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JonnyVenter'sLeftArm
November 8th, 2010
11:10 pm
OK, some bad grammar and spelling; sorry.
P'cola Brave
November 8th, 2010
11:11 pm
Watching MLB Network something crossed my mind. Would Boston be more inclined to move Ellsbury to acquire prospects to help fund a Adrian Gonzalez deal some point this year. They’ve been really hesitant to move their top young pitching prospects and maybe trading Ellsbury for some pitching prospects may help facilitate a trade for A. Gon. This is of course if they acquire Werth or Crawford.
CajunStorm
November 8th, 2010
11:12 pm
I know, I know but just dang that would be such a contending and complimentary lineup. Lefty-Righty all theway down, Great defense and we’d still be about No 8 – No 10 in payroll. ARGH!!!!
OK … guess I gotta get back to hoping and dreami McOut isn’t as McLousy as he has been for the last what….year and a half and hope a defensive capable PLUG ….errrrrr RETREAD, will fill in or Black hole LF. Darn it, I just wish we could spend more…..Responsibly…..but more. Turner field was nice to see for quite a few games last year.
Dadgum.....
November 8th, 2010
11:14 pm
Jonny….. It’s what they do in Florida. Have success, break up, renew. Tampa is following the Marlins plan. Losing Upton who is falling out of favor and Crawford are pretty much what the Rays are expecting.
CajunStorm
November 8th, 2010
11:18 pm
Any fanfare for maybe a Cody Ross. Free agent, can play multiple posiions and was dang close to winning a World Series MVP. Better than a “slug” like Burrell.
CajunStorm
November 8th, 2010
11:20 pm
Also Cory Ross has plenty of history with Fredi Gonzalez
CajunStorm
November 8th, 2010
11:20 pm
Cody
Bama Brave
November 8th, 2010
11:23 pm
carl crawford in left and matt kemp in center. go braves!
nolie
November 8th, 2010
11:24 pm
I think this is Cody’s last arb year so not yet a free agent, SF has the option of offering him arb
Dadgum.....
November 8th, 2010
11:25 pm
Uggla was mentioned as a possible Brave. After turning down 10mil a year for multiple years it would take 11-12 to sign him. We have a very good 2nd baseman already. That is a lot of money for sticking him in LF when he hasn’t played there in recent years or a lot of money to pay a 2nd baseman when you already have one that’s better. Uggla ain’t coming to Atlanta either.
nolie
November 8th, 2010
11:25 pm
I would never pay Crawford what he will get from a big club, as a fit for the Braves
myra
November 8th, 2010
11:25 pm
DOB: Just read this article. Excellent work. And thanks for SO MANY scenarios. Great cookin for the hot stove.
CajunStorm
November 8th, 2010
11:31 pm
Uh Nolie….Crawford leading off ahead of Prado and Heyward….Good LAWD that’s called HIGH PRESSURE OFFENSE. If the game (Braves particularly) is goingthe small ball route the aforementioned trio would be devastating for the next 5 years. Besides have yu seen Crawford play defense? Have you seen him play at all? Worth $15-$16 Mill ALL DAY and twice on Red Jersey Day!
Dadgum.....
November 8th, 2010
11:32 pm
Minor will be traded.
Russell Bell
November 8th, 2010
11:32 pm
All this chatter over Werth and Crawford… these guys aren’t even tier 1 players, but they will get paid like they are. While Werth would slot in nicely to the middle of the Braves’ lineup, he ain’t Adrian Gonzalez, Howard, Fielder, or some other big bopper. But in this FA class, people think he is king of baseball… at least through the winter.
Bama Brave
November 8th, 2010
11:32 pm
nolie is drinking the cool aid lol
DAP
November 8th, 2010
11:35 pm
Nolie, I’m aware there is much more to hitting than homers, but you mentioned park effect, which I most often associate with homers. Anyways, just blog fodder, I’m not favoring andryw over Burrell or Burrell over anyone else, for that matter.
boog
November 8th, 2010
11:35 pm
I must say …you do an absolute fantastic job. You leave no stone unturned. The information is accurate, interesting and exhaustive. I for one, as a very serious Braves fan, appreciate the effort that you put into your job. Thanks again… Some other journalist on the AJC staff could take a page out of your book…you obviously put alot more time and effort into your job than most of the other AJC sports people. Not naming any names but Schultz and Bradley come to mind. There columns are mostly fluff and BS… Sorry I had to take a jab at those two Bozo’s in the context of praising your work…
Dadgum.....
November 8th, 2010
11:36 pm
If we can pay a pitcher 15 mil per to play every 5th game we sure as freakin hell can pay Crawford 15-16 mil per to play every game. Ain’t it the truth. Rock on….
nolie
November 8th, 2010
11:38 pm
nope Cajun, I’m not paying 18-20 mil a year for 6+ years for a leadoff hitter, unless he’s Rickey reincarnated, even then I doubt it would be worth it to the Braves as a team.
Dadgum.....
November 8th, 2010
11:39 pm
Wren the Chameleon. Your guess is as good as mine.
Bama Brave
November 8th, 2010
11:39 pm
Dadgum I AGREE 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
James
November 8th, 2010
11:40 pm
Braves should sign Andruw Jones and Marcus Thames.
nolie
November 8th, 2010
11:40 pm
but you mentioned park effect, which I most often associate with homers. DAP
Ok I see, but it is not just about homers DAP. go look at the charts at ESPN, runs are affected greatly by parks too and not just in homers.
CajunStorm
November 8th, 2010
11:40 pm
Well said Dadgum….you must be from my neck of the woods.
nolie
November 8th, 2010
11:41 pm
what kool aid is that Bama? my opinions here very seldom are the popular ones
Russell Bell
November 8th, 2010
11:43 pm
we sure as freakin hell can pay Crawford 15-16 mil per to play every game
Doesn’t mean it the right move. And its not the $15-16 million/year price tag attached to Crawford or Werth that bothers me (and I wouldn’t be surprised if they got more than that per year), its the number of years these guys will sign for. 3-4 year contracts, at ~$18 mill/year – maybe worth it, but still overpaying imo.
However, some team will give them both those guys more years than that. Probably anywhere from 5-7 year deals. And both contracts will probably be viewed as mistakes in the latter 2-3 years of their deals. Why take on that sort of risk?
CajunStorm
November 8th, 2010
11:44 pm
Nolie….Crawford dang near is Ricky “I am the Greatest” Henderson with a lil mre pop and a lil better D. Carl may not catch his numbers but he’ll be top 5 behind him. That = Hall of Fame
Choppinmama
November 8th, 2010
11:45 pm
I know Pat Burrell won’t really add much to the team, but he would be SO easy on the eyes! Hubba hubba!! After all, we haven’t had a bona fide hunk on the team since Javy Lopez.
Let’s try and keep our attention on the important criteria for new hires shall we?
nolie
November 8th, 2010
11:45 pm
he ain’t gonna sign for 15 or 16 million, he’s gonna be close to twenty for a lot of years. no way a
leadoff hitter is worth that money. especially since his career OBP is not all that hot. He is perhaps one of the most over-rated players in baseball right now. and that does not mean I think he isn’t a very good player, but he has never done anything to make him worth a 100-110 million dollar contract.
Russell Bell
November 8th, 2010
11:48 pm
So, Crawford is going to the HOF now?
Choppinmama
November 8th, 2010
11:49 pm
DOB: Arcade Fire is the musical guest on SNL this Saturday night, 11/3
nolie
November 8th, 2010
11:50 pm
Crawford dang near is Ricky “I am the Greatest” Henderson with a lil mre pop and a lil better D
no way. he get on base-perhaps the most important attribute of a leadoff hitter- at a career 337 figure. Rickey was over 400, for his entire career including his old age years, he got over 3000 hits and 2300 RS. no way is Crawford anywhere near that level.of player.
Dadgum.....
November 8th, 2010
11:52 pm
Nolie….seriously my friend, Crawford would be exactly what the Braves haven’t had for damn near a decade in LF. True lead off guy, speed, defense, some pop. You gotta pay the man or you gotta pay somebody. We seem to give out money for stop gap guys but not for true absolute can’t miss need fillers. I for one am damn tired of the constant platooning the Braves do. Get somebody that will play everyday and make McLouth the 4th outfielder IF needed. McLouth is a prime example of what I am talking about. Hoping he comes around to justify his 6 mil. Hey it ain’t my money so I guess it is easy to spend it for Wren but I would at least be a player in the Crawford saga. We’ll get outbid perhaps but I would play the game. First move though would be getting KK off the books and then letting Diaz go. If we could somehow someway trade McLouth in a deal even better.
Russell Bell
November 8th, 2010
11:56 pm
First move though would be getting KK off the books and then letting Diaz go. If we could somehow someway trade McLouth in a deal even better.
How?
Wren will be lucky to get a team to eat half of KK’s contract. Diaz can be removed easy enough, but who the hell is going to take on Nate unless Wren eats most/all of that contact? What sort of ‘baseball player’ is he likely to get in return? Major savings are not coming from the removal of these 3 players.
Have fun dreaming about malarky guys. See ya’ll tomorrow.
Kyle
November 8th, 2010
11:59 pm
How about this lineup?
Ellsbury – LF
Prado – 2b
Chipper – 3b
Mac – C
BJ Upton – CF
Heyward – RF
AGonz -SS
Freeman -1b
that would have a nice right left mix and would add some much needed speed to our lineup. upton and all his strikeouts tho would be tough to handle
nolie
November 8th, 2010
11:59 pm
not what they need most and not worth anywhere near what it will cost Dadgum. That’s my story and I’ma stickin’ to it
Dadgum.....
November 8th, 2010
11:59 pm
There certainly comes a point in years and total dollars when a player makes no sense at all. Crawford at 15-16 mil over 5 years would be my limit. I would be all in at that point if it was monopoly money.
Kyle
November 9th, 2010
12:02 am
DOB – Great blog as always. Question for you or anyone else who wants to answer – What type of player does Freddie Freeman best compare to? What kind of hitter can he be? Todd Helton? Sean Casey?
Kyle
November 9th, 2010
12:03 am
or project to be?
CajunStorm
November 9th, 2010
12:03 am
Nolie of course we can’t tell the future and No I am not calling Carl Crawford as good as Ricky Dang Henderson. Ricky played for 20+ years and is probably a top 10 player of all time. If he wasn’t such an azz he probably would be considered a top 5 player. What I am saying is Crawford TODAY is a mini Ricky (NOT CAREER) with a lil more pop and a lil more defense. Actually crawford would be best in the TWO hole but woud be great at leadoff with Prado behin him.
Also at no. 53 on the career SB list by te time CC is 35 he will be Top 5 All Time and how long he wants to play after that….who knows. Notice I never said his career would match RICKY but his ability would put him the Top 5 AFTER Ricky. And in Today’s game I’m paying $15-$17 Mill over SIX with the Quickness.
I know baseball too and if you haven’t noticed…..the days of the mltiple 35+HR, 120RBI playas are DONE!!
Dadgum.....
November 9th, 2010
12:10 am
Kyle…..Freeman —- think LaRoche. That theoretically is who he is replacing anyway. He will probably be close to that in average, homers, defense(hopefully….if he doesn’t have blackouts), and LH batting style.
CajunStorm
November 9th, 2010
12:12 am
Wow, this just popped in my country head…Crawford, BJ Upton, and Heyward might cost a pretty penny all together but would certainly increase the attendance gates by probably 20%!!! Let’s just say the Braves would connect with its “Urban” Fan base. That’ll make up the cost.
nolie
November 9th, 2010
12:14 am
Crawford at 15-16 mil over 5 years would be my limit Dadgum
I see that and it’s still a bit more than I think he’s worth to the Braves, but I can understand what you’re saying there.
I look at it this way though, the guy has a lower OBP and a lower OPS than McNate did when we got him . ok well not really, but it is true
nolie
November 9th, 2010
12:16 am
.the days of the mltiple 35+HR, 120RBI playas are DONE!! Cajun
oh I agree entirely, I say it a lot. doesn’t make a leadoff hitter worth 100mil or more
Dadgum.....
November 9th, 2010
12:17 am
Ok it’s after midnight, see ya.
Rock on…..Minor will be traded. Well maybe, perhaps he might, possibly pretty sure he will, kinda think there is a chance. Hell yes I’ll stick with Minor but it could be JJ but I’ll stick with Minor. Yep I think that’s it. Later losers……
P'cola Brave
November 9th, 2010
12:20 am
Nolie
I would pay Crawford a little bit more than Figgins. 3-4 year deal around 12-14 mil.
nolie
November 9th, 2010
12:21 am
don’t think JJ will bring back enough right now to be worth trading compared to what he might do for us if he bounces back. I won’t be surprised though if he does not pitch quite as well in the future as he did the first two years.
; still a good chance he will be a worthwhile pitcher again
kirkinga
November 9th, 2010
12:21 am
Only casual baseball watchers would talk down a Carl Crawford. So the guy has a lower OBP than Rickey Henderson. So what?
I think serious baseball fans know that a 4-time All Star (including All Star MVP in 2009), who is a good citizen (and I thought the Braves were all about nice guys in the clubhouse?), who can hit for a high average with RISP, including a .338 at old Yankee Stadium, who can steal bases, is exactly the kind of player the Braves need and is well worth the big bucks he’s going to command since he does all of these things and is still in his prime.
So maybe he’s too pricey for the Braves self-imposed payroll limitations, but let’s not act as if this guy has some how fooled all of baseball into believing he’s a top shelf player without anything to backup the notion.
Dadgum.....
November 9th, 2010
12:23 am
I have a sign in my office that reads thusly:
When you are up to your ass in alligators it is difficult to remind yourself that the initial objective was to drain the swamp!
Might send a copy to Wren.
Rock on….and good night. I mean it this time.
nolie
November 9th, 2010
12:26 am
yeah P’c, , 14-16 mil for 4 or 5 years tops is top dollar IMO. I’m not saying he is not a very good player, just that he is in a position now with another relatively weak FA class to really reap the rupees.
and with all that speed and BA he still only scored 110 runs…heck Prado scored a 100 and was hurt a lot
CajunStorm
November 9th, 2010
12:27 am
Come on nolie….if I can’t compare Crawford to Ricky Henderson….its only fair that YOU can’t compare Crawford to McLousy. GEEZ.
Here’s a better comarison..Carl Crawford has a career on base % of .337, a career BA of .296, career slg % of .444, and on pace to steal about 900 career bases (409 now) and come close to 3000 hits. That would put him in the category of hmmmmm….LOU ” FREAKIN” BROCK!!!! Just pray we sign the kid!! Slim chance…..that’s why I say PRAY PEOPLE!!!
P'cola Brave
November 9th, 2010
12:27 am
Werth and Crawford will get big pay days because they are the best available this offseason. They aren’t in the elite category but are looking to get paid as if they were. The benefit of a weak FA class. Crawford and Werth are both good players but neither should make any more than 15 mil at a max.
nolie
November 9th, 2010
12:28 am
Only casual baseball watchers would talk down a Carl Crawford. So the guy has a lower OBP than Rickey Henderson. So what? Kirk
I am sure as hell not a casual baseball watcher. so shove it. and if you don not think that 90 points of OBP is important than you are the casual watcher.
David O'Brien
November 9th, 2010
12:29 am
Jarryd: Yes, that scene in The Office was hilarious, when he had to pull out the Arcade Fire shirt for the baby at her christening. Quite a christening gown.
nolie
November 9th, 2010
12:29 am
and I sure as hell did not say he wasn’t a very good player. read b4 you post dude
P'cola Brave
November 9th, 2010
12:30 am
I’m sorry Crawford isn’t worth the money he will get paid. He is a good player and would definitely benefit the Braves but not at his asking price. He would be the Derek Lowe of position players for us. We would all be crying about his contract in a few years. His average and slugging and all that is nice but he averages 14 HR a year and a little over 70 RBI’s. His HR totals would fall below 15 playing half his games at Turner. Hes not worth the money for us. Just saying.
CajunStorm
November 9th, 2010
12:33 am
And Nolie…that’s why you PAIR Crawford with Prado. Can’t you see that is what we’re all saying. If we were 8 pieces away from beinng competitive then of course…stay away from the Crawford sweepstakes but the POINT is…the BRAVES area Crawford away from being really, really good. He compliments all that we are!!!
P'cola Brave
November 9th, 2010
12:37 am
Jayson Werth compliments the Braves more than Crawford would IMO. RH power bat for the middle of the order. I wouldn’t give either extended contracts however.
CajunStorm
November 9th, 2010
12:37 am
But Hey….Ill take Werth as a consolation prize.
nolie
November 9th, 2010
12:38 am
I see what you are saying, I just do not agree that he is worth what it would cost.That is the gist of my argument not that he is not a good player, though I do not agree that he is the best thing the Braves need either. Team speed is a great thing, one stolen base threat and the rest still slow is not a 100mil team upgrade IMO.
and the previous comparison to McNate was facetious not serious
nolie
November 9th, 2010
12:40 am
at his age I’m not giving Werth a 7-8 year 100 mil+ deal either.
if you relish speed trade for Ellsbury who would cost a very small percentage of what Crawford will cost.
nolie
November 9th, 2010
12:41 am
the cool thing is we can discuss this all over again next week if we wanna
P'cola Brave
November 9th, 2010
12:44 am
I like the Ellsbury trade and believe it could take life if Boston lands either Werth or Crawford.
nolie
November 9th, 2010
12:51 am
maybe so P’, we could add Ells and maybe still afford a hitter since he is still pretty cheap. He ain’t Crawford, but he would upgrade the team some in the same areas that Crawford would.
David O'Brien
November 9th, 2010
12:52 am
Saw the movie Inside Job tonight, and it’s one of the best documentaries I’ve ever seen. Tremendous movie, and the most comprehensive and clear explanation yet for what caused the worldwide economic crisis. I bet most who see it will leave the theatre feeling furious — and pretty much helpless.
It’s not a political movie, not partisan politics at all. (If It was, I absolutely would not mention the movie here.) It’s about how Wall Street owns Washington, and it’s damning for Republican and Democratic administrations alike. Mostly, though, it’s an indictment of those at the big investment banks, AIG, credit ratings agencies, et al, who were at the center of the debacle.
P'cola Brave
November 9th, 2010
12:53 am
Nolie
for a hell of a lot less money and committment.
ėJr
November 9th, 2010
12:59 am
Leave the pitching alone… And anyone of those names would look great next to infante2b, prado3b, mccannc, heywardrf, gonzss and as for chipper and lee, what’s wrong with having them platoon at 1st?? Let freeman mature a bit more… Thanks for the post
Couch Tater
November 9th, 2010
12:59 am
ESPN -
Jon Sciambi.
kirkinga
November 9th, 2010
1:01 am
I think there are a lot of fans that have become accustomed to players giving the Braves some kind of discount to come, or continue to play here. Some apparently have come to expect it.
But whatever salary a player commands is ultimately a function of many variables and not just 1-2 stats. In the case of a Carl Crawford (who up until this offseason had been a frequent name on the annual blog wish list) he is without doubt among the top players at his position right now and he is one of the top players on the FA market this offseason.
I get that some people just have a thing about athletes and entertainers who are paid a ton of money. Heck, I can remember there where people who argued Michael Jordan wasn’t worth what he was getting paid. But you tend to hear this most from people that do not understand how the market works and that tends to be your casual observer, not the hardcore fan who is in touch with the realities, good a bad, of the contemporary game.
Carl Crawford is positioned to cash in every bit as much as any recent FA we’ve seen and to act as if he is a fraud is an insult to everyone’s baseball intelligence.
Coach (2011 and Fredi G. a GO!)
November 9th, 2010
1:04 am
It’s not a political movie, not partisan politics at all. It’s about how Wall Street owns Washington, and it’s damning for Republican and Democrat administrations alike…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Exactly my friend. Most American’s haven’t figured this out yet. The entire two party system is an abject failure because both parties are entirely corrupt. But I do think the tea party is the beginning of a total revolt against partisan two party politics.
scottbravesfan
November 9th, 2010
1:08 am
It’s an absolute joke that the Braves payroll is so low. The Braves owner is one of the riches men in America and he has the Braves because of some stupid tax break crap. Unbelievable.
Coach (2011 and Fredi G. a GO!)
November 9th, 2010
1:08 am
Jacoby Ellsbury should be valued first for his defense. But the fact that he’s a lead off hitter with base stealing ability just sweetens the pot.
Thad'sdad
November 9th, 2010
1:13 am
I remember my asute son bringing this up during the season, and then heard Tom Glavine the same thoughts during a TV broadcast – the offense the Braves currently roll out there is void of any great power bats or fast legs, which means it’s difficult to manufacture runs and it’s difficult to get three runs with one swing. So the Bravos have to bunch hits in order to score, which is not an easy thing to do on a consistent basis. I’d be happy either way, but any off-season, non-pitching acquisition should have a lot of speed, a lot of power, or both.
I know, easier said than done. Is Willie Mays, in his prime, available?
Looking Forward to Freddies (both of them)
November 9th, 2010
1:16 am
I agree with other posters on here. I think Andruw Jones would be a wonderful pick up for the following reasons:
1. Defense – he is a 10 time Gold Glover
2. Offense – he is a power hitter. Ok, not a great average, but we need a power hitter and that is what he is. He has consistently shown that – even in his bad years and the last couple of years.
3. Price tag: he can be had at a bargain basement price due to many people still thinking of his performance two years ago. Looking at last season I believe he has put that behind him. Maybe he realizes that he has a chance go be a HOFer if he tries…and with him I do believe it is about motivation.
Further, one of the reasons for his “slump” (though his power numbers never did) was Terry Pendleton. Now that TP is no longer batting coach that is not a problem…
At worst he is a very cheap stop gap with great defense and I for one would love to see the Jones boys pass each other on the way to the plate in Atlanta again.
Coach (2011 and Fredi G. a GO!)
November 9th, 2010
1:26 am
I’ll pass on A.J. and so will Frank Wren.
nolie
November 9th, 2010
1:40 am
Carl Crawford is positioned to cash in every bit as much as any recent FA we’ve seen and to act as if he is a fraud is an insult to everyone’s baseball intelligence. K
this is exactly what has been said over multiple posts, many of the exact same words. where are you getting the idea that he is being called a fraud? Please quote some of those lines. He is being called not worth 100mil to the Braves, nothing else. Nobody in any discussion has called him anything less than a very good player. i think your reading comprehension skills are a bit rusty or you just wanna throw out a strawman and rip others about imagined insults.
Andrew
November 9th, 2010
1:46 am
Thanks for the blog DOB. I think going after Kemp makes the most sense. I’d be willing to part with Delgado, Minor, and another prospect for him… I just hope we don’t sign another Garrett Anderson or Raul Mondes, Ken Caminiti. I’m tired of old washed up players the Braves sign to be a “potential power threat”
Andrew
November 9th, 2010
1:51 am
Kemp solves all problems: right handed power bat and good defense in CF. Plus I’m sure he’d get along great with J-hey. Then you’d have 2 young studs in the OF and he’d probably want to stay here for a long time. I know it probably won’t happen and it’s not that easy, but if we could somehow get our hands on Kemp without having to give up Venters, Kimbrel, or Teheran, I am all for it!
Heather B.
November 9th, 2010
1:54 am
For the love of god, did anyone proof read this?
Heather B.
November 9th, 2010
1:55 am
Enter your comments here
Loogy
November 9th, 2010
1:57 am
DOB, what are your thoughts on Adam Dunn being a potential option for the braves?
nolie
November 9th, 2010
1:59 am
Kemp has been rated very low in defense in CF lately. 28th & 35th the last two years by Fielders Bible. Don’t know if that is because of his troubles out there or not, might bounce back a good bit if he got into a new situation.
ward
November 9th, 2010
2:25 am
mclouth won’t hit, that is wishful thinking, and i’m fed up with diaz.for the past two seasons. if you can’t trade them waive them, and get somebody else, and wren say’s one thing, and never backs it up.until then, i’ll believe it whein i see it! Go!!! Braves!!!!
Go for Broke
November 9th, 2010
2:31 am
Trade Derek Lowe to the Yankees in return for Brett Gardner, Joba Chamberlain and prospects. Sign Adrian Beltre thereby exchanging one Scott Boras client for another, also putting 15 million to better use. Move Chipper to left field.
Big right handed bat/clean up hitter, check!
left fielder, check!
Lead off hitter/center fielder, check!
veteran bullpen/starter, check!
upgraded defense, check!
upgraded offense, check!
Frank Wren? not that smart.
ward
November 9th, 2010
2:49 am
once again wren is some where over the rainbow. do you really think he’s going to get us a hitter? he want’s to keep mclouth….. that should tell you something. Go!!! Braves!!!!
kirkinga
November 9th, 2010
2:51 am
He is perhaps one of the most over-rated players in baseball right now. and that does not mean I think he isn’t a very good player, but he has never done anything to make him worth a 100-110 million dollar contract
Nothing wrong with comprehension skills.
Again, a simple reading of what the guy has done should give anyone pause by the descrption of him as “overrated”.
I’ve listed a few reasons why I think he is not overrated and why such a description makes someone seem underinformed about this player. He has played in Tampa Bay after all, not exactly a media hot spot. This is a reason why I suggested that describing Carl Crawford as “overrated” sounds like it’s coming from someone that is a casual fan and not really up to date on t the best LF’s in MLB and/or the current FA Market.
Sorry you’ve taken my disagreement personally nolie, you’ve never done that before. With the way people rip into each other sometimes, I’m very surprised you’ve taken thing the way you have.
That said, I still believe Crawford is a terrific player, a seemingly good guy, and the problem , such that it is one, is that the Braves don’t want to pay up for a guy in his prime even though he’s a great fit for the team and will be much sought after(thus driving up his price)
Lollygagger
November 9th, 2010
2:53 am
Crawford ain’t coming to Braves… and if he did, he would not bat leadoff. He’s on record as not liking the leadoff spot. And Tampa obliged. I don’t think he’s hit leadoff on a regular basis in two seasons. He prefers to hit in the middle of the lineup- and that’s reportedly why he’d like to sign with Red Sox, because they would bat him there rather than leadoff.
David O'Brien
November 9th, 2010
3:00 am
For the love of god, did anyone proof read this? — Heather B.
Yes, proofread is one word. And in this context, God should be capitalized. Other than that, your sentence was fine.
ward
November 9th, 2010
3:04 am
sorry guy’s,but crawford is for real,just watch baseball tonight, and you can see how truely great he is. we have the money, but seem to waste it on has beens instead! we have the money,wren is just tight. Go!!! Braves!!!!
Lollygagger
November 9th, 2010
3:09 am
DOB steps up to the plate, and whack…. hits one outta the park! That 3:00 a.m. post darn near made me spit out my drink all over my laptop I laughed so hard.
nolie
November 9th, 2010
3:10 am
and i’m fed up with diaz.for the past two seasons. Ward
two seasons? In 09 Matt had a very good year 313/390/488. His 878 OPS was his best power year ever and ranked near the top of the team. You can’t have hated that year.
nolie
November 9th, 2010
3:11 am
rade Derek Lowe to the Yankees in return for Brett Gardner, Joba Chamberlain and prospects GoFor Broke
oh my
nolie
November 9th, 2010
3:15 am
Nothing wrong with comprehension skills. Kirk
there sure as hell must be since you totally missed the part about not thinking he was a other than very good player, which is exactly what he is. What he isn’t, and I said it many times is worth 100 million dollars to the Braves.
You really need a remedial reading course if you can’t understand that sentence. Very good players are usually the ones that get over rated, not crappy ones.
stick it in you ear. and go back to grammar school
Lollygagger
November 9th, 2010
3:17 am
nolie on the war path… you doing the tomahawk chop with one hand over there buddy?
ward
November 9th, 2010
3:17 am
diaz is over rated, and is good from one side of the plate. waive him, and get somebody who can hit from righty’s, and lefty’s. i’m tired of these hitters who can’t hit. Go!!!! Braves!!!!
nolie
November 9th, 2010
3:21 am
Jeter was considered over rated by many, does not mean he wasn’t an excellent player. such literal-mindedness is a shame. You pick one sentence and ignore all the other times in many posts that I said he was a very good player. Little O/C once you get an idea in that little noggin?
DS1
November 9th, 2010
3:22 am
nolie
I have often thought that if we could get a decent hitting CF’er, then a Diaz/?? platoon in left wouldn’t be altogether bad. I love Matty’s numbers against lefties, and especially in seasons where he doesn’t get hurt, he hits very well.
Who could be added to complement him against righties? Damon, Hinske, Podsednik, Hawpe, Edmonds, Hermida??? I haven’t researched too many of these guys, but maybe there is 1 or 2 in that mix that still has some pop against righties??
Just curious.
And dang, what’s the hate on Mather on here? He was a waiver pickup. Might turn into something, might not. Not much invested. Some folks think that’s as far as FW will go with RH hitters, I guess.
Lollygagger
November 9th, 2010
3:23 am
Man, the natives have turned on Diaz in a hurry. Dude deserves better.
ward
November 9th, 2010
3:27 am
you can’t pick a hitter for one good year, and did he play the full season that year? i rest my case. jetter played good defense, and hit solid every year, and has how many world series rings compared to diaz. i rest my case. Go!!! Braves!!!!!