for all u ppl who think this is a bad trade, lets not forget uggla hit .287, the guy can hit and hit hr’s. we need a guy who can hit hr’s so we can be a team that doesn’t rely on walk off hits.
I can’t wait for the season to start. I can, however, wait for the inevitable nicknames that will flood this blog when Mr.Uggla boots a grounder or strikes out with the bases loaded.
Wow! This is huge.
I like Omar and Dunn but this is a potential steal.
I must believe that Uggla will want to stay with Fredi as his manager.
Now I would like to see a Derek Lowe for Jacoby (red sox) or Gardiner (yankees) for some defense and speed in CF. Use the money to extend Uggla and add Crawford as I really feel that Chipper does not have more than 80 games a year in him.
November 16th, 20108:28 pm
It’s about time!
JeanE thanks for some sanity…far to many people following the FW pied piper….this is an average trade at best. Our infield is atrocious. and to the guy that said NO PLATOONING Freeman…yeah…wait till that .212 average goes on for two months…we’ll see about him playing 150 games
November 16th, 20108:29 pm
Vick played like a pit bull let out of the cage last night
Nockahoma's Tent is on Fire!!
November 16th, 20108:30 pm
Great trade. Now lets go get Jacoby Ellsbury to play centerfield and hit lead off and we have another playoff quality team that hopefully can get to the World Series.. Go Braves!!!!
Gonna need at least $185 million to sign Crawford.
jason…he hit .261 man….that’s pretty poor with all those K’s. this is an average trade at best. We have many many more problems to fix.
I guess every baseball columnist/reporter and baseball insider is following the FW pied piper as well. It’s embarrassing that some of you are fellow Braves fans.
November 16th, 20108:31 pm
All of you who would rather have Omar Infante instead of Dan Uggla please move out of the state of GA and start rooting for another team. You are thinking with your hearts, this is a great move NO a tremendous move and if you don’t see that then you know absolutely nothing about baseball.
wait who is playing CF? hope it’s not mcclouth or diaz.
this deal is actually decent – for a change. did Wren really do this himself ? it becomes terrific if Uggla stays after 2011 (unlikely)
to get comp picks for free agents you have to offer them arbitration, so the Braves don’t get 2 picks automatically. they often decline to offer arbitration ( Drew, Laroche, Johnson). they are the only team who has been burned twice by players unexpectedly acceptng arbitration (maddux and Soriano)
Braves opening day line-up (assuming Chipper is back): Prado, Heyward, Jones, McCann, Uggla, Gonzalez, Freeman, McClouth, and pitcher.
Assuming Chipper’s not back: Prado, Heyward, McCann, Uggla, Gonzalez, Freeman, Mather, McClouth, pitcher.
Although, to be fair, we still don’t know if they are going to sign/trade someone else yet.
November 16th, 20108:32 pm
I don’t think Freddi would ok a trade for Upton given the run-ins he as already had for lack of hustle and workouts. In fact, I am not sure we want that kind of cancer on the Braves.
Just ask yourself .. why are the D-Backs in such a rush to trade a top flight young talent? Well?
I wouldn’t touch Upton until his attitude improves. I am not sure about Rasmus as he is a complainer as well, but he hustles and he was complaining because he wanted to play more (and quite frankly he was right). Not sure on Elsbury either as his rib injury could affect his swing for years.
As for the whole race thing .. Atler is probably a white guy just baiting everyone to ruin a good blog. The Braves front office has never backed down from bringing in minorities. McGriff, Lee, Soriano, Pendleton, Anderson, Willie Harris, Renteria, Brian Jordan, Alfonseca, Pena, Sheffield. I could go on and on, but anyone thinking the Braves organization is racist is actually a racist themselves.
I need to correct an earlier post- Uggla is Swedish for “owl”- you all can now sleep better tonight because of this!
I guess all the Braves haters in here must be Yankee fans.. the Braves have desperately needed a power bat for the last few years and we get one and they cry about it. And hey Tony I guess u don’t like it neither!! There are NO quality free agent CF on the market so I said Andruw because he is definately an upgrade and way cheaper that Ankiel.. Plus if anything he could be good odd the bench as a pinch hitter!! Sign Hinske, Andruw, and let Diaz walk..
WhawhawhAAAAA??? Wasn’t expecting that when I opened my laptop tonight…
November 16th, 20108:33 pm
November 16th, 2010
jason…he hit .261 man
check those numbers and get back to us
@ Tony Graffanino is available
Yeah I hated Andruw’s last 3 seasons in Atlanta too… He only hit 51, 41, and 26 Homeruns respectively…. And won 3 straight Gold Gloves, so yeah I hated those last 3 seasons!
Sarcasm obviously doesn’t come through the written word very well. I could care less if Uggla has hands of stone, less range than Prado and only a .980 fielding percentage. Dude can absolutely rake it. Anyone who thinks this is a questionable trade b/c we gave up a utility infielder is nuts. I loved watching Omar play, but come on! A utility IF for a bonafide clean-up hitter who’s not left handed? This is a no-brainer…so those of you doubting this might be over-thinking this just a bit.
Buzzzzed you are high. FW said this is our big move. If so, we get a rental player for 1 yr. a defensive butcher. and no help for the OF. We had a 2B and 3B ALL STAR. Go get a bloody Out fielder.
JD, lets stop the black and white crap. We are all Braves Fans and wish to win. Color don’t make a damn if he can hit, field, throw, run and wants to win. So get a life and learn to live in this world the one the good Lord gave us all. Now shut up and play ball.
November 16th, 20108:34 pm
Hate losing Omar, But YESSSSSS
November 16th, 20108:36 pm
Infante’s contract is also up after this year. It is EARLY in the offseason. FW isn’t done yet. I fully expect us to lose at least one young pitcher this offseason and it will bring us a bat.
It is smarter to let Prado play second and Uggla left
I hope Fredi figures that out
November 16th, 20108:37 pm
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Good trade…. we will see if it is great on the field…..On paper we are a much better team now but the games are played on grass….. This is great chipper insurance and we will be much improved if we get speed and defense in center or a power bat in LF with solid D….. Matt Diaz should go Hinskie a keeper if he will…… Maybe we can pick up an oldtimer to play SS and 2nd base…… and can the conrad…… This is a great start
Prado has more experience in the OF than does Uggla. Martin plays some OF in winterball
November 16th, 20108:38 pm
gr8 trade Wren!
here is an Ideal batting lineup imo
some people would have gripped if they would have got josh hamilton in a trade for infante and dunn never seen anything like it im happy as all get out
JIm (not Mora)
November 16th, 20108:39 pm
Geez…where did this come from? From left field I guess. What a move! Now if Ted can just sell off a few million acres in Montana, and buy the team back………
Careful with Ellsbury. His injuries seem chronic and are a concern.
In Fredi I Trust
I love this move, Uggla is a great pickup. I see us scoring so many more runs this coming season. Sweet deal.
On a side note, I am going to miss Infante. That dude is a gamer, and I am going to hate seeing him play for the Marlins. Oh well, we got our RH power bat now. Now lets upgrade at CF and we should be alright.
INSANITY!!!!!! The Braves traded our BEST player and a promising, fireballing pitcher for Uggla? Now Uggla can contribute to 162 Braves’ losses instead of just the times we play the Marlins.
The ONLY thing good about this is that Uggla did beat us so many times as a Marlin. (What is it with the “U” guys, anyway? We could never beat Uggla, Utley, or (until he went to prison) Urbina.)
If we could have traded some of the deadwood, this could have been a good deal. Has anybody noticed, however, that Uggla plays the same position as Prado?
And they traded Omar Infante?
I repeat, INSANITY!
November 16th, 20108:40 pm
lol agree James
james you were happy about Kawakami too
Reid in EAV
I know I’m getting greedy, but I’d still love to see us add a CF of the speed/OBP variety. And fortunately those guys are a lot more affordable than the Carl Crawfords and Jason Werths of the world.
So… Jacoby Ellsbury? Any of the accountants out there know if there’s a chance we have enough to land him? Or someone like him in a trade? We have a surplus of SPs, so I wouldn’t be too distraught to see a Minor or Beachy move if that’d swing it.
We need some bench flexibility now, but I’m not too worried about the role players. FW does a pretty good job getting those guys here and in the right spots.
james- you are absolutely right. I felt bad for my Marlins friends when they told me of the trade. The mood is not good down here in SoFla
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