As hot stove heats up, expect unexpected from Wren

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Kat

November 8th, 2010
8:16 pm

Eric In Albany N.Y ….I live on the Albany/Guilderland border, but officially Guilderland. The snow snuck up on us today.

Eric In Albany N.Y.

November 8th, 2010
8:19 pm

youre telling me kat! i work for national grid and i wasnt expecting to work outside in the snow today! kinda went to work under dressed! tomorrow i bring my jacket to work just in case!

Chillahill43

November 8th, 2010
8:21 pm

So we dont need any speed.! Right, why would we need any speed? Why? We were so good at moving guys over and flagging down gappers and getting from 1st to 3rd and able to score on doubles from 1st. And oh yea those big 3 run hommers that just came in droves from August 15 on. Yea lets keep thst formula that worked so well for 2006-2009
and got us past the divisions this year. Yea screw it why get us some speed?? How about getting us another 35 yr old slow Arse 18
homerun guy thats worked really well too.. Speed kills… It ALWAYS kills us!!! Go Braves!

Bravesin11

November 8th, 2010
8:21 pm

Still think they should have kept Ankiel…

curtis jones

November 8th, 2010
8:22 pm

Congrats and thanks to ESPN for dropping Joe Morgan from Sun. night baseball. It only took them 21 years to figure out how absolutely awful he is in the booth. Now about Chris Berman….

TnBrian

November 8th, 2010
8:22 pm

DOB, you need to hurry up and see Due Date. I’ve read the critics and how they think it’s a rip off of Plains,Trains & Automobiles, but My God, it’s just supposed to be a movie to make you laugh. That’s all. And it does plenty of that. Downey Jr. is as funny, if not funnier, than chub chubs.

You said that about “well done” scary movies last night and the first one that sticks out in my mind is the original Chainsaw movie. Other than that, my list is thin of Friday the 13th sequals, Halloween sequals and garbage like that. Good garbage to me though.

VaBravesFan

November 8th, 2010
8:23 pm

If we sign Pat Burrell as our big power pick up…… I would be very upset.

Eric In Albany N.Y.

November 8th, 2010
8:26 pm

Congrats and thanks to ESPN for dropping Joe Morgan from Sun. night baseball. It only took them 21 years to figure out how absolutely awful he is in the booth. Now about Chris Berman….

where do i sign to make this happen?

TnBrian

November 8th, 2010
8:26 pm

Chillahill43, speed is also very expensive. Teams seem to want a lot for their speedy guys and those FA types are expensive. Posednik is one that could come cheap, but he’s really just a 4th OF with speed. This is why I say Ellsbury could be a golden opportunity for us to finally get that legit leadoff hitter we’ve missing for years now. If the Sox sign Werth, that could leave a team like ours to swoop in and get Ellsbury. Hes coming off an injury, so his value should be lower.

Jake W.

November 8th, 2010
8:30 pm

Still think they should have kept Ankiel…

I think he would be good as a fourth outfielder because of his defense and if he could have been kept at a minimal price i’m ok with it, but i’m not sure what his contract situation was so if they didn’t keep him because the price was to high then I agree with them.

Just Wanna Say

November 8th, 2010
8:34 pm

I haven’t seen anywhere where Wren or anyone else said that Mather was a solution. He is a back-up or started in AAA at best.

VaBravesFan

November 8th, 2010
8:35 pm

Rick Ankiel will get a 1 year deal around 1-2 mil. He struggles big time vs LHP and struggles as a hitter all together really. Great arm and defense with above average speed.

Eric In Albany N.Y.

November 8th, 2010
8:36 pm

Bababo0y521@gmail.com Kat send me an email some time ill send u some of my braves pics

flange1

November 8th, 2010
8:38 pm

Willy Wally,

Beat me to it on the Thorman line!

Eric In Albany N.Y.

November 8th, 2010
8:41 pm

i cant wait to see the braves get some players who hit doubles and home runs again… i may be old and crusty by that time… i cant wait to see them hit the ball… only question is when

Chillahill43

November 8th, 2010
8:42 pm

Yea i know but speed also comes pretty cheap sometimes as well. – blanco was obtained at a rather. Cheap rate. We got some speed in the minors that should be contending for some playing time in OF. And if we can get mclouth to see a hypnotist to get him back on track in the box and a throwing guru that will convince him that you gave a better chance getting men out on the bases when You actually throw the ball. Yea we should be just fine…. With what we got … What? Me Worry!

Braint

November 8th, 2010
8:46 pm

Plate Appearance — I agree. Look at Andruw’s numbers last year. Forget his avg. we need his power and defense in LF. He hit more HR’s than Heyward and did it in 250 less at bats. That’s right — Andruw Jones hit 19 HR in 278 ABs – Heyward hit 18 HR in 520 ABs. If we keep Diaz’ $2.55 million we could get Andruw for $1.5 and have several hundred thousand left over…

shawn

November 8th, 2010
8:47 pm

Thanks DOB..

DBraves

November 8th, 2010
8:51 pm

What about JJ for Mike Stanton. I know no chance but I think we need to be looking for that type of trade.

richbrave

November 8th, 2010
8:52 pm

VaBravesFan

November 8th, 2010
8:23 pm
If we sign Pat Burrell as our big power pick up…… I would be very upset.

If we sign Pat Burrell as our big power pick up…… I would be very upset. Echo…..echo………echo.

Jarryd

November 8th, 2010
8:55 pm

DBraves,

I feel like every GM would look for that type of trade but it ain’t gonna happen.

LongtimeBravesfan

November 8th, 2010
8:58 pm

Thanks for the great new blog, Dave! I agree wholeheartedly, Wren will surprise us with his moves. He’ll probably make a few and the whole picture won’t be clear for a while.

rob

November 8th, 2010
9:05 pm

As a Braves fan living in NY – it is incredibly frustrating to read that we “cant afford” certain free agents. If ownership and management aren’t willing to spend money on a piece of the puzzle that they believe can help them win a world title – they are not trying hard enough. Every one gets mad at the Yankees for spending money – but at least they do it b/c they want to win. I wish the same was said about the Braves – Werth or Crawford would make us instant contenders

Efrim

November 8th, 2010
9:07 pm

Great blog, DOB. Lots of guys out there, hopefully Wren can do his best to upgrade the offense AND defense.

richbrave

November 8th, 2010
9:07 pm

FALL BALL

WILKIN RAMIREZ 1-5, 1 SO, .167 BA.

D.J.

November 8th, 2010
9:08 pm

ugh, I just read the new blog and expected the game to start in the next hour or two…

94 days until pitchers and catchers report, courtesy of SI’s football guru, Peter King, in his column this morning.

Eric In Albany N.Y.

November 8th, 2010
9:10 pm

it seems like the large market teams who spend the most money on free agents and payroll in general is that they have 1 owner not a corp running the show… and they also have larger populations as their fan base… return to the days of 1 owner like ted and return to the days when the braves couldnt lose!

richbrave

November 8th, 2010
9:11 pm

Braint

November 8th, 2010
8:46 pm
Plate Appearance — I agree. Look at Andruw’s numbers last year. Forget his avg. we need his power and defense in LF. He hit more HR’s than Heyward and did it in 250 less at bats. That’s right — Andruw Jones hit 19 HR in 278 ABs – Heyward hit 18 HR in 520 ABs. If we keep Diaz’ $2.55 million we could get Andruw for $1.5 and have several hundred thousand left over…

‘DRUW’s gotta’ play half his games in ATLANTA. I’m betting he wouldn’t hit ten at the TED even if he played all 162 here.

MikeInFl

November 8th, 2010
9:13 pm

Every one gets mad at the Yankees for spending money – but at least they do it b/c they want to win.

That, and the fact that they drive about $440 mil in revenue, vs. less than $190 mil for the Braves.

richbrave

November 8th, 2010
9:14 pm

flange1

November 8th, 2010
8:38 pm
Willy Wally,

Beat me to it on the Thorman line!

Another name I saw south of CIUDAD JUAREZ, CHIHUAHUA

stachemoney22

November 8th, 2010
9:15 pm

outfielders that i attempt to deal for in no particular order 1. shin soo choo-will cost a very good prospect or three, but his power, speed and especially high obp are incredibly enticing. 2. josh willingham 3. brett gardner 4. colby rasmus 5. nelson cruz-texas definitely wont trade him cheaply, but he’d be a perfect fit. 6. david dejesus-latest injury could keep teams away for short term 7. sign magglio.

mistake 1 this offseason-frank wren picking up alex gonzalez’s option. terrible move. i dont know if i can stand watching games next season because of his ugly at-bats and .300 obp

Scott from Fairburn

November 8th, 2010
9:15 pm

Way to stoke the ‘hot stove’, DOB

richbrave

November 8th, 2010
9:17 pm

Eric In Albany N.Y.

November 8th, 2010
8:09 pm
Kat Where Ya Live?
Im in the not so beautiful city of rensselaer

Not the home of RPI?

Jake W.

November 8th, 2010
9:17 pm

The Yankees spend that way because they can, no other team can do that. Look at philly, they are about as high as they are going to get with payroll and if attendance slips from this trend of selling out every game then that payroll will as well. No team should be compared to the yanks because no team can do what they do.

Braveheart

November 8th, 2010
9:18 pm

What the hell is that goober Rathburn talking about?!?!? Tough luck?!?!?!? No, Bob, they’re called crappy shots

Efrim

November 8th, 2010
9:18 pm

Who would of thunk it? Depodesta now a Met front office guy. “Moneyball” in Queens(meaning Moneyball….with money). Here is a little snippet from Rob Neyer:

Keep your eye on the Mets. If they suddenly begin doing intelligent things, it won’t take long before they’ve passed the Braves and are challenging the Phillies. If the organization continues to muddle along for two or three years, it will probably be due to the meddling of whoever hired all these smart guys.

They don’t have as strong a farm system as the Phillies or Braves. I can’t speak to their rookie league levels, but there isn’t much in Double-A or Triple-A other than Jenri Mejia. Wilmer Flores and Matt Harvey are at the lower levels. Anyway, the front office is going to have to convince ownership to go above slot and spend money on the draft. If they do that, then yes, trouble is on it’s way. Braves can’t outspend the Phils or the Mets, so they’ll have to outdo them in player development and scouting for amateur talent in the draft and international scene.

Eric In Albany N.Y.

November 8th, 2010
9:18 pm

richbrave

RPI is in the city of troy 10 miles north of rensselaer… but it is in rensselaer county. RPI pretty good school

nolie

November 8th, 2010
9:20 pm

think Wren and the Braves saw all they wanted from him in center which was clear by the Ankiel trade. He wouldn’t throw the ball and he just looked out of place for some reason. TnB

an arm is relatively more important in LF than in center which is the OF spot that rates the arm as the fifth tool.

Bill

November 8th, 2010
9:22 pm

Thanks DOB…
Hope Liberty ups the $$$…. Millwood would be ok if not to expensive.Young pitchers could learn from the ole fox.
Like BJ Upton but Rays will probably ask for Freeman.
Would love for Braves to sign Free Agent…Grant Balfour RHRP Very good control, hard fastball, sharp breaking slider. 57gm..17bb..55k=2.28 era.

Free Agent Bill Hall LF but plays 6 positions– above average 3rd base and above average 2nd. Good SS, all OF positions.Solid RH hitter off bench and as starter. 120 games with Red Sox= 18 hrs 46RBI obp316 250 av. age 30

Damn glad Jon & Joe are gone from ESPN….

Looking forward to your report from Winter Meeting….

Tomahawkin

November 8th, 2010
9:22 pm

PMC

November 8th, 2010
9:22 pm

If you don’t go all out like Steinbrenner to win, I’ve got no use for you as an owner. You’re basically saying. Hey I own the team and I’m in it for the bucks, so buy this marketing…we’re not really trying to win. Owning a sports team is about building something great… then if you want to you can sell it when you’ve built up the empire. Most baseball owners, really seriously don’t give two flips about winning, they are minding the asset as a profit getting by on marketing gimmicks and or emotion getting people to send them money while they roll around in it and eventually they sell the team racking in more cash.

It’s a waste of money paying to see a substandard pro team. There are better things to do with ones spare change.

In baseball there is no salary cap. If the Braves don’t go out and SIGNIFICANTLY upgrade thier outfield with guys who can produce…it won’t be worth getting too invested in this team again next year.

Jake W.

November 8th, 2010
9:23 pm

What the hell is that goober Rathburn talking about?!?!? Tough luck?!?!?!? No, Bob, they’re called crappy shots

Hey, well at least its not a blowout. Moral victory for the hawks the way they finished up last year. They’re a little shorthanded so had to play some people tonight who usually wouldn’t get playing time and they can lose respectfully. Progress.

Bad shot or not, Josh likely got fouled but Vince Carter gets bumped and draws the foul. Gotta love NBA refs and their consistency.

Nelson

November 8th, 2010
9:23 pm

NO, Please NO pat Burrel, Please

Tomahawkin

November 8th, 2010
9:23 pm

I just Heard word of the Breaking BSPN News 10 minutes ago…

Tomahawkin

November 8th, 2010
9:24 pm

Co-Sign!

Hell No! To Pat Burrell…!

Wren Can’t be that Dumb! Our team defense sucks overall as it is no need to make it worse with Burrell

rob

November 8th, 2010
9:25 pm

In my previous post alluding to the Yankees I’m not saying spend the money the Yanks spend on pay roll – but to not even consider Werth or Crawford b/c of a budget is rediculous. The Braves make a big profit be sure of that – and even though the contract for Werth or Crawford would no doubt be large they would make it back in the future(tix sales, postseason revenue, merchandise)

nolie

November 8th, 2010
9:26 pm

the braves did score 40 runs above average last year, mostly due to having an OBP 16 points above average. It concerns me that two pieces we’ve added — Gonzalez and Mather — are terrible OBP batters, BH

I agree, said that during the season, and Freeman is likely to have a fairly low OBP too, but we can hope not

Braint

November 8th, 2010
9:26 pm

richbrave
November 8th, 2010
9:11pm

‘DRUW’s gotta’ play half his games in ATLANTA. I’m betting he wouldn’t hit ten at the TED even if he played all 162 here.

What logic are you basing that assumption on? The only time he hit less than 10 HR (excluding his Sept call up in ‘96) was his injury year in LA in ‘08. His worst year ever was his 17 HR in 281 AB’s with TEX in ‘09. I’d take that “worst year” over the scrubs we run out in LF in ‘11.

Eric In Albany N.Y.

November 8th, 2010
9:27 pm

The mets could build the farm system in a very unpopular way… if i were the mets i would take the 2 things of value they actually have and wait till bad contracts end after this year. i would take the 2011 season as a loss and use it to build a good farm system. by 2011 they would have a good farm and maybe some major league ready tallent to add to the team by then. they would also free up money from bad contracts omar made. they would have lots of flexability to spend spend spend. in 1 yr they could become contenders. but only if they make 2 unpopular moves. trade write and reyes!

steveP

November 8th, 2010
9:31 pm

DOB,

Anything new on trying to unload KK?

Pameeee

November 8th, 2010
9:32 pm

Thanks for the new blog.

Please, please don’t speak of bringing Francoeur back to Atlanta. Platoon with Hermida? I hear echos of Mets fans in our stadium singing Jar ra meee!! all night please no for him too. Also, hoping Chipper goes to Boston to DH is absurd. Glad to see DOB shut that up right away. That Pat Burrell made my stomach turn each time he came to the plate in the World Series.

Of course, I want Andruw to come home and I think he was better than all the guys we ran out there in 2010 except Heyward. Face it McLouth, Diaz, Ankiel, Melky or Hinske did not tear up center or left and plate appearances. Andruw was a very good player for Atlanta for many years and it seemed that people held Scott Boras against him. He slumped like all players in the game. The Braves in general with RISP sucked.

Sofa King Awesome

November 8th, 2010
9:33 pm

The requirements for the Braves to consider adding you to the team are…

1. Be old
2. Be cheap
3. Your career needs to be on the decline
4. It helps if youre a white guy.

Until they really change how they do things they wont be a championship team anytime soon. Making the playoffs doesnt mean youre a championship team.

brian

November 8th, 2010
9:35 pm

If I were Frank Wren I would prioritize my offseason as 1. Rasmus, 2. Ellsbury, and 3. Uggla. I would go for those 3 first knowing that it is unlikely that we will get Rasmus but possibly could get Ellsbury and Uggla.

The Braves trade pieces/depth for trading are minor league starting pitching, major league ready lefty relievers, and Omar Infante. Teheran is untouchable. I would assume that Delgado would only be moved for Rasmus. Vizcaino’s value is likely down after his injury. As has been said numerous times, the Braves next tier of pitching prospects are highly regarded as well. As far as lefty relievers, Venters will be all but untouchable, leaving Dunn, Marek, and EOF. Dunn should have the most value of those 3 with ML experience/success. As far as Infante, he needs to be an everyday player but with Prado and CHipper coming back that will be hard. His value will never be higher especially since he is cheap for another year.

Would a package of Delgado, Dunn, and Infante even get the Cardinals talking? Would Dunn and Infante get consideration from the Red Sox? What would it take for the Marlins to consider dealing Uggla – pitching prospect – starting or Marek, Christian Hernandez, Mycal Jones?

NORRIS

November 8th, 2010
9:36 pm

You got to be kidding me??????
Mather is nothing more than a diory hernandez. COME ON>>>>

Eric In Albany N.Y.

November 8th, 2010
9:36 pm

The requirements for the Giants to consider adding you to the team are…

1. Be old
2. Be cheap
3. Your career needs to be on the decline
4. It helps if youre (NOT) a white guy

They won the series…

nolie

November 8th, 2010
9:38 pm

I don’t wanna forget about Druw’s terrible batting average. while he does hit homers about anywhere to an extent, the rest of his game pretty much sux away from those two great hitting parks he has taken advantage of the last two years. There is way more to baseball than home runs

Pameeee

November 8th, 2010
9:47 pm

Werth has played very well in his career and deserves to go somewhere that he can get PAID. If its the Yankees or Red Sox then so be it.
In my opinion, players that earn their way should get the big congracts.

Realzing it is not a popular opinion on here I actually think Boras is a tremendous agent. He handles the best players and makes sure they get their money. In a business where there are millions of customers the workers should get their fair share of the profits. I’ve always wished that he could handle my contracts.

DAP

November 8th, 2010
9:48 pm

Excited about the fresh blog! Thanks DOB.

Someones earlier assertion that andruw jones would make as much sense as pat Burrell gave me pause. I’m not sure f I agree but it’s something to think about.

FW

November 8th, 2010
9:54 pm

You mean I signed the wrong Abreu?

nolie

November 8th, 2010
9:54 pm

Not sure how that would be possible DAP, . Other than homers Pat outhit Druw, and that was in a pitchers park as opposed to the hitters park Jones was in. Druw is a better defensive LFer than Pat I agree

Ted Turner

November 8th, 2010
9:58 pm

John Malone’s a skinflint—don’t expect any more money out of him.

Ted Turner

November 8th, 2010
10:00 pm

Don’t expect FW to grow brains during this offseason either.

Justafan

November 8th, 2010
10:01 pm

yes I would rather have Druw than Pat…..someone said sign free agent Bill Hall from Red Sox…agree he had 18 hrs in 126 ab.would be a great pick up for Fredi as he can play it all.

Tomas

November 8th, 2010
10:02 pm

DOB, Magglio wont be offered arb because it’ll be a very high price if he accepts.

Mrs. Wynd Expeller

November 8th, 2010
10:02 pm

Is this Oprah’s blog?

DaveFromDallas(NC)

November 8th, 2010
10:03 pm

Rick Ankiel struggles against any pitching. Did you see his batting average in 2010? You have Nate McLouth as an outfielder who is severely overpaid and hits below the Mendoza line. I like a deal for Dan Uggla in left, a deal for Jacoby Elsbury in center and anyone but Joe Mather for a fourth outfielder. Another option for left would be Maglio Ordonez. He’s definitely got more pop than anything Atlanta has had in left in some time. He’s due for a big season. Defensively?

DaveFromDallas(NC)

November 8th, 2010
10:06 pm

Brandon Beachy and even JJ would be expendable before Teheran in a deal.

McFann O O – 6

November 8th, 2010
10:06 pm

Hahaha! I had no idea there was a new Blog, and posted something on the old one like, half an hour ago. I come back and refresh the page and I’m thinking, “Wow, not much activity tonight…and there’s an hour and a half between my post and the one before it.”

DER!! READ, McFann! :roll: Thanks for the new Blog, Chief!

nolie

November 8th, 2010
10:07 pm

it’s pretty unlikely that McLouth will hit under 200 this year.

richbrave

November 8th, 2010
10:07 pm

Once ‘DRUW deflated, so did his career.

richbrave

November 8th, 2010
10:08 pm

TEHERAN’s going nowhere but ATLANTA or Dr. ANDREWS’ office. Book it.

DaveFromDallas(NC)

November 8th, 2010
10:09 pm

Nolie, I saw nothing to make me believe McLouth was putting it together at all. If he can’t pull a pitch, he’s toast. He was toast a lot fhis season.

richbrave

November 8th, 2010
10:10 pm

nolie

November 8th, 2010
10:07 pm
it’s pretty unlikely that McLouth will hit under 200 this year.

oh I dunno’, if he really tries…….maybe. Hey, this is a contract year. He’s in his prime. He’ll have a monster season.

DAP

November 8th, 2010
10:13 pm

Nolie, andruw had fewer ABs last year, but he actually had a better OPS than burrell. Basically the same OBP and a higher slg%. plus, you wouldn’t have to pull andruw for defense.

Again, I’m not picking andruw over Burrell,but it’s nit exactly a no brainer.

richbrave

November 8th, 2010
10:13 pm

nolie:

Hopefully trying to excel won’t “swell his head.”

nolie

November 8th, 2010
10:14 pm

I don’t know about that “monster season”, but I’d place a pretty good sized bet that he will break 200 ;)

richbrave

November 8th, 2010
10:20 pm

Well, I can say I never saw a CF’er with better instincts that ‘DRUW – never, and I’ve been eyeballing games in person and on t.v. for sixty years. That may not count as being an expert, but even a dolt like me knows a good thing when I see it. And I wish ANDRUW nothing but the bwest……..sincerely.

chief Knockahoma

November 8th, 2010
10:22 pm

I’m not sure why nobody is even mentioning Andrew Jones as a possibility for the outfield.

Stanley Crowe

November 8th, 2010
10:25 pm

I love Pat Burrell, but I don’t think the pop that’s left outweighs mediocre fielding. I like Jacoby Ellsbury, but I don’t think the good fielding makes up for lack of pop — although that might matter less if Freeman, Heyward, McCann, and (yes!) Chipper punch their weight. If Martin Prado is good for 20 homers, all these guys should be, and more. I would like to keep Diaz AND Hinske. My heart says, Keep Brooks Conrad too . . . but I need to think more about that. It sounds as if Rasmus is unlikely to move, so maybe BJ Upton if he’s available? It’s good to be thinking about these things with football dominating the news!

Pameeee

November 8th, 2010
10:25 pm

Maybe they know that the Braves front office is still smarting that he did not give them the hometown discount for a SECOND time.

chief Knockahoma

November 8th, 2010
10:25 pm

OK, some people are mentioning him now. It’s worth mentioning.

nolie

November 8th, 2010
10:29 pm

Basically the same OBP and a higher slg%. plus, you wouldn’t have to pull andruw for defense. DAP

in two VERY different types of parks DAP. one an extreme hitters park and the other a pitchers park. About 15% difference in runs allowed between the two last year. sorry but I don’t see how you cant legitimately just ignore that difference. Might not be a no-brainer, but it’s pretty close to one as i see it. .

Tn Brave

November 8th, 2010
10:29 pm

Wow, i learned something tonight. Kenny Lofton and Dion Sanders were failures and that’s why the Braves should not go after speed.

Hahahahahaha!

Pameeee

November 8th, 2010
10:30 pm

There’s nothing I’d like better than to see the Jones boys crossing the plate together like the old days. Makes me smile to remember.

Tomas

November 8th, 2010
10:31 pm

Bj Upton, come on lets make a campaign for the Braves to get this guy.

Bama Brave

November 8th, 2010
10:33 pm

no to andrew jones and pat burrell!

brian

November 8th, 2010
10:33 pm

Ellsbury would be great in CF and leadoff for the Braves. Uggla/Prado need to man LF/2B. Getting rid of KK and possibly trading Lowe (assuming we do not have to eat any salary) while signing Millwood as DOB mentioned above would work wonders for the Braves.The Lowe money would be needed to sign Uggla to a 4 year deal

nolie

November 8th, 2010
10:35 pm

I loved Druw too rich, and I wish him the best. I also agree that with the possible exception of a young Mays he is the best defensive CFer I ever saw including Paul Blair and Garry Maddox & Joe D.

nolie

November 8th, 2010
10:37 pm

Two thirds of the world’s surface is covered by water, the rest is covered by Garry Maddox

DAP

November 8th, 2010
10:40 pm

Nolie, andruw hit 1 more homer than Burrell even though pat the bat had 33% more plate appearances than andruw. I think that begins to make up for the park effect.

nolie

November 8th, 2010
10:45 pm

it ain’t just about homers DAP, that is not all that baseball is about.
That’s enough for me, we’ll just hafta disagree on their relative values. Neither of us is gonna change what we think constitutes a good hitter :)

Pameeee

November 8th, 2010
10:47 pm

nolie

November 8th, 2010
10:48 pm

Maddox was also know as The Secretary of Defense I caint be the only one here old enough to remember those accolades, can I????

mudcat

November 8th, 2010
10:58 pm

Burrell is a poor fielder and we have enough of those. Podsednik would fill a desperate need-speed. Millwood is interesting. Saw him pitch in August and he looked good-fastball is almost gone but he’s learned how to pitch. Pick up Kemp and these two guys and we’re back to the WS!

Ralph

November 8th, 2010
11:00 pm

Here’s what I expect from Wren, McOut in center and some other over the hill or under performer in left with high hopes he will become his old self again.

CajunStorm

November 8th, 2010
11:01 pm

Bare with me folks…

1. Carl Crawford – CF
2. Martin Prado – 2nd
3. Jason Heyward – RF
4. Jason Werth – LF
5. Brian McCann – C
6. Chipper Jones – 3rd
7. Freddie Freeman – 1st
8. Alex Gonzales – SS

I know, I know…all of you would say shut the heck up Cajun, not in the mood for fantasy land but as D.O.B. said, Liberty couls cough up an extra 20 Mill out of their spare change drawer. With no Wagner and Saito Braves could legitimaely get Crawford and Werth ($32 – $35 Mill between the two) and increase payroll from $84 Mill this year to about $110 Mill next year. BIG jump sure but huge jump in attendance, championship potential and MOST Importantly to a Big Time Corporation……INCREASED VALUE!! Just a hope and a dream.

Ralph

November 8th, 2010
11:01 pm

Dream on mudcat.

Russell Bell

November 8th, 2010
11:04 pm

CajunStorm –

Nap time is over.

Dadgum.....

November 8th, 2010
11:08 pm

DOB speaks the truth, whatever Wren does is sure to come straight out of leftfield(pun intended). While I am going to call Mather the Beaver in 2011, my new name for Wren is Chameleon. He can turn more things good that looked bad and more things bad that looked good. The Braves have played better (this year due to pitching) it is a stretch to say the Braves are a better team under Wren. Bottom line is the Braves would be absolutely nowhere were it not for Prado and Infante. Wren had little to nothing to do with that. Wren made a solid move acquiring Vazquez then a stupid move trading him all the while being bailed out by Hudson’s resurrection after TJ. Let’s not forget the LaRoche botch job thus having to employ numerous stop gaps in Glaus and Lee.

Regardless of who we get it will almost certainly come at the expense of Minor or JJ. I thought perhaps it would be JJ but the more I think about it other teams would probably see a player far away from arb more attractive than a Boras client coming off injury whose contract is up in 2012.

Another reason I think Minor is a goner is Beachy. Frankly Beachy is better. Call it a gut feeling but I see Beachy as the Braves #5 starter next year which leaves an attractive trade piece in Minor with nowhere to pitch. We will check this later but I am calling it now…..Minor will be dealt.

Rock On…..if Burrell ever becomes a Brave he would somehow have to be related to Wren the Chameleon. No other way Burrell ever plays for the Braves. Ever.

JonnyVenter'sLeftArm

November 8th, 2010
11:10 pm

If – and it’s probably a foregone conclusing – that the Rays will lose Crawford; why would they deal Upton? That’d be 2/3 of the starting OF.

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