6:26 pm November 16, 2010, by David O'Brien
John Wayne, Johnny Cash, John Deere
November 16th, 20107:20 pm
I think BJ Upton from the Rays would be more likely
The Real Deal
November 16th, 20107:21 pm
Sorry Bobby was not around for this deal. Would love to have Elvis Andrus back and Felix.
Get the cubs guy out of their and lets put that 13 million for some pitching.
November 16th, 20107:22 pm
Uggla, I have to get use to the name and the man, what a hitter. I hate Infante had to go and I liked Mike Dunn but its part of baseball.
Dan Uggla’s agent is Terry Gross, according to Cot’s Baseball Contracts… Yes!
Terry Bross, Uggla’s agent, said the player was in Mexico on a Nike tour and not available to discuss the trade.
November 16th, 20107:23 pm
I hear Braves could still go after Pat Burrell or Ludwick .
I assume Uggla will be at 2B instead of Prado because Prado would play a good amount (maybe about half) of games at 3B where he is good defensively. That way, he can just concentrate on 2 positions instead of 3.
I’ve seen balls go through and off Uggla, that’s his downside. But Fredi knows him well and obviously was ok with this deal…
November 16th, 20107:24 pm
Love the trade!! Like everybody else, I’ll miss Infante. But that was a classic “trade high” situation with him.
I just hope Prado plays a decent leftfield, or we’ll be a worse team defensively than last year (and that’s hard to imagine).
But still love this trade–the BIG power righthanded bat we needed.
And this definitely spells the end of Matt Diaz’s tenure here. Oh yeah, and can everybody please shut up now about Colby Rasmus
Nice post Derrick! I already believe it maybe others will accept him as well!
I think Chipper should play 1st some since his knees are gone and have Freeman platoon. Whose bat do you want this season Prado or Freeman. Prado > Freeman and Prado > Chipper
Great deal — solves the need for righthanded power — but Braves still need speed at the top of the lineup. With Scott Podsednik a free agent, he’d be a great addition, with Prado moving down to second in the order, followed by Heyward, Chipper, Uggla, and McCann. Wouldn’t mind adding Colby Rasmus either. Speed is the need now, Frank: go for it !!
November 16th, 20107:25 pm
What about… Rasmus !!! lol
Toyt Like A Tiger
November 16th, 20107:26 pm
FREEMAN WILL NOT FREAKING PLATOON. HE IS OUR FIRST BASEMAN GET THAT OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM.
Upton > Burrell, Ludwick or Podsednik
HALLA-FREAKIN-LUYAH! Uggla was always one of the infamous Braves killers with Florida!
This is nothing like the Tex trade. We send Texas a bundle of blue chip prospects. We just sent Florida a utility bench player coming off a career year and a young left handed reliever.
We have ridiculous pitching depth, so losing Dunn doesn’t matter, and Infante was great for us this past year, but its highly unlikely he’s going to repeat that performance, and besides, you have to give up something to get something. Good to trade him while he has such value.
Steal of a trade. Shore up the bench by resigning Hinske now. He can play left when Martin subs for Chipper and back up Freeman at first when necessary.
November 16th, 20107:27 pm
Uggla is “excited” to join the Braves.
The Freeman platoon is if he struggles. If he’s hittin .180 after 200 ABs, he’s in a platoon.
November 16th, 20107:28 pm
So you get mad at a man for trying to help you save your life?? Wow!! Grab a clue big guy!
Infante always had a natural lightning stick. He’s a solid hitter. This is still a fine trade if we can live with Uggla’s D and if Venters our pen lefty is not dead after this past year.
Umm, the Braves traded for a 2B that has averaged 32 home runs the past four years and has never hit less than 27 for a rookie reliever and a utility infielder. Don’t get me wrong, I liked Infante, but this trade should be illegal. The Braves have robbed the Marlins and left them with a bench player and a guy that has a K to walk ration of almost 1:1.
November 16th, 20107:29 pm
I like it, I love it, I want some more of it.
November 16th, 20107:32 pm
Although i like this trade, is this trade our ‘big trade?’ are we still looking for a LF/CF? or does that make prado our official LF?
btw why would we miss dunn? we still have venters and oflaherty. dunn was just an extra guy that was gonna get sent back down to Gwinnett
What a great trade by Frank Wren.outttttaaaaaaa boyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Brian in Villa Rica
November 16th, 20107:33 pm
Uggla’s presence negates the need for another infielder and Venters and O”Flaherty will handle the role of lefty out of the pen (Kimbrel) will close. Got this guy without giving up starting pitching nor the top talent in the minors. An OF who hits 30 HR every year would have cost much more. Chipper will almost certainly hang it up next year and there is the money to extend Uggla. Fantastic move!
November 16th, 20107:34 pm
ahahaha wow! Marlins got taken for a ride with this genius move. Infante and Dunn for Uggla seems like another Braves trade rape. Good job Wren. I’ve been hoping Uggla would play for us for the past 2-3 years. Now he can’t kill our pitching. I wonder if the Marlins will trade Josh Johnson too?
An excellent trade. We needed a right-handed batter with power and a proven rbi track record, and we now have one. If we could get a speedy center fielder who can get on base, our line up would be vastly improved. I’d like to see us take a chance on Upton, who has speed, defensive skills and some pop. GO BRAVES!
Can hardly wait to read DOB’s interview article with Dan Uggla.
November 16th, 20107:35 pm
Holy smokes, what a solid move. A legitimate cleanup hitter and all it cost was a utility guy (who played beyond his capabilities last year) and a project lefty reliever. Who cares if it’s only a one-year rental, there is no Wainwright, Andrus or Feliz involved in this deal, so I don’t understand anyone trying to use the Drew or Texeira comparisons.
agreed 110% Mutts
November 16th, 20107:36 pm
Why did they get rid of Omar??? Putting Uggla at second? May as well put HIM in left; his fielding is awful. I would rather have Brooks Conrad playing defense at second. VERY sad to lose Omar… no longer able to give players a day off here and there while having an All-Star backup to step in. Also, Uggla turned down 4 year/$48 million from the Marlins, so there is no way the Braves will afford him beyond this year. There’s another Teixeira one and done. We also lose Dunn who was going to be one of our top relievers for next year. This deal doesn’t seem to make too much sense. I hope Wren at least gets a solid center fielder to be leading off for us next year.
The Dude Abides.
Not Omar! I’m actually kind of sick over this…he had become the heart of the team for me….
Freeman hasn’t really proven himself yet and now is the weakest link on this team. Goodbye.
November 16th, 20107:37 pm
trade for upton or rasmus if possible i doubt it sign hinske and ludwick or burrell plus a vet in the pen please wren
A prediction. Uggla signs here for less money than he demanded in Florida which was reported to be 5 years $71MM.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t hate the trade or anything… just had to give up a lot. I’ll feel better if Uggla is hitting 30+ homers playing at Turner Field (and not booting the ball every 3rd play).
November 16th, 20107:39 pm
Hinske = essential; Upton > ludwick, burrell; bye bye Diaz
Joe Mama Angie Daddy
November 16th, 20107:40 pm
If we stay healthy, I don’t think we will lose any games next year!!!!!
Thank you, Omar Infante, for how you played the game as an Atlanta Brave.
November 16th, 20107:41 pm
Maybe Uggla didn’t want to play for the Marlins anymore and that’s why the contract difficulty. They let that punk Hanley Ramirez run the show over there because they think he puts butts in the seats. And they fired Fredi! Uggla doesn’t want to deal with that scum owner Loria or how the Marlins SCREWED the taxpayers of Miami on the new stadium or the Mini-Manny show anymore.
Mike, true that. I like Infante’s line drive stick and he was fairly clutch.
Obama Bush Dynasty
November 16th, 20107:42 pm
Frankly, all Infante was a singles hitter coming off a career year, though he was versatile. Dunn was wild and dangerous and we won’t miss him.
Does everyone love this trade but me? Not Omar, please. He’s one of my fave Braves! I know Uggla adds power…and I know to get him Wren must give up someone good…but Omar? I’m bummed out. Gosh, he was the spark during the pennant drive.
November 16th, 20107:43 pm
Stuart, we gave up basically nothing. A utility infiielder and our third lefty reliever for a player with 4 straight years of 30+ hrs. You are the only person in the world who thinks we gave up a lot.
OK people, can we stop B*tching about the Vasquez deal now… that deal just brought us Dan Uggla. And we still have Vizciano.
I hate to lose Infante but this is a really good move. Getting him for Infante and Duncan says alot about the mess that is the Marlins. The Marlins are a team that should not even be in the major leagues. Horrible ownership and those evening showers just make it a pleasure to go to a game there. Uggla was playing with a crowd of 4000 each night – a joke. Go BRAVES !!!
Michael from Macon
I don’t know where I read it, but I believe Dan’s agent is a guy named, Matt Sosnick.
I love Omar Infante and he plays the game the right way .. but man did we trade him at PEAK value. He might put together better seasons that this year, but probably not by any measurable amount.
Dunn could be a Billy Wagner a few years from now, but is more likely to top out as a lefty specialist along the lines of Mike Stanton or Arthur Rhodes .. which means he will be a major force in the majors for quite some time.
All that being said … I love this trade!!! Uggla is a BEAST!
I don’t care if we can’t sign him after this year. I believe that we only control Infante for 2011 and he would be a free agent and likely due a significant bump where the Braves likely wouldn’t be able to keep him. So basically, we could be trading a year of Infante and a few years of Dunn for a year of Uggla. As much as I like Infante and Dunn (check back to the previous blogs where I kept saying the Braves should trade Escobar because Infante was better and not much older), I absolutely love this trade.
I am not sure about Prado in left field, but I am actually of the belief that he willplay more games at 3B than in left field.
Not only do I love the trade, but if the Braves are out of the running early they could trade Uggla to a contender if they don’t think they can sign him. They might not get a ton for him on a short rental, but could recover for the loss of Dunn at the least.
And there is ALWAYS the chance we could sign him long term.
Wow! Love this deal as we finally go into a season with a right hand power bat that isn’t trending over the hill. Complete offence intended for Andruw who was a lazy bum that wasted his natural skills .. but no offence intended for Glaus who played his tail off for us.
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November 16th, 20107:44 pm
I really cannot believe the people on here that don’t like this deal? WE ROBBED THE MARLINS!! We got one of the best power hitting 2b guys in baseball for a utility man and a lh relief arm…… Seriously? Even if it’s only for one year…. it’s a no brainer…. Don’t overvalue Infante, he was a great guy for us last year, but odds are he won’t repeat that . He will never have more value than he has now .
Not to mention that if we can re-sign Uggla ro replace Chipper at 3b (or move Prado over there and leave Uggla at 2b) this could end up just a flat out best deal in baseball this year kinda trade!
not to mention Mclouth hit .867 after he came back…. I think that team could win a ton of games. We aren’t the Yankees, we just can’t go get Justin Upton, Carl Crawford and Adam Dunn!!! I think FW deserves kudo’s here!
Uggla: “While I’m saddened to leave the Marlins family and thankful for all they did for me in my career, I’m certainly MORE excited to join the Braves’ organization.” Uggla lives in Nashville, a drive of several hours from Atlanta.
Don't touch my Junk!
We need a utility player and Bill Hall can play six positions and hit 18 homers 46 rbi’s in 120 games 30 yrs and better than Omar.. Sign him if possible in place of Diaz and Henski.
Go after BJ Upton for speed and “D” in CF—– Damn what a team we would have.
i hate to just repeat what everyone else is saying, but wow I sure didn’t think we’d get uggla, and I didn’t think we’d get him this cheap. As others have said, Infante is a big loss (how could you not like the guy?) and Dunn might have a great career, but what we needed was some power and that’s what we got for far less than I thought the marlins would require. We got to keep Kimbrel and Venters and didn’t lose any of our big prospects. It’s a win for Florida by getting a quality second baseman who is cheaper than uggla will require and a quality cheap young reliever, and a win for the braves get the power righty who has been nothing less than consistent. I agree with others though that they have to resign him to really make it worth it.
Perhaps now someone like Billy Hall could fill the super-utility role.
November 16th, 20107:45 pm
Gee, I was kind of hoping to see Brooks Conrad back at 2B for 2011……
Great move Frank !!! Cajunstorm I like that lineup but that is too good to be true. I think we as Braves fans should demand more from Liberty. They can afford it !!! Hell I want a championship !!! The Giants ; Seriously come on man !!!! Oh yea… Frank please don’t pull a Glavine with Chipper let stay another year dude !!! That’s what scares me.
November 16th, 20107:46 pm
This has all the trappings of another one year rental with, most likely, the same result as past rentals. At least we know Dunn is no Feliz or Wainwright and Infante is no Andrus.
Great trade. Now lets go get Elsbury.
That would be a Tough lineup.
November 16th, 20107:47 pm
We will miss Omar – but a great trade for us!
November 16th, 20107:48 pm
@Derrick: Wound a little tight there, buddy… Everybody has things that inspire passion them. For some of us, it’s baseball, in and out of season. For others, it’s telling everybody else how they should live their lives. I suspect you to be in the latter category. Chill, take a couple of deep breaths. Now tell us what you think of the trade!
Wow, I didn’t expect to see so many people hating on this trade. This lineup needed some pop, and Wren got exactly that without trading any top prospects. Infante is easily replaceable and Dunn was an excess lefty arm (already have Venters & O’Flaherty). I say this is an absolute fleecing on Wren’s part.
Did you negative Nancy’s actually watch baseball before last year? Infante is not an all-star caliber player. Uggla is. Braves are vastly improved by this trade. And it doesn’t hurt the depth, all they gotta do is move Prado to 3B if Chipper can’t play and find someone to play left. Either way, vastly improved.
She thinks my tractors sexy, it really turns her on!
Dunn was horrid no doubt about it, needs some serious minors work at control.
Infante will be missed but Wren will sign a super utility player like Bill Hall or Felipe Lopez, and thats really all Infante was with us. With the Marlins Infante will get to start and he will get a chance to prove himself as a fulltime starter.
This is a good trade from Infante’s perspective!
Gonzalez on Uggla: “I’m excited. That’s a big bat. Tremendous clubhouse guy. Blue-collar. Our fans will love him.”
November 16th, 20107:49 pm
When the Braves played the Marlins, I always hated to see Uggla come up — so I think he’s a fine player, and I see no reason why he shouldn’t hit as well for us as for the Fish. I didn’t know he was considered a substandard fielder (is he, really?), for the only really bad fielding I saw him do was that business at the All Star Game in 2009. I like the combination of power and average, and I think the guy is just a player — a feisty, tough out. All the same, I really liked Omar — it could be that his career was just taking off. But at least he’ll be on a contending team, and if he comes to Atlanta with the Fish, he won’t kill us with power. So — one of these trades that’s “good for both teams” maybe? Should I worry about Prado in the outfield? Maybe — but we’ll see. I don’t think I’ll be worrying about him at the plate. Interesting times ahead! With Uggla in the bag, I wouldn’t mind seeing Pat Burrell with the Braves — another “player”!
November 16th, 20107:50 pm
Good grief. The same posters who were moonie-eyed over the Drew and Teixeira deals are prematurely filling their trousers again. Let’s hope this move is a positive rather than another disaster.
Agree “dont touch my junk”
November 16th, 20107:51 pm
Yeah, the nerve of those damn Marlins… firing OUR manager! (Hey, wait a minute…)
Toyt, we live in the south. Guys like Derrick are everywhere. Engaging them in argument only encourages them. You will never achieve any anything by arguing with a doctrinaire person. By the way Uggla is a really good move. I would like to see a little bit less platooning around here. Sub more often to rest a tired player,play the hot hand when ever possible, but platooning seldom does anything but irritate both players and me.
November 16th, 20107:52 pm
Hey guys, check Ugglas splits
He kills at turner field
@ birddawgbill (7:46)
That’s a HELL of a lineup!! Is Ellsbury really a possible? If he is, I’ll pass on Pat Burrell!
What about Jesus Christ in center field?
November 16th, 20107:53 pm
If Jesus makes it here in time. we may can plug him in the clean-up spot!
November 16th, 20107:54 pm
Mike Dunn is not closer material. He’s a lefty specialist at best. Wren got the best of that deal.
Infante almost won the batting title and folks here still call him a bench player.. gulp
Uggla’s numbers at the Ted are mind bottling. yes, i said mind bottling.
So what if Uggla is a “one-and-done”. Infante will be a free agent after next year, too. If we want him back that bad, we can re-sign him then.
Just a great trade-a steal!
Great, great trade. I didn’t think they could pull it off. Selling high on Infante and the potential of Dunn. Infante was likely to come back to earth after his career year this season. Dunn was never going to be more than a situational lefty or 6th/7th inning guy (stuck behind Venters & Kimbrel in the pecking order). Uggla is exactly what this team needed and reading Fredi’s quotes make him sound like he’ll fit in great. Now, if they could dump McLouth somewhere….
I would really like to see us go For Bill Hall and Tony Gwynn Jr to be used as a late defensive replacement in cf and pinch runner. The guy has a 87.5 career UZR out there! BTW, Mclouth is not gonna be getting paid $7 mill to ride the pine. Unless he has another opening to the season like last year, he’s gonna be starting out there.
I don’t see an upside to taking on BJ Upton’s salary minus the prospects we’d have top trade versus what we “might” get out of him. Heck, If we pick up Hall and Gwynn Jr…. we don’t need anybody else…. cept maybe a high K rh pen arm maybe.
OMG this was a GREAT TRADE!!!!! Wren is one decent outfielder away from having a PERFECT offseason!! HELL YES
November 16th, 20107:55 pm
I am one fan that is glad Bobby Cox retired. He was so predictable. I liked Him But the past 5 years was too long. What I have seen so far at the point is just the same ole. We trade Great people for ones that either do not work out or stay here. Florida got the better deal as always Braves LOOSE.
Bobby Cox never Changed and we always came up short. Just Like UGA football the other guy knows what you are going to do. I knew all the moves on Bobby. Now it seems real easy to read Management also. I need a New team.
Uggla’s chopping that wood with his batting stance.
Right she thinks my tractor sexy, just about killed the Braves at Turner every year but 06 I think.
BTW… dude is STRONG
RENTAL complainers please read.
All you folk complaining about this being a rental and not liking the trade because we might only get Uggla one year need to read what Chopper and I have noted (and maybe a couple of others).
Uggla – signed thru 2011
Infante – signed thru 2011
They are BOTH rentals.
They will BOTH be getting huge salary bumps.
That being said, if the Braves are out of the running, whom do you think would bring more back in a trade dealine type of deal?
Yes, this could be a rental, but technically so is Infante as the Braves would simply not sign Infante to a big deal to be a utility infielder.
For those of us who really love Infante (myself included) … look at it this way .. he will finally be getting a chance at being a full time player. He deserves it and I hope he has a great season (except against ATL).
DOB!! I can’t believe the Marlins GM would JUMP on Omah and Dunn without playing a little auction on his sluggin’ 2B….Great for us though, gotta hand it to Wren and Co.
November 16th, 20107:56 pm
In five season’s, Martin Prado’s fielding percentage while playing second base is .982. In five seasons, Dan Uggla’s fielding percentage while playing second base is .980.
November 16th, 20107:57 pm
I hate to see Omar go, but Uggla is definitely a good addition. I’m not gonna miss Dunn at all, though. His numbers are deceiving. He was afraid to throw in the strike zone all season.
Anyway, I’m a little leery of having Uggla play 2B instead of Martin. Martin’s an excellent defensive second baseman. Better than Uggla, for sure. But since Martin has some experience in LF, it could work out.
Anyway, I think Wren made a good trade here. Time to update my MLB 10: The Show rosters.
“Looks like Heyward better learn how to Yoga Teleport.”
LOVE IT!!!!!! Who knew there is still an old school street fighter fan around.
Living in FL (though a proud southerner living along the west coast) and having a family of Marlins fans, let me be the first to inform fellow Braves fans of a bit of absolutely useless trivia: Uggla is Swedish for “apple” . . . now go about your business . . .
November 16th, 20107:58 pm
YAD, you are forgetting range
Bravesfan @ 7:28
Couldn’t agree more. If this trade was made in some fantasy leagues, every opposing manager would protest it.
YAD, those are the numbers, but Prado is a much better fielder with much better range. I’ve seen Uggla field, and it’s not pretty or even adequate really. You know the super hero, the Thing? That’s our new second baseman.
November 16th, 20107:59 pm
Didn’t anyone tell Beinfest what Oakland gave up for Matt Holliday????
For the record I think the best defensive combo would be Uggla in left and Prado at second
Wren said Uggla will play 2nd but lets see what Fredi decides
I have three minor concerns: batting average, strikeouts, defense. However, last year he was improved in every one of those areas, so it looks like we may have added him at a good time in his career. Y’all help me edit this if you see something wrong, but I’m thinking the lineup would optimistically look like this (Chipper’s return isn’t certain yet, but that’s what I’ll work with):
CF McLouth?…probably not for long
November 16th, 20108:00 pm
Uggla and the Braves get it done somehow. I think I saw this in a dream.
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