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Eric from MO
November 13th, 2010
5:54 am
Nolie my guess is Teheran makes it sometime in August or September call-up. I would say he is in AA till minor league all-star games which are in June. Then after that he is promoted to AAA. If everything goes right he would be a September call-up but with injuries always a possibility he could always be brought up earlier like August. But I agree DS1, he will probably be used like David Price a couple years ago and just used in the pen. He is only 20 and they wont want to get his innings too high.
nolie
November 13th, 2010
7:17 am
he might not get called up at all and get sent to Arizona if they don’t need him
Jeff R
November 13th, 2010
7:49 am
With the glut of talented pitching on the Braves’ roster, I don’t see the need to move Tehran so quickly (bringing him up somewhere later in the season). Beachy and Minor are talented kids; either or both are major league ready. No hole in the rotation for Tehran. And the bullpen? Looks pretty strong to me.
Why rush the guy along? Let him rack up more innings in the minors and mature.
Efrim
November 13th, 2010
7:55 am
MLBTR reports that Chris Coghlan will move to 3rd base for the Marlins. I don’t know his history that well. Has he played there much? What does this move gain for them
Marlins, for once, have nothing of significance in their farm system. It’s down big time this year. But that’s mostly because all of their talent has finally reached the majors. It’s a pretty good set of position players, although a lot depends on Maybin in center:
C Baker 1B Sanchez 2B Uggla SS Ramirez 3B Coghlan LF Morrison CF Maybin RF Stanton
SP Johnson SP Nolasco SP Sanchez SP Volstad SP Sanabia
It’s really their bullpen that needs an injection of life, although I like Hensley and Nunez. That team can be very good next year.
Efrim
November 13th, 2010
8:00 am
Why rush the guy along? Let him rack up more innings in the minors and mature.
I agree. I never understood the rush for Hanson and Heyward, and still don’t get it for Teheran. Teheran’s even worse, as he has all of 40 innings above A-ball.
CB
November 13th, 2010
8:14 am
Efrim,some differences between Teheran and Hanson – Hanson was almost 23 and Teheran will just turn 20 this year. Hanson had the body of a man but Teheran still has some growing pains. Also Braves needed Hanson more than they need Teheran this season. Agreed, Julio needs to be given a full season of AAA.
richbrave
November 13th, 2010
8:22 am
EFRIM:
I’ve always wondered if the possibility of injury in the minors and wear-and-tear on the arm enter into the rush.
Grim Sleeper
November 13th, 2010
9:01 am
“The Braves are planning to have Jones, who’ll be 39 in April, back in their lineup. He’s owed $28 million in the final two seasons of his three-year contract, including salaries of $13 million in 2011 and 2012 and prorated portions of his $3 million signing bonus.”
Is it just me or does the above statement scare hell out of anyone else? A 39 year old eating up so much payroll? Yes we all knew he was coming back and we all knew Wren signed him to this contract but the reality of the chickens finally coming home to roost with an injury prone guy who is a year away from 40 being counted on to play every day is scary.
The only 40 year old position player I’ve seen play at a high level had a huge head and used performance enhancing help. Chipper ain’t gonna have that luxury.
This season could get ugly as some fans will expect Chipper to perform like a 30 year old instead of a 40 year old. Common sense should tell us that the 40 year old Chipper is the guy who will likely show up.
Tomas
November 13th, 2010
9:20 am
Marlins have a pretty good team in their hands. Coghlan is a 2B by trade, he moved to LF because of Uggla now he moves from LF to 3B.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
9:28 am
Yeah, a 40 year old with an OBP of damned near .400.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
9:34 am
Tomas – The Marlins better hope that they get the ROY Coghlan and not the sophomore version, thereof. Dude only played in 91 games last year and his stats suffered a 60 point drop in both batting average and OBP and an 80 point drop in SLG%.
He might have a hard enough time just coming back to any semblance of normalcy after his injury without having to change position, too.
Danga
November 13th, 2010
9:40 am
Marlins will miss Uggla if they lose him.
Pameee
November 13th, 2010
9:49 am
Sure is great to see Chipper on front page and find out his rehab is going well. Now, that’s the way to start a beautiful Saturday morning.
Texas Frenchy
November 13th, 2010
9:51 am
FW, fyi I’m a free agent again, got my WS check & told Texas peace out, Im great defensively with a cannon arm, career .270 hitter & have some power, give me a call & I’ll play LF for relatively cheap, say maybe 2 mill. 1 year contract?????? What ya think?????
Travis
November 13th, 2010
9:51 am
This Uggla thing kinda sounds like the Glavine/Scherholtz “you aren’t showing me the respect” scenario. When money gets in the way, friendships and the “look at what I have done for this franchise” stuff gets lost in the shuffle. Look at Chippers contract. Look at what Jeter might be going thru. Life time players for one franchise are warm and fuzzy feeling but don’t always make sense. This is a business not age discrimination.
Tomas
November 13th, 2010
9:58 am
Coghlan started off the season pretty bad, but he bounced back……He is a tough out, good OBP guy.
The unresolved issue is that he has never played at 3B so defense might be a problem
Speedy Gonzalez ( Fredis cousin)
November 13th, 2010
9:58 am
Sad truth is if we signed Uggla to play 2nd, moved Prado to 3rd, put Infante in LF everyday we would be alot stronger team with Ugglas added then with poor old Larry @ 3rd, Uggla would be cleanup hitter & RH bopper we need, he played for me in Fla. & hes a gamer,but were stuck with Larry for 2 more years, Damn the luck!!!
Danga
November 13th, 2010
9:59 am
Frenchy…I think you’re dreaming if you think I’m going to pay you 2 million to stink up my lineup. You’ve consistently been the worst hitting RFer the last few seasons and yet you still seem to think you need to play everyday. Bum.
Tomas
November 13th, 2010
10:00 am
Braves outright Kawakami to Double-A
Lew
November 13th, 2010
10:02 am
Yeah, stuck with a player that gets on base almost 40% of the time. Hw terrible for us.
Efrim
November 13th, 2010
10:05 am
Braves outright Kenshin to Double-A….
Tomas
November 13th, 2010
10:06 am
Hey if Braves are really considering guys like Pat Burrel they should consider Jermaine Dye.
Pameee
November 13th, 2010
10:11 am
Chipper is the Atlanta Braves and has performed well for this team. You probably should just not bring his name up if you don’t think he is a viable candidate. BECAUSE, he will be a Brave next year, so there.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
10:11 am
Tomas-Yeah, let’s go out and get a player that didn’t even play last year because no one thought he had anything left except for him.
Danga
November 13th, 2010
10:12 am
I really wouldn’t have it any other way as far as Chipper is concerned. Do I wish he was still having seasons like the 1999 season? Sure. But dude needs to end his career here. I’m willing to overpay for his declining seasons just for the sake of the story.
keylargo
November 13th, 2010
10:12 am
Chase Utley last 5 years
167 H / 35 2B / 4 3B / 27 HR / 93 RBI
Dan Uggla last 5 years
154 H / 34 2B / 2 3B / 31 HR / 93 RBI
I am going to point out that these numbers are for Uggla’s 1 thru 5 years and for Utley they are years 4 thru 9. Utley plays a little better defense but he also has a ton more talent around him on offense.
Uggla is severely underrated.
IVAN ...
November 13th, 2010
10:16 am
Lew, top of am to you…
How’s the wheel’s ?
glord1
November 13th, 2010
10:18 am
My hope is that Chippers injury will be a blessing in disguise. I hope that him being out at the end of his career will give him the incentive to get his body (while rehabbing the knee) in fantsatic shape. Not many in this town have ever had the stones to call Chipper out on his conditioning (Smoltz and Jordan) but there have been whisperings about too much hunting and not enough offseason work as he has aged.
I hope that he realizes that he is near the end and does everything possible this Winter to be ready for the season. If he is not prepared for the 162 game grind his 14 mil salary will kill this team if he misses 50 games. That said if he realizes he is 39 and puts in the time to be in peak condition he could give the Braves .300 20 hr and 90 rbi and that could put them over the top in the NL East.
BravePack
November 13th, 2010
10:23 am
Would you do a Uggla for Prado trade? Not saying Marlins would but as Braves fans would we do it?
richbrave
November 13th, 2010
10:23 am
Went to BOWMAN’s blog on the heads up by TOMAS that KK had been removed from the 40-man, waived through the league successfully, and assigned to the JACKSON AA affiliate. Somehow, I get the feeling that KENSHIN is difficult to deal with, and his attitude much like ESCOBAR’s in the BRAVES’ eyes, in that it was not to their liking.
Nothing’s been said that I have seen either by management or any player, but I get the feeling the BRAVES were as dissatisfied with KAWAKAMI and his machinations, and he was with them, and that the org. just wishes he would go away. I get the distinct impression that the last straw was KK’s scotching of the deal with the TOKOYO club because he didn’t like pitching in their park.
Being waived through the league tells me something about what other teams think of a potential #5 starter making 6.67 million in 2011. Sounds like we would almost have to pay his salary and any taker to get rid of him.
Stinker of a deal. I think we bought a pig-in-a-poke, and were forced into a three-year deal because of the situation at the time with BRAVES pitching, and a clear understanding by KAWAKAMI of his abilities going forward.
Looks like he’ll have to get used to pitching in PEARL RIVER for awhile. Maybe he’ll inspire CODY JOHNSON to start stroking HR’s and hitting for average just to get the hell away from him. Just divining here. I can’t find an iota of proof about this take of mine on the situation other that the public actions taken by both sides.
keylargo
November 13th, 2010
10:24 am
Chipper needs to hit 2nd next year and not put the pressure on him to hit 30 HR’s by hitting him 3rd. I honestly believe if you ask him to hit like he did in 08, when he won the batting title, he could do it. Just making contact and hitting the ball where it is pitched or taking walks. His OBP would be up around .400 and he would still hit 15 HR but wouldn’t be under pressure to carry the team.
I refuse to make out a lineup, but Prado leading off and Chipper 2nd would be a great start.
JasonInFL
November 13th, 2010
10:24 am
Curious about the timing of outrighting KK to the minors? Anything to read into that?
glord1
November 13th, 2010
10:26 am
keylargo – I agree that a healthy Chipper makes an excellent 2nd hitter at this point in his career.
richbrave
November 13th, 2010
10:26 am
At any rate, looks like FW has done all he can where Kk is concerned and is moving on. One positive in all this KAWAKAMI crap.
glord1
November 13th, 2010
10:28 am
JasonInFL
November 13th, 2010
10:24 am
Curious about the timing of outrighting KK to the minors? Anything to read into that?
What it means is it does not matter what they have to pay him – he still will not be in Atlanta next year.
glord1
November 13th, 2010
10:29 am
No way I would trade Prado for Uggla when you look at the difference in money. I bet the Braves would not either.
Tomas
November 13th, 2010
10:30 am
Lew Frankly I prefer Jermaine Dye to Pat Burrell that’s how little I think of Burrell.
David O'Brien
November 13th, 2010
10:33 am
Folks, no one should be surprised at all that KK was removed from 40-man roster. Wren would never have come out after the season and openly said they were exploring all options, including Japan, to move him, if they had any intentions at all of keeping him for 2011. That’s just not the way the Braves operate. It would have been an entirely awkward position, saying that and then having him back. Plus, we knew they weren’t going to send him to the bullpen.
So they’ve removed him from 40-man because they need that roster spot before the Nov. 19 deadline to add players who need to be protected from the Rule 5 draft. No way was any team going to claim him off waivers, of course — the Braves never dreamed that would happen, because they knew no U.S. team was going to pick up that salary, or probably even trade for half of it.
He’ll end up being sold to a Japanese team and Braves picking up at least half the salary, I’m pretty sure.
braveslifer
November 13th, 2010
10:35 am
“Would you do a Uggla for Prado trade? Not saying Marlins would but as Braves fans would we do it?”
No! One year of team control in Uggla vs. four years of control in Prado.
BravoMan
November 13th, 2010
10:35 am
glord1
Agreed Chipper and Heyward need to swap postions in the line-up. Chipper can still get on base at a consistent bases.
Need a RHB to sit between Heyward and McCann.
JasonInFL
November 13th, 2010
10:36 am
I was just hoping that FW had an early rabbit up his sleeve.
richbrave
November 13th, 2010
10:37 am
Can’t find any news about LUIS SUMOZA being released by the BRAVES. Remember we acquired him in the MARK KOTSEY deal. Someone her posted up that BRAVES had released him back in the previous article on RENTERIA written by DOB..
richbrave
November 13th, 2010
10:40 am
Thanx for the comment on KK’s future DAVE.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
10:43 am
Tomas-At least Burrell played last year and produced. Dye didn’t even play. If you truly believe Dye is a better option……….not sure if I’ll take anything you say seriously from here out.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
10:47 am
I have no problem with moving Chipper to the two spot in the order, but anyone who thinks he’s got nothing to offer is just wrong. So you don’t like how much he makes? Dude’s an organizational icon that’s brought many wins to the Braves and you can’t just dump players after some arbitrary aid.
No matter what you might think of his value to salary, he DID win a Batting Championship just two years ago and since then has gotten on base at close to a .400 clip. Got to have runners on base to score multiple runs with those HR’s y’all seem to adore to the exclusion of any other offense. Get someone to provide the power and Chipper scores many runs.
glord1
November 13th, 2010
10:47 am
Chipper’s rankings among NL 3rd basemen the last two years.
2009 AVE HR RBI SLUG OBP
9 5 8 9 3
2010 AVE HR RBI SLUG OBP
9 13 14 10 2
Getting on base is definitely his biggest strength. You could even hit him 1st the way Boston used to hit Boggs first. Although he does not run well he is still a smart base runner. 1st or 2nd would work well but his run producing days may be over.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
10:47 am
Excuse me – after an arbitrary age – not aid.
glord1
November 13th, 2010
10:54 am
Lew – I never had any problem with Chipper playing last year. He was the best we had to play at third. My problem is he does not resemble a 3rd hitter in any way. If he and Freddi can understand what his strengths are now and use him properly he can really contribute. Although he had a great year in 2008 in BA he still was not a prolific run producer. Can anyone guess how many times Chipper has driven in 90 runs in the last 6 years hitting 3rd? Answer – once. That goes back to 2005. Its time to appreciate what he was and use what he is now in a positive way. I hope he gets in great shape and has a monster year.
Tomas
November 13th, 2010
10:57 am
BravePack, no on the Prado for Uggla trade. Not because Prado is better, but because he makes a lot less $, and is under team control, while Uggla is on the final year of arbitration.
I would do an Omar Infante, and Mike Dunn for Dan Uggla swap. Move Prado to LF. Also acquire Rajai Davis from the A’s to platoon in CF.
Sign Uggla to what he is asking which is pretty fair, 5yrs 58 million.
LF Martin Prado
RF Jason Heyward
3B Chipper Jones
C Brian McCann
2B Dan Uggla
1B Freddy Freeman
SS Alex Gonzalez
CF Nate Mclouth/Rajai Davis
Pretty good lineup, and didn’t lose much in the process. 3-5 players in the lineup will hit around 70 homers and around 250 RBI’s. Prado or Mather can play 3B and give Chipper days off.
From the Marlins point of view they get a valuable Utility guy that can play 3B, and a left handed reliever to improve their bullpen. + a 7 million cut on their payroll.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
10:58 am
glord-Dude, I said hitting him second works well for me – in fact, I agree wholeheartedly. I was actually commenting on several other (same old) posts complaining that he hamstrung our salary structure, when actually, his presence might well have lead us further in the playoffs – maybe all the way to the series.
BravoMan
November 13th, 2010
11:00 am
I think, with the end of an era in Cox, so should Chipper’s era batting 3rd should end as well. It’s time for the J-Hey Kid to bat 3rd.
IVAN ...
November 13th, 2010
11:01 am
Lew —
See my 10:16…
Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:03 am
IVAN – Where you been? I missed the earlier post, but Thanks, I’m doing pretty well. Walking about a mile a day with little to no pain. Just need to improve the stamina and get back on that Medieval diet and exercise program.
richbrave
November 13th, 2010
11:05 am
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Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:05 am
Tomas-You seriously believe the Marlins would trade Uggla for Dunn and Infante? Yoiu do realize that Uggla is one of only 18 players in all of MLB to hit over 30 HR? He’ll cost a hell of a lot more than Infante and a one year reliever.
Supes
November 13th, 2010
11:06 am
Chipper Jones still gets on base at a ridiculously high rate (for a 39 year old)
so putting him 2nd in the lineup would be ideal (he still has pop but much less for a prototypical number 3 hitter)…you put Heyward at the 3rd spot.
I’m still surprised that someone like the Mariners (with their big asian following here) wouldn’t give KK a pass if the Braves are willing to eat half his salary or more?
Travis
November 13th, 2010
11:09 am
I guess the use of the word Ja—ese gets blocked. Can KK block a trade back overseas?
Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:10 am
Travis – Apparently not.
BTW- was it your son who sent me a nice Thank You for artwork?
Travis
November 13th, 2010
11:10 am
I’m sorry, that wouldn’t be a trade but a sale to an Asian team.
IVAN ...
November 13th, 2010
11:11 am
Lew, just stopped in to say hey. Hope all the brothers of the Brave are well. Figured you might be here.
Will check in from time to time.
To me, the Giants winning showed how close we were..
Who knows what might have been..
We lost by only one run in each loss to them.
LATER…….
keylargo
November 13th, 2010
11:11 am
Lew
Here is a great site to help you when you start back on your diet and exercise program. It is not real user friendly in that it does not have a set of directions, but if you just keep putting information into it, you will learn a tremendous amount about what to eat. You have my email address if you have any questions, but listen to me on this one – this is a site that will help you!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/
Travis
November 13th, 2010
11:14 am
Not that I know of Lew. But he loved the Heyward you sent me. Good stuff old friend. Now if you had an Arnold Palmer you would be willing to let go of that would be special for him.
LTBF
November 13th, 2010
11:15 am
Lew thank you for your 10:47 on Chipper, no one could have said it better.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:15 am
IVAN – See ya. I agree about what might well have been. I just wish most here would realize just how close we are and that just tweaking the lineup will make a world of difference.
Got to keep the pitching, though. Trading any of the staters would be foolish.
CB
November 13th, 2010
11:16 am
I am wondering if KK was to refuse to go to J*pan would this void the contract? I would assume so and he is forced to live with whatever decision is made.
Danga
November 13th, 2010
11:16 am
Rockin some Sinatra this AM. Forgot how much I enjoy the guy.
CB
November 13th, 2010
11:18 am
Danga,do you like Josh Groban? My music tastes are very varied. lol
Travis
November 13th, 2010
11:19 am
So KK’s contract goes with him and the Braves must pay the diiferance if it isn’t picked up in total. Can KK refuse the deal?
Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:19 am
Travis – Well, then I guess someone else has a young son or grandson named Travis, who they’re teaching good manners. It really was a nice Thank You note from an obviously young Braves’ fan (with parental help, of course.)
Almost everyone sends me an email or thanks me on the blog -which is fine- it’s really the charitable donations I hope people make, but every now and then I get a card that means a lot. Thiought it might have been you and yours this time around.
LTBF
November 13th, 2010
11:20 am
I read the blog every day but do not post much during offseason because I think it kind of useless to talk about possable trades and FA signings because front office does not listen to us.
Danga
November 13th, 2010
11:20 am
CB…Can’t say I’ve ever taken the time to really listen to Groban. I recognize that the guy is a wonderful singer, but for some reason he hasn’t really appealed to me.
Tomas
November 13th, 2010
11:21 am
Lew, Dye didn’t play because the guy is greedy and din’t want to take a big pay cut.
Lets take a look here the last 5 years including this one:
Pat Burrell:
2006 29 homers 890 OPS
2007 30 homers 902 OPS
2008 33 homers 875 OPS
2009 14 homers 682 OPS
2010 20 homers 817 OPS
Total : 126 HR 833 OPS
Jermaine Dye:
2006: 44 homers 1006 OPS
2007: 28 homers 804 OPS
2008: 34 homers 885 OPS
2009: 27 homers 793 OPS
Total: 133 homers 872 OPS
Who is better?
Just to be clear I don’t want either of this two, I think the Braves are kidding themselves if they think that signing either one of this two would fix the offensive issues. Personally I think they should go after Dan Uggla, or BJ Upton. Colby Rasmus, or Matt Kemp if the price is right.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:21 am
Travis – Never have done a Golf portrait though – done Hockey, football, Figure skating and even an Olympic Swimming (Nicole Haislett) and Tennis (Jennifer Capriati) drawing some years ago, but nothing but baseball as far as sports go in recent years.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:21 am
And Olympic gymnastics, too.
CB
November 13th, 2010
11:23 am
Danga,understand. Like I said, my tastes go all over the spectrum.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:23 am
Tomas-Dream on. The second half of 09 for Dye sucked so bad that no one was willing to take a chance on him. AT his age, missing an entire year is not a good thing. Let’s take a flyer here – nothing worth signing. Talk about Lowered Expectations. I’d rather sign up Ron Gant.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:24 am
And if he overvalued himself last year, what makes you think he’s changed his mind, now?
Travis
November 13th, 2010
11:24 am
Seems to me that if he refuses a trade and he belongs to the MLB Player Association he is protected from losing his contract. If he refuses to go overseas and play then he just sits and gets paid. Can’t he refuse the demotion to the minors?
glord1
November 13th, 2010
11:27 am
The problem with both Dye and Burrell in LF is they may make Braves fans long for Garrett Anderson defensively. Ok maybe that was a little exaggeration but you get the point.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:27 am
And who is better? At this point, Burrell is. He hit 20 HR last year and Dye didn’t hit any.
Screw looking back five years for a guy that old. Tell me what he did last year and forget the rest – it’s immaterial at this point of his career. Five years ago, Troy Glaus was hitting 40+ HR. Ain’t doing it anymore. Pitiful argument.
Travis
November 13th, 2010
11:27 am
I meant if he refuses the trade to Ja*an.
Tomas
November 13th, 2010
11:28 am
Lew Pat Burrell was designated for assignment, the Giants took a chance at him and he produced. Dye supposedly stayed in shape, he is 36 years old…
Like I said I don’t like either of the two but if I had to choose I’d choose Dye.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:30 am
Travis – As long as he’s getting paid by someone, it doesn’t matter where he’s playing – Player’s Assn. only cares that he gets the bucks he signed for (or more, which won’t happen). He does not have 5-10 protection and is – for all purposes, a second year MLB player with no say in the matter.
At least that’s how I see it.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:32 am
Tomas-Then you’re wrong. A year off at age 36 – even if he works out – is going to be detrimental. Burrell was bad in Ta=mpa, but so was Renteria in his AL years. Maybe he’s just a NL player.
Doesn’t matter what you say – he hit 20 HR last year and Dye hit none. Bottom line? Dye ain’t happening.
Travis
November 13th, 2010
11:33 am
One thing going for Burrell is that he has stayed pretty darn healthy physically and can still use his wheels. That might be his edge over Dye and Mags. If the Braves get a CF that can hit, I see Burrell in left over Diaz. Money might be the only decider here.
richbrave
November 13th, 2010
11:34 am
NO to BURRELL, UPTON, and REYNOLDS.
YES to ELLSBURY and RASMUS.
Travis
November 13th, 2010
11:35 am
Lew, I thnik it’s more about KK paying his union dues. We might be able to belong if we just agreed to pay dues. Ya ready?
Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:38 am
richbrave – The Braves won’t empty the Farm to sign either Ellsbury or Rasmus. In fact, I don’t see St. LOuis being all that interested in trading Rasmus at all without getting a huge return.
Ellsbury? Just not sold on him, either. I think he’ll cost too much and coming off of an entire missed year? Bothers me considerably – even if it was ribs.
Didn’t Glavine pitch and win quite a few games with broken ribs? Ellsury missed a whole year.
keylargo
November 13th, 2010
11:53 am
Lew
Did you see my 11:11 to you?
Lew
November 13th, 2010
11:55 am
keylargo – Thanks, I’ll check it out.
I lost 65 pounds befoe I broke my leg and gained aback about 40 of them not being abe to continue my routine. Just getting back to my program would help immensely, but my stamina’s not there yet.
Any help, though is always a good thing.
David O'Brien
November 13th, 2010
11:57 am
richbrave: I wrote it in comments section of blog that Braves released Sumoza. That didn’t warrant a story.
glord1
November 13th, 2010
12:03 pm
I would really like to see Ellsbury come in but it would cost some pretty good prospects. Ellsbury is excellent defensively and has a career Slugging percentage over .400. He is not a Juan Pierre type that is all speed. Dont believe it will happen though atleast not until the Red Sox find out if they can get A Gonzalez from SD. SD wants Ellsbury.
Lollygagger
November 13th, 2010
12:07 pm
I’m all for acquiring Uggla and then signing him to the 5-year contract he wants at $12 or 13 pre season. His numbers ar ealmost dead-on what Braves are looking for. But then, does tying that money up in him mean we have trouble signing Heyward to a long term deal in a few years when it comes time to lock him down or start paying ridiculous amounts through arbitration? I’m assuming the Braves were looking at it from this satndpoint: When Chipper’s money comes off the books, then we sit down with J-Hey and make him the face of the franchise and pay him like it. So, I gues the question is: Would an Uggla signing get in the way/complicate a Heyward long term deal?
Lew
November 13th, 2010
12:08 pm
glord-I did some reading on his injuries last year and they concern me.
Some injuries, like TJ surgery, have a great track record of coming back to full strength, but rib and back injuries tend to be gifts that keep on giving (look to Chipper and his recurring obliques problems).
Ellsbury missed an entire season with these injuries – a long time for ribs. He even broke more ribs in a second collision after returning (while still not healed, but that’s yet another soap opera) and two cases of broken ribs on different injuries indicates to me there might be bone weakness added to the equation.
Maybe he does come back from both bouts of broken ribs just fine, but until he comes back and shows something resembling his former self, I’d take a flyer and certainly wouldn’t want to pay the price he may well cost in prospects until he does. He won’t help us a bit if he’s not in the lineup.
Owl Hunter
November 13th, 2010
12:11 pm
Apparently the Marlins are shopping Uggla. I think that this is a big opportunity for Wren to prove that he’s really willing to upgrade the offense. He’s the right handed power bat we’ve been talking about for a couple of years now. I’m not saying that it’s a must that we get him, but I really hope we do something better than Burrell. Wren needs to be aggressive, and let the league know that the Braves are for real!
Lew
November 13th, 2010
12:11 pm
Lollygagger-I don’t think a five year deal to Uggla would hurt us long term. There’s at least $40 mil coming off the books when Hudson, Lowe and Chipper are gone in 2013 and the pitching spots will likely be filled with inexpensive young pitchers (Teheran and Delgado).
I’d like to see Uggla in Atlanta at second and Martin in left. Or vice versa.
reagan
November 13th, 2010
12:14 pm
CB (and Danga)…..never thought I would hear the male equivalent to Streisand in my life …but………..Groban is. Danga….if you like Christmas music, listen to Groban sing ” O Holy Night”…..really shows off his voice.
Lew
November 13th, 2010
12:14 pm
Did Uggla get along with Fredi?
JasonInFL
November 13th, 2010
12:14 pm
Wonder if the Braves have any interest in Uggla? They would have to get creative on where to play folks, but since Uggla isn’t exactly Ryne Sandberg at 2nd; could they still try a move to LF?
JasonInFL
November 13th, 2010
12:15 pm
A few blurbs that I have read seemed to indicate that Uggla got along well with Fredi…wasn’t Ugs one of Fredi’s biggest backers when he benched Hanley?